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Would swapping its Special Defense and Speed be enough to save it? What other moves for coverage would it need to be relevant?

I don't get why all Eeveelutions don't learn Crunch. Eevee learns Bite, and most canids do upon level-up. I think with Earthquake, Crunch, Super Power and Flare Blitz, it could be usable in UU.
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>>24599962
guts flame charge is pretty good
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No. Its a shit eevolution. Its just there for shits and giggles and to make the stones useful for something other than vulpix or growlithe gen 1.

Just get over it.
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>>24599962
>let's make a physical fire type
Why is GF so retarded?
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>>24599981
For its time, it was retarded.
Now we have shit like Sacred Fire that can act like a surprise fuck over move.
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>>24599981
>what is M-Charizard X
>what is Darmanitan
>what is Blaziken
>what is Infernape
>what is Arcanine
>what is Emboar
>what is Entei
>what is Talonflame
>what is P-Groudon
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>>24599962
It would be more useful but Flare Blitz with 65 HP is a bad combination
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>>24599962

New ability: Nitro Flame. Fire-type version of Gale Wings.

Straight to OU. Done.
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Give all Eeveelutions a Mega.
Then Flareon will be less shit.
;)
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>>24600002
ohysical Fire mons were shit pre-split though is his point
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>>24599971
>No. Its a shit eevolution. Its just there for shits and giggles and to make the stones useful for something other than vulpix or growlithe gen 1.
>In Gen I

Nigga, in Gen I Flareon was the go-to Fire Type, even better than Moltres since it can learn something outside of Fly and Hyperbeam, and a much better attack stat.

Arcanine was lackluster and Ninetales was the one with no-moves since its Attack was laughable. Charizard only had Slash or using Swords Dance + Fly for it.
Toxic + Fire Spin was only pull decently by Rapidash thanks to Agility.

Dig, Body Slam, Fire Blast and Hyper Beam made Flareon useful back then.
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>>24600063
entei is mega flareon
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>>24600083
>Dig, Body Slam, Fire Blast and Hyper Beam made Flareon useful back then.

Flareon could not learn Dig in Gen 1.

Charizard pulled off the rest of those better with Swords Dance. Even Fire Blast, because he at least had the speed to make it happen.
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>>24600139
Oh, my bad. Arcanine learned dig too but it didn't hit hard like Flareon (110 and 80 vs 130 and 110) and it wasn't as fast as Charizard.

Also, now that I remember, Charizard only could learn Fly in Yellow (and Stadium).

I remember using Swords Dance, Fire Blast, Fly and Double-Edge Charizard in Yellow, shit was fun.
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