Despite being one of the three main starter types, Grass has always received the short end of the stick.
>having the worst properties in the type chart
>no playable Grass-type in Sm4sh
>no playable Grass-type in Pokken Tournament
>no Grass-type Pokémon is being dickrided by TPC while Charizard (Fire-type) and Greninja (Water-type) are
Why does everyone seem to have an irrational bias against this type? I just don't get it.
>>24577053
Kids hate it. Don't worry OP, Sceptile will always be the best starter in my heart.
>>24577060
Sceptile isn't just the best starter. It's the best Pokémon period in my heart.
>>24577060
>Kids hate it.
But why?
>>24577088
Because kids would rather choose a fire lizard over a walking onion or a ninja frog over a chipmunk in a hat.
Being a grassfag is suffering. I hope we finally get a 'cool' grass starter in gen 7.
>>24577053
>>no Grass-type Pokémon is being dickrided by TPC while Charizard (Fire-type) and Greninja (Water-type) are
I agree but they at least sort of made an effort to fix that with Sceptile in the anime.
>>24577053
If they had named it Plant-type from Day 1 like they should have instead of the retardedly specific "Grass"-type, maybe it would be cooler.
>>24577414
Call me once Sceptile gets into Smash and Pokken.I can dream, can't I?
>>24577053
gen 1 waters worst/ Fires best
gen 2 grass worst /Waters gest
Gen 3 grass worst /Fires best
Gen 4 Grass worst/ FIres best
gen 5 waters worst/Grass best
Gen 6 fires worst / Waters best
Atleast Venusaur sceptile Chestnaut and Serperior are usablewill sceptile stay the worst starter mega stay tuned in the next game of Pokemon Z
>>24577577
That's Game Freak bias for ya.
>>24577088
Because they don't look so overnatural as Fire type, and they impress more easily. Kids and teenagers search exactly that.
As grown-ups we don't search concepts that impress us, but concepts we can get comfortable with, but also fit in this fantasy concept. Something more relaxing.
That, at least is my theory.I would have preferred Chesnaught for Sm4sh too.
i honestly think its an age thing. young me was huge on flashy fire and electric types like arcanine and zapdos. as ive gotten older, ive veered more and more toward grass and bug types.
>>24577718
Holy shit! Me too! When I was younger and I played Pokémon Emerald for the first time, I chose Blaziken, but many years later, I chose Sceptile on another Emerald playthrough, and ever since its Mega was revealed and it gained Dragon-typing, it became my favorite Pokémon. You're right. It does have to do with age.
>>24577053
>caring about a grass starter being in tr4sh
Kill yourself my man.
>>24577754
>le tr4sh meme!
You first.
>>24577757
>liking a shitty party game with a poorly balanced roster
Just look at how Samus used to be before they buffed her.
>>24577053
There's a Grass-type in the best Smash game. Just play PM.
>>24577816
>best Smash game
>PM
you grassfags are truly desperate
>>24577816
>A fangame
It just isn't the same, though.
>>24577927
PM isn't official but Ivysaur was also in Brawl, remember.
>>24577965
>Brawl
>remember
lol
>>24577053
I've been a waterfag since day one with my starters until Kalos where both grass and fire are more well designed. I picked baranaught because bara and tank/warrior class but paied with blastoise.
>>24577977
>stopped with Kalos, the same time there was a water starter worth a damn
>being a barafag
disgusting
>>24577977
dubs aside, u wot m8
Always bet on blue
>>24578047
This nigga gets it
>>24577676
>>24577718
>>24577727
As for you guys, you are very classy, m'lads. Pic isfor you
>>24578047
Greninja's not awful but I'm kind of in the same boat as that anon, waterfag from the beginning but I felt the other two starters looked more appealing (their final forms at least, Chespin doesn't get good until it fully evolves). Still picked Greninja because if I could weather past Piplup I can definitely do Greninja, but I'll enjoy my second Kalos playthrough where I pick a non-water starter.
>>24578067
I used to bet on blue but narutoad has an awful design and is forcedly popular.
>>24578086
Piplup is a bro though...
So is Wotter... until Final Form
>>24577965
Yeah, but Ivysaur in that game was greatly hindered by the Pokémon Trainer's horrible mechanics, so you couldn't fully enjoy playing as her (the Ivysaur in Brawl was female).
>>24578103
I blame the Ashnime honestly, Piplup was way too annoying in there. I hear Osha was annoying too but I stopped watching when I caught wind of how bad Unova was going to be (and I don't trust the anime general for a second with their claims that Kalos is any better, if Ash wins something I might go back and watch it but not until then).
Empoleon's not bad though.
>>24578113
desu I can't even anime. I tried, I really did, around D/P. I'm just... I can't. The animation has gotten a lot better since Indigo League though
>>24578100
>forcedly
no
>>24578100
>forcedly popular
Perhaps the funniest meme of the past months. Greninja became one of the most popular instantly after its reveal. Even before Smash (which wasn't a GF marketing push, btw), he was elected best Gen VI pokemon pretty much everywhere.
Dorkly polls, IGN polls, Youtube asks, hell, even the Serebii polls all held it as victor. It's still hilarious how the seemingly one-sided starter poll in Serebii that was so unabashedly in Fennekin's favor suddenly went 60% Greninja as soon as it was revealed.
Greninja was literally the most natural case of popularity we've ever had in the Pokemon series.
>>24578131
>given an overpowered Hidden Ability while Chesnaught and Delphox get jack shit
>shoehorned into Sm4sh
>now given its own mary sue fusion form that's said to be as strong as a mega, if not stronger
>all of this has happened in only two years
>I-It's not forced! I swear, guys!
>>24578130
I didn't even watch that much DP, I think my breaking point was when they replaced the dub cast and it just wound down from there, I might put on Pokémon when I was getting ready for school, BW was just when I stopped entirely. Team Rocket seemed cool in the little of BW I did watch, at least.
>>24578142
>given an overpowered Hidden Ability while Chesnaught and Delphox get jack shit
i can't argue this, although i also can't understand GF's mindset regarding balances
>shoehorned into Sm4sh
that was just Sakurai's instincts based on seeing Greninja's concept art
>now given its own mary sue fusion form that's said to be as strong as a mega, if not stronger
i can't really say anything about this since there's currently no new game coming out
>>24577053
Grass was originally picked by noobs who wanted an easy win against the first 3 gyms in Red and Blue, and it just kinda stuck. Grass is for noobs, common knowledge really. Charmander was hard mode unless you went confusion or mankey strats, and Squirtle was neutral.
>>24578179
Are you serious? Grass is one of the most difficult types to use in-game due to its type-properties.
>>24577053
>Autists sperging the fuck out wanting Sceptile in Smash
>m-muh Starter type c-core! I-it's popular enough!
>while the Mega did help its shit design, it has no reason being in Smash
>All this "hype" for Sawyer/Shouta's Scep in XYZ op along with Gren & Zard
NO SIR I DON'T LIKE IT
>>24578142
>given an overpowered Hidden Ability
Yeah, i simply hate how much GF Keeps sucking the dicks of Pokemon like Talonflame, Klefki, Xerneas, Yveltal, Meowstic (M), Aegislash and the likes. When will they stop sucking them off?
Gamefreak is just absolutely shit at balancing. Chesnaught does an absolutely great job at what it's supposed to do, by the way. It's only Delphox who got shafted.
>shoehorned into Sm4sh
That wasn't GF's fault. The whole Smash dev team agreed that out of the possible Gen VI choices, Greninja was the best fit for the game. If their tastes were similar to yours, then you most likely would've seen your favorite in the game.
>now given its own mary sue fusion form that's said to be as strong as a mega, if not stronger
Yes. This was 2 years AFTER it became insanely popular. By this time it's more of a "Let's give the people what they want" instead of a "Let's push this shit and hope it sticks".
You're just pushing it as a Scapegoat in hopes that you'll appear as a martyr for the sheer fact that you chose differently.
>>24578193
Way to jump straight to conclusions. Not once did I mention Sceptile in the original post.
>>24577053
Grass truly is the "underdog" type in Pokémon.
>>24578179
Uh... Have you tried Gen II with Chikorita?
>>24578191
not for the firsr three kanto gyms
>>24578191
Are you retarded? The first 3 gyms were a breeze with Bulbasaur. The first 2 gyms were difficult with Charmander unless you got like a mankey or butterfree with confusion.
>>24578234
Have you tried reading comprehension?
>>24578260
>>24578239
>three gyms=the whole game!
No. Are YOU retarded?
>>24578268
Nobody fucking said anything about the whole game except for you. Did you even read the post you were replying to or could you not contain your autism for that long?
>>24578280
I read your original post, and you're just trying to justify Grass being a "noob type" by analyzing Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur's performance in the first three gyms of the game. It's a flawed argument. This is what it sounds like:
>Fire is the noob-type in Pokémon because I downloaded Torchic for Pokémon X and steam-rolled through the entire game with Mega Blaziken!
See? I can do it, too.
>>24577816
>Best smash game
>PM
>mfw PMfags are still this delusional
>>24578303
You're clearly an underagefag. I'm talking about how things were in the 90's, and why grass type has the "noob" reputation. It started because grass was the type people picked to easily run through the first half of Red and Blue, by which point you have other mons to deal with the latter half.
Try to be a less obvious hoennbaby.
>>24578324
It's the second best in gameplay and the best in terms of stages and character balancing (as in every character is fun and viable at low-to-mid levels).
They just need a bit more quality control on the costumes, no shit like ninja Squirtle that isn't even based on anything in the series.
>>24578326
>Ad-hominem arguments
Sweet.
>>24578198
>DKC has 111 levels
Ha, were they counting the secret rooms as separate levels or what?
>>24577088
IDK about kids today, but May's Grovyle back in gen 3 man.
>>24577676
>>24577718
>>24577727
These are ironic, right? You're trying to recall obvious fedora memes to get a laugh out of people, right? Because i can't believe we'd see the time when people would unironically say
>I only like mature Pokemon for mature, old and experienced people like myself.
>>24577577
>delphox is the first fire starter in being the worst of the bunch
confirmed for worst fire-type starter
>>24577053
I love bulbasaur and torterra.
>>24578532
Nope. I genuinely like Grass-type Pokémon the most.
I used to like grass best but since gen 5, I've moved on
>>24583156
What type do you like the best, now?
>>24578452
>May's Grovyle
>>24583161
Fighting--always had my top fave of all time but speaking of starters, grass used to take top spot. Venusaur and Torterra are still top bros for me though
>>24578280
>hurrdurr bulbasaur makes ingame easy
>xD muh three gyms
>omg ingame obviously doesnt mean the whole ingame
GTFO summerfag
>>24583857
The route right before Mauville Town. If you chose Mudkip, that was the most difficult battle to win in the entire game.
I will always hate Sceptile for his shitty-ass level up learnset.
>grass type with higher SpAtt than Att
>almost all of his level-up moves are random physical attacks
At least ORAS had the decency to give him Mega Drain
>>24583106
There's nothing wrong with that. The point is that you were retarded enough to argue that literally only mature and grown people like Grass types. That's ironically one of the most childish, immature and pretty much fedora things you could say.
Love me some Torterra and Chesnaught. Shame GF hates Grass as much as Bug and Psychic.
I never thought it was possible for one Pokemon to render several types invalid.
>>24578303
The thing is that Misty and Brock could both be fucking hard as shit depending on your starter, due to how few other options there were. The best non-starter mons against Brock were Pokemon you'd never think to bother grinding against him without a guide and your options against Misty were also fairly limited (all four of the SE mons you could get against her had trouble tanking hits and had to be grossly overleveled to have evolved by then). Ivysaur just walks over both of those roadblocks with no trouble.
It mostly stops mattering after that, since Dugtrio beats the shit out of Surge (and the NPCs specifically tell you this) and you've got loads of options for every gym leader after that.
>>24577577
To be fair, Gen IV all starters were pretty good. Torterra had a fairly unique typing as did Empoleon.Without the mega and speedboost, Blaziken is an ugly fire chicken shitmon.
>>24584520
Fuck you man, Blaziken is cool.
