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New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

News/Legal List/Set scans/etc
>http://pokebeach.com/

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges
>unlock all locked cards in the three theme decks you're given at the start
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>enter theme tournaments with tickets and earn tradeable packs and tournament chests (XY Basic Blue strongly recommended)
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>use the Trade section to trade the packs and chests for the shit you need
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ for a list of viable decks or ask here

Your physical cards probably aren't worth shit, but check sites like Trollandtoad, eBay and TCGplayer for the shinier ones to see if you can make a decent 5-10 bucks off them before you ask in the thread. We don't have the prices memorized for every single card.

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/

Pack codes are worth about 15-30 cents while other codes are worth around a dollar or two.

Remember that if you're doing a TCGO code dump, post them as images and block off the QR codes. This prevents scumbags from scooping up the entire lot with client's QR reader or, in the case of typed codes, copypasting all of them onto the redemption page for themselves. DO NOT put text codes in a pastebin and remove the last character from them just because it's easier for you if you're dumping codes, scumbags have access to scripts that can easily find the missing letter/number.

ToTT: What card do you want to see reprinted for standard?
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What's the best deck for the second part of The Haunted?
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>>24575392
nightmarch is fast and easy

TotT:
I'm happy with Judge already
a new MewEX would be cool though
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>ToTT: What card do you want to see reprinted for standard?
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First come first serve:
U5W-5Y86-3RB-TQR
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>>24575466
Thanks senpai
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>>24575464
>this with all the BW legend outragers
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>go in to TCGO leaderboards
>see this

>>24575375
>ToTT: What card do you want to see reprinted for standard?

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>>24575375
ToTT: Either Garbodor, Max Potion, Keldeo, N, or Darkrai.
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>>24574740
I'm by no means an expert on this but:

Just take a look on top cut trading link from the OP
You can probably get the cards for 1-3 packs less of what it's listed there

Also they value the chests at 0.5 packs but you can get like 8 common cards for one
Or something like 3 or 4 uncommon

Just look at their prizes to get a rough idea on the value of the card and post a public trade that seems fair and you'll likely get it accepted

Also you could post here what cards you're looking for and maybe someone more knowledgeable will tell you how to distribute the trades fairly
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>>24575494
we are getting a max potion reprint
rejoice M Gardevoir fags

>>24575481
tfw I was 2nd and stopped playing because I couldn't see myself in top2 anymore, once its up again I'm probably somewhere in the top50
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>>24575480
The outragers are irrelevant. You'll get what, one attack for 120? Who cares. The dragon-type Reshiram is the real deal. Start with it, attach 2 energy T1, attach 2 more T2 then Swoop it for a 4 energy attacker and have it attacking on T2.
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>TOTT

Either Pokemon Communications, Pluspower/Defender, or Sableye DEX.

But then again...

>Pluspower+Muscle Band+Fighting Stadium+Strong Energy+Machamp FFI for Fighting decks.

I think I'll stick to wanting Pokemon Communications or Sableye DEX...

>>24575547

Don't forget that we're getting a Keldeo-EX replacement in the form of a splashable Zoroark in BREAKthrough.
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Has anyone managed (or even tried) to change the PTCGO graphics?
I looked at the game contents and at the first glance everything is hidden in unity .assets.
The only thing exposed is the startup animation video, which I deleted at once.
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Nobody cares, but I just started playing pokemon and cracked my first 4 packs last night.
Shit pulls irl, but digitally I just now pulled my first EX and I got excited.
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>Breakthrough not even out
>already 90% of the cards are worthless
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>>24575935
Awesome! I love that card (specificially for Courtney).
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How viable is Wobbats with Miltank going to be in XY-BRK? Seems like the best deck I can afford...
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>>24575935
Too bad it's shit
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>>24576000
Don't buy boxes of this set. Already you will need to pull FA/SR Mewtwos to break even when the ratios seem to be 2 FAs and either 3 EXs and 2 breaks or 2 EXs and 3 breaks.
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>>24576000
B-But my Mewtwo FA with Meloetta...
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>See plasma deoxys tin at target
>Buy it
>It has flashfire and legendary treasures packs

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>24576110
But...that's amazing. You get a beautiful Deoxys EX AND a Booster Pack from one of the best expansions from the BW era.
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>>24576130
I did pull a full art Lysandre and a Mew EX, so obviously whoever did it wasn't very good at scaling.
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new guy here grinding the trainer challenges.
Can someone tell me why 100 from Articuno and two 50s from my Sealeo are doing 0 damage on this goddamn bird?
I don't fucking understand how I'm supposed to win if I can't damage it.
I've been wrecking shit undefeated on the hardest difficulty until this shit.
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>>24576321
>scaling
you can scale the tins too? jesus
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>>24576376
Have you tried reading it?
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>>24576378
That was the point of the story. Someone must have bought the tin, taken out the plasma packs and put in less valuable ones then returned it. The fact that it was sealed and had the "TCG ONLINE BLAH BLAH" sticker on it is astonishing, though. I could have sworn it was legit.
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>>24576379
I legit should kill myself after that.
I read everything BUT the attack effect.
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>>24576387
That's not what happens. They just released shitty tins with shitty packs since they had too much stock.
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>>24576417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxyfEqFQLAA

I checked out an opening after we got home. Can tins have different packs on an individual basis?
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>>24576429
They rereleased Deoxys, Thundurus and some others with newer packs.
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>>24576387

It is, you dingbat. You just bought rerelease tin.
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So are Dark Patch, etc. legal now that they've technically been reprinted in the battle arena box? Or is it just worthless?
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>>24576651
>doesn't know what a reprint is
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New guy again.
Am I retarded or what?
I'm still going through the trainer challenges and after getting my 6th prize card the game is stuck like this with no victory. I can still go fiddle with all the buttons, but I'm basically stuck.
Is there any way I can fix this without having to do the round over again?
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>>24576651

Just because it is reprinted in a deck after the rotation doesn't make it Standard legal since it still carried the original set's logo + collection number (DEX 93/108)
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>>24576657
Man, I just assumed if stuff like skyla can get reprinted and be legal that this might stand a chance. I'm new, sorry.
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>>24576662
It's bugged. You can try closing the client by Xing the corner, and then loading it up again and it will load you back in the game where you left off
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>>24575375
>>ToTT: What card do you want to see reprinted for standard?

>>24576651
But for a different type. Protein: attach a fighting energy from the discard to a benched Fighting poke.
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>>24575375

>ToTT: What card do you want to see reprinted for standard?

Sigilyph.
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>>24576774
Just use vivillon :^)
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ToTT: What card do you want to see reprinted for standard?

N, Colress, Master Ball, and Computer Search.

Like seriously, why was Computer search even an ACE SPEC? Was it just because it is literally an ultra ball for anything?
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I like Hearthstone but I dont enjoy this game much (the client too slow for me? I don't know, playing feels clunky) but I love the ilustrations. Where could I browse all of them? I wish I had the money to buy packs.
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>>24576843
>Computer search went in literally everything and it was crazy even if you could only have one

Can you imagine 4? Jesus.
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>>24576857
Do you have animations on?

These fuckers feel so slow(discarding 5+ cards, coin flips, etc), everything is faster if you just disable them
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>Bought the last Zoroark blister at my nearest GameStop.

I'll post my pulls when I get home.
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tott: dark patch could cause a large ripple across the standard meta without completely breaking it. a small boost to dark decks could see fairy & fighting become more viable.
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>>24576857
go into your collection and tick the 'show not owned' box. That'll cover the last few expansions worth.
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>>24576857
>I love the illustrations
lol
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>>24575375
>ToTT: What card do you want to see reprinted for standard?

An equivalent of Dragon Call Gabite, which allows you to find and stream dragons to your hand. Having one as a Basic might be too spammable, though, unless there was an exclusion about the same specie you could just chain them up and get them all out the next turn, so maybe it's best kept as a Stage 1 like a Dragalge or Altaria.

Or even just something else to give dragons a boost at least. Fight Song is sorta okay but lessening energy costs would be better since they deal relatively mediocre damage for the required energy needed.
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>Finish a night march deck(sort of)
>Get excited to try it out
>Actually deck out after a few turns

Well this is embarrassing
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>>24577478
Oh come on anon, you're supposed to dunk them. Here's mine. Replace fan club with something else.
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>>24577540
I just got kinda excited and started drawing a lot of cards without paying attention to my deck, i could've probably won without using that last Sycamore
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>>24577575
For the sake of things, add Shaunas.

Hard Charms are absolutely useless when your Pokemon have either 30, 60, or 90 HP and the most popular deck in standard right now hits for 110.
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god damn is it me or does break through kind of suck? Even as a casual player who only oppened 3 packs none of the cards I got were even cool, interesting or useful.

Anyone else?
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>>24577582
Will do
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>>24577575

An interesting idea I was thinking about in terms of vespiquen deck is rayquaza ex. Fire off powerful attacks and mill cards to the grave.

Though that's most likely not super good. For things that I think are honest to god great for this deck is level ball because you can search everything here.
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>Play expanded
>Put out Joltik
>Opponent plays hypnotoxic laser and virbank
>Lose

I'm so glad that shit is gone.
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>>24577726
Just wait for the next set's Team Flare Gear: HypnoBurn Laser and Cinnabar Island stadium.
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>>24577732

>Implying they wouldn't just bring back Full Flame (4 damage counters instead of 2 and evolving won't remove the condition) and make a new Heatran EX (a throw back to the Lv.X) that treats all Burn flip as Tails
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Went to my stores pre-release and pulled 164 mewtwo ex and 's Giovanni scheme and floreges break
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>>24577612
Yeah, not much catching my eye as just a casual builder. Then again I've felt that sets have had less interesting stuff at cheaper prices over time.
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>http://www.trollandtoad.com/Pokemon/9852.html?orderBy=Price%3A+Highest+First&filterKeywords=&sois=Yes&minPrice=&maxPrice=&raritySelect=Select+Rarity&typeSelect=Select+Card+Type&minHitPoints=&maxHitPoints=&pageLimiter=25&showImage=Yes&PageNum=
>Those preorder prices

I'm actually pretty shocked with how much Bridgette's going for.
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>>24577808

sexy art boost
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>>24577808

And then the price will eventually drop back to the "normal" range of $10 or so anyway since she is still not Skyla
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>>24577808
>I have already pulled the two cheapest full arts
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>>24577732
>Hypnoburn Laser

Fuck that but now is a good opportunity to make Burn not shit
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>>24577815
>>24577818

Both fair points.

>>24577819

And this is what I've pulled so far...

>M Mewtwo-EX 159: $22.99
>M Mewtwo-EX 63: $19.99
>Houndoom-EX FA: $10.99
>Mewtwo-EX 62: $8.99

And I have 3 more packs to open.
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>>24577868
This set really is shit. I took a random box opening vid off youtube and calculated his earnings. He ended up with SR Red Mewtwo, FA Giovanni, 3 Breaks, and Glalie/Houndoom/MMewtwo Y, which add up to around 85 dollars, just barely scraping a profit combined with bulk commons and rares, and that's day 1 with the most valuable card in the set, a secret rare.
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Now...

Let's get funky.
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>>24577910

>Pokemon cards
>Making money

I don't know about you, but it has never been that easy to make money since PTCGO has become a thing and chase cards (for what it is) became easier to pull
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>>24577931
Lots of shops make money getting boxes and selling the singles they pull. It's a business model. This set is shit for that, like XY is.
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1/3

It's shit, but at least there's a Heavy Ball.

>>24577910

That depends on where you buy your boxes, I can easily buy mine for 80 bucks a pop.
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>>24577931
>Chase cards became easier to pull

Man, I fucking love this TCG. It's gotta be the kindest on your wallet out of any of them. Not that that's saying much, but at least they're not pulling Nekroz of Brionac level shit.
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>>24577951
>plump body

just how I like 'em
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>>24577951
what the FUCK is up with the move "Knock Away" that's like the 4th I've seen.
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>>24577951

2/3

More shit, but there's Dodrio...
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>>24577956

>It's gotta be the kindest on your wallet out of any of them

I'd partially disagree since the quality of the pulls is below average compared to the price of the boxes. Mind you luck and how much you paid for it play a part too

>Nekroz of Brionac

Isn't the pull rate for that around "1 in every 4~5 boxes"?
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>>24577966

And 3/3.

...Well, that's a first.
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>>24577973
Yep. You needed 3, and it was advertised to have the same pull ratio as any regular rare.
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>>24577974
Congrats m8
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>>24577974

M888888 nice.
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So is there much point in saving up tournament tickets early on? Or may as well just use them as soon as I get them?

Obviously pretty new, just spamming XY Blue in theme tournaments at the moment.
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>>24577973
I mean, if you're smart and don't buy boxes, he's right. It's a lot cheaper. Kozmo Farmgirl, the most popular card right now, is 90 dollars a pop and it's not even good in any deck but its own. Shaymin-EX is fantastic in every deck, a staple of the highest caliber, but it's only 35~ dollars.
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>>24577951
>>24577966
>>24577974
Moar., my body needs MOAR.
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>>24577999
That's the best you can do. It's tier 1 in theme tournaments. Have you noticed yourself winning all the time?
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>>24577974
holy shit
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>>24577974

Shame both are useless. Still, you can sell em while they're worth something.
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>>24577999
You're better off saving them for Break's release, since the packs will be more valuable.
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>>24578005

currently 2/2 in theme tournaments just using tokens to join.
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>>24577992
>>24577994

Thanks, one of things I should mention is that the pack felt really heavy in the hand.

So keep that in mind when buying packs...

>>24578001

Sorry, that's all I've got until next weekend.

>>24578010

I know. I've gotten similar pulls on the TCGO (the most notable being a Computer Search and a FA Landorus-EX n the same pack), but this is the first time I've seen it IRL.

I guess it just proves that anything is possible.

>>24578016

I'll agree with you on M Glalie-EX and I'll try to sell it ASAP, but I might hold onto Noivern BREAK. I've seen some Noivern FFI decks do well at some leagues recently.
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>>24578058
Weigh a break compared to a reverse holo.

My FA and holo packs both weighed 20.00.
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>>24578069

A BREAK card weighs 1.94 grams compared to a regualr RH's weight of 1.88 grams.

So yeah, BREAKs are a bit heavier than RHs.
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How much can I sell this code card for? I can't find it on ebay. I already had one before, I got the cool fire energies and stuff.
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>>24578102
I'll take it from you no worries
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>>24578102
>League promo code cards

They usually go for a dollar or two, but I've seen the more desired ones going for 4-5 bucks a code.
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>Discard this card at the end of the turn you attached it

Fucking why? Why deprive a series you deliberately made bad of their only saving grace by placing debilitating restrictions on it?
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>>24578176

Because it's a partial reprint of Aqua Energy, which had the same "discard at the end of your turn" rule.
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>>24578176
Because Double Crisis it's only a collection/meme set.
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You know, there really should be a universal spirit link card.
They are really clogging up every set.
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>>24578208
They're printed for the poor people that can't buy more than 3 Booster Packs per month and want at least one card with his/her favourite mega printed in.
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I have a around 850 coins from ptcgo after winning all the rounds from the 3 tiers of trainers challenges.

I'm debating on buying the Destruction Rush Theme deck for 500 coins from the shop so I can use its dark pokemon to knock out 40 pokemon on my opponent's side so I can win The Haunted deck from Active Challenges.

Two questions:
-Can I use that deck in the Trainer Challenges or can I only use the basic free decks?
-Do the Trainer Challenges count towards the Active Challenges for unlocking that deck?
-Should I be doing something better with my coins instead?

Thanks all.
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>>24578329
The prize isn't a deck, just a box that will sit in the corner of the screen in the next update.
For the questions:
- Yes, you'd get an untradable XY pack after 12 wins
- No, it's versus only
- Dark hammer is a better dark theme deck, but the breakthrough promo bundle may be worth saving up for instead
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>>24578355

>breakthrough promo bundle

The what? What will be in this?
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>>24578361
It will be either 200 coins for 1 pack and a promo or 600 coins for 3 packs and a promo. The offer should last two weeks, so there is time to grind if you want to get 4 of something.
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>>24578355
Ah, it's a deckbox, gotcha.
I should've figured that's be too easy.

What else are the coins spent on?
It's seems like the options are preconstructed decks that will get rekt in versus, shitty pokeavatar clothes, a half pack of untradeable cards, or gay sleeves/boxes.
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>>24578372

Oh cool, thanks. Do we know what the promo will be?
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>>24578208
That makes it too easy to run multiple Mega pokemon though.
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>>24578176
The mini-set is practically a remake of an older one but without actually updating it to today's standards entirely.
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>>24578381
That's why you play ticket theme tourneys with theme decks in order to get tradable pack/chests. Save coins for promo card bundles or a theme deck once the basic xy decks get nerfed on the 4th.
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>>24578372
>actually printing new anceint trait cards
neat
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>>24578414
They aren't new. They were made around the same time as Ancient Origins and just released in English now.
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Going to assume it's very worth it to 4 star all of the trainers in Trainer Challenge?

But is it worth it to clear every battle with the same deck? As in all 12 with a XY Blue for example.
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>>24578372

It'll probably be the three-pack bundle, it was the same deal when Ancient Origins was released.
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>>24578440
You don't get anything doing so
It's not worth it
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>>24578440
currently debating this myself as I just beat all three tiers of them. The time I'd have to grind for the 45 packs that I can't even trade just isn't worth it to me.

I'm just not sure where I'm supposed to go from here now that all the trainers are beat since I still have the basic-ass decks with one copied basic deck that I edited a bit.
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>>24578534

I got the whole trainer challenge to 4 stars in less than two days. It goes incredibly quickly as long as you use decks that hit their weaknesses and always play on hard. Remember that the biggest impact on score is the total damage you do.
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>>24578537
I went ahead and unlocked the cards from the yellow, red, and green decks but my fave has been the basic blue.
I pluck all the water energies from my deck via Articuno, then wreck shit while buffing my Benched guys if bird dies.
But still, all those packs for free are cool, but isn't there something more productive I could be putting my time to that isn't packs I am not even able to trade?
>using three negatives in a sentence
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>>24578534
I used the basic green deck for the majority of the matches, i could consistently get 9k points in a match so getting 4 stars only took 3-4 matches
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>>24578550

>basic blue babby

At least use basic green, which requires at least a modicum of thought.
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This is so sick! Just think of the possibilities?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPwdvmlzKpM
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>>24578602
Coming from Force of Will and a bit of Hearthstone, I fucking hate getting mana screwed.
So I get Articuno on the field and take enough of it from my deck so I don't have to deal with it.
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Just got this from a pack.

Anything it would come in handy for?
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>>24578691

being a qt
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>>24578691
You could make a M-Gardevoir deck, but most Fairy decks use different attackers instead and are more centralized around Aromatisse.
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Are there any solid decks in standard that can still function without Shaymins?
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>>24578843

Certain Fighting decks can, Medicham comes to mind.
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>>24578176
What's funny is that Double Crisis was ridiculously close to being meta. It feels like they tried too hard to balance the cards that they ended up overbalanced it all.

Just go through the cards and make some very minor changes. Make Claydol like Aromatisse for Magma. Have Camerupt attach to any Magma Pokemon. Have the doubles not discard when your turn ends. Have the Balls search any Team pokemon, not just basic. Have Diffuser/Pointer actually do something. Increase the damage, especially on Aggron and Walrein. I mean, Kyogre and Groudon as they are would be usable if the entire archtype around them wasn't shit, and cards like Sharpedo and Muk already function fine as support Pokemon.
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>>24578691
This thread inspired me to start playing and I got one from the tutorial booster pack.
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>>24578843
yes. all of them.
use regular supporters. shit will function just fine. it would just be better if you had some shaymin of course

a deck that work better without shaymin might be any wobbuffet deck? wobb/gengar-EX/subs is a potent combination.

try get one sooner over later. if you won just five four-ticket tournaments, that would be around enough packs to trade.
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>>24576000
>less interesting Stage 1 such as (...) Malamar
You mean this Malamar? Decks build around it can be actually horribly annoying.
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>ladder is literally nothing but yveltal+malamar

>i have a fire daily

After I'm done with this, I'll literally make the biggest anti-Dark deck and try to bully these kids quitting this game altogether.
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Well, it's something.

>>24579440

You can complete the fire daily in Trainer Challenge?
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>>24579476
You can't complete any dailies in the Trainer Challenge.
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>>24579440
>yveltal+malamar
Yveltal/Malamar is pretty shit desu senpai. Malamar/Manetric-EX/Regice is where it's at
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>>24579485

I could of sworn I just finished my fire daily, and got level 1, in Trainer. I couldn't use the deck anywhere else.

XY Fire Theme
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>>24579485
>>24579492

I lied, was HS Basic Red. Still in Trainer Challenge though.
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>>24579491
The whole Fire type are even shittier.
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So, versus..... Obviously worth it, and what I should be doing.

But is there some sort of ranking system? Does the game take into account that I've won X matches in X time and put me against similar people? Or can I just verse ANYONE who happens to queue? Whether they've won 200 or lose 2000?
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>>24579519
There's some kind of ranking system based on wins and losses
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>>24579536
>>24579519

There most likely isn't. It just queues you up to similar ladder scores.
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>>24579536
>>24579551


So it is going to get harder though? Currently... I think around 8-2. Took down someone who had the "Advantage" as well.
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>>24579557
Advantage just means they were "higher" on the ladder ie. had 1 more total win than you. It won't get any harder, because people will just grind the ladder regardless their decks.
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I got some weird stadium card in the new pack called "parallel city"

It seems broken as shit but how good is it really?
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>>24579557
It does get harder to an extent but if you lose a couple of matches in a row you will get thrown back to fight scrubs
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>>24579823
the bench side is always best for your opponent, and since you get the -20 damage on F/L/W, just don't carry them.
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>>24579839

But having your bench limited to 3 really screws your opponent doesn't. Especially with shaymin in every deck I imagine they couldn't really afford to play it.
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>>24579867
flip the stadium card and it will work.
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>>24579881

I'm confused. Can your opponent flip the card? Can you play it if your opponent has more than 3 on his bench already.

This card just seems like a really good stop to shaymin was my point but its really weird and confusing.
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>>24579828
That is what happens statistically by default. You will eventually queue into a bad match up or start winning again after a losing streak. The game doesn't force any match ups. You cannot "derank" in PTCGO.
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>>24579900
> Can you play it if your opponent has more than 3 on his bench already.
did you read the card
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>>24579923

I did but its not in front of me right now.

well nevermind I guess. Shit really is OP.
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>>24579959
But you have internet access, anon
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Starting to get packs and chests(should I keep chests to trade?) together. Which means I'll hopefully be able to start trading soon. Seems like Shaymin EX would be a decent pick up no matter what deck I decide to build.

Worth picking Shaymin EX up first and going from there? Or pick it up last?
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>>24579476
>>24579485
>>24579492
Dailies can be done in trainer challenge right when you start the game. After a certain point, they become versus+tourney only
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got to the 8 chests at 820 on the new ladder. Got a decent pull from a chest for once.

where we all at anons?
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>>24580099
Unless you got a bazillion of packs i'd suggest you go for shaymin last
Each one is worth like 15 packs at minimum so getting 2-3 is going to burn through your packs
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>>24580099
definitely worth it. You will have to get some sooner or later anyway.

Unless you have some other specific deck in mind already? For the same price as one Shaymin you could get four of most EXs which would be a good core to any deck that takes your fancy.

Might be worth building a Standard Tournament winning deck first, then using those spoils to get the Shaymins. But a Shaymin or three would be extremely splashable into many decks. Your call.
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>>24580255
As of right now, I have ABSOLUTELY nothing in mind. Started playing the TCG 4 days ago. At the moment, I'm just using the Iron Tide deck I bought, and having some fun with it. Switching to XY Blue for Theme Tournaments.

By standard tournament winning deck, do you mean something like what the guys in Master Division at Official TCG Tournaments are playing, or something else?
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>>24577829
All non-paralyze, non-poison status changes are shit.
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What pack codes should I buy a good handful of if I want to bulk out my tiny collection with staples? I know Roaring Skies has the Shaymin EX but those packs are 30 cents a pop (compared to other packs at 15-25 cents each) and I'll end up just trading packs for the Shaymins I need anyways so unless there's plenty of other staples, I was going to go for cheaper packs. Any suggestions?
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>>24580284
Well, what's a few of your favourite Pokémon? Fave type? Did you pull any EXs / ancient traits / ability cards yet that you can build from?
It's not like the VCG meta where the top six decks are identical.
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>>24580284
whoop, missed the question in there. By Standard I just meant the Standard format.

There is theme format - which is just the pre-built decks. There is standard - which is every card from XY-on - so the last eight(?) or so expansions. And then there is Expanded - which is everything from BW-on. That can wait a few weeks, but get out of theme as soon as you can manage. It's a completely different game when you build from scratch. The theme decks are stupid.

Here: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/metagame-deck-discussion.250/ are the decks that are generally agreed to be top of the meta. But they are all beatable, don't even worry about those yet. Put something together that you like and take it for a spin on the Versus ladder. Tweak it till it's consistent then take it to the tournaments to win more packs so you can upgrade once you know what you want.

Look for the ones tagged 'Standard Format' for now. 'Expanded Format' can wait.

Here: http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/deck-garage.154/ is a wider selection of non-meta and less boring decks. Just things people are trying out. But don't just copy one. Find a good idea and work out how to make it better.
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>>24577974

>That FA M Glalie.
>Heavy Ball.

Grats.

I'm jelly as all fuck right now.

I'll show off my second BREAK pre release pulls again anyway. :-)
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>>24578691

Lol that's in my in my binder and I'm not even a Gardevoirfag.
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>>24580633
>>24580633
>>24580633
Shameless bump for an answer
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>>24578550
Basic Blue is overpowered as all hell. In Theme Deck format, it completely obsoletes every single other available deck. The only things it has trouble with are Zapdos and Metagross, and only when they set up faster.
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>>24581329
Yep. They need to do something about it.
When I'm grinding with it, I have people concede by turn 5 because it's fucking obnoxious.
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>>24581375

Basic Blue, Green, and Red are getting nerfed on wednesday.
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>>24581391
How? What will happen to them?
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>>24581426

Probably not enough. Rev up those Dark Hammers anyway.
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Approximately how much USD is a players coin worth? I'm debating on this and that with all those theme decks that cost 500 coins.
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Hey guys,

Just watched a few Breakthrough Booster Box openings on YouTube and I am a bit surprised at the inconsistent pull rates. Most people seemed to get 7 ultra rares when counting Break cards. However, this guy managed to get 9 total with 4 BREAK cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzEaW_fT6BI

Has anyone else opened a box? If so, what were your rates compared to these?
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Have any of you niggas tried Mega Manectric/Pyroar? Turbo Volt into Pyroar for continuous Lysandre effect? Seems good enough in theory.
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>>24581611

I've never heard of a Player's coin before... Got a reference?

>>24581616

We'll have to wait until the set's officially released on Wednesday. Most of the pulls we've seen are from prereleases,
single boxes/packs, and 3 pack blisters.
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>Have a stack of 64 PTCGO codes
>have tried to recover account
>no help
>Could give to /vp/ or to a friend who still plays
Hmm.
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>Open old thundurus-ex tin
>Open first pack
>See shiny border, so excited
>It's an ace spec
>It's
>It's
>pic related

Surely there can't be a god this cruel.
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>>24581705
Please. <3 ...Well, don't do it all at once. There are greedy fucks who would take them all at once.
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>>24581706
I have a trade locked computer search.
I was always worried that I would get another.
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>>24581743
>TFW

I too know the pain of the trade lock.
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>>24581706
>>24581781
What's her name /vp/?
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>>24581781
The real question is why you havent traded for 3 more yet.
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He just mad Joltik OHKO'd his whale
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When it comes to money for real cards, where do you guys draw the line to pay?
For example I'm trying to build a probably shit deck for funsies and the most expensive card is Team Aqua's Kyogre valued at $6.79 on troll and toad.
I can get one of the ones I need for $5 shipped but I think I can get one or multiple ones for a better deal.
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>>24582036

>Joltik OHKO'd a Wailord EX

That would mean you'll have all 11 other Night March Pokemons in the discard pile (so none were Prized), a Silver Bangle on said Joltik, AND the Wailord EX has no Hard Charm

Son, I'm proud
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>>24582060
You could get dollar shipping if you buy 10 dollars worth of cards. Just stock up on staples/trade bait EXs for the kiddies. Alternatively, go on ebay, they have better prices for expensive cards.
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>>24582061
I meant Kyogre

Sorry i gave you fake expectations senpai
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>>24582104

If it was Primal Kyogre EX it would've been acceptable anyway since that would still require all 11 Night Marchers, but a regular Kyogre EX is just "eh"
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>>24582060
>most expensive card is Team Aqua's Kyogre valued at $6.79
Good thing your not making a competitive deck.
The most I paid for a card was $35 bucks.

When I got the card, it was bent out of shape, and wasn't even the right card.
Quickly got my money back from ebay.
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Did you guys go as your favorite card?
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>>24582122
:(
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>>24581705
Cover the scan code, and the last letter.
It's the only fair way to do it.
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>>24582140
I might as well go ahead and say:
I'm not bothering building an irl competitive deck at this point and time since there's no interest of others seriously playing with me. I will be making a competitive deck where it will get play- ptcgo.

I have a convention coming up and I'll be cosplaying as a Team Aqua Grunt so I figured why not have a fun and probably shitty standard deck with heavy Team Aqua influence to carry on my person for the weekend if I find others who want to thrown down some cards.
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>>24582140

That reeks of "trying to get the ROS Shaymin EX but you got the DEX Shaymin EX instead"
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>>24581705
Send some to me senpai
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>>24582198
Close, but I wasn't buying a card for a competitive deck, just saw a card I like at a low price.

It was the Plasma Storm SR Charizard, since that card is like $70 bucks and up on eBay.
Guy sent me the Legendary Treasures Charizard, wrap in tin foil.

Should have known better since he was using a stock art.
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>>24582175
Yes, I went as this card
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>>24582268
Post pics
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Time to weigh some packs.
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>>24582392

>Actually weighing packs in Wal-Mart with such blatant fashion

I'm not sure if I should be impressed at your guts or not
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>>24582429

That's a Target, dingbat.
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>>24582435

My point still sort of stands on how obvious it is

>Target

It is a pity that they decided to pack up shop in Canada in less than two years since they cannot into foreign markets
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>>24582392
Damn, you already beat me to it
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>>24582429
We weighed 100+ packs in less than 2 mins. So not that bad.
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>>24581705
can i have some?? lol
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>>24582392
>On the fucking check out conveyor

That's hardcore anon.
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>>24582392
Please, post results.
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>>24582445
>tfw Target rejected you.

hahahaha fuck Target I'm glad they died!
Instead of a Bullseye they should have a Bullsass because the only thing they offer is shit.
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>>24582392
What is the accuracy of your scale?
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>>24582392
Pls deliver
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>>24581616

Pull rates for Pokemon boxes has never been that consistent since XY due to the increased pull rates for chase rares. I'll be posting my pull rresults when my boxes arrive and watch the guy ranted on why people are buying Breakthrough
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>>24582448
>>24582550
>>24582592
>>24583102
Will open pulls at league tonight, also post.

>>24583025
its an Aws-100 100g*0.01
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>Box at Target contains BREAKthrough.
>Told by the employees that I have to to wait for the vendor to open the boxes AGAIN despite them breaking street date on TCG products several times.

Okay, this Target's going on my shit list now.
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Anyone know why Ho-oh is the most expensive COL secret rare shiny? I thought they would all be the same price roughly, but Ho-oh wins out by an extra 5-10 USD.
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>>24581781
At least that is usable.

>>24581801
The same name as yours my brother, the same name as yours.
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Well, the vendor's here but she's taking her sweet-ass time restocking.

Goddamn it all...

>>24583350

It was probably short-printed.
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>>24581801
I've pulled 2 FA M Rayquaza ROS, 1 FA Rayquaza, and a regular of each. And I can't trade any of them. And I don't wanna make the deck.
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Why is weighing allowed? If I catch one of you punks in the store weighing packs, i'm gonna punch you in the face and steal your scale
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>>24583594

Enjoy losing your job over nothing, dingbat.
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what size sleeve do you buy for the half cards
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>>24583679

What do mean by half cards?
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>>24583687
Those break cards that are half size
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>>24583693

Just use the same sleeves you use for normal Pokemon cards, then.
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>>24583679
>>24583687
>>24583693
oh maybe it's a regular sized card and just printed sidways
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>>24583594
the appropriate response is to call a manager/employee over and accuse the person of stealing
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>>24583760

And the easiet way to get them to fuck off is by saying "no scale, no sale".
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>Vendor just started to put up BREAKthrough packs.

It's times like this that make me wish I had remembered to bring my scale...

Ah well... No use crying over the past, eh? I guess I'll have to stick to the 3-pack blisters for now.
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>>24580860

Finally getting to reply, was 4am where I was when I posted my question.

Ah.... as of right now, I've pulled Camerupt, Blastoise, Gardevoir and Lucario EX. 1 of each. So nothing really groundbreaking. XY Blue theme was pretty fun to play around with, but I bought the Iron Tide deck and I've been having fun with it as well. So Water/Steel would be what I'm enjoying at the moment.

>>24580879

Seems like theres a lot more to this than just: Pick some strong cards you like, pick some trainers, load some energy in and off you go. Ha
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It's about damn time...

1/2
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>>24584172
Any other merchandise other than the packs getting stocked? I hate buying single packs, plus I don't have a scale.
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>>24584172

2/2

And yes, I'm picking up two of each.
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While everyon'es buying break
I'm still gonna be scrounging for xy,flashfire,furious fists, primal clash, phantom forces packs. Since I'm late to the collecting party.
What tin's have xy packs in them?
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>>24584181

And I forgot the pic...

>>24584178

I saw the ETBs, but that's it.
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>>24584188

GODDAMN IT!
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Thanks RNG
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>>24584227
Enjoy your predetermined loss
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>>24584239
I WONT GIVE UP. I NEVER GIVE UP.


WITH MY DRILL, I'LL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!
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>>24584227
Perfect time to use that AZ
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>>24584250
slow down there senpai
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And it looks like they have the decks in stock too...
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>>24584280
Please, post the content of both decks.
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>>24584284

Sure thing...
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>>24584290

Now here's the question for you folks...

More 3-pack blisters or an ETB?
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>>24584280
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Burning_Spark_%28TCG%29

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Night_Striker_%28TCG%29
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>>24584227
>I actually lost to this shit deck because of RNG
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>>24584309
why they blackk and white?
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>>24584324

It means the user doesn't have those cards in his or her collection.
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>>24584290
>>24584303
Aw man, both are shit (as always). Well, Noivern's one looks a bit better than Raichu's, but stilll...

>More 3-pack blisters or an ETB?

BLISTERS, BLISTERS.
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>>24584335
Then how is he allowed to use them in his deck?
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>>24584324
>>24584366
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>>24584227
>play d valley
>get a new hand?
what is the problem here?
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>>24584384

I reckon he doesn't want to waste the rest of his hand
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>>24584401
2 d valley 1 bolbat and one AZ
if he doesn't have any leftover copies of those he's not running a consistent deck
wobbu should run 4 stadiums anyways
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>>24584373
What? I dont know. Does it mean you can test the deck out against computer using cards you don't own but not allowed to use it against other players? Or are you allowed to use cards you dont own in decks against other palyers? Then what would be the point of collecting cards?
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