Use pastebin if you want to show us your team! Don't be a faggot!
>Sites
nuggetbridge.com
eggyemporium.com (Wolfe Glick and Markus Stadter's VGC blog)
http://www.oldmanvgc.com/ (jap meta site, has English translations)
>YouTube channels
http://pastebin.com/kKEpQSUN
http://nuggetbridge.com/forums/topic/8765-pokemon-vgc-youtube-resources/
>Helpful links and articles
http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/an-early-vgc-2015-metagame-overview/
http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/vgc-15-pokemon-speed-tiers/
http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/flawless-bust-catch-perfect-legendary-pokemon-omega-ruby-alpha-sapphire/
http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/battle/oras/#double (usage stats and recommendations)
http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/defend-yourself-with-a-question/ (how to stop playing like a fag)
http://nuggetbridge.com/damagecalc/ (VGC orientated damage calc)
http://survivalcalc.appspot.com/ (attack survival calculator)
http://www.teammagma.net/teambuilder/
>Pastebin with everything you need to inject the most used legendaries, read it for instructions and post in the thread if you need help.
http://pastebin.com/KM6nB86q
ToTT: Is your favorite pokemon useful in VGC?
Old thread: >>23168857
>>23207594
Yes, but you can only build so many rain teams
Favourite to use is Crawdaunt
Favourite useful mon is MVenu or Zapdos
>>23207594
>ToTT: Is your favorite pokemon useful in VGC?
My favorite mon is NFE, so no.
ToTT : you betcha
>>23207680
Could you guys help me building a rain dance team ? I'm thinking about something with M-Swampert, also sap sipper redirect grass moves like Lightning Rod ?
>>23207868
>also sap sipper redirect grass moves like Lightning Rod ?
I've never seen the situation come up, but I'm damn sure it doesn't.
>>23207892
i expressed myself badly, i meant of if Sap sipper redirects grass moves just like Lightning Rod redirects electric moves
anyone else have rage issues with pokemon? I'm not an angry person, the last time I even raised my voice at someone was two years ago. but with pokemon, when I get haxxed, particularly higher on the ladder I freak out, break stuff, yell etc. it's emotionally taxing, makes me not wanna play the game. I don't know what to do
>>23207974
I'm just like you. Just try to keep calm on sanctioned events because you can get a ban. In your house you can yell and break whatever you want.
>>23207921
That's how I interpreted it.
>>23207974
this, I'm a extremely calm person, but when someone defeats my pokemons in only one turn I get so fucking pissed. when I saw someone with a team using only legendaries I just stopped playing pkmn for 1 whole week to contain myself
>>23207594
ToTT: Raichu. I'd say yes. Less than 2014, but way better than before it. The support it gives + stopping annoying Thundurus makes it nice in some teams.
>>23208018
Maybe you should try a team completely made up of legendaries yourself, instead of raging. Maybe that way you'll win for a trade. Stop being a special snowflake.
I think too much diversity can be pretty bad for the game if you want to play competitively; losing at team preview because you can't check all the threats would be a horrible.
How do you lot feel about the current meta, is it too over centralised? Could it stand to be a bit more diverse?
>>23208589
Honestly? I love this meta. The only thing I would change is Mega Kanga's ridicolous ability, but other than that, I think it's very well balanced.
>>23208654
Agreed. This year us pretty great, Adamant Double Edges aside. The fact that a ton of Pokemon can work with good support, even the likes of Mega Banette, is pretty cool.
>>23208018
Git gud. Legendaries are just strong pokemon. A whole team of the viable ones this year would have terrible synergy anyway.
>>23208679
Weird thing is, Landorus, Thundurus, Suicune etc. all have lower BSTs than psuedo-legendaries, but people complain about them way more.
So..these pokemon events, don't you have to be a kid to participate?
can't imagine some 28 year old neckbeard at a kid's event trying to get his smogon ladderfagging on. This isn't how these events are...right?
>>23209505
What kind events are you talking about?
>>23208654
the funny thing about kangaskhan is that I find Scrappy more unnerving than parental bond.
I've been on a losing streak in Doubles on Battlespot, the only success I've had is with HItmonchan, Competitive Milotic, Assault Vest Goodra, and Weakness Policy Virizion. The rest of my team seems like dead weight, and I want to use a Mega that's underused, but can't bring myself to use M-Banette. M-Houndoom gets shit on by rain teams, M-Latias seems like a liability, M-Audino seems too passive, and Mega Scizor fails on non-rain teams. WHat Mega should I use?
>>23209732
Just use Kangaskhan.
>>23209732
MegaGet Gud
>>23209505
At official events like regionals and nationals there's probably about a 10 Masters/2 seniors/1 juniors ratio
Smaller events like premier challenges are more like 20/1/1
Sure, you're a spergy neckbeard for going to these events, but so is everyone else.
>>23209790
I actually used a Kangaskhan in BW OU, and when I heard about it getting a Mega, I was fucking thrilled, but its overuse has made me kinda jaded.
hey OP why aren't entei and tornadus on the pastebin?
>>23209808
refusing to use something just because it's overused is a relatively stupid mentality. It only makes sense if you're at worlds or something and you need to surprise very experienced and tested players with something unique, see for example Sejun's pachirisu.
>>23209803
>>23209849
Are the people that win the actual game championships (like, whatever the highest "tier" of championship is, idk shit about pokemon competitive irl events) usually some turbo manchild in his late 20s? or is it always some kid? kinda funny if the world champ of pokemon is some CWC clone
>>23209875
I just don't want to be predictable. Mega Kang and the like have a very specific way to be run. I try my best to create teams that use unexpected tactics, without being too "lol ebin :^)" level gimmicky. Exactly the reason I don't use baton pass. I won a local tourney using a Facade Kangaskhan, Custap Metagross, Harvest Tropius, Life Orb Sheer Force Glare Druddigon, Focus Band Head Smash Aggron, and Rocky Helmet Blissey.
>>23209877
The CWC types tend to not do very well. There are different age divisions so little kids can't win all of them, the oldest division is usually dominated by late teens/early 20's people who mostly look normal (unless you're here, where everyone will find any excuse to call someone ugly/neckbeard/etc)
>>23209936
>that team
literally ashton cox tier, except I've never seen you top regionals. It'd be really fun if you managed to win something big with that strategy.but seriously, if you can succed with that stuff, using a "normal" team will probably work wonders
>>23209732
>weakness policy virizion
what supereffective hits can it survive? what spread do you use?
>>23210037
Im a poor dude livin in NJ, family isnt too supportive of a 19yr old Poke-fag, but now that I have my own car, and I may be moving out soon, I may finally be able to go to the regionals. And honestly the only reason I compete is because Im able to gen things at a retarded pace. All my mons are functionally and aesthetically pleasing. The Metagross was in a Net ball, Tropius was a Dream or Nest, I cant remember, Kang was caught in a Level Ball, Drudd was a Pokeball, Aggron was in a Pokeball too, same with Blissey. The strat wasnt even convoluted either.
>>23210071
I use a 252 HP 252 Spd 6 SpD
Its used predominantly in rain. Its Heatran/ Mega Char Y bait. Switch it in predicting a Heat Wave/ Flamethrower, have a Prankster set up Rain Dance. It has a Naive nature, so I run Mixed. It was a gimmick that just ended up working. It also survives Poison, and Psychic moves amazingly. Giga Drain, Sacred Sword, Protect, Helping Hand / Hidden Power of Choice.
>>23210071
Forgot to mention that Hidden Power Rock with a +SpAtk nature at +2 will OHKO a 0 Hp /0 SpD Charizard Y.
>>23209877
If anything, there's the highest concentration of overweight neckbeards with speech impediments around the level of people who go equal wins/losses. Top cut is usually people who seem fairly normal.
>>23213290
Not particularly original. A lot of people use it for calm-mind setup or trick room setting.
Of course, Slowking is way better.
>>23213290
Someone posted a spread for mega Slowbro on the last thread. Non mega can also work, it has Oblivious and an unpredictable move set.
>>23213302
>Slowking is way better
how so?
>>23215105
That has to be sarcasm.
r8 my team?
>http://pastebin.com/djFpLbdb
I thought in using Salamence and Togekiss in the place of Kangaskhan and Volcarona but I dunno.
>>23215105
Slowking is cuter and has a hat.
How do I trick room in vgc /vp/ ?
>>23217283
Seconding this.
Camerupt seems like the obvious mega since he helps against the Mawile TR mirror and is the slowest thing on the field.
Seems good for laddering (hard, fast offense) on cart/showdown, but how do we manage playing against people at PCs etc. that are prepared for TR teams?
>>23217283
On a related note, how good is aegislash in trick room?
>>23217585
Not at all. Aegi likes being the slower one, so it tanks things in shield form, then hits back in blade form AFTER everything else on the field has already attacked.
>>23217283
>>23217574
I've had a lot of success with CharY+Venu in a semi-TR team. I don't think full TR is as good, the fast mode is too useful for when it's impractical to get TR setup.
>>23217656
What's the mega you use inside trick room?
>>23217283
https://www. youtube. com/watch?v=-RGNjmRGHC4
https://www. youtube. com/watch?v=rI3ClFCgOYk
http:// nuggetbridge. com/reports/unlikely-alliance-10th-place-arnhem-regionals-report/
These three team seem to be the only good trick room teams that i found. However the last one is semi-trick room
>>23219357
The one in the 2nd link has a tr team at imouto island and it looks decent, but looks too much like Cybertron's team
Has anyone here ever had their rank removed from the leaderboards? It just happened to me, I think because of multiple disconnections. Can you get listed back on there if you keep playing and don't disconnect?
>>23221156
You can try resetting your rank (by accessing Battle Spot with your cart inserted on a different 3DS/2DS) but I'm not really sure that would fix it as that's probably account-related.
>>23221156
Removed? So are you just not showing up on the Pokémon-GL website, or does it give a specific error? And what does it give your ranking as on cart?
I've never heard of that happening before, disconnections just count as a loss and your opponent gets a win, so there's no point in penalising them.
I have in mind a Mega Mence/Mamoswine core with a pseudo-sunny LeviTran Cressy and, well, Heatran as partners.
However, I'm utterly lost as to who else to add. I'm thinking of finishing up a Fantasy but I really don't know. Any suggestions?
>>23221915
slap your team onto the team magma teambuilder and try to fiil the coverage holes. Then tweak around until you settle.
Is my bro viable at all in vgc?
>>23224945
Ally switch, wide guard, pretty gud attack power. It's certainly viable, but I haven't really seen anyone use it succesfully yet.
>>23221608
It shows my rating in-game but on my PGL profile it's blank and doesn't show on the leaderboards
I thought it only happened if you were caught using illegal pokemon, but I was already on the leaderboard using the same team
>>23221156
>>23225352
you need to stop ragequiting, and this issue has no fix, you need to wait until next season to see your scores, it happened to me last season
>>23225374
What if your internet has stability problems or something? Seems like a better solution would be to just temporarily ban you from playing like every other game
>>23225392
yeah, masuda is a bitch
im really sorry
>>23225352
Okay hold up what the fuck, it actually came back overnight after I played a bunch of matches
I'm confused now
>>23225437
Maybe you need to be above a certain ratio of finished games to DCs, or it was all just an error on their end.
>make Mega Blaziken team
>suddenly Cresselia on literally every team
>>23226624
> not having a Cresselia counter on an obviously weak-to-Cresselia team
Do you like to lose anon?
>>23226624
On the topic of blaziken, has anyone tried mixed LO Blaziken? It can OHKO 44 HP Lando-T with a non SpA reducing nature and 84 SpA EVs. A speed with 236 Speed EVs also outspeeds adamant scarf Lando-T after a speed boost.
>>23226685
I think that's becoming a bigger thing recently
>>23226685
I've heard of mixed LO with HP Ice and 1 or 2 physical STABs
>>23226914
>>23226835
Yeah, I'm using this set (but other than thundurus, I have no idea what to do for teammembers since I've never ran Blaziken before):
Blaziken @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
Level: 50
EVs: 176 Atk / 4 Def / 84 SpA / 244 Spe
Naive Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Low Kick
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Protect
OHKOs 44 HP Lando-T with HP Ice, outspeeds adamant scarf Lando-T (214 speed) and everything below after a single speed boost. The rest of the EVs are dumped into Atk.
>>23226963
I've seen Superpower and even Brave Bird being used sometimes. It kind of works like a harder-hitting Talonflame without priority.
You might want to give it QG support since not even all of the fast in the world will save you from priority and with LO recoil and how frail Blaziken is you need to support it to do something before it dies.
>>23226685
I think someone used it at apex and did well with it, but that was three months ago. However, it should still be viable.
>>23226685
I've run a special Blaziken with Sash and it was pretty good. Only flaw was constant AND I MEAN CONSTANT Focus Miss living up to its name.
I have tried a mixed Infernape and that's working pretty cool.
>>23227015
Unless you're running Rock Slide over a more generally useful move on Blaziken, Quick Guard is a waste of time, since your ally will Quick Guard and then Blaziken will do bugger all to the Talonflame, then die next turn. It's better to just Protect the Blaziken and have something that can kill Talonflame.
>>23226624
Why would ever play without a check/counter for CM Cress?
>>23226963
I mostly see people go with Overheat and Superpower for the STAB options.
Also use 30/31/30/31/31/31 for the IVs it's still Ice but without reducing Attack or Speed.
>>23228064
>lost to a KhanArtist for the first time in months
I think I'm getting rusty
Any bongs going to UK Regionals next weekend?Got your teams ready yet?
>>23213920
I couldn't find it.
Just fought a decently ranked player (~1680) using a Cheri Berry (Heals paralysis) Terrakion, with no obvious Lum Berry users on the rest of his team.
Not sure if this is pro strats, given that, to be fair, I did Thunder Wave it, or if he just didn't think his items through properly. Presumably you'd rather be paralysed than burned or asleep.
>>23230599
They must have had lum on something unexpected then. It would be retarded to use cheri if you still had lum available
>tfw you top cut in the nugget bridge major
and people were saying Dragalge was not viable.
>>23230779
I think only people on /vp/ says that, and they know shit about viability. Congrats man, I hope you make it further into the top. I'd love to have a peek at your team if you don't mind.
>>23230812
Thanks. I'm probably gonna use the same team for the rest of the tourney and I would prefer it not to be revealed anywhere yet (extremely paranoid now), but I can tell you that it's TR with Cresselia.
>>23230844
No worries, I understand.
On the note of "not viable pokes", yesterday I made top 8 on a regional with Mega Sceptile, losing only one match in Swiss. Granted, it was a south american regional, but there are great players down here too.
Good partners for mega glalie? Yes, yes, I know, but I really want to make it work if I can. Would Protect Imprison be a decent place to start?
>>23231160
I really don't see Glalie going anywhere, but if you manage to get lucky with moody it could do work.
Jellicent could probably pair well enough with it.
>>23231160
I don't think anyone who could ever make Mega Glalie work would be asking how to make it work on /vp/ of all places. Sorry to burst your bubble or something.
>>23231160
If I were to use it, I'd go for an offensive movest. Glalie wasn't made to disrupt opponents, just to hit as hard as possible
>>23231642
Glalie doesn't seem to learn Imprison, so presumably he meant running Imprison so that Glalie could safely Explode and hit both targets? Although it's fun, that seems a shit strategy overall. You're killing a mega and taking a support Pokémon's turn for one big attack, even if it is 215 effective base power, with ice type, against both.
>>23231702
Actually, considering refrigerate, STAB and spread damage, explosion would be like a 365 BP move on each target. It would be like a Charizard's Overheat on each target
252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew in Sun: 213-252 (121.7 - 144%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Refrigerate Mega Glalie Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 216-255 (123.4 - 145.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Of course, the set up needed to ensure success with that would take a lot of support and you would lose your mega. I don't think it's worth it, though it may be fun
http://pastebin.com/4HRNccsa
Rate and hate, boys. Kind of a modified VGC 14 team I was working on, suggestions and questions are welcome.
>>23231846
Nice EV spread on that Clefairy, mind telling us how you came up with those numbers?
>>23231901
>>23231846
First thing I see is the lack of protect. I know You have a choice user and an AV user, but I can imagine a hell of a lot of difficult situations with this team. When your opponent brings in a Charizard on your boosted Scizor, what then? Drop the boosts and take a massive Heat Wave to the face?
Not sure you'd like to face Landorus too much either. Mamoswine checks it, but it needs 3 hits with Icicle Spear to even OHKO 4HP variant, and given the lack of protect, it's likely to be able to U-Turn out of there to build up intimidates, or just attack whatever you have out to deal huge damage.
In all honestly, it looks like the big spread moves (besides Sylveon) are your biggest problems, so I'd consider a Wide Guarder.
Been doing decent but I think there is room for improvement. Fine with replacing a few members
http://pastebin.com/mSPE653L
Rate my team
http://pastebin.com/u8icrAAA
I'm a shitter
>>23232370
I would agree. I'd rather run damp rock in singles where weather is much harder to manage due to it not being permanent, but 5 turns is plenty in VGC, as that's honestly as long as a lot of games last. I'd rather run scarftoed or a bulky support toed with helping hand or icy wind.
Politoed + Ludicolo is also a combination that can reasonably fit on a lot of teams without really committing the entire team to rain. What megas do you like to use alongside rain, besides the obvious M-Swampert, /vgc/?
I haven't played vgc in about two weeks and I just had my last round of the major...I got my shit rocked. Ended up going 5-4, I guess that's ok since I started playing vgc when this general began.
>>23233345
Mega metagross or scizor are possible choices since the rain lessens their weakness to fire
what kinda spreads should i be looking at for a venu/charizard 7 pledge team. I know i need charizard to be max SpA for the pledge and venu needs to be fast but not sure about anything else, anyone have any tried and tested spreads?
Alright i think Ive fixed Mega Audino.
No one has noticed this apparently:
>Audino gets Snatch
>Higher prioity than Fake Out
>Cotton Guard Prankster Mons Exist
>+3 Mega Audino Turn 2
>Proceed to Icy Wind everything + Helping Hand
Heres the set:
252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 Def
Calm Nature
>Snatch
>Helping Hand
>Dazzling Gleam (fuk fight/dark)
>Icy Wind (fuk draguns)
Also snatch can steal Swords Dances and Nasty Plots, giving Audino complete control over boosters.
>>23233947
Looks interesting. Have you tried this out yet?
>>23233955
Yes, to extreme success. Its only counter is MEga Mawile. Huge Power Iron Head rapes it. It has the bulk to survive 5 Iron Heads from an Adamant 252 Atk Mega Aggron, and it gets 8HKOd by Garchomp, who it happens to 4HKO. It needs all the help it can get against any bulky water or grass type though. Swampert and Gastrodon cant touch it, but it cant touch them either. Its a hardcore support thats used as a diversion. Granted I run Red Card on some of my mons. Its normally paired with EndeavourSash Whimsicott who cotton guards first turn. Fucking Megakhans with Endeavour + Icywind is hilarious.
>>23233977
Snatch can also steal recovery moves like Moonlight, Synthesis and Recover. So it also solves the whole "no recovery" problem. Sadly its niche for that use.
>>23233977
do you have any replays to see it in action?
>>23234006
Most people DC when they get OHKOd or @HKOd by a fucking Audino, once I start to climb more, Ill post em. I only play on cart though, I inject to test them. Its more fun to play the actual meta than to go on smogon and play what is essentially a completely different meta. Anyone else use M-Audino?
>>23233977
Do you test it against Bisharp?
>>23234020
gib pastebin?i want to inject this
>>23234023
I normally have a Mach Puncher paired with it to compensate, but yeah Bisharp cant touch it. Its steel type repellent man.
>252+ Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. +3 252 HP / 6+ Def Mega Audino: 84-102 (20.4 - 24.8%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
>>23234035
The sets iin the botttom half of >>23233947
Make adjustments as you see fit.
>>23233947
Sounds neat. I'm curious though what does M-Audino bring to the table that other snatch users don't? Genuinely interested, I have not paid much mind to snatch in the past.
>>23234086
Mega Audino has a support role unlike most snatchers, and isnt doing it to get off a boost for a OHKO, its doing it to piss off everyone else. The only other snatcher like it is snorlax. Except Snatch M-Audino has retarded bulk after being fed a Cotton Guard by a buddy. Absolutely retarded.
>>252+ Atk Bisharp Iron Head vs. +3 252 HP / 6+ Def Mega Audino: 84-102 (20.4 - 24.8%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
It also has access to Heal Pulse and Helping Hand, no other snatcher has both.
>>23234044
Holy shit.
Who do you team it with? Audino itself isn't going to be doing heavy damage I presume, so wouldn't it's partner be a prime target for attacking?
>>23234268
it seems like pairing it with something with ally switch could be really good
>>23233947
>it can snatch healing moves
holy shit
>>23234319
I don't know, you would be getting no offensive pressure if you have audino and something ally switching. Sure, they wouldn't hit you, but you can't do much either
>>23233947
What are the other five you use?
>>23233947
>252+ Atk Choice Band Rampardos Head Smash vs. +6 252 HP / 4+ Def Mega Audino: 48-57 (22.8 - 27.1%)
I think that's the hardest unboosted physical attack in the meta.
>>23233947
>252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Audino: 104-126 (49.5 - 60%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
>76 SpA Mega Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Mega Audino: 80-96 (38 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
I'm sure you have something do deal with special steal and poison attackers?
>>23234469
>steal
>>23234469
It's almost 1 am where I am, cut me some slack
>>23234605
And I meant to reply to >>23234566. Good night vgcg
To anyone lurking during dead hours:
What is your best switch in on a talonflame.
>>23235451
Bulky Landorus of course.
>>23235451
Zapdos.
>>23235451
Rotom-w
>>23235451
almost any rock type
>want Damp Rock
>apparently don't have one
>it's daily gift at the weather institute
>get Icy Rock yesterday
>get Smooth Rock today
injecting please come back
Reminder that if your record in the NB major was better than 1-3, you did better than cybertron and babbytron
>>23236573
>tfw want to try out the audino above
>not interested enough to breed it
RIP injecting ;_;
>>23236825
Try it out on showdown
>>23236834
Accidentally erased all my cookies on chrome, don't want to bother with elo hell. Oh well.
>>23236849
What are you talking about, just use your account.
>>23236849
Your ranking is stored on their end. Just remake the team and start where you left off.
>>23236879
>>23236903
Did not realize, partly because I almost never use showdown. Thanks anons.
does anyone have baz's mega scizor spread?
>>23238419
in the last thread someone said it was
236 hp/92 att/4 def/156 SpD/20 spe
adamant
>when your team is weak to mega gallade/greninja
lol the low ladder
> can't connect to the PGL because of scheduled maintenance
> free battles, why the hell not
> finds opponent, full-on ubers team
> ohboyohboy.jpg
> testing out pledges team anyway, nothing much to lose
> leads zard y/venusaur against primal kyogre/m-swampert
> charizard y's drought
> there is no relief from this heavy rain!
> mfw
> charizard y used fire pledge!
> the fire-type move dissipated in the heavy rain!
tfw your opponent still dcs when origin pulse missed and low kick almost ohko'd his dialga
>>23240090
>trying to use fire pledge in heavy rain
why do people even bother with perish trap? it's the epitome of a middle of the road strategy that will win you a few games against inexperienced players, nothing more
>>23240307
I think those that run thunder wave/swagger are more cancerous
>>23240307
don't forget dark void
>>23240307
D'aww did you just lose to it? Don't cry.
>>23239810
>>23240307
>people who act like this
You're not gonna get any better if all you do about less used strategies is complain about them.
>>23210488
That makes sense. Doing well in Pokemon requires a certain degree of social skill and intuition (i.e., being able to read people's emotions and predict their next movement)
>>23240915
actually I almost never lose to it. disable/encore/fake out/eject button whatever, it's all so predictable. That's why the archetype has never won a major tournament
>>23210488
To a degree yeah. It helps when the Pokemon metagame is small enough to where we don't have our own superstar autist like M2K to sweep the field. In fact most guys in me region are my age (22), going to college, and usually dress and smell nice.
Daily reminder that even if you're a neckbeard playing competitive videogames, you can still do your part to work on your appearance. After all, hypothetically, say you do get big in the community, what kind of impression do you want to leave?
Post the megas you've been using over the seasons
>Manetric
>Gyarados
>Glalie
What have you been trying out?
>Alakazam
>Banette
What do you want to try, but have yet to?
>Audino
>Lopunny
>Sabeleye
>>23224969
Wow, didn't know he had both those moves. Interesting....
However, as I've found Mantine seems to be better at wide guarding.
>>23242681
What set have you used with banette? I've always wanted to try it out
>>23233947
Well damn, I know what I wanna try.
>>23235451
Rhydon when I use him. Otherwise Manetric or Gyarados
>>23242681
I got my ass kicked by a guy who used Willo/Protect/Disable/knock off, and I'm trying to mimic that. Haven't tested enough to say how good it is though.
>>23208018
Totally agree, using legendaries is against the spirit of the game plus it's almost certain that they're injected, it makes me mad
Will Mega Charizard X be as good as its brother in VGC?
>>23242971
Got a friend trying to run one. I'll see if I can get his set
>>23242681
>Post the megas you've been using over the seasons
The ones I used so far are (in order) Kangaskhan, Salamence, Tyranitar, Metagross and Camerupt. Camerupt has been the most successful so far.
>What have you been trying out?
I tried out Lopunny but I didn't like it very much.
>What do you want to try, but have yet to?
Sharpedo and Lucario. I feel like thay have some untapped potential.
>>23242681
Post the megas you've been using over the seasons
>Charizard Y
>Gyarados
>Sceptile
>Camerupt
Overall I'm pretty happy with all of them, but I have yet to use Camerupt in a tournament
What have you been trying out?
>Houndoom, with poor results
>Garchomp, with decent results
>Latias, with decent results
What do you want to try, but have yet to?
>Sableye, seems kinda anti-meta, I enjoy that
>Blaziken, same as Sableye
>Charizard Y, i want to try a really different set, don't know if it counts
>Banette, it's a big guy
http://pastebin.com/2hzsHpXY
Need advice for this team. Durant is cool but just isn't cutting the mustard. Anybody recommend a replacement?
>>23242681
Using:
>Zard Y
>Venusaur
>Manectric
Tried:
>Altaria (overall great w/tailwind support, but fails to pick up KOs at times)
>Gallade (good surprise wide guarder, decent attacker)
>Latias (decent as a secondary mega)
>Slowbro (it sucks without max SpD investment, and even then, it's underwhelming)
Yet to try:
>Lopunny
>Sceptile
>Audino
>>23242681
>Post the megas you've been using over the seasons
Kang - December
Camerupt and Metagross - January
Venusaur and Mence - February
CharY - March
Heracross - April
I typically build one or two teams a month and work with for quite a bit of time. 'Cause I'm fairly new to doubles metas I've been trying all sorts of different playstyles.
>What do you want to try, but have yet to?
Slowbro looks pretty cool stat wise but the typing has me hesitate.
Gyarados looks really nice and bulky for a setup sweeper so I'm interested in using it.
>>23243609
>Serious natured Durant
Try Jolly and report back.
Also I don't think Rhydon is really that good to use outside of Sun or TR and I'd probably use Hammer Arm or Ice Punch over Metal Burst as well, has it been doing anything for you?
AV Conk really wants SpD investment, you'd probably have a bit more success with Sitrus and maybe Ice Punch there as well.
In general it's a little weird to see a team with no Ice attacks anywhere, do you not feel a little weak to Landorus-T, especially Stone Edge variants, or M-Mence?
>>23243609
Your teams looks extremely weak to rain. I'd probably start building again from Mantine/Manectric, the rest don't look very good together.
>>23243776
Damn it, I thought I fixed that. Thanks for catch. The Conk is doing alright as far as taking special hits, only issue is lack of protect. I did feel like I was missing something, going through the typings does have it merits so I'll reevaluate. I ran Ice Punch before Metal Burst but have had better results with the former, so I'll be switching back.
>>23243822
The Rhydon's mostly for lightningrod support. Durant and Gardevoir are indeed having questionable synergy atm, of course it may just be my lack of experience with using Gard.
>>23242681
>Post the megas you've been using over the seasons
Mawile, Charizard-Y, Abomasnow, Camerupt, Aerodactyl
>What have you been trying out?
Metagross, Gardevoir
>What do you want to try, but have yet to?
Salamence, Gyarados, Tyranitar, Charizard-X
I don't know why I've been avoiding DD megas. I used to think they required too much support, with recent articles seeing success with Gyarados and Salamence, I want to try the DD megas, if only for shits and giggles.
Would anybody be interested in a guide on how to prepare yourself for a tournament? I don't just mean team prepping, I mean like what to do the morning of, scouting, meal plans, etc.
>>23242681
Post the megas you've been using over the seasons
>Zard-Y
>Aerodactyl
>Lucario
>Sceptile
>Gardevoir
What have you been trying out?
>Still on my Gard Team
What do you want to try, but have yet to?
>Fuck Megas
>>23244428
yes
>>23244428
That sounds great
>>23242681
>Post the megas you've been using over the seasons
Mawile, Altaria, Gyarados
>What have you been trying out?
Different Altaria
>What do you want to try but have yet to?
Lopunny and Blaziken
>>23242681
Been using
>Gardevoir
>Metagross
>Lopunny
>Tyranitar
Trying out
>Gyarados
>Latias
Want to try
>Glalie
>Charizard Y
>Kangaskhan
Honestly not sure why I haven't tried Kangaskhan yet. I used it in XY OU when it first came out, and bulky variant fits my playstyle fairly well. I don't have a problem with not being a special snowflake either, but I just don't have much desire to use it.
>>23242681
Have used:
>Salamence
>Kangaskahn
>Camerupt
>Lucario
>Tyranitar
>Aerodactyl
Trying out:
>Banette
>Slowbro
>Garchomp
Want to try:
>Audino
>Latias
>Blastoise
>Lopunny
>Sableye
>>23242681
Not sure how to distinguish between what I've "used" and what I've "tried".
I've taken all of:
Venusaur, CharY, Gengar, Kangaskhan, Gyarados, Manectric, Lucario, Abomasnow and Slowbro to tournaments, and have also used
CharX, Aerodactyl, Pinsir, Tyranitar, Blaziken, Gardevoir, Mawile, Garchomp, Salamence, Metagross and Gallade in teams that I never developed enough to want to use at tournaments.
>>23244428
Absolutely
>>23244428
Yes, please
>>23245211
used is past tense, trying is present tense and stuff you're experimenting with.
>>23245402
>>23245518
>>23244761
>>23244772
Cool, me and a friend are making one now. We intend to at least lightly cover where to look for tourneys, what you should bring and what you should prepare for, and what to do at. Will post when finished.
>>23245958
Thanks a lot!
I never feel confident about my teams and end up being nervous to try them out. Is there any tips for building solid teams? Preferably something that isn't a huge wall of text with a bunch of unrelated shit.
>>23243609
I've actually tried out a team VERY similar to yours with the Mantine/M-Manectric/Rhydon combo with moderate success, down to the same natures on all of those. I had EQ instead of DR on Rhydon, and Ice Beam instead of Confuse Ray on Mantine though. And Manectric was somewhat invested in bulk, taking a little out of the speed EVs since your goal is to tailwind anyway. I didn't use Metal Burst too often, but it was pretty good when it worked.
Sadly I never finished building the team, as I couldn't find the perfect 6th member for it, but I ran a Scrafty and bulky LO/SD Scizor as my other members. Durant is a cool idea but it's too frail. Good luck.
>>23246373
Not sure what exactly you're looking for, but this is what basically everyone will tell you:
If you're too nervous to test out your teams, you'll never get anywhere. A big part of the game is always experience. Go into battles expecting to lose. If you're still too nervous for some reason, try out someone else's team. Watch how they play. Get a general feel for the flow of the game and how to use the team efficiently. Then maybe you'll gain enough confidence to do the same with your own team someday.
>>23246373
start with your basic damage dealing mon. Perhaps your mega. build a support for it, and then a complimenting team with the same playstyle but different stats and coverage. For example if you have a trick room setup, get more slow sweepers or TR setups.
Usual format is 1-2 supports/re-directors, 1-2 tanks/ bulky mons, and the rest sweepers.
Honestly, big advice is think "how do I want to win?" Think of the path you will take to victory, then pave the road and solidify your strategy.
Then you have to test. You think you can just bring a team untested and win a tournament? Nah dude.
Honestly, you'll do fine. Pokemon is 30% teambuilding and 70% in game playing. Go into each match understanding you can win, you just have to make it happen. Then plan how to make it happen.
Major's top cut requirements have been extended, check if you're in.
what's the spread of Master Baz's Cresselia?
>>23246839
>107 players top cut
Christ, isn't this thing long enough?
>Get top cut at some PCs
>Have a 1400 elo in showdown
>one day go to regionals and go 2-7
>Now my elo is stuck between 1000-11000
Guys this is scaring me how terrible I seem to have become. How could I have gotten so bad so quickly? No way in hell my previous victories were flukes
>>23243609
>Manectric fast as hell, doesn't need Tailwind
>Conk too slow for Tailwind
>Durant already pretty damn quick doesn't have huge benefits from Tailwind
>Rhydon too slow for Tailwind
Why are you using Mantine again? It's niche of Wide Guard + Tailwind isn't really doing anything for the team. You'd probably even have more success with a Wide Guard + TWave Regigigas.
>>23247663
>top cutting PCs
>showdown rating
neither of those matter
>>23247816
Honestly, if you want Wide Guard and Tailwind support from one Pokemon, Smeargle probably fills that niche just fine.
>>23247841
>Smeargle
pokemon that did nothing wrong general?
>>23247868
Smeargle might be a huge faggot with Dark Void, but it still warms my heart to see Smeargle transform into a +2 MegaKhan
>>23247893
Shame Mew isn't allowed, I'd totally bring Bunnies to nats.
https://twitter.com/CybertronVGC/status/588157247408209921
>tweeting this
Aaron please
I wish I could run Char-Y and Typlosion, considering it has already flash fire, but fuck heatrans.
>>23248123
he's really getting progressively worse with this sort of thing
Bulky Jumpluff with Rage powder
Y/N?
>>23249302
>252+ Atk Life Orb Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jumpluff: 195-229 (107.1 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>4+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jumpluff in Sun: 152-180 (83.5 - 98.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
>252 SpA Gengar Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jumpluff: 116-138 (63.7 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
>108+ SpA Life Orb Rotom-H Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Jumpluff: 182-218 (100 - 119.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252 Atk Aerilate Mega Salamence Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jumpluff: 258-306 (141.7 - 168.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
>252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jumpluff: 135-160 (74.1 - 87.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
>252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jumpluff: 130-154 (71.4 - 84.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery
Looks questionable to me
>>23249302
I say go for it
>Results in official tournaments don't matter
>>23249516
meant to quote
>>23247830
>>23249516
They don't necessarily matter, PCs for example aren't always very competitive, since some top players don't bother with them, so topping one doesn't mean much. Regionals are bigger tournaments so it's more likely to find better players in there. Don't think that just because a tournament is official it means anything. Maybe you got very lucky on those PC, or maybe you played a bunch of shit players or maybe you had bad luck on the regional or were playing poorly that day, who knows.
>>23249516
I top cut a PC with 10 masters, even though half of them had top cut nats within the last two years I didn't take to mean much 'cause the turnout was so small.
>>23249302
Sure, why the hell not.
Reminder that Jumpluff also gets Encore, Sleep Powder, and is the fastest Pokemon under the sun.
>>23249516
Tournaments here in the southeast are so uncompetitive I literally have to finish first or second to get more points now because of the best finish limit
>>23249302
Depends on what it'd be supporting. I think it'd be pretty hard to justify using it over Amoonguss though for general redirection and sleep.
I just made this team on the spot but I can't decide who my 6th Pokemon could be. I think it should be a fighting type. Any suggestions?
http://pastebin.com/KYjWeUtg
>>23249902
Hitmontop?
>>23249902
Terrakion. PuP Kang with some basic support kinda of tears through your team of 5.
>>23249625
even in the areas with lots of very good players, depending on how people get matched up sometimes total idiots still make cut anyway
>>23249902
252/248/8? Are you fucking kidding me? At level fifty?
Let me tell you something you shithead, you're wasting eight of your EVs there. You could have ONE stat point higher if you went 252/252/4, or even TWO stat points higher if you went 252/244/4/4/4.
I really can't believe you fucked it up that bad, how can you possibly think that that was the best way to do it?
Let me explain, At level 50 you need 8 EVs to gain a stat point, but because it rounds up, having 8x-4 gives the same boost as having 8x.
Since you're giving it a multiple of 8EV in two stats, you're completely wasting eight of your EVs! How can you not get this after I've posted it so many times? I swear to god if you do this one more time I will find out where you live and beat you to death with your own 3DS.
And where did you even get this EV spread? Because Showdown told you to do that? Because Showdown thinks you're going to get toxiced, or use leftovers or substitute? Well fuck Showdown, it works at level 100, while VGC works at level 50. If you don't understand that you deserve to fuck off out of my thread. I'll have you know I have over 2000 confirmed wins and beat sejun at worlds twice, and people like you ruin it with this shit
>>23249948
I missed this
Without Injection General around anymore, where will I go to ask stupid questions?
>>23250310
Apparently you've decided here.
https://twitter.com/RayRizzoVGC/status/588449183478128640
Are you ready for more videos /pc/?
>>23251679
Don't get the connection but I'm happy about it anyway.
>>23247663
>1000-11000
that's a huge margin doe :^)
Now seriously, something nice about them Pokeymans is that the meta is constantly changing and people get more aware of some mons/strats. What used to work last month might not work now and so on and one just needs to adapt, that's where "consistency" comes in.
And regarding the elo just remember that getting out of the lower numbers is always a difficult task because of how diverse and unpredictable things and players get.
>>23251736
I had /pc/ open in the next tab and I got it mixed up.
>haven't played in months
>check the latest cybertron video
>he's using the exact team i've been using since the beginning of the year
eh.
>>23252235
Wow rain! With Metagross and Hydreigon! Very original :)
So should I use Bug Buzz or Struggle Bug on my volcarona?
Anyone doing the April Challenge? I have a team and I would sign up but I'm leaning towards clinging onto injection until there's a premier challenge in my area
jesus christ why
I admire his confidence though, I guess
>>23253324
It's not a panty dropper by any means, but I have told some people I've been playing since '11 and it's made for some decent small talk.
>>23253324
Oh god, this is not going to end well. Do you think we'll start getting vlogs about his depression caused by bullying?
megamence next to follow me lucario.
someone talk me out of this
>>23253367
people are going to bully him for using swagger and shit like that
>>23253252
Struggle bug is a very interesting choice for support volcarona, use it and see how it goes.
>>23253406
Lucario isn't that bulky but see how it goes. Won't stop Sylveon though.
>>23253324
I think he said this speech is gonna be 30 minutes or something ridiculous like that. No one wants to hear about pokemon for 30 minutes. pokemon players don't wanna hear about it for 30 minutes. To a group of non-players, five minutes would be pushing it. top kek
>>23253324
>>23253324
>joys I've found from playing Pokemon
He's in university right?
He's probably in some club or speech class or something. Surly.
>>23253816
isn't he like 17 or something around there? probably in high school
>>23253823
He is? Well he's fucked. Too bad competitive Pokemon doesn't get you rolling in that pokegirl pussy.
I should know, I tried.
>>23253823
no he is in university actually
>>23253831
well it depends on the girl, i guess.
>>23253689
I don't know how is he going to fill that time. Even in his longest non-battle videos, there's a considerable amount of time spent talking about stuff and not pokemon. I wonder if he'll start with "Hey guise, Aron "Cybertron" Zheng here"
>>23253840
He's in high school, he keeps mentioning that he's graduating from it soon
That said, why the fuck does america refer to uni/college as "school", it's the most retarded thing ever
>>23253871
go step on some unexploded ordnance yurotrash
>>23249948
new pasta?
>>23253324
I hope he records it and puts it up on YouTube.
>>23253857
You can talk about anything for any amount of time as long as you're capable. I expect the Pokeymans to be more of a second plane of the speech and extend in the "joys" part of it and how it has affected his life.
is belly drum azumarill viable?
>>23255715
Sort of. I know I've been screwed by it a couple of times because once it's at +6 even a burn won't help that much, just remember you don't need to get a Belly Drum off every single match and know when you can pull it off safely.
Can someone help me find a good replacement for muk and possibly sableye? The whole point of the team is to use mega audino w/snatch and cotton guard Whimsicott to shutdown whatever setup the enemy has and to switch out into a good sweeper for mega audino to further help with helping hand.
http://pastebin.com/9Lc87kVY
>>23255738
would i need a mon with some sort of speed control to be paired with azumarill?
just trying to decide if pairing it with amoonguss is better than pairing it with cress
>>23255764
Maybe, but Aqua Jet kind of makes up for it. Redirection is quite useful so that's a plus for Amoonguss who also can Spore stuff to death but Cresselia is Cresselia.
Another thing that can help with the Azumarill is Fake Out support, which opens up chances to setup.
>>23255715
>>23255764
It's very viable, typically people pair it with FO and Redirection to help get the drum off.
Amoonguss is a very good partner.
Hey fellas, I'm in an interesting position. Should I go modest or timid on my mega Alakazam?
Alakazam @ Alakazite
Ability: Magic Guard
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Serious Nature
- Psychic
- Dazzling Gleam
- Protect
- Encore
I want to go modest for the damage but timid allows me to outspeed mons like Mega Lopunny and Mega Sceptile. Thoughts?
>>23255794
Of course ignore the serious nature
>>23255774
>>23255775
is having raichu as a fake out user a bad idea?
im pretty sure there are better fake out users out there but lightingrod sounds pretty useful
>>23255803
The Raichu-Azu combo was used a fair amount last year, I really like it and I think it's still good. M-Kang is the other obvious FO user, and can play the setup game itself with PuP alongside Amoonguss of a bit of extra party synergy.
>>23255794
I'd say Timid since you could be outspeeding some scarf mons too. You might as well change Dazzling Gleam for HP Ice if you can. I used to try Substitute on MegaZam but Encore seems interesting there.
>>23255803
They cover each other and make a nice and qt combo. You might want to check these articles too.
http://nuggetbridge.com/reports/11th-place-indiana-regional-team-report/
http://nuggetbridge.com/reports/azumarill-rai-choose-nugget-bridge-invitational-champion-report/ (this one's VGC 2014 tho)
>>23255816
>>23255841
Thanks for the help guys!
>>23255794
Dazzling Gleam is terribad without STAB. It's only 80 base before reduction, Rock Slide has 75 base and I hear most good players say they only use such a weak move for the flinches.
>>23255841
HP Ice does help against Lando, but I'm concerned of what else it does
252 SpA Alakazam Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus: 84-100 (54.5 - 64.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
vs
252 SpA Alakazam Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Thundurus: 94-112 (61 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
or say against pokemon like Hydregon or Scrafty, dazzling gleam does work. Am I forgetting something?
>>23255980
MegaMence and the nowadays forgotten Chomp
>>23255983
>>23255980
Ok so I did the numbers and turns out in a x2 most of the time Psychic would actually do more damage than either HP Ice or Dazzling Gleam would (also thanks partially to DG's spread damage reduction), but HP Ice seems to work better in more situations
I feel like these days I can't live without Sableye. The priority taunt and WoW is just too good to not have as well as priority recover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaPMSwIlxP4
great match. I feel like Sejun got haxxed, what do you think? sidenote: scott looks like such an autist on camera top kek but he's gotten a lot better
