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Glorious Evolution edition.

OT: >>94504483

eyosongive.us
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Hello and welcome to 'How to be a BETTER Support' with Vel'koz. I'm Vel'koz.

Today we will be discussing one of the BEST support items in the game. I am of course referring to Zeke's Herald.

The Zeke's is a fantastic item with a fantastic active that compliments every support champion in the game and nearly every team composition. Unless the enemy literally lacks a single CC move it will always have a use in match. It does however build much more easily into particular champions more so then others.

The "Supporty" supports are the most prominent candidates. Champs that are more about back line skill usable that empowers the team or sustains them. Such as Nami, soraka, sona, ect. They can be built with full AP in mind but these picks tend to depend on mana which the Zeke's is in no short supply of. The CDR helps with skills and the active obviously is a life saver if you lack the kit to directly prevent those CC moves from hitting.

Tanky or off AP carry supports tend to skip this item as it offers no direct offensive and low defensive stats still it is worth considering if the enemy team has a strong pick comp or your carries lack escapes.

Remember that the active will not only remove CC but also grant a small heal. So even if your adc is not rooted you may want to use it to edge out a lead in a skirmish. It is however on a 180 CD so think carefully about its expenditure.

Join us next time on 'How to be a BETTER Support' with Vel'koz. I'm Vel'koz.
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HUGE
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>Nasus' and Renektion's ults are the same

ncie game lolfetuses
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>>94514094
xth for me
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xth for our guy
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xth for love
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>>94514175
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>94514076
But if there are only gays and girls only, and you are a male, then who isn't invited?
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APPLY NOW TO BE MY VALENTINE

SPECIAL MESSAGE PICTURE AND MAYBE A GIFT GIRLS AND GAYS ONLY

>>94514126
>>94514149
u 2 have already been entered ty 4 ur interest
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>>94514175
>Vel'koz
>Not using him mid
Why
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AVARICE RUSH IS SHIT

IT'S

S H I T
H
I
T

DONT BUILD IT UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO UPGRADE TO SHIV IN THE NEXT 3 MINUTES
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>>94514197
They are brothers you know?
>same
ALMOST
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Can I get more Cromartie edits?
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Because this question keeps getting asked:

>None of the Lunar Revel skins this year are legacy
>Firecracker Jinx will be on sale for 975 RP for two (2) more days, ending on February 16th
>Dragonblade Riven (1350 RP) and Warring Kingdoms Tryndamere (975 RP) ARE Legacy and are available until February 26th
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>>94514254
how will you verify if they're girls or gay?
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GAMBIT DUO OF DOOM ONLINE
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>>94514259
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>>94514249
fake gays trans dykes blacks and jews sorry raffes/nalil

and straights that just want my special love gift

>>94514352
i can smell it i have a big nose i will not be tricked again
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I'm going to marry Kalista!
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How do I midlane, /lolg/?
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which champion do you think needs a visual update the most?
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>>94514094
>glorious evolution urgot when
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>riot will never undo the nerfs to vision and revert the re-spawn timer on jungle camps

man fuck these guys
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- How can i carry my team against all odds?
- Vayne or Lee Sin? Can they carry on their own? Which one is better for 1v5?

What is the best 1v5 champ?
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>>94512295
I actually ended up finding a sniper rifle and killing the megarobo socrpion with nothing but armor piercing rounds, was bad ass. dead money is a LOT of point A to point B. but with the added benefit that it's basically a fucking labrynth. Started big empty it at like lvl 17 or something and got to like lvl 27 by the time I was finished.'

>>94512817
it wasn't the combat so much as the walking that sucked.
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>>94514412
>galista will never fill you with her long rods

fug :DD
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>>94514412
Based.
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>>94514437
Pantheon, Malphite and Taric.
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>>94514398
jokes on you buddy, you're gunna be in love with a straight man
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>>94514412
i dont get it
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Jinx is cute
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>Leblanc died twice in 3 minutes
>Does this

YEAH RIOT EXPECT ME TO BE FRIENDLY AND POLITE TO THESE DOWN SYNDROME CUNTS
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what jungle enchant should I build on sejuani? I can't decide between juggernaut/sorc shoes and Mage/merc treads. Been considering Wota Rush
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>>94514527
>no scrying orb

fucking amateur
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>>94514508
Kalista is the walking dead
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>>94514527
get memed on shitter, learn to carry
>>94514570
wota is core, but you don't have to rush it. get mage and mercs
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>>94514432
>last hit better than your opponent
>reach level 3 and 6 before your opponent
>don't pick syndra
congrats, you can now midlane
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>>94514527
is this a cute way of saying your tears are delicious?
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>another plat promo lost
hm guess im just not good enough at picking the right 5 games.
the promos totally fullfilled their purpose though, iw as hype as fuck and it felt exciting just like a bo5 in some tournament. it was hella f*cking epic.
when my teammates were worse than theirs that was so exciting. it was really fun and anti toxic.
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>>94514437
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how to make urgot relevant?
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>>94514473
Im sorry.
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>>94514697
This is too meta for me.
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>>94514710
They just redid his textures this patch.
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>>94514710
>Back when you could still see his nose.

Damn, nostalgia hits hard.
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>>94514315
>Jesus Christ the support isn't buying wards
>I'm garen and having a bit O'crit seems ideal
>9/0/21 tf built to itemize
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>>94514718
as an urgot fan i only want more range in his E and thats all

100 units would suffice
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Reminder to max pool on Vlad second for sick cooldown reduction and many outplays.

Reminder to max W first on Varus for max % health damage.

Reminder that im the same guy who literally revolutionized the ghostblade meta and brought the double memebook into the scene.
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>>94514473
the only 1v5 champs was pre-nerf kayle/jax. I'm sorry, you've missed your chance, enjoy your stay in shit elo
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>>94514718
Revert him back to Moscow 5 era
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>>94514718
make ult instant and have range
give terror Capacitor an actual shield value
let his needle do the thing withou the gas cloud
or make the gas cloud fucking usable.i.e. duration AoE buffs
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>>94514847
Why do you want those secrets to be revealed
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>>94514560

10% crit for 800g, or 20% attack speed, 10% crit, and 5% movement speed for 1100g? Avarice Blade isn't cost effective and the gold generation isn't worth it, even if you're winning lane. You want to have the power of Zeal over the small gold income of Avarice Blade.
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>>94514847
>Reminder to max W first on Varus for max % health damage.
I should get Runaan's too right
to apply blight stacks to multiple targets?
and black cleaver and wit's end
ON-HIT VARUS fuck yeah
fits into any team comp
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>>94514613
What do you think I should rush then? I just got her yesterday and she plays like a dream. I was considering RoA or rylais
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>>94514847
double memebooks suck cocks, kill yourself
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>>94514949
>>94514949
>let his needle do the thing without the gas cloud
have you ever played urgot? that's like letting cass E without poision. Q would be the only skill he'd need.
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>>94514315
>AVARICE RUSH IS SHIT
you are shit avarice makes jewplank possible

well blow me down
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>>94514982
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>>94514979
the jungle enchant, the CDR and stats are good for the price
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>>94514967
That's why supports never build support items right?
Also, amulet coin is the best item on aram
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>>94515160
lmao you're joking right?
how can you be this bronze, anon?
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>>94515116
Sorry, yeah of course I should get the jungle enchant first. I have spellpen runes, makes me want to get rylais second but I already feel like nobody can escape me
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>>94515160
supports and aram have no gold, so gold from gold gain items is a greater percent of you total 100% gold income. in a normal game this isn't the case.
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>>94515273
yeah, you probably don't need rylia's. But liandry's is a good choice for an AP tank like sej
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>>94515329
>mord
>olaf
enjoy your win
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>>94515329
red
morde will carry
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>>94515342
liandry's is one of the worst items a tanky ap could get
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>play a game
>get some faggot with asian in his name
>he sucks just like the rest of them
>lose game

asians are a fucking disease, can we please nuke their fucking ricefields
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>>94515254
>everyone constantly fighting for cs
>casually sit back while €€€€ pours into your account
>can still buy a 1000 gold item at level 1
>when you have full build you can Max it out for fast elixirs and speed boosts
If there's a downside I haven't noticed it
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very important
http://strawpoll.me/3638017
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>>94515329

Your Vayne is gonna feed and your Gnar is going to get assfucked by Riven.

Good luck.

Leblanc also isn't going to understand how Morde works.
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>>94515329
literally a free win for you team
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>>94515374

Except everyone has forgotten how to play against them. I can already see the Gnar feeding with the level 2 all-in.
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>>94514515
danny stop masturbating to me please
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>>94515430
>Gnar is going to get assfucked
only if he is impaired
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>>94515374
>>94515379
>they believe in the morde
thanks ;_;
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>>94515412
shut the fuck up anon, I'm trying to meme build here and you're ruining the plan
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>>94515439
>gnar is top lane mord is mid
explain your logic
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>>94515160

Supports get the support items because they're not going to get gold anyway, the support items build into strong items, and they give more than just the gold generation (to which Avarice really doesn't, the crit is tiny). For a similar price to Avarice, Nomad's Medallion offers 25% health and mana regeneration, 10% movement speed, a bit of sustain, and more gold if you're in a creep wave (and you should be more often than not). Couple that with the support not needing to buy big and expensive items and the investment more than pays off.

Avarice is shit on its own and should never be rushed. The lack of combat stats in a lane where you need combat stats to at least go even (or if you're ahead, to get further ahead) is far too much of a detriment. The only champions I could see rushing Shiv or Youmuu's would be far, far better served rushing the Zeal or Brutalizer. Far more power. The tiny gold gain from Avarice will not outweigh the potential gold from a kill or bullying the enemy laner. You also won't start with it nor sit on it for a long time like supports do.
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>>94515439
>Not Riven get kited to shit
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>>94515459
ayy lmao xD sorry i will go back to reddit!
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god i hate fucking promos to the next tier so much. so fucking much. i dont give a fuck abotu anything else, i failed my promo to gold I 4-5 times i think without really noticing.
but these fucking 5 random ass games, so much pressure for no reason. such unreasonable winrate expectations for absolutely no reason.
i dont even want to play anymore after failing it twice. and if i had won it i'd just be playing random shit for fun as usual.
this system is fucking broken and does shit to people with ABSOLUTELY NO UPSIDES.
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>>94515506
sorry for interrupting your memeing
i'll let you get right back to it
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the world would be a much better place without asians niggers mexicans or muslims

why aren't we nuking their countries???
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>Haha, let's give them all adcs in nemesis and we build thornmails on the whole team, such an outplay
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>>94515492

It's solo queue.

I've seen sillier things happen.

Also Riven isn't even that bad against Gnar.

>Gnar tries to poke with his negative attack range
>Riven dashes towards him
>He jumps
>Riven uses her other three dashes
>Gnar is now at half health

Not that difficult to figure out, especially if your jungler helps you out.
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>>94515623
>>>/pol/
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LOSING STREAK BROS WW@

dropped from 99lp to 0 lp
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>>94515623
for the same reason we don't delete /mlp/, because it contains them and they'd leave if we tried
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>>94515530
If you had 800 gold on your first back would you get an avarice blade, wait around for pickaxe, cloak of many crits, boots and dorans/longsword?

Not sarcasm, genuinely curious. Let's say you're planning on building yomuus/shiv anyway
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>>94515695
stop playing retard
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>>94514503
its not love im just giving u my heart body and affection for a small amount of time it is beneficial for us both
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>>94515671
lol like i said he needs to be mentally fucked
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>>94515617
Pretty much.
The numbers are such to where you can have a win rate between 50-60% and never win your promo series. At that point you just have to hope that your MMR is high enough to skip promos.
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>>94515695
stop playing tier 5 champs like cho and jax then
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evens play ranked
odds go on date
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>>94514445
why would you want either of those things?
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so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nMTUnEJdt8&feature=youtu.be
what went wrong?
>mfw I just now realized my music got picked up by fraps
oh well, it's not very shitty music, so I'm sure no one will complain
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our guy deman casting cs:go
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>>94515617
I know that feel anon.
>Be on really good win streak
>Get to promos
>Team mates shit the bed continuously
>Lose all the games
>Win two more to get back into promos
>Same thing
>This happens for like 15 games
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>>94515727
might as well get boots and a vamp stick lol
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>>94515739
Yeah I did

Gonna go have some fun in normals and see what I can do tomorrow.

Probably gonna start maining jungle so retards won't pick Nidalee.
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>>94515805
roll
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>>94515772
sign me up then baby
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>>94515805
>tfw no gf to date today
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>>94515695
>Righteous Glory on supports
I love this meme
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>>94515530
>>94514967
Oh Wow,
Zeal is a stronger item if you can afford it.
Thanks! Great insight anon!

When pro's buy Avarice it's usually to get a good back timing & when they aren't able to afford a superior item but need to spend their gold anyway(again, without compromising back timing)

It's also acceptable in more passive lanes where you don't anticipate being punished for picking it up.
Key to all this is you obviously don't rush it. You make a decision based off of in game factors.
SOMETIMES it's the correct decision
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>>94515727

If I had 800 gold on my first back, it depends on what champion I am and what I'm building. I'm building Youmuu's? I'll get a Longsword or two and some health pots/a ward. I'm building Shiv? I'll build the Brawler's and pick up a ward and a few pots. It's unlikely I'll back for the first time with just 800g, but I wouldn't blow it all on Avarice. Especially if I don't have any pots or wards.

Avarice isn't cost effective in any way. It isn't nearly as good as it seems, and the gold generation is very tiny for what it really is. It's not like GP or TF or Ashe where the gold will stack up over the course of the game, neither Shiv nor Ghostblade retain the gold generation passive so it will stop generating gold quickly as you should finish the item quickly for the power spike. Never, ever leave the base without at least one ward and a few health pots unless you have a lot of sustain. Again, you may invest some gold into it, but the amount of potential gold you gain from being safer and healthier outweighs the gold you spent.
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>>94515617
>muh nervosity
learn to feed off the adrenaline you bab
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>>94515671
do you riven mains think that would happen against a halfway decent gnar in mini form?

>riven goes in to cs
>take auto harass up the ass
>riven decides to go trade
>gets slowed by le balanced boomerang of permaslow
>gnar jumps away
>riven blows her cds trying to reach him
>gnar harasses her up the ass with his autos while all her shit is on cd

now if you go in on gnar while hes in mega form pre-6 you'll outtrade him no matter what
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>>94515881
neat
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>hotshot will get fined

based

This is why lolg is irrelevant while reddit is the true driving force of the community
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>>94515820
pls respond
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>>94516003
>never, ever leave base without one ward and a few health pots unless you have a lot of sustain.
ign na :bladeofgondolin
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>>94516075
If this happens that faggot who gives out fines will legit be trying to bankrupt CLG.
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HHAHAAAA PINK WUKONG HOLY SHIT
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>brother calls me to invite me to his wedding
>say no and hang up
>mother calls me to wish me happy birthday
>say fuck you whore and don't call me again


i love hurting people's feelings
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>>94515820
>50 minute soraka silver shitter replay
Yeah good luck with that
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>>94516075
>implying our guy will pay if this really happens
rito can't do shit they ain't the police
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FUCK MY STOMACH HURTS FUUUUUUUUCK
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>>94516298
>silver shitter
>he thought I was even level 30
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>More people post about Hotshot's tweet when it hits the front page of reddit than when he actually tweeted it
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>>94515997

Building Avarice means that's 800g away from the far superior Zeal or Brutalizer, which is a massive chunk. Going back with 800g means you're 300g/537g away from Zeal/Brutalizer, which is definitely not ideal, but is far better than 1100g/1337g. Especially since you can also spend a bit of that gold on pots and a ward or two.

If you have to back at 800g I assume you were forced back and didn't want to leave, so you're probably going to be behind when you get back. You don't want to be further behind by investing in the 10% crit and the terrible gold generation of the item. You gain 3 gold per 10 seconds, and 2 extra gold per unit - or 12 gold per normal wave, 14 gold per siege minion wave. While that might add up if you pick it up VERY early and SIT ON IT, it will NOT add up fast enough for it to be worth the investment, since you lack sustain, vision, and definitely trading power.

The 10% crit is worth 500g. In order to make up the 300g that it lacks in efficiency, you need to kill 150 minions, wait 1000 seconds (or over 16 minutes), or a mixture of the two. That's ridiculously bad.
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>>94516308
>this desperate to become relevant again
george doesn't know what to do with his life. neither him nor his team will ever be relevant again.
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>>94516285
why are you baiting people to call u edgy?
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>>94516308

I never thought someone who paid a 6/10 asian $40,000 to be his girlfriend would talk shit about another person

But then again he is a guy who paid $40,000 for a girl to be his girlfriend so I'm not surprised.
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>>94516308
daily reminder that without Riot's retarded control of the scene we could have this trashtalk every tournament
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>>94516285
you shouldn't do that anon, it's really mean ;_;
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>>94514437

mai waifu
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OTP
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>>94516308
how does this comment warrant a fine? is there a hidden gay, black or black gay thing I can't see?
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>>94516405
did he really do that?
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>>94516419
>>94516405
>>94516396
upvote for all three of you, good pints you bring up
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strategic diversity
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>>94516449

Is that supposed to be a wedding ring/dress? Why is it on the wrong hand?
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I'm on my no death shit
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>>94514175
>I had completely forgotten zekes existed until just now
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>>94516450
I wonder what Garen's reaction to her new splash would be. I can almost imagine J4 and Xin laughing their asses off behind him as he looks at it.
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>>94514094

Reminder that we get to see the Cute Boi on stage today.
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>>94516508
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>>94515820
Everything.

Play the game, get level 30 and then ask again.

Really the grind is shit and being a noob is even worse. Actually the only way I have fun with the game is playing with competent players on both sides.
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i dont understand
why is pink wukong funny or an insult? i get that regi looks like a monkey but why pink?
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>>94516508
How are you able to function with all of that CANCER leaking outta you
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>>94516550
calculating differences
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>>94516627
>blitz
>cancer
He is an annoying cunt but hardly cancer
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Would Garen be viable if his ult did this instead?

>nice game dotards
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>>94516308

How is this not based as fuck.
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high elo lolg version when??
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>>94516625
Cause regi is a cute girl
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>>94516682
Garen's weakness lies in his inability to gap close. Not his damage or ult.
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>>94516682
Probably

Reaper's Scythe is broken as shit.
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>>94516682
>get aghs
>get refresher
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>>94516003
Besides opportunity cost of Avarice is terrible.

Just from today and yesterday I have these classical examples
>Graves buys Pickaxe and Avarice instead of BF sword for "muh gold"
>Misses out 2 kills by less than 100 hp and later dies to their now fed AD
In the end he got like 350g out of it before he upgraded which doesn't even cover the kill gold, not to mention us dying and losing preasure and CS out of that. Together with this if you ever miss a CS because you didn't buy BF or Pickaxe instead of Avarice e.g. missed by <25 hp then that gold needs to be subtracted from Avarice gains pushing back the pay off of getting it even further.

Similar case happened today where I was playing Leona with Ashe, we hit lvl 2, I all in and Ashe Vollies, there was no slow in it which meant I had to take the kill and die in the process.
Ashe traded clean first blood for what must have been something like ~20 CS worth of bonus gold.

It's much like real life money, you have 800 in cash, you could put it in the bank and cash out 1200 after 10 years or you could actually buy meaningful stocks with it and get 2k instead.
Avarice and GP10 runes and masteries are all bait in the sense that they never actually pay back because had you got stats instead you would have earned more gold out of them.

The exception to this is naturally when you are building an item that requires Avarice as it's component next on your build and can't for one reason or another buy the other components or the full item in one shot (bad base timing, out of inventory slots etc. etc.)
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>>94516609
>the only way I have fun with the game is playing with competent players on both sides.
I want there to be a game mode where two players come down from a higher rank and take kids to town. An official pub stomp
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>>94516625
The loser will have to dye their hair pink.
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>>94516682
>any kill under this effect will be credited to necrophos
what does this mean
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>>94515820

Lower your music's volume so that it's roughly the same or quieter than the game. There are a number of audio cues that you need to listen for, some of them being champion abilities, that you can hear before you can see. Plus it helps because pings will be much easier to hear so you can quickly glance at the mini map.

Ultimately, get to level 30 and broaden your champion pool. Work on BASIC mechanics like last hitting, trying to trade efficiently, and warding properly (and not excessively). Look up guides on lolking and solomid for champions you're interested in until you understand which items are good on what champion and why.

Save all of your IP until level 20 when you get access to tier 3 runes. I don't know what level you are, but you will run dry building generic rune pages like:

AD: 9 AD reds, 9 flat Armour yellows, 9 flat Magic Resist blues, 3 AD Quints
AP: 9 Magic Pen reds, 9 flat Armour yellows, 9 flat MR blues, 3 AP quints

Once you have those pages, start building more specialized rune pages, with things like armour penetration, hybrid penetration, ability power blues, etc.
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>>94514175
IS NOBODY GOING TO QUESTION THE FACT HE SAYS ZEKE'S, BUT TALKS ABOUT MIKAELS?
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>>94516930
No one reads that shit
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>>94516871
>>94516871
if you use the ult, and they're left low health and someone else kills them before it ends you get the kill instead of them
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Don't tease the Soraka :(

http://a.pomf.se/iuncfu.webm
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>>94516984
that's gay
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>>94516871
If you use Reaper's Scythe on an enemy and he dies before the actual damage is done Necro still gets the kill.

AKA if you know how to use it there is no way to prevent the increased death timer/buyback prevention.
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>>94516998

im not clicking on that virus
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>>94516871
dotards are so retarded they can't even kill someone when all you need to do is press a button on a 60% hp target so they give a window of time where if the target dies you get the kill anyway
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>Trying to last hit as an AP champ with 50 AD.
>All my minions focus on one (1) target.
What do I do?
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>>94514718
Personally I think his shift to utility late game makes him really cool, so I think if instead of a a flat 15% damage redux on his passive if it had like 5% but could stack 5 times and could get refreshed from q or aa's that would be cool and really incentivize picking someone off after you ult in
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>>94517035
the greatest meme of our generation
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>>94516768
Then what if we give him a taunt? Pic related, we could upgrade Garen's W to have a short ranged taunt.

>nice fucking game etc.

>>94516798
Yeah, fuck that ult. Use it on the biggest enemy threat and they're out of commission for years.

>>94516815
>how to turn the game into a 5v3

>>94516871
Basically if you ult an enemy and they die before the scythe executes them, Necrophos gets the kill. You can't steal his kill unless the Scythe didn't do enough damage to execute.
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>>94517035
this post is a virus
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>>94515645
>Playing Nemesis Draft to begin with
You deserve it, it's a shitty game mode that does nothing to make things fun or interesting. The problem is worsened by the fact that a lot of League heroes are just as unfun to play as they are to play against.
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>hear what the players are saying in picks or bans on brazilian scene
>everyone is talking english to communicate with the french dude
>"we should pick Kog Maw, it's good against their comp"
>"good against Ahri?"
>french guy: "just dodge her charm :^)"

Based.
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>>94516819

Avarice and gold generation runes are a relic of a long gone era, back when a lot of people would build gold per 5 items (Philosopher's Stone, Heart of Gold, Kage's Lucky Pick, Avarice Blade with the first two being very common on tops/junglers/supports and the last two being uncommon). Now that they don't exist (besides Avarice Blade) and there are far, far better gold generation items for supports, the existence of Avarice Blade and the gold generation runes are pretty terrible. People still believe they're worth the investment when they are not. You need the defence of better runes (or movement speed, which is incredible), you need better items in investment.

If the choice is between buying an Avarice Blade or saving a bit more for Brutalizer/Zeal, save a bit more.
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>>94517091

um no its not i have norton
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Not really understanding the changes they're making the Mordekaiser

If they want him to sit in a fight and do sustained damage and be tanky, sure, but isn't AP Bruiser itemization kinda garbage?
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>>94517139
the mode itself isn't even the issue
but something about this gamemode brings out the absolute worst in people
beats me
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pls vote
serious

http://strawpoll.me/3638192
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>>94515828
Fuck that, Deman is a memer fag.
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>>riot will never do an overgrowth game mode
>the lanes will never be full of trees and bushes
>riot will never have aggressive wandering spiders, bears, panthers, Hawks and dragons, buying items and leveling up as you do
>lane towers will never be overgrown and out of use
>victory would require tanking towers without any minions
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xth fpr nest ad

jinx is fun
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>>94515374
>>94515379
>>94515430
>>94515436
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>>94516983
Being as i end up going supp in my group of friends, i read it as it may suggest something i should pick up on.
Plus its not that long to read twat.
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>>94516998

Just stop healing them and they won't do it again. You're being an idiot for healing them in the first place, putting yourself and both of your teammates at risk. Don't put yourself to such a low level of HP just to keep people topped off.
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Why do I never see people rush IE on Tryndamere? I've been doing it for 2 years and I win my lane 90% of the time. All the players I see rushing bork and ghostblade does shit damage and always ends up with horrible stats. Why do people build this when ghost+IE is better in every way?
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>>94517263

because im not silver
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>>94517059
Use spells.
Try it anyway, it's not like everyone can last hit 100% of the creeps without AD.
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http://www.playerauctions.com/offer/currently-unranked-no-games-played-season-3-season-4-gold-with-131-skins-20-runepages-106172966/

is this an IDEAL asking price? I'm funding a tirp and since I no longer play League I'm deciding to hand over 3 years worth of work to someone else.
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>>94517230
Nee nee para kun
What do you think about Triforce on Vayne
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>>94517230
Your swaying Para, also stream when
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I'm done. I'm just done with yasuo. I played almost 20 games now and never won a single lane with him. Why is he doing zero fucking damage? Dashing around is doing nothing if the opponent has strong sustain or cc. I'm not faker, but this champ feels just like bullshit
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>>94517187
you're cute
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>>94517059

Throw it when you think the auto will kill it. Sometimes it's a bit higher than you'd think. It just takes a bit of practice and you should be able to reliably get those last hits.
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i just had the (dis)pleasure of playing Gragas in the new mememode

compared to this champ evelynn is top tier
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>>94517202
CLG picks garbage and wins lanes against bad teams. TSM picks broken cancer and isn't a bad team.
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>>94517364
Instead of just nerfing his w they decided to ruin his waveclear as well.
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>>94517187
i love you
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>>94517352

What are you doing?

1. Run atleast 4% crit in runes
2. Dont max E like Voyshit, max Q
3. Farm! Dont engage just farm your shiv
4. dont dash around IN the minionwave, you aggro them and you receive additional damage
5. E-Q combo ON the enemy for a 100% knockup chance.
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>>94517364
Shut up.

At least now you can clear waves with your increased slow :^)
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>>94517263

Flat out crit is better early on, Shiv is better quickly and offers more pushing power and 1v1 potential. A vamp scepter into Shiv is often a strong investment. There's also going BotRK as well for more dueling and sustain, as well as more attack speed.

You're not an ADC with the luxury of range and a frontline to be able to get bigger, slower attacks off early. You need to be able to 1v1.

>>94517352

Yasuo's been nerfed pretty hard. He's still not bad, but don't play him if your team isn't loaded with knock ups and a tanky frontline already, especially if your jungler doesn't have any. You're supposed to dash into the enemy when they go in to last hit, Q them once or twice, and dash out to dodge their shit.

You actually have to outplay the enemy now, since they can just right click the fuck out of you.
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>>94517234
based morde
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>>94517338
could get more but it'll take a time to find a buyer even if you priced it at half
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>>94517195
the mode is the problem. You have no say in what champion you get to play

Most likely going to get a boring as fuck champion because that's the fucking point of the mode. You're also going to be playing against boring as fuck champs. Nobody can really perform or excel at any normal role you normally have in SR so everyone just does random things really suboptimally and nobody has any fun.
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>>94517435

they also nerfed his W

in fact they nerfed everything about him
>500 AP gragas
>FC enemy AD carry
>it deals 1600 dmg

n i c e
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>>94517139
>it's a shitty game mode that does nothing to make things fun or interesting
He said Nemesis not Dominion
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>>94517489
same except draven and not crying
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>>94517505
Kill it before it lays eggs
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>>94517234
>>94515436
Love it how people think they can win soloq in the draft.
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>>94517345

i think its alright

i really like bork ghostblade lately

>>94517351

i can stream some later if you dont mind german gibberish
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>>94517263
What trynd needs early is attack speed. You can get ie as your second big item, but you really need greaves and shiv/pd.
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>>94516393

Every time you back your want to spend as much gold as possible in the best way possible. Gold not translated into items is meaningless.

Whenever a situations arises where you would pick up avarice you should already be assuming that a superior buy is not possible for whatever reason.
In these cases avarice MAY be a good item to pick on champions ( especially those that can not go long swords)

Once again, not being able to pick up anything with your gold is generally worse.
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>>94517687
>german gibberish
say something illegal
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>>94517473
>>94517510
Okay, but my motivation is really low to try again. I usually play safe midlaners like blue ez or orianna
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>>94517614
rin a cute
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>>94517782
>blue ez or orianna

Kill yourself. You dont even deserve to win a Yasuo game.
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>>94517263
>attack speed
>lifesteal
>AD and bonus on-hit damage which helps whittle down tanks, shred squishies and chunk healthy targets
>HP+MS drain active
>on a melee auto attack carry who can be easily kited and has low mobility

Rushing crit only works on marksmen, bro. Unlike them, melee champions actually need some method of surviving when getting assaulted by 90% of this game's ranged abilities, especially if they lack mobility. Also, attack speed synergizes well with Tryndamere because you get your free crit passive up faster and you'll get quicker access to stronger heals.
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>>94517191
Incredibly so, but don't tell Riot that.

>>94517195
I can't stand it, and I've only played with friends. On paper I figured I might get some enjoyment out of it because I like a lot of unpopular heroes (Viktor, Soraka, Mordekaiser, etc) but the reality is throwing people into a mosh pit of heroes that are terrible and unfun to pilot in the hands of people that are bad at the game, lacking in knowledge of said heroes, or both is a recipe for disaster.

>>94517590
Dominion sucks too but at least Ascension was actually enjoyable.
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>>94517781
i want to have sex with a girl so badly
every time i pass near the hooker area in my town it gets more and more tempting
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>>94516815
>play a pub
>play against a Doom and Necrophos
>both rush aghs+refresher

I wish suicide booths existed
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>>94517781

>not loving her tenderly and helping get through her sister problems

disgusting
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>>94516579
why did you people get so worked up about this kat splash?
Its no worse than her current one
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>>94516930
That's the joke anon
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Happy Valentines lolgen!

Be sure to play your waifu today so she knows you care ^_^
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>>94517857
>low mobility
>Tryndamere
oh ok
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When are esports?
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>>94517842
But I like melee vayne
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>>94516682

i love how lategame he can ult somebody and then ult somebody again before the other guy is even done respawning
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>>94517951
3PM
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post em and others try to guess your rank
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>>94517951
2 hrs 15 mins
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>>94517908
reminder that kayle > morgana
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>>94518069
Diamond II
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>>94518069
abusing cancer/10 (except TF thou)
Gold?
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>>94516508
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>Nemesis Mode

aka 10 supports every single game and some massive pieces of shit

i was actually hyped for this because the same mode in dota is really fun
but then i remembered than in dota even the shitty heroes are fun to play and that people are a bit more original than just picking the enemy team 5 supports every game

rip fun
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>>94517950
>only one (1) free flash
>in 2015
kek
have some 2hu loli
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>>94517950
>one spin every ten seconds
Oh dang

I think that if I have the money to get two parts of infinity edge, I might do it, but more likely I'll rush tiamat and avarice blade
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>>94518069
I'm guessing low plat
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>>94518159
>flash
>not dash
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>>94516508
b5
>>94518143
b5
>>94516585
b5
>>94518175
b5
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>>94515772
can I be your valentine??
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>>94518153
I was having with fun with ad alistar earlier today. The key is to outmeme the team, but sometimes it engs up really boring with a bunch of supports
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>>94516508
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>playing ranked on a saturday morning

wtf am i doing
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I pull up
It's over
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>>94518267
youre a big meanie
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>>94518153
nemesis mode is so fucking stupid it all boils down to which team got the least damage
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>>94517782
>blue ez mid
>orianna

Windy china man is not a mage, you silly fucker. Assassins and fighters have a much different playstyle, if you're used to sitting in the back while chucking fireballs and lightning bolts like the pussy you are, it's difficult to transition into the more dangerous, rewarding roles.

>>94517950
Having one gap closer when you're completely based on melee auto attacks doesn't really count as a mobile champion. Other champions like Yi, Udyr, Nocturne, etc. all come with durability, movement speed steroids, hard CC and better ways to handle getting kited. Tryndamere is built for being an annoying pile of shit in lane, and all he's good for is splitpushing. Yes, he has a slow, but I can name so many more top laners that are better in every way. Even as a duelist, Tryndamere is shit when Jax and Fiora exist. And since top lane is home to all sorts of ranged cancer, have fun getting fucked.
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>>94518164
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tiamat on trynd

I'm done.
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Are there any trans pros or casters?
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why dont you guys play nemesis?
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>>94518164
>tiamat
You're fucking joking right
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>>94518153
>build full ad on four of them
High damage autoattack champions with hard cc and no punishments for their item build crimes?
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