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Old thread: >>93975473
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1st for Formicids are best race.
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>>94349702
>You can literally sit on a floor and kill the monsters to make up for the shit apts

>spending so fucking long on a single floor is an actual pro of being a Mu because they're so shit
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>>94409103
Plus, being a scummy mummy has become drastically more shitty now that they've made it so monsters don't go to sleep anymore.

Used to be you could clear a level, then come back and wait til it was filled up again with out of depth monsters.

Now? Your rest will be broken up a million times by pissant goblins and rats invariably wandering up to you, because no matter how long you wait, the little shits won't take a nap.
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>>94409103
You actually don't have to do that as a mummy, in fact it will probably get you killed via ood spawns.

The really bad part of Mu is no quaffing conduct anyway, not shit apts. Well, and rF- is bad too.
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>>94409196
I still don't get why mummies need to be so shit. Mummies have a slightly shittier version of necromutation, and terrible stats and aptitudes. Gargoyles have a slightly better version of statue form, and okay stats and aptitudes.
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So mummy = permanent necromutation-ish
gargoyle = permanent statue form-ish
vampire = low blood bat form at will

when are we going to get a permanent tree form race?
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THE BINDING OF ISAAC IS THE KING OF ROGUELIKES
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>>94410792
You seem to have misspelled "Rogue-lite", friend.
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I haven't played DCSS in a while. Why did they decide to ruin Nemelex?
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My little girl's first act after brutally murdering some bandits was to fall down a well.

Great job, insert-name-here. Great fucking job.
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Should've used that guy's nethack pictures for the OP
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>>94395937
>I haven't read move infusions
Lolkek.
>Might
Meant heroism, gives +stats and not die until x life (more than shields.)
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>>94409260
>I still don't get why mummies need to be so shit.
Because they don't have a food clock.

MUH ELEGANT GAME DESIGN PARADIGMS
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>>94413728
I don't even get why there is a food clock. It's an annoyance more than anything else. I don't think food has caused me any kind of problem at any time.
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What are some requirements to do zigs without maxing int and without having 9th level spells?
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>>94414053
Don't be a shitter
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>you will never be a great player
>you will never be a greater player
>you will never beat crawl in under 50k turns
>you will never leave a zig on zig:27
>you will never make josephine your waifu
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>Troll monk
>find +4 ring of slaying on D:3
>find +7 ring of slaying on D:6

B A S E D
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>>94414053
Well, I explored Zigs under Trog -- keeping in mind that as I singlemindedly pumped Intelligence, my stats were not on par with a normal Trog type.

Its not impossible, but if you think you're going to just tab your way through you're dead wrong.

I found the Cloak of the Thief and the Disc of Storms insanely helpful, one for making it so you only need to fight a few monsters at a time, the other for much needed AoE.

You'll probably want to understand blowguns and their specialty ammo. A needle of frenzy against a Pandemonium Lord at the right time can be handy.

Rod of Clouds and/or Destruction could be useful.

You'll definitely want to bring some Tomb cards and a wand of digging and disintegration as well, so if you're getting overwhelmed you can face your foes one at a time.

FFS get some kind of missile repulsion/deflection too.
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How do you Mu
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>>94414612
>A needle of frenzy against a Pandemonium Lord

Huh. Needles are good even in extended? How do they work?
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>Have a good run going
>want to win for once
>save scum
>play for 5 more minutes
>delete the save and kill myself on purpose because I feel dirty

I just want to win ;_;
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>>94414739
enchant a blowgun to +9
get your throwing super high
paralyze cerebov
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>>94414739
yep, the greatest trick Cerebov ever pulled was convincing the world demons are immune to special needles

They're immune to poison, but not to frenzy/sleep/paralyze/confuzzle.
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>>94414809
>>94415507

Oh wow. That's pretty cool. I will have to try it out.

What are the odds of paralysing brimstone fiends etc?
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>>94415803
Depends on how high your throwing is and your blowgun is, and I believe shooting them when they have a ? over their head enhances it.

>All needle types except "poisoned" were introduced in version 0.6. There's a saving throw for monsters: if 1 + 1d(4 + your throwing skill + your blowgun’s to-hit enchantment) is greater than the monster’s hit dice, the effect will be applied. You also have a straight 2% chance of succeeding for monsters with a hit dice of 14 or below.

>Some statistics: with no skill you’re still at 100% to succeed on HD1 or HD2 (gnoll, D1 monsters), 75% on HD3 (Sigmund), 50% on HD4 (Duvessa), and 25% on HD5 (ogre). With 4 skill as an early Assassin, you’re up to 56% on an Ogre, or 33% on a Yak.

A brimstone fiend has 18 hd, so with a +9 blowgun, that's already a max roll of 14. Need throwing 5 to have a tiny chance, and I'd wager about (not feeling like doing the math) a skill of 15 would make it happen more often than not.
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>>94416336

Huh.

Thank you for that.
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>>94416410
Anytime. I pew pew a lot so I don't pay the best attention to such things.

Rods of inacc are also great (think of them as a ranged stab weapon)
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>>94416336
With zero skill you have 1+1d(4+9) namely 2-14.
5 to have a 6(aprox)% chance.
41% with 15 skill (1+1d29 it's a range of 2 to 30 vs 18 so 12 times out of 30 you'd get it (to simplify this do 17 vs 1 to 29).
or 23 in 40 at max skill or about 51% because lolnobell.

General outline of math.
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>>94416806
Ah ok, was off by 10%, but that was just eyeballing it.
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>>94413965
Food was slightly more challenging when they still had nausea.
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>>94416901
I could have done the math wrong, but mostly the % is because the game has no bell curve for some reason
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>>94413965
You gobble down a lot of food in the crypt and tomb as a caster, and when the minolab shows up, or certain other bonus vaults, you'd better hope to have enough permafood on you to handle it.

Also some chars suffer worse than others. For example, deep dhorfs have okay int and aptitudes, but horrible spellcasting aptitudes.
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>>94417112
No I mean I was off by 10% in guessing that 15 skill, +9 blowgun meant 51%, when in reality it just means 41%.
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>>94417192
>>94413965
Also, it can cost you a turn when doing a series of heavy casts.
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Without a food clock, how would you know you're playing a roguelike?
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>>94414612
Wouldn't axes be better for aoe than discs of storm at this point? Also how useful are evocables that summon shit in there, elemental, horn, rod of shadows tc.
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>>94417601
It is turnbased and there are enemy mans you can walk into who drop itam. Also you can't load saves after u ded
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>>94417745
B-but, muh grid!
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>>94417701
>Rod of shadows

Does anyone even use this? It's so shit imo.
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>>94417601
I just wish fucking everything didn't make you more hungry for no reason.

Spell and rod hunger is some serious jew shit. I don't even know how, but I bet the israelites did this.
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Is eating a whole ham a free action?
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>>94417837
It gave me things like elemental giants, tough dragons and stuff of similar strength, was pretty good.
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>>94417701
>Wouldn't axes be better for aoe than discs of storm at this point?

We're still talking about what to do in a non int focused Ziggurat/extended endgame char's case, right? You unquestionably want a wide variety of attacks. I only left a few levels later after I posted that pic, but there were times I was so heavily surrounded by enemies (and no, I didn't just rush in blindly) that I needed to dump a billion ball lightnings point blank with the disc.

Axes are definitely good but throwing and various evoc are definitely heavily encouraged. Zigs are crazy.
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Autism guy here.

I made a pile of 500 blessed towels, because Nethack does not have a bed, and I figure my character might need a comfortable place to sleep after 470,000 turns. That's 40 days of being awake!
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High evoc rods of clouds are nice: Acid, Thunderstorms, or Negative Energy are quite potent. I'm carrying two, just in case, I don't know, I get ambushed by a bunch of Goast Moths.
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>>94420893
>500 blessed towels
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>>94424370
A pile of towels is pretty comfy to lie on.
The only question is how many.
A towel has weight 2, and a person's body has weight 1450. That means that roughly ~20 units of weight is 1 kilogram, so these towels weigh 100 grams each. Those are small kitchen towels.
In order to get a comfortable enough amount of them to lay on, I figured making them roughly as heavy as a bed would work - so 200 towels, or 20kg, would be not enough. But 500 towels, or 50kg would be enough.

It's a shame I genocided gremlins because FUCK summon nasties taking away intrinsics, otherwise I could remove my sleep resistance, put on an amulet of restful sleep, alchemise / farm up 500 potions of sleep, curse them, burn elbereth, pen myself into a small area with a bunch of orange dragons, and queue up craptons of turns of sleep on my comfy pile of towels.
In fact, next game I think that'll be my conduct for the game. Sleep for at least 100,000 turns on a comfy pile of 500 blessed towels.
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>Make TRJ spawn jellies on a failed poly (|amethyst)

Good one devs.
>Rather than fix the spikeness of acid damage (even with rCorr), stop players using a tactic

How the fuck are you supposed to kill trj now?
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>>94426642
normally, instead of exploiting bloat mechanics?
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>>94426642
resistmighthastetab

I never even bothered to poly TRJ
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>>94426642
I cleared the rest of the level first, then lured her into the stone corridors near the rune (so less monsters would be adjacent to me at one time), and bashed her face in.
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>>94414687
roll MuFE of sif, find ring of fire (enhance spells while removing rF+), spam aa, win game
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What are you guys feelings on ambrosia potions? Do they have their uses?
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>>94426642
how in the fuck do you have rmut and rcorr, but aren't ready to fight TRJ? are you some kind of kweerboi?
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>>94426642
spam torment + immolate summons then detonate
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>>94429087
very, they replenish you surprisingly fast and only last a few rounds
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>>94429839
I accidentally my weapon to an orc.

Help
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>>94434112
That orc will go on to lead a Waaagh across the galaxy.

Great fucking job, hero.
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>>94429087
Ambrosia with Zind Sanctuary ability is almost broken.

>Far into end game
>Healing wands
>multiple 27s etc
>Go into a zig
>get to zig 25
>full of demonlords, Torment spam and hellfire
>Begin reciting
>demons that dont instantaneously die push my shit in
>use sanctuary
>drink ambrosia
>Hit 's' until your hp is full
>your breath is back
>Youre still in the sanctuary
>You can recite within the sanctuary
>recite kills demons
>...even though youre not allowed to attack while in the sanctuary
>LoS super nuke on demons with absolute defense from sanctuary with the ability to super regen

Ambrosia + Zin = GG
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>>94434857
>>...even though youre not allowed to attack while in the sanctuary
You aren't attacking them. Zin does.
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>>94434112
How could you be such a fucking silly goose, go push into a cloud of flame to get your weapon back.
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>>94414450
>you will never leave a zig on zig:27

this is actually much easier than people make it out to be if you're a caster. I cleared a Zig before I ever managed to win the game.

I just spammed Shatter until everything was dead. Worked on every floor except the Jelly floors where I spammed Evocables and ran around like a little bitch.
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What's the best and/or most fun class for cutting niggas with mindstars?
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>>94443813
Clearly None
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>>94426642
Oh, that isn't mentioning the part they plan on implementing tomorrow.

Making TRJ continue to spawn jellies AFTER being polymorphed.

So you got lucky enough for it to turn into a Titan? Congrats, now it's a titan that makes acid blobs whenever you hit it.

An alternate proposal would, in the above scenario, result in a titan that makes more titans whenever you hit it.
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>>94444232
>An alternate proposal would, in the above scenario, result in a titan that makes more titans whenever you hit it.
This is amazing and will make Crawl a much better game.
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How can you make a Samurai in Crawl?
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>>94444232
>An alternate proposal would, in the above scenario, result in a titan that makes more titans whenever you hit it.
Make it happen.
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>>94444513
high elves are japanese, okawaru is japanese god of honor and battle, max long blades, find autumn katana, commit suicide if you break any conducts
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Hmm
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>>94445470
Thanks anon
On it now
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>>94444444
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>>94445730
>no gets on /vg/
for what purpose
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Thus begins the journey of Octomonk, the staff weilding octopus, with a hat.
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>Cerebov is now magic immune
RIP being able to banish him with Lugonu's Banishment invocation.

On the bright side, greater mummies are no longer MR immune, so you can discord them and turn Tomb 3 against itself
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>try to play nightmare wyrmic
>die to summoned war hound on second level of starting zone
My instincts tell me life shouldn't be so horrible.
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>>94446912
>gnagas no longer magic immune
RIP

>Eye of draining, shining eye, eye of devastation, golden eye
I had literally no idea they were magic immune.
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>>94445649
A wish well spent.
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>>94446910
And i died to Duvesa
RIP in takoyaki
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How do you keep monks in DCSS alive? I imagine you start picking up spells, but what if you can't find any useful books?
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>>94449572
Same way you keep other melee backgrounds alive.
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>>94449572
You level up UC, Fighting, Dodging and punch things.
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>last thread had a guy from /pol/ terraforming nethack for one year
>also a Felid and octopode of chei
>posts a fucking Elona win

You know who you are
Fucking scum of the earth
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>>94450390
Not just Elona
A 0 score, therefore cheating easy mode only 1 year win
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>>94450390
>>last thread had a guy from /pol/ terraforming nethack for one year
That other guy wanted to make a collage of it but he never showed up. When he does, I will put it in the OP, or let him do it.

And Fe^Chei isn't that impressive, I've done it as well.
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>>94450780
Elona wins aren't impressive either. Might as well post a DDA "win".
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>>94450390
Could have been worse. Could have been tome.
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>>94450643
that I'd like to add, was never posted in the thread before

I say we spit on this false idol
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>>94451142
People like seeing their first wins. If DDA had a win condition I would post such wins as well.
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>>94451363
they're both equally shit. Most important, elona has its own general.
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>>94451404
Anon.
We got the fucking king of nethack in the thread and you post the DCSS wquivalent of a 3 rune MiBe.

I am ashamed for you.

>>94420893
Lord,forgive him, for he does not know what he's done
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>>94451642
I'm consistent, and that's all.
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>>94450643
Overdose mode is the best way to play Elona, though.
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I appreciate your work, OP-kun. Ganbatte.

Autismlord deserves a proper collage like that one anon promised.
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>>94452218
just a heads-up I'm the one that promised it and I can't do it
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>>94452315
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>>94452481
okay fine fine
I can spare five minutes
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Decided to finally try out this Ru dude. An excuse to play another naga!

I'm not sure if I like him in early game - you sac a lot of stuff and get that aura that sometimes does something. Then you get jump and it's... I used it twice and I think it was pretty bad but I've only used it twice (it's moves you closer to enemy AND disables your other Ru abilities (which are better) so it just never felt like a good time to use it). Apocalypse is super-strong but the drain is severe; that said, I used it as soon as I got it and was at dark red drain in Lair. But I've gotten to Lair so it didn't matter and then I won.

Sacced skills, love (who needs friends anyway), experience, Armour skill (I thought "durability" is HP and pressed YES before reading, but I've gotten robe of Night soon after that so whatever), and scrolls - the latter was even somewhat relevant (I did some Zig levels and at one point I realized I can't recharge my /heal wounds because to do so I need to read a scroll and I was threatened by things around and it just didn't work). Tried Apocalypse at lords - paralyzed Gloorxie, Mnoleg, Dispater, slowed Lom and Asmodeus, hit Cerebov with anti-magic, damaged Eresh. Did nothing to Anta, but my aura blinded or confused him a couple of turns after that, still neat. Also paralyzed a bunch of oofs in Zot.

Overall, I am not sure I like Ru. I think his saccing and "piety" mechanics are good, but the abilities are bland (permaRecite-but-better, one turn Recite-but-even-betterer, heals and some weird jump). I don't have any good ideas how to improve this, though.

Also, I just wanted to get 3 runes but V:5 had cloak of fog so I sort of felt obliged to do postend.
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Jiyva is best god
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Autismlord, were you also responsible for that Mine Town in Elona?
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post your roguelike folder
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Guess I might as well just tape down my tab button at this point.
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It's never five minutes.
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>>94455961
>2 points in MR
>no resistances

HALT
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>>94456487
>shit cloak and no hat

I'll get there m80
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>>94456418
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>>94456418
Beautiful.
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Zap
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>>94429696
Only correct answer, and a lvl 1 character can do it
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>>94458715
What's that, unnethack?
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>>94434524
>>94435172

Goodbye Milork.

You will be remembered as the guy who got to wield something decent for once
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>>94459341
Aaand... forgot pic
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>>94459216
Dynahack.
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>>94456418
>beyond autism levels of dedication
>enlightens people about the truth of jews and the banks

A true hero.
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>>94459502
>>94459341
Worst Jesus.
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>>94459932
Dyna has a persistent inventory.
That's not dyna.
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>>94456418
Thank you anon.
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Hey DCSSfriends, I'm on a run right now and I just finished Lair. I swear I found the entrance to the Orc Mines before I found Lair, but I backtracked to like Dungeon 4 and couldn't find the Mines. Do they despawn if you enter another branch, and then spawn elsewhere? Lair was on floor 10, I'm pretty sure the mines were on floor 9. I'm continuing down the dungeon right now but I really need to hit mines...
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>>94460483
If you press shift+G you get a list of all locations you've discovered and can choose to auto-travel to them

And no, entrances never disappear. They can close if they're temporary (sewers, ice caves, bazaars, etc) but the game will tell you if that happens ("you hear the slow/fast rusting of a distant drain" and things like that)
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>>94460483
Nvm, just found it, it was on 12. Guess it can relocate, or I was getting confused with another run.
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>>94460780
>guess it can relocate
It can't, you just forgot its location
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>>94460716
>>94460780
Well, entrances do dissapear if they turn out to be mimics.
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>>94460716
... Oh shit. That's useful as fuck. Thanks anon
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>>94460913
They're not entrances then though. Unless he discovered the entrance by magic map and never cheked it out for himself, he'd have noticed it's a mimic
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>>94461046
Crawl has quite a lot of useful shit like this.

Try Ctrl+F (item)

Try pressing shift+(item you want letter) in a shop and then press $. Voila, shopping list for things you want to buy eventually
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This is not very fair.

Tried a VSSu and died to a trapdoor spider, back to Nagas!
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>>94462762
Well would you just look at this.
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>>94462941
it's the best armor for a naga. When shit hits the fan you can just ru-ahahahahaha.
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>>94463101
Hey, I've won a coffinnaga once! With Fedhas, though.

And with 30 AC I will be untouchable at least until I finish Lair. And hopefully, later Nem will provide.
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Hooray.
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1 point in Evocations. Plain deck of destruction. Storm card. Nemelex status: ruineOH WAIT
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>>94463828
Heh.
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>>94464002
Congrats!
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>>94464002
Rock on.
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As a sneaky vampire, should I go for +3 Vamp rapier or +2 Elec dagger?
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>>94461090
You have to get pretty much right on top of it for it to show itself if it's a mimic. Until you do, it will show as an entrance in all the various listings.
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If only Nemelex wasn't nerfed to the point of irrelevance, I would survive that encounter.
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First win as a caster with a Bearkin Ice Elementalist of Yred! Bearkin get stupid amounts of HP thanks to innate robust 3, and their aptitudes for magic are pretty decent. Only things keeping me from getting more than 6 runes were not switching from Yred and not finding Glaciate. Hoping Bearkin get added into the stable version in the near future.
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>>94468194
I'd go for +2 Elec dagger if you have enough stealth to reliably sneak up on enemies, but you should to switch to the rapier once the dagger stops being effective.
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RIP Nemelex

we hardly knew ye
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>>94471941
Yes we get it, you still think nem is gud
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>>94469448
>>94471941
The Nemelex complaints were pretty much bait anyway, were they not?
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>>94472012
What? No, I'm not dumb or some kind of dev cocksucker! I'm posting the irrefutable proofs of Nemelex being completely destroyed!

>>94472112
I think the piety gain was lower in initial commit, maybe? Oh, and they merged all combat decks in one - that was not very popular and was reverted. Then you get people who believed the strength of Nem was trying to get wonders ASAP in hopes for XP card...
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>>94472307
I don't think they changed the piety gain outside of making it based on exploring, but the latest round of changes have been an improvement. I think having all the combat decks in one was a bit too unreliable but its better than playing dungeon maid.
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>>94472307
Fuck off back to the tavern.
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Yo, niggas. I've been out of the loop since I did the Kenshiro win.
Is there something I should know they ruined before I start playing again?
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>>94477408
what version did you play last?
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How do I enjoy DCSS? It doesn't seem bad, but the combat is pretty much nothing it seems and the magic I've tried so far (other than transmuting my lizard into having horns over and over I guess) was pretty boring. I've only gotten to about the 7th floor before I die to something so I haven't seen much
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>>94478746
>the combat is pretty much nothing
You bump into enemies, what more do you want here
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>>94478839
I've been playing a lot of Cata but wanted to move off it, been thinking of getting back into making new forts in dwarf fort.

Cata is no dwarf fort combat obviously, but it still felt better than what's in DCSS. I just sit here and when I'm in a hallway I hold down a direction onto I fly out the other side because fuck precision.
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>>94478168
I don't even remember.
.15, maybe.

I had the winning screen, but now I'm probably not gonna see it again.
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Is the item cursing tree worthwhile for a Doomed?

I don't remember being impressed by it when I tried Cursed, and I read it's melee-oriented, but maybe I'm missing something.
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>finally take a trog fighter gargoyle to mid game
>find an orc camp or something
>manage to murder everything, potions running low however
>get killed by wargs when exploring the rest of the level

I don't feel like playing this game anymore, I'm too shit
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>>94478746
Combat is all there is to crawl, and crawl's combat is mediocre.

Play Sil if you want good roguelike combat, or play something like nethack if you want more weird interactivity
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>>94480056
they ruined elyvilon
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http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=8d6611c9f7808195eae491010b38b9a227a0ea46

So now if you successfully poly the Royal Jelly, it spits out as many jellies as it would have if you managed to 1-shot it (via stabbing it for instance)

Still probably better than killing it directly
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How is Rogue Survivor?
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Getting back into RLs. Downloaded a bunch and have already played some Infra Arcana. Should be a fun night.
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>>94491192
Short and fun.
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>tfw no 3DS Powder port with 32x32 tileset support

it hurts
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gonna try a zig for the first time. once i ascend this character would be my third win. was planning on finishing zot and then going for it.
can anyone offer some advice for clearing zigs? or is it just a bad idea?
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As a primary blade hands user, do I want a shield or is the offhand damage better?
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>>94493176
Blade hands melds shields.
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>>94492505
Shatter deals 1/3 damage to flying creatures, and a lot of scary creatures fly in zigs. If you want to try, you might want to get Fire Storm first, and a way to replenish mana quickly.
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>>94491192
Utter shit.
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>>94470635
My only real complaint about bearkin that really pisses me off is that you start as a normal sized creature and then as you level up to a certain level you become a "large" creature, so when I played bearkin I went fighter and used a shield and a sword, then found some plate mail, some time around lair my plate mail suddenly falls off and all my points in armour were just completely wasted...
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Anyone playing sunless sea?

It's fucking slow as shit and I died today after like 5 hours of playing and 10 ports visited in a row ;_;
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Anyone playing not a roguelike?
It's fucking not a roguelike as shit and I not a roguelike after 5 hours of not a roguelike and 10 not a roguelike in a row.
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TIL complaining about posts is a roguelike. Either that or someone complained about a post not being about roguelikes with their own not-at-all-about-roguelikes post. And that's just preposterous.
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>>94496728
How scandalous
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Anyone played Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead? I'm looking through the character creation. I love how I could make a character with an addictive personality with schizophrenia and insomnia!

Is the game itself any good though?
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this satisfies me greatly
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>>94491302
it's also completely fucking dead

>>94479248
> making a new DF fort
but anon, an update could happen very soon! your time would be wasted and you'd have to start a new fort!
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and so does this
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>>94497092
>not 22 22 22 22
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>>94497183
these are always beautiful.
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>>94497107
>next update will have DORF METAL BANDS
I can't wait to become a traveling musician and slaughter the whole civilizations with my leather flute.
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>>94497746
>dorf metal bands
dude, what
what
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>>94497782
Instead of "breaks" the dwarves will gather in taverns, play musical instruments and dance.
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>>94498107
That. Is. AWESOME.
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Which version of Crawl are you playing /rlg/?
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>>94456418
Lol wut my posts got screencapped
Why
I'm just a dude playing nethack
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>>94478746
Melee combat is pretty straightforward, complexity comes more from resource management and positioning than how you hit things like in DF

Spells get more interesting as you go on, D:7 is not really indicative of how nice it can get.

If you want to try a melee build with a bit more to it try Skald. You play it as a regular melee dude who sings and enhances itself in battle.
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Hmm
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>>94498381
you are a god among men, anon.
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>>94453947
>The butterfly can only feel hate for you
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>>94498448
>sourcediving
sage please
what are you trying to look at anyway
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>>94498516
Looking at the strings in an old svg to see if there's anything fun.
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>>94456418
Fuck did I say black mold
I meant brown mold
Crap
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>>94497039
It isn't your traditional roguelike in the sense that it isn't a dungeon crawl, it's a randomly generated world, and there's no clear cut goal. But I definitely like it more than most roguelikes. Creating rp characters like an overweight detective with a bad back, or a schizophrenic and psychotic escaped convict is a ton of fun.
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>>94499143
Go invisible
Mass confusion
blink
DO SOMETHING
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>>94500685
He's got it sorted, he poisoned the orb weavers and is near the up stairs. All he needs to do is strafe the orbs and wait for niggas to drop.
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>The orbs collide in a blinding explosion!
I learned something today
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>>94501318
For bonus points, kill Boris with his own orb.
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If I search for something using CTRL-F, find it and travel to it. Is there an easy way to continue traveling when stupid shit like being hungry stops you even 5 steps?
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Is Darkest Dungeon a roguelike?
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BANE?
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>>94499143
The poison icons look like the sweat drop cliche you often see in Vietnamese cavepaintings.
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>>94502821
CTRL-G, enter
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>>94503186
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>>94503186
YOU'RE A FIXED ART
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>>94503448
Thanks, broski
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Are Tengu worth playing or they are just worse Gargoyles,?
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>>94503856
FOR YOU
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>>94503915
They really aren't like gargoyles at all.

They're good once they can fly for perma-swiftness
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>>94503506
Tell me about @.
Why does he wear the [?
Lotta loyalty for a $'d )
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would F a man before t him out of a %?
No-one cared who I was before I picked up the "
If I R that off, will you want your possessions identified?
It would be extremely Ouch!
You're MZ_LARGE
For you.
Was being fought part of your plan?
Of cockatrice.
Well congratulations! You got yourself fought! Now what's the next step in you are turning to stone?
... Oops. Suddenly, the dungeon collapses with no survivors. -more-
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>>94504028
>no one cared who I was before I picked up the amulet
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>>94504169
Are they represented by a different glyph in stone soup?
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>>94504028
God damnit
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Hey /rlg/.

I'm trying to get a char with the ULTIMATE MUTATION SET, just for fun, in the extended endgame.

I've noticed Jiyva is very stingy with his mutations and tends to take the good ones away as fast as he gives them. I've accumulated a large stack of benmut and decks of change.

Here's the question: if I get a bunch of Jiyva mutations at, say, level 1 (because they tend to disappear too fast to get to level 2-3) and leave him, can I use Helix cards and !benmut to add to levels of them?

Same question, but I stay with him for now and DON'T let any slimes eat items -- can the Helix card and !benmut add to the Jiyva mutations?
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>>94499763
I think I'll stick with it. Seems worth the time once you get the hang of it. Thanks
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>tfw lost what should have been my first DCSS win because I got impatient

I want to die
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>>94505105
Helix cards and !bmut will not add to the unique Jiyva mutations.
If Jiyva gives you mutations that could be acquired from drinking !mut, then they can add to those, but not special mutations.
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>>94505436
Ouchy. The high level Jiyva mutations seem impossible to get.
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As a stabber, should I slowly transition towards a caster in late game?
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>>94505995
Hexes and summoning or translocations are virtually obligatory for stabbers.

The tentacle spell and/or singularity make it so easy to get stab attacks.
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>>94505105
Go Demonspawn Monk of Xom
Quaff every mutation potion until you have 10 good mutations
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What would be a build who doesn't either rely on Tornado Shatter Firestorm or Trog at end game?
I am clueless here
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>>94507386
let's try again

(Anything)Fi of Oka.
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>>94507386
Okawaru Fighter with a big fuckoff axe.
TSO Fighter with a big fuckoff mace.
Dimethenos Stabber with a tiny but nonetheless fuckoff short sword
Qazlal anything with his big fuckoff invocations
Summoners
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>>94507561
Vampire/Spriggan Stabber.
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>>94507386
VS of Ash
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>>94507171
Oh, I have a giant stack of change and wonder decks, normal mutations aren't the issue, just trying to figure out if there's an easier way to get slime gawd mutations at a good rating, evidently not.

>>94507386
Use Glaciate and Singularity.
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Cataclysm is super neat but my dudes always, without fail, end up shot to death by turrets.
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>>94508005
I have been seeing VS of Ash lately, what is the catch
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>join Jivya
>his first two actions are to remove my repulsion field and 2 +Dex muts

thanks a lot you slimy fuck
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>>94510187
>Joining jiyva instead of Xom
you asked for it
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>>94510148
VS are good but have shit apts
Ash boosts skills
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>>94510121
The most humorous DDA death I've had, was being shot by a shit house turret. It was from one of those weird angles out of LOS that kept me from seeing it and thus leaving safe mode.

It raises a lot of questions, too. Who would place a turret in a restroom? Of what possible benefit would this be to anyone?
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>>94510246
>>94510187
Jiyva mutations are hella good (seriously, reactive disarm, reactive confusion, and missile absorption are fucking insane), at the cost of you mostly never getting them and at the cost of probably removing all your good mutations.
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>>94510350
4chan would place a turret in a restroom and the turret would either launch condoms, or launch feces.
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>>94510350
I dunno, some fucking doctor had 2 turrets in his office lobby.
Not to mention this one time I met a chicken walker in the middle of a "town" consisting of 3 houses and a liquor store.
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>>94510634
Still more of a town than you'd find in Skyrim.
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>>94510634
>3 houses and a liquor store
Hey, I've driven through towns like that!
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>>94510658
I saw it more as a rest stop or something.
Some of the towns are pretty big.
And the walker was one of those random event things I think,there were barbed wire barricades around it and zombie soldiers.
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>>94510283
VS are good but the shit apts is not bad
the bad part is shit HP and no heal sources

Ely or Makh are the best VS gods
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>>94510949
So how about a VS Gladiator of Makh?
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>>94511845
that's what I always roll before I get bored and kill my character
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>>94512195
>making your inventory invisible
as expected from such a skilled player!
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Nethack terraformer here. Figured I'd post my inventory.
Here is my main inventory.
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>>94512195
>>94512337

Anon pls
I can't add more stuff, 5000x5000 is the highest resolution 4chan can support
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>>94512337
Here's the contents of the icebox named main.

The bag of holding named antigold contains roughly negative 1.7 billion gold pieces.

>>94512427
You do not need to add more stuff. To be honest I don't think it really merits adding anyway, given that this is the same stuff anyone would get if they pudding farmed.
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>>94510634
Yeah, after I got shot by turrets for daring to exit the wrong side of a police station, I snuck around a bar and OH HEY CHICKEN WALKER.

Fuuuuuck.

At least I could run away from the Triffid Queen I found.
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>>94512498
you know what you must do now
put that bag of antigold into a bag of holding with gold in it
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>>94512498
The screenshot is of some of my took-longest-to-farm items from my stashes.

Here is the album of my stash
http://imgur.com/a/wKaDO
And here is the album of the stuff I will use to consecrate the valley of the dead
http://imgur.com/a/wciIJ
I've got almost everything, but the wands of undead turning a proving a pain in the ass.

>>94512872
Nethack antigold and gold cancel each-other out, but do not produce any useful explosions. The most powerful explosions you get in nethack are by trying to charge a wand and having it explode.
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Nethautist, what do you think of Dynahack? It removes pudding farming ( and makes farming a lot harder) and adds a lot of things.
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>>94513036
Screenshot of wands of wishing and gems

>>94513173
Haven't played it, lemme check changes
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>>94513308
you know that if you ascended with that on NAO you'd probably break every single highscore nethack has ever seen?
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>>94513425
Incorrect. NAO has multiple maxscore ascensions.
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