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Banana Edition

SPOILERS AHEAD

PREVIOUS >>87789381

>http://pastebin.com/JWkm9Eap
Our pastebin is back.

>http://www.dragonagekeep.com
You use this website for saves, choices, importing and everything.
And no, it doesnt matter if you own the previous games or not, you just need to own the DA:I and an Origin account for it to work.

>SKILL TREES:
ROGUE: http://imgur.com/a/JrteW
WARRIOR: http://imgur.com/a/Y7lH5
MAGE: http://imgur.com/a/HV4lX

>Explanation on how spell/skill combos work:
http://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/2ni6wd/psa_quick_primer_on_combos/
(VERY USEFUL)

>Maps of the locations:
http://imgur.com/a/BV1LR

>>>/DAG/ FAQ:
>Crack when?
Never

>Mods when?
DA:I isn't very mod-friendly.

>Where is my warden?
I hope you like letters :^)

>Why is this game so boring? Its all fetch quests and irrelevant stuff.
Let me guess, you're in the Hinterlands.
Optional stuff is optional, you're making it boring yourself. You can go back to any discovered location at any time, go do the story missions or unlock different areas. The game doesnt even truly begin until you reach the Skyhold.
http://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/2mw0iz/psa_leave_the_fucking_hinterlands/

>What's "moste"?
It's an old meme from /meg/.
It means a character who loves your player character most.
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loved you leaste
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What's the console command for 60fps cutscenes?
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Nth for best girl
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>>87804202
lies
what we had was real, he told me
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FIRST FOR SOLAS IS DRED WOLF
BLACKWALL IS NOT A WARDEN
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nth for best bro
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/dag/, I need your wisdom.
In terms of how romantic and/or in depth it is, between Solas and Dorian, who has the better romance?


I haven't gotten very far, so I'm not sure, but people keep implying Solas is really important to the plot, so I don't know if that would make his romance better or if it's unaffected.

Also, do you actually have sex with Solas? He doesn't seem like the sex type to me.
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>>87804281
Yeah yeah and TopLel survives getting murderhobo'd
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First for actual Disney Prince Cullen
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>>87804315
Well, if your playing anything but Mistress Lavellan you will not be romancing Solas. If you are playing the Lady of the Dales, or any lady, you wont be romancing Dorian.
Besides, Cullen is the objective best
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So what's the best crafting materiel and what are the best schematics? I'm tired of making things that end up being shit right away
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>>87804315
Solas is the most interesting one. But no sex scene. Implied sex is there, just no actual boning scene. Dorian is a pretty standard Bioware romance.
>These are my issues
>Thanks for helping me deal with my issues
>Here's sex
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>>87804392
Dragon Bonners
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>>87804315
go for mcnuggies, you know you want to
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>>87804392
Dragon mats, duh.
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Is there a pint in picking Artificer if you're not playing archer rogue?
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>>87804315
solas is female exclusive, dorian male, so if you already started you don't have much of a choice.

it's implied you have sex with solas, but it isn't shown.

I dislike dorian's romance and character because it's too focused on gayness, there's just more interested stories to tell in a world of magic and dragons than my dad hates me because I'm gay, I'm so opressed. like solas' story, now there's taking the full advantages of the universe you set up.
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fucking tank ai in this game so rage inducing
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>>87804392
tier 3 schematics and dragon materials, tier 3 hidden blades for masterwork
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>>87804484
>i'm oppressed
>my family owns slaves
Don't forget that part
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>>87804484
said it better than I could have. Dorian is a good bro to have though
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>>87804541
I'm level 23. I've completed whole game on Nightmare, all areas are fully explored. And I still carry weapons level 13,18. Where did you get that unique?
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>>87804541
>lewd agile ravager
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>>87804678
it was reforged from some shards of an ancient elven blade I collected in some elven temple that was opened after I studied some runes I found in another zone, took like 2 or 3 wartable missions to get the zone unlocked
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Which has a more fulfilling storyline, siding with the mages or the Templars?

I met up with the mages in Redcliffe and it's tempting to fuck with someone from the Tevinter Empire but I don't want miss siding with the Templars if their mission is more interesting.
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>>87804559
I know, it's a fucking joke

he has it so great, he's not even forbidden from being gay and acting on it for the most part. he could've married a woman, stuck it in her a few times till she gets pregnant, and live out his gayness otherwise. it's not ideal obviously, but it's no worse than what most people in thedas have to go through. I mean, brosca's sister in origins had to whore for a living, city elf origin has the first wedding night rape story, isabela was sold into marriage, fenris was raped, zevran was groomed to fuck people amongs other things, is this really the tragic fate that deserves our attention?
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>>87804484
>>87804559
lmao he never said he was oppressed
he said he has a shit dad which is true
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http://elfyourmother.tumblr.com/post/103975602906/more-a-couple-things-that-are-bugging-me-about
Well, if she played the game she would understand that TopLel says the Ferelden Wardens go missing and that's what prompts her to find out that the Orlesians have as well.

Why do I feel pity for EYM?
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>>87804792
The mage's story line was unusual, but in the end I preferred the templars. Also had the best boss.
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>>87804792
Templars, bring Calpernia back to the light.

Although pic related was pretty cool
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>>87804678
the quest chain for it start near Drakon tower by the rift closest to the cliff it's a small camp there are two, it's left of the one that's closest to the tower in Lion snow zone

looks amazing too with glowing runes
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>>87804992
>Not having Cass wield Certainty with a corrupting rune as part of the sophisticated metagame

U mad Meredith, u templar fucking shit?
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>that armored avvar war mount
Awesome.
I also saw a pic on /dag/ of someone's elf grl inquisitor wearing armor that looked like a palette swap of Merill's armor. Where to get?
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Cadash is truly the best Inquisitor.
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>i have a fan club on 4chan that likes to get turnt from time to time

>it’s p. hilarious

SHE KNOWS
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>>87805087
from the same "dog" vendor in hissing wastes canyon that you get all the high level goodies
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>>87805171
>fan club

AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>87805172
Thanks!
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>>87805172
That robe looks terrible, darling.
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Cole: I didn't know there were spirits of wisdom.
Solas: There are few. Spirits form as a reflection of this world and its passions. We will never lack for spirits of rage, or hunger, or desire. The world gives them plenty to mirror.
Cole: Yes.
Solas: The gentler spirits are far more rare. We can ill afford the loss of even one spirit of wisdom, or faith... or compassion.
Cole: I will try not to die.
Solas: Do that, please.

Why is Cole the best party member?
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>loved you the moste
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I'm not very far into my Dalish Mage femquizzy. Should I reroll as a DW? Also, is Treveleyan mage borne from a circle or apostasy? Is Qunari mage as stupid as I imagine?
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>>87805172
is it not a mage robe or did you just made it with that special cloth?
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>>87805341
Leliana?
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>>87805341
9/8 would bind to a mortal body to tame the sea
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>>87805292
his only redeeming feature is his hat
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>>87805292
who knew
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>>87805171
So she's just pretending not to know about Blackwall and Solas? Ugh
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>>87805414
No

hint: this had to be done to her
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>Finally get to Skyhold
>Forgot what triggers the Specialization War Table mission
>Fuck it, send everyone away, might as well trigger it later
>10 minutes of Crestwood
>Back in Skyhold, mission is available
>Need toplel to finish that mission and she is away on a 10 hour mission

Whelp. Typical toplel fuckery.
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>>87805485
Sera.
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>>87805403
nah thats a dalish scout armor, so medium
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Sera is so cute as long as she keeps her mouth shut.
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>>87805171
of course she knows, she has no life outside of bitching how oppressed she is by everything on the internet, this is vindication to her, proof of how much people hate her because they're racists, homophobes, misogynists. of course, it has nothing to do with her and her own charming personality...
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>>87805485
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>>87805575
just move the date forward, silly
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>>87805601
TopLel is EYM
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>>87805610
what's happening here
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>>87805171
Who, Aimo?
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>>87805637
Playing on PS4, I've heard several times now that it fucks with the game.
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>>87805664
Mating call
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>>87805601
I don't know much about EYM except what is occasionally quoted in this thread but, what nationality/skin color is she that she is screaming about racism way more than sexism? Also, what gender does she self identify with?
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>>87805664
Prey and Predator
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>>87805601
This is sad, I thought she was simply ignorant but this means she actually sees people using somewhat logical arguments and just writes them all off as racist/misogynist.
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>>87805753
She's black and very into oppression olympics.
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>>87805664

But this is where it all started
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>>87805839
This destroys my headcanon. I was so damn sure she was a white privileged 20ish rich kid.
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>>87805592
t-thanks anon, I always knew I was cutsies deep down insides
cough *hobbitses*
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I killed Hinterlands dragon, which one is next
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>>87805918
I'd rather do Gollum. Better personality.
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>>87805771
she's not that ignorant or stupid really. she's just emotionally fucked up completely. the gist of what she says usually makes at least some sense, it's just that she makes a huge deal out of every little thing.

everything is always the worst oppressive transgression possible, it's never just "yeah this is a minor thing, but it would've been better if they did it differently"
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>>87805918
simply epic
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>>87804824

He never claims he has it worse than other people
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>>87804336
your Cullen desperately needs sum ultra meshes
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>>87805865
Nah it's a mistake to think of tumblr sjws like that, they usually have the right idea but it always gets overshadowed by their terrible personality.
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>>87806010
The title Dragon Age is fucking oppressive. Just because it features Dragons shouldn't mean it should be called Dragon Age. I demand the title changed to Fennec Age. Fennecs are always oppressed and seen as nothing more than meat and sexy skin. EQUALITY FOR FENNECS!
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>>87805771
some people never grow up

>"you are only saying that because you are jealous!"
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>>87805592
I like how pissed off every companion looks when you're adventuring
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>>87805961
cresting woods
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why is cory such a weak ass bitch
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>go get that dalish scout schematic
>oh boy oh boy -
>rogue only
>with no metal slots, so I can't use silverite.
Awh.
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>>87806010
I agree, though I'll never get behind the whole "everyone should by polyamorous polysexual" thing.
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>>87806212
>Mystery of the Cory
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>>87806212
Because his divine husbandos abandoned him.
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Any advices on reaver warrior?
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Just got to Skyhold. About to spec into being a Templar but I'm unsure about re-rolling to be some kinda Rogue.

I'm fine with all the warrior companions, Dorian and Solas are okay, but Varric seemingly does fuck-all and Sera/Cole I just can't stand.

Are the rogue specialisations any fun? More fun than Templar?
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Any DLC info?
Small dlc's or Awakening type or character dlc?
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>>87806346
Yeah, don't die.
Seriously. Though, having guard helps a lot.
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>>87806138
solas looks so angry and evil most of the time

>>87806242
yeah, her ships are so shit. I don't mind ot3, but please, make make them make some sense.
shepard/garrus/tali? ok, great, I can see that. shepard/garrus/thane? what the fuck. just make 2 shepards if you find them both attractive. for that ot3 to work, you have to get them so ooc, it's like different people with their names
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best husband
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Why is Sera so perfect?
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>clear out massive bloodmage operation in denerim in that one house
>also fight that one tevinter bloodmage who had the deal with the throne
>at the same time Loghain went completely off the rails
I can't help but wonder if bloodmagic was semi-responsible for some of his decisions post-Ostagar.
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>>87806073
I just don't feel like the whole thing is worth my time. both he and the story nudge you to take his problems seriously, but his problem isn't serious compared to what goes on in the world around him.
it's like when a chubby girl complains about being fat to her fat friend, yeah, being chubby isn't easy either, but really...

>>87806463
not yet. I think they're cautious not to announce anything too soon, they don't want any accusations that they removed content from the game and sold it as dlc again.
it should be about flemeth/solas, whoever survived there.
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>>87804301
Haven't played the game yet, but heard he reappers in it and dies again. Is there a way to prevent that, or did I keep that old fox alive for just one last stand?
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>>87806353
Artificer Archer is my shill pet, but Templar is the bomb.
>>87806346
Alas, no Templar Battmaster is so much better in almost everyway, so I never bothered to git gud at it.
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>>87806549
Bloodmagic and magic in general is a source of all fuck-ups in thedas.
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>>87806490
I'm still jealous of that one anon who said they can't play da:i because Dorian looks like their ex
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>>87806531
She's not.
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>>87806579
Yeah, he can live but you gotta make another sacrifice.
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>>87806673
She is.
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>>87806678
Than goodbye to that other poor soul whoever they are.
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>>87806739
rip
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>sigh i have a lot of thoughts that i can’t verbalize right now wrt sera, dorian, the da:i storyline in general, but i’m also not done with the game so like i’m in that weird place where i don’t want to say shit just yet but i also have opinions that need to get down lmao

>so instead i’ll just leave this:

>characters are crafted. stories are crafted. everything you put in a story is a conscious decision, a conscious choice, even if plenty of writers and artists like to pretend there’s some mysticism to how writing or art works.

>this is why i find “but canon!” or “but it’s realistic!” to be completely bullshit excuses for like just about anything in fiction. and also i’m very sorry but saying “canon” or “realism” as the reason for why something problematic should exist in your fiction is never ever good. it makes you look thoughtless and ignorant at best, offensive at worst.

>the characters you make, who they are and what they say, are all conscious decisions. the world and its rules are all conscious decisions. the lore/”canon” are conscious decisions, not unchangeable laws that must absolutely be adhered to. because its a work of fucking fiction and you made the rules up okay. there should be some logical train of thought and consistency in how things run—because nothing loses your audience faster, and upsets them, than the lack of consistency—but for the most part anything goes.
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>riding red hart as an elf
Feels good man.
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>>87806739
And make best girl, amongst others, cry?
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>>87806739
lol no
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>>87805171
Is this aimo or eym?
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>>87806797

>that’s why when it comes to characters who are written to be offensive, when it comes to writing in issues such as sexism or racism in your world’s setting, you really really need to THINK about WHY you want that in your world or why you want your character to be that way. because it cannot exist in your fiction unless you want it to be there. and when you deal with anything problematic you really need to be extra careful. if you don’t handle it correctly, you might be doing nothing more than reinforcing or justifying problematic oppressive views or actions. stories do have power after all.

>basically, in short, it’s going to be interesting to hear some of the justifications for the writing team’s decisions in da:i, should they ever decide to weigh in on it. because there are some things i honestly have to ask why they even thought it was a good idea to include.


That's a clear example that tumblr doesn't know wtf they're talking about
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>>87806872
Eym
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>>87806795
wrong bird anon
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>>87806803

If I could find a Halla, I'd use it, but since I didn't it was Red Hart for me for 90% of my game
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>>87806797
>>87806886
what is untrue here?
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>>87806010
Thought you were talking about Sera for a moment there.
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>tfw feminist tumblrina friend discovers that DAI is out
>she don't know anything about the game
>rolled a strong independent female inquisitor
>wow, Cass looks hot! And I can flirt with her!
>And that cutie Dorian hot too! Wow, I can flirt with him!
>mfw
Cass is truly the moste.
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So Alistair/Loghain/Stroud was a stand-in for the Hero of Ferelden, right?
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>>87806907
Isn't that a peregrine falcon?
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>>87806995
No. Stroud is the real Hero of the dragon age setting.
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>>87806941
Yeah I was disappointed by the lack of halla mounts at first but the hart has grown on me :3
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>>87806907
see
>>87807010

also stop trying to spoil it you jerks thats close enough
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>>87807010
Apparently it's a dark morph rough-legged hawk.
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?
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>>87807010
And nevermind
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>>87806886
Does she really think people need to justify their decisions to her?
JFC it's like she doesn't even realize she's advocating censorship.
"If it's offfensive it can't be on the shelf" someone give that bitch Fahrenheit 451.
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>>87805171
We get the high comedy that is watching her meltdowns and she gets some small measure of validation for her life.

Everybody wins!
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>>87807145
Fahrenheit 451 is offensive, I know 4 people that were raped by 5 males at 1 time.
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Hey, guys do you think someone finally is going to use Kirkwall for something? Since it's basically a circle full of blood magic?
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>>87807145
>>87806886
I don't think that's it, but it's more that BW should think about author intention and reader reception, especially when they want to be LGBT friendly.

Basically, if you write shitheads to be shitheads check if you're not attracting shitheads. Like Moore wrote Rohrshach to be disgusting yet many idolize that psychopath.
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>>87807189
Eh, some anon semi-spoiled Blackwall for her. The thread burned some 60 posts on why that was uncool. Cause it is. Spoilers are the work of Dumat
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Go damn I wanna replay as a female elf mage since it has the most content but I just finished a playthrough as a male human KE and I don't want it to be too samey but the other Mage specializations don't interest me.
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>>87806886
Isn't pretending bad stuff doesn't exist much worse than including it?
Having racism, rape etc in a game and acting like it's ok, like it's the natural state of the world - that's bad, but no one does that. Actually some people can go their whole lives without realizing racism and sexism and stuff like this can open their eyes to it.
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>>87807261
B-but Necromancy is love
Besides you can do a warrior or Rogue and get just as much content from the romance.
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>>87807145
whoever wrote this has a better grasp on how fiction works and what role it plays in society than you seem to.
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So I'm in the Fade in Here Lies the Abyss and completely out of potions and incapable of going forward beyond the next set of enemies. Am I completely fucked?
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>>87807342
Really, now. Care to elaborate?
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>>87806953

Trying to control anything "problematic" is fine by you? Don't you think it's weird Sera straight killing someone, that *we*(the player and character) know nothing about, is ok by tumblr but conscious sexism and internalized racism is going too far? In a character that had no education whatsoever, grewn up in misery and was clearly abused* by the system?

They don't want any kind of conflict to exist. They don't want to see any resemblance of the dirtness of our world reflected on fiction. Because that is "problematic".

I, too, complain when I think something is problematic, let's say, sexist without need (TW1 cards).

But these people, they promote the erasure of freedom, in the name of the political correct.


*abuse isn't classified as only sexual. Neglect, violence, hunger are all forms of abuse.
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>>87807360
There should be a few places to replenish your stocks. Just git gud
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Just done the siege at Haven. I preferred Corypheus' old voice from the DA 2 DLC.
Now he just sounds they slapped the "generic evil bad guy" voice filter on him.
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>>87806573
His problem is mostly a byproduct of the dysfunctional Tevinter politics, which have also given us the Venatori, blood mages and other such wondrous things. He has just cause.

I'd say having your father reject you and intend to sunder your mind for an absurd reason is a little more tragic than complaining about being chubby.
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>>87807401
>TW1 cards
I wouldn't call that sexist exactly. immature, yes. More fit to eroge and not a serious game, too. Unnecessary, definitly. But sexist? Would you say the same if the situation was reversed? Cards with half-naked or more naked guys after sexing them?
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>>87807261
Just do the opposite of what you did last time. Pick Mages first time? Pick Templars this time. Fuck Cass? Be a complete dick to her.
Just mix it up and try speccing your party different.
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>>87807518
It's objectifying.
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>>87807550
Yes. So? I bet you are doing it too.
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>>87806797
>>87806886
That's a lot of words to say "I want all fiction to be like Disney"
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>>87806953
I probably don't know what i'm talkin about too, but:
Stories, characters, etc., "crafted" to be realistic and appeal for the audience. Not to force some agenda, no matter how good this agenda is. Video games is not a folklore fables that was used to pass free from man to man in form of telling stories. It's a commercial product, and people want something more or less realistic, not a world where shitton of races magically forgot what racism is.
Story about how racism\sexism\etc bad won't sell. Good story will sell. Story that solely relies on "we are so against racism, racism is so bad" is not a good story.
tl;dr: it's all about monies.

Just because few thousands liberal-oriented tumbrinas is think that it's okay to create fictions without racism\sexism\etc, doesn't change the fact that rest of the world(like, 99%) is still dealing with those issues on daily basis. And it won't magically go away if you erase it from your writing. Videogames and any kind of commercial stories awlays relfect society that created them, when there will be no racism at all in whole world - games won't contain any racism.

Also, everything here: >>87807401 especially part about conflict.
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>>87807295
this person seems to be saying that you should be aware of all the variables and implications if you do choose to write about the bad stuff. like, write it consciously, with the fullest possible awareness of what you're writing and what implications it carries.

there's people on tumblr who argue that there shouldn't be anything bad in fantasy because it should be for escapism from the bad stuff in real world, but those people are a minority and they're dumb.

>>87807370
they never said they need to justify themselves to her, they said IF they wanted to explain things, she'd be interested in knowing why they did certain things.
anyway, whether writers have a social responsibility re what they write is a huge question, it's not as simple as "she's advocating censorship" (and censorship is bad). this is like one of the classic questions of fiction since plato's republic, and it's very very central today.
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I finished the entire game without ever seeing Alistair even though he was King. How did I miss him and what role does he play?
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Is it true batrider is pudge in high MMR? You know that hero that is fun to play but everyone gets mad if you mess up?
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>>87807578
Disney is racist and sexist, anon.
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>>87807593
templar supporter scum detected
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Reminder that you don't deserve your waifu or fagbando if you aren't whiteknighting her/him on 4chan and YouTube's comment section
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>>87807447

yeah, old Cory's voice was better.

>>87807518

It's not the same and you know it. Our society sees women as objects, and the TW1 card system was reinforcing it to players.

I also wouldn't like it with a male version, with the game setting it would've been another kind of sexism. But I'm stopping here, bc this is the DAG thread and I only used TW as an ex.
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>Well look who finally came out of his quarters. What are you doing up there all the time, Inquisitor?
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>>87807593
>You sided with the templars
You won't get a face to face if you don't side with the mages.
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>>87807678
>removing best husbando from that pic
Disgusting
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>>87807623
You know what I mean, sunshine and butterflies and hugging all problems out.
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>Vivienne is made divine
I fucked up, I thought that operation was to give Cassandra a chance. That will teach me not to read things.
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>>87807573
What
If I am I haven't noticed.
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>>87807730
It's not fair for Jose and Lel to have Cass AND Cullen in the same pic.
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Blackwall as SnB or 2H?
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>>87807645
>>87807447
>mfw Cory's DA2 voice in German was the coroner from NCIS
>whenever Cory's in the house I can't help but think of that nasal old geezer voice screaming "GEPRIESEN SEI DUMAT"
>ruins every hint of dramatic tension
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>>87807620
I don't know about that since they don't really have same role. Pudge is a mid number 1 position and Batrider is hard lane number 2/3 position but you definitely see more bat the higher your MMR goes . a Pudge messing up is much worse that a batrider messing up..
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>>87807645
>Our society sees women as objects
I don't think so, but since this is not a thread for this discussion, I'm going to leave it at that.
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>>87807883
most reasonable post I've read this day
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>>87807875
>>87807620
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>87808052
That guy posted in the wrong general. Should have posted in DotA but since I play DotA I decided to answer him anyway
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>>87807821
he's a champion. SnB demigod. if you want a 2h have any other warrior class
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>>87807401
I don't see where this person is arguing what you think they are.

>>87807579
>Not to force some agenda, no matter how good this agenda is.
agenda just means that you did what you did purposefully to do just that.
maybe not all fiction has an agenda, but all of it does something, all fiction is written from some perspective, it's just a question of how aware the writers are of what their own perspective and its implications are.
when people talk about this, they just mean that writers should ask temselves why they wrote something the way they did more often.

there's a lot of writers who do have an agenda, say, gaider and bw in general always say they want to be progressive. it's just that they don't have a full enough awareness to be trully progressive. if they thought deeper about what they're writing, they would've been aware of certain implications of their writing, and could've changed it if they wished.
for example, gaider said he didn't realize how offensive the portrail of trans women in dao and da2 would be to people, if he thought about it more carefully, he would've realized that without having to be told, and with that realization make an informed decision whether to write them the way they were written, or change the script.
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Playing as a hesitant qunari mage, should I let all 3 live in the winter palace or give it to Gaspard/Celene?
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>>87807985
What's your true personality, the 4chan one or the tumblr one? I need to know.
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>>87807709
God damn it.
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>>87808241
both and none
don't think about it too much
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>>87808226
Gaspard
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>missing one trophy for platinum because I refused to drink some old bath water

t-thanks bioware
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>get to alter after Temple of Mythal after having Morrigan drink
>find out the drinker is Flemeth's slave
>immediately exit out and reload a save that was in the temple
>drink the water myself
>slave to Flemeth

muh dick

I have always had the biggest fucking boner for Kate Mulgrew since Mrs. Columbo and Star Trek Voyager.
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>>87808512
hoo boy
nobody tell him
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I know Bioware wanted to make Dwarves more relevant than just "Small people who like to dig" but they fucked up too hard and just made them into small humans.
The 3 main races is DA should be humans, Elves and Qunari.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbYuvl924AY
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>>87808548
surface dwarves basically are

the caste dwarves are actually interesting
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Is Cullen's romance boring?


His seems like it's typical/uninteresting, despite the fact that he's qt
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>>87808625
It's sweet.
Like milk chocolate. With toffi.
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Why is there no mention of Zevran? I thought him becoming the head of the Crows is a pretty big fucking deal and Josie would at least mention him, not to forget that Leliana is your spymaster and she has an opportunity to use their connection.
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>>87808610
;-; I cry everytiem
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>>87808171

This questioning is counter productive and a way to dismiss someone's work, without outright saying it.

It's very obvious what this tumblerina is babbling about. I don't like it, why is it there?

Why doesn't she try to analyze the character instead, huh?

There is a reason for Sera to exist. She is our first real city elf companion. Zevran was a crow first, suffered abuse, yes, but was trained to be an assassin. He was educated and fed.

Sera was left for the flies. We also know how bad she had it. Tevinter /mages/ abducting people, a haunted orphanage, women getting raped by nobles. No wonder she doesn't remember the blight. Her life was shaped by misery&violence, death on her door was monday.

She is the true alienage's child, a living reminder to players and, duh duh, Solas. That's what he created.
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>>87808540
Tell me what?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35aJwbGTK0E
muh dick
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Does anyone have a good Varric and Dorian build they can share. I want something OP since I'm already playing a KE
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>>87808540
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>>87808512
Can you give it to Solas?
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>>87808882

No. Leave this place, only return after you finish the game. Seriously.
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>>87808882
If you ask him he tells you to fuck off
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>>87808747
>That's what he created.
Probably why he doesn't dislike her.
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>>87808958

Indeed. He trying to reach for her was heartbreaking.
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>>87808625
It's really good, actually, I was surprised that he wasn't intended as an LI originally, because it's definitely better than Frauswell and seems more complete than bull's.

But then again, depends on your definition of boring, I guess. I mean, he doesn't fuck and duck like Fraudwell does, for example.
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In that quest where you have to bring felandris to a tree, do you have to get that felandris yourself? I don't think I've ever seen one anywhere.
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Ending stuff

Does this mean that Morrigan/Inquisitor are now slaves to Solas?
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>>87809125
yeah and you only find it lions which is the last zone, the quest is massive let down
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>>87808818
you're already playing a KE, you could be playing on nightmare and you'd still be OP. put their abilities into their most useless trees and it wont be a difference, or y'know, try their specialities a bit and whatever works best with it.
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>>87809058

does blackfraud really fucks you in a barn and then leaves you?
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>>87809151

Yes, I hope you were his friend
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>>87809248
kind of like Solas, he flicks you a gold coin after you suck his dick and tells you to get lost
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>>87809248
Yes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j26F3Ucc5U
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>>87808171
I agree with this
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>>87809176
Not worth the trouble then? Thanks
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>>87809151
The inquisition is now enslaved to the God of Rebellion. So much potential they're going to waste.
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>>87808747
I don't think that's what she's saying, but ok, I don't have anything to say on what I think she's saying aside from I already did.

I agree about sera, I think she was clumsily written, but I do like that the gist of her character was what it was. I talked about most of what you said about her yesterday in dag.

>That's what he created.
there's a bit of banter I interpreted along those lines, where he says something like, you're the furtherest away from what you were supposed to be.
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>>87809394
I especially love that we can see the medic standing near the campfire just outside the barn and fuck knows how many people pass that thing. Not to mention the stables master.
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>>87808680
>no mention of Zev
What, not even a letter?
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>>87809331
I may have punched him in the face at some point. I hope he forgives easily.
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>>87809641
You get a letter.
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>>87809394

holy fuck, no wonder they'd to add Cullen and Solas.

>>87809375

No, Solas had the decency of breaking up with it. He wasn't a coward.
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So is there any way for your quarters in Skyhold to be fixed up like the rest of the castle? I've already done Adamant fortress and the ball, so all the scaffolding is gone from outside and the judgement hall, but my quarters still have torn up rugs and floorboards lying around, not to mention there's still things under sheets and scaffolding in the tower part.

Do these go away or is all this crap stuck here?
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>>87808680
>>87809641
There is a War Table quest where You are hunting Tevinter Mage with Crow Agents.
Zevran accidentally kill your Crow agents, so he help you kill the Mage instead but then you have to cover for his escape.
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>>87807518
It's still my headcanon that Gerald has a stack of his own cards and gives them to every lady he bones.
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>>87809469
Morrigan drinking is probably the Canon route.
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>>87809195
I don't want my party members to die plus there may be a nerf in bounds which would be stupid so I want to be ready.

So yea, any good Varric or Dorian builds?
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anyone romanced solas?
I'm elf female and i'm thorn between Sera and Solas
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you guys have shit taste in tavern songs
posting the best one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cin4etTJiwk
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How do I get that strip poker scene that I've been seeing around?
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>>87809876
Go Solas. He's the best romance after Cullen.
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>>87809906
Why are all of the lyrics so awful?
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>>87809876

Solas is just too good, imo

I don't want to romance anyone after completing the game as his waifu
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Can I romance people to change their card and then break up with them? Or is it permanently lock after you do their final quest?
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>>87809876
pick solas

did you play the game before?
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>>87809876
Solas is one of the best characters, Sera is probably the worst. It's not a difficult choice.
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I was aiming to go Knight-Enchanter with my mage playthrough, but goddamn if the trainer for Rift Mage doesn't tempt me to go with that just because she's hilarious.
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Where the hell do I find Red Lyrium? The one for crafting the corruption rune that is, not the destroyable stuff.
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I Am the One is the best bard song
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>>87809709
Let's try this again...

Dorian said he'd redecorate.
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>>87810074
kill red templars
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>>87808839
> him being an ass man was already in concept art

impressive, bioware
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>>87809941
Varric, might have to be friends with 3 or more companions.
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>>87809876
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So for a human male, what are the best romances?

Any worthwhile or should I not even bother with them?
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>>87810173
Yeah, about that...Siding with the Templars seems like really fuck with that. I mean I guess there are still some but not as plenty as the Mages side, right?
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>>87810137
Did he really? He liked my room. Is it because I bought epic bed just for him?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XNnAtvTx_I
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>>87810237
And men go lifting to meet these standarts, yet women are just bitch. I'm not getting it.
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>>87810070
Rift Mage is all sorts of fun, especially with hear that builds focus faster, and the perk for team focus.
KE is amazing if you like melee mage though.
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>>87810024
Yes. That's why I specifically created elf female this time.
At the start I didn't like Sera but at the end she was fine by me. But I'll go with Solas and still flirt with Sera
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>>87804792
Mages have a better plotline, but this is BioWare, so go Templar for the writers actually playing to their strengths instead of making a joke of "being different".
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>>87810324
I want French version of Nightingale's Eyes
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>>87810354
Mages feel like what bioware wanted you to do, but Templars is a lot more interesting because characters.
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>>87810351

Solas' is heartbreaking good, has greatly animated scenes and voice acting.

I never cared much for romance (Warden and Hawke are single), but he did things for me. It's my favorite video game romance.
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>>87804792
Mage story is ridiculous and mages are idiots.

>Hur we want freedum so we sold ourselves as slaves to Tevinter

I'd go with templars. They're dumb too, but it's less jarring and their plot doesn't introduce shit that could break the story for you.
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On a scale of 1 to "kill yourself" how sad is it I have a crush on asunderchan's Lavellan? Probably more than any real characters? She talks about him on tumblr and he just sounds so comfy + those DSL mang.
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>>87810570
kill yourself
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>>87808342
Alright but I'm retarded, I have no idea how to support him. Get Celene killed?
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>>87810341
you can't get a waistline like barbie's without getting some bones and organs surgically removes, those that try tend to die of anorexia
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>>87810570
Kill yourself with a rusty nail.
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>>87810570
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>>87810351
if you like sera, her sex scene is adorable, light and fun. can't believe I'm near suggesting someone not to pick solas, but if you're not that into heartbreak and star-crossed, bitter-sweet love, you might want to go with sera after all.
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Why, why wont it stop crashing?! Whyyyyy? I've done everything, EVERYTHING.
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>>87810570
take out life insurance, kill yourself, and dictate in your will the insurance money is to be used to hire the ghostbusters to hunt down and kill your ghost
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>>87810570
your pathetic, kill yourself
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>>87809946
Cullen is meh generic Bioware Prince.
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