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Dueling Network General #1486
Last Thread: >>85421978
New and need a deck or want to learn how to play? Check the pastebin.
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The above games are free, so no need to worry about paying for cards you need. The above links are simulators, not games, so you need to do everything yourself.

BEFORE YOU ASK FOR ADVICE FOR YOUR DECK DO THE FOLLOWING:
● Try and keep your deck as close to 40 cards as possible. This increases your chances of drawing the cards you need.
● Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event.
● Most Yu-Gi-Oh Games have an option between Singles (Self explanatory, a single Game) and Matches (Best of 3). It is recommended that you play Matches, as Singles does not teach you how to use your Side Deck.
● After you've playtested your Deck and feel confident about your card choices, post your Deck here. Try suggestions before you trash them, even if someone recommends a weird tech choice. You don't know everything.
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Considering the spike Shared Ride has seen it may not be the worst idea to invest in Mistake. Can still be gotten easily for $3 or less, reprinted in the same Tin Mega-Pack as Shared Ride and is arguably better for actually preventing Necloths from doing anything other than Ritual Summoning with whatever is in their hand.
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>Dueling Network
LOL
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How do I get good in yugioh?
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>>85510702
Accel, Will you dominate me?
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>>85510702
Would it be worth it to invest in foil Mind Crush, since it's seeing play in Necloth too?
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>>85510702
Shut up.
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Here for NaCL.

SECE leak already. I need my Rampenta and Three-Legged Zombie retrain.
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>>85510763
Watch other people play, learn strategies and card interactions.
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>>85510702
Which card from NECH do you think it will be wise to buy soon when they are cheap? As in, Maxx C syndrome.

Also reminder that best girl won.
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>>85510843
wow that is the most obnoxious person i have ever seen.
I shouldn't be getting this upset over a screenshot
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>>85510957
Probably Denko Sekka. Its already dropped below the ridiculous $20+ price point that it was before.
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Qiuniu, Cosmic Dragon of Sound
Level 3 Divine Tuner Wyrm-Type Monster
You can only use each effect of “Qiuniu, Cosmic Dragon of Sound” once per turn.
(1) When this card you control is destroyed by battle or by card effect and sent to your Graveyard: You can Special Summon 1 “Cosmic Dragon” monster from your Deck in face-up Attack Position, except “Qiuniu, Cosmic Dragon of Sound”.
(2) When this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can target 1 level 5 or lower “Cosmic Dragon” monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon that target.

Shen Cuu, Cosmic Dragon Purity
Level 10 Divine Wyrm-Type Synchro Monster
1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Wyrm-Type monsters.
(1) If this card is Synchro Summoned: cards and effects cannot be activated.
(2) Once per turn: You can destroy 1 "Cosmic Dragon" monster you control, and if you do add 1 "Cosmic" card from your Graveyard to your hand.
(3) Once per turn: You can send 1 Wyrm-Type monster from your Deck to your graveyard: During this turn, this card is unaffected by other card effects.

Cosmic Dragon Ascension
Continuous Spell Card
(1) Once per turn: You can add 1 "Cosmic Dragon" monster from your Deck to your hand, and if you do destroy this card. (2) If this card is sent to the Graveyard by your opponent's card effect: You can Special Summon 1 "Cosmic Dragon" monster from your Deck.

Reverse Disk pendulum effect: heals for 500 OPT, or heals for 2000 if tribute summoned him.
Reverse Shell exactly the same, but burns.
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>>85510957
Thank god this autistic garbage is finally over, narutoplebs must be so butthurt right now.
Don't tell me they're doing a spin off with his kids and shit though
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>>85510763
The same way as always, by reading Sun Tzu's "The Art of War".
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>>85511097
Am i being rused? Is this shit legit? where the fuck did you get this from?
I will allow myself to react when i get the answer
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>>85511097
>DIVINE outside the nostalgia gods

No.

>>85511062
I wish Denko Sekka had 1600 ATK.

Or Electric Virus was level 4. But in the future I might shove Sekka in something.

And this is a bigger blowout than Zutara. Even though it should've been a Sorato for maximum rage
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>>85511379
>>85511447
They're legit, but whether or not it will save them is debatable. I like the reverse Disk and Shells.
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>>85511447
Really, nobody won. Everyone suffered from reading this shit for years, the weeaboo population increased dramatically when they latched onto this shit, two shit imaginary girls got matched with two shit imaginary boys, autists seriously made pairings for this shit, the artist either got worse at drawing as time went on or the assistants with talent that he actually had all got fired, everything was awful.

But it's over now.
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>>85511097
Reverse Killer and Reverse Tool when?
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>>85511116
>Don't tell me they're doing a spin off with his kids and shit though

A new manga and spin off series is planned for 2015, and yeah about the kids. Kabuto seems to be the villain/antagonist.
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>>85511748
Alias is Reverse Tool.
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>>85511097
Same shit as before
>DIVINE attribute on regular ass monsters
>Yang Zing support in the form of monsters when we've already got 9 Yang Zings and the entire archetype is based on 9 Sons of the Dragon

That second part could easily be ignored by Konami but it would set my autism a flare if they did that. The fucking DIVINE attribute is a dead give away though, who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
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>>85511558
>They're legit
not to be a dick, but im not buying that until i get some sort of proof, you can't just expect me to believe you like that.
If real these are really good, Ching Chongs are my favorite petdeck and this will bump them up quite a bit. Divine is fucking crazy, and burn 2000 is 2crazy even for Jewnami, quite hard to believe.
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>>85511726
>Everyone suffered from reading this shit for years
except those of us who aren't fucktards that never did read it.
>>85511791
The Kobe shekelstein ride never ends
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>>85512021
You suffered from having to hear people talk about it after reading it.
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>>85511809
They could get an extra monster based on the Dragon King, but two more monsters just isn't possible.
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Are there any archetypes that splash well in a DD deck? I was thinking maybe Artifacts but I dunno.
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>>85512671
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Floaters are ruining the game and making easymode autopilot decks where no real thought or long-term strategy is required.

Debate me.
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>>85512671
Monarchs
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y so ded
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>>85513125
Anyone that uses the term "autopilot" needs to head back to Pojo for crying about good decks being good.

You can't debate me because I'm right.
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>>85513125
Yang Zings are shit, and all of their monsters float, in fact that is their entire gimmick.

Argument won.
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>>85513125
Floaters can't be ruining the game now because floaters have existed since fucking 2005. Read a book
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somewhat spooky confirmed
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>>85513235
>>85513461
>>85513225
Alright, let me rephrase, then.

Absurdly Good Multipurpose Floaters are defeating the point of any sort of counter-strategy or counterplay, which necessitates the need for stunshit to be in such absurd quantities in the game, which is in turn killing the game. There is minimal effort required to play the game in the current meta.
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>>85513125
>with no real thought

Well, maybe if you playing against a door. All decks you need to adjust your gameplay to whoever you are facing.
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>>85514037
>There is minimal effort required to play the game in the current meta.

Remove "in the current meta" and you'll sum up this game in its entirety.
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>>85513858
what
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>>85514153
SOMEWHAT
SPOOKY
CONFIRMED
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>>85514037
It's not the floating that's the problem, the problem is that everything good either is impossible to make go minus while at the same time generating massive plus for themselves.
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>>85514037
>There is minimal effort required to play the game

There never was effort required to play the game.
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>>85514273
That's it. There's no real cost for being as good as they are.

Hell, Monarchs are probably the most balanced shit there is. Most of their effects have some sort of trade-off, and their support cuts off Extra Deck use.
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>>85514220
but anon
what does that mean
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Fuck gay duelems

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1172653
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SO how do you counter dvine beasts such as obelisk? Furthermore I dont understand, does the card block effects of effect monsters altogether or only the ones in response or that directly target him?
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>>85499490
>no results
source pls
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lol
meta
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>>85515302

I easily defeated an Obelisk with Dragonecro
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>>85515302
Non-targeting removal ;)
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>>85515302
Honest.
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>>85515382
Thank you for being patient.
http://exhentai.org/g/754515/046be123d6/
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>>85514450
>he thinksa cutting off the extra is a good thing
And that's the reason why they'll only see play in nostalga fags dreams.
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>>85516280
based
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Any way to make these guys faster and more annoying?
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>>85517769
-3 Neos Alius
-1 Hero Lives
-2 Miracle Fusions
+1 RotA
+2 Tinplate Goldfish
+3 Upstart Goblins
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>>85517769
netdeck a jap build
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>>85515302
Beat stick it
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>>85517935
>Goldfish and not Goblindbergh
>-1 Hero Lives

Dumb bitch
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>>85516809
That's the fucking point you nimrod. It's SUPPOSED to be a bad thing. You do bad things so you can make good things better things. Simple trade-off logic.

>Nostalgiafag
Nice buzzword there.
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>>85511264
I rather not read.
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>>85514037
Quit beating around the bush man, just say it, Hands make you a salty faggot.
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How am I supposed to play these infernoid niggers. I keep reading their summoning conditions and I'm like uwot.

I don't understand what's the point.
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>>85519081
You're not.
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>>85518820
Then you'll fit in here just fine
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>>85518820
Then you better leave.
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>>85519081
Use little guys to pop shit. Summon Mecha-Garunix from grave to blow up the monsters and attack with 3K. That's all there is to it.
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>>85519081
Reasoning
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>>85518928
Eh, it's less Hands and more Shaddolls. Even BAs don't get me salty.

I just don't like the fact that Shaddolls just get to do whatever they like when they like. They have complete disregard for the normal order of things and turn the game's mechanics over and fuck them in the ass.

If it was a choice between this and Fusion being terrible forever, I'd rather Fusion be terrible forever.
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>>85518732
>trade off logic in yugioh
That's not how this card game operates dweeb. It hasn't been like that since people stopped running smashing ground.
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>>85519858
I don't think I've been this buttblasted about shadolls in forever, learn to accept the fact the game is broken and move on.
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>>85519283
Yeah. Run Chaos Necromancer and Gren Maju De Eiza since Infernoids can't be special summoned except by their own effect.
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>>85520051
Not him but isn't more like how do I earn more cards than my oppoent?
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>>85519858
Your fault for being reliant on Rank 4s. ;)

Then again Shaddolls don't make me mad. I despise BAs and Satellas more. Traps or die decks are generally more annoying
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>mfw denko sekka becomes double it's value after the ARGCS
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I'm new to the game, basically if I want to ritual summon I can use monsters from my hand or field or a mix of both? Am I geting this right?
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>>85520573
If you want to ritual summon, you don't.
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>>85520573
If you want to ritual play Necloths or don't bother.
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>>85520573
Use ritual spell on monster(s) in hand and/or your side of the field equal to or greater than the level of the ritual monster. YES
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>>85520573
Mixture of both.

Also its not a good idea to play Rituals outside Nekroz. Unless Herald of Perfection buttmad makes you happy
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>>85520790
I just want to use Zorc.
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>>85520790
There is Demise Geartown OTK.
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>>85519283
Huh, so I basically play a bunch of brick and pray I open with reasoning?

Sounds like a 10/10 konami concecpt like sylvans. I'm still not convinced.
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>>85521023
Which is shit.
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Necroface+Reasoning in infernoids
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>>85520931
you might want this in your deck
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>>85521236
yes I do have that.
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>>85520107
>the game is broken
YGO isn't broken. It won't be broken until a deck has a COMPLETELY 0% chance of bricking. Every T0 deck that has ever existed could STILL brick, it might've been rare as shit or difficult, but it could happen.
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>>85521236
>that six
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>>85520537
Do you really think so?

I'm still debating whether or not i should buy a few of him.
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>>85517769
Stop running Alius
Why do people love to throw Alius in eveyr HERO build ever?
No stop
Alius is shit
Alius has always been shit
He was only less shit in HERO Beat because that format was actually slow enough for HERO Beat to be playable and Gemini Spark and HERO Blast were actual good cards against Inzektors and Dino Rabbit.
Stop playing him in M-HERO though
He sucks shit in M-HERO and more fast paced version of HEROs
The deck you're playing is supposed to extend into damage very quickly through Mask Change and Xyzs
Alius does the opposite of that because he's a cloggy piece of shit that forces you to prioritize your normal summons for no reason making it that much harder to play your other best card, aside from Shadow Mist, Bubbleman
And notice how you suddenly feel obligated to play Miracle Fusion, another card that is NOT good in M-HERO, because you play Alius?
Miracle Fusion is shit in M-HERO
You actually want cards in your graveyard
You don't want to banish things because Miracle Fusion is piss poor slow compared to Mask Change

Stop playing Alius
Stop playing Miracle Fusion
Pray that Stratos comes off the banlist some time soon
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>>85521434
>him
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>>85521518
Do NOT be rude to Alius! He works hard!
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>>85520231
I don't even rely on Rank 4s. I play fucking Qliphorts. I win my matchup 90% of the time and I STILL think the deck is irritating.
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>>85521236
>That 6
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>>85521561
>not posting the superior image
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Infernoid mecha chicken is fun.
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>>85522279
Normie beat down is fun. People don't expect it and are often not equipped to deal with it effectively. Slap a bunch of generic spells and traps, bit of atk boost equips and run over everything in your path
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>>85522548
Still have no idea how to build infernoids. Thinking of putting in LS to mill shit.
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>>85522979
Awakened Purgatory, Reasoning/Monstergate, Necroface Gold Sarc combos might be better.
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>>85522979
try reasoning, kuribandit and fabled raven
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>>85522979
I just admitted running normie beat down, I'm clearly a shitter and am going to be no help here
My favourite deck is currently Signer Dragon deck featuring Black wings for gods sake
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Does machina fortress discarding opps cards trigger shaddolls in there hand?
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Tourney when?
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Secret tech
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>>85523613
>allowing cheaters in tourneys
Fiancheaters pls go
Did you somehow get unbanned?
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>>85521236
>>85521860
>>85521402
This is going to become a thing isn't it
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>>85523613
I'll host one on friday and make the prize 5 steam games and the runner up prize a playset of vanities.
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>>85523223
Raven not seem like a good idea but Kuribandit is not bad. The problem with the deck right now is hand size. A lot of banishment, but great field presence, maybe Yamato Dragon can help with that.
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>>85524004
Who are you?
Make the challonge soon
pls
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>Play against 3.5 axis FF
>First two games are neck and neck, he wins G2 I win G1
>G3 my opening field is Machina Fortress with Gearframe attached, 2 Kaiser Colosseum, 1 backrow, Shadow Feeler in gy
>He scoops
Hah

>>85522006
Kek

>>85523378
Yes.

>>85523613
GOD damn my inner child is conflicted by this picture

>>85523680
>awful
>Not baskinrobins.dek
Come on man I thought we had a thing going here.
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>>85524237
On friday
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>>85523938
I don't get it, card is good if coupled with Zorc.
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>>85524237
Oh right almost forgot when you make a challonge people will just join it and challonge will pair them up correct?
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>>85524994
I mean people posting the card for number checking purposes
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>>85525121
Oh, guess I'm slow.
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>>85525205
Nah, s'cool, i might have misunderstood too.
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>>85520790
Saffira with a small BA engine is t2.
>Untargetable, one-sided vanity's with multiple destruction protection and cycling honests/veilers every turn
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>>85525754
Creature swap ;)
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>>85525845
Here have a r3, tgu, or manju since I don't burn my normal summon on saff. Stormforth and Soul Exchange are a bitch but it's also not that hard to bring out a 2nd or 3rd Saff and the big 3 doesn't run them much.
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>>85525049
yes
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So is it bad if you main Spell Shattering Arrow now?
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>>85526214
>useless against Shaddolls, nearly useless in BA
Side it if you're gonna use it, stupid card to main unless you know you're going against Qlis.
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>>85526214
It's only useful against Qliphs, so if you're playing IRL there's no fucking point since your locals will be lucky to have one richfag with enough dosh to run the jewbots, and there are other (admittedly less-effective) outs to Qliphs that already are maindecked.

If you're playing online, there's still no point in maindecking it unless you're playing Singles like an idiot. Keep it in the side, though.
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>side in cards to have a total of 9 tool hate cards
>draw 0
>they draw a tool and a searcher
Every time. I swear the jews are luckier.
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>>85527038
Bad luck, friend. May I interest you in some Anti-Spell Fragrance? Only All of Your Shekels for a playset, goy.
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God going first with the artifact engine in your deck is so busted.

They should make it not allowed.
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>>85527335
I love the idea of artifacts, I wish it had more than 3 cards that were worth shit.
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>>85527476
I wish the entire premise of the gimmick wasn't "Shit I hope my opponent gets paranoid and blows up my backrow" outside of 2-3 cards.
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>>85527038
>PWWB tool
>duality :^)
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>>85527038
Luckier? what is this g-....
Yes goy, it's simply luck, there's nothing more to it.
Are you perhaps interested in more cardboard to increase your chances? It all boils down to statistical chance you know.
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>Nekroz keeps losing every single nip vid I watch except for petdeck ygopro bullshit.

>10/12 decks in tourney lists I see are nekroz

Is this just fluke after fluke? What's the worst nekroz matchup?
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>>85527743
Nekroz is bad and Japan is bad
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>>85527743
Monarchs :^)
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>>85527476
I use chacra in my synchro deck, admittedly its just because I need something that tributes a monster with an odd name I can't remember so I can SS my Rose Fairy but the secondary effect of defending backrow forms free summon is cool. I don't think I've ever set it as a spell though unless my opponent is really intensive on trashing my back row
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>>85527583
That's not true, though, except if you mean the secondary effects of the spells/traps. they have many ways of getting off their effects that are quite relevant right now, even the secondary effects will see some play due to all the msts everywhere.
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>>85527743
There's no point in recording yourself outside of showing off, you're never gonna see the guy recording lose to Necloths on video.
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>>85527976
I'm watching this 'unofficial tourney channel', they are playing matches even.
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>>85527823
>speaking like this about the overlords
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>>85527743
The problem here is if they can't get a ritual to stick, Nekroz die. At least Shaddolls have plays outside the Fusion spell, Nekroz do not. They auto lose to side.
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>>85528218
>They auto lose to side.

Just like people said Shaddolls and Burning Abyss did because "m-muh SIM".

When will you stupid sacks of shit ever learn that "dies to side" is a moronic argument? Are you that set on wallowing in your own idiocy?
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>>85528218
>They auto lose to side.
Which they side for.
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>>85528393
Play shaddolls without a fusion then
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>>85528563
I will, thanks.
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>>85528218
I used to play gishki and I'm trying to come back for nekroz but it's just pstd all over again. Sure, these guys are consistent as hell and have all these great effects but is the same issue that shuts them down. If you can't resolve the spells your deck can't function. They die to every single floodgate and you can't possible open all your removal all the time and then you have all these new monster-floodgates and even the old ones still fuck them in the butt.

I suppose that the hits on shaddolls made them too unreliable to compete but then I see qlips full powered and able to run all the floodgates maindeck and just vanilla beat/grind out nekroz that I don't understand why everyone and their mom jumped ship into them.
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The Monarch Forced March
Quick-Play Spell
Once during this turn, if you would Tribute a monster(s) you control for a Tribute Summon, you can Tribute up to 2 spell/trap your opponent controls as if they were a monster(s) you control. You can only activate 1 "The Monarch Forced March" per turn. During the turn you activate this card, you cannot Special Summon monsters from the Extra Deck.
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Artifact Infernities.
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>>85528938
Straight up over powered
>2x non-destruction removal
>1x free tribute fodder
You could almost wipe providing you summon a Monarch with this
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>>85528763
MST/Twister/FWind/Hands/TStun/Denkou Sekka
I have answers flooding out of my ears post sideboard, oh and triple Mind Crush mainboard.
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I have created a monster.
A monster that will top at Regionals
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>>85528938
Instant +2, +3 if they have Vanity's up and 2 other face-downs.

The inability to touch the ED is actually worth it for this card, but depending on what Monarch you pull, that's some OTK enabling waiting to happen.
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>>85529260
Mind crush vs Prohibition
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>>85528938
>>85529198
>>85529382
Wait, is this real, or just an imaginary card?
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>>85529571
Real, its the reward for Buying the entire qliphorts core on eBay right now
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>>85529571
It's a nech ghost rare
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>>85529718
>>85530074
Guys
stop messing with me
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Karakuri Geargia or pure geargia?
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>>85530234
Pure Geargia.
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>>85530234
Play what you like more, it's not like you can pretend to be competitive while playing Geargia.
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>>85530234
neither;)
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>>85530234
pure karakuri
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>>85527743
I just realized these niggers are not playing any manjus or releaser djinns, I guess they deserve to lose.
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>>85530234
Hitomi Tanaka
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>>85529054
I prefer Shaddoll Hands Infernity Traptrix
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>>85530781
>not playing your auto-win enablers
Why would you do that?
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>>85530381
>implying Geargia isn't a good deck anymore

scrub.
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>>85530995
sounds like SHIT
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>>85530796
Is literally disgusting.

>Thank you for saying

Yeah you're welcome suck my dick.
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>>85530995
>Not playing Assault Six Shaddolls
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>>85524004
Do you wanna collaborate and make a tourney on Sunday?
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Reminder that next format is going to be Noble Knights > Shaddolls > Qliphs > Noble Knights
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>>85531869
lol dumb shill bitch
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>>85531869
>Shaddolls
>Beating Qliphs
I don't think you've played either deck properly if that's what you think.
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>>85530995
>>85531726
Oh great this meme again
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>>85531037
So you can lose to artifact chingchongs apparently.
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>>85531865
Make it tcg cardpool/banlist for the new pack release
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But seriously, is anyone here playing any version of geargia?

Or does anyone have a geargia list at least?
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>>85531935
Mate Shaddolls have so many ways to fuck over Qliphs its hilarious. They shit on them in Japan and they will shit on them here, too.
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>>85532082
yeah, they shit on them in Japan with their Heavy Storm, unlimited backrow, double DAD, unlimited Super Poly, and their Stick & Chair shit so logically it'll be the same here too :)
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>>85531940
Not gonna lie, I laughed really hard at that pic.
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>>85532189
Stick & Chair is kill you retard.
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So what makes you get nervous in yugioh? Justing seeing "set 5 :)" fucks up my whole playstyle. I rather deal with negatatons than the 5 unknown backrow
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>>85532189
Man, even if Qliphs somehow beat them out with the triple MST triple Meme Games -> Dragon that is standard in Shaddolls, even IF Qliphs somehow take a tourney away from them, Shaddolls will simply start maining Twisters and Dust Tornadoes and shit to deal with them. Also Shaddolls CONTINUED to shit on them even after all of that stuff you referred to was destroyed.
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>>85532335
>what is last format oh my god I'm so retarded and cannot stop sucking dicks :(((((( - your everyday life
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>>85532424
You mean the format Qliphs weren't in, retard?
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>>85532501
are you actually fucking retarded or are you just pretending
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>>85532415
I get happy when I see set 5 because my petdeck is monarchs.
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>>85532082
>Winda doesn't stop Pendulum Summoning
>Tribute Summoned Qliphs (aka: Any Qliph that would be battling) are immune to Neph
>Maindecks Skill Drain @ 3 as well as Chalice in 2s and 3s, making all the monster effects worthless until they hit the grave.
>Can easily run Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror and/or Soul Drain to ignore Shaddoll grave effects.
>Only out to Tool is to Dragon, Cursed Seal, or MST it, 1 of which will have to wait until the opponent's next turn, by which point the player will almost always have another tool ready.

Yeah, no. Jewpuppets don't keep up with Jewbots well at all. You might have a good Game 1 at best, but the only way you can reasonably win the match is if the Qliph player is bad or has the one brick hand in the entire deck on Game 2.
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>>85532562
are you actually fucking retarded or are you just pretending
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>>85532501
You're not a very bright man, are you?
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>>85532615
le ebin parroting because you're an idiot that can't follow the conversation :)

as expected of troglodyte network general
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>>85532415
The opposite for me. Getting all my effects negated makes me saltier than the sea
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Can you guys stop with the ialwayshaveXcard meme. It's pretty embarrassing.
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>>85532732
I always have longsleeves and cheat though anon
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Post Ebola.dek
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>>85532732
I wouldn't say ALWAYS, but a Qliph player that doesn't have Tool might need to check their ratios, seeing as a third of the deck is dedicated to putting Tool in your hand.
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>>85532732
>Not believing in your deck
>Not Top Decking everything you will ever need
>Not having the Heart of the Cards on your side
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Infernoids need a Captain Gold for Overflowing Purgatory.
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>>85532732
I'm with you that "X card is bad because Y card counters it" is retarded, but only a complete ignoramous doesn't build his deck and select his card choices with every counter in mind.
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>>85532029
That was already the plan. So you're good for Sunday?
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I run 3 MST 3 double cyclone 3 twister so I don't give a shit about macro cosmos, vanity emptiness, mistake, etc.

What other cards can people side against Necloths?
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>>85533259
ofc
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>>85533460
fuck off riverside
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>>85533460
vanitys fiend?
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>>85533460
Mind drain is the deadlier card with the excepion being the ones you called, skill drain is next then soul. I guess that dyno anti ss nigga?
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>>85533734
>Mind drain
Are people legitimately using this over Cursed Seal?
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>>85532942
>>85532942
It's anything that shit skin braxton puts up
Yeah nigger i'm calling your bitch ass out
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>>85533460
Shared Ride. Even though its almost a glorified Neko Mane King.

>>85533879
You're gonna have to resolve Cursed Seal twice.

Mind Drain also stops faggots from trying to live longer than they business living with Valkyrus
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>>85533501
How's the prize thing gonna work out anyways, you'll just ask for the address and send over the thing?
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pls r8 and make suggestions m8s
especially for my extra deck and side deck
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>>85534891
Delete.
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>>85535013
kek
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>>85533150
Not like we have Terraforming....
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>>85535291
Yeah, but you can't banish Terraforming for another Infernoid summon.
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I'm just returning to the game after a short break. Why isn't time space trap hole played more? I'm missing something here since it looks like a really good card.
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>>85535485
Yes you can...
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>>85535563
None of us are as clever as you
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How do I make a good monarch deck? I got schooled by one and really liked the deck type.
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>>85535670
Fuck you.

I'm just asking a question since i dont know shit about the current state of the game.
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>>85535854
The lp cost is inefficient, there are better ways to prevent summons, and you can just use floodgates instead
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>>85532582
all dolls need to do is keep MSTing tool until they win and they will outresource them and win.
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That feel when you're down to 600 lifepoints and your opponent has completely overextended and has 5 big dick monsters on the field

that feel when Vylon swarm into Omega and SHArk

That feel when you opponent tries to do something and is instantly negated and destroyed via Omega

that feel when immediate surrender right after that last feel

Playing Vylons can be pretty good sometimes
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If you could make one emergency change to the ban list before NECH comes what would it be?

>Heavy Storm to 1
That's all we fucking need.
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>>85521561

ayyyy lmao

>>85522006

Fuck off, Bonbun. That doesn't even have my face on it.

>>85523613

Y'all down to get fucking scrubbed up tonight? Didn't think so.

>>85534891

Okay. Here we go.

17 monsters is the correct ratio for Blackwings but you have the monster line up all wrong. Drop a Sirocco, Vayu and Kochi. Add Steam, Zephyros and another Gale (Steam lets you go into Leo off of Shura or if you normal summon Steam and special Bora. Zephyros gives access to insane combos and is the best Blackwing monster hands down, and it's retarded to not run the second Gale).

3 Black Sonic is just straight up bad. I run 1 as tech so if you want to do that, it's up to you. Battle traps haven't been good for a while. 3 Icarus Attack is a bad ratio to run alongside 2 Delta Crow. Either go 2/2 or 3/1 with Icarus as the card at 3. No Solemn Warning upsets me.

Mystical Space Typhoon is a card that's better off in the side since you want unfair trades with Icarus Attack rather than simplifying the field with a 1 for 1.

God, this whole deck is a mess and I can be here all night explaining why. Just net deck me, experiment with that and change it according to how you feel. pic related.
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>>85536776
>Heavy Storm to 1

In other words, you are bad.

Stop being a scrub.
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>>85536776
Giant Trunade to 1
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>>85536776
Qliphort Tool to ONE
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How are spirti beasts and hermit yokai?
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what is the correct pronunciation of Qliphort?

Klee-Fort?
Kill-Fort?
Keel-Fort?
Quill-Fort?
Kwi-Loff?
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>>85536776
Card Destruction to 1
:^)
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>>85537168
Clifford.
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>>85536981
lol this scrub
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>>85537168
space-jeew
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>>85536776
Harpie's Feather Duster to 3

Bring on the artifact format
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>>85536515
Easier said than done, remember thatodd eyes, summoner's art are all played in 3 in space jews, along with numerous means of retrieving tool with advantage occasionally, so you're dealing with more than 3 tools here. All in all there is a maximum of about 15 cards that end in a tool becoming a problem again due to returning it to hand, or it being activated following the activation of that card, depending on what your ratios and choices are, not counting things like pot of duality which only returns tools (which is a 2 of as well for the most part). Space jews depend on your destroying them, not to say that this is the be all end all of how they will tower over dark jews but the point is "just mst them or dragon them" is not a solution, they have many outs to your mst and outs to your outs as well that they can access more efficiently than you can access yours as a shaddoll player.
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>>85536917
That all sounds like shit advice.
I'll just play a better deck since you don't seem to know how to play this game.
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>>85536987
Mediocre.

Spirit Beasts have a lack of OPT clause on their effects/can abuse Macro and Fissure. Youkai are just weird stun that's waiting for Divine Wind to ever go to 3.
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>>85537684
>duality
Meant pot of wealth.
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>>85537818
You forgot that BABY APELIO DOESN'T WORK WITH BIG APELIO, MEANING KONAMI HATES EVERYTHING YOU LOVE.
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>>85537684
OEPD is only at 2 in most decks.
Pot of Duality isn't run in Jewbots, you're probably thinking of Pot of Wealth, which isn't out yet.
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>>85537684
it doesn't matter how many searchers they have when you destroy all 3 tools unless they run garbage like qlimate change. Meanwhile shaddolls can dish out a lot of damage now with el-shaddoll fusion so if qliphorts don't open broken they will more than likely just get OTK'd by shaddolls. Also you can side ceasefire and chain strikes against them to sack easy wins, its easy racking up chain links in shaddolls.
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>>85537952
No one actually uses Towers and the trap kills everything bigger than them.

But that is annoying
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>>85536959
Cold Wave to 3
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>>85536959
royal tribute to 3
necrovalley to 1
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>>85538045
>its easy racking up chain links in shaddolls.
No kidding.
>Stare at the deck too long
>Suddenly your opponent is on Chain Link 5 and you didn't even do anything nor get a real chance to respond.
Fuck that deck.
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>>85537989
>Pot of Duality isn't run in Jewbots
Top kek
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>>85538054
I just wanted a on theme star eater that I could shit out at will, but that was apparently too much for konami.
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>>85538323
you can do it even easier in BA
>have 2 mat dante
>tribute for raiza
>4 chain links
>clip a few backrow
>chainstrike for 3200
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>>85537989
Yes, i meant pot of wealth, but fair enough, we can count that out. Remember that there is still the trap, 3 equip,3 SA, 3 tools and 2-3 odd eyes regardless, as far as the "how many do you need to hypothetically pop if they return their shit", which won't likely happen, but does give you an idea of how many times they can possibly recur tool. With pot of wealth, if we are talking universally here, and since i can only play online, as far as i am concerned, they are significantly better.
Also duality is pretty good in space jews, by the way
>>85538045
qlimate change is good though.
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>he doesn't run the only good R5 for the counter match.
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Bonbun talks about yugioh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcGPYxpPt6Q
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>>85539368
Ugly art.
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>>85539308
>Keeper of Armageddon is good
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>>85539403
It's pretty realistic atleast
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>>85539549
And that's why it's ugly.

If I want a VN with realistic art I'd go outside and talk to people.
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