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-LAST NEWS-
>SHO IS P5HERO
>ULTIMAX SPOILERS ARE HERE
>The Ultimax script has been ripped from the update!
>US version of Ultimax is dual audio for fights only, JP is full dual audio
>Marie and Adachi will be free for the first week of P4AU's release, Margaret isn't known at this point, but they're all on the disc already
>Persona Q will be adapted into a manga
>JP and US versions of P4AU have NO REGION LOCK
>English dub of P4AU recasts Margaret, Kanji, Naoto and Igor
>NA release date for P4AU is September 30th, Japan is August 28th, other regions TBA
>NA release date for PQ is November 25th, Japan was June 5th, Europe is November 28th

-GUIDES-
>General Persona Guide
http://pastebin.com/QPB3QuNm
>Persona 1 Guide
http://persona1.wikidot.com/start

-ARENA LINKS-
>Starter websites to learn:
http://www.brokentier.com/blogs/news/8362824-persona-4-arena-simple-character-guide
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?14134-P4A-Gameplay-Primer
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Persona_4:_Arena
http://mayonakamidnight.com/forum.php

-DOWNLOADS-
>Art, Guides, Music and more (Persona only, contains P4A/TUUSH story transcripts and sprite/texture/script rips)
http://pastebin.com/4e3U9j2S
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads (Persona and SMT)
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona/SMT image collection
http://www.mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Ultimax NEW MUSIC
https://www.mediafire.com/?k8cvoyw2hox81bn

-MANGA SCANS-
http://personascans.tumblr.com/
http://www.mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457

-TRANSLATED MANGA SCANS-
http://pastebin.com/CX8q1FLp

-ARENA PLAYERS MATCHUP DOC-
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6GZ6nt7cRyoWpR9_Bqyud8nCoDuLAcz-GcHyle71zQ/edit#gid=0

-P4U2 SPRITE/SOUND RIPS-
http://pastebin.com/PErC7Aew

-P4U2 Jack the Ripper's AiOP-
https://mega.co.nz/#!qI5XTDQa!N6Lj7SejCvE1WgU7B6wWUb-yEJcz0eI-AgUdQLPqqJk
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whoops i fucked up the last thread link

please try to bear it, actual last thread is >>78522046
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Girst for if you don't like Sho get out.
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How could Sho be the P5rotagonist? The player still has to name him!
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caution
you are now entering the newfag zone
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I want to romance men as Sho.
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How does Marie play in Ultimax?

My captcha has chie in it.
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>>78565770
Obviously he'll have amnesia

You'll meet Yu in the final dungeon and realize your actual name
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>>78565837
Give it a couple weeks
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Let's assume Sho is the P5 protagonist and Yu is the option superboss. What is Yu's gimmick?
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This is a better version of the P3 script posted earlier, not completely formatted but isn't an eyesore

http://pastebin.com/5adi3nUt
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Mr. and Mrs. Narukami for P5 "Working Parents" Social Link! Wonder what their Arcana would be.
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>>78565925
Same wild card persona switching like Margaret/Elizabeth
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>>78565993
Not gimmicky enough. One would expect it was going to happen.
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>>78565925
No idea, but he would either be using his max S.Link personas, or all IT's personas
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>>78565926
>Adachi bailing out Akihiko, Aegis, and Mitsuru singlehandedly

Woof.
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>>78566029
Okay, have him fight with the entire IT. A massive 8 vs 4 fight
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>>78565925
Switches between Izanagi and Magatsu Izanagi
Izanagi casts lightning, buffs, and healing, Magatsu Izanagi casts physicals, status effects, and instant kills
Every x number of turns, switches to Izanagi-no-Okami and kills you with Myriad Truths
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>>78565925
Your party members fall in love with him throughout the fight, causing you to gradually lose social links.
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>>78566078
They were all captured earlier and drained. Surprised Adachi bailed them out though
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>>78566126
Boring, especially with only Izanagis.

I hope you either get regular Izanagi or InO for completing his S.Link. Probably InO
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>>78565925
Wild Card, without a doubt. Uses either a super strong Izanagi or Izanagi-no-Ookami.
Might have an insta-kill attack [Myriad Truths] that triggers if you have a Persona with null-everything [sorta like Elizabeth/Demi-Fiend but not as strict on the rules?].
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>>78565926
>That Fuuka epilogue
>It's absoulutely nothing
Atlus please.
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>>78566170
Neat.
Oh, how about you can fight him several times, each time he has a different gimmick based on P4 bosses?
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>>78566228
>completing his S.Link
Don't even joke
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>>78565925
Every 5 turns you lose control of your protagonist and you have to watch a small animated clip of Sho sucking Yu's cock.
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>>78566365
>Margaret: Is that so? This encounter between you two will. one day give way to something irreplaceable.

What's more iireplacalble than a bond that can never be broken?
But It probably would be either fusion requests like with Maggie, to see how much he has grown, or the fights would be his S.Link.
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>>78566620
I can't believe I'm indecisive on that.
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>>78566795
I don't care. Yu can go through a meat grinder. After DAN, I never want to see him in any significant capacity again.
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>>78566893
What if Sho recovered like 50 HP after Yu climaxes?
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>>78566949
A literal semen demon?
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Persona 3 FES is asking if I want enhanced features like new personas and hard mode.

I'd be a casual if I didn't take these, right?
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>>78567008
Please do not spoil the plot twist in P5
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>>78567041
It's whether you want more information on them or not, you dink.
It probably won't mean much for someone who's started with FES, so you can skip it.
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>>78567059
I'm beary sorry scary beart, I won't mention Sho becoming a succubi. Sho bear with me.
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>>78567059
Thanks Mr Skeltal
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>>78567097
Oh, I thought it was an option because it said I'll most likely want them.
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>>78567117
You skipped "I won't claws any more troube"
Are you implying you will still claws trouble?
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>>78567135
Again, it's like that because it assumes you've played the original first.
The changes are ingame whether or not you read about them.
Hope you have fun.
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>>78567224
But I have hands.
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>>78567274
What a HANDSome excuse, hope you are ready to rest in pieces.
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>>78567364
Sorry Izanagi but I'm not your son. I'm not even remotely hot.
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>>78566795
>1412312414511
nice try
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>>78567527
What?
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>>78567527
Go to bed Anon.
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>>78529616
Sony Sound Forge will help you.

>>78547721
But I'm Polish.


Also, Palette 3 sheet done
Sorry I didn't post most yesterday but my internet went out so I just decided to go sleep earlier.

Also if I can ask a favor, can you rename "-P4U2 Jack the Ripper's AiOP-" in the OP to simply "-P4U2 Jack the Ripper's English Patch + DLC Unlock-" for the next OP?

Also replace
-P4U2 SPRITE/SOUND RIPS-
http://pastebin.com/PErC7Aew

With
-P4U2 IMAGE/SPRITE/SOUND/MOVIE/PALETTE RIPS-
http://pastebin.com/iE2Q1uQn

Slightly altered name and new pastebin that I updated with palettes and about to add movie links.
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>>78567527
>1412312414511

1+4-2-3+1-2+4-1-4+5+1+1 = 5

That poster is an Atlus employee spoiling persona 5 to us.

I got you faggot. Reveal yourself.
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>>78567527
there is no winning with you guys if he doesnt edit the file name at all he will get shit like
>sample
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>>78567713
Speaking of palettes does anyone have any remote idea what Minazuki's 15 is supposed to be? His 9 is Reiji but I can't figure out 15.
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>>78567868
Booberry
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>>78567868
Shit I quoted the wrong guy. I meant to quote Jack.
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>>78566949
>We were both given the same "power," but his evolved down a different path than mine had. I can tell that it's only grown stronger since the last time I saw him. And while that power pulls at me, I can feel it squeezing me dry. The torrent of power becomes a giant sword that pierces Hi-no-Kagutsuchi, and its body shatters into pieces.

>squeezing me dry
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>>78567948
Nope, also here's Palette 4. Now I'm off to eat breakfast. Will continue with palettes once I'm back.
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>>78568201
Yukiko reminds me of Umi from Magic Knight Rayearth.
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>>78568130
Just like my yaoi fanfics.
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Arc Revo 2014. Shabrys confirmed for belonging in the toilet.


it says please wait
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>>78568201
Ken's design is so bland that he looks like a different character with different pallettes.
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>>78565837
items, fast and large normals, ranged specials, weather does something
that's all we know
she looks like a mix of ranged and rushdown, kind of like Rise
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>>78568201
Yukari's persona looks so out of place.
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>>78568201
I hope you have a good breakfast
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>>78565926
Is there one for P4 yet?
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>>78567703
does that include all the character sprites in an actually viewable format?
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Downloading Ultimax at 110kbps is a fucking hell.
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>>78569690
and then you have to deal with ps3 install times
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http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/09/why-persona-3-is-better-than-persona-4-readers-feature-4826538/
BTFO, P4shitters
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>>78569736
Isn't it optional? Arena's was.
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>>78569146
No, they are in their original formats that we can't view for now.

>>78569071
It was okay, toasts with white cheese and honey.

On a side note, Sho's 27 looks like Yu, but his Persona palette is Nyarlathotep-disguised-as-Kandori's-Persona.

Palettes 5 sheet is next.
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>>78569874
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>>78569870

If P3 is so good why isn't it being milked hard like P4?
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>>78569870
didn't expect to see an article like that in the metro

although i guess it's an op-ed
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>>78569870
>All this text
>People still being mad that P4 will always be more popular than P3
I don't care which is better. Why must people write their opinions when it doesn't truly matter. As>>78569946 said, it's clear on why which is the most milked and payed for by the fucking fans franchise
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>>78569870
>Persona 3 has a default love interest and that’s a good thing. Whether or not you chose to romance Yukari, it is clear that she is the default romantic option for the protagonist. She is the first member of the cast you meet, the first to witness your persona abilities awaken, and there is implied tension between the two of you regardless of who you choose.

is this a troll holy fuck
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MINAZUKI shits on Sho so bad
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>>78569997
>payed
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>>78569946
To be fair, it kind of was. Someone post the list of all the spinoffs; both P3 and P4 had 15+
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>>78570056
They're both named Minazuki though so just use their proper names (Sho and SHO)
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>>78570012
kek stay mad Liz/Aigisfag

>>78569997
But fans buy both of them? did you not see the blu ray sells for the movie?
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>>78569946
It was. The game came out in 2006. It was being milked hard until 2010, then P4 got out of hand, now they are milking both.

>>78570124
No, you shut the fuck up faggot.
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>>78569896
Shit, that purple and green look ugly.
Where did that purple come from anyway?
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>>78570207
>It was being milked hard until 2010

P4 came out in early 2009
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>P3 will never be more popular than P4
At least it's getting attention. It's a fine game. Wished people would understand this
The spring of birth and the later movies are really good. Glad they are making them
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>>78570250
Middle of 2008 actually
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>>78569896
shit his swords look like when an items texture doesnt load in source games
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>>78570238
27, 28 and 29 have placeholders which look like Palettes 1/2 for almost all characters, but a few characters like SHO seem to have actual working palettes for them, but it may be unfinished.
Like I said, I managed to force all DLC to unlock, even stuff that's not even out yet.

>>78570207
>No, you shut the fuck up faggot.
They're literally called Sho and SHO in the game you dumb faggot.
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Nerf Teddie
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>>78570310
Spring of Birth could have been much better actually. I went in with higher expectations than I wanted to though.
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>>78570376
they're calling them sho and minazuki in the localization
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>>78570376
Well, it does look unfinished. Too bad the green is gonna stay.
Thanks
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So, I've decided to start a new file of Persona 3 FES, after not playing P3 in about half a decade. What should I name MC?
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>>78570701
Name him Bob. After me Anon
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>>78570480
He warned you, anon, but you didn't listen.
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>>78570480
Should of not spoiled and begged for forgiveness.
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>>78570778
I said I was beary sorry
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>>78570701
Charles Waldo
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Nerf S. Mitsuru
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>>78570778
>Rigging the brackets because some gaijins ripped the game's script before it was out
Fucking Mori.
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>>78570701
Jamie Molloy.
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>>78570535
The animation is unlike most anime out there not cheap at all, and most of the background are really well made, plus all the music and throwback to the game made me really like it
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>>78565684
Anyone wanna make an Arena lobby?
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>>78570376
No, they're Sho and Minazuki
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>>78570546
They're both called Sho Minazuki in the localization actually. Just with reverse colors. Sho has Sho in red and Minazuki in white, SHO has SHO in white and Minazuki in red.

>>78570701
Makoto Yuki, his movie name.
Alternatively Minato Arisato, his manga name.

And here's Palette sheet 5.
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>>78570918
DOES ANYONE WANT TO PLAY ULTIMAX? FUCK ARENA
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>>78570913
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>>78570958
How does it feel to be wrong? >>78570965
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>>78571000
Still better than a lot of long feature
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>>78571000
that's a ton better than the shitty P4 animes
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>>78571051
I just played through the story
SHO is referred to as Minazuki, and Sho is referred to as Sho
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>>78571108
quality is the selling point of the p4 animes
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>>78571167
ah, so it's ironic
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>>78571189
you bet
those jokesters
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>>78571167
Glad to see the standard of quality hasn't changed from the first anime.
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>>78571297
first anime still holds the crown because of this
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>>78571115
They're still both called Sho Minazuki in the character select. I swear you people need fucking visual proof for everything.
Give me a moment to take screenshots.
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>>78571282
What is with the anime and everyone having eyes super far apart? I thought it was just Adachi.

>>78571386
>Not posting double Chie

But holy shit that Naoto.
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>>78571408
I already know that, but they are referred to as Sho and Minazuki in the story, and Atlus USA is officially referring to the characters that way as well.
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>>78571386
but there's still some competition, so don't count second anime out yet
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Any news on the EUR release date?
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>>78571637
September 30th because it's region free
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>only ranked match i can find in vanilla is a jap yu who bodies me
suffering
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>>78571667
if you want a change of pace I can body you with my Yosuke
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Why are people saying Sho's gonna be the P5 protag
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>>78571437
Drawing is hard
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>>78571736
if you are who i think you are you bodied me enough about a month ago ;_;
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>>78571768
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>>78571768
He is labeled as P5HERO is P4U2 files
In P4 Story Mode he gets a Wild Card and is a new guest in the VR.

Every thread, at least 10 times
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>>78571768
That's ridiculous.
Where did you hear that?
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>>78571781
>Yosuke's mangled hands
>Teddie's giant hand and skinny legs
>those faces
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>>78571896
HOLY SHIT DOJIMAS HAND
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>>78571989
>>78571896
Shit I didn't notice those 6 fingers
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>>78571896
two teenage girls, out in the world
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>>78572090
twang
twong
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>>78572184
stop my poor heart can't take it

>Captcha has Margaret in it

SHE KNOWS
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The better question: why people assumed Sho could be P5 protag right after he was revealed? Mind that it was even before P5 teaser.
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>>78572381
Shut the fuck up about this already. we'll know everything this Monday after Sony's conference when P5 is revealed for PS4
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>>78572381
a lot of people were joking
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>>78572381
Red and it was mostly jokes.
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>>78572381
The fucking hair.
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>>78572475
And red fog.
P4U2 is all red.
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So in a little over two weeks, this general will likely see it's biggest shitstorm. Where will you be? Will you glee the thread, take some popcorn and watch /pg/ burn or will you be one of the combatants.
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>>78572610
>So in a little over two weeks, this general will likely see it's biggest shitstorm

...why
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>>78572610
*flee
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>>78572630

P4AU2 US release, I guess? Dunno why it will be a huge shit storm.
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>>78572610
Either watch /pg/ burn or be one of the combatants. Depends on how much new info we will get.
Maybe even switching between the two.
>>78572630
TGS. Atlus has a booth/stage/whatever and there will be a nico livestream.
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>>78572447
>>78572530

I didn't mean anything teased in Arena, I was talking about "You are slave." teaser. Ultimax and Sho were revealed earlier.
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>>78572736
>TGS. Atlus has a booth/stage/whatever and there will be a nico livestream.

[Citation needed]
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When is TGS?
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>>78572772
Atlus doesn't have a booth, but we assume they'll be under Sega because they're owned by them now.
No idea where he got the nico stream from.
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>>78572782

in a little over two weeks
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>>78572610
If it's my worst case scenario, I'll probably be shitposting with tears in my eyes.
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>>78572798
Yeah, I thought as much. There's nothing conclusive at all.
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>>78572798
>we
>assume
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>>78572798
Sonic x Persona
Persona Kart
Persona Dance all... oh wait
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>>78572772
From the last thread
>Persona Stalker Club will be at Tokyo Game Show . Atlus Stage Event and Nico Livestream.
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>>78572838
I've seen more than one person make the same assumption, so yes, we.
Not everyone, but more than one person.
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>>78572892

You still don't speak for them, cakeboy.
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"persona 5 announcement soon, a lot of people will be surprised"
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>>78572838
Why you gotta be so difficult? You know otherwise?
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>>78572772
Latest PSC, they announced they'll have a stage event.
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>>78572610
Worst case scenario would be Sho is the protagonist; however Atlus has never been known to reveal persona protagonist's early as far as I'm aware. On the plus side it's a departure from persona 4 either way (I swear to God if he goes to Yaso...), so I can stomach it.
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>>78572876
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>>78572950
for the last time, that was fucking unconfirmed

it's anecdotal at best
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>>78572736
Too bad none of us have nico premium
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>>78572973
>Why you gotta be so difficult?

I am tired of people like you pushing opinions and speculation under "we" when it should be "I"
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>>78573012
I do.
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>>78573025
Why? If multiple people have the same believe, "we" is more accurate.
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>>78573098
we think you're a fag
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>>78573098
Because it starts the shit we've been going through the past few days with people saying anyone not of a specific opinion isn't "part of /pg/" and is from some foreign land.
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>>78573098

Because you don't speak for them, I just said this. Keep up.
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>>78573152
I'm not speaking for them, I'm associating myself with others who have already made their beliefs known
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>>78573179
>I'm not speaking for them
>but I am speaking for them
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Woah, I'm kind of sad FeMC didn't end up with this kind of wild ponytail.
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>>78573098
Unless you're royalty, you don't get to do it, so settle down prince chucklefuck

>>78573179
you're doing this on an anonymous messageboard - you don't even know who the others are. it's pointless
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We & I general
/wig/
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>Still no source
>Still no Persona models in source anywhere
Fuck.
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>>78573313
>no awkward SFM persona porn

Kill me
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Good to know that Chinese on PS3ISO are already passing my translation as theirs, down to renaming the filename to remove credit to me. Yeah yeah pointless whining, I'll stop now.

Also my good friend Gracek is now making a superior unpacker (or rather, a bash that will use original unpacker and parse it with data from decryted eboot) for the game, one that will maintain original filenames and directories. All thanks to decrypting the eboot.

>>78571483
I know as much, they're referred to as Sho and Minazuki in Japanese script as well actually. Even the announcer calls them like that too. But on character select they're both named Sho Minazuki in BOTH English and Japanese, pic related.

>>78572610
A mix of both, after HAVE THE STARTED THE FIRE?


Oh and updated the image/sprite/movie/etc pastebin from here >>78567703 with movie rip link (both japanese and english).
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>>78573371
what's a bash
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> But on character select they're both named Sho Minazuki in BOTH English and Japanese, pic related.
well that's simply because that's both of their full names
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>>78573343
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>>78573461

>>78573371
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>>78567703
why adachi look like edward elric
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>>78573595
Because that's precisely who he's referencing with that palette.
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Why is pink Jesus so pure?
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>>78573428
Bash, a l33t way of saying command script for cygwin.
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>>78573836
>pure
you keep saying that, trying to convince yourself
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>>78574196
She was only as much of a slut as you made her. Stop trying to bang teenage boys, okay?
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>>78574290
she is canonically slut
oh wait, she isn't canon, my bad
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>>78574290
people are being surprisingly lenient about a femc fag posting
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>>78574290
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>>78574346
>Implying that will upset me
I know she isn't canon, but that doesn't diminish her cuteness.
I'm just looking for excuses to post stuff from the P3P artbook.
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wait. so, no persona sho isnt the edgy one - but the shitty pun one?

preorder cancelled
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>>78574678
no, persona sho is the protective one
personaless sho is edgy and shitty pun one
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Oh and I just managed to confirm that Palettes 27, 28 and 29 aren't working properly yet since they are future Japanese magazine exclusives.

25 (current Dengeki) is called x_chara_color_collabo_01
26 (current Famitsu) is called x_chara_color_collabo_02
There's still 3 more that aren't out yet.
27 which is x_chara_color_collabo_03
28 which is x_chara_color_collabo_04
29 which is x_chara_color_collabo_05

This means that there will be 3 more Japanese merchandise exclusive DLCs. This also explains why palettes 27/28/29 are unfinished and/or placeholders.
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>>78574709
you got them mixed up faggot. edgy persona show killed chie, yosuke and kicked adachi's ass
shit character
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Why did they make Junpei the worst character in Ultimax
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>>78574834
Because he's the worst character in Persona 3.
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>>78574803
Minazuki just wants to help
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>>78574834
I thought he shared the same tier as Liz and Labrys?
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>>78574871
But that's not Ken
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>>78574803
no, I've played the entire story mode
he didn't kill anyone, just put them out of commission
Minazuki just wants to protect Sho and give him what he wants, and will do whatever it takes to accomplish that goal.
Sho makes shitty puns and wants to destroy the world because Ikutsuki was mean to him so now he hates everyone.
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>>78574946
Junpei is the most useless piece of shit in the Persona series, Ken at least make the plot go forward
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>>78574992
You f-ing what, mate?
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>>78574992
>Ken at least make the plot go forward
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>>78574957
I haven't gone through all the transcripts yet, what happens to Minazuki and the Plume of Dusk post-game?
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>>78575079
Minazuki dies by keeping Sho from being completely consumed by Kagutsuchi
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>>78574925
Don't know about Labrys, but I'm pretty sure Liz is better than him
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>>78574992
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>>78575136
Wait, really?

That's shit.
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>>78575079
Minazuki dissappears, Sho inherits his persona.

>>78575162
>Liz
>better than anyone
she's the bottom of the barrel
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>>78575218
>tfw main Liz in Arena

Maybe I should just give up on da man and go back to her...
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>>78575162
Most people still consider Liz the worst in the game, and Lab/Junpei slightly above her.
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>>78575307
She's pretty good in awakening, but that's about it
her Ziodyne shooting twice and paralyzing is annoying as shit
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>>78575167
> Adachi Reformed
> mfw this is actually a thing now
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>>78575167
I was kind of sad Ultimax didn't have most of Adachi's expressions from Persona 4.
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>>78575375
Wait, her Ziodyne paralyses now? You're shitting me, it was annoying enough in the first place
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>>78574992
He saves Chidori by his sheer presence. He is like Jesus.
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>>78575162
Liz is the worst.

>mfw they could have fixed her
>instead just make her worse
>then insert her sister in and make her OP just to rub it in

Arcjew works.
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>>78575496
No one cares about Chidori
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>>78575459
SB Maziodyne always paralyzed.
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>>78575406
The materials are available, make up your own expressions
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I want slut FeYu smut.
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>>78575406
From a VN standpoint, Ultimax has awful scene direction

>>78575459
only in awakening
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>>78575532
I know they are, but some of his darker/end-game expressions aren't there.
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>>78575375
She's great in awakening.

Too bad in awakening she has...what? 2.5k? 3.5k?

So basically any confirm kills her. Yeah...I can see why a character based around getting into awakening and who has almost no defensive options and WILL die from a single touch in that state tends to suck.
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>>78574453
do you have the link for the artbooks? I'm too dumb to find them in the pastebin, if they are even there
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>>78575516
>Mitsuru and Yu probably the most powerful characters in their respective teams
>Best characters in the game
>Elizabeth supposed to be more powerful than both teams put together
>Worst character in the game

What the fuck were Arcsys thinking making her such garbage in the first place
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>>78575716
>making Elziabeth stronger than everyone combined
then she'd be a boss and you cuntfaggots would whine about "m-muh fighter"
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>>78575641
isnt she supposed to use a super to put herself into awakening then use her heal spell?
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>>78574834
They made the mistake of creating a character from a failed archetype of fighting game characters.

I don't know the technical name but it consists of characters who are designed to be awful until they reach a specific in game requirement (in Junpeis case it's getting his victory cry buff). I'm not sure how developers can't tell this is an awful idea

>Character A is strong at all times
>character B designed to be weak 90% of the time and as strong as character A 10% of the time
>why does character B suck?

I honestly don't think Junpei would be top top tier if he had victory cry at all times.
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>>78575540
It's out there, but there's nobody I want to see a female Yu bang. Adachi or Dojima would just be too creepy and Persona 4 doesn't have any shotas.
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>>78575641
She has 2.8k, but also the awakening defense boost, so she'll survive most BnBs, but any fancy stuff with meter can still kill her
she can also heal

if she awakens on the other side of the screen though, be ready for a bad time
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>>78575716
They wanted to make a unique snowflake character. Basically inventing a new archetype.

They failed and the result was a character they cannot figure out how to balance without making her OP. So they'd rather just keep her shit forever. I truly believe Margaret was made as a sort of "2.0" of Liz. A "back to the drawing board" if you will.
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>>78575716
ArcJews clearly hate my waifu.
Didn't mean to post with trip, sorry.
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>>78575790
In the Arcade version, she is.

http://youtu.be/Lt_zS5F1DVU?t=42s

She does crazy damage.
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>>78575795
Junpei with permanent victory cry would definitely be top tier
his clean hits extend combos, and he regens health and life
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>>78575307
>Liz was one of my mains since P4U1 day 1
>Worst of my mains by far
>Most of the 10 Liz players in the world are already migrating to Margo
I'll still be here, niggers. I'm not quitting on best velvet.
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>>78575923
>regens health and life
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>>78575982
meter
you know what I mean
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>>78575790
She doesn't need to be the strongest.

But making her essentially joke tier is problematic

>>78575845
Again, don't get touched. I can see how a "do not get touched or you lose" character sucks. The other issue with Liz is she excells in nothing.

>s-she has damage
And several characters have better damage than her....while also not having shitty defense and shit health. Why would I play Liz so I can do 6k combos with the trade off being I am a glass cannon, when I COULD just play S Chie and be able to do 7k off 2A AND have like 12k fucking health, access to my awakening supers right away, meter carry over etc.

Lizs issue is she does nothing. She is a master of nothing. Anyone in the cast can do Liz better than Liz.
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>>78575971
You and me both friend. ArcJews need to fix the fucking balance on Liz because it's ridiculous. I'm not asking for SS tier but B at least would be nice.
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>>78575923
But would he be overpowered?

I don't think so.

A character that has to achieve his "good stance" should be the best in that stance. When Junpei hits VC he should flat out be the best character in the game.
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>>78575816
I don't know about you but it's pretty hot to me. Female Yu teasing Adachi to get a rough dicking or playing wife to Dojima.

Also there's Shu.
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Christ, Yu's DP feels even more bullshit than before
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>>78576052
I gave up. I can only take the suffering so long

>mfw people I know tell me she's totally not that bad and that because the best player on Earth can win with her, I could too if I just got good
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>>78576504
It's disgusting. But I ain't giving up on Liz ever. Only on faggots like those people you know.
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Apparently p4D might be shown at Monday's conference. I'm still looking for proof though, so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>78576389
>playing wife to Dojima

Dude, he's Yu's uncle on top of being about 25 years older. Shu is a little no-friends cheater faggot. Dojima would probably murder Adachi for hooking up with his underage niece.

Adachi wouldn't want an unpure girl, anyways, and all female protagonists are sluts.
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Wow, r/Megaten is fucking awful!
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>>78576818
>going to reddit
Found your problem.
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>>78576849
I honestly thought, "How different from us could they possibly be?". I was proven wrong.
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>>78576712
>not into niece-uncle incest.

weak. Adachi would fuck any girl that would look at him, anyway.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/2exr4a/persona_5_protagonist_possibly_found_in_ripped/

It's GameFAQs 2.0

They are calling it "a troll by Atlus".
In fact, they said STEVEN being called "Hawking" in files is clearly a troll.
BECAUSE THE CHARACTER TOTALLY ISN'T BASED ON HAWKING RIGHT?
Imbeciles.
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Can we not discuss reddit?

It's a cancerous place. We get it.
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How much do you love your waifu, /pg/?
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Hey guess what faggots: we're getting an OVA with the accomplice ending.
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>>78577763
I love her enough to throw her in a TV so she'll be mine alone for eternity.
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