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>Official Website
https://playoverwatch.com

>The Oversheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/0HaMLiu7

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Overwatch DPS Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D4jOtaosiZoM2VA9IjRRPaiMbTTZtPrD1d8mK23DPa0

>Ana "Legacy" Comic
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us/legacy

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hana song
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Tracer
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First for junkrat needs nerfed
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>>148617971
What the fuck is wrong with your link? And nobody will link to Reddit. Fuck off.
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Repositioning.
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Reinhardt
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xth for resurrection is a flawed mechanic
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>>148618075
fourth for nuh-uh
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nerf ana
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I already have 5k g in anticipation for the new skins, hope they're actually decent
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>>148618103
then why did our lord and savior jesus christ do it?

checkmate atheists
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>>148618037
>no previous thread
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>>148618107
>can shutdown an entire choke point by LMBing
Sure, bro
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>>148618167
no he waited his 3 days to come back in the spawn room
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>Mei and McCREEE still broken on console
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When full charge, and graviton surge'd some fags, what should I do, M1 or M2?
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>>148618192
>I'm allergic to bombs!
They do tickle damage if you counterpick right
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>>148618257
m2 if low charge m1 if high charge
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>>148618163
Jelly. I'm a little shy of 2000, but hopefully I'll be around 2500 once they actually arrive.
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>>148618257
M1 for big targets
M2 for fast little niggas
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CneHovZUIAAm_Ug.jpg:large
Would you play as Ana if she was a bit younger?
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why is hanzo listed as a high skill hero? he's way easier than widow
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>>148618075
Wrong
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>>148618287
His grenades are basically the grenades in Halo, but much faster and an infinite amount of them. But keep chugging that Blizzard jizz, bro.
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>>148618192
>he can't count to 5
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HEY GUYS WHAT IF WE GAVE A CHARACTER WITH 240 DPS 300HP, THE BEST MOBILITY IN THE GAME, THE ABILITY TO LITERALLY GET OUT OF ANY BAD SITUATION EVER AND THE SMALLEST HITBOX IN THE GAME? ISN'T THAT 1000% BALANCED? XDDDD FUND IT!!
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>>148618395
Wat just happened?
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>>148618451
>300HP
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>>148618451
>300 hp
wow anon did you know how fast you were memeing?
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>>148618425
He has instant reload
>slurp
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>>148618402
this game doesn't have splash damage, just walk around them

or pick any of the champs that have mobility, which is more than half the cast
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>>148618075
>hey guys what if we gave this high power damage dealer who doesnt have to aim with a snare and a high damage suedo shotgun ability a passive that deals most champions whole health pool when he dies?
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>>148618501
>>148618502
I mean, really its 299 but he is right
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>>148618492
The enemy team couldn't handle Junkrat's banter
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>>148618501
>>148618502

It is essentially 300, if you can't press e not to die you must be clinically retarded
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>>148618395
>Ghost
How can anyone play with a name like that? It's lame no matter how ironic or unironic you claim it to be.
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>>148618524
>game doesn't have splash damage
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>>148618451
>240 DPS

She has a 240 damage clip that takes 1 second to discharge and 1 second to reload
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>>148618502
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>>148618257
I don't even know why people are saying M1 at all.

Unless you can finish someone low with a quick zap I don't see why you wouldn't want to use an AOE ABILITY when they're all bunched up.
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>>148618583
>he doesn't like ghosts
What a faggot
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>>148618010
>room mates are faggot nerds
>always ask why i dont play with them
>finally break and play with them
>all they do is jack each other off in chat
>they call me a faggot the whole time
>literally half voice chat is them screaming into the mic, no words, just screaming
>depressed one always fishing for pity compliment by saying "he wants to die"
>they all vote for each other for plays of the game
>even when im the only one on our team with a card they'll make an excuse not to vote for me
>they ask why i never invite them to parties
mfw
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>>148618583
it's okay to get spooked sometimes anon
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REIN'S HAMMER SWING DOES TOO MUCH DAMAGE, FUCKING HELL BLIZZARD.


ONE SHOT PIN MOVE.
HAMMER THAT SWINGS FOR LIKE 100 DAMAGE IN A HUGE FUCKING CONE.
A SHIELD THAT LETS YOU WIN GAMES EASILY.
A KNOCKDOWN THAT IS A GREAT SET UP TOOL.

THIS HERO IS A JOKE..
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>>148618697
Agreed, ghosts are cool
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>>148618758
Reaper laughs at you,right next to a chuckling Pharah
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>no juri han skin for d.va
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>>148618257
spam M2
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>>148618402
>keep chugging that Blizzard jizz, bro
I would, but Trashmau5 is my main
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>>148618826
>no juri in my bed every night
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> be me
> played Reaper
> teammate Tracer was running in front of me
> That jiggling ass...
> Got headshot because if was distracted by Tracer's ass
NERF THAT ASS! Too op!
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i know mccree is supposedly the hard counter to genji/tracer, so why can't i ever kill them? is it a matter of git gud?
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I want to mindbreak Widowmaker.
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>>148618906
flashband>headshot>fan
guaranteed kill any day
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There you have it /owg/!
Reinhardt officially wins the Husbando Poll!
What will you do to commemorate this glorious moment?
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>>148618257
m1 for big and slow moving targets : turrets, roadhog, reinhard, fellow tanks and etc

m2 for when they group up or when up against a quick mover like tracker or genji, play like a grenade launcher: dont aim at them aim at the ground where theyre going
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>>148618826
>>148618862
>tfw I keep pronouncing Juri as "Yuri" despite my primary language being English
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>>148618826
I love that pyscho bitch...She's hot AF and probably good at footjobs too
> mfw no foursome with Juri, Cammy and Laura
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>>148618906

Pretty much. If tracer or genji get close, flash into M1 headshot. At range, a tracer usually recalls after getting hit once in the head, or sometimes the body.
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>>148618958
keep playing him
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>Team has 4 Anas
>Pick Soldier
>Get gold medal in healing
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>>148618906
Their hitboxes are too small for a fan outside of 1m range to be reliable with the new damage
Any Genji/Tracer worth shit will bolt away as soon as you start landing M1s

McCree is basically useless now
Just play Mei, she counters everything
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>>148618451
>best mobility in the game
>can't fly, can't perma sprint, can't double jump, can't even climb a fucking wall and has to go around to find stairs like a filthy pleb
how does that even make sense in your head?
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>>148618958
>Torb
>single vote
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well the kids are out of school and ranked is going to be shit
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>>148619089
swedes are so cucked im surprised even one of them voted
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>>148618451
>Best mobility in the game

That would be Genji or Lucio.
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>>148619147
Doesn't school start back up next month?
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>>148618758
Dont get pinned
75 damage
Shoot the sheild, it crumbles in seconds
Its his ult. Most other heroes would kill you
Play reaper
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>>148619147
i would rather have little kids playing this game than old men you know why

this game comes down to reactions, and kids have the upperhand here there is no mechanical skill or great strategy going on here. what a shit game desu
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>Scatter Arrow: Scatter Arrows bounce around potentially hitting enemies in the process. The ability requires a lot of skill and it will take a lot of practice to master landing hits with this deadly ability.
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Will the meta ever be bearable enough for competitive to be fun? I want to leave QP behind but as it is, I hate that so many heroes are just left to "never pick in any situation" status.
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>>148619202
My 60 year old dad would kick your ass in any fps any day.
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>>148618906

I can kill mediocre Tracers with him or mediocre Genjis if I make sure to wait for his deflect before flashing him.

But good Tracers? I don't see how I'd even manage to flash them.
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I'm really pissed right now
>solo queued all the way to rank 71
>play in a group with my friends
>we lose 7 matches in a row, win 2 matches, then lose 2 more
>go down to rank 65
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>>148619246
I don't get how people can't appreciate both.
I need QP to warm up before competitive anyway.
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>>148619246
next patch
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>>148619049
If you have more than two Anas on your team in the PTR, you won't get any healing. I guarantee it.

>pick Reinhardt
>team picks three Anas on attack
>none of them shoot from behind my shield
>spam I Need Healing until they get the message
>"I can't heal you if you keep moving around."
>"I just died."
>"Come over here so I can see you."

Bonus:
>Zenyatta: "It's just the PTR."
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>>148619202
>this game comes down to reactions
you do know blizz is going for the "WE WANT THE GENERAL AUDIENCE" route right?

you can be decent with a decent amount of the hero pool just by aiming at the general direction of enemies and spamming left click
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>>148616321
gib battle.net id
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>>148619246
The way the game is designed means that solo queue will always be a shitshow. You can have fun on a 6 man team though. Literally the only skill that matters is communicating with teammates you trust. Any sort of solo queue is just to practice aiming, it will never ever ever be "competitive".
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Is Zenyatta going to be more viable in comp after the patch?
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>playing as torbjorn
>aggressively teabag people when i kill them
>shit all over their zarya particularly hard
>win numbani defense easily
>me: "gg 2 ez"
>zarya: "stfu"
>some cuckold on my team: "hey man that's uncalled for"
>mfw i get POTG, call them butt hurt shitters, LMFAO at them, get 4 gold medals and leave before they can respond

who /bm/ here
who /mischievous/ here
who /70%+winrate/ here
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>attack
>playing against two Torbjorns
>the turrets are on the opposite points of the choke so attacking one exposes you to the other
>my team is Symmetra, Tracer, Reaper, McCree, Soldier all of whom just run into turret fire
>I'm playing Zarya and destroying the turrets with M2 and trying to keep my teammates alive with shields
>die to the rest of the enemy team focusing me while my teammates are faffing about
>teammates don't use openings I create

>defense
>playing with two Torbjorns
>the turrets are next to each other so attacking one with splash damage destroys the other
>enemy team is Zarya, Hanzo, Pharah, Soldier, Zenyatta, Junkrat all of whom are cornerpeek destroying turrets
>I'm playing Reinhardt trying to protect the front line and the turrets since the rest of my team are two Hanzos and a Mercy
>die to the enemy team focusing me while my teammates are nowhere to be found
>points are lost the second I die

These are literally the last two games I played. Playing with shitters is suffering.
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>>148618075
second for git gud, sub20 mouthbreather
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>>148618903
i bet her shit hole smells wonderful family.
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>>148619464
>it will never ever ever be "competitive".
I don't even care for competitive, I just want to play with teammates that are actually trying, and to not have to deal with stupid team comps.
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>>148618758
He's a melee character how the fuck is he gonna punish people for getting into his range? With a Bitch slap? Anything outside of his range you can make him into your bitch and any reinhardt that goes for melee kills first is fucking bad and will make his team lose.

His shield is easy to break with some concentrate fire other ways include junkrat, bastions or symmetra and her ball of doom.

His ult well that's on you it is a team game after all if no one covers your ass expect to get fucked by him or his teammates.
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>>148618906
McCree countering anyone is a meme. Flash + M1 to the head works but that's pretty much all you have. FtH is fucking garbage and you're outclassed by everyone in the Offense category.

A good Tracer never really commits enough to get flashed and dances around healthpacks. If she wants she can just go bother someone else and there goes any validity in your pick unless you're doing well as a team.

I don't really play much Genji so I can't really give an opinion. Genji is just as slippery as Tracer and I've seen good Genji players predict flash and dash without even blowing their block.
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>>148618972
>this much bad taste
Juri and Chun Li are the only God tier sf waifus anon
>Laura
jesus christ anon who hurt you
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>>148619551
sounds like the common thread here is you, shitter.
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>>148619339
Every enemy Zenyatta i met in ptr was like a god of life and death.
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>>148619470
He is going to be a STAPLE pick anon.
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>>148619551
Can be worst at least your symmetra didn't send you and the rest of your team off the fucking cliff with her teleporter in tibet.
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okay lads, who is the waifu worth fighting for
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>>148619259

You should be able to land M1s and outdamage tracers at range. If they are coming close to headshot you, then you should be close enough to flashbang them.
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>>148619590
HEY
MIKE THE ROSS HIMSELF HAS SAID
"LAURA HAS GOOD CHARACTER DESIGN"
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>>148619590
> Chun Li
The most overrated whore of the franchise
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>>148619709
Tracer.
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>>148619725
you know I dont know Mike "gas the kikes" Ross well enough to say you're lying, so you might be lying
good read son
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>>148619709
Papa hog best husbando.
Junkrat best brateru
Mei best aunteru
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>use my ult
>enemy uses his ult
>my ult is countered
well this game is fun
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Why do people get so salty on Quick Play? It's not comp or anything like that. Is it because it's with other players?
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>>148619239
>"Aim at their feet" takes skill
>"Kill any tank in one hit" takes skill
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>>148619709
Blueberry butt lady of questionable no-scoping skill
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>>148618826
Good. Juri is just legitimately not attractive, there's something about her that makes her unappealing.
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>>148619709
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>>148619782
>use D.Va's ult
>Roadhog uses his ult and shoots my mech over the edge away from the point

I don't even know that was possible until now.
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>>148619793
because of morons like you who go

>its just quick play bro let me play retarded
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How do we make Junkrat enjoyable to play against? Even when you're countering him he's annoying.
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>low 50s game
>2 rank 61 in the enemy team
>no one above 54 in ours

fuck off blizzard
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>>148619774
read this
*dp on wakeup*
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>>148619782
>His ult is countered by anotther ult.
>Not even by a wall/reflect/matrix/shield
meanwhile the same lowlifes complain ults make the game noskill and are auto wins.
>>148619793
I am guilty of this but I can't really play competitive beause I am playing on an unstable wifi connexion.
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>>148619709
ana>young ana>pharaoh(only because she looks like her mother)
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>>148619782
>overtime on last objective
>everyone is throwing their bodies on the point just to either contest or extend the overtime
>enemy zarya blows her graviton load
>me as zarya also blowing my load


we still lost but it was amazing seeing two teams clumped up in front of each other
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This game is so fucking shit. The only time I win is when I carry hard as shit with 4 gold medals and spend all fucking game directing my team on what to do

Why can't I just be carried for once?
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>>148619884
I'm not even talking about bad team composition. In fact, I change my characters in order to have a better chance of victory. I'm talking about salt from the other team. If you lost against a bad team, what does that say about you?
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>>148619793
>Playing on PTR
>LMAO5ANA1REIN
>Having a fucking blast
>Other team "WOW TRYING SO FUCKING HARD JESUS" salty sprinklers for the whole game
>Hold them off at the last checkpoint on gibraltar
>NO RE YOU FUCKING QUEERS GET FUCKED FAGGOTS
>They all leave
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>>148619901
>Even when you're countering him he's annoying.

straya cunt m8
it should be this way. Call your snipers/McCree (especially after the patch).
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>>148619709
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>>148619782
>WAAH I WANT MY FREE KILLS WAAH

fucking manbabby
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>>148619901
Have him slow down while shooting. But that would make him unenjoyable to play.
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>>148619923
>overtime
>two graviton surges
>two teams clumped in front of each other
>two trancendances
>two fully charged McCrees
>It's high noon
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>>148619470
Honestly, I don't think so. Not by much. The changes didn't really address what the main problems were with regards to other supports being picked over him.

Adding +50 health doesn't change too much if you're in a bad position. One of the biggest factors for pros is they avoid characters with low mobility. Your main defense when you're caught is killing flankers before they kill you, but they decided to nerf Zen's damage so it takes 1 more body shot to kill a reaper, and you can't head-shot-body-shot kill 200 health targets anymore.

His Ult has been improved greatly. It's easier to move in quickly to save people, and to escape to safety before the time's up. The increased healing per second and movement speed also effectively increases its effective area if you rotate.

Despite all these, it's still not worth losing Resurrect or Speed Boost/Sound Barrier.
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>>148619982
Anon, why are you so angry?
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>>148619906
>rank 42's
>enemy has 3 + 3 stack
>we have 6 solo queues.
?????
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>>148619901
Everyone goes Junkrat
>Bombsevery two feet
>Bear traps around every corner
>Constant stream of giggling and laughter
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i dont play PTR since i have shitty third world southeast asian internet, but do you still gain regular xp? do the stats there get recorded or can you just play meme strats and not worry about raking up tons of losses?
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>>148619941
when you are above average, doesnt matter how much, in most games you are supposed to carry the team, if you dont you get deranked simple as that
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>>148619709
If you're not fighting for your Mercy you're literally playing the game incorrectly.

Protect your Mercy's, they are your greatest ally.
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>>148619793
Don't know but release of comp made QP much worse for sure
Sometimes I feel like having a no-pressure game away from comp, but hell I'd still like to have a remote chance of winning, but nope whole team is always nothing but offense classes, no tanks and no healers for sure and everyone just doing whatever.

Problem is if enemy team has a healer and yours don't, its almost always GG especially in QP
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>>148619918
>Playing FPS or competitive games on wifi.
>Playing PvP games on waifu at all
Wired connection all the way, bro.
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>Play Quick Play
>Can't practice to get good because I get tons of shitters
>Play Competitive
>Lose because I'm not good enough
And I'm not having fun. I wish I could get a group of friends to play with but the only friend I have that plays Overwatch stresses the fuck out of me by voice chat since he always screams and whines about everything.
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>>148618010
what was the reason for nerfing widowmakers dmg?
i understand the nerf to the charge time, but why the damage?
There's no reason to pick her over anybody on the roster now, because soldier and mcree literally do better than her long range, the least they could do is increase the zoom on her scope.
are there any buffs for her planned?
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How do I practice gitting gud at Overwatch?

I don't have it yet but I want to train for when I do get it.
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When are the PTR changes going to go live? I don't want to play even one more ranked game that turns into a 6x D.Va stall for the last five minutes of the match
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>>148620036
Nothing matters on PTR, it's just for testing purposes. (The XP you gain there will just be lost, alongside everything else, once it shuts down.)
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>>148620048
this desu, I want to have a respectable comp in QP to have a chance of winning instead of Widow and Hanzo.

I don't mind comp but the ranking system is so ass to me.
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>>148619901
Have a decent Pharah / McRee / Soldier / Roadhog
As someone who Junks 24/7 he is pretty easy to beat and stomp completely
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>>148619709
Mei.
Because behind that cute face and innocent expressions, she's kinky as fuck.
Oh and thick too
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>>148620034
junkrat duels are the best, just chasing each other through corners, trying to both spam and avoid spam, looking out for mines and traps

truly the duel of gentlemen
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>>148620087
pc?
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>>148620086
>waifu
wifi*
Oh shit, the waifu disease is catching up to me.
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>>148619551
>points are lost the second I die
this feel

>defend point for 3/4ths of the match, doesn't even matter which hero
>teammates die and come back several times
>keep holding
>die once
>all 5 teammates are still up
>well surely they can keep the point long enough for me to respawn ONE time-
>they've already lost the point
>2 or 3 of them aren't even dead they're just in the general area not even bothering to contest it
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>>148620101
Isn't the damage identical if you're getting headshots?
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>>148618502
MFW not even double Tracers can dodge a single Junkrat shitter like me spamming explosives everywhere
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>>148620086
I would if I could and i'd go be a tryhard in competitive.
Just doing waht must be done for now.
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>>148620109
>how do i practice X without doing X
hmm
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>>148619941
I hard find to believe that everyone but YOU is an shitter.
How about taking a hard look in the mirror
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>>148620048
Most of the time I end up playing Lucio or Mercy because no one wants to heal. I am literally giving up my fun so my team can have a better chance of winning. Then I get shitted on by Play of the Game because I don't have enough epic team kills.
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rank 40s is fucking hilarious.

People can't actually cap the first points of Hanamura/Kings Row.
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>>148620109
-play a lot
-don't be afraid to play against bots to practice
-understand that hero switching is a core mechanism in the game
-learn the maps, learn how enemy heroes work
-play a lot
-don't pick shitter classes
-if you are the last to pick a hero, and it says TOO MANY SNIPERS, NO SUPPORT HEROES, NO TANK HEROES, TOO MANY DEFENSE HEROES, LOW TEAM DAMAGE, TOO MANY RETARDS then pick a support/tank and not Hanzo
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>>148619551
>>148620139
>points are lost the second I die
>tfw I am symmetra
JUST
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>>148620118
I just stopped caring about rank in comp and just treat it as a normal game but with regular chance of having working teams.

I don't even mind playing healers, Lucio is my second most played but to enjoy healing you need to feel even slightly confident that your team knows what they are doing, but playing healer in QP is suffering as no one groups up, no one is able to protect you as Mercy etc etc. Maybe with Ana I can just sit back and chill and blame my team for moving too erratically then?
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>>148620156
yeah, but half the the cast has movement speed abilities and at the very least they have infinite jump spam with very small hitboxes, these characters can easily be taken out with the smg mode, but she's the dedicated "sniper" character, i think she should be more than smg poison mine spam.
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>>148620019
I see. Guess the dream has to wait
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>>148620245
So shoot them in the head?
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>>148620116
i doubt theyll shut it down, they implemented the test client for dota 2 looong ago and its a very important part of the occasional patching process.

people who wanna experience the oncoming patches play for a bit there to witness the insanity or just record bugs and glitches for epic reddit karma points.
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>>148620236
This.
Happens so damn often. Same as Mercy
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>>148620229
>-don't be afraid to play against bots to practice
I bet after 100s of matches playing against Hard Mode A.I. and rage you'll start aiming like a bot too.
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>>148620087
Just keep playing comp until you sink to a point where you are good enough, you fucking idiot.
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Mercy is an angel. ANGEL!
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can i run this on integrated graphics 520 or should i buy it on ps4?
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>>148620282
You try doing that when they know you're there. thats where the increased scope part comes into play.
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>>148619793
Even out of the context of the game there's bad losers everywhere. It just chips away at the ego of those emotionally invested in "being good" even in quickplay. Terrible losers are also guilty of blogging here all the time cause they can't consider the possibility they contributed to losing. "M-muh team sucks, not me."
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>>148619574
>FtH is fucking garbage
It still does 540 damage in 2.5 seconds. It takes 4 head shots to get that much damage done with LMB.

Sure, you can do that reliably to an idiot D.Va from the front, but otherwise it's better to unload 12 shots up her ass.

>>148619574
>I don't really play much Genji so I can't really give an opinion
The biggest problem with flashbanging Genji is if you do it while he's jumping he keeps his momentum. If he's still moving while flashbanged then the flashbang is completely useless beyond 25 damage and maybe throwing him off his game.

A lot of idiot Genji players will forget to jump around while ulting, though, so there's that.
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I want Winston ult buffs.

Junkrat trap? Dead.
Mei freeze me? Dead.
Bastion in turret form? Dead in literally 2 seconds.
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>>148620330
you'll be fine
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>>148619953
Isn't it great when you beat salty shitters and they leave like cunts?
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>>148620139
>>2 or 3 of them aren't even dead they're just in the general area not even bothering to contest it
The story of my life. How about when you're racing to contest and you pass a couple teammates standing there firing and just fail contesting by a split second?
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>>148620326
pharah kill mercy in the end
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>>148620287
But it does techically shut down. The PTR is up for a week or two, then goes offline for couple of weeks, before later coming back up with the newest changes to be tested on, etc.
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>>148620048

Sorry, but I'm going to use QP to practice my shit heroes. No way I'm going to do that in Comp.
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>>148620362
Classes that counter you pretty well make you dead?
What a surprise
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>>148619881
I'm pretty sure it wasn't. I specifically remember it being immune to knock backs, including Roadhog's.
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>>148620291
Mercy is fine in this scenario since you keep the ult and save res on the point. Symmetra is just a wasted hero if you don't hold first for at least one whole teleporter.
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>>148620339
>Terrible losers are also guilty of blogging here all the time cause they can't consider the possibility they contributed to losing. "M-muh team sucks, not me."

This, to be quite honest. Sometimes I'm guilty of it too, but when you have 3 supports and 3 Offense characters on Defense, it's not that fun of an experience. I have to switch my character almost all the time. I want to have fun too, anon.
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>>148619551
too much feels

>playing numbani
>attack
>we cannot even fucking capture the point because the red team does Tactics 101: stay on the point
>defeat
>stay in game, coinflip
>we now def
>fags spread, despite I asked them nicely to stay on the point
>we lose the point in 2 minutes flat
>barely won the game in overtime with the payload 4 meters from the final point because I switched to lucio and local_man_contests_point.jpg'd hard for long minutes

LATER
>def Dorado
>I pick mei, because yeah fuck everything
>contest the payload like there is no tomorrow, dance on it like lucio to mess with enemy rein, freeze myself, create ice wall n sheet
>the moment they get me is only when the payload starts
>fucking 5:30 obj time as def, 0 upvotes

kill me
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>>148620418
Hello rank 30.
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>>148620416
Yeah nothing wrong with that, it is what I use QP too. Problem is if you cannot even make it past the first point in most maps because of such shitty team comps, it limits the practice you can get on many champs imo.
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>demonic gook screams "NERF THIS"
>team panics
>lone ganker roadhog snatches the mech mid air
>looks into your eyes
>"youre all free now"
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>champs
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>>148620326
Do you have a better resolution source?
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>>148620419
Maybe the mech got blasted like a split second before I activated the ult?
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You know sometimes I wonder if people are just pretending to be mad about "overpowered" characters like Bastion or Mei just because it's guaranteed replies and not because they actually are having any real trouble with them
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I want explanations on why Genji's ult needs to last so fucking long.
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>be rank 61
>get in a match with 40's
>wonder how the game is gonna fuck me in the next game
>enemy team has two 80's

oh boy i enjoy competitive thanks blizzard!
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>>148620470
Or maybe you just shouldn't be so bad?
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>>148620384
>tfw on defense watching the payload roll along towards the next point
>your reinhardt is twenty feet in front of it with his shield up slowly backing away with the rest of your team behind him
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>>148620497
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pvf_OBuJVE
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>>148620541
I hope not. I like to genuinely reply to people without suspecting every post is behind 5 layers of shitposting and irony.
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>>148620541
welcome to your first day on the internet
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>want to find fanart of cute new character Ana
>nothing up on the usual boorus yet
>not a whole lot on DA either
>decide to search 'Ana' on tumblr
>"Are you feeling okay?" message pops up from my search along with a hotline to call
>lol whut?
>top few images are all Ana art, good
>scrolling down shows a fuckton of girls who look like skeletons
>do not fucking want
>can't search "ana amari", search engine is stupid
>can't search "ana overwatch"
>can't avoid the spooky scary skeletal girls

Can someone tell me what the fuck 'ana' means on tumblr?
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>>148620109
This has actually worked for me on several heroes. Step 1 is the most difficult:
>Get a friend.
>Create a Custom game
>Skirmish
>KotH map like Illios
>Respawn Timer 0%
>1v1 or 2 v Easy Reaper Bots
>fuck around with random combinations
>voice chat about whatever, as friends do

He's been practically maining Reinhardt since he discovered he could rape me 1v1 in a Reinhardt battle earlier this week.
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>>148620541
>"overpowered" characters like Bastion

Who even jokes about this? I can't even take poor Basty into QP anymore because he'll just get shit on after getting 1 kill
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>>148620543
It's in the bottom 3 of worst ultis in the game
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>>148620139
>playing D.Va on KOTH
>holding point no problem
>enemy team starts an organized push
>kill one then ult on point to scatter them and kill one with the ult
>die to a Roadhog hooking me
>well at least they're 5v4 now they should have no problem finishing off the stragglers in the commotion and-
>they LOSE the point
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>>148620640
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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>>148620543
how is 8 seconds "so fucking long"

that's as long as bastion's ult, 4 seconds shorter than torbjörn's and 2 seconds shorter than winstons
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pure fucking cancer.

requires no skill. self-heal on a milisecond cooldown that heals you for half your health? check. can pull anything to do you and oneshot it? check. can hook miss? nope, you'll even pull people through walls!

kill yourself if you play this hero. it's clearly broken.
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>>148620629
anorexic
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>>148620658
excelent argument
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>>148620541
Anyone can post here. Someone who played the game for 3 days could complain about Bastion or Torb wiping their team 5 times in a row cause low level players don't know how to deal with that.
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>>148619709
desu none of them

i'd fight harder for some /a/non to be changed into his waifu and for me to plow said /a/non
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>>148620664
>>148620692
it's long considering you get at least 3 kills with it every time if the team is even slightly distracted
it's one of the best ults in the game for sure, even if it's just a guaranteed kill on the enemy mercy

amazing synergy with black hole too

t. I regularly get slaughtered by 70+ genjis
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>>148620640
>>148620658
Not him, but if you want a more excellent argument:

>3.29 Reaper
>3.04 Soldier: 76
>2.96 Genji
>2.77 Zarya
>2.74 Pharah
>2.74 Torbjorn
>2.48 Mei
>2.45 Roadhog
>2.41 Tracer
>2.34 Junkrat
>2.21 Hanzo
>2.14 Bastion
>2.08 McCree
>1.81 Reinhardt
>1.60 Winston
>1.16 D.Va

Average kills per game, as reported by Overbuff.
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>>148620713
even worse problem are the console players who post without a disclaimer that they are playing on console
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>>148620635
there are certain specific instances where picking bastion helps the team

like overtime on the final objective, everyone is so desperate on getting to the magical blue square of death that theyll drop their guards and get shredded by bastion fire

but i only recommend this when youre on the winning side
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>>148620689
>you'll even pull people through walls!
this annoys me to no end
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I get its QP but how can a person pick Bastion and then have fun getting shit on by a Pharah, Soldier 76 and Genji? It's slightly infuriating to watch him pop up on the kill feed over and over, especially since we just stomp the enemy team that used Bastion on that map.
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>>148620635
>Who even jokes about this? I can't even take poor Basty into QP anymore because he'll just get shit on after getting 1 kill
this is the worst feel. whenever anybody plays bastion in quick play all they do is get shit on
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>>148620740
for their ultimates*
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>>148620689
Sounds like someone got HOGGED

Besides hooks pulling you through walls he is fine
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>>148619709
Blueberry qt.
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Can I run this game with a 20 gb hdd, windows xp, an intel celeron d processor and a Chinese graphics card with no discernable branding? This was the only build I could afford to buy from the local thrift shop and I wanna get my game on with it.
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>>148620736
genji ult is only good if he manages to chain kills during it

if he ends up sitting with dash on CD for even just a few seconds the effectiveness is largely negated

genji ult is often instantly negated by shit like lucio ult
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>Ghost hasn't posted a webm today
I'm worried. Is he dead?
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>>148620838
we got 3 people killed by a genji after I ulted his ult as lucio just because people were distracted by something else
this was at 66 average rank

some genjis are fucking insanely good and impossible to hit

you should never try to flank them and use it, always use it while they're distracted
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>>148620740
"average kills" is not a good way to determine the strength of an ultimate when shit like mercy exist. You need to factor stats like Winrate and Attack/Defense
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>>148620543
>memeston gets a free heal to his full 500 hp and 500 bonus hp, can jump every 2sec, attacks become lucio boops with no cd, limited to melee attacks
>lasts 10sec
>ganjaman doesn't heal up, has 200hp to begin with, has to get kills to reset his dash, can still reflect but it wastes his ult timer, limited to melee attacks, has to go through the traditional dragonsword unsheathing kata at the start
>lasts 8sec
and yet you find a way to complain about genji
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>>148620541

One smart man once said: "/pol/ is as much of ironic as facebook or twitter".

That applies to all of 4chan.
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>>148620838
So many people see Genji team wipes and think that's the only way to use his ult. You get a few chances to use your ult every game. If you can use it to take down one or two key targets, or even just to scare the enemy at a key time then it's worth it.
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Bastion's damage is too high. He's not overpowered but he's really fucking healthy now for what he is
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>>148620962
I agree
reduce his damage but give him mobility while in turret mode
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I think the game should start on the last point and in overtime. It's literally the only part of the game that matters anyway, with every single game getting to that point, so I don't see why even bother with the rest of the map.s
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>>148620890

If you ult as lucio, it takes him over half his ult time to actually kill someone.
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>King's row offense point A

>jump up to the spawn window as D.va

>spart spraying the enemy team for 1 hp a tick

>watch as they all take cover without paying attention to how little damage they're actually taking

>mfw our Genji proceeded to clean them up
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>>148620962
Bastion os underpowered if anything. He needs a way to move or at least block in sentry mode
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>>148620962
>>148620981
>complaining about Bastion when his hard-counter is going to be released soon
You can put him to sleep across the map and then have a teammate rape him.
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>>148621031
My post was more of a "please rework bastion" rather than a "nerf bastion" post. He's not in a good place right now because he's the most counterable piece of shit in the game
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>>148620938
Winston's ult can't kill anyone and makes him a huge target, it's just area denial. Genji's on the other hand makes him deadly and mobile as fuck, while he remains a tiny target.
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>>148621153
>Winston's ult can't kill anyone
how wrong can you be
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>>148621026
>spart spraying the enemy team for 1 hp a tick
>watch as they all take cover without paying attention to how little damage they're actually taking
because the sound effects are fucked up
you can get the "taking damage" sound even if you take close to no damage
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Both bastion and bowman are tied for the worst characters in the game.
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The main problem with Bastion is that his skill floor is way too high and it takes a lot of practice to play him well.
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>>148620890
yeah genji is decent in uncoordinated pubs

still D tier in real amtches
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>>148621196
You have to swing at least 2-3 times to kill someone.
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>>148621196
see
>>148620740
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>>148621238
nobody cares about "pro" games desu, they're all inside a bubble
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>>148621254
swing once for an environmental kill
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>>148620810
Hold up there hotshot.

You wanna buy a 40$ game when you bought that? With a Celeron D and a 20gb HDD I don't even wanna know what your GPU is.

You're like at the absolute bare minimum to play it at an abysmal quality. I hope you're pranking me.
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU COUNTER ZARYA?
SHE JUST NEGATES DAMAGE AND DEALS OUT FUCKLOADS IN RETURN, I CANT KILL HER AS REAPER BECAUSE SHE JUST INSTAMELTS ME FROM BEING AT MAX CHARGE THE WHOLE FUCKING GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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LISTEN RETARDS THIS IS THE PRIORITY LIST.

1. MERCY.
2. TORB TURRETS.
3. TELEPORTER.
4. LUCIO.
5. ANYONE ELSE.

IF YOU LEAVE TORB TURRETS UP LITERALLY NO WAY YOU CAN PUSH AGAINST MOLTY CORE.
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>>148621269
it just shows that genji's strength is due to the chaotic and uncoordinated nature of ranked games
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>>148620992
Honestly this sempai desu, you can hold a point on defense for 10 minutes only to lose to an ult fest in the last 10 seconds. The 10 minutes didn't matter.
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>>148621310
don't shoot her shield
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>>148621310
>she pops shield
>walk towards her
>it runs out
>kill her
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>>148621347
that's all that matters for 99.99% of the people anyway
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>>148621220

Even if you stay mobile and ambush people you are still going to get caught by people paying attention. Fool me once, etc.

I have no idea how you would make him good without making him an absolute monster for new players.

Like comp could deal if turret form had 1000 health just fine with all the stuns/reflects/discord etc but low level pubs would just be ruined.
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>>148620101
because a fully charge shot (150) + an extra double tap (50) instantly kills a majority of heroes
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>>148621310
Just shoot her lmao
But for real, pharah and other high mobility heroes are good vs her
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>>148620740
are we really quoting the same source of statistics that show torbjörn with 59% winrate

like 99% of the playerbase are total fucking shit what happens in their games is not indicative of hero balance
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>>148621310

Reaper kills her in about 2 seconds, just wait for her shield to expire then move in. She has zero armor, so your shots do 100% damage.
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>being put in a match that's on-going
>losing side

why even bother? I'll insta-leave anyway and so do everyone else.
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GIVE WINSTON AN ALT ATTACK

right click gives him chain lightning, shoot one primary target for one tick of damage, then the lightning arcs from them to another teammate from behind and then to another and to another. maximum of 3-4 jumps.

depletes his full ammo count and also requires full ammo
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