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>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Read the UPDATED /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ser9Acpg

>Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Soon, new shekels madness with cerebral free SP and stuff snek themed.
>Did you forget to do your dailies?
>Cap changes, fighter changes and legal drugs: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6523897#post6523897
>June 28th Sneks Supers and Titans: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/shadow-of-the-serpent-signal-the-dawn/
>Winter: new "drilling platforms"
>Fall: new "industrial arrays", barge reworks
>Summer: AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, citadel iterations + contracts, Rorqual rework

Past:
>Goonswarm is dead.
>May 31: RIP old camera, new multi-use analyzers introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>May 24: DO YOUR SP DAILIES
>May 12: Name ships automatically with a saved fit name
>May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts.
>Apr 21: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/
>Mar 09: Massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits.
>Feb 18: Last CSM X Summit: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-second-csm-x-summit-meeting-minutes-included
>Feb 09: SP trading
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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>join Certified-Organic corp
>download TS3
>sign up on services page
>set up API with highest mask, (they can even read my Jita whore diaries)
>set up TS3 auth from services
>set up Mumble auth from services
>Download Mumble
>set up forums account from services
>please use this info to log into forums and then set up forum-API link
>k
>set up Discord
>Need to make a Discord account first
>k
>Set up Discord auth
>Download Discord
>error, contact our helpdesk pilots in-game
>k
>Set up Jabber
>Download Pidgin
>Set up Skype
>Update Skype, 800mb of ram skype.exe running in the background
>Set up ISBoxer for my Jita whore muktitasking
>Log into Slack
>Bunch of shitposting
>Set up Facebook corp group to recieve (requirement to file for SRP)
>Go lose a ship and link a KM to authenticate the SRP program
>Lose my Arty Vagabond
>ok.
>File Arty Vagabond for SRP
>Denied
>Not a Corp fitting
>okey.
>PINGPIGPING
>QUICK COMMS #3 TIME TO HIT TOWER EVERYONE GET ON NAGAS
>No Naga in new home system
>"C-can I bring my Punisher"?
>"Yes you can bring tackle but you need to download the new tackle comms mumble plugin v0.2 first anon go to this link anon https://a.cocaine.ninja/fvxpoy.exe"
>...O-okey ...I-is it safe?
>"Also make sure you download the new Windoes 10 only Discord Overlay, link is somewhere on the forums."
>Cool
>Searching Forums
>Access Denied: Need additional APIs
>Set up my Jita whore API so I can make it to the fleet
>"Ok everyone undoc- anon are you really a Jita whore"?
>New program has to update, doesn't ask for permission.
>Reboot PC
>Corp channel blinking
>Alliance channel blinking
>Director wants to start new conversation
>Pidgin blinking
>Discord blinking
>Skype blinking and using 2gb of ram
>TS3 blinking
>Mumble blinking, tackle comms mumble plugin going nuts
>Forums notifications blinking
>new Facebook message on your wall.
>ANNNOOOON GET ON COOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMSSSSS
>My mind slowly drifts into the abyss.

welcome to EVE
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>tfw that copypasta still isn't funny

oh well.
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did you get your 10k sp today anon-chan?
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amarr :^)
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>mittens will never be your bf
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>>148370969
>Xe thinks people care what xe thinks
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OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:

1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers

9001. Honorabru solo roamers

90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec

900001. C5-6 WH pvpers
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>still no news about t3 nerf
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GETS KILLED BY A SUPERIOR SHIP

Normal people:
>wow what a cool ship. Can't wait to fly it too.

Autists:
>omg ccp u have to nerf its so op i need my perfetc balancing because im autism and if you dont nerf ill cry on reddit and b4r and i totally didn't avoid the fight because i dont know what dscan is and im a fucking idiot herpdurpededef
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>mfw buttblasted fotm fags
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>tfw fotm fags in /eog/
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>tfw unadaptable autists in /dog/
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>yfw those autists are fotmfags
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>implying fotm fags know shit about adapting
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>t3c/ds are in game for years/moths
>i-i-i-ts just fotm guise
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>ccp have failed to this long to balance these ships, so they must be ok
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>>148375652
But they do, they adapt to the next fotm cancer.
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>>148375993
Only after someone else shows it to them.
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>people actually think passive align is real
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>all these faggots not flying cool ships because it hurts their honor
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>>148377059
>he doesn't fly 300+ mil fit garmurs and 1.5 bil orthuses
>what a poorfag
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>not realising that your overpowered ships only seem 'fun' or 'cool' because they dump on all the balanced ships, and being a shitter you need this advantage to feel special
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>that one guy in /eog/ who is dishonorable
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>tfw svipul fags will never get banned from this sub
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has anyone done any math on how many sp a gold ouroboros gives you over its duration?
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>>148377543
Not enough to warrant the huge grind

farming isk to buy skill injectors will always be faster and give more SP
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>it needs to be expensive
>he thinks other ships are balanced
>le svipul argument
>he thinks i fly exclusively memeships
>he cares about honor in a game without rules
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>>148377616
ive already done the grind
i just want to know how it compares to a skill injector since theyre sort of close in price
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>he shitposts on /eog/ trying to convince everyone that he isnt a fotm cancerfag
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>>148377701
It's shit. This whole event is shit. Not even quafe drops. They added some loot to the battlecruisers but so fat it was just generic meta garbage. Idk if they drop anything better.
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>>148377543
it's 100k SP

The copper is ~11k SP

The fact that there are literal retards out there paying 600 mill a gold accelerator that gives out 100k instead of paying for a skill injector which gives you 400k is baffling
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>mfw not replying to dishonour shitters
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>having an argument means shitpost
>honor
>actually forcing rules on yourself
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>argument
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>>148377876
that sounds about right, but is there work for this somewhere i can look at? i know you make about
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>he undocks without rituals to preserve honor
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>she isn't an honorabru space samurai
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>not being an amarr khanid cyberknight
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>>148378313
there was someone who showed the calculation in leddit. I can't for the life of me find it.
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>be in corp
>forming a fleet for a roam
>"hey anon wanna come on a provi roam to dunk some miners"
>"WHAT? THIS IS DISHONORABLE!! HOW DARE YOU!"
>uh what?
>"REEEEEEE"
>I can literally hear over mic the foam forming in his mouth
>he starts shooting my ship to "remove dishonor from this corp"
>ceo kicks him from corp and bans from comms
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>mfw an unironic svipul pilot applies to join my corp
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>>148378871
>>"hey anon wanna come on a provi roam to dunk some miners"
>ok

>miners set up smartbomb battleships
>twice

the salt that night, oh
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>>148378826
well i actually just did my own independent math and yeah, it comes down to like somewhere between 80 and 100k. how fucking lame.
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>literally 10
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>some guy wants to join corp
>says he's an FC
>never FC's in corp
>whines when no one is doing FC
>doesn't want to do support, logi or what ever, only wants to F1 monkey
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you boys remember when goons went to lowsec with 400 people in proteus hardcounters and still lost to less than 200, feeding uncontrollably.
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>>148384874
I remember when they undocked their battleship fleet for the first time and they had to stand down because they didn't have Javelin because someone bought it all on market
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>>148384874
I remember when some dank memer bought all of their machs and replaced the 1600 plates with 100mm plates, and relisted them.
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>>148385420
Or guardians, or 50M raptors, or no canes on market.
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>ywn gas bryce THIS hard
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can you play this game solo?
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>rapids still produce killmarks

why
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>>148387201
No, this is a highly social game that more or less requires you to interact with the community to actually participate in it
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>>148387315
lol
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Why is anyone still bothering to play this shit now it's been turned into care-bear central?
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>>148387361
what ships are considered "ong point/scram" ships and what are the ranges? I'm trying to decide if I should go out and train a Lachesis or not.
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>>148388104
the lachesis can point out to like 80km with a faction point and links

it can scram out to like 25km overheated, faction scram, links, etc
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>>148387957

humor me
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>>148388662


No, but I'll double your isk.
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>>148388786

sent
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>>148387201
I play it solo.

Not recommended if you are new. you CAN, but it easy to lose sight of what you are doing. You always need to be setting goals and going out there and having fun. This is usually easy to do when you are in a large corp and FCs hand content to you on a platter
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>>148388786
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>>148389256
What a slut
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>Standing Fleet is still going strong. Come and make isk while getting strat papsWe need more Procures and ventures mining.

So this is the power of the Imperium.
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Wherever I go, I must also cyno.
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>>148390678
close, its wherever i am. still good tho
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>Corp recruiters bullying people applying to join
>mfw I got in without an application

Thanks Snuff
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>>148389096
you dont play EVE "solo", no matter what you do you are playing with other people. You are eventually going to make friends, and work with someone at some point. Its impossible not to. You can run missions and PvE all day, but unless you want to really get involved with the game you're having fun with, you should definitely seek out involvement with another player. they'll seek you out eventually.

SHOULD EVE be played alone? NO! can it? Yes, if you want to limit your fun and badassery. Think you can take on an 7/10 escalation by yourself? DO YOU?! i dont think so.

Real talk. Word- BIG UPS to my homies in null. Respec to my homies in da K. Peace out my nigga. Rollin for da empress beyatch!
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how long does the cloak take before you disappear from overview
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>>148392178
what system are you in? ill let you know
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>>148392247

hakonen
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>>148391952
Didn't read all that sperg because I know what your autistic ass is about to say after you said "huurr you don't play this game solo".

Yes, you still interact with people you dumbshit, I am talking about personally playing solo without a corp of people and voice comms you autistic faggot.
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>>148392605
well if you had read the rest of what i said, you would have seen that i was alluding to the association of corps and shit. Techincally, wanting to be alone and not interact with other people is a sign of autism as well...so, we may both be autistic.

but can you really complete a 7/10 ded site solo?
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>>148392745
you can solo a 10/10 in a tengu you dumbshit
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THE TENGU IS THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING
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>>148392980
The Caldari spare no expense when it comes to gathering shekels.
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>>148392906
oooho look at me with a tengu im so cool

did you also P2W?
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>hurr eve online is the only game with overpowered units and a meta, what a shit game lmao
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>>148393117
>Xe doesn't buy plexes to convert to isk

how's it feel to be cucked on a dying game?
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>>148393117
Why should I cooperate and reduce my profit?
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>>148394045
literally no response. you can get massive more profit by working together with people. You can combine resources and get even more shit and you can use corporate money instead of your own! You'll effectively double your monetary funds.
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>>148395110
lmao do you even play this game?
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>>148395335
yeah and ive doubled my money in a corp. its nice. sounds like you dont like having fun and earning mega money. You think playing solo renders the big ISK? playing together doubles it.
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>>148395520
lying-ass nigga right here
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>>148395748
>>148395520
I don't have to split with a dumb nigger doing a 10/10 with me.
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new art from mspaint friend
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>>148396185
looks pretty good when it's zoomed out
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>>148396185
>amarr
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>>148396295
Yeah, i downsize them and sell them as sigs to alliance members.
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Am I missing anything?

http://pastebin.com/RNRga0RS
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>>148398848
Nah it's fine.
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>>148399126
Sick, now time to plan out a Pilgrim/Cyno alt so I can sit cloaky in the belt and buttfuck people that try and fuck with my fleet.
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>he doesn't have combat rorqual
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Is it a good idea to use a deep space transport as a super-industrial/mini-freighter in highsec?

I'm questioning this because on paper it's EHP wall is foolproof for transporting over a half billion assets

on the other side the killmail whore could take the 210mil of the ship into the calculation of efficiency

anyway how do you fit your DST?
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>>148400035
Using anything but DST in hisec is suicide.
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>>148399869
Is it bad I legitimately considered this? I can't think of any benefits beyond

>100% drone bonus dmg/hp
>125 bandwidth
>capital Remote Shield Booster

Is there something I'm not considering?
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>>148400284
It's more of a bait/backup until counter drop arrives. With neuts and bulkheads. Depends who drops you.
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>Combat rorqual with battle skiff support will probably be a thing in the next few months
>When someone is about to kill it the guy re-enforces it for hours to waste everyone's time
>mfw
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>>148400481
It only holds for 30 seconds and burns out.
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they will be legit after the mining changes in the fall
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>>148400564

Wasn't CCP going to put a module that made it and the mining ships on grid invulnerable until help arrived?
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>>148400679
Yes, it holds for 30 seconds. It's the same as the cap emergency hull energizer.

>>148400646
It's rorq changes, not mining. Mining is still shit.
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>>148400872
they literally said they are changing mining l2read
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>>148400216
DST is a covert ops industrial ship?

Im training to use one now, is it worth it?
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>>148400872

>it holds for 30 seconds

Then whats the point, what help can you get in 30 seconds when a blops fleet drops on you?
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>>148400872
They are reworking barges.

>>148400939
They won't be reworking mining in general.

BECAUSE THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH MINING GET FUCKED EXPLORATION NORMIES.
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>>148401105
They are REDESIGNING barges, not reworking.

Literally everything is wrong with mining.

>normie
back to facebook
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>>148401296
Mining did nothing wrong.
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>target a rock
>press f1
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>>148401296
illiterate fuck
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>-1 cpu for strip miners
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>>148400947
no it's the other one, the one based on the bigger T1

it sports:
>a 50k - 67k cargo bay that cannot be modified but with the ship skill
>T2 resists
>can use MJD
>+2 warp core stabs
>bonuses to overheating

basically an industrial ship that can take a beating

the blockade runner is the stealthy covops one
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>mining has to be some stupid interactive mini-game.
>mining has to require travel and being behind enemy lines.
>for some reason there is absolutely everything wrong with having a sedentary and and mundane profession that makes income appropriate to its risk and activity level.

Just leave it alone man, people like it, honestly and truly like it.
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>tfw ninja ice in shatterred whs is shit because i have to sit there like an idiot because a more engaging mechanic would upset our vegetative friendos in hisec
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>>148402357
and then people be like "WHY are we losing players? Where did it all go wrong???"
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>>148402357
I can get behind there being high activity/risk ore/ice/gas shit for prospects and endurance pilots.

I don't think we should make that gameplay the same as "mining" mining though. Your adressing two completely different groups of players.
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>>148402558

>and then people be like "WHY are we losing players? Where did it all go wrong???"

Two words. Elite: Dangerous.
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>>148401059
Whoever said 30 seconds is wrong, its more like 5 minutes or something like that.
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>>148405962
Mom look, I posted it again!
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>>148376697
>its good because its popular because it gets kills because 'its good'
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Do the event rewards always contain the same shit? So far what i've seen it doesn't vary at all.
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>>148381845
Isn't it (primary stat)+(half of secondary stat) to determine the SP you get per minute for a skill?

So the Ouro Accelerators give an additional 15 SP per minute for their duration.
Gold lasts 7,200 minutes.
Comes out to 108k SP.
It was rumored (I haven't bothered with the event, so can't confirm) that Biology also affected the duration of the Ouro Accelerators, so double duration at level 5 for a total of 216k SP.
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Why isn't the new bodyarmor fuckign serpentis colored?

>scope
haha i'm so intersteller novinář lolo xDD
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Tell me how to make ISK as trial right now or your mother dies tonight
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I am not gay.
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>>148411784
I warned you
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>>148405962
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>she isn't elite and dangerous
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>>148411784
You have no power here
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u fuckin niggers dont even keep ur thread alive
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Hows it feel that amarr womyn are falling for the superior strong brutor?
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Is this too bling fit for a mining fleet?

[Skiff, Tanky Ice]
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Ice Harvester Upgrade II
Damage Control II

Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Medium Shield Extender
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Ice Harvester II

Medium Ice Harvester Accelerator I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


Infiltrator II x5
Acolyte II x5
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>>148424173
HS carebear spotted
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>>148424228
nullsec.
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>>148424173
>3 invulns

If you don't have a defence fleet, you'll get killed anyway. Just sayin
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>>148424271
You dont really care about being tanky then, keep an eye on Intel/stay aligned, the only NPC you can fear is the Dreadnought
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>>148424386
what else would you put in the mid slots? I was thinking a cloaky pilgrim for tackle/cyno along side the fleet.

>>148424502
I want to fuck people up. I have 10 miners and a cyno alt.

[Skiff, Unnamed loadout]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Spodumain Mining Crystal II

Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Acolyte II x10
Infiltrator II x5

is my ore setup. I have one skiff with a target painter/sensor booster to act as the drone bunny.
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>>148424684
If you want to fuck people, fit DDA, scram or point.

>10 people
You mean actual humans or 10 alts?
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>>148424750
10 alts. Since the drones are assigned its like the same thing.

Drop a laser upgrade for DDA? I don't know about fitting scram/point on the barges. I was thinking either a pilgrim or a lachesis for that.
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>>148424684
Well, you did not spicified, so yea >>148424750 you gonna need to scram/point/bulkhead, remove everything related to ice ?
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>>148402001
>all of that
>can still be stopped by bubbles
>Still need to be babsat by a scout
>will get wrecked if you get caught be even one pirate

what a fucking waste.
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>>148426635
>being this much of a shitter
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>Medium Drone Control Range Augmentor I
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>>148428215
well when im carrying over 200mil in liquid ISL, id really like to guarantee my arrival at the market. is that so wrong? I dont want to put in work and then get it blown up.
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>>148428510
>fit mwd
>fit cloak

is this so difficult
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>>148428574
you cant use either in a bubble, especially when you're scrammed and jammed.
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>>148428616
why the fuck would you let anyone lock you, what are you doing
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>>148428616
You've already fucked up pretty bad if you put yourself in that situation.
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>>148428779
because people gatecamp the gates that im jumping through? are just fucking with me? You cant warp out of a bubble, you cant use MWD/JD when scrammed, you cant DO anything but take a beating and if there is enough DPS you will get wrecked.
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>mfw this faggot wants a ship that's bubble immune, covops (preferably cloaks automatically because pressing buttons is hard), and with a massive cargo
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>>148429530
interceptors are immune to bubbles, all im saying is it only takes one dick to ruin your happy day of space trucking. its my money, its my shit, i need to get it gone so i can profit.

and what part of "you cant cloak in a bubble" is beyond your comprehension?
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>and what part of "you cant cloak in a bubble" is beyond your comprehension?
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>leave me alone so I can pretend I'm a space truck driver all day
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>>148430075
i am more than a big truck. i harvest planets, and explore the space. and even kill the bad guy and take his shit. I got a lot of shit and im in the backwater nowhere of shitville space and cant sell a damn thing. ive got over 300mil liquid isk, and will probably have more than three times that buy the time i can fly t2 indy. so yeah, i reaally would like that money to be in my wallet by the time i get home.
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>small t1 haulers: no cargo
>big t1 haulers: no fitting lol xD
>BR: cargo immunity fuck you up
>DST: bare minimum for actual hauling in HISEC
>freighter: fucking lol
>JF: full time hauling only or corp asset

>outside of HS it all dies to a rifter because the defenses are either nonexistant or a total joke

BALANCED GAEM Xdd
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>le smug greentext meme post from a total shitter who knows absolute fuck all
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It's almost as if the game is an MMO and it's recommended to do certain things in groups
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>denying the truth
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>6 lines of nonsense
>truth
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>he keeps denying it
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>>148430339
>ive got over 300mil liquid isk

Wow man, you must be a big player in the hauling game.
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yes I'm denying it. I've already spoonfed you plenty, I'm out
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>>148430573
the cargo space is so limited, i cant imagine i can get more liquid in a single run. I know im space poor, but i just cant seem to bring in the mega money. PI and Exploration dont pay well if im not a multiboxing faggot.
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>>148430835
Since you aren't making any money anyway you may want to take the time to learn from others before you make any big mistakes.

Or don't, your choice.
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>>148431020
well give some advice, oh great master of hauling.
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>>148431278
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Hauling
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>>148431369
>http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Hauling
already read it. Didnt tell me anything that i didnt already know.
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>>148431369
>lies
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>>148431278
Stop shitting on dsts when you don't understand their strengths for a start.

You don't have to haul your own stuff anyway. There are industrial corps that you can contract things to, but it will cost you.
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>>148431548
>this guy read the UniWiki

how can i take your word for it when you just spout what you read on the internet? and since you seem to know its strengths, why dont you tell me some personal experiences with the ship?
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>the only times I felt something even remotely close to having fun playing EVE was 5 years ago, since back then I was able to finish my monthly PLEX grind in ~60 hours and actually do fun stuff the remaining 5 days of the month

I deeply regret picking up those 10 free days. Should have remained unsubbed.
Fuck you CCP for sending me those offers.
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>fun
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>>148431670
I'm not even the one who linked the uni wiki.

Are we still talking high sec hauling or are you interested in something else?
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have a buzzard for exploring, used the eve uni fit and i'm wondering if i'll ever use the salvager. any ideas for another hi-slot mod that would be more useful, especially in low/nul sec?
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>>148430835

>the cargo space is so limited

What the fuck are you hauling? Just a couple of days ago I hauled half a billion in a Wreathe, and barely used 300 m3.

If you're trying to do hauling contracts and hauling contracts only for muh space trucking, then just stop while you're ahead and accept the fact that haulers get paid a fucking pittance because there's freighters in each region that hoard any contract they see that they can fit in their freighter and then do them all at once. You will be lucky if you can find a contract for more than 1.5 mil/jump unless you're hardcore and are doing JF contracts.

I have been flying T1 indies for fucking ever. T2s are nice but a Mammoth and Wreathe can get everything you need done yourself without having to rely on shitters in freighters taking an entire day to move your load 4 jumps. A properly fitted Wreathe can tell lowsec gatecamps to lolfuckyourself and if you scout and use map stats, you can safely navigate null with it too.

And no, I don't multibox, I'm on one account.
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>have to sweat our way through several-hour-long-boring-ass-motherfucking-missions constantly refreshing d-scan with 100% of our in-game wealth on the line
>get bullied over it, harassed and preyed upon; with a single mtu loss setting us back so far, that it takes months to recover, since there's barely any isk leftover
>constantly under pressure: one mistake - even through no fault of our own - renders us completely unable to ever get back to playing the game, permanently K.O.
>and it keeps going: several times a day, every single day in a month, for god knows how long and no end in sight
>all of this just to earn our pitiful, destitute stay solely to be able to keep doing it
>literally slaves.
And yet somehow, instead of pity, all we receive from the playerbase is hate.
Why?


Signed - 2nd worst type of player in eve
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>have to
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>>148432706
The salvager is useless. There isn't much you can do with the third high slot anyway. I have no idea why the buzzard is so popular.
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>>148433625
>implying there's any other solo highsec non-afk activity
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>>148433557
dscanning in high sec? wut? if people are going to try to kill you anyway, might as well be not in high sec
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>he doesn't dscan everywhere
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>>148434010
It wasn't a thing until recently.
Mission runner abuse seems to be a sport nowadays.
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>>148387957
buhuhu this game is not a griefer enabler simulation anymore buhuhu :(((

>>148405962
This
ED is actually a game that requires some skill, as opposed to EvE where the number of accounts you control determine your power level
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>>148432409
>hauling
>in hi-sec

the only reason im in hi-sec unironically is so that i can sell my shit. otherwise, im in null, and lowsec.
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>>148434258
The griefers who've been ruining this game since 2006 or so are running out of targets

Mission running while spamming dscan: wow much amazing gameplay, thanks CCP!
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>>148433445
im hauling for myself and myself alone. Im not space trucking, and im not trying to make money with hauling. I just want to get my things to market. but ill take your advice. ive only ever used t1 indys, but im dealing with a lot more money and a lot more gatecamp than before. Im being extra cautious.

>>148434010
why doyou assume missions are only in hisec?
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>>148435070
>why doyou assume missions are only in hisec?
he said
>Signed - 2nd worst type of player in eve
that means hes a high sec ratter
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>go afk
>come back
>hauling guy is still retarded
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>go to work
>come home
>/dog/ is still retarded
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>>148435070

Depending on what youre doing, investing in a BR might be worth it. I don't usually go into null with my Wreathe but it CAN do it if you take precautions, it may also be safer to huff it for a bit and take multiple trips to drop your stuff off in a lowsec system, and only then use a T1 to haul it the rest of the way to a market.

Also always remember that you have Jitawhores like me checking regions on EVECentral for good trades, and we will go to you and pick up your shit from a local market for you if the price is worth it.
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>>148436282
>Also always remember that you have Jitawhores like me checking regions on EVECentral for good trades, and we will go to you and pick up your shit from a local market for you if the price is worth it.
People still do that? I always found it not worth it. Most of the time it's like 200-500k per jump.
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>>148436605
Sometimes it's worth it. About an hour or so ago I made 18m off an 8 jump trip I found on eve-central.
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>18m
>worth
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>>148437097
People generally pay around 1m per jump for courier contracts. Not comparable to some other isk-making activities, true, but it's pretty good for hauling.
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Has combat moved beyond "lock target, click orbit, fire guns" yet?

Is the only skill involved literally still just ship fitting and target selection?

when the fuck are they going to make pvp in this game fun
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>>148437097
Yeah, and then do 10+ contracts at once, plus tips.
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>>148437382
Skill in EvE: controlling multiple accounts at once to gank single-account players
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simply eric
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Is PL gonna kick brave out of querious?
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>she is an unironic elite solo pvpstress
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>>148436605

Are you talking about sell-buy trading? I dont do that, only scrublords do. I do sell-sell, so I look at the price you're selling it, compare it to Jita/Amarr/Dodixie prices, and if I feel like I can make a good profit buying from you and reselling at one of the hubs, I will. I usually get batches of trades per region and make about 200-300 million profit, more if I hit the jackpot.

It kind of sounds like Im trying to take you for a ride since Im buying your product at a cheap price and then flipping it at substantial markups. The truth is I am, I make a lot of money from price bubbles. However, Im also saving you from having to haul your ass to trade hubs if Im willing to go to your product myself.
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What is that drug called that can boost new character attributes?
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>>148440548
skill injector
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>>148440548
Prototype Cerebral Accelerator
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>>148376697
>minmatar
>minmatar
>gallente
>minmatar
>minmatar
niggers confirmed superiour
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niggers and sjws always win
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>>148414864
>>148411784
I noticed this as a rising meme

I don't like it, kys
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>>148440780
thanks
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>>148415907
thanks, been meaning to cruise a bit in that game again
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>>148441239
Thats all you gonna do because its empty, lol
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>>148437382
Generally it is a lot more than that, if you're an FC your tactic revolves around making sure your enemy is in your attack range at all times.
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>>148434709
>ED is actually a game that requires some skill, as opposed to EvE where the number of accounts you control determine your power level
>ED is better than EVE
>even though the games are so disimilar that their only similarities are space and space combat.
>ED: with no economy, price fixing and themepark elements, no player generated content, no sovereignty, no wars, all artificial bullshit
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>>148442105
>EvE: the sandbox in which players either run an alliance and do RMT with the taxes of their drones, or are drones making their leaders rich IRL
>ED economy is artificial, when EvE economy is based on moves big RMTers

Your "sandbox" : is a scam, buy multiple accounts to please your corp or play solo, and don't forget to help people doing RMT :^)
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>>148442584
>muh RMT meme
nice non-argument
>EVE's economy is for RMT
so I guess people making money in game is just synonymous with RMT

is buying low and selling high also "exploitative"? is it "cheating" too?
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>>148442584

So what about people like me that own only one account and still have fun and make enough money to plex each month?
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>>148443002
You don't count because I said so.

making money is cheating because I didn't make it.

EVE economy is unfair to me
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>>148441048
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>>148442758
>guys i'm selling "roses" for 10$ a pop
>omg why don't more unsuspecting people play this game, I need drones to pay taxes that I'll RMT, and PvE-fit ships to gank :(((
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>>148443067
>everything that defeats or goes against my narrative is RMT
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>>148443002
>so what about unicorns guys? they exist, I ride one!
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>isk efficiency
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>>148443047
>all time rank #1
>hurricane
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>>148443205

>being so much of a fucking scrub that you absolutely NEED to multibox to enjoy the game and get your PLEX

I don't have a problem with multiboxing, although I wish it was less prevalent, but holy fuck just go play Runescape if you're this much of a retard.
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>>148443175
http://failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?18005-A-Rose-by-any-other-name
http://evenews24.com/2014/10/16/thoughts-on-clockwork-pineapples-alleged-rmt-operation/
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>>148443456
>alleged RMT
suspects aren't guilty

>my fringe buzzfeed articles prove that everyone is doing RMT
>EN24
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>>148443330
>flying in lowsec without a scout
>being stationcamped by wardec griefers without a secondary character to play while waiting
>running back and forth to a trade hub on your main, just because it's fun to truck around making zero isk while travelling, and exposing yourself
>>
opportunity cost :^)
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>>148443550
>I haven't read the links but deny anyway because I'm a griefer faggot who wants to attract people to his sociopathy simulator by saying it's not RMT-heavy
>scrapheap challenge is not a trustable source lol!
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>>148443880
I never denied RMT wasn't a thing, RMT is a thing in every MMO.

>EVE is RMT heavy
no its not

You're using RMT as a scape goat because you won't admit your fake "economy" and theme park MMO is garbage.

You have your own thread for ED, fuck off to there
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>>148443713

>needing scouts in lowsec because you dont know how to fit your haulers
>being stationcamped by MUH GRIEFFERS because you cant be assed to make undock bookmarks
>being in a shitty corp that gets wardec'd and gets their shit pushed in by faggots in the first place
>sitting in a station doing nothing while swapping characters again and again is better than flying around because muh exposure, muh risk, if im not earning muh 1% profit from selling my catalysts im not having fun :(

Go play Elite or Runescape. Pick whichever.
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>>148444052
>eve online
>"griefers"
>>
Just report him.
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>>148443970
Hey dipshit, I merely responded to >>148405962
I can understand how you're buttmad that ED does well, a game in which you can't grief playersir metagame the shit out of it
Braben and team has studied EvE I think, and understood that the RMT-loving, Schadenfreude-harvesting overweight angry neckbeards infesting EvE would flock to ED to disrupt it and get cheap kicks out of random joes
As a result, they didn't bother to create a player-to-player economy, and this was a really clever move.
tldr; griefing fucktards dug their own grave, just like Ultima Online was trammelized because of them: following MMOS nearly all followed suit, and separated servers by PvE and PvP :^)

>>148444052
>why would you fly anything that a hauler in lowsec??? lol you're looking for solo fights?????? e-bushido lmao XD XD XD
>I'm gonna mine in the system next door, thanks to my instadock bookmarks, campers will never see me!
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>>148443313
That's zkill's all-time rank

kind of superflous and useless information desu

zkill uses biased and arbitrary math to decide ship ranking using their scoring system
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>>148445191
It has nothing to do with "lessons learned from eve" at all.
>>
just
report
him
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>ED :^)
http://steamcharts.com/app/359320
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>doing Serpentis sites
>get DC'd
>log back in
>i'm in a pod
I'm slowly coming to terms with the fact that I'm never going to get anywhere in this game.
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>>148445191

What the fuck are you even going on about? I'm saying that this game is perfectly playable with only one account. Can you be more efficient with multiple? Of course. Does that mean you NEED them to do anything? No, not at all. I even said that I don't have a problem with multiboxing so I don't have the slightest idea why you're being a spastic trying to hammer in that it is an absolute must to constantly take scout alts around with you wherever you go.

>still with muh grieffers

So are you another Elite funposter and I'm just being bamboozled?
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>>148445774
That's reimbursable, ticket it.
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>Emergency downtime
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>>148446660
Wat? rly? I'm not online now. Did the event shit itself again?
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>>148445840
>I'm saying that this game is perfectly playable with only one account

Sure, if you enjoy losing time hauling, being unable to scout in order to avoid gatecamps if you fly anything bigger than a cruiser: this, if you're a non-belligerent asshole

Now, if you are a belligerent asshole, you NEED multiple accounts to:
-Spam scams in trade hubs
-Infiltrate corps, steal their assets, and have no reputation issue on your main
-Place eyes in neighboring systems, to watch for the once in a blue moon campbusters coming to remove your gatecamp
-Run lvl4 missions on your mission running alt, when the once in a blue moon campbuster fleet chooses to stationcamp your gatecaming fleet you have docked when seeing them approaching three systems away

>>148445724
EvE is 22k logged, with a very conservative average of 2+ accounts by players, that's only 2 to 3 times more players than ED, a game that is not 13 years old, and only getting better while EvE is desesperately trying to appeal to PvErs
I understand your mad tho :/
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>game playable with one accounts
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4st4cy/how_can_anyone_afford_to_play_this_game/
>Eve non-players know you need more than one account to play without committing suicide after a play session
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Recommend me a Garmur fit for PvE purposes.
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>>148445382
>"lessons learned from EvE"

If you play EvE: get multiple accounts
If you're an MMO dev: don't let griefers run amok (unless you get your share of their alts' RMT :DDD)
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>griefing
>bad

I bet you don't even praise kek.
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>cluster shutdown
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>>148446790

With the rate of player falloff, and even accounting for temporary spikes in players when they release terrible updates, Elite on Steam will be dead in about a year and a half unless they do something to fix their player retention issues. A lot of their players don't play on Steam, so I estimate 3 - 5 years until Frontier shelves Elite for good.

Trust me, Frontier trying to keep "grieffers" out of the game is not the reason that game is dropping like a rock.
>>
>Servers back up

Go back to station spinning faggets.
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