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Old Thread:>>148210410

>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Competitive Info
http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://www.over.gg/

>The Oversheet (Damage values and other numbers)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Stats and Leaderboards (Unofficial)
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://www.overbuff.com/

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us
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Nude patch when?
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i want to lick widowmaker's blueberry hole
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>bastion blames me for losing
>next game he's on my team again
>picks bastion again
>we lose again
He had 12 hours on bastion with a 40% winrate.
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There are people on this thread right here right now that don't like playing the tanks. What is wrong with you?
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fill in the blanks /owg/
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>Am I that fat?
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>>148228997
>>>/v/
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Apparently, the secret to success is to not be a faggot, pick whatever 70+ nerds ask you and let them carry. My best dps is probably 76 and I can barely keep up considering all the hog/tracer bullshit in high ranked games.
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>Guys, McRee's fan can kill tanks fast!
>NERF BOMB LMAO xD

>Guys, Hanzo's fracture arrow can bring any tank below 100HP in one hit!
>PERFECTLY BALANCED
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>>148228970
>Reinhardt is a fucking beast in close quarters and can shepherd your team to victory.
>Zarya is amazing at controlling fights.
>D.va is fun and great at initiating/flanking with a fantastic zoning ult
>roadhog is easy mode tank for people who think they have to do everything themselves
There are people on this board right now who think Roadhog is objectively better than Reinhardt.
Learn your hero roles, people.
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>>148228997
Literally take that Your Team and Their Team picture and it apply it to the appropriate heroes.
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>>148229095
man the harpoons
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Is there no reason to play Reaper because 76 is just better?
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fix hanzos hitboxes
this hero's skill floor is way too high
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>>148229095
Yeah, but stick with me and we'll do a special workout 20-30 times a day that ought to get you back in shape.
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>>148229095
I swear this is the rose quartz debate all over again.

>>148228997
Zenyatta: It's a lot like masturbation. You play with your balls until you achieve tranquility, but in the end you're only screwing yourself.
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>Level 53
>The vast majority of my hours are Zenyatta and Mercy
>Now have no transferable skills to other heros for comp

QP for life...
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Reminder that they are going to be looking at how oppressive Mercy is in competitive after Sombra's release. If Mercy is still near the top expect a nerf in three months
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>>148229204
Are you that guy who was trolling with the reverse statement the other day?
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>>148229208
you mean his skill floor is low
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>>148229152
how do you get into games with 70s
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>>148228772
Am I getting a ban, if i'm flaming really really hard?
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>>148229095
Insecure Mei is best Mei.
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>>148229204
76's ult is a lot more avoidable than Reapers.
Reaper has a fantastic disengage.
Reaper's burst is much higher.
Reaper has more survivability.
Reaper adds a different kind of presence to a fight. the enemy usually tries to force the 76 away or get on top of him, while Reaper is visibly avoided by the enemy team, not to mention the panic induced by DEATH COMES
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halp pls

>friend told me to change in-game language spoken to a random other language
>told me it would be hilarious XDD
>client suddenly wants to download 300 megs worth of audio
>stop it, reset language back to english
>client still wants to download 300mb file

help pls
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>playing t.racer on hanamura second point
>dwarf has a turret in the loft
>he's left it unguarded, time for a cavalry charge
>try to strafe it, miss all my shots and almost die
>decide to just peek and pepper it down
>get it down to 30%
>have to grab health pack, come back, round the corner
>get blasted by dwarf shotgun, die instantly
>suddenly he stops moving
>he's fucking typing

instant dc
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>>148229295
no i'm legitimately curious if reaper is useless because other offense classes are better
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>>148229362
Maybe if people report you?

Do you get notified if people report you?
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>>148229298
His hitboxes are more forgiving than Jesus, anon.
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>>148229393
Let it download it.
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>>148229195
Would totally shoot her with my harpoon if you know what i mean
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>people STILL don't know melee attacks have rectangular hitboxes, so aiming with the sides of your vision gives you more reach compared to directly aiming what you're trying to hit
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>>148229179
I love Roadhog because he's fucking amazing at grabbing the enemy's flankers and screaming LEGGO MY EGGO into their faces.
For the purposes of this discussion Roadhog's eggo is his healers.

>>148229408
Reaper's simple but very solid. He's an excellent tank-killer and can be fucking annoying to deal with in general. He's even kind of self-sufficient since he can regenerate a lot of his lost health by eating people after he kills them.
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>>148229261
>Mercy
>top
She's pretty shitty in all regards, her ult is her only saving grace.
lucio outheals her, lucio has a lot more independence during fights, Lucio has way more tools to get people off his ass, and he adds actual combat utility to the fight, instead of just a measly 30% damage increase to a single ally.
The only time you get away with having a Mercy on KotH maps is when you're bound to win anyways.
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>>148229491
melee attacks havelasting hitboxes so you can 360 slap people if you want
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I noticed ranked is much more casual to play then when it first launched.

Also ive had more success with teams without mics than those who demand them being used. I do feel like having a mic would help but some people are just really annoying to deal with so its nicer just to communicate with text.
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>>148229427
yes which mean his skill floor is low.

skill floor is the minimum necessary to play the hero. if shitboxes are forgiving, that means you don't need tight aim or good aim at all to play the hero. That means the skill floor is not high, it is low.

"high" skill floor would be something like playing golf in real life. you need to prepare and learn the proper swing to hit the golf ball, you can't just run up and whack it and expect it to go anywhere near where you want. playing golf has a higher skill floor than playing hanzo. Hanzo you can just drop into a match and spam arrows and get kills, it doesn't take any special preparation to learn this.

I'm saying you mixed up your buzzwords and you don't know what you're saying.
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i just wanted to look at memes about the trash boy
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looks like you need a time out
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>defending first on on attack sided map
>team goes full tilt and starts trolling
Nice game blizzcucks
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>>148229208
I understand you, his hitboxes are pure shit in this particular video tho you see that arrows actually hit the head, This specific video doesn't really prove your point, but I do get it. It's the same shit with all projectiles tho, junkrat bombs, s76 missles, zenyata orbs, mei icicles, etc. you catch my drift.
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>>148229261
Sombra is going to be the new zen 100%. Fun for a week then you will get shit for picking her.
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>>148229651
all maps are attack sided
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>>148229408
76 cannot shred tanks point blank. 76 also can't sneak into the enemy team's backline or reach certains places on the map. Unlike other flankers he's not squishy and can heal himself. There's also not much competition as other flankers have trouble with tanks so their targets are different.
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>>148229427
you...you do know what having a low skill floor an a high skill floor actually mean, right?
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Who wants to group up on xboxone only ever played with randies and lose too much
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I want Mei to be mine.
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Should Concusion Mine damage Junkrat?
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>>148229298
no, i dont
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>>148229758
you're mistaking skill floor for skill ceiling you dumb twat
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>>148229748
>should we make Junkrat useless?
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>>148229651
>could barely push it after the 2nd point on gibraltar
>expect low morale and shit talk
>full hold after 1st point
Surprising easy points.
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>>148229741
>>148229616
>what is a skill ceiling
Keep your memes to a minimum retards.
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>>148229616
>>148229813
a high skill floor means the worst you can be is pretty high

a high skill ceiling means the best you can be is pretty high

and vice versa
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>>148229631
>he's white

Oh tumblr.
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>you will never make Tracer moan
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Is masteroverwatch not updating correctly for anyone else?
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>>148229758
>it's a "misunderstand and misuse /v/ buzzwords while acting pretentious about it" episode

this 1 again? c'mon, stupid rerun
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>>148229148
Why don't you use OBS for recording? Shadowplay works fine too. If you don't care about pirating pirate fraps or dxTory,
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>>148229838
>fix hanzos hitboxes
>this hero's skill floor is way too high
>skill floor
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What's with all the latest Reinhardt PoTGs? In my last 5 matches, 4 were Reinhardt. Did he get a buff?
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>>148229874
what the fuck is wrong with the part in her hair
makes her forehead look like it extends past the top of the picture
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sombra when, theyre half an hour late
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>>148229926
Yes anon. Please educate yourself before posting again. You cannot play worse than a skill floor.
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>>148229939
CATCHPRAHSE
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Why are there so many chinks in my game
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>>148229994
It's 7:33 am here. The launcher says 7-9 am PDT. The timezone I'm in.
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>>148229848
Skill floor is the minimum skill you require to play effectively
Skill ceiling is the maximum effectivity you can have given the highest skill amount possible by human standards

The fact that they describe two different things while still having "Skill" in their descriptor is what confuses people, I guess
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>>148229939
Means the rest of your team forgot to press Q for potg. BRING ME ANOTHER
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>>148229848
Skill floor is the minimum skill you need to be decent at a hero. That means a high skill floor means you need to be good at the fundementals of a game to play them effectively. Low skill floor is being able to do fine without much experience.

Skill ceiling is skill needed to be very good or "master" a character. High means it is very difficult to be the best with a character and learn their ins and outs, with low meanings its not very hard.
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>>148229896
use dotabuff, i mean overbuff


seriously though, with how much detail they put into tracking dota 2 records overbuff would probably have more accuracy on stats.

though the stat updates there take hours or something
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>>148229631
>why such hate for junkrat
Because he literally loses you games by giving free charge to cyka. He's worse than every shitter Hanzo you've met.
>enemy has an obligatory retard junkrat because the tooltip said NO DEFENCE HEROES
>our cyka at constant 100%
>switch to double cyka
>proceed to rape with black holes every 30s bacause the retard is still playing shitrat
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So /owg/, what was your initial rank and what rank are you now?
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>>148230061
>Skill floor is the minimum skill you require to play effectively
see >>148229996
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>>148229873
Tbf though I think Junkrat's just a really obnoxious character. To call him Borderlands: the Hero fits him exactly
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>>148230130
51

49

Then again I've played like 20 matches or so, so I've been constantly in the limbo.
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How do we make Symmetra usable on more than the first two stages of 3 maps?
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>>148229996
skill floor just means how much skill you need to play something

skill ceiling is how high you can take it with skill
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>>148230194
I started at 49 and i'm at 55 just now, eventually you'll get into it, so don't worry.
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>>148230130
52. Then I played one game and dropped to 51. I haven't played comp since
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Since you guys seem to be struggling with this.
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>>148230130
50

54

I've been on a wild rollercoaster of elo hell, and I'm glad I'm back to making gains again.
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>>148230124
>tfw people won't stop shooting with the shield up

I love her saying MAXIMUM CHARGE
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>load up overwatch
>ranked
>play 3 koth back to back
>they all go the distance
>lose all of them
>get kicked from server on the first non koth match
>have to play dark souls now
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>>148230079
>kill a Roadhog with a Pin
>DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION NOW?
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>play solo comp for the first time because my usual team is away
>map is anubis and they wreck us on defense
>whe go offense and i pick d.va because my team cant handle the fact that they have a bastion
>kill the bastion and harass their sniper so my team can push
>drop the bomb after our rein charged and we cap the point
>switch back to junkrat on defense and we get wrecked again
>tell team that we will need reaper on defense because they have two tanks
>our other tank switches to reaper and i have to switch from d.va to a main tank because she can't tank for shit
>nobody can handle the bastion
Never again.
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>>148230220
Cool down on her turrets needs to drop by 1 or 2 seconds. You should be able to spam that shit
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>>148230278
and if my skill is below the floor, where do i fit on that metric

one cannot play worse than the skill floor
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>>148229308
There aren't many people there. It usually mixes some high 70s, low 70s, and 1-2 60s. Duo around rak 80 guaranteed to have 4 low 60 shitters.
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>play nothing but Reinhardt
>know I'm always useful
>know I'm always spreading justice
>know every day I am coming closer to having an actual catchphrase
>hitting people with a giant hammer and then charging them into a wall is never not effective
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>>148230130
Was 51, am 51.
Fuck leavers to death.
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>>148230307
Post yfw MAXIMUM CHARGE
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>be west coast US
>always at least 3 korean genjis per game

gotta abuse the high ping melee exploit while it lasts
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>>148230371
he's not that good on koth maps tbqf
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>>148230358
you can't play the hero at any real level then
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>>148230178
>when /v/ calls Mad Max inspired aesthetics "Borderlands"

I know it shouldn't be surprising that video game enthusiasts will use that as a frame of reference but where do you think Fallout and Borderlands got their looks from? Both junker heroes are even Australian.
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>>148230130
48 > 68 > 56

Fucking hate this game
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>>148230124
>>148230307
Zarya is pretty much in every comp game now because shitters don't know how to stop shooting her. That and her bubble shields serve as counters for almost any situation and can easily be exploited for free full charge.
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>>148230130
was 57, still 57

Haven't played a game of OW since finishing placements lel, it's getting stale
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>>148230154
a Hero with a high skill floor means the skill required to play the hero effectively is high
a Hero with a low skill floor means that the skill required to play the hero effectively is low

a Hero with a high skill ceiling means the hero, played with high skill, is very effective and the threshold by which more skill doesn't translate to more effectiveness is high
a Hero with a low skill ciling means the hero, played with high skill, is not very effective and the threshold by which more skill doesn't translate to more effectiveness is low
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>>148230130
Started at 44, highest has been 56, right now at 50.
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>>148230358
you can

you can be too bad to play a character
the skill floor is not the minimum level of play possible but the minimum level of play required to be able to perform on a character
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>>148230220
Instead of a teleporter, after the game proceeds to the last point she instead can detonate a landmine with an explosive radius and damage equal to tracers mine that must be preset, and has a slight delay before detonating
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>>148230371
I've had a few games lately where everybody has just been ricocheting off my charge, even a few people I could have sworn were dead center.
Feels bad man.
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>>148230480
cobalt for poorfags, valk if not
cobalt is pretty nice though
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>>148230278
here you go idiot
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>>148230480
How is that even a question? Carbon, obviously.
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>>148230358
you're below skill floor, and you can't play effectively

you're literally the braindead retard that keeps spamming uncharged arrows as hanzo
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>>148230448
Correct but I'd change the fourth statement to

a Hero with a low skill ciling means the hero, played with high skill, is not significantly more effective than played by lower skill levels and the threshold by which more skill doesn't translate to more effectiveness is low
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>>148230154
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>>148230480
Mist.
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>>148230130
58, now 51, I'm balding early.
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>have a bunch of other games to play
>every single day just start overwatch instead

how do i free myself from this curse
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>>148230480
Devil
Valk a shit
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>>148230417
It's worse when someone shoots her a few times and then waits for it to drop. Especially if they are someone like Reaper.

Like if you are Reaper and you accidentally shoot her shield once, just commit to it and keep shooting her to pop her shield, you already gave her a high charge now you are just letting her shoot you for no reason.
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>>148230579
>or useful ult
>or respectable health pool
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>>148230543
Skill floor and ceiling has literally zero to do with how strong a character is and the fact you think Hanzo is OP is telling.
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>all these shitters stuck at 50

LMAO
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>>148230220
Instead of a teleporter, her ult now allows the next 6 teammates to spawn instantly.

Reduce charge rate to compensate accordingly.
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>>148230660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKLmoDsB180
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>>148230579
kek
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>>148230570
You're repeating yourself there
>not significantly more effective than played by lower skill levels
>the threshold by which more skill doesn't translate to more effectiveness is low
mean more or less the same thing
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>>148230417
>Cyka Industries
>Defense
>No healers
>Me as Zarya
>Successfully defend the first point from attackers because I applied barrier to every teammate when needed
>71% avg. energy
>"I guess we don't need healers when we have mother Russia"
>Get POTM and legendary commends
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>>148230704
it's sad that they think 50 is """"""""""""""""average""""""""""""""
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>>148230178
It's like, it's cool if you don't like a character because they're a pain in game.

But spending hours of your day blogging about how gross that one character is because he's white and sometimes depicted as straight is just ??????
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>>148230413
It's just Mad Max done poorly. Older Mad Max is mostly cheesy camp, which is fine in a movie but it wears on you if you're playing for hours on end. He's really fun to play as and he's not unbearable, but personality-wise he's bottom tier for me
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>>148230748
Yeah, in fact I'd remove it altogether. Just saying that
>played with high skill, is not very effective

Is not true as evidenced by characters like Winston.
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>>148230709
>le sponsored pro gamer with a damage bot on his ass against pubshits
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>that guy who has mic but uses it solely to complain about his team
>doesn't relay a single bit of useful information, nothing about what ults enemies might have or to group up when he needs you to
>just "you're all idiots, fucking stupid team" every time he dies
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>>148230772
Just don't take the blog too seriously, mate. Or block them if you really don't want to see their stuff.
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>>148230480
Redhead.
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>>148230709
Wow a proffessional player in a 4-man premade with a pocket Mercy beating people 10-20 ranks lower than him, this changes everything.
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Does Tracer really sometimes say "wanker" after getting a kill?
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>>148230772
It's just tumblr chill out

gay ships best ships tho
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>>148230801
I dig rat man because he's so overdone and daft? like, he takes the wacky mad max vibe to such a tacky level it's meta funny

haha he made a joke about blowing things up! haha oh boy whatta good one junkrat keep it up boyo!
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>>148230637
>>148230762

I'm being honest when I say I think she needs a nerf. Currently she eclipses every other tank in usefulness. Her bubble shields even serve as counters for other tanks, such as Roadhog's hook and Reinhardt's charge. Currently the tank meta is one of her and one of Roadhog on every team I've faced against because it works on every map and every team composition.
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>People still shit on bastion when he unilaterally shits on tank meta
What a sad state of affairs
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>>148230772
>autism isn't a mental illness even
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>>148230772
Venting about even the pettiest shit is kind of a tumblr thing.
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>>148230816
I love that guy, he just bitches and yells all game and wonders why noone else will use the mic.

Will just play Genji all match but won't even look at their Bastion.
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Dog with a gun taped to its back hero WHEN
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>>148230865
naw, i'm not super fussed over it. just like. i don't get it. i saw one of their posts and i was like "haha that's hilarious" then I went on the blog and realised...,,,, they are serious..,,, oopsie poopsie

>>148230937
roadrat a good
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>>148230918
I believe it may be Punk Tracer only, but I can confirm she absolutely does say it.
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>>148230709
?????????? what does this have to do with skill floor/ceiling? hanzo has idiotic hitboxes and even teh streamer in that video recognizes it as he laughs at his own ridiculous kills. how hard is it to understand such a simple concept?

a skill floor is the minimum lvl of skill needed to play a character sufficiently. for instance im a shitter so i play less demanding heroes with more forgiving skill floors and stay away from heroes with high skill floors like genji/tracer
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>>148230810
>>148230915
>hits every headshot
>way better than you are at the game
>plays hanzo effortlessly
>"y-y-your not a-allowed to b-be g-g-good"
>"d-damage b-b-boosted"
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>>148231029
>To its back
>Not the sides

Do you even gun
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>>148230957
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>>148230772
>it's a het ship as a con

Don't value Tumblr's opinion in the slightest. Least of all that kind of tumblrite. Besides everyone knows Junkmetra is just a porn pairing, forcing Symmetra to indulge in uncleanliness kind of thing.
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>>148231008
Bastion is literally the easiest character in the game to counter besides maybe Torb. Funnily enough they're countered by the characters they're supposed to stop, flankers.
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>>148230772

To be fair I dont think a person like Symemtra could stand Junkrat even being in her general presence at all
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Delete hanzo
Delete roadhog
Nerf reinhardt

Game is fixed
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Bastion needs a buff, seriously speaking you really can't play him unless your entire team is built around him, and everyone with half a brain can easily deal with him even if he's constantly moving around.

I don't know what to buff though. Maybe the time it takes to shift positions?
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>>148231059
I didn't say he wasn't good but stomping pub players with a damage bot on your ass isn't proof of anything you nuthugger
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>>148231054
>stay away from heroes with high skill floors like genji/tracer

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA AHHHHHHH HAAAAA HAHAHAHAH AHAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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>>148231115
That's sort of the point. It's that kind of pairing.
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>>148231059
Did you want to prove a point or did you just want to indulge in some good old streamer worship and dicksucking?
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>>148231068
Tentacle with a knife hero WHEN
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>>148230371
>sniping widowmakers reinhardt style
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>>148231059

Take this and never post this again.
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>tfw addicted to the adrenaline of competitive

Quick Play is impossible to enjoy anymore
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>>148230772
Take solace in the fact that tumblr has exploded in porn and is slowly being used as the go to for r34.

All the tumblrites have to be bombarded by their favorite characters being plowed in misogynistic ways. Their safe space has become less so or else posts like that wouldn't exist.
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>>148230307
In Japanese she just shouts DAI-POWAH DAAA which is bonerfuel.
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Does anyone have the webm of the widow getting outplayed by the lucio
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>>148231147
>>148231108
He really doesnt need a buff. He has amazing dps that you can abuse an unsuspecting team with, and as long as you set up in a good choke with the sense to actually move between waves of enemies, hes totally viable as a defender.

most people suck with him and he is inherently a niche choice but hes good if the other team is loaded on tanks and the map helps counter stupid crap like pharah and snipers suh as dorados final turn
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>>148231115
oh absolutely. same with mei. like, they're not gonna get along, and they're certainly not gonna fuck.

but yikes that doesn't make them abusive ships that are LITERALLY MURDERING autistic people irl.
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>>148231206
>Hero from Chernobyl with tentacles and weird powers
>Whenever he's paired with a female hero he makes lewd comments
>Whenever he's paired with a male hero he makes even lewder comments
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>>148231152
yes i recognize and admitted im a shitter? they may be shit easy to you but i have a hard time keeping up with how quickly theyre required to move and how unpredictable and flexible you have to be able to think in order to play them optimally. your point??
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>It's a seagull worship episode
>again
fuck this network desu
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>>148231337
>he's only good if the team is autistic and doesn't notice him
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>>148231409
Thats not the same thing as what i said. but it helps.
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how long until comp mm stops being shit?
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>>148231147
Some shield pen or something?

I don't know what you can do when so many can just ruin his day by themselves, he can't really counterplay to tracer\genji unless he gets lucky.
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What level did you start comp at? I'm 51 and haven't touched it yet, I still don't feel gud
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>>148231147
he's a pubstomper
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>>148230957
All tanks are equally strong in current tank meta. Except for dva of course. People are too afraid to focus her when she rushes you with her shield up. It's impossible to not shoot team shields of a good zarya but you should definitely focus her through self shield when she shows her face. It's only 600 hp total, literally same as hog. What happens now is some people on the focus her and some don't so she does her damage, gets some charge and then fucks off out of los.
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>>148231384
>keep getting matched with seagull
>he's literally nothing but a shitter with a 24/7 pocket healer that used to queue into quickplay, get fucked, and then start tryharding last minute for maymays
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SENPAI WINSTON IS SO SATISFYING.
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>>148231475
>Some shield pen or something?
That'd make him unstoppable
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>>148231507
What are you concerned about regarding joining competitive
Even if you get placed low you´re still going to be earning competitive points for the golden gun
You want that golden gun right?
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you all ready to continuously die because your support sniper missed the healshot on you?
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>>148231475
His problem is kit based. You can't really fix him without significant changes.
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Do people think we're actually getting Sombra today? The only out of game promo they've done is that rifle prototype picture. They haven't milked it nearly enough.
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>>148231568
yeah maybe for like the first 2 games after buying the game, after that literally everyone realizes a bastion exists and then kills him

bastion stealth W H E N

>>148231475
Yeah, and I'm not in favor of bringing back the shield either so he's pretty much fukt
He's going to be blizzard's eternal disaster, he needs a new kit but they won't ever do so.
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>>148231715
What made people think we'd be getting updates today?
It's fucking tuesday

Also last webm
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>>148231715
We're not getting anything until after SDCC. That's when they're revealing the new hero
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>>148231785
they patch on Tuesdays mate
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>go bastion on king's row attack
>it just werks
>every time someone complains throughout the entire game
>every time I have four gold medals (not counting healing)

why must people be so upset, king's row is a very close quarters map where tanks shine so bastion works pretty well on shredding them, especially on the first point

just now this one guy left the game at the last minute (after which we made a push and won) and invited me to a group just to talk even more shit

like how seriously can you take quick play? I know they want to win and all but good lord
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>>148231715
Previously they always did a promo 1 week before launching a character on the site, but that doesn't translate to launching into game

I think we'll get an update to the official site with her bio and kit, no character until ComicCon
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>lose
>lose .5 of a rank
>win
>gain .25 of a rank

What the fuck is this game
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>>148231580
He's really mediocre compared to some other pros. His hero pool is like 3-4 max when actually good turbonerds have 10+.
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>>148231839
That's fucking retarded
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>>148231841
never ever keep chat on when quickplaying
never
fucking
ever

this should be in OP 2bh
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>>148231608
I'm surprised so many people don't understand that he can change modes in mid-air.
Some of the best solo-queue Bastion's I've seen have gone flanking routes, then jumped from a balcony while transforming to mow unsuspecting people down.
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>>148231876
>he hasn't played ranked in a game before
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>ITS NORMAL I DON'T CARE.
>I CAN SUCK DICK ON WIDOW ALL GAME.
thanks blizzard.
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>>148231576
This is simply not true. Zarya is the best tank overall because she works on any map or gamemode and her shields can prevent things that Reinhardt's can't. Nor does it take long for her to become the most damaging tank with her damage boost. Her comparatively low health is made up with the fact that half of it regenerates over time, and I find that it takes the longest to kill her out of any other tank hero during matches.

Reinhardt and Roadhog are a step down from her, where they both pair well with her but are more situational than her. Reinhardt is not very good on koth like she is and Roadhog gets countered by Zarya. Where Zarya was once the sub-tank, Reinhardt and Roadhog have become the sub tanks, where Reinhardt provides pushing power and free damage to her because shooting his shield gives her charge, and Roadhog gives a source of damage to go with her protection.

Winston is only useful as a counter to Genji and Tracer or as a pick for padding out Overtime. His barriers are nice, but since they break so quickly Zarya's bubbles tend to help more, or Reinhardt's shield.

D.VA is just useless.
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Am I being retarded for playing in PC with a PS3 Joystick? I never learned to move with keyboard (and in general is true that regarding mobility is better a joystick than a keyboard) but aim is definitely better with a mouse. Should i learn to change or stay casual and git gud in heroes that don't require aim/move a lot?
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>>148231876
It means you are too shit for your current mmr.
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>people still die to d.va in 100+
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>>148231893
And like 2 of those 4 characters he's noticeably worse at. I don't get the hype around him. It seems he was just in the right place in the right time. Without shayed he's pretty much just like all the other shitters in this thread.
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>>148231905
meh, I'm used to it from GW2
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>>148230480
Imp
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How do you get the 100 meter payload escort achievement? Just sit as bastion/reinhardt? Like what's the distance you need to do
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>>148231905
Is this your first online only game?
Most companies now do their patches on Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday so that when servers go down they are impacting the least amount of players.
Blizzard has historically chosen Tuesday and continue to do so for all of their games, which is why they get pissed off when someone at Apple or Amazon says "Oh it's friday should we put up the patch now instead of following directions?" in Hearthstone and it breaks shit.
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>>148232105
100 meters
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>>148231893
Right place at the right time. He was one of the first to stream, he streamed a character people like, viewbotted to make it so everybody was like "wow check out this guy!", people actually started to tune in and then his fanbase stuck.
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>tfw you're winning most of your Pharah dogfights
air superiority nigga
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>>148232139
Pls>>148232181
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>>148231608
Yeah I know but I don't know what you'd change to him without a rework, I don't mean 100% pen, just like 10% or something. I miss beta bastion, it was fun.
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>>148232105
To give you an idea of the distance sit on the payload in kings row until you hit the checkpoint before the end of the map, where you begin entering the large tunnel/corridor
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>I'm soldier
>we have a mercy
>get healing gold medal
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>>148232115
Wednesday and Thursday are the go-to and for good reasons, updating on monday, tuesday or friday is a sureway to get your shit pushed in
Updating on tuesday is just like updating on monday or friday desu
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>>148231983
>Winston is only useful as a counter to Genji and Tracer or as a pick for padding out Overtime.
Lad, you are embarrassing yourself with that line. One winston is a situational pick but 2 is meta on both koth and 2cp and that's 6 maps. Not to mention winston does not counter tracer, she absolutely shits on him and gets a free ult at the same time. Can you shitters stop posting your r50 opinions on balance, please?
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>>148232309
>I'm soldier
IM HONEStly SO FUCkING TIRED OF YouR FUCKING SHIT
GO PLAY FUCKING CLAL OF DUTY BATLIFLE OR WHATEVER INSTEAD FU YOU
FUCK IDKT
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>>148232309
Was she able to stay alive or was she dying for most of the match??
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>>148231925
I bet people haven't realized that transforming is also a free reload
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>>148232387
Post rank
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>>148232301
Thanks, that's what I was looking for
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>>148232334
Well, Blizzard has been doing maintenance on Tuesdays for over a decade, so I doubt they'll be changing.

Anyway, do we know if we're getting a patch today?
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I want Mercy to hug me
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>>148232387
>t. rank 30 Winston player
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Roadhog and McCree are so similar actually.

Both have (or had) an instagib combo.
Both are mostly immobile.
Both have a CC skill to chain into this instagib combo.

The difference is McCree had 200 HP, no selfheal and 10 second on flashbang (which had much shorter range than hook) and he was removed from the game while Roadhog has 600HP, a 300HP heal, a 6s CD hook and can actually instagib people at midrange with correct spacing and he's totally balanced and OK because you can build ult off him.
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>>148232387
>hit rank 65
>enemy team has 2 winston 2 tracer 2 lucio
>someone says only way to counter is by doing same
>except we have a reaper instead of second tracer
We won easily but god damn the Overtime was longer than the fucking buildup time.
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>>148232478
this is how you get injected with nanobots and forced into her infernal puppetry
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>>148231983
>winston
>counter to tracer
how's sub 60 life
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What will they patch now?

I hope we get hero limit at least in comp.
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>>148232452
This. Its pretty great
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>>148232551
You neglected to mention the difference in ults and how mcrees pistol was essentially a railgun
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>>148230918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktl2TQK56o
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>>148232557
would be worth it to be honest
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>>148232537
>He called out my shit rank
>I better call out his rank as something absurdly low, that'll show him!

Just stop.
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>>148229236
I have 22 hours on Lucio. After two soloqueue games on Lucio in ranked, I'm never going to play him solo.
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>>148232627
2-1-1-1-1 would be nice
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>>148232387
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>>148232627
I hope they patch my pussy honestly it leaks way too much when young genji is on screen
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>>148230130
45

15
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>>148232551
The difference is McCree doesn't take potshots from across the map, can reliably pressure people more than 5 feet away without having a hook off cooldown, and actually requires a bit of aiming, positioning and awareness to not suck with.
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>>148232660
The way she says it.

Hot.
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>>148232656
McCree's pistol is more of a peashooter beyond 15 meters and his ult is overrated as shit and I'd actually take Roadhog's faster charging ult over it.
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>>148232694
his damage is fine considering people can't escape him
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>>148232667
You're the one who thinks Winston is on par with Reinhardt, Zarya, and Roadhog when his damage is shit and his shielding is worse than both Reinhardt and Zarya. Even his ult is only good for pushing off people from a point, which Roadhog's does better and can actually kill sometimes.
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>open up loot box
>oh shit a legendary!
>I bet it'll be for someone I never play tho-
>Blackhardt
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>>148232694
his damage is stupid considering he can chase you across the map, doesn't have to aim it, hits everybody in his line of sight and he has 500 fucking HP and a barrier he can lame you out with
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>>148232656
>mccree shooting long range
>railgun
Holy smokes Zenyatta, quit it with the salt.
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here we go boys
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>>148232694
>implying this isn't well made up for by being able to damage any number of enemy's through shields and track everything within it's cone
Just like Genji can't do shit against a team with a fully covered backline or Pharah is hard countered by someone who can aim.
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>>148232754
don't be silly now, hog's ult is one of the worst in the game
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>>148232870
>>148232804
>implying apefags are ever brave enough to leave their barrier

Literally just walk away from the barrier and they won't pursue.
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>>148232905
IBS HABBIDIG
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