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Fun but Shit edition

http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/
http://evolve.wikia.com/wiki/Evolve_Wiki

>What is Evolve (stage 2)?
Evolve uses an asymmetrical structure where five players, four playing as hunters and one as the monster, battle against each other in an industrialized alien planet called Shear.
Stage 2 is the transition to Free To Play + a lot of gameplay changes.

>I heard the game was dead?
It was (at least on PC). 100-200 players and little to no updates from the developers. If F2P can bring it back is unknown, but as of right now 18k people are playing it.

>Should I "get" it?
It's free. 18GB. Download and test it out.

>F2P Model?
Copy paste:

Every week, four hunters (one of each class) and one monster will be in the free rotation. There are currently 24 Hunters and 7 Monsters in total, though some are variations of others. By playing the character tutorials, you unlock one hunter (Markov) and one monster (The Goliath) to keep forever.

Additional monsters, hunters, perks, and skins are unlocked by earning silver keys. Silver keys are earned by playing the game, leveling up, or getting login bonuses. Currently you can't actually buy silver keys, presumably so they can test the unlock rate, but that's coming later.

There is also a monthly login bonus punch card. You get one punch for each day you log in. Beyond silver keys, this can directly award new Hunters and Skins.

>Microtransation?
None as of yet.

>Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vg-Evolve

Last thread: >>148149483
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1st for everything I lose to is OP :(
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What perks do you like for Goliath, Kraken, and Gorgon?
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>>148200603
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SxxXgtDs2Q

Thread theme
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>>148200482
why are its intestines hanging out?
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behemoth is kinda shitty but I'm winning somehow

I don't like how half of his moves take 50 million years to fire though
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>>148200601
do you know who has bronze and gold for this?
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Reposting this becasue I would like help

Mostly play Hyde or lennox

Hyde I take bounty hunter becasue grenade

but what should I take for lennox?
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>>148200642
Smell if you want to play Hide and Seek, armor if you enjoy early brawls.
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>>148194527
Hey you, how do you play Val? Just stay on cliff and hold the medgun on everyone?
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i am seeing more and more often, someone intentionally suicides at the beginning of stage 3 to start the respawn timer.

is this a real thing now? should i just ignore the suicider untill i get to the generator? but then he will be int he jungle and i wont catch him and they respawn anyway...

what do?
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Wraith has nice tits and hips.
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>>148200956
dmg, reload, reload. Fist their face.
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>>148201082

Wait reload helps lennox?
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Torvald is an abomination
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>>148201124
yes, but can you land those punches?
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>play as monster
>both goliath, behemoth, the spider-one
>21 win streak
>play as medic
>we lose because everyone scattered
>play medic again
>we lose because "HURR DURR LETS DOME IN THE TOXIC SWAMP IN THE EDGE OF THE MAP WHERE THERE'S NO HIGH GROUND"
>rage.tiff.tga.png.exe
>play as the spider-one
>reach stage 3
>could have killed them several time at stage 2 but meh, I like playing with my preys
>kill 3 of them whithout losing half my shield
>game fade, i'm back in the lobby, stuck
>WHAT THE FUCK
>check my stats
>it counts as a lise
>goobdye 11.5 win/lose ratio
>hello 5.75

alt + f4

God damnit I could handle that one bug but with the accumulated rage of those fucking retarded hunters it was too much.
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I wish wraith was my mom
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>give up chasing gorgon
>whole team agrees to go back to relay
>bust a fucking gut cracking up as we "form a defensive line"
>gorgon approaches
>looks at us as if we're retarded
>wipes us

gg
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does reload speed affect cooldown weapons like lightning gun? also what does the +10% energy capacity perk do?
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>People salty in voice chat after a game
Embarrassing.
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How are Health regen perks for Hunters? If I'm medic and I stack 3 health regen perks, will I just be a damage sponge?
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>>148201309
ive so far never experienced this or a /all at all

glad it hasn't yet
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>>148201380
no, theres a delay before regen starts up and deactivates when you're hit.
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>>148201437
oh, gay. Just spam Jetpack perks then?
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I don't think there's any point in killing someone outright at stage 1

>get domed
>kill someone and lose a bunch of HP in the process
>go heal
>within 2 minutes they're back and I'm domed again
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>>148201053
Yep, and keep it dotted if you're R.V

Most of the skill comes from handling the pressure.

R.V. has really good damage.

Regular Val has more utility and burst healing.
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>>148200482
>mfw playing behemoth vs lennox
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>>148201687
Should I bother with the weakpoint rifle at all? Why not tranqs? Tranqs work a treat when the dome comes down.
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Why are my teammates so shit always
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>>148201070
plz respond. i know that shitposting is easier, but this is a real discussion post
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I hope this game dies again

Fucking wraith and kraken are the again the reason why people will quit this game
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I know you can get Founders status by buying a key for the original game but those are around $15 on G2A. However, there's a DLC pack for $3. Would that work? Or would Steam bitch at me for trying to register DLC for a game I don't actually own?
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>>148201862
If you've got the time. I would prioritise tranq over the sniper, but it can change depending on the comp. Only projectile weapons can hit weak points, so if you've got someone like Hyde you're not going to get that muse of it, probably.

Tranqs are excellent outside of the dome, you should always be trying to tranq the monster.
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>>148201070
>>148201992

Fuck off
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>>148201070
Seems risky af.

If I see that I rush the 3 remaining fuckers asap.
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>silver endurance
>12% traversal regen
>silver fast climber
>35% climb speed 14% traversal regen

Why does endurance even exist when fast climber/speed climber is straight up better in traversal regen and also gives you climb speed
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>>148200482
Who is the best in every class?

Is Monster unbalanced or something? I fucking suck and got dropped to 1/3rd HP after being domed a third time and all I did was bull rush and slam jam the medic and trapper and boom. Half the team was dead while I ignored the Assault. After everyone keeping him alive was dead it was easy to wait until the cooldowns were up and just CC/rushslam him to death. I got caught lots and missed a lot of attacks and barely hit stage 2 before that final dome and I still slapped their shit.
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>>148202350
There's no "best."

There are different comps, different characters synergise better with others.
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>>148202538
I want to hurt the monster and I am tired of leap fucking happy monsters that run all the time and run in combat. I want to put damage on target at range and force the monster to target me or get chipped like a mother fucker.
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Is it rude to not evolve and just attack the hunters until I die level 1 and nbever run away if I don't think they have a chance if I play properly?

Would you rather be given a pity win or just lose constantly?
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>>148202650
>I want to put damage on target at range and force the monster to target me or get chipped like a mother fucker.

Crow.
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>>148202650
so you want to play Left 4 Dead?
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What does the +10% energy perk do? I thought it would increase clip size but it didn't.
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>its a "turtlerock gold kraken gets rekt when trying to spawnwipe" episode
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>>148202202
I didn't get the DLC and I got everything except gorgon and 8 hunters

I kinda wish I got it since it would have only cost me a dollar more but I don't play hunter at all so I guess it's no big loss, I already bought gorgon with keys
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should i get elder kraken or wraith?
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>>148202814
turtlerock gold? everyone can get that skin
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>>148202918
wraith is easy mode and easy points

elder kraken is fun for both sides
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>>148202918
Do you want to blow shit up or dice shit up?
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>>148202102
>I'm only level 3 but I can still complain about things being op.
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>>148203127
Wraith and Kraken are unbalanced.
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>LET'S NUKE IT UNTIL IT GLOWS THEN FUCK IT IN THE DARK

EMET confirmed goat
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>>148203326

Breh that's 14 year old humor. Everyone knows Slim's got the best bantz.
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What perks do I want as medic I been trying to get anything dealing with the jetpack since the monster always goes my pass but sometimes its just not enough.
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>>148203176
>I'm bad at the game and don't know how to counter monsters so I will just complain on reddit until they're nerfed.
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Best perks for Gorgon?
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>it's a veteran that prefers monster leaves because he didn't monster episode

why are these legacy players such massive faggots?
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>>148202538
Yes there are, because balance is fucked right now.

EMET and Val
Sunny, Hank, Bucket if in a premade
Abe or Griffin
The Markovs and Lennox
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>>148203070
>>148203093
i-i don't know
what is like playing with them?
i never played against an elder
i like gorgon if helps
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>Love Evolve
>Tried to do threads about it because it was awesome
>Nobody responded but shitposting and claims about the price
>okay.jpg
>Becomes free
>Everyone loves it now
>It's not even half the content the game had
>Still feel bad man

I hope they reintroduce what was taken in some form or another.
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What's the point of Goliath if Meteorite one destroys him completely?
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>>148203682
It's a second beta right now anon, they're probably sitting on the removed maps/game modes for "full release" of Stage 2
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>>148203524
elder kraken is worse than regular kraken, get wraith
at least for a different playstyle, if you already have kraken
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>>148203524
Wraith used to be stealth and sneaking shenanigans, now its just decoy double team shenanigans. EKraken is supercharged versions of the kraken spells. All abilities are red, and have a horrifying sound effect. Its lightning doesn't charge so it goes exactly where you first press, and it comes out faster for 500 damage. banshee mines are now a banshee missile, which i don't like so much but i can see its use. Its AOE ability chains after it hits a target and seems to do more damage to me, and its version of vortex doesn't push, does less damage it seems and is shorter but sticks around in a giant cone for damage over time.
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Is Maggie any good?

Seems like a lot of time is wasted following the tracks exactly as the monster is faster. I like the idea of the pet doing that for the team while we cut it off.
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>Won for the first time as Goliath as my second attempt at a real match
feels pretty fucking good man, when you finally get the upper hand after being bullied so hard at the start of the match
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>>148203754
lol...
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>pick lennox
>destroys everything
it happens everytime
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>>148203426
Sorry friend, but it's disappointing to lose a double-digit win streak because of something dumb and out of your control, like any one of your three allies not knowing basic concepts.

You can't really carry people as a hunter, and it's really difficult to get my friends to play this because of all the bugs and the party system booting someone out in favor of a random person or just breaking entirely. And even if you do manage to sucker three people into joining you and it doesn't break up the group, one of you will likely get placed as monster for some insane reason. The whole experience is just awful, and playing only monster is the only way to get around it.
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>>148203474
>Yes there are
>Lists 3/6 supports

Cabot was considered garbage ever since the nerfs, didn't receive any buffs, but then DDs started playing him and then he was picked up a bunch of other teams.

Point is, there's no single "Best," for any class.
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What does traversal regen do?
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For some reason I'm garbage with kraken.
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>>148203861
I'm not sure about regular maggie but wasteland maggie is total fucking trash that i wasted 8000 keys on
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>>148204024
fuck off retard, if you're a vet you should be teaching people the game not pub stomping them so they quit and kill the game again.

or did you hate the game so much you'd rather it be dead again ?
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>throw up my wall as behemoth
>immediately there's a gap in it and the person I trapped inside runs away

this shit literally just cost me the game
why is behemoth so fucking buggy

>>148204080
it refills your stamina bar so you can use your shift/spacebar skills more often
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>>148204080
It improves the speed at which your traversals regen.

Your traversal is your SPACE as the monster.
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>>148204151
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/evolve-feature-bug-roadmap/89846
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You know, I really wonder what kind of retarded mongoloid tactics people are using as the monster when they come in here and say they can't win a single match.
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>>148204151
I think it happens when there's some other force pushing them to where the section of wall is supposed to spawn

Either way Bob is pretty much awful right now (which is why you can't buy him) but still the most fun to play
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>>148204245
>Lava ability issues related to causing double damage to hunters

oh shit I'm going to try to abuse this

>>148204274
that makes sense, the guy was jetpacking towards a ceiling when I threw it up
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The damage and cooldown on Wraith's decoy are far too much.

It's simply ridiculous.
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>>148204257
I just won my first match, as far as I know, they dont realize you can be killed so easily at first and you gotta be stealthy and hide your tracks while spamming the Smell button. Its a bit of a learning curve if you're not used to it.

Thats how it is for me anyway.
Is Goliath considered good? Will he carry me far?
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I love crow.

https://youtu.be/M3eJwQKfv0g?t=24m57s
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>>148204024
>Caring about winstreaks

They never should have added this shit, all it encourages is ego-whoring and quitting lobbies when you don't get your preference.

Who gives a fuck about pubs. We have ranked now, if you've got ego, that's where to go.
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>>148204149
It's interesting you mention that. I was actually very eager to play hunter and work with new players when the big update happened, but I only ran into four receptive grounds in the first 30 or so hours of play, and everyone else was just indifferent or hostile about even innocuous things like saying where I was planting mines, asking for scans, etc. At some point you have to stop and just enjoy yourself before the game goes under again, though I do plan to get back into hunter in a few days after some of the more indifferent people have been weeded out and most people who are staying are interested in learning.

Also I don't evolve and I only play Goliath and Bob, so I'm not shitting on people that badly.
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Is maggie good?
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>>148204149
If people leave after losing a game then they shouldn't be play competitive games in the first place.

Also fuck off back to tumblr/reddit.
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>>148203421
Traversal, cool down and speed eating
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>winning a game as the last man standing on my team with less than 20% of my health and the assault shield up desperately trying to burn the last bar and a half of the wraith

Thank fucking god for lennox and her ground pound.
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>>148204828
voodoo maggie is better
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>it's a legacy player leaves because he didn't get the role he wanted episode

pathetic
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>Queue as monster for ranked to try out ranked
>Half an hour later..
Nice queues, Evolve.
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>>148203993
>pick lennox
>regularly get 4 combos with the lance
>doesnt matter, lose anyway

hanks who dont use shields can fuck right off.

also caira can fuck right off, literally the worst healer
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>>148204702
No one is playing ranked. I've sat in queue for literally 18 minutes before and didn't get any matches.

It's whatever to lose if you were honestly outplayed, but it's too bad if it was only because your medic tried to hand-revive a camped body, your assault was afraid of violence, and your trapper didn't know about the global scanner. If your allies don't understand how to play and won't respond positively to being helped you're just SOL and wasted your time.

I guess I blame the lack of instructions for new players. It's all so intuitive to me, but looking over these threads I can see they don't explain many of the mechanics. Bummer.
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>>148205087
Thats not lazarus or emet
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>>148201248
reload does not help lennox
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>>148205175
Laz with max cooldown perks is actually kind of hilarious because you can spam your heal like every three seconds. He's actually more durable than Rogue Val in that way, but his team-heals suck.
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what does the +10% capacity perk do?
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>>148205152
>won't respond positively
> wasted your time.
>I blame
>new players
> It's all so intuitive to me,
>Fuck them
wew lad can you coach me to be as good as you?
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Is it normal to always never win as hunter on low levels?
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What is your opinion on Torvald?
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>listen to dropship convesation because they're the best thing about the game
>slim straight tells kala to fuck off
>"Hello! You appear to be undergoing catastrophic genetic decay! Do you need assistance? WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU? YOU GOT SNAKES FOR HAIR UNDER THERE?"
Fucking EMET.
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>>148205601
increases the amount of shit you can shoot out of your things before you have to put more shit in them
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>>148205687
Obviously.
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>>148205698
Highest skill ceiling assault.
Probably the most fun.

Currently lacks the numbers to back him. Difficult to balance because he's hard to use.
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>>148205698
worst tier hunter
go back to lennox and markov because the meta is a thing and you will get bullied by the ultra experts for playing anyone but lennox and markov
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>>148205698
Fresh garbage

>>148205823
Lennox is most fun, easy.
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>>148205698
how does the human portion of him live? he clearly has no small or large intestines so he can't digest nutrients, and no kidneys for homeostasis
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>>148205698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONdLEqzhXOI
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>>148205860
>bullied by the ultra experts for playing anyone but lennox and markov
kraken is popular amongst non-baddies so lennox is a bad idea when there's no draft
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>buy jack instead of crow

KILL ME
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>>148205978
Anon you really think a future with healing beams and literal death defying devices that fit on your hand his metal bits cant do biological processes for him?
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So what, the monsters are actually the good guys since they are trying to destroy the reactors that power the colonies because the reactors are a technology no one understands and is emitting something that is turning the colonist into the different monsters we are hunting?
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>>148206097
Its okay anon just
His repulser is god tier if you can use it.
buy crow next time you dummy
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>>148205638
Sure thing, anon. I think one of the most important points to keep in mind is that you can't really help people who don't want to be helped. A lot of the time players are like that because they're overwhelmed by all this new sensory input, or they're in a negative emotional state because of previous rough matches, or they've had bad experience with competitive games and take friendly advice the wrong way, likely as sarcasm. Without repeated and prolonged exposure your attempts won't get through to them so don't stress yourself out about it! There are other games and other players to try again on, and eventually someone will benefit from your patience.

I'm glad you're interested in making the Evolve community a better place. Be patient and tenacious and try your best and I'm sure you'll make a great impact out there! Good luck, friend.
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>>148206180
Nah, the monsters are definitely controlled by someone, kala talks in an old mans voice in her sleep.
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>>148206326
Thanks anon, I'll try a bit harder now may all your hunts lead to glory.
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Just bought this handsome piece of junk.
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>>148206180
This has happened before on other planets, and the monsters utterly destroyed the worlds. It's safe to assume this is some war going on, not the planet stopping their use of the reactors.
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>beat someone with a 45 game streak
Ayy lmao.
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>>148206180
>>148206352
Well there not that bad guys, they only destroy patterson tech and don't mind letting humans live. but some people think they were "designed"
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>>148206501
Why would you buy him when he is given to you for free?
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>>148206501
Bucket is day fourth daily reward. Say goodbye to 5k credits.
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>>148206501
Bucket is an early free reward from daily logins.

Congratulations on being stupid.
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>>148206612
>>148206617
I didn't even know that, baka
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I regret buying this at Day 1 and never playing. I love Asymmetrical FPS this bombed so hard.
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>>148206180
The colony facilities are dismantled space ships.
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how do i teach my friend to play medic

it's all he wants to play and he isn't very good at it

i've told him everything i know but he still gets bodied and i want him to git gud
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>Put down my healing bouy where they fighting.
>One faggot always runs away from it with low hp
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>'legacy' player
>prefers monster
>change my preference to monster
>get monster
>he quits

LMAO

fucking fags.
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>>148206867
maybe i'm just retarded, but they can be hard to notice. i end up keeping my minimap up just so i can see whether i'm in their radius
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>>148206604
>and don't mind letting humans live.

This is honestly pretty interesting, how the monsters will sometimes outright ignore humans and go straight for the tech. Hopefully we get more story later on.
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>>148206872
how can you tell who the legacy players are?
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So this is the kind of people who prefer monster
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anyone know who gives gold reload perk?
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>>148207032
founders get some special animated badge. that guy you're responding to is for some reason butthurt about founders and keeps shitposting about them. he was doing it last thread too >>148200092
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>>148205978
I'd really doubt it if his robot parts didn't do a shit load of stuff for him.

Besides give him a penis ;_;
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>>148207113
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721252371
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>>148207106
Way to judge people.
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my opinion is probably shit and wrong since I'm new but I'm going to say it anyways because mad FUCK THE GOD DAMN SHIELD SUPPORT CAN PUT ON PEOPLE. IF THE TEAM IS COORDINATED IT TURNS METEOR GOLIATH FROM AN ASS RAPING TRAIN OF FUCK YOU TO A LITTLE BITCH WHO CANT HURT A GOD DAMN FLY. ALSO TRACKING DART LASTS GOD DAMN FOREVER FUCK.

>>148200993
also I'm going full on smell so I can see them from across the map. that shit has won me games plenty of times.
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>Play Val
>Team is retarded
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>>148207296
this guy's a shitter
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>>148206857
Tell him not to burn his jetpack to get to the dome.

Cliffs are his friend, the monster isn't.

He needs to stay where Hank/Sunny's drone/bucket's recharge can reach him.

When he gets downed, unless the monster is in rough shape, he should dropship as soon as whatever's AOEs your team can throw at his corpse have been spent (orbital barrage, hank's grenades, ect).
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>>148207313
but no really, how the fuck do I even hope to hide again when I get darted. if the enemy tracker is good with his slows then say fucking good bye to getting to the next form.
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>tfw hunters dome monster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lsJmwNO40
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>>148207482
Don't bother hiding? All the monsters are way faster than the hunters, try to keep towards the edge of the map or cutting over buildings forcing them to use jetpack intelligently.
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>>148206661
>>148206617
>>148206612
Tell me what else you get from log-ins anons
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>>148207131
t. founder
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>>148207482
>then say fucking good bye to getting to the next form
lol
you're a million times faster than all of them
just race from one end of the map to the other and then evolve
with the 50% egg armor and armor regen you will be full armor after eating 2 or 3 animals and ready to fight when they catch up to you
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>>148207482
>it's a monster stays in the open when I play Val episode
God damn, Val and Griffin are the fun police.
>monster tries to juke
>sound spotted
>tranqs and poons out the ass when he tries to run after a dome
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>>148207676
Senpai literally just go to extra on the main menu.
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>>148207106
Edgyness at its finest
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>>148207106
i played against him and he tried to cheese us at the start and got fucking raped
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>>148207746
>>148207736
>>148207628
>stays in the open
no I'm talking about once I've fucked up and gotten spotted. I'm still learning the maps and once I've been found once it's time for slow + tracking that lasts fucking forever. I mean I do believe theres a way around it but god damn it's so frustrating right now.
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>>148207858
like i said, the tracking doesn't matter because of your speed

as for slow, it doesn't stop your traversals, you can still leap at full speed and just los her so she cant tranq you, you don't really even need to try to los because there are so many shit on the maps it will happen naturally as you run away
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>>148207858
Hit tab for the map, seriously though. As long as you are not domed currently, you can fucking bolt as fast as possible away from them and grab some food. As long as they are outside your smell range, you can evolve faster than they can catch you. Yea sometimes they are on your cock for a bit and can be hard to lose, but you gotta start learning how to evade, and juke em
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What's up with monsters running away and then going afk at the first dome, awarding hunters an easy win? They don't even break my harpoons.

I get the absurd win rate of monster vs. hunters but it feels so hollow when you win this way.
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>>148207858
If you really can't run for shit, get domed in an advantageous spot (hunters hate indoors/caves with pillars you can circle), dunk the shit of the retard that'll burn his jetpack to catch you, and fuck off while they pick him up.
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>>148207973
Is there any purpose for sneaking other than sneak attacks? Or should I be constantly on the run?
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>>148207943
I'll go try it again but It really feels like when they have the rape laser of slow on you then its game
>>148207991
I guess I'll have to work on thinking about when I get domed then.

the pinpoint accuracy shields being used on a medic drive me up the fucking wall though. if you just got busted by a boulder to the face charged into the wall and set on fire then you should be closer to dying you fucks
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>Medic runs off alone and dies to a Spider trap
>Assault Domes in a tiny fucking cave a million miles from the respawn point before the Medic even respawns
>Game ends
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god damn griffin is fucking awful to play against
this game is incredibly frustrating
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Anyone else just DC?
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>>148208107
if you're playing goliath use charge to knock them off cliffs and out of LoS

you should be focusing on hank first over the medic anyways
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>>148208107
also It really feels like kraken is overpowered. even when people try to shield heal and all that shit the lighting just destroys their hopes and dreams.
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Being a hunter sucks desu
I'd rather be the monster anytime
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How to git gud as Sunny?

I feel much less useful than I do as Hank.
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Anyone know why some characters are at a reduced price sometimes? On the first day, Bucket was like 2500 silver keys. They were others but I forgot.
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>>148208115
>96 game win streak
yeah, playing as goliath is fucking awful compared to that
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>>148208208
support first? well shit I can try living that life then. I've been playing meteor goliath for the last few matches and I can't decide which one I like better.
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>>148208209
>the lighting just destroys their hopes and dreams
what is jetpack dodge
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>>148208097
Used to be, but now with all the tracking bullshit hunters have, seems like full out sprint is best. Although not leaving tracks on the ground is helpful sometimes.
>>148208107
>Attack medic, medic gets shielded, go fuck up the support til he cuts that shit out, either kill him or jump back on the medic.
You can also out damage the shielded medic if your armor is healthy, its just a pain in the ass.
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>>148208301
You can only dodge so much at a time, anon.
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>>148208136
>on a 14 game win streak as Goliath
>Griffin + Sunny + Caira + Blitz Markov
The fun ended there. Forever.
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is blitz markov any good?
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>>148208301
not something anyone I played against knows how to use. I haven't lost any kraken matches despite my struggles with goliath.
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>>148208209
They're retards, lightning is easier to dodge than your mines because every hunter calls it out (like goliath's rock throw) every time. If you land a lightning on more than one hunter, they're doing something seriously wrong.
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>>148208293
hank first, otherwise don't go support first. if it's not a hank you shouldn't have that much trouble from the shielding and it wouldn't matter who you attack anyways because they all get shielded from the support class team shield.
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>>148205032
>>148204148
I bought mad mags over regular mags. Haven't actually tried regular mags, mad mags seems decent so far. Even though she has one snare, the cool down is crazy low.

Daisy AI blows but she's good for reviving. I have to say I hate how she runs away at the slightest damage from the monster when attempting to revive. At least she can function as a 5th teammate and distract the monster.
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>>148208273
Not saying that guy does but a lot of people alt + f4 if things go south in order to keep winstreaks.
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>play with level 20s
>still have to repeatedly explain to people that they shouldn't pick people up when i'm lazarus
>they do it anyways and go "wut do u mean"
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>>148208293
also try to save at least 1 ability to interrupt revives once someone is down. Don't sit on top of the guy, just go to the next hunter and look back every couple seconds. Goliaths can really make a mess of anyone trying to revive.
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>>148208387
maybe so, but the big area shock also fucks shit up and is pretty much a guaranteed hit if I'm close to anyone.
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>>148208362
Could be worse. You could have had Val "Tranq'd him!" on top of that.
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>>148208359
considering the cooldown on lightning strike, and the fact that jetpack juice recharges, 4 dodges is way more than you need

the problem is people don't know how to manage it and waste a lot of it rushing to get inside the dome or up a cliff

jetpack management is one of the most crucial skills to learn as a hunter for that very reason, that and good positioning are the most important things to learn.
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>animated badge
>prefers monster

dodged
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>>148208209
Trapper with good crowd control. Always keep one jetpack boost on reserve. Keep on the high ground.
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>>148208495
That and NOT DOMING THE SECOND YOU SEE F.

If the monster is waiting for you near a tunnel, don't fucking dome him there.
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>>148208472
If anyone other than assault is next to you, they're doing it wrong. And assault can tank your shit long enough to put the hurt on you if his team isn't complete shitters.
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>>148208589

Doming Krakens in caves is actually a good idea though.
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>>148208420
>am knocked down griffin starts reviving me
>tell him no stop let laz do it
>he says nothing and keeps doing it
>ALL GAME
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I bought Val, and I like her, but she wasnt what I expected for a healer. Shes got some nice punch to her, but I much prefer just going all out little to no damage and just focus on keeping the team alive style, should I just stick with Caira? She seemed really good at it and I didnt lose many teammates when I was playing with her.
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>>148208710
>If anyone other than assault is next to you, they're doing it wrong.
Seriously, why the fuck does everybody in the game insist on getting in melee range with the hunter? Stay the fuck away you idiots, as far as fucking possible
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What is the point of jetpack perks since it doesn't matter because the monster smacks your ass around unable to maneuver away.
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>>148208872
See
>>148208495
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>>148208715
Not so much the elder kraken. And the kraken is still an aoe machine so....
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>The monster spends all the dome time trying to kill the trapper
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>>148208872
so you have more jetpack so you are able to manuever away and avoid getting your ass smacked around
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>>148208872
>I position myself like a retards
>I get stuntlock against a wall because of it
>Therefore jetpack is useless.
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>>148208136
Sometimes I catch a monster for a good solid 5-10 seconds as Griffin which probably shouldn't be happening. You need to cut the line immediately and pounce towards his direction. Get up in his face. Griffin has a very long cool down and you can throw him off by doing this.
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Liking the game well enough when the team is decent and we wipe the monster in like 5min but what the fuck is up with the keys? Get like 50-100 a match.

Also, do perks stack? Have 3 damage perks at R3 but it seems to only make a small difference and mostly on the armor part.
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>>148205698
I wish his damage wasn't so unreliable because he's a lot of fun. You're pretty dependent on being able to land your mortars, but it's pretty hard because of interior spaces, needing a minimum distance to shoot them, and slow travel time.
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>>148208910
Actually in legacy only trapper had the dome ability and you had to kill him in order to remove the dome.
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>>148208967
Yes, they do, the whole point of perks is that they're only supposed to make a small difference.
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>>148208910
Well if the trapper doesn't let the monster get at the healer, then kill the trapper first, then the healer.
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>>148208872
>medic getting focused, as usual
>Goliath rears up a rock throw
>be assault, shields medic with body
>pops matrix
>still get melee'd out of the way as fast as the monster runs
I wish trying to tank for teammates actually helped. As it is all I can do is pray he doesn't kill everyone faster than I can kill him.
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>It's a "Wraith evolves infront of the entire team and wipes them anyway" episode
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>>148209106
they end up making a pretty big difference on some characters though. medic with triple rocket perks has significantly more survivability than one with any other perks
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Do you think this would be viable ?

M Goliath
Max armor + t3 poisoned attack

Idea would be to capitalise on dot damage and spread them out like mad.
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>>148209080
Hmm, should've went with 2 damage and gold acid then.
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F2P level 5 here. Just played my first match against a Wraith. She completely raped us but we managed to kill her. Her damage is so fucking much and getting hugged into oblivion almost gave me PTSD.

That being said she had shit health so I don't think she's unbalanced
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>>148209035
That's the biggest thing about the dome changes I dislike. Before, there was more strategy to who you targeted as the monster.

Trying to burst down the Trapper would mean the dome would fall and you could leave the fight immediately, which is usually the safest option, but you'd have to contend with Support and Medic defenses while taking Assault damage. It was a viable strategy if you were playing to stage up before hard engaging the hunters.

But Trappers aren't really useful anymore except for some negligible CC if you're using your traversals correctly.
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so what perks do you guys get with goliath? so far i have speed/eating perks.
did i do good?
or am i n00b nigger
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>>148209221
>Her damage is so fucking much
It's actually not that much as long as you know how and what to dodge and avoid backing yourself into a wall
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>>148209221
Dodge out of her attacks and/or lead her into mines. More an annoyance than difficult.
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>>148209249
>But Trappers aren't really useful anymore except for some negligible CC if you're using your traversals correctly
Griffin says hi
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>>148208872
Jetpack management is absolutely huge in this game. You need to ALWAYS be considering how to conserve your fuel so you have some to dodge abilities. Never float, press into walls and slowly scale up them at no expense instead of thrusting unless you're in a hurry/full up, let the monster slap you with his meager auto-attacks and wait for the gap in his attacks to thrust away when he uses an ability, and don't be afraid to walk instead of thrusting everywhere; you need the fuel to dodge big attacks way more than you need it to get to your destination one second faster while traveling.

It requires some discipline because hunters are slow as fuck and you feel like you should be boosting around, but always ask yourself if you really need to use your jetpack for something and you'll quickly develop a sense for when it's appropriate to use. You'll be surprised at how often time is on your side as a hunter.
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>>148209249
idk man, it seems like trappers are really good at keeping the medic alive
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>>148209160
>wraith is still unbalanced
jesus christ just remove this monster already
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>>148209410
as a goliath you shouldn't have any difficulty with that except against a maggie or a good griffin, since your traversals and your movement abilities like leap and charge negate all slows except harpoons
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I fucking hate when I'm in queue and the monster leaves so an AI takes its place and I happen to be playing trapper so now my job is shooting tic tacs at the monster.
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>>148209249

A good abe ( didn't seen one since f2p ) is the biggest pain in the ass you can imagine.

That fucking stasis grenade is just insane. Just spray a fucking field of "fuck you monster, now you crawl" and if your teamates aren't retarded they will lead the monster into it back and forth.
He can deal huge damage ( at least for a trapper ) with his shotgun.
And as soon as the dome is finished he can dart the monster than ( a very good abe ) lobe so long range statis grenade that will totally shit on the monster. Couple that with a caira that doesn't use her sprint like a retard and the monster will never be able to flee once you've engaged him once.

But hey, it's f2p now, consider yourself lucky if the trapper don't forget to use his scan.
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>>148209221
You won because she had no idea what she was doing.
Wraith's real strength is that actually doing damage to her when she doesn't want you to is a huge pain in the ass unless you domed her in a perfect spot. That's because her decoy is a great disruptor and it's very easy to just play benny hill for five minutes if you want to.
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>>148209279
>>148209283
Her doppleganger thingie came at me fast as fuck and hit pretty hard. That being said I'm still new
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>>148209345
Good Griffins, with the actual coordination to be on the opposite side of the Medic and the Medic not run toward them, are definitely a pain in the ass. But the others much less so.
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Is it true that crow and slim are gay for each other
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>>148209178
does the dot do good damage? I haven't tried it yet

>>148209251
speed + feeding seems good
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>>148209558
Good Griffins are infinitely worse than good Abes. Stasis grenades aren't that good since they only affect walking speed. Behemoth is the only Monster that really feels it. Krakens barely give a shit, Goliath's leap and 2 movement abilities are more than enough mobility, Wraith's the same way.
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ELDER KRAKEN IS RETARDED
HOLY SHIT
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>>148209587
The decoy is what makes her so annoying to deal with- the hunters need constant coordination to not dir but decoy is an automatic "one of you guys isn't going to be helping or moving for the next 5 seconds" and that's HUGE when constant heals, support and cc are needed to survive a focus.
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>sneaking as wraith
>tricking hunters left and right, planetary scan is literally working for me
>can guess where they think I'm heading and just sneak the opposite way
>always make it to intersections when they scan
>get to stage 3 without them ever spotting me
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>>148209607

Yes, they suck each other off before every drop.
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Kala wants that Crow dick desu.
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>>148209249
Trappers aren't useless but I agree this changes suck
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What's the point of picking lazarus when a no heal team just won't be able to get through armor before the dome comes down?
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>We'll give the hunters a spammable ability to pinpoint the monster and completely remove stealth
>And we'll buff the monster so that level one monster can pretty reliably kill the hunters if they're not really practiced in the game
>I'm sure that won't fuck up the balance of the game and make things completely stupid
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Best girl
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>>148209751
Well, most of what I know comes from legacy.

But I disagree for the kraken part, statis grenade are active even when in the air and if you touch a flying kraken it will drag him to the ground quite fast, allowing your teamates to deal more reliable damage and reducing his mobiliti by a lot.

Anyway they will have a fucking hard time balancing this game for every skill level. Right now decent monster completely rekt anything in pubs. In legacy competitive the monster never stood a chance, they almost never went stage 2 and it was not really a matter of who was going to kill the other, the monster lost every time. It was the team that kill the monster the fastest who won in most cases.
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>>148210026
the scanner isn't the largest neutering of stealth, the timer is. You'll be out of time long before you're caught if you're competent at juking.

>>148210039
>one harpoon
>good
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>>148209497
Honestly if you can't balance a character after a year and a half then there's something intrinsically wrong with it.
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>>148210026
Too bad that is what the public needs to care about the game
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>Play Blue Goliath
>Get caught just before I hit my evolve
>Oh well it's okay i'll just smack them around a bit
>I'm getting the shit pushed out of me
>Crow making sure I can't move for shit
>Emet just healing the shit out of his team
>They're just juking the fuck out of me
>I can't even escape
>Just accept my loss and stand there
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>>148210113
I'll teach you how to be good, anon-kun
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>medic keeps moving on top of me as Griffin so my harpoons are useless

STAY AWAY YOU FUCKING IDIOT
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>>148210113
i know that feel anon
sometimes goliath seems so awful against decent hunters
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>>148210090
It's not very different from Griffin's harpoon though. And it's on fire.
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>>148210113
Goliath has so much health and armor that if he escapes at level 1 with at least 1 bar of health, by the time he is level 3 he might as well be invincible
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>>148210191
I do okay with monster 90% of the time it's just they seemed like a really coordinated group.
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>>148210113
Emet's heal is stationary, dunk his stations. Stasis only slow your walk, it won't gelp against leaps or charge. Don't mindlessly bull rush them, force them to come and get you where you'll have the initiative.
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>>148210226
It's got a much longer reload time and the period of it activating after being planted is horrid.
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Has anyone encountered a bug where Daisy will literally do nothing but howl even though someone is incapped 5 feet away from her?

What the fuck is wrong with this meme animal
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>>148209786
>be gorgon
>sneeki breeki
>no one knows what gorgon does
>hide on walls as I watch 4 morons run around with their heads cut off like chickens.
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>>148210292
It's a dumb animal
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>>148209697
Weaky says that the fire dot deals 30 damage/s for 3 seconds and the T3 dot is the same but only for melee attacks.

I think it would totally unhealable even if you can keep it only on 2 hunters full time. but anyway, if they stay grouped they are retarded and you wouldn't need any perk to kill them anyway.

Can you use perks in ranked ?
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