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Fuck Blackbeard edition

GIGN challenge starts today, 12th
Patch 3.4 on the 13th
>More info on Season 3 will be coming in the final weeks of July

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/R6GO

>Teamspeak for /vg/ operations
OperatorOperations.teamspeak.host
The password is: Operations

>Official news
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/index.aspx


http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-us/updates/dustline.aspx

http://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-post-launch-maps-operators-modes/

>Developer AMA Recap
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1349361-Developer-AMA-Recap

>Maps and drawing tools for all available gamemodes
http://www.r6maps.com/
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/whiteboard/landing.aspx

>Weapons and Armor damage comparisons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fr6MsLNfjDlPESlHGUQxoRiR3yChpewKQAlsOHXG5A8/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true

>Known Issues:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1332624-Known-Issues

>Basics of CQB Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ECbQGdVk

>Steam group player list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nB6S5xtZFuAlnX24VG6IVvOYnI18oOlV2W0SPM3OjaE/edit?pli=1#gid=375665432

>Console group
PS4: Add dazint8 or Omegaplaya and join the /r6g/ community that way
Xbone: Add IMadSpykeI (the 'I' are capital 'i's)

>All the Classic Rainbow 6 games running on the latest engine, compatible with current windows, all maps, all modes.

http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/11094

>WIP /r6g/ guide for crosshair overlays, tactics etc
http://hnng.moe/7Ik
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Good Edition
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Whens the ubisoft employ gonna post the leaks?
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Ash!
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why the fuck are the BRs before grorious nippon

just give me my fucking weeb ops ubi
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>>148199459
Ash?
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>>148198585
Glad someone got the joke!
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>>148199614
The whole game is just an exercise with red paintball bullets
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>>148199745
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>>148199757
i think you mean red paint balloons because fuck does blood splatter everywhere. like one bullet looks like it makes you loose a couple pints of blood.
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>Everyone always wants to reinforce everything
>Every wall steel and every door castled
>Defense now forced to cower in a corner with no sightlines
>Roaming is dangerous

>Convince a group of friends to all play defense with nitro cells, a couple with shotguns
>Blow up and shoot down every wall around objective and tear down every door barricade
>Roam freely outside objective room and can see into it from any angle
>Literally never lose a ranked game doing this

I have yet to find a single map or mode this isn't the best strategy. Tell me why I'm wrong.
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>>148199459
>>148199596
What's this strange feeling I have in my stomach and groin?
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>>148200034
Thoughts on bringing a Tachunky for extra fun?
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>>148200034
>Tell me why I'm wrong.
But you're not. Shooting people in the back is always better than shooting them in the front.
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>>148200047
Hunger for top ramen
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>>148200034
you want to make only lines of sight that are advantageous to you, if the opponent can peak you better than you them, it's a bad hole to make. like in house, in basement, I love blowing up between bombs, but naturally i like covering garage because there are 20x as many places attackers can hide or peak from compared to defenders.
fuck castle though.
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>>148200212
It's one of the few times he's actually viable. Take conference room on plane for example. Reinforce everything and everyone is forced to hide inside. Tear down the walls and Tachanka can sit in the room with the desk across from it and see through the room, and is able to cover not only the hallway on the far side but the stairs too.
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>be plat 2 solo queue
>either get matched up with sweaty premades of diamonds or golds which end up not giving shit for points
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>>148200361
>>148200212
tachanka has actually been picked in esl just to punch a bunch of murderholes
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>>148199825
kek
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Gonna drop some operator meme faces for future use
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>>148200692
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Buff Pulse's gun slightly
Buff The Tachanks
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>>148200901
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>>148200257
That sounds good, but I am trying to lose weight. Down seven pounds already!
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>>148201057
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>>148200983
UMP and 9mm чики бpики ФCБ gun need buffs, yeah.
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>>148201394
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>>148200361
Can't Glaz shoot you through the window? I've been shot by Glaz peeking office doorway as well as being too far to the back of the room within sight of the entrance platform at the top of the stairs.
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>>148201675
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>>148201675
>when you still lit af but it's Monday
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How else should I update this? Also what categories do you think the new operators will be?

Role/Position: Where the operator is or acts when things start happening.
Attackers
Point Man- If you have one, they are the first ones that lead the charge. They usually have a shield to protect themselves and their team.
Entry Fragger- Second in line. They are the main attackers of the team. If there are no point men, they are the first in the attack.
Backliner- Usually in the back of the group, these operators hang back due to the nature and importance of their gadget. However once their gadget serves their purpose, they can move up with the entry fraggers.
Flanker- Usually with fast speed, flankers are operators who do not go with the main group. They take an alternate path to sneak up on the defending team.
Defenders
Pinpoint Defender- These operators strive by holding the objective.
Roamer- Usually with high speed and/or passive gadget. They roam around the map outside the objective to catch players who are along or to flank the main attacking team.
Both- Can either play as a Pinpoint Defender or Roamer.

Gadget Role: How the operator's gadget is used.
Breacher- Gadget that is used to break walls/barricades to get into the objective or open venues of attack
Sabotager- Gadget that is used to take out other enemy gadgets
Disrupter- Gadget that is used to displace or suppress the enemy team. If they do not change or hold positions, they are open to attack.
Intel- Gadget that is used to gain information on the battlefield.
Area Denial- Gadget that is used to deny or slow down movement of enemy operators.
Trapper- Gadget that is used to kill or incapacitate the enemy.
Support- Gadget that is used to help your ally operators.

Gadget Type:
Active: These gadgets need the operator to be alive to function.
Passive: Once placed, these gadgets function even when the operator dies.
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>>148201963
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>>148201987
For next time I post this, should I just make a pastebin to not make a wall?
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>>148200983
How about you could use his RP-46 freely without the fucking tripod and just use a bipod instead, you can place it anywhere and on any surface and shown in concept art let him hipfire with it because in his current state he will always lose the peekaboo game and since it's unlikely for ubi to ever remove peeker advantage i'd rather have him mobile all the time
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>>148202317
Last one for now
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>>148202319
>tfw no tik tak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT58S1U885A
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>>148202564
>tfw IQs G8A1 still not replaced by mg42
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I thought ranked matchmaking was supposed to be better than casual
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>tfw plat 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcqToQzzGY
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Tell me about sledge, why does he wear the mask?
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>>148203770
ALL OPERATORS MATTER

THIS IS OUR LIST OF DEMANDS

>buff tachanka immediately
>buff Castle and Castlecades
>Slight Nerf to Blackbeard (even making him 1 armor with the same speed would be something)
>Nerf Valks cameras to 2 or 3.
>Buff Doc
>Minor buff to Twitch

WE WILL BE HEARD, OUR VOICES ARE CLEAR.
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>>148205573
>Blackbeard's nickname was originally Bane
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South African Special Task Force when? What a shame they already gave Buck a FAL and Thatcher a G3, but there's still plenty of interesting weapons available with South Africa's odd infatuation with unconventional arms, especially shotguns.

https://youtu.be/FYoHWFoE9Q4
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>>148206248
>>Blackbeard's nickname was originally Bane

TELL ME

WHY DOES HE WEAR THE SHIELD
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>>148206405
That was an impressive video clip. Always had a soft spot for the Neostead as well. I would not mind an additional, stock or para FAL for an operator. Marksman possible?
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what's the best handgun in the game?
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>>148206405
>12 rounds
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>>148207138
Not him, but yeah those SA lads don't fuck around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82HTy-J3vdM

Back when we chatted about which teams to expect next, SA, the aussies, and the malaysian counter-pirate frogmen came up a lot.
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>>148206405
>two independent barrels each with a six round capacity
>intended to allow one tube full of beanbag round and the other full of lethal as a backup

Operator ability of switching ammo types finally?
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>>148208014
Would be kind of neat to get either similar themed operators - amphibious warfare or the like for example. Or neighboring countries? Something to give a bit more of that Rainbow feel of disparate CTU and police, soldiers and specialists all working together to protect the world.
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>>148207695
P226
smg-11
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>>148208307
smg11 doesnt count as a handgun
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on that subject, is the revolver the worst of the pistols?
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guys how do I find fair matches against people my own skill level
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>>148208396
Revolvers don't count as pistols retard.
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http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Dragoneye%20VIII/video/19516159
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>>148207138
As much as I love my .308 raifu, I don't really think another version of the FAL or G3 is needed. The attacker can get an SS-17 LMG and Neostead Shotgun, while the defender can get the R6 PDW and the Mag-7 shotgun. Both get the Vektor SP1 for a pistol.

For gadgets I have no idea. Defender could get a deplorable motion sensor that just makes a loud ping or something, but attacker? Maybe he can ram through with an elephant, I don't know.
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>Spetsnaz don't have a Vintorez
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>>148209124
I'm dissapointed in that and the lack of overly tacticool ak 74
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>>148209124
Spetznas has no fun guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTs-38_Stechkin_silent_revolver
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>queuing for tanked for the past 10 minutes
>finally decide to quit out and re-queue
>maintenance
YOU COULDN'T HAVE JUST KICKED ME OUT OF THE QUEUE FOR IT?
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>>148211638
this game is essentially developed by a small indie studio. You can't expect complicated, high-budget things like complicated server management and control.
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>patch
BOPE soon?
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>>148212935
No they're just buffing Pulse
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>>148213520
more range on the monitor?
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>>148216754
no, monitor finally makes sense
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Blackbeard buff when?
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>>148217963
>Blackbeard buff
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>>148217963
probably soon, considering ubisoft is doing dumb shit like buffing operators who really have no business being buffed
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update up?
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Ranked solo que when?
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where's muh fucking bastille day challenge
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flash hider or compensator?
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>Everyone just picks Valk for her shotty
>throw 2 cams on either side of the objective room AKA the "it's too late already room".

Remove her fucking shotgun.
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Are they revealing anything at ESL like they did last time?
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>>148232762
doubt it, the patch doesn't hit until the 13th
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>>148209124
Another Russian CTU for year 2?
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Frosts Shotgun still has ridiculous range.

Blackbeard needs a shield nerf, atleast let us shoot shoulders straight on or tippy top of head like Blitz.

Tachanka should get an armored deployable machine gun.

Castle is fine, maybe possibly, potentially have the castle go all the way to the floor of the door.

Doc should be able to use his dart to restore a players health back to 75%, regardless of if they're downed or not.


Twitch could use at least two shock drones, or buff the one drone to withstand a couple of bullets/shock wire

Blitz needs a second/third pistol option
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>>148199086
Is the Teamspeak down? Whenever i try to connect it gives me an Error but I can connect to other servers just fine
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>>148218614
>muh pulse
You nigger. They're making his gadget more understandable. It's not like the Kapkan nerf.
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>>148237393
>Every Operator has to retard friendly

Might aswell make Valks cams only placeable in designated areas then
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>>148199460
To get ready for the Huepocalypse that is the Olympics
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>>148237393
The recent Kapkan update was a nerf to you? what?
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>>148238182
Did you forget about the nail?
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>>148238371
Am I missing something? They removed the nail making it a buff. Do you know what the terms buff or nerf are?
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>>148239029
I mean when they added the nail in the first place. I did say nerf.
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>>148239109
I thought the nail was always there? I didn't play him in beta, though.
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>>148239469
The screw and laser wire were always on Kapkan's trap.
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>>148239920
>>148239469
laser wire was, but the screw was more recent.
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>>148235892
This is actually not bad.

The Doc thing maybe could be less effective if used on someone that isn't already down, like maybe to 50% or something. As if we don't pistol eachothers feet and revive enough to make that balanced already.
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>>148239990
What? The screw has always been there? Here is an old video that they aren't using anymore but here you can see the screw. https://youtu.be/sySDAUWLDks?t=1m2s
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>>148239990
The screw was never "recent" if it was there all along, dumb whiteboi.
https://youtu.be/KrDGMtNllGM?t=3m36s
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>>148240419
Huh.
I remember one of the not-good operators getting a little harmful tweak at one point in the last few months. I could have sworn it was Kapkan, but I guess not.
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How would you guys feel if cameras and drones, when marking people, don't alert the player that they have been marked? That never made sense to me. How would they player realistically know they have been "marked"?
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>>148240724
Yeah, I'm down with that. It would remove the whole "DON'T MARK" spam everyone says while still somehow getting +5 points every few seconds if you watch their score while they're bitching.

Kinda ruins the immersion, I'll be walking thinking noone can see me then all of a sudden "You've been spotted!" And I run around in a circle like an idiot trying to see a Valk cam.
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>>148240724
Get rid of it. Same as the noise from getting spotted by Pulse.
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>>148240724
Because of this YOU HAVE BEEN SEEN bullshit, it actively discourages marking people.
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>>148240724
because the game is not a hyperreallistic swat simulator, it's an arcadey semicompetetive online shooter with little to no basis in realism.
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>>148240724
Operator Sixth Sense. Also it encourages players to communicate with each other rather than using the spotting mechanic.
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>>148240724
How could you know you were being watched? Its the only other way a defender knows a drone is present
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>>148242414
This must also be why we have no built-in call-outs like CSGO.
Ubi is brilliantly improving communication by forcing everyone to talk to one another.
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I'd like to see the cameras have a buzz or some sort of sound while they're moving, kind of like drones do. They should also always have their light on, except valk if you're in the LOS, because it makes no sense for the camera to always be there idle, but light up when someone is watching it.
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Anyone else pick kapkan, and then hide in some obscure room during drone phase in hopes of not getting operator identified?

Should operators identity be found out if you spot that operators gadget?
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>yfw one of the future operators is called Havoc
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Castle is good.
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>>148245603
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>>148249534
GOT A PRESENT FOR YOU!
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>>148244863
Yes, mostly because they won't be expecting a kapkan trap at the entrance of the building if they do not know the enemy team has a Kapkan punch in a hole in the wood and they will most likely not even check the door for a kapkan trap
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>>148244863
that's clever, gonna try that
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How I think the BR operators will be

Ill be shocked if they reversed for once and make the attacker a support and defender KILL EVERYTHING
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Bastille day challenge going on and I still have to pick rook because nobody else wants to.
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what happen to TS?
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>>148260137
Dead.
Come to the discord!
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>people still don't realize Ventrilo has always been the most simple, and least taxing on PC as far as third party voice communication goes for games that already have voice communication fully functional.
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>play ranked
>"pro" players bitch at me for having secure area enabled on my preferences cause we got into a secure game

I will never understand why these assholes like to play bomb all day.
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>>148261110
>"pro" players actually think their game preferences matter in the Ranked queue.
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>>148260675
>people will use closed-source services that collect and re-transmit voice data instead of just using simple software like Mumble
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>>148260675
>>148261493
>people don't just communicate via telegraph
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>>148260675
>Not just using Xbl parties, or in game chat.
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Okay that is that last of them by that I mean these are the last known headgear that we have seen so far.


New Headgear soon stalkers
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HE'S FAST
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>>148264007

I want these sooo bad but ugh real moneys only :( sooo sad.
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>>148238371
>>148239029
>>148239109
>>148239469
It is a screw, not nail.
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>>148265805
But a screw is just a nail with threads on it :3
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>>148240724
fuck that, this would give attackers a massive advantage. it's a tradeoff. if you want big red markers on your map of enemy locations, then i get to at least know a drone is near by. if you don't want me to know i was seen, then don't fucking mark anyone and communicate enemy positions another way.

some of you just have utterly retarded ideas and the more i read them, the more i'm glad ubi doesn't listen to you morons.
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>>148260675
>copy comment
Let me know when Vent gets out of the fucking stone age.
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>>148264007
They should just go ham on medieval helmets imo
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>>148264007
There's still some more we've seen that are still unreleased.

>Can only buy the new French headgear with Rainbow Bucks in that bundle, not individually
Thanks ubi
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>>148268147
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>>148269025
>go back to Mongolia
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>tfw Doc gets left out of everything
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>>148269367
fuck I made the same webm twice
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>>148268147
>>148269025
>>148269323
classic ubisoft netcode
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>>148269554
>called doc
>can't heal people
>can only revive
>he's still called doc
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Must have helmets for each organizations operators

>SAS
Slege Wallace
Thatcher default
Smoke NUCLEAR
Mute default
>FBI
Ash default
Thermite Mandidble
Castle default
Pulse blind
>GIGN
Black Ice for everyone
>GSG9
Blitz default
IQ Flak
Jager Fumble
Bandit Dust Line
>Spetsnaz
Default
>JTF2
Buck Black Ice
Frost Black Ice or Trapper
>Navy Seals
Default
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I believe in my teammates.
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new operators when? and new patches when?
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>>148272838
New patch tomorrow, just bug fixes and Pulse buff.
New ops August.
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>>148273074
what buffs?
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>>148272838
Read the OP, whiteboi
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>>148273239
Just more visibility on his scanner.
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New bastille gign charm today bois
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>>148275054
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>in matchmaking, casual
>get put into a lobby that's 4v5, waiting for one person for match to start
>rest of team quits
>squad of three joins
>one other joins
>on blue team
>second round starts the random sprays down 2 of the squad
I can see being salty enough to tk after a few rounds, but why before even one?
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>teamstack talks trash after barely winning against solo queue team that wasn't communicating
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>>148260395
For real?
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Piping hot new Valk meme face
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>>148275054
I did something like this as Rook once. I sat next to the Fireplace in Dining Room on Kafe. Both rooms count as a secure location so I just sat there and ran the clock out. Ended up being 1v1 overtime with me vs. Sledge, him in the Train museum. We both sat there for like 10 minutes until almost everyone on his team left then he ran out and lost the game, 2-2 Match Point.
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>>148212858
>Get headshotted by Glaz in that type of situation
>My player model was in the supine position, not prone
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>>148280570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEsSpr80e64
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>>148199459
>>148199596
I just want the face from the first one with the glorious body of the second one...
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>knifed straight through my shield as Monty by guy with 150 ping
>match point and they barely get the defuse
>netcoded hard, thanks Ubi
>"netcode isn't even that bad dude, shut up, learn to take a loss"
gg
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>>148283906
I think you should take that loss.
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>>148260395
>Come to Discord
>Guess the adress though

Also Discord is shit compared to Ts3
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>>148284318

lolwut?
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Is there a console group setup, I play on Xbox and I want to play with y'all
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>>148285208
>Console group
PS4: Add dazint8 or Omegaplaya and join the /r6g/ community that way
Xbone: Add IMadSpykeI (the 'I' are capital 'i's)
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>>148285141
>>148260395
What's the Discord adress?

Why was there no PSA?
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>mfw this guy is defending glitches in the game with
>IF THEY HAVEN'T PATCHED IT YET ITS PART OF THE GAME AND NOT A GLITCH
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b
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>>148290313
l
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>>148206405
>people complained about not some people not going slow in Siege
>this whole task force is about getting in and out quickly

Now if only peekers advantage was removed so people would move fast for the right reason.
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>Watching a "pro"league match
>Thermite with a shotgun uses an exothermic charge on an unreinforced trapdoor
>Commentators are wondering why he didn't just shoot the trapdoor with his shotgun
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>playing clubhouse
>in armory, playing the cubes with a murderhole peaking into garage ladder
>peak that angle for about 2 minutes, until attacking team has one minute left
>realize door to tunnel is open
>go to remedy that
>hop back up
>instantly headshotted by somebody staring at that hole
every fucking time.
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>>148291441
xbox?
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>>148286914
https://discord.gg/zJatr

give this a try
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>>148291941
PC, bro
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>>148292290
makes it all the more confusing, i would almost expect a shotgun on thermite on xbox but PC of all things?
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>>148292426
There was actually plenty of shotgun usage from the rounds I watched.
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>>148292685
i've seen valk, frost, pulse and smoke use shotguns in pro league but never anybody else, much less an attacker.
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>>148293006
>>148292685
should mention this is all pc pro league.
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Update tomorrow guys. You excited for the pulse changes?
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>>148293196
link to patch notes?
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>>148293375
No problem brah
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1470486
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>>148285208

What's your GT? Let's play
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>>148292426
Shotgun Thermite is surprisingly useful sometimes.

Border is a great map for a shotgun on Thermite.

I had a great match with him earlier today in Border where I shot him through a wall after Jager ran out of the objective in front of a murder hole I made after I destroyed the reinforced wall. Ran inside the room and killed Valkyrie for the win.

We steamrolled a bunch of Clantag platinums 3-0 that game.
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>>148293196
might actually play pulse now
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>When you gun down defenders running out the building 1 by 1
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>>148296132
>when you kill the attackers peaking the wrong exit one by one.
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>>148296132
>When they expected you to run outside but you still kill them
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>>148297461
>when you get the same spawn kill twice a match
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>>148297461
>when you jump out the window, get the kill and rubber band back inside
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Reminder to all the newfriends here to always damage the hostage during prep phase in case this happens.
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>overwatch adds a new character that legitimately changes up the meta by having a long range support / medic

>rb6 siege still hasn't buffed Doc to heal HP of teammates who are not DBNO
>buffing pulse for some reason and not tachanka = black_man_???.jpg
>last characters ubisoft added changed the meta by adding OP characters who are in 100% of matches and force you to play the entire game differently since they are always there
>took Frosts nitro away cause she was too OP but then gave it to Valk who has even more "must pick" utility???????

When people ask why I've stopped coming back to this game, this is the sort of stuff I've told them
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>>148299758
valk isn't must pick tho
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>>148299880
Are you fucked?
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>>148299758
>changes up the meta

kekd

You also forgot that they made D.va OP and Mercy even more OP.
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>>148299930
nah m8. her shotgun isn't as broke as frost's was and her cams are pretty easy to spot. not sure about stats on dlc characters but i see more jaeger, bandit, rook, smoke, and mute than I do valk.
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>>148300258
Hey, it ain't perfect, but having OP characters in the game with hard counters isn't as bad as having the dude immune to headshots and peeking-punishment in a game all about headshot and punishing peekers
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>its a "nigbeard peaks around a corner and is unkillable while you get headshot" episode
Can't wait for him to get nerfed.
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>>148300435
>in a game about punishing peekers
have you played this game? you always want to be the one peaking, offense or defense, servers are shitty enough you'll have as much as like half a second of you seeing the enemy before they see you.
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>>148299758
>Doc to heal HP of teammates who are not DBNO
Good. This isn't Battlefield shit.
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>>148300938
>game has a medic gun that can revive people critically wounded to the point that they are at 75% of the fighting capacity of a completely healthy person
>he shoots a magic dart into them to achieve this effect

>doc patching minor wounds is not realistic tho

Please leave and never come back
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>>148300938
doc might have a purpose consistently then. doc is never a pic before rook, and if he could heal he might be. maybe heal isn't the right power to give him, but doc deserves a buff or rook deserves a nerf.
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>>148301054
You couldn't heal wounds in-game in the older Rainbow Six games, kid.
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>stairwell railings on Canal are bulletproof
>die after getting the jump on someone because 90% of my bullets were getting absorbed
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>>148300417
>easy to spot
Here we fucking go again, the elite players of 4chan who see all.
Please explain to me how it's "pretty easy" to spot something that can be placed anywhere and it's different every round.
Mention IQ and I'll fucking nothin personel you, kid.
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>>148301172
And you couldn't shoot magic revive darts either you fucking idiot.

Even ignoring this, it makes no sense from any sort of gameplay design standpoing OR from a realism standpoint to have players say "Hey shoot me in the foot so you can then revive me"

Having Doc able to provide medical assistance to teammates would be
>realistic
>better game design
>make a useless operator decent
>legitimize garrison strategies in a game trending more towards roaming
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>>148301054
>>148301172
>>148301334

Well.....

Lockdown had a medic class

but looking back Lockdown was the TRUE alpha to Siege
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>>148301172
I'm really glad that rainbow six: siege kept to it's roots of the franchise, staying a CS:GO clone.
fuck off with the old games, siege is not like them
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>>148299758
You forgot that Overwatch's art style is shit. I'd say its AIDS but Battleborn took that title.
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>>148301305
bright blue orbs are pretty easy to spot
if you're being watched you'll see it unless the opponent is smart enough to flip cameras fast, which very few people are.
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>>148301334
I'm not even talking about muh realism. If you get wounded, you have to deal with it.
>Pump a guy full of bullets while he gets insta-healed by Doc
>Have to pump even more bullets into him
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>>148301984
>implying you'd simply allow him to be TF2's Medic or Overmeme's Mercy
>implying there is no other solution possible so we just have to leave him a shitball

This is why you could never be a game designer because this is a very obvious outcome that, guess what, also has very obvious solutions.

But your imagination is so lacking you jump to the first possible outcome, view it as bad, and would prefer to keep Doc as a bottom tier character instead of creating a solution
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>>148301984
>"I'm not even talking about muh realism."
>begins talking about how unrealistic it would be and why that makes it bad
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>>148302446
I explained how it's bullshit; didn't saying anything about realism.
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>>148303737
i'd rather have a 175 health op to fight against than that op at 100 health and a doc, i can still kill the 175 health op in one shot with a headshot vs. having to get two headshots and having to deal with two people shooting at me.
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Should I do it?
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>>148304286

You wont pussy
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>>148303737
How is it bullshit in any way shape or form? Especially compared to the guy immune from headshots in a headshot game.
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>>148304416
>tfw I bought Overwatch and this fucking game

I should kill myself.
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>>148304589
You should only kill yourself for not buying it sooner

>buying games a significant way through their life cycle

You missed the golden years boyo
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>>148304589

Welcome to the sandbox
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>>148304589
You picked a great time to start playing the game
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>>148304589

Siege > Overwatch IMO

Even though Siege has flaws it's a game that can make you feel feels you haven't felt in an FPS... tense adrenaline palm sweaty fun.

Overwatch is good but for me I don't like cartoonish art style and the game is like dirty bomb kinda or like ET classic where you have to push objectives or defend.
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>>148304861

>Dirty Bomb

Suffered the same problem as this game


shit devs
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>>148304589
>>148304861
Overwatch is alright but super gay


Its like facing blackbeard but even worse
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>>148256871
>BOPE Attacker has an RPG
>Instantly kills an entire room, including hostage
>Attackers still win
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>>148300691
And how would they change him so you stop being a little bitch?
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>>148307007
Not him, but a step in the right direction would be:

>reduce overall hitpoints of the shield so it doesn't take a full magazine to break
>make it so every gun can contribute to the breaking of the shield, as SMG and pistol rounds can not break the shield no matter how many bullets are fired
>given the shield is mounted to the rifle, it should severely fuck up aim on impact, making it impossible to return fire
these changes would take BB from invincible to headshot rape god, to "get out of headshot free" card - and would hopefully make him fair and balanced. Getting that white hit marker and knowing his aim is fucked, gives you time to react and adjust. BB absorbs a bullet, defender isn't basically instadead for trying to shoot a BB peeking the window. Game plays well.

If you wanted to go one step further, make him a 1 armor 2 speed operator (his shield deployed lowers him to 1 speed) - so if you do catch BB off guard he goes down like a bitch.

I would also like Tachanka to BTFO blackbeard by destroying the shield in 1 or 2 hits, which would make him a good counter for BB (I also would like it if Tachanka got a BB styled shield on his turret as well but that is a topic for another discussion)
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daily post about how matchmaking is a completely retarded lopsided mess
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>>148307726
>reduce overall hitpoints on shield
Might happen but in the most extreme which would be 50% won't make a difference unless if you're shit or the BB is shit.
>make it so every gun can contribute to breaking the shield
What
>making it impossible to return fire
Won't happen

Also none of what you suggested would help that little bitch complaining cause he would still be dead from the headshot.
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>>148307726
>as SMG and pistol rounds can not break the shield no matter how many bullets are fired

Sorry this was wrong as it seems they changed it.

30 rounds from Valk's MPX however...
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>>148300691
I can't fucking wait
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>>148307974
>What
Early reports had the shield as unbreakable with pistols. Even then right now, it's virtually unbreakable unless it goes up against a shotgun.

The shield should be able to absorb something like 5 shots, not 30. It literally takes a full magazine of direct hits before it cracks under stress from SMG fire.

>Won't happen
Try being able to aim a gun while anywhere between 500 to 1800 joules of kinetic energy is absorbed into the rifle. It's going to knock your aim off center JUST A WEE BIT LAD
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>>148308195
>muh realism

I like how you only bring this argument up for blackbeard even though the face shields on say Rook realistically can stop most small caliber bullets
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You guys realize even if they do nerf blackbeard a majority of what you guys always bitch about him doing won't change unless if they make him worse than Tachanka.
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>>148308383
I would be 100% okay if some operators had reduced headshot damage based on their headgear, sure.

If Tachanka flipped down his visor and needed 2 headshots to take down from full health, I don't think we'd have an issue. In fact it was one of the oldest recommended suggestions in /rsg/ as a way to maybe make him useful
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>>148299758
>When people ask why I've stopped coming back to this game
Nobody asks you anything, faggot
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>dust line came out 2 months ago
>people still haven't learnt not to peak blackbeard
>instead of adapting they just continue to bitch and scream nerf even though nerfing won't change anything at least for the people that actually bitch
>people think he'll get nerfed to begin with after only in the span of 2 months the only change to him was a slight buff
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>>148311720
>96% of the characters behave a certain way
>that certain way has been a core gameplay mechanic from day one and the fundamental aspect of the entire game
>make a guy completely invincible to that mechanic
>expect people not to bitch about it
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>>148312904
You could literally say the same thing about Valk you retard, except for being immune to direct headshots she has cameras which are for more valuable than blackbeards shit.
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>>148313037
The blackbeard hate stems from how annoying
>peek and prefire
>its BB, you are dead now
is. He dies like anyone else and if you know he's there its just a matter of forcing the moron to move (by waiting, flanking, or indirect attacks) and shooting his slow ass.
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>finally get diamond
>want to take a break from ranked
>play casual
>literally every single match i get teamkilled
>happens NINE (9) separate matches in a row
>last match try to vote kick
>one other guy tries to kick the tker
>he gets shot in the head while he's navigating the menu
>It's a premade of 3
>just leave
>search 3 more times, each time putting me back into the same casual match
the game is borderline unplayable as it is, it's just completely unplayable trash during summer. team damage should be reflected back onto yourself in casual
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>>148313037
People bitch about Valk having too many cameras.

People complained about Frost's traps being quite stealthy, the traps killing if you rappelled from a window, the shotgun being OP and her having a nitro. They removed her nitro, applied a nerf to her shotgun and fixed the rappelling bug. Now she's gone from a must pick to simply a good operator.

Do you have a problem with them fixing shit and making all 25 possible characters equally fun?
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>>148313157
>people bitch about valk having too many cameras
I have never heard that before assume you're getting this information from bronze shitters.
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>>148313037
You understand most also consider Valk to be a little too good as well, right?
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>>148311720
It's not even about peeking against Blackbeard, shitlord. He literally has no downsides and is too good for what he does.
>muh slow speed with the shield on
>whip out the Desert Eagle for normal running speed to get around the map
>take out rifle shield right before an engagement
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>watch serenity's videos and stream
>he says something
>come to r6g
>anons saying the literal opposite
>watch machay
>same thing
>watch macie
>same thing
>watch remorce
>same thing
i don't get how you can know so little about a game yet still insist you know what you're talking about
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>>148312904
>Ubisoft removes Pistol ADS with full shield protection in the Alpha because it's too OP
>Ubisoft adds character that ADS a rifle with a shield while hanging upside down out a window

It's sorta like when they buffed Buck to make his shotgun good, then a week later nerfed all the shotguns and forgot they just went to all this trouble of buffing Buck

Ubisoft confirmed for Alzheimers or anterograde amnesia
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>>148313341
>literally no downsides
I didn't know that was a merit for nerfing someone.

I guess its time to nerf
Twitch, Sledge, Jager, Rook, Valk, Smoke, and Thatcher.
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