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>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Competitive Info
http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://www.over.gg/

>The Oversheet (Damage values and other numbers)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Stats and Leaderboards (Unofficial)
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://www.overbuff.com/

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us
>Best "main" edition
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hana song
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HERO STACKING

YAY

OR

NAY?
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Soldier 76 is mediocre at best.

Pick someone else if you want to win, but if you feel like getting carried pick 76 why not
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>one of those days where you can't hit a Reinhardt 2 feet in front of you
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>>148197747
what song is hana song's favorite?
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>>148197784
Anything over 2 is cancer.
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Who else /startedthegamesoloqueingbytmadeagroupoffriendstheyqueuewith/ here
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>>148197747
Aleksandra Zaryanova
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Mercy mains, ww@?

How's it feel knowing that, even if they won't admit it, we're literally the main reason our team wins anything?
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why is Hana such a messy eater?
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Guys, tell me if my math checks out.
Winston(2) + Lucio(2) + Soldier 76 + Pharah = Victory
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How do you play D.va well?
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>better than 89% of the player base at rank 59

God damn how fucking bad are people at this game?
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>>148197815
game soundtracks and EDM.
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>>148198018

KOTH: Yes
Payload/2CP/Hybrid: -1 Winston, -1 Lucio, +1 Reinhardt, +1 Mercy
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>>148198090
Alternatively, you could swap Winston for Pharah.
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>>148198078
I'd like her even more if she listened to Super Eurobeat
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>>148197784
After playing 'meta' KOTH last night I want it fucking gone.

One of each hero per team in competitive, save this hero stacking nonsense for QP only.
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Why is there no invisible mode in this game?
>have friend who's over 20 ranks lower than me and always wants to play competitive with me whenever I'm online
>lose a rank+ every loss (which is at least 50% of the time) and gain not even half a rank per win because I'm playing with sub-40s
>he's really nice so I don't have the heart to tell him I just want to play alone
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>>148198061
Remember that when games have a lot of people, a lot of people are bad. My casual friends played their placements and got placed under 40.
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>>148198180
Shit, I meant Zarya.
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>>148198061
It's a casual shooter, man
Its like caring about being the best at Apples to Apples
it's just a game
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>>148198006
It is overtime and the last one alive runs away from the point and loses the game. What do you do next
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>>148198220
You mean double Winston double lucio double tracer
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DVA AND ZEN BUFF WHEN
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>>148198263
Ignore his messages, that's what I do sometimes. If he flips out about it later, blame the servers.
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>>148198280

True, but Zarya as a pusher tank requires more skill than Reinhardt, thus Reinhardt is probably better because there's a larger margin for error.

Either works though, and a good Zarya is goddamn near unstoppable.
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Does overwatch have a weeb character who is picked on your team you know you are probably going to lose the game?
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>>148198315
Yes, or some small variation on this

More than 1 Tracer is already cancerous enough.
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>>148198307
didn't mean to reply
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CAN'T
STOP
WON'T
STOP
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Three heroes, two of each
What's the most potent team?
Hard mode: No Zarya
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>>148198361
It has 2
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>>148198358
I said swap Winston for Zarya, not swap Reinhardt. Reinhardt + Zarya is usually great because you get free charge off people shooting his shield. Another combo that works well is Zarya + Roadhog.
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>>148198061
At least I can take solace in the fact I'm better than ~90% of the player base
That doesn't say very much
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>>148198361

Hanzo for certain defeat.
Genji for "maybe he's actually good oh no wait he's fucking trash we lost" defeat.
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>>148198361

genji and hanzo
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>>148198307
>overtime about to run out
>junkrat ahead of me is going to make it there in time
>he stops a few feet away from the point to get behind cover and ult
>DEFEAT
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>>148198513
>>148198442
oh god you have two?
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>>148198263
>Be level 63
>Brother just did placement matches, he got 43
>He plays with a consoler on PC
S E N D H E L P
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>>148198442
3.

>Genji
>Hanzo
>D.va
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>play Lucio on Hollywood
>5 minute objective time and 15k healing
>lose because my teammates were absolutely allergic to standing next to the payload once we got past the first checkpoint
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>>148198347
D. Va boost needs to hit harder than standard melee. What a joke.
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>>148198590

The thing is is that both Genji and Hanzo can be game-breaking heroes in the right hands. Hanzo, between his wallhacks, math arrows, and standard hitboxes, can absolutely wreck any chance of a coordinated push. Genji, meanwhile, will bathe in the tears of frustrated squishy class players.

But for every legitimately good player of those two, you'll find 24 shitters who THINK they're good because they saw 30 seconds of a ster or seagull stream and think they know everything.
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I want at least one of my placement matches to not feel like I'm banging my head against a fucking wall
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>>148198680
My favorite thing is when bad D.Vas try to counter Rein charges or Roadhogs hook with their boost. They usually don't do it again.
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>>148198859
> what if they're trying to stop their healer from getting smushed
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>>148198839
>first placement match
>our mei is team trolling
>second placement match
>TWO (2) widows on attack
tell me I'm the only constant, /owg/
TELL ME
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>>148198672
Dude its hard
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>>148197631

>consistently getting put against 6 man stacks when I solo queue
>get all the gold medals my character can possibly get, including one that I shouldn't, like healing on s76 or eliminations as mercy
>get put on a team with a 5 stack, coordinated, they already have a healer
>kicked halfway through second round of the match because I was afk while the map loaded and characters were chosen

THE GAME HADN'T EVEN STARTED BLIZZARD

FUCKING REALLY

LET ME HAVE SOMETHING YOU FUCKS
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>>148198581
i have done this
I was expecting the enemy team to be too dumb to ALL get on the cart.
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r8
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So /owg/, as a cruel joke to its playerbase, Blizzard has tasked you with giving a hero a buff that will turn them from a niche pick in competitive to a mandatory one.

Name it.

>Genji's Dragonblade is now an instant kill if it strikes the target in the back
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is it just me of is this game REALLY thin?

4th day in and i'm already over it
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>>148197885
You're fat and gay
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>Win offense smoothly
>Enemy team struggles to push the cart to the end
>Multiple overtimes used
>Get offense on the coin flip
>Win
>"Wow GG nice coin flip"
>"GG enjoy your coin flip win"
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is anyone putting together a hanzo/genji player name compilation, like that one with all the edgy reaper names?
>>148199103
>symmetra shields now give 50hp instead of 25
>symmetra beam range increased by 5m
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>>148198347
D.va needs to actually have good tank abilities if they're going to classify her as one. Her shield is terrible and her charge sucks other than for mobility.

Also not gigantic as fuck impossible to miss head hitbox.
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>>148198967
But I'm not going for the healer, I'm actively trying to bully D.Va
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>>148199157
Exactly this.
It's not just you senpai it feels like a fucking beta
I feel like the purchase is more like an investment in what the game will become, which is almost certainly not going to be gud given Blizzard's track record
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>>148199157
just you
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>>148199157
Ive met maybe 2 possible hackers today

Kinda annoying

One McCree landed every headshot
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>>148199095
[82]/10
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>>148199103
Bastion gets his personal reinhardt shield back
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>>148199103
Zenyatta's ult now gives every ally a harmony orb and every enemy a discord orb
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>>148199157
I think it's adequate for $40, but I'd feel ripped off at $60 I think.

I wish there were some things to do solo.
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>>148199103
D.Vas ult is reworked to call down a reinforced armor meka with 3500 armor hp. Lasts for 1 minute
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New skins when?
>tfw I have ~30 boxes saved up
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>useful in almost any situation on pretty much any map
>ridiculously fun
>requires little aim and instead thrives on prediction plus positioning
How the hell do I stop playing Reinhardt? I'm hopelessly addicted.
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>drunk
>hate fps games
>considering buying overwatch to play as Rein or Zenyatta because all I wanna do is help friends
sell me this game guys, I haven;t enjoyed a blizzard purchase since Diablo expansion
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>>148199103
mercy's ult makes her team invincible and kills everyone on the opposing team, permanently.
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>TFW the forced 50 meme can't drop you to 50% winrate so you constantly have shit games and win the ones you should lose anyway

When does it end.
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>>148199468
The content of boxes are determined when you get the box, not when you open them
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>tfw too scared to play ranked because ill get deranked
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>>148199468
>yfw box contents are predetermined when they're obtained
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>>148199390

Please tell me you had something like this in mind

>>148199468

The loot in the box is rolled the instant you get it
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>>148199103
McCree's FtH focuses in like a his ult, but for a single target, or every target hit by his flashbang.
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>>148199468
based slowbro
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>>148199103
Reinhardt's hammer now does 200 damage per swing, and can headshot
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>>148199468
The contents of your boxes are determined the moment you get them. No point in saving up, just open them anon.
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https://twitter.com/REAPERGOOGLING

holy kek
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>>148199570
Of course
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>>148199551
>play ranked
>lose game, drop a rank
>stop playing ranked
It's been like this for a week now
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>>148199103
Reaper has no damage fall off or spread
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>>148197631
"Remember, Overwatch is a game of violence, exclusion and degradation. So, when you're in a a lobby, remember to be on the team with the biggest, strongest players. That way, you can all gang up on the weaker ones, like Winston here."
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>>148199103
Hanzo arrow hitboxes are now twice as big and he can genji double jump.
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>>148199551
>tfw won't play ranked at all without a better computer and an ethernet connection

My toaster laptop and cheap wifi just keeps me lagging around in quickplay indefinitely
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>>148199489
You get to unleash rocket-assisted shoulder tackles that instakill cocky bitches by smashing them against walls, only for immediately after to turn around and start smacking said bitches' friends to death while screaming "ARE YOU AFRAID TO FIGHT ME" the entire time.

Minimal aiming involved when you're Reinhardt
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>>148199103
d.va can now use her handgun while inside the mech
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>>148199604
>AMAZON DASH BUTTON FOR SHOTGUNS
kek
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>>148199229
>fail to capture Point A in full time allotted
>enemy team also fail to capture point A in full time allotted
>Get Offense on the coin flip
>win
>"Wow GG nice coin flip"
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>>148199604
>how to reload guns
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>>148199551
If you solo queue you are going to get lose rank anyway.
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>>148199551
>play ranked solo queue
>get a good team that communicates
>win
>quit for the night because I wont have another game like that
>barely play ranked because this keeps happening
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>>148199551
>>148199647
fuck off, ranks don't mean shit right now, you can have a 75% win rate and end up with a net loss because cunts keep leaving your games

it just happened to me earlier today, and one of the wins was a fucking 5v6

stop giving a shit about your rank and just farm golden weapons
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Why doesn't anyone bleed in this game.
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>>148199604
>https://twitter.com/REAPERGOOGLING
Thats pretty funny
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>>148199551

The season literally ends next month, and then all ranks reset. I wouldn't even give a damn about your rank, just treat it as a game mode where the probability of getting a fucktarded team is ever so slightly reduced.
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>>148199852
>played 4 games in a row like this last saturday
>wondering if I should only play ranked on saturdays at 2pm to avoid getting matched with shitters
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>>148199551
>want to play rank with my friends
>they are too scared to play unless we have 4+ people because they think we'll derank
>play anyways
>win 5 out of 7 games
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>>148199924
They're all holograms
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>>148199924

Because then mothers around the world might get upset that their kid is playing such a violent game, and it would cost Blizzard about 70% of their target audience.
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I have more fun in competitive than casual

Fight me
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>>148199881
Exactly the ranks don't mean shit, they go up and down but the golden weapons are permanent
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>>148197885
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>>148199950
>treat it as a game mode where the probability of getting a fucktarded team is ever so slightly reduced.
For me it seems like it's drastically increased.
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>>148200040
in competitive you usually only get one level 28 widow/hanzo main, in casual you get a full team of them

anyone who has more fun in casual is probably one of them
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>>148200157

Mercy players need loyal friends to care for them.

>tfw no loyal healslut
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>>148197885
Even as a Mercy player, I wouldn't say that. It's a contributing factor though
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>>148197885
>How's it feel knowing that, even if they won't admit it, we're literally the main reason our team wins anything?

Whenever I play Mercy I get on average 4-6 (You)'s though
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>>148197784
Ir ir works im Fine with it
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>>148200157
>mercy player
cute af tbqh
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>>148200412
Its official

They are no longer votes at the end of the match

They are (You)'s
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>can't even talk shit in this stupid ass game without getting banned
>meanwhile you can mei icewall your teammates, pick a fourth hanzo on attack, grief with symettra teleport and repeatedly die to the enemy team on purpose

What a game
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>>148200020
>win 5 out of 7 games
>derank anyways
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Please give us a transparent view model option.
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>>148199103
Reaper gets flashbang cause he taught mccree everything he knows and he never loses
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>>148200515
i talk shit all the time
in the very last game i was in I called our Mei a degenerate shit-lipped faggotron for walling off my ult
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>>148200515

If you grief or die constantly, they chalk it up to a bad player.

If you talk shit to them, you are actively malicious and must be purged to prevent hurt feelings.
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Tracer's shoes are fucking stupid
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>>148200157
>offense hero harassing me in the back
>team aint doing shit about it
>swap to pistol to try and keep myself alive
>team gets upset for not getting heal when they die up front while I'm just trying to stay alive with genji up my ass and no help

Mercy is 1 of the more rewarding classes for me to play but this shit kills me
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Why is Junkrat so fun?
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What get, /owg/?
I have Imp, lionhardt, one of the goth zaryas, sunyatta, ifrit, architecht, young master, raindancer and junker
so none of those
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>>148199924
They do if they get shot. Widow bleeds red for some reason. Haven't seen the omnic heros bleed anything but I guess that makes sense.
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>>148200929
Because the skillful, spastic, sperging players that infest this godforsaken game are so satisfylying BTFO by junkrat's entire kit, which punishes their behavior.

And damn does it feel good to make them fuck off.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>148197885
crediting mercy for a win is like crediting the plate that your spaghetti sits upon. you're mandatory, but all you're really doing is stopping spaghetti from dropping everywhere

you're ultimately not doing anything other than existing, and whether or not you win entirely depends on your team assuming you've hit your hilariously low skill ceiling
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>>148200929
Because it rewards minimal effort babbys and feeds them goodboy points for being braindead.
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>>148200813
>Not changing to lucio and 1v1 that nigga while healing ur team
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Where have all the players gone? Why has 90% of my friends list quit the game?

Is Overwatch already becoming HOTS2.0?
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>>148200813

it's really simple too

>see mercy's health drop
>go help her out
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>>148200515
>>148200672
I didn't got banned but I got muted.

Worst part is, it's the most pussyfied way of muting someone, they basically shadow mute you and send you an email later, there's no warning at all in game that you're muted and everything works as usual.


Apparently saying easy game about once every 4 or 5 matches is too much?
If it happens again I'll just drop it, on every week a new huge issue makes itself present and the team is doing nothing to fix it.

From overnerfs to hero stacking to overpowered heroes to underpowered heroes to ranked to bugs to lack of content, etc
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>>148200929
It's artificial fun
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>>148200951
Keep them and wait for a Sombra legendary
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>>148200929

Because of the number of times I've seen "gg spamming faggot junkrat" in the post-game chat when their team suffers a loss

Plus, it's the little things, like his martyrdom grenades laughing as they're dropped.
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>>148201073
Pretty much. HotS all over again.
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>>148201096
>Be a salty-ass manchild who can't control himself
>Actual adults find you annoying
>Get muted
>Cry on 4chan about it
DINDU NUFFIN MUH LIBKEKS SJWS
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Any word on upcoming balance changes? Hanzo is starting to get on my nerves.
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>Spectate friends as they fail to take first point.
>Rando drops out and I'm placed in with 1:30 left on the clock
>Pick Zarya, slap those ingrates on my massive Russian shoulders, and carry the team to victory
Hot damn, is there anything Zarya can't do?
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>>148201017

>Mercy
>Low skill ceiling

I'll be sure to remember that when I have three teammates all mashing "I NEED HEALING - Critical" at me.
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>>148200951
Wait for Sombra since odds are there will be some other shit added as part of her release.
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>>148201014
stop that you madman
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>>148200412
>>148200494
this could be better
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>>148201073
Because it's another skinner box with a shitty competitive system and a slow ass patch cycle and little reason to keep playing after you've had your initial fun.
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>>148201208
I want this as a skin now.
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>>148183568
Reaper and Mercy. I love the idea of lovers on the opposite side of a conflict. Especially with how out of Soldier and Reaper, Reaper was the one who got fucked up by her nanomachines.
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>>148201282
sorry :c
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>>148201295
>You got 6 (You)'s!

See, it works.
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>>148201073
a number of my friends have become
1. buttbabies who quit after 2 games because they're mad, even if they're winning
2. rank 40s
3. people who play a handful of characters that they aren't good at
or a combination of these. i don't really get it either

>>148201245
>let them die
>press q because you can get it again in 20 seconds
wow that was hard
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>>148201208
Get a good looking legendary skin.
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>>148201405
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>>148201406
mei
stupid character
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>>148201378

>Relying on an ult to play a hero well

See, I like to actually try and play the game.

>>148201406

Bastion
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>>148201406
What is mercy?
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>>148201073
>hero stacking
>no content
>90% of maps suck ass
>players getting silenced and banned for small things WHILE PRO, STREAMER PLAYERS have been caught hacking and are still scot free
>mcree, dva, zenyatta in the garbage can
>mcree nerf completely fucked up the game balance
>tons of bullshit everywhere because of hitboxes and what not
>heroes that are really good and outclass others like zarya or soldier 76
>jackshit for skins
>potg still bugged
>this joke of a ranked mode
>said ranked mode shitton of bugs and issues
>they had a lot of time to fix this because A LOT of people gave feedback during beta and ranked ptr, they did nothing to fix it

It's hots/heartstone all over again, everytime blizzard makes something fun the other half must make it a pain to even get in a game.
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>>148200951
On the Range cowboy
Red Planet munky
Islander or Stitched hog
Chopper or Blackbeard swede
Nevermore edgelord
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>>148201405
I agree, then again most of the legendaries are horrible looking anyway.
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>>148201406
Genji
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>>148201406
what is mei
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>>148200929
it's the easiest class for anybody to do incredibly high damage and get tons of free kills with literally 0 effort

still not as a gay a class as hanzo though
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>get behind reinhardt to shoot bastion
>rein immediately presses E
>you get destroyed in that 1 second without shield
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>soldier hides and pads damage on tanks all game
>brags about gold damage after we tell him to start shooting pharah
>has a temper tantrum punching a corner all round
Why do I keep getting 9 year olds on my comp teams?
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>>148201406
widow, as she's the only truly effective long-range character.
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>>148201406
Torb.
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>>148201406
widowmaker

>>148201468
>See, I like to actually try and play the game.
then why are you playing mercy? 95% of the time she doesn't even shoot people, she just stares at her team's health bars and hides behind walls so she can swoop in with her broken ult

>>148201502
fuck no, if we got rid of mercy we would have a single healer, just nerf the shit out of her ult and buff everything else
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>>148199103
Zen gets a passive where if a harmony orb and discord orb are out at the same time he gets a Zen state that increases his mobility and allows him to teleport.
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>>148201406
Mei. She's nofunallowed even for the team she's on.
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>>148201554
What the fuck
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>>148201406
worthless-ass robot Dhalsim
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>>148201406
whats is tracer
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>>148201406
Hanzo and we ALL know this.

Retarded hitboxes and every arrow is basically a coin flip, will you get lucky enough that someone animation makes their hitbox bigger or not?

And if he doesn't gets lucky he's beyond useless

It's awful design
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>>148201208
not be OP as fuck
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>>148201614

>95% of the time she doesn't even shoot people, she just stares at her team's health bars

Do you think it's a coincidence she spawns with her primary weapon being a fucking healing staff and not a weapon like Lucio or Zen?

>and hides behind walls so she can swoop in with her broken ult

Shitters, yes, but I like the challenge of triage and the more I use my ult, the worse I feel because it means the worse I've done as a healer unless it comes from a source I literally could not avoid.
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>>148201406
hanzo

just so i don't have to listen to faggots argue about picking him
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>>148201406
no one actually, it's a pretty balanced game wtih a cancerous community, like most games
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>>148201406
Mei

>freeze horseshit
>stupid ass wall that fucks your team over as much as the other team since mei players are universally terrible
>fat
>sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry

Fuck Mei
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Our boy taimou is on btffing redditors

twitch/taimoutv
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>>148201727
>Oh look it's another kill cam where the hanzo shoots at where I was a whole second ago and kills me
>Oh looks it's another kill cam where the Hanzo fires a random scatter arrow at a wall and gets a kill

Even when I try playing Hanzo I find the most luck with just firing wildly into groups of enemies and scatter arrows at people's feet or walls where I suspect someone is. It's infurating.
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>>148201554
>Ampz
>playing lucio
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>>148201512
>Hero stacking
They already said it's a viable tactic and part of the game so that's never going away

>McCree/Widow nerfs fucked the game balance
More like they were so overpowering the rest of the nonsense could hide beneath them, once they got hit the true extent of the problem became clear. Blizzard can't balance for shit anyway, every other game they've made makes that pretty clear.

>Joke of a ranked mode
Yea competitive is pretty dumb and the rewards are negligible.

>No content
Blizzard was never going to be able to match Riot in terms of putting out new stuff. Blizzard has never been good about putting out new content on a frequent basis. That said, I don't know why they're taking so long with Sombra or new maps or especially new skins. People expect League/Dota levels of new releases at this point.
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>unga bunga me see pink hair lady
>pink hair lady is in red ball
>me shoot pink hair lady
>pink hair lady no die
>I die
>ooga booga nerf pink hair lady
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>>148201406
Torbjorn.
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>>148201887
Do you not see the name tag over the reaper?
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>>148201902

>Blizzard has never been good about putting out new content on a frequent basis

Pre-merger, they were gods about new content. Post-merger, Activision taught them how to ride on namebrand alone.
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>>148201887
dumb frogposter
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>>148201554
>guy on team lastpicks Hanzo on attack when we have no healer
>already know this game is a loss
>doesn't use wallhack
>tries to get scattershot hits around corners instead of shooting at the enemy's feet
>ask him politely to switch
>he doesn't
>he dies
>"Okay can you please switch now?"
>"fuck u pieces of shit team"
>he just runs straight for the enemy team
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>>148201769
mercy is objectively worse as a healer than lucio and trying to play her as one in the front lines is retarded unless their team is too dumb to kill you. lucio can speed boost the whole team in, and heal all of them at once while fighting

the only reason to play her is her ult, that's why she needs to be reworked. last time they tried to nerf her ult and literally nobody played her because outside of it her kit is garbage, forcing them to revert the change
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>>148201406
You can tell who the console shitters are by who's saying Torbjörn
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>>148201406
This guy with his stupidly overpowered ult considering most of the game modes require people to bunch up.
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>>148201406
Mei. Horribly designed. Annoying at best, self-sabotaging at worst. Played almost exclusively by retards.
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>tfw stuck between 60-64
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>>148202091
I figured that or shitter Tracer mains
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>>148201971
>react the split second her shield goes up no matter what hero you're playing
>just don't shoot her shield xD
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>>148201902
>More like they were so overpowering the rest of the nonsense could hide beneath them, once they got hit the true extent of the problem became clear. Blizzard can't balance for shit anyway, every other game they've made makes that pretty clear.
I'm reminded of when there were rumors about the HotS team and how much they hated their playtesters.
According to the rumors, due to Blizzard's policy of "keep everything as secretive as possible", Blizzard also uses a very small group of playtesters most of whom were originally playtesters for WoW and never played a dota-clone before HotS so naturally they couldn't fucking find all the broken shit that a proper player could, while claiming non-broken shit was borked.
Big daddy blizzard pushing them to listen to these testers because they represent the 'everyday player' or some shit, despite the fact that listening to casuals is the worst thing you can do because they drop your shit as quickly as they picked it up.

It would not surprise me if that was the case for Overwatch.
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>tfw forgot to take screenshot of a genji with the name "Naruto"
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>>148201902
>They already said it's a viable tactic a
Apparently you've played blizzard games before so you should know this.

What blizzard says IS NEVER SET ON STONE
NEVER TRUST WHAT DEVS SAY EVER

The most infamous case of blizz doing this was with dr boom, for half a year they said it was balanced and was perfectly fine and then one day they suddenly said he was a huge problem because the pressure from everyone was too much.


>More like they were so overpowering the rest of the nonsense could hide beneath them,
Never said the nerf wasn't needed, but they completely removed mcree ability to tank bust or basically deal good damage, there's no reason to pick him over s76 or reaper


>Yea competitive is pretty dumb and the rewards are negligible.
Not only that, the system is broken, abusable if found out how, bugged to the core and has an awful matchmaking.

ON TOP of the rewards being negligible


>Blizzard was never going to be able to match Riot in terms of putting out new stuff.
No one said they had to match riot semi big patches every 2 weeks and big patches every 2 months or so but they can easily make a patch at the end of every month.

Sombra and new skins are taking way too long and the list of problems keep piling up with no update on sight.

And with the amount of money they got they should, ideally, hire more workforce to make the content better and faster.

Like they did on their past hit wow, if they don't people are gonna get really tired of their shit.
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Are they ever going to adjust ultimate gain for any of the characters?
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>>148202324
they already did for widow
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>>148201971
>be zarya
>don't shield self
>they have pharah
>pharah spams rockets towards my team
>walk at the rockets
>instant 50 energy
It doesn't even require you to shoot at her shield. It just requires a projectile based class on the enemy team that plays the game.
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ROADHOG is the new MCCREE

Prove me wrong
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sniper healer is going to ruin the game
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>>148202432
elaborate
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>>148202354
Oh yeah, honestly forgot about her, but others seem to gain it so fucking fast, they're just so common
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>zarya's barrier negates damage done by tracer's sticky bomb
>zenyatta is affected by reinhardt's ult and junkrat's trap
overbabs? Explain?
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How do I improve my tracking and keeping my hand steady?

Just play?
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When does the weekly brawl change?
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>>148202090

>the only reason to play her is her ult
>he's never experienced the joy of damage boosting a 76 or Pharah for them to clear a room and win the game for their team

Okay buddy.
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>rank still gets fucked if opponents leave
>blizzard: oh no we fixed that on friday
>you didn't though, here's a dozen pages of people telling you it's not fixed
>blizzard: nah i'm preeeetty sure we fixed that already
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>>148202239
Don't shoot her shield is horrible advice in the wrong context. The main times to not keep shooting her shield is if you have relatively low DPS and are on your own. If you have higher DPS(Reaper, Bastion, Roadhog, Junkrat, Pharah.) you have to make a decision on gambling to feed her charge then burst her down immediately, focus her with your team to bring her down, or wait for a better opportunity to kill her.
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>>148202432
You're right tho

I don't know what's people issue with making mcree do a bit more damage.

Mcree stunning you and dealing just enough to kill a 200 health character is a sin but the huge tank with huge damage having a huge tool to one shot is A OK
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>>148202542
lower your dpi
use a good mouse
calm down
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>>148202432
The blessed hog of 20 tickrate

Mostly inescapable hooks will fly through walls and pull you to 90% certain death even though you spam the escape keys every time you get hooked
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>>148202590
>there are shills unironically thinking the system is correctly working now
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>>148202576
wow a 30% damage boost so high

more often than not you'd be doing more damage just shooting their team yourself, too bad you're stuck hiding behind a wall because you're mercy
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>>148202478
Well you see the barrier blocks damage and zenyattas ult is not a barrier and the things you are talking about it not blocking are not damage effects.
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>>148202296
>The most infamous case of blizz doing this was with dr boom, for half a year they said it was balanced and was perfectly fine and then one day they suddenly said he was a huge problem because the pressure from everyone was too much.

I dunno, I think Undertaker and Patron Warrior are more infamous examples.

>UNDERTAKER IS RUINING EVERYTHING, NERF IT
"Nah, we think Undertaker is fine because if it's in the bottom 10 cards ofyour deck he's useless."
>Casuals start quitting the game over undertaker bullshit
"We think Undertaker is a problem card and nerfed it."

>PATRON WARRIOR IS RIDICULOUS, MAKE IT LESS STRONG
"Nah, it has a negative winrate, mech warrior is actually far stronger according to our playtesters."
>Pros are maintaining 80+% winrates and pulling out ridiculous wins from nowhere with the deck
"We completely destroyed the patron warrior combo due to it being broken, ignore the fact we did it right before a major tournament."

Your point still stands though, just figured it was worth pointing out a few more egregious examples of Blizzard lying through their teeth.

Though my personal favorite on that regard is for months before the Old Gods announcement
"We have no intentions of any kind of formats, or limiting card choices of players."
Then Old Gods came with the announcement of Standard Format and limiting card chocies.
And then one of the news sites that was invited to the secret meeting revealed that Blizzard had been planning the Standard format since before LoE and the only reason they didn't announce it then was because the marketing department said not to.
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>>148202402
>d.va on enemy team
>make an agreement with one of my teammates that they will always run toward her ult
>everytime she ults said teammate and I run toward the light like moths to a flame
>put up both barriers at the last second for instant maximum charge
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>>148202605
probably because people realized they can charge their ults on hog for dank PoTGs
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Was anyone playing when this was a thing?
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>>148202606
I'm already at 7 sensitivity in game at 800 dpi. I wish there was a 6.5 sensitivity because 6 feels too low and 7 feels too high. I also worry that continued messing with my mouse settings and having to get re-adjusted wouldn't help. I just want to be more consistent with my aim.
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>>148202859

>76 literally has aimbot
>Pharah does 3600 base damage
>YOU'RE JUST SHIT IF YOU DON'T JUST SHOOT THEM YOURSELF LOL

Okay.
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>>148202126
have you forgotten what the S on his chest stands for?
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>>148203139
did you see the part where i said "more often than not"

the exception is when they're ulting you dumb cunt, i didn't think i needed to spell that out for you, but i guess i should have since you're a mercy main who thinks ulting is bad
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>>148202432
>>148202605

Shitty Mccree mains probably made the jump to Roadhog because it's the new I WIN button.

I don't think they should nerf his damage but make his hook have a longer cooldown so you have to be more sparingly with it instead of spamming it every time it's up. Maybe 8-9 seconds instead of 6.
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>>148203280

So I'm better of taking potshots with my pistol than a rocketbitch or hitscan soldier is with their weapons?

Okay, retard. And next time you lose a super close match, ask yourself if 30% damage on your side would have made a difference.
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Zenyatta is literally dhalsim
how the fuck did they get away with this, it's the exact same character
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>>148203342
They should absolutely nerf his damage. He's a tank, he's not meant to OHKO characters.
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Zen is really fun, I just wish he was more effective
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Is there anyone here on PS4 that wants to play competitive?

I've been soloing with randoms and getting shafted against premades because this game has busted ass matchmaking.

My rankings gone from 61 > 55 please save me from this fucking cancer
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Any wrist player here? Whats your mouse dpi and game sensitivity? I use 1250/6 and I strain my hands too much when trying to track
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Great matchmaking Blizzard
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>>148203369

>proceeds to show a photo of the character that looks nothing like his default skin and where he's breathing fucking fire

your argument seems sound.
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>>148203454

When Zen has his Harmony Orb on someone he passively resists 20% of all incoming damage
When Zen has his discord orb on someone he heals 20 hp/s
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>>148203481
Christ that's awful.
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>>148202543
Every seven days
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>>148203512
Zenyatta is literally dhalsim
how the fuck did they get away with this, it's the exact same character
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>>148203481
You're just lucky teenage was roadhog instead of widow. That guys a fucking monster widow.
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>>148203367
>So I'm better of taking potshots with my pistol than a rocketbitch or hitscan soldier is with their weapons?
no, i was just saying that it would be more damage than the damage boost you're praising so much. but it's not a valid choice because mercy needs to stay alive at all costs, so she just hides behind walls and damage boosts people who are actually playing the game

>Okay, retard. And next time you lose a super close match, ask yourself if 30% damage on your side would have made a difference.
it wouldn't have, the only time mercy is useful is when she gets a lot of ults. who wins the game is often decided by which mercy gets more ults
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>>148203481
>he thinks that's bad
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my irl friend IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN ME and it's pissing me off, I even played MORE than him, why is he naturally gifted at video games??? HE'S FUCKING RANK 71 WHILE IM STUCK ON 57 TRYING MY HARDEST

It was the same thing in league, I tryharded everyday for years and only peaked diamond while he was in the high end master without even trying

IM SO FUCKING MAD MIGHT KMS
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>>148197784
What's wrong with two full teams of Winston?
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>>148199103
D.va doesn't slow down while firing
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>rage at team
>take break
>is gona be different time time it just a game :^)
>RAGE AT THE FUCKING TEAM FUCK YOU
i think im just a fucking manchild
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>>148202432
If roadhog was McCree tier people would have been filing this complaint prior to McCree being nerfed.

You can deal with roadhog by counting his shots. If he's popped four, that means he won't be able to fire after hooking you, and the only danger is him pulling you into his teammates. McCree can just BLBLBLBLBLBLAM, roll, BLBLBLBLBLBLAM. If he rolls then flashbangs, which is a pretty safe and easy option, he'll definitely have ammo to hit you with during your stun. Roadhog, while he has low CD on his hook, can still face a resource choke when engaged properly. McCree can always pull off his meme combo if he's sitting on abilities, and in the mean time can take as many shots as he likes while keeping his meme combo safely tucked in his pocket, wheras Roadhog can't use his combo after taking too many potshots, and only has a four shot clip.

On top of that, compare his current FTH damage to roadhogs shotgun damage. Hog has 25 pellets per shot which do up to 9 damage for a total of 225 damage. Even Post-Nerf McCree does that with five of his six FTH bullets, and can complete a FTH animation in the same time it takes roadhog to fire, then reload his gun by rolling.

>>148202457
the logic is that he has a stun to killshot combo
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>>148203603
Zenyatta isn't even the most blatant ripoff, numbnuts. McCree and Winston are way more obvious.
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>>148203414

>They should absolutely nerf his damage

for what purpose

it's pretty clear the hook+shot+melee combo is supposed to one-shot any character that can't evade it or tank it.

namely the squishies in the attack catagorey, cause they do so much damage or move around so fucking fast. or both.

him being able to kill defensive characters at less than full health is a by-product of you not being at full health as a defender.

If you're not full health, don't go near roadhog. You can hear him coming, fight him where he's weak: at a distance.
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Does brawl have any sort of reward? Like loot box for first win, like in hearthstone.
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>>148203481
There's almost no difference in personal skill from 50-200 so it doesn't even matter. Why did you switch off bastion before taking the shot?
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>>148203804
Look at the ranks dumbass.
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>>148203734
>literally mad about me making a dumb street fighter joke
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>>148203481

Don't queue at night. There is a very little player pool at those times.
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>>148203804

You're a special kind of special.
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>>148203342
where do these printed D.Va spandex suits come from?
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