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>Aries
8x/4x/6x v174+ (Updates alongside GMS). Shit. Don't listen to shills.
http://aries.elluel.net/
Apply to Memebois by whispering herbniqqa.
>Ellinia
5x/1x/2x v162.4 Dream server. Dead.
https://maple.ellinia.net/
>BUDDY SUZURAN OR KEKCRO FOR HELP
>Lumiere
6x/3x/2x v.174. No website right now, but they've got a discord.https://discordapp.com/invite/EkPQ2qNReleases on the 20th of July. Basically Dawnveil.
>GMS/EMS/JMS/KMS
EVERYONE WHO PLAYS THE OFFICIAL SERVERS IS SPREAD OUT. POST YOUR IGN AND MAYBE YOU'LL FIND SOMEONE TO PLAY WITH.
Apply to Waifus/Casuals on Windia - Pay2Win on Reboot.
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>Theme of the thread: Post your favorite AFK spot.
Previous thread: >>147618941
>>147981081
first for krexel
2nd for kill yourself my man
>log on to aries
>die
meme server
who wants the cygnus knights from least to most annoying to train to 120 for link skill purposes for me
Yo senpaitachi I haven't played MS in years so I don't know what the deal is, so I've got a question. Can anyone suggest a couple solid classes for the reboot server?
>>147982459
Least to most?
Dawn warrior
Wind archer
blaze wiz
thunder breaker
mihile
________________
Night walker
>>147983047
literally whatever you want, they are all equally bad
>lumiere
>cant even make a website
>wants us to play there
When did Hayato get a female version?????
>>147983726
on GMS, always had one, in JMS, after the revamp.
Unexpected.
>>147984648
>2016
>the current year
>still using overalls
>still using empress equips
y tho
>>147984769
>Scrolled Root abyss set sitting in his inventory
Literally blind
Was Dawmveil a Dream server? Did it even come out or did it come out and die super quick?
>>147985157
was in closed beta for a bit, randomly disappeared. reincarnated itself in Lumiere.
So what's the objectively worst class that isn't a joke class like Jett, Mihile or permacitizen?
>>147984769
>current year
>caring about damage
shaking mah head
>>147985432
Beast Tamer
>>147984648
>2150 reward points
literally how there's no event that claims that much
Do you get anything for filling out pages in the maple content map, under the U hot key, or is it simply a trophy system of it's own kind?
• You will get NX through hunting monster, doing party quests or winning events. We'll also have buffed channels 1-16 will be buffed and 17-20 will be unbuffed.
• Party Quests will offer NX at the end and a reward, but you can only get 15 rewards a day. You can still continue to do PQ's if that's the method you prefer to farm NX.
• Party Quest rewards will also rotate every couple of days (I'm thinking every 2 days).
• There's no way around Pre-quests, but they will be made account-wide, and no Nova, Sengoku nor BT have to do pre's for certain bosses.
• Pink Bean will be used to give your account additional levels (251-255). Every 50 levels your account will gain a level.
• Bosses with Hard and Chaos mode will be buffed.
• We'll have skill changes and they will be posted sometime soon in the Discord chat.
• Forum and website will be released on the 20th along with the server.
• Link skill levels will be 120, 160 and 200.
• The bossing UI will work and you can teleport to bosses.
• There'll be 2x exp cards and drop cards, but exp or drop buffs will not be in the game.
• Certain equipment sets will be buffed.
• Pet vac will be attainable through DP Shop or through bosses. Bosses will have a low chance of dropping a shard that you'll be able to exchange for a petvac. The more shards you trade in, the longer the duration of the petvac.
• Donor slots will also be attainable through DP shop or bosses, late game bosses will have a chance to drop an item you can exchange for extra equipment slots.
>>147985432
Mihile is actually really good, you just need to have ~20 ping for the entire mechanic that makes the class worth using to work.
Discounting those 3 though, my vote goes to paladin. It's really just not a good class. It's got little utility, little combat worth, it's just all around meh. Only class that's just as bad is probably, like... Maybe battlemage? It's just totally mediocre nowadays. Maybe corsair or bucc.
>>147986515
p2w evven on pservers. This is what you get excited for?
>Zodiac - Today at 11:14 PM
>Someone pay me 100 and I will ban laze for a week
WHO HAS MONEY
>>147986076
this desu
she's an overcomplicated and clunky xenon for furries and her only use is her cat form which gives mediocre passive buffs.
Why did they make Kinesis' link skill so weak? 8% min crit amounts to 4% total damage at 100% crit rate and only gets weaker if you aren't at 100% crit rate yet. And why only 8%? who asked for this?
>>147987650
Should've been at least 15, fucking Hayato's character card at S is 6% min crit
>>147986151
I think I used a couple of the 1000 point chips before I quit playing and then never claimed them. Won't let me do it now so I don't know how to clear my count.
>>147987820
So nothing nhappens when you go into the cash shop?
>>147987650
8% is a random ass value to place it at. It really should've been 10%/15%/20% like every other normal Link Skill.
>>147987946
Correct.
>>147988042
Also correct due to me agreeing.
>STILL not Explorer Link Skill that stacks 13 times and gives3% Buff Duration and 1% Attackfor every stack
why is this allowed
>>147988583
>3% Buff Duration per stack
Muh dick.
>>147988583
>x is not affected by buff duration :^)
Fuck these runes and aran's fire mode. Although evan's link still increases rune duration it still is pretty gay to have things that are unaffected by buff duration +
>>147988786
>Hyperskills that don't even have cooldowns like Cannoneer's Buckshot or Corsair's Unwavering Rum aren't affected by Buff Duration
>Literally the only purpose of this is to spite the player
>free Job Coin next week
Fuck yes. I can finally right my wrongs. So, I must ask: Dark Knight or Hero?
>top oz runner on aries floor 47 1:03:57
>tell him his time sucks
>he gets butthurt
this server sucks
>>147990889
you might as well go hero so you can keep using your pally equips
MapleGlobal
>>147986930
Being able to farm pvacs and donor slots from bosses already makes it far less pay to win than Ellinia or Aries.
>check the new 5th job skills
>all incredibly underwhelming
>system looks even more retarded than the mastery books from when they were all over the place and incredibly expensive
That said, this looks more like Hyper Skills 2.0. I'm still kind of salty that Bucc's 170 hyper hasn't been repurposed. Being forced to waste 40 or so seconds to get back to max damage is retarded.
How does the new crit formula work? Is it just max damage now, as in everything buffs max damage, so +min/+max crit damage skills will just do +max crit damage?
>>147993683
There is no min/max anymore, it's been mixed into one, so yeah, the min/max crit skills, links, and cards all just add to crit or were repurposed entirely.
>>147993683
Is it dispellable? Also I don't mind it much, it has nice range.
>>147991628
SUX
6 days
>>147993839
Is it as simple as just everything adds max crit and that's the damage boost you get when you hit a crit? Say a skill gives you 10% min crit damage and 10% max crit damage, is it now just 10% crit damage or 20% crit damage?
>>147993938
I don't think it is, but it's fucking annoying to get the full boost back. 40% min/max critical damage is pretty sizeable chunk of damage and if you die or can't recast it in time it tends to be annoying to get the full damage boost back.
Fuck, I'd just take a 15% crit damage boost if it meant it being permanent.
>>147995032
should be like 10% crit damage, right in the middle.
>>147983551
Lumiere/Dawnveil only got potential working in April or May. Even shit servers where damage hacks worked like Novus and Acernis had potential. It's probably going to bomb spectacularly and then everyone's going to go back to Royals/Aries/Ellinia.
>>147985337
I heard the coders had a fight with the owner. Since the owner can't code and coders have a massive advantage when negotiating since MapleStory coders are fairly rare and have a very high demand, he has to bend over to them.
goodnight thrad i love youi a lot
>>147995032
The buff last like 2 minutes or something though, and you can definitely cast it twice during one power charge mode. I don't see why you fussin
>>147996764
It's probably an annoyance if you die during boss fights.
invite succlord to memebois bros
>>147996764
It's not that, it's that it takes forever to get the full effects and if you die you're pretty much fucked in the ass. Yeah, I know, don't die, but it's such an outdated skill given how everything else has been going.
>>147998529
>still playing a buccaneer even after they gave you the option to become a cannoneer
your own fault desu
>>147999423
bucc's got back SSJ mode in 5th job tho
>>148000732
Super Saiyan mode is gay as hell anyways
Is Attack+30 an inner pot I should try to keep in Reboot, or can I keep resetting for Attack Speed+1?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntjog45-StI
merry christmas
why do none of you guys play mapleroyals
maplestory's not even worth anything post-BB, what's the point of playing?
>>147984648
>ObtainBooty
hello my man
>>148002425
kao?
>>148002346
The age old question, I have boss damage 20% and I would love to have Att speed +1 but I just don't have faith that I'll get it lol
how do i get gear
>>148005683
money
>>148005683
Yeah I really hate how you don't get the appropriate gear as your progress. The maple guide thing is ridiculous with what bosses it tells you to do, like 120 for hilla
moveing up in the world
>>148007359
How do you have so much def? Def was suppose to be paladin's thing.
so in reboot, have a shade and aran going to 120
what do I use my lvl100 exp pot on, kaiser for the max hp link skill
or mecedes?
>mfw evan is so strong but plays like shit
>Can't open the box
Fake and gay
>>148008651
you have to hit it, they changed it for whatever reason
don't worry I was confused too
>>148008651
hit it stupid
>>148008651
are you baiting or do you really not know that you have to hit the box now
>>148007742
no idea, dual blades are pretty tanky though
>>148009073
>>148009074
>>148009081
I already tried with a surfboard, but I could open Queen's just fine. I even tried jump attacking.
>>148009574
the mouse over the box made it seem like you tried to open it by clicking
weird shit
guys can you give me tips on how to progress?
Its my first time playing maplestory and all the guides I've read tells me to upgrade my shit to legendary with +15% dex at least and then you are supposed to hit 10k or something
But I am nowhere near it- what gear improvements should i be making? I have 5 piece onyx set with 2 tinkerer's so far.
>>148009693
>my first time playing
>everything is legendary or unique
>black tinkerer belt and shoulder
???????
how much money did you drop holy shit
>>148002884
shit server
>>148009647
I waited a few minutes before leaving in case the box was trying to pull some gay Horntail shit, but I got angry and left before waiting out the entire timer
>>148009768
its elliniams so they just hand out enough money to do that in 2-3 days. Snowdrop coins+party quest literally gets you there in a day- I just didnt find out about it until yesterday
>>148009787
What, so cuckservient to the shitshow that is modern Maplestory that you can't bring yourself to play a blatantly better game?
>Got an ICoG from a hero box
Now all I need to do is pass another CSS.
>>148012465
>not using safety scrolls with every single scrolling attempt
what are you, poor?
>>148002884
I hate playing servers which aren't going to get any new content. If there were some way to have a server from before BB or at least with before BB style mechanics, but which also got all of the updates and future content and bosses and stuff, with lowish rates, I'd be all over that.
But there's not really a way for that to happen. You'd have to have a crazy dev team, and private servers don't make money.
>>148013579
that would require rebalancing literally everything if you want new monsters and bosses with old mechanics
won't happen as you said
>>148014064
With these sorts of things I always imagine, surely it can't be that hard. It's just changing numbers around here and there, right? It's just commenting out the Potential code. Surely it can't be that hard. Somebody has to have done it.
Then I always snap back into reality and remember that I know maybe a bit of C++ and I'm definitely underestimating how hard it'd actually be.
>classes like F/Ps, Marksmen and WHs have been on the top of damage charts for years now
>equips are still several orders of magnitude cheaper than NL claws
>NLs have been mediocre to bad since Chaos or Big bang or some shit which was roughly half a decade ago
explain this nonsense
>>148015635
people like edgy throwing star man
damage charts are a fraud
night walkers are aight i guess
>>148015972
Isn't the whole reason NLs were popular back in the day because they just shit out damage on everything with Sharp Eyes?
>>148015635
you deserve it for being top dog for years before 4th job
muh dexless
>>148016024
also mobility
but now pretty much every job is mobile
>>148015972
NWs somehow manage to be shit at mobbing in 2016 when every job can (or should) be able to hit 8 mobs minimum with their designated mob skill
about time eh
>>148016805
is that terminus impaler suppose to be good?
>>148016985
weren't they supposed to be joker equips but then nexon never did anything with them?
>>148016985
no
i think the da, katara, xenon whip and 'maybe' the kanna fan are the only good ones
>>148017393
nobody even likes you
What is the hyper stat build for Cannon master? clueless
>>148017647
erotic
>>148017507
yeah well i dont want to be liked
the gift that keeps giving
now to get another 8/8 sup pendant and im done
>>147986515
>• There'll be 2x exp cards and drop cards, but exp or drop buffs will not be in the game.
Hell yeah, time for static 200% drop.
>>148021504
lumiere in a few weeks
>>147988786
Nexon gets butthurt whenever buff duration affects something important. It's a reason Dark Knight got completely shit on.
>>148009693
>Marksman
Just reroll a good Xbow class like WH. Trust me, Marksman are absolute garbage especially on ElliniaMS. You'll probably get more damage from their buffs anyways.
>Oh boy a new server, finally
>It's shitveil again
Are they just going to keep inventing Generals so that we never fight the fucking black mage?
Are they going to come out and say Rondo, the cat fucker from the Explorer Emblem questline is actually son of Meowgorius, the Black Mage's long lost second-in-command?
for fuck's sake
>>148028309
They need an incentive for people to actually play while they>work on Maplestory 2
>>148028413
But they release Minecraftstory 2 and nobody gives a shit about it
>>148028309
Yes hopefully
>>148028309
we can fight the black mage, but they can either say
>he ran away
>he got sealed again so he'll break out in the future
>he actually gets defeated and our new big baddie is Darmoor from Grandis
they can extend the story as much as they like, do you even mmos?
>>148028413
they did work on maplestory 2, and released it. and no one played it, and half the playerbase that actually stuck around quit and came back to maple 1 when 5th job got announced.
dead fuckin thread holy shit.
mornin
>>148031169
i want to fight the black mage though, i don't give a shit about darmoor because i'm pretty sure that's just another name for the black mage since there's only one transcendent of light or whatever
honestly not sure because somehow this game convoluted the fuck out of the "the stereotypical supervillain must be stopped at all costs" schtick
>>148037445
there's one transcendent set per world, 3 for maple world and 3 for grandis (and apparently 3 for tynerum now since it has it's own goddess too even though it's in maple world)
just think of the possibilities! so many final bosses to be had
>>148038608
Tynerum isn't in Maple World though
I don't remember the plot leading up to gollux because i didn''t read most of it but in san commerci it's a big deal that you're basically a mercenary
>>148038764
commerci isn't canon, the only tynerum thing that is canon is up to the demon refugee camp and the hilla thing
>>148038951
does kms even have gollux
>>148037445
The thing is, every "world" has it's own transcendents. Grandis, which features foxpoint village and heliseum and pantheon, has darmoor, the transcendent of light for grandis, who took shit over similarly to the black mage did to maple world. Except darmoor succeeded. He absorbed (supposedly) both transcendents in grandis and became all powerful, and that's why we never see him, he just
>>148038951
I always assumed Tynerum was just a GMS thing, which is why literally everything about it except gollux (but not the monsters inside) was just repurposed from somewhere else
it's so odd how gms loves to repurpose shit but won'tbring back the ultimate agent event
>>148041576I want chumji's fucking watermelon GOD DAMMIT THAT'S MY FAVORITE ETC ITEM IT'S SO BIG
>>148041576
gollux is a repurposed hekaton, was basically a test version for another large-scale monster. Instead we got urus, and everyone knows how that turned out.
Remember when everyone was arguing about how urus would be a huge thing and everyone was gonna play it?
>>148041576
Ultimate Agent was the shit but that event is so fucking old. That event was a godsend to newbies. I probably still have an earpiece on one of my characters somewhere.
>>148041750
How is Gollux like Hekaton in any way other than "obnoxiously huge shit corrupted by the black mage or who the fuck ever"?
I don't get the point of GMS kritias, It took me a while to even realize it was out because they overshadowed it with gollux, commerci, beast tamer and an event shop or two in rapid fire sequence, and also removed the rewards that made it worth visiting and the only boss that could've made an interesting fight
>>148042167
They're the same right down to the fucking face. The only differences are gollux is the fight split into multiple maps, and a different design. The functionality is the same. Break the limbs, weaken the core/jewel. It's two monsters that do the same idea in different ways.
>>148042421
Isn't Hekaton a cross-server boss that requires shit like ballistae and jumping over shit? And the rewards are vastly different and not even acquired the same way
can i get an invite link to the discord
>>148042720
like I said, the core philosophies behind the boss is the same. Damage non-core/jewel parts to weaken the core/jewel, by breaking limbs. hekaton isn't cross server.
>rewards are different
no fucking shit sherlock, i'm talking about the fights. The monsters themselves are extremely similar.
>>148042741
https://discord.gg/WAtss
>>148002884
>>148010792
>>148014064
I play Royals but nustalgafigs like you are the reason I stay lowkey. Stop shoving your shit opinions down everyone's throat and get some facts to back up your claims.
>>148042862
no shit yourself, rude boy
gosh darn it are you rude
gosh
anyway
https://orangemushroom.net/2013/07/26/kmst-ver-1-2-485-2-giant-boss-hekaton/#more-8007
>Hekaton is a giant boss which can have up to 100 Maplers fighting against him, from any world!
>To help you fight Hekaton, there will be mounted weapons on the surrounding towers. There are three types that you can access by pressing the ‘sit’ button while nearby.
You're right in that they have multiple parts, but that's hardly novel. The first major boss of Maplestory was Zakum, after all. Similarities end there, though. They are more different than alike
>>148041868
I have the ultra suit and headpiece on my mage but I sold the earring because it was godly and i needed the dosh
i must've dropped the gloves, cape and boots. That or they expired or something because I can't find them
>>148043607
>tfw gms got cucked out of a pocket item with %boss
o well
>>148044362
as far as I know, it's an upgradeable pocket item that needs to be constantly fed stuff from kritias to level up, and if you don't do it for a long time it reverts back to level 1 or something
no thanks
>>148044806
>>148044362
Yeah you have to get 13k anti magic a DAY to keep it from deleveling. 5% boss is not worth that. There are much better pocket items on GMS from other events like sengoku high anyway. or that hunter shit.
dead bread
where should i train at 208? Should i stick to golems in perion or go to haven?
the reason i bother to ask is because my hyper ignore is almost level 9 and i am severely autistic about maxing it
>>148026039
I miss everyone.
Pic taken the moment the life left his body OD baka...
R I P Harambe <3
>>148048484
i wonde rif that guy ever found someone in nath
thred ded
everyone name one maple
>>148050273
Canada has a good source of maple
>>148051593
According to Friends, Vermont has really good maple candy too.
Is there a more unused and forgotten mechanic than elemental weakness?
>>148052615
I was reminded every time I went to do PB as a bishop and my angel ray only hit 50k per line, so I had to use magic bolt from 1st job
thank fuck avenging angel now reduces holy element on angel ray by a bunch
>>148052615
elemental effects themselves desu
they added Dark to BaMs recently, before that the only classes to use them were NLs (after their revamp) and Evan's Dark Fog. They could feasibly add them to DKs but what would be the point?
Thunder Breakers now no longer have any affinity to Thunder and I strongly feel like they forgot to make Dawn Warriors Holy elemental and then just stopped caring
But you're right, they even made Insight the hardest trait to level. I don't even know how people increase itif you don't get it from revealing potential anymore
>>148053026
you get insight from accessory crafting i think
>>148055563
>you get insight from the wosr and most useless profression
How's the new class in KMS?
>>148056330
what new class
>>148059172
Fisto
> have max ambition and cannoneer card
> still lost 14% exp because I walked into a map with an elite boss, lagged severely and died
> continued lagging while trying to use mpe pots
> wasted 2 apples instead
Should I even bother with this 2x? Seems like a wash already
>>148061409
>he thinks traits actually do anything
You goofball.
what the fuck is the point then
if you want me to buy safety charms then make ambition giveme a discount on them or some shit so i know i have to bother with them
i was even planning to buy nx for a 2x card but i'm too upset to even bother training now
Does anything determine where legendary ores spawn?
>>148061690
charm?
>blaze wizard botters wearing cra gear
Damn really
>>148063430
got to look cool while botting
why does nexon put these long ass fucking intro videos into the patch when we're loading the game
we're going to see the new content when we log in, who is this even for? you're advertising to people already consuming your content
why is the fm in aries so ded
>>148063793
I remember when Busta was first releasedDRESS ME UP
>>148063584
Makes it more annoying to steal elite bosses from them on shit I'm just leveling up
>>148004176 (kao)
> best place to train at my level is 60 frames per hour
Why can't I quit this shit game?
>>148061816
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If you're new, I can link you to the FAQ so you don't get confused.http://www.4chan.org/faq#what4chan
If you're not familiar with this image/text board layout, don't fret. It can get pretty confusing for newbies.
I hope that settles everything! Welcome to 4chan!
>>148064486
her tiny bust bounce tho <3
>>148065685
God damn, shits so fucking delicious
Why did they remove star planet yet they dindn't remove monster life?
>>148012465
>+0 atk icog on the last slot of my 15atk mask
Just fuck my shit up fan
>>148066909
>he doesn't use return scrolls
lol
>>148066909
>15 attack
might as well inno that crap
>>148066909
>log on
>2 ICoGs in my inventory for some reason
>Booty doesnt have the right NX currency to gift me PSoK so I can give him these tyrant gloves
>ICoG his faf legs once
>+4 attack
I'll take it
>Try one on the gloves
>failed
Scammed
should I play on reboot or the normal gms servers
I hate trying to kill horntail with my marksman. Getting bounced around everywhere. Such a vertically challenged class
>>148072709
>playing mm without stance link
do you hate yourself
>>148072949
Possibly. It doesn't last that long anyways
>>148043193
>facts
What the fuck does that mean?
>get some facts to back up your subjective claim that the game used to be better
>>148069362
You need a psok for Booty's gloves right? When he's on, I'll gift it to you so he can get it
>>148074650
>doesn't know what facts are
>get some facts to back up your subjective claim that the game used to be better
Well where is your evidence that the game was better in those earlier versions? Oh, right,you have none.
Yo can I get an invite to Pay2Win? Name is Oritat on Reboot
>>148075913
It had a larger playerbase
People actually cared about the game, talked about it. It was in the public mind. Everyone remembers playing MS when they were younger.
Everyone says it was better
It wasn't completely p2w, just heavily incentivized cash purchases (modern MS is about 10x worse than most other modern korean MMOs)
You're still asking me for facts which prove a subjective claim, which, yes, is impossible.
I'm really tempted to return and make a Phantom. I feel like I should wait until the 5th job stuff though.
How's Phantom right now/post-cap removal? Also how's Buccaneer?
>>148075325
Bruh you need PSoKs for your capes don't worry about it.
>>148077043
Phantom is the hardest class in the game to fund, and it shows. His damage is insane once he's fully funded. 5th job makes him ridiculous.
Bucc is shit, tho 5th job gives em Super Saiyan back which is cool.
>>148079448
>Fund
What if I play him on Reboot? I'll probably go that route because pay wall.
>>148079973
well it doesn't change how he still needs funding, this time in reboot you have to grind mesos
>>148080049
What about that spirit guy? Eon something. Is he fun? What about Corsair? I just want to have fun.
>>148076975
>It had a larger playerbase
So did WoW. People eventually quit MMOs and today's kids wanna play the new CoD or SICK MINECRAFT UPDATE instead of Maplestory.
>People actually cared about the game, talked about it.
They still do.
>It was in the public mind.
The public mind of edgy weeb teens.
>Everyone says it was better
[citation needed] [opinion]
>It wasn't completely p2w
>cubes could only be bought with nx
>now cubes are obtainable through drops and crafting
It's less p2w than it was back then, holy shit.
>modern MS is about 10x worse than most other modern korean MMOs
[citation needed] [opinion]
>You're still asking me for facts which prove a subjective claim, which, yes, is impossible.
So you admit you have no valid argument yet continue to argue. Excellent.
>>148080115
oh if for fun, then pick whatever
Farming/Leveling : The Luminous. Kanna
Damage : Aran Angelic Buster Dawn Warrior
Bossing : Wild Hunter F/P mage
only 8 more to go
>>148080291
>So did WoW.
Yes, and WoW was better back then.
>They still do.
No, they don't.
>The public mind of edgy weeb teens.
Which is the exact same playerbase it has now, only now it's smaller.
>[citation needed] [opinion]
YOU ARE ASKING ME FOR FACTS TO SUPPORT AN OPINION OF COURSE THERE WILL BE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE
>cubes could only be bought with nx
>now cubes are obtainable through drops and crafting
>It's less p2w than it was back then, holy shit.
Did you even play pre-BB? Cubes didn't even exist, you gigantic fucking retard.
>[citation needed] [opinion]
Again, see above.
In terms of p2w? MS is flatly more p2w. I've played dozens of krMMOs. None of them were as bad as MS in that regard.
>So you admit you have no valid argument yet continue to argue. Excellent.
No, I have a valid argument. It's just a subjective argument based on subjective things. You asking for objective facts is literally impossible, and my inability to do so proves nothing. My argument isn't that kind of argument. All quality-based arguments must stand based on some sort of subjective criteria.
>>148080457
Ya but progression is fun. I don't need to be super meta man with my capped Wild Hunter just like everyone else,I just don't want to suffer too much with a Beast Tamer or something.
>>148080690
Why not a titanium heart shaggy
>>148080932
dome gave me this one its ok i mean its just 20 damage and a couple stats not big deal main issue is the pot
>>148080850
>Yes, and WoW was better back then.
>>>/krog/
>No, they don't.
You're posting in Maplestory General, aren't you?
>Which is the exact same playerbase it has now, only now it's smaller.
Like I said, people eventually quit MMOs.
>YOU ARE ASKING ME FOR FACTS TO SUPPORT AN OPINION OF COURSE THERE WILL BE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE
So why did you give your opinion instead of facts in the first place?
>Did you even play pre-BB? Cubes didn't even exist, you gigantic fucking retard.
Cubes came out with DB, which was released before Big Bang.
https://maplewiki.net/index.php?title=Potential
>In terms of p2w? MS is flatly more p2w. I've played dozens of krMMOs. None of them were as bad as MS in that regard.
Again, opinion. MS is now less p2w than it was pre-bb.
>No, I have a valid argument.
Then where is it?
>>148080865
cannoneer
almost every class has their own annoying gimmick
>>148081489
*try
>>148080690
>not an outlaw heart
why even bother
>>148081940
u think im made of money
>>148081489
I like gimmicks. What do you like about Cannoneer? I don't like monkeys, they're ugly. I could look past it I guess.
>>148077204
is ok, you need it more than I do
>>148082279
cannoneers are the only ones without a gimmick
but if you like gimmicks I can't help you
The only gimmick I like is I/L mage, it's simple and I like to slow down enemies
>>148082568
I mean without gimmicks all classes are pretty much just the same thing.
>>148082516
I'd feel pretty bad letting you use your shekels like that man.
>>148082568
AB loses their gimmick once they max out their shit for 4th job
>>148082708
No tears now, only DREAMS
>>148082279
I stopped noticing the monkey after like 2 days of playing. It doesn't do anything and none of your end-game skills use them except for like, 2, and one of them is a turret.
>>148081278
>You're posting in Maplestory General, aren't you?
That has nothing to do with anything.
>Like I said, people eventually quit MMOs.
Yes, but people also join MMOs, typically.
>So why did you give your opinion instead of facts in the first place?
What?
>Cubes came out with DB, which was released before Big Bang.
God, the game's been fucked up even longer than I thought.
>MS is now less p2w than it was pre-bb.
opinion :^) :^) :^)
>Then where is it?
If you're too dumb to see it, I'll restate.
Maplestory used to be better.
There's such things as account buddies now? What a scary thing to accept
No, Maple was not better
If it was, Royals would be the most popular server with 10k great concurrent players
Maple's community was better, which has nothing to do with the quality of the game itself
Maple is still shit today, and crap updates like fifth job only dig it deeper, but pre big bang was a garbage resource hogging chat room
>>148083736
>If it was, Royals would be the most popular server with 10k great concurrent players
Not necessarily. There could be people who are too invested in other servers to move, or people who don't know about Royals, or people who are loyal to the official servers, or people who would like the old MS feel but who want to be getting new content, not be stuck on a stagnating private server.
These are all possible effects which could be preventing Royals from being ridiculously popular. Especially the "official server" effect - Nostalrius is the only private server I know of which could even compare to the official server, and it was still a dwarf.
>>148082970
But there are no dreams this is maplestory.
>>148083401
>That has nothing to do with anything.
>said nobody discusses maple nowadays despite posting in /msg/
>Yes, but people also join MMOs, typically.
And, like I said, today's kids wanna play the new CoD or SICK MINECRAFT UPDATE instead of Maplestory.
>What?
You can't be this delusional.
>God, the game's been fucked up even longer than I thought.
Nice damage control.
>opinion :^) :^) :^)
I literally said cubes are now obtainable via gameplay, can you fucking rea-
>meme face
Oh, you're autistic AND stubborn. Okay.
>If you're too dumb to see it, I'll restate.
No, you literally have no valid argument, yet you're still arguing. If you honestly think this is a proper argument, I'm going to have to ask you to politely leave because this website is intended for people of or above the age of 18.
>Maplestory used to be better.
[citation needed]
...is your royals ign "TimeToBrawl"? Cause if it is, hoo boy.
>>148083736
This.Thx u my man.
>>148083978
No it's because pre-bb is shit and we're not afraid to express that.
t. Royals player
>>148083214
Are they fun though? Re-reading their abilities they seem decently fun if not only for the oomph skills seem to have. Phantom has the fun mobility though. Also still curious about the spirit guy.
RIProlled 27% int a few rolls later and rerolled my solid gollux ring for drop%, so all is well.
>>148084301
Cannon Master's mobility shits on Phantom.
Phantom is for queers anyways, don't play that shit.
>>148084301
Shade has bossing and bossing accessories. It's got maybe one attack you'll ever use and even less buffs. No real gimmick until level 200, where you play hide the liver with your dumb fox spirit wife.
>>148084724
So pretty boring then, thanks.
>>148084489
Does it? Which are the skills Phantom pretty much has to steal again? I think that will be the deciding factor.
>>148084192
Obviously people in enthusiast groups will discuss the game they're enthusiastic about. You do not count for the public mind.
>And, like I said, today's kids wanna play the new CoD or SICK MINECRAFT UPDATE instead of Maplestory.
[citation needed] [opinion]
>Nice damage control
I admit that I was wrong. We need to go even further back than BB, to pre-Potential.
>I literally said cubes are now obtainable via gameplay, can you fucking rea-
You're right. I'm revising my stance to pre-cube in light of evidence you've presented.
>No, you literally have no valid argument, yet you're still arguing.
"In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false. It is not required that a valid argument have premises that are actually true, but to have premises that, if they were true, would guarantee the truth of the argument's conclusion."
If Maplestory had a larger playerbase back then, if people used to talk about it more before, if it were less p2w before, and if the game were better balanced before, I posit that before Maplestory was a better game.
>[citation needed]
You cannot cite a source for an opinion.
>is your royals ign "TimeToBrawl"? Cause if it is, hoo boy.
I don't play Royals.
>No it's because pre-bb is shit and we're not afraid to express that.
Provide evidence that the reason for why Royals is unpopular is that pre-bb is shit and not any of my other given reasons.
>>148082240
50b shag np
>>148082240
i'll give you one for a pic of your boyhole
Are xbows purely expensive because of WHs? And why are they big damage? Their hurricane hits faster or something?
>>148084848
>[citation needed] [opinion]
Nice parroting. Running out of responses I see.
>"In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false. It is not required that a valid argument have premises that are actually true, but to have premises that, if they were true, would guarantee the truth of the argument's conclusion."
Who are you quoting?
>If Maplestory had a larger playerbase back then, if people used to talk about it more before, if it were less p2w before, and if the game were better balanced before, I posit that before Maplestory was a better game.
But the game was more p2w and unbalanced before.
>You cannot cite a source for an opinion.
Then why did you give one, again?
>I don't play Royals.
Then why are you even posting?
>Provide evidence that the reason for why Royals is unpopular is that pre-bb is shit and not any of my other given reasons.
I said pre-bb is shit, not Royals.
You have no valid arguments. At all. How can you expect a discussion if you only fling shit and flame? Like honestly, how high are you on the spectrum?
Unless you have any real evidence or hard facts that Maplestory was better pre-bb, don't post. Fucking nostalgiafags, I swear.
>>148085864
They have their jaguar doing damage while they shoot shit too.
If I make a character now will I regret it when 5th job hits? Is there a burning thing going on right now?
>>148086059
5th job in GMS is still half a year away.
>>148085864
Strong buffs earlygame, a fucking shitload of lines for damage capping. They're a bit more rounded out now with the nerfs, though.
>>148085864
Their hurricane effectively does like 3 lines per shot, plus you can cast Jaguar skills while off your Jaguar in bossing mode
http://forum.ragezone.com/f206/maplestory-v170-recruiting-developers-lumiere-1107920/
Why does anyone think this server can take off?
>we have opcodes
>>148085916
>Who are you quoting?
The result on google when I search "valid argument"
>But the game was more p2w and unbalanced before.
The premises do not need to be true in order for my argument to be valid. Read the definition.
>Then why did you give one, again?
When did I cite a source?
>Then why are you even posting?
Because old MS was better than current MS how is this a difficult concept
>I said pre-bb is shit, not Royals.
You said that Royals was unpopular because, and I quote, "No it's because pre-bb is shit and we're not afraid to express that."
>You have no valid arguments.
I do, as I've already demonstrated.
>Like honestly, how high are you on the spectrum?
Ad hominem.
>Unless you have any real evidence or hard facts that Maplestory was better pre-bb, don't post.
You cannot provide a hard fact to prove an opinion.
>Fucking nostalgiafags, I swear.
Ad hominem.
I'm seriously curious if you're trying to troll me. If you are, you need to work on your technique. It's not trolling if it takes you just as long to post your bait as it does for me to reply to it every time. You're just wasting your own time, which means you're trolling yourself.
>>148086059
yes there is burning event right now, go ahead and make one
5th job is probably December/jan
>>148086269
- We are using Acernis as our base source, and we've updated a fair amount of opcodes
i played that server for the one day that it was out, it was fucking horrid.
>>148086118
That's the problem. I feel the itch from the announcement but I can't wait that long.
>>148086382
Are there any other events going on that would make starting now a good idea? Just something to get totems or whatever.
>>148086381
On second thought, keep posting. I'm starting to enjoy this.
>>148086510
There you go, champ, you're doing it!
>>148086595
Yup! :-)
>>148086269
>server that cant even put up a website with registration even going online ever
top kaka please remove it from next op
>>148086642
GJ!
>>148086754
That's not how you spell GG me boi
>>148086968
haha :^)
>>148086968
kkk
aries pls add succlord to guild
Is there literally any reason to play Aries?
The server opened on March, which means it's old as Ellinia
The server's dead, check the FM
The server has no content
>>148088140
we waitin' u
>>148088140
Nothing else to do. Waiting for Lumiere to come out which may be good, but if it isn't then just quit playing for a bit. Thats my plan.
who are you quoting
(you)
Loving life
>>148090303
i mean funfair is better than sweatwater
>>148092241
Yeah I just meant the one drop I get is worthless
