Dead game edition
>What is Dead by Daylight?
Asymmetrical Online multiplayer. 4 survivors scramble to fix 5 generators, while 1 killer wants to sacrifice all of them
>Sounds like evolve
It's not. Survivors have to avoid the killer at all costs, whereas the killer has to hunt for them. Everyone has their own objective.
>General info
Pastebin with most questions asked: http://pastebin.com/DDddy4uE (embed) (embed)
Pastebin with peek at what's in the full release in terms of levels: http://pastebin.com/FE58REXD (embed) (embed)
Pastebin with all of the values (perks/items/whatnot): http://pastebin.com/vCh6gxR6 (embed) (embed)
Saved game with everything unlocked or whatever: http://www.mediafire.com/download/3qmzt3ok3p47xqw/TakeTHATsociety.profje
>Official site
http://www.deadbydaylight.com/
>Latest Patch Notes (June 29 / v1.0.2)
http://steamcommunity.com/games/381210/announcements/detail/951765661114719944
>Latest Hot Fix Notes (June 30 / v1.0.2d)
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/358415738213931163/
>Report hackers
http://steamcommunity.com/app/381210/discussions/0/358415206087328621/
>>147958623
This general probably isn't worth saving
>>147959316
Whoa, did it really die that quickly? I was just here three days ago.
I'm tired of this fucking bullshit it's every match
>Get hooked
>Killer sees someone trying to open the gate so he goes after him
>I get pulled off the hook
>Run to the other side of the map
Lets the othert survivors go
>Killer makes a beeline for me over THE ENTIRE MAP KNOWING EXACTLY WHERE I AM
Why even add a party mode? They already play together.
>>147959435
Probably had blood hound and was following your bloody trail.
I am blind as mice on the cornfield maps as the Killer.
>>147959358
Yeah. The inept dev team refusing to fix infinite juke points makes everyone HAVE to play trapper, and since everyone is running sabotuer now, no one wants to play killer, and with out killers you can't play this game period.
Game had promise, but the Devs are too retarded to care for it properly so its dying.
In case this is the final /dbdg/ thread i want to say it was fun while it lasted.
>>147959847
I don't understand how people can design a game like this and yet be so incompetent. I can't even program and I could balance this shit in a day.
why the fuck can't I vault while running reeeeeeeeeee I just bought this and it's fucking stupid reeeeeeeeeeee I hold shift and press space and nothing happenes reeeeeeeeeee killer fucking got me reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>147960362
I doubt it'll be the last, but if the devs don't fix the glaring problem in the next 3 weeks or so it will be an officially dead game.
Why pay to play this when you can play evolve for free?
Yes, they're not the same but they're close enough to not fucking matter.
>No one fixes generators
>You escape because you were the only one who did
Wow... its like... its a core game mechanic or something...
I think the worst thing about infinite juke spots is they rack up a shit ton of points if you chase them. It doesn't even matter if you eventually fake them out and get them. They got enough for a pip.
>>147963109
And? You get just as many points for chasing them assuming you don't get pallet stunned
>typical 4chan melodrama
Never change, /vg/. Never change.
>>147963290
The idea of the being rewarded for doing something so simple just rubs me the wrong way.
Especially when its the last guy and you can either chase them for a good 5-10 minutes and wait for them to fuck up or just let them go.
>>147963109
I've never paid much attention, but don't you get points for chasing them? Sounds like a win-win to me.
>>147964009
Yes, but I play to win and have fun. Him winning as well because of poor map design and retarded point system is not fun.
>>147964212
>I'm only having fun if the other guy isn't
What a fag.
>>147964212
lol stupid tryhard faggot git gud scrub
>>147964681
Is running to a juke spot to teabag and slowly self heal really that fun for you?
>>147964694
Rank 1 faggot
>>147964962
>he gets THIS mad at being teabagged
>high level jake
>chasing him
>he goes to infini-juke spot and infini-jukes
>trap it and manage to put an end to his nonsense
>down him
>put him on the hook
>trap him
>stand a few feet away to make sure his scumbag ass dies
>2 people come in and dog pile the hook to save him
>they get him out but pay for it
but why though? they couldnt just go do generators?
>>147964212
>Winning is getting a pip
>I got a pip too but he "won" whaaa
Shut up
It was nice knowing you /dbdg/
Please, don't forget about your daily rituals.
You did remember to do your daily rituals, right /dbdg/?
Should I refund this on Steam?
>>147965569
Probably. They may fix its issues, but likely not.
>>147965661
lol shutup stupid crybabby faggot
>>147965279
Not as mad as the guys I catch doing it and force them to dc.
>>147965295
I bet you decorate your cuckshed with all those participation trophies you got in elementary school.
>>147966000
>Being this fanny flustered
>>147965727
>Dev team won't fix shit and its a known fact
>Cry babby XD!!!!!
Don't be this much of a shill cuck.
>Hear trapper take a swing
>Its a miss
>second later splat
Fucking lagfaggers
So to make the survivor I want have the best perks I need to level them last and level the ones I don't care about first?
Requesting that picture of the trapper and dwight with the toolbox, the "woah he's fast" one.
>>147967503
yes
>>147967964
Feels like the game will be dead by then
Dear Sabofags
Wait until 2 gens are done before you decide to be a faggot.
You and your team can't escape unless there's atleast 2 done and it helps push the killer away from areas of the map because its unlikely he'll patrol fully fixed gens.
Your bold points can fucking wait
>>147968154
Dear Meg
You see that generator I left running next to the hook I sabotaged? You know, the one at 99%
Be real cool if you didn't activate it, or the other fucking 2 I left at 99%.
>>147959847
this post is so correct it hurts. I had a blast playing killer but it's just unplayable now.
>>147968745
Devs are probably gonna kike it up with DLC, they probably haven't abandoned it, don't know why you're giving up so soon.
>>147969283
DLC won't fix window cheesing & rank 3 sab + small game.
>>147969341
They'll probably update it is what I mean, and you can't easily fix it anyways. Survivors need a chance
>>147969469
They have a chance, i miss the beta where juking meant outsmarting the killer not running to the closest window
>>147969469
The jukeshack was a piece of shit in the beta
They fixed it by redesigning it.
all they have to do is redesign those buildings to not be a piece of shit.
>>147969469
Remove sab 3 & small game. Period. Wow that was hard.
Window cheesing is more difficult but my suggestion is to at least relocate them so that they aren't right in the middle of the fucking map, within 5 seconds of sprint distance from any given generator.
Good survivors will just instantly make a break for the juke spot, which is always reachable as it is now. Sure you might get a hit on, but that's what self care is for ;^)
>>147969727
Window vaults are harder than in beta though
and you still get your ass juked you just don't know about it dumb fuck
>>147969469
Survival should have a stronger emphasis on wit, such as scooby doo jukes to escape or on stealth and never being seen rather than it doesn't matter if you're seen or not because you can just sprint burst to the nearest infijuke point and press space to victory.
>>147969792
>>147969849
Quit being salty bitches because you didn't kill all 4
Protip: If the survivor is silly enough to knock over a pallet, you can place a bear trap *much* closer to it than to other obstacles. Survivors won't know its there until they've already slid over it.
>>147969981
Stop being obtuse to a serious balance issue because its one you abuse yourself, faggot.
Finally had to chase someone around the pig tree. God that was fucking annoying.
>tfw you spam the chat of a twitch user whining about window jukes
>incompetent dev team
>cancerous community
Seems like a match made in heaven
>>147971596
Pretty much this.
>fine your waifu
>She's in a dead game
C'est la vie
I'll always love you meg
Game is dead pack it up go home Evolve killed it.
>>147973973
Being more alive than evolve doesn't make it not dead you mong
>>147973687
how much was the fine for?
>Wraith match on Autohaven
>It's the Wretched Shop
>Go into the garage and the Wraith finds me there
>Jump over the furthest window and run away
>Notice the Wraith isn't moving after me
>A moment later he quits
I wasn't even infijuking.
>>147974772
Wraiths get mad when they can't camp hooks.
>3 lagfag wraiths in a row.
>>147973687
>Just wanted some Trapper on Meg action
>Devs killed the game so I'll never see Meg get dominated by the Trapper like a little slut
life is suffering
>>147976563
Meg is pure.
>>147976646
Meg wants it and she knows it. She teases the Trapper all the time so that in one trial he'll use her exactly how she wants to be used - like a moaning mess of a slut.
By not having this game fixed on the exact same weekend that Evolve went F2P, they've ensured it's demise
HOWEVER this has been the most fun I've had with the game in a while, because most of the infinijukers have quit.I even started playing survivor myself and am having a blast and surviving WITHOUT infinijuking. high rank survivors a shit
>>147976963
I think she's more of a Hillbilly kind of girl.
>>147977135
MEG IS TRAPPER'S PROPERTY, SHILLBILLYS NEED NOT APPLY
>>147977128
case in point
>>147977761
Evolve will die again really quickly. It wasn't just the Semitic business model that killed it.
>>147977889
Evolve dying again won't bring people to this game again. This game had streamers pushing it, a Steam sale bringing tons of new people in...and they fucked it up. Evolve managed to steal a ton of it's thunder by having those same streamers suddenly become very vocally frustrated, and a playerbase that turned very sour very quickly.
It doesn't matter if Evolve dies again. DbD isn't going to be able to recreate the perfect storm that they lucked into. Fixing the game might bring some people back, but they screwed the pooch.
>>147977889
It will live longer than this shitty game
>>147978250
I don't think they've doomed the game just yet, but if they don't roll in a ton of fixes soon then yes it's done.
>http://store.steampowered.com/stats/?l=english
>Current / Peak
>25,001 / 41,036 Evolve Stage 2
> 7,939 / 14,670 Dead by Daylight
>>147978585
To be fair one is free to play and the other isn't. One is also a month old and the other just went free to play and may as well be new to most players.
This game is still probably doomed but I don't think Evolve will have any impact on this game.
>>147978526
They won't fix anything.
If they gave a flying fuck about their product they'd have fixed them by now.
Hell, everyone was pissed off because they didn't have "survive with friends" on release and they said "its a top prio as soon as we're done with e3" and where is it?
This game was a cash grab and nothing more and they don't give a fuck about it.
>>147978934
>Hell, everyone was pissed off because they didn't have "survive with friends" on release and they said "its a top prio as soon as we're done with e3" and where is it?
while I think this studio is stupid, this complaint is even fucking dumber
First, E3 was just a fucking month ago. That is NOTHING when it comes to introducing a brand new queue that will split the already dwindling player base. Second, since this game is already heavily skewed to survivors, "survive with friends" will be an auto lose for the Killer every single time without rebalancing, testing, and then more rebalancing.
Stop being a fucking retard . If survive with friends drops and the game is exactly as it is right now, THEN you can bitch.
>>147979276
>If survive with friends drops and the game is exactly as it is right now
Hasn't this already been confirmed to be the plan?
>>147979328
>confirmed
show me
>>147979428
I don't have any proof, I just remember seeing something on the forums that seemed to point that way.
>>147979276
>Its dumb to be upset that the Devs can't keep promises to their consumers
Shill much? Holy shit.
met this fella today, boy was he charming
>>147979480
shill this: you're a fucking dumbass, and the fact that you even WANT survive with friends confirms this, or it confirms you haven't played more than three seconds of the game. you played survivor, died, and thought "boy, this sure would be better if i could cheat"
KYS
>>147979714
>All this butthurt
Take your own advise sperg.
>>147979823
enjoy your dead game
infijuke it to the ground bud
>>147979902
I'm enjoying your anal devastation I'll tell you what.
Anyone else deliberately let survivors go when you think they deserve it?
I'm just here for a good time, man, I don't care about scores or whatever.
>>147981149
I always let Meg go. I keep hoping one will let me do lewd things to her as Trapper.
>>147981149
I sometimes let qt Megs go if they are the last one and I killed the rest. But I'm low level with shit perks so I don't get the opportunity to go easy on them anymore. Maybe once I'm level 50.
>>147981149
I help them if they got dicked by d/cs. I once let a level 1 rank 20 dwight live because he out lasted a bunch of 10 and lower ranks in the game, but usually no.
saturday night and nobody is posting. GG no re. Good luck Evolve
>>147983689
All they had to do was fix infijuking in the last patch, but alas, they want their game to die. They got their money, so why do they care?
>>147984245
sad part is that the game is still fun in low ranks.
I'm a rank 5 killer, and only got frustrated enough with infinijuking to play survivor this weekend. And because low ranks haven't learned to be assholes yet, nobody is inifinjuking, and everybody is playing the game. It's stupid fun. I'm currently trying to derank my killerwhich is a damning statement for a multiplayer game
>>147965661
I refunded it, first time I ever refunded a Steam game actually
>>147985520
>tfw i played it too much
>One dead, two escape, I'm the last one left but don't have enough points to rank up
>Decide to go for the hatch
>Killer is there and manages to grab me just in time
>He's a Wraith and the grab bug happens
>We're now sitting here waiting for the other to quit
>Start up a movie
You brought this upon yourself when you failed to show yourself at the door.
>>147977258
Ew no
>>147985951
I didn't realize how dead it was, even these threads used to have more activity. I've seen popular streamers up against each other as killer and survivor more than once.
>>147987317
Ofcourse its dead.
Why would anyone play a game who's devs stance is "pay us, fuck you and your pleas for balance."
>>147987317
Devs fault. Balance is out of whack, ranking system is so fucked 9/10 killers nuke the lobby rather than start the game, and I keep having games where the killer quits as soon as it becomes clear he won't win.
Has anyone tried walking backwards to a generator to counter spine chill?
>>147986368
It can be fixed by changing settings from maximum to lowest
>>147987546
>>147987590
Even this general is so dead, it used to have a decent amount of activity.
>>147987682
Is it the Wraith who has to fix it or the survivor?
>>147986368
Everytime that's happened to me, I keep thinking that I'll have to leave the game running, but they always quit after like 10 minutes or so
>>147987590
I'm a high ranked killer, and I nuke the lobby anytime the there's a bunch of high ranked survivors. I will also leave the fuck out of a game, but not because it's clear i wont win. I'll stay in a game I wont win. I won't stay in a game of infinijuking assholesthis is why my low ranked survivor games are fun as fuck. nobody infinijukes. the killer camps from time to time but fuck it, he loses real hard by doing so
>>147987768
It works for the wraith, no idea if the survivor can fix it
>>147987698
People aren't going to talk about a game they're not playing.
The community's concerns should have been addressed and fixed 2 weeks after E3.
They weren't.
The Dev's are just cashing their steam sale checks and moving on, so why shouldn't we?
>>147987807
I only nuke the lobby if it is full of Jakes. I play Trapper and only have Iron Grasp 1.
If it isn't full of Jakes/toolbox users then I'll play with them even though they are level 50 and have all the best perks and I don't have shit.
>>147987919
It's not the items and perks i'm dodging. It's the likely hood of infinijuking. It's much harder to come across on the lower ranks
>>147987807
>the killer camps from time to time but fuck it, he loses real hard by doing so
I wish. I had a match today where I got hooked, then the killer sat and watched me until I died, and my teammate sat and watched HIM until I died. Later while I was spectating he did it again.
Needless to say they did not get all five generators up and running.
>>147988530
>People don't try and get 2 gens ASAP so if the worst happens they can hatch out
I'll never understand why they don't.
>>147988660
Hatching out rarely works in my experience. The killer will almost always find it first and camp it. I've had more luck powering all the generators while they hatch camp, then opening a door.
>Game takes too long to level up in
>Everyone has broken perks because of cheating
>At highest level of play survivors are basically unkillable because of poor map design
This game was doomed from the start.
How is lasted this long is beyond me.
>>147989858
Eh, not really. The poor map design is as simple as moving a window or two in the big buildings on each map. They did it with the shack after the beta.
The game is doomed because the devs are incredibly slow and incompetent. Everything in the game could be fixed within a week or two if they had the will.
>>147987807
>the killer camps from time to time
No, fuck that, I'm still low rank/level and the Killers camp all the fucking time. It sucks ass if you get caught, and if you don't get caught it's a boring, easy win.
>>147990069
Normally I'd say they camp because of the infinijukes, but even Trappers do it so I guess it's just idiots being idiots.
>>147990138
The other thing too, not many people do infinijuke at this lower level play. So yeah, it's just shitters.
>shitter Survivors getting caught within 30 secs of a match starting
>shitter Killers camping hooks and not even being able to get 8K points when just one person (usually me) survives
Shitters all around.
>>147989965
They don't care. This was just a cash grab before the Friday the 13th game came out. Now that they got all that steam sale money they are shelving this game, despite the fact that if they fixed shit, moved character files to their server and rolled out crates they could stand to make a fuck ton more money.
This game could be saved by the community if we just DIDN'T use the infinijukes
thats IT!
>>147990069
Well I hope it gets better for you (if the game lasts long enough). It's a weird mix, because when I was ranking up my killer, I'd routinely kill 3-4. And now that I'm on survivor it's the opposite: there are routinely 3-4 survivors
>>147990138
I did get camped by a Trapper earlier today and I was just thinkign "but...why dude...this makes no sense...". But I'm also pretty sure he was a cheater since the manner in which he found me was off the wall crazy in the first place
>>147990393
That's the thing though, the Friday game looks like it's at least a year off. It isn't competition and it isn't going to bury the game unless the devs bury it first.
>>147990460
>unless the devs bury it first.
Well they are. There was a dev stream the other day and its clear they don't have any understanding of the actual problems with the game.
>>147990692
I just looked them up and the devs are Canadian. Everything makes sense now.
If you patch the bug, it wins.
Who /f13g/ here?
Saving from death, but no idea why
>only level 18
>Sprint Burst 3
>Lightweight 3
>Smacked through a window
>Even though this is bullshit people will constantly say its okay because they assume you're infijuking if you're complaining about it.
Its bullshit and all of you know it, but hey, like all complaints about balance in this game it will fall on deaf ears.
>>147989858
>Game takes too long to level up in
Maybe if you're bad. You can easily play whatever role you're best at and collect those bloodpoints for another character.
>>147994845
>Only if you're bad
Um. No, even getting 15k+ each match it takes forever.
That's not even something you can argue, its just a fact.
>>147959847
The queue for killer is still a lot longer than the queue for survivor. High level Jakes can fuck the game up majorly, but retarded killers who camp instead of scaring people off of gens/hooks are partially to blame.
I don't know why it's so hard to just walk away when someone reaches a jukespot. It's better to just fuck with everyone away from a bus or house, let them get those spots first.
>>147994840
Smacking through a window is legit. Killers have to aim properly or it'll hit the sides. I don't what to think about the new half-sprint window jump though. I know why it was added, but I think the game needs a stamina system
>>147995018
Don't pay attention the loadout screen for several hours. If you're constantly going to back to the bloodweb to grab 1~2 shitty addons that don't matter after every game, of course you'll feel frustrated. This is not Hearthstone, you're not useless if you don't have every meta perk. Having to play chainsaw billy in autohaven is several degrees of magnitude more bullshit than facing a team of survivors all with 4 perks.
>>>147995451
>The queue for killer is still a lot longer than the queue for survivor.
>Just finished a game where a hillbilly was bodyblocking me while reviving he chain saw while 3 gens were finished and an exit was opened
>Can't help but laugh at how much time this retard wasted just for 1 sac.
>>147994190
>level 37 meg
>Still only have sprint burst 1.
>>147996981
RNG in this game is gay
>>147995451
The problem is when the whole team does it. Ive had games where people just slowly peck away at gens get hit once go to the juke spot and self heal.
>>147997387
You can still get points and not all gens are close enough to a juke spot
lol
>>147998186
camp baby?
>>147998469
What?
>Wraith fags who BM hit/bong when they hook someone
>Survivors who teabag in exits
You did what your supposed to do... woooow so good.
>>147998501
You got no points and one kill. Looks like you camped the fuck out of one player and let everyone get away.
>>147998661
There's literally nothing wrong with camping so long as it is to ensure a cancerous streamer ranks down and gets no experience.
>>147998661
So? I'm rank 1 I don't care about pips.
>>147998186
Is he deranking on purpose? He was rank 1 like 3 days ago.
>>147999149
No, he's been slowly deranking since the patch.
>HEY
>CLAUDETTE
>I'M COMIN' FOR YOUR BAGUETTE
>healing other survivor
>progress bar goes halfway and just stops dead
>I'm still working on it and even making the QTEs, it's just stopped
>fuck up a QTE, progress bar drops and starts filling again as I heal the survivor
>hits halfway and then stops again
>new game
>survivor is bleeding out
>no heal prompt
>other survivor is tap dancing on the survivor's back trying to get the prompt and obviously can't get it either
>new game
>can't turn the camera
You don't want me to play you, DbD? Good. I won't.
>>148001925
You can fix the camera issue by left clicking.
>>148001925
>can't turn the camera
Alt tab out and back in again
>>148002232
Or right clicking. Maybe some other inputs too, I dunno.
Still not a good sign for a professionally made game. I mean, turning the camera isn't exactly one of those fringe events that can slip through testing.
>>148001925
Survivor bleeding out but no heal prompt is due to the window glitch. If the killer tries to pick up a dying survivor humping a window, it glitches out the prompts. Killer can't pick them up, but neither can you.
>>148002797
I don't think the devs test the game at all. Remember that the first patch supposed to fix everything (which fixed nothing) disabled the ability to plant traps near windows. This means the devs never tested the patch in a single game with a Trapper as the killer.
>>148003263
Worse glitches have happened in bigger games without being noticed.
They didn't change anything with trapper stands to reason they wouldn't think he'd be effected.
>buy a fun new game on steam during sale
>its pretty good and addictive
>decide the check out the /vg/ gen for it
>lurk for a few days, read tips and lulzy stories
>want to contribute, do my best to make a funny OC
>spend like 10 minutes on it (may not seem long but im a fuckup and this felt like an accomplishment)
>get absolutely zero (You)'s long after you made the post
( ;__;)
( .__.)
>>148004150
Yeah, but it means if they tested it they never did a single game where one of them played Trapper. You don't need to be specifically checking the Trapper for bugs to figure something so obvious out.
>>148004550
If your muffler has a leak you don't check for faulty wiring in your glove box.
I don't want to give them too much credit because the dev's are pretty incompetent, but they don't play full mock games to test bugs, no company really does. They went in to test if the changes they made were working properly but there's wasn't any reason for them to trap windows to do so, so they wouldn't have.
>>148005252
If you're making a patch for a multiplayer videogame with short matches, you generally play a round of said videogame before pushing the update out. See if it works or completely breaks the game.
>>148005309
A thought occurs to me: They did do a Trapper round, but none of them were smart enough to trap any windows.
While we're on this subject, why can't I trap closets?
>>148005309
No, they wouldn't.
They'd load in to see if sprint burst had a proper CD
They'd smack each other to see if healing was slowed to their liking and they'd leave the game. They wouldn't play a full round.
No company bug tests like you're saying. Period.
>>148005390
>While we're on this subject, why can't I trap closets?
Not like anyone uses closets in the first place.
Probably has something to do with their specific animations, and problems that might occur if you were in mid one and started the other.
>>148005628
They wouldn't play a ten minute match to test a patch that took two weeks, with no additional patch two weeks later?
>>148005739
No?
I don't know how many times I need to say this before you understand. They don't play matches to test shit.
Got it now, or are you still too retarded?
>>148005845
>game companies don't do negative testing
The retarded ones, maybe, I guess. Oh, sorry, I mean 'agile'.
>>148005845
Well I guess this is why their game is going to be dead by daylight.
>Get survivor onto shoulder
>Cant move until they dc (or I dc, I guess)
I've gotten this glitch twice tonight and it's really annoying. Stuck in it right now actually.
>>148006694
Deserved, wraith faggot.
>>148006198
>>148006162
>Unforseen bug
>Fixed within 12 hours
>hurr so bad! Shoulda tested it XD
Idiots.
>>148006816
I just want teachable bloodhound, leave me alone
>>148006816
I mean that they seem so averse to playing their own game that they don't even play a round after spending a week or two on a patch. The lead designer probably has fewer hours played than the average player.
>>148006694
Change the resolution
>>147969792
This right here. Why is that only completely retarded devs are the only ones that have good ideas like dead by daylight. I've been waiting 7 years for a game where you can play as the monster. What fucking idiot came up with perks that hard counter certain killers, or make sacrificing players impossible if you don't catch that Jake with max rank sabo right off the bat, or have max rank iron grip yourself.
Even the items in this game are just bizarre. Flashlight pretty much only works on wraith, even then if you aren't flashing him while he's cloaked getting a blind on him while he's coming at you is not worth it unless it's your only shot at escape. Maps are only good for maxing out objective points 2 minutes into the game so you can focus on smashing all the hooks and bear traps over helping you team, if your going to be a prick to the killer you may as well be a prick to the survivors too.
Window cheesing is just the result of moronic map design, most of which can be quickly patched by blocking off some windows while opening more doors for the killer. The worst part is, from the 1.01 update patch post, they're looking at some stamina mechanic as a way of punishing window cheesing. All they have to do is fuck about with the design of the juke buildings and play test their reworks until the survivor actually has to lose the killer. But instead they're going to listen to the "Muh realism" autismos and spend weeks fucking about and introducing more problems when they could fix something in a day
>>148008941
If you're competent you get a job at a nice soulless mega publisher where everything from mechanics to concepts are decided by market research and suits.
>Make a wraith rage quit with repeated killer burns
Daily reminder to do your daily duty to the Emperor.
>>148009250
>when you stay uncloaked as wraith so the entire team gets all the gens next to the jukebus and away from the basement first
>ends up being points heaven during the final 2 gens
No jukes
All spooks
>>148008941
The problem with adjusting juke buildings is the the vagueness in what's considered a juke. Yes, some juke buildings are blatantly retarded and they should write down some design guidelines to prevent it from happening again. But you'll have some areas that aren't jukes being reworked because the current playerbase of killers are too retarded to overcome it.
The stamina mechanic is a good idea, as it opens the design space to make whatever ridiculous buildings they want and not have to worry about whether or not it allows for infinite jukes. Of course, that's assuming the stamina system only impacts your window hopping speed, which we both know isn't going to be the case. It'll probably be almost as dumb as Notch's hunger system.
i really really really don't want this game to die
>against Trapper on Rancid Abattoir
>one survivor hooked and sac'd in the basement because they were stupid enough to hide in a closet after being saved and didn't take the many chances they had to leave
>get down to last gen
>someone else gets hooked in the basement
>have a daily for unhooking survivors
>already gotten a lot of points so decide to go for the rescue
>hide behind a closet near the stairs
>last gen done
>killer comes upstairs
>checks around a bit
>he's about to leave and the guy still has a quarter of his meter left
>suddenly the guy stops struggling
>>148009631
The only broken areas are the unique buildings, school bus, and the rock wall by the tree in some farm levels. Standard walls in maze areas don't need tweaking, even pre-patch any killer could hit them with a little misdirection. No mechanical changes were ever necessary.
Can I let someone bleed out as Trapper to get the daily ritual of killing someone?
>>148010000
Blame the shit devs.
>>148010730
There's a single long wall in coldwind farm with a window in the middle. I couldn't catch the survivor no matter how much I ran around it. Is that area a juke spot, or do I need to get better at the game? Design changes are only obvious for extreme cases. I assume people will escalate their whining about jukes to areas that aren't actually jukes and further waste dev time to redesign them, leading to counter-complaints about the devs casualizing the game for killers.
Speaking of mechanic changes, the sabotage mechanic is far too binary. Either sabotage completely ruins the killer's day or serves as a boldness booster; there's no in-between. I think it would be a lot better if sabotaging gave non-struggling survivors the ability to drop off the hook at a 100% success rate and destroys the hook. This limits the effectiveness of sabotage and the toolbox/saboteur/iron grasp can have their numbers tweaked back to sane levels.
>>148011657
Regarding the juke spots, it's not exactly a juke if you don't lose the killer now is it. Also, devs have been toying around with a mechanic that'll apparently fix all of them at once.
>>148011909
Well, I assume by "juke spot" we mean a place where it's impossible for the killer to hit the survivor when both play near perfectly. But not everybody is good at the game. They might think an area is a juke spot when they just need skill, but instead they complain to the devs that the area is a juke spot and they need to fix it.
>Also, devs have been toying around with a mechanic that'll apparently fix all of them at once.
Yeah, but as >>148008941 said, the new mechanic can very easily introduce loads of other problems if not handled properly. Considering these are the same devs which changed the bloodweb without realizing they destroyed the purpose of offerings, I don't think they understand how to properly playtest their changes. If it doesn't cause more problems than it solves, it seems like it'll be luck, and there will still be the various perk problems plaguing high ranked games.
>>148012327
What pissed me off is when I heard "We never had this behavior during testing."
REALLY?
FUCKING REALLY NOW?
WHO WAS TESTING THE GAME, A BUNCH OF FUCKING MONKEYS?
>>148012351
No, they borrowed valve playtesters.
>>148012583
>One single retard kept making a right turn, so let's get rid of the right turn
HO LEE FUK
>>148009631
>The stamina mechanic is a good idea
That depends entirely on how it's implemented. If it's a system that's tied to the player and affects every single vault spot, then that would be awful. There are spots like in Auto Wreckers that have a series of windows and pallets that a survivor absolutely needs to use in order to put distance between them and the killer to give them a chance to lose them. You put a universal stamina mechanic that punishes players every time they use a vault move and now they end up getting fucked for even using them. Suddenly those distance builders are now working against you and cutting the distance between you and the killer.
If anything, the specific window itself should have a "stamina" system and not the player itself. The problem spots, like the 3 windows at auto wreckers, could be nested into one family and share the same stamina pool. Cheese that and you risk crawl speeds.
Knowing the devs and their idiocy though, they will absolutely tie it to players. Vaulting would become as useless as hiding in closets.
Personally, I don't believe in the stamina system. The game is very arcade like and the foundation is rock solid. The problem with the juke spots are entirely based on poor design. All the trouble spots are the unique buildings. You don't see anyone attempting window cheeses on the random walls on the edges of the map.
>>148012583
How do I avoid retarded playtesters like this and find people who are good at games to test my shit?
>>148013301
Probably give them a test, like an old game and see how well they play it.
>>148013335
That or ask them what games they play/like the most, see how casual they are. If they can play something like Aurora or Dwarf Fortress, you've got the right kind of autist for the job.
>play nothing but survivor for 30 hours
>try hillbilly because I only have killer rituals
>10 merciless victories in a row
>rank up to 14 in one day
What the fuck are you faggots complaining about, again?
>>148014816
Nothing really, except for some problematic areas. I personally don't even get why they nerfed survivor perks.
>>148014816
>play against scrubs
>HUE KILLER EASY MODE
typical retard survivor desu
What's the deal with using your finger to trigger a bear trap? Couldn't you just move it to the side or flip it upside-down?
>>148014816
What >>148015476 said.
It's all fun & games until you hit about rank 11. Then you get nothing but infini jukers, self healing scum, & saboteurs.
The game literally becomes unplayable as a killer.
>>148015782
Yeah, or just pick up a twig and use that instead for fucks sake
Any lewd stories and or greentext screencaps?
>>148018707
only dwightxtrapper
>>148018837
Fine by me. Post it?
>>148009487
Guys what's going on, I didn't get my Perfect Killer achievement.
>>148018837
What. That sounds hilarious, please post.
Also Survivors sound hilarious when being carried. NYUH
>>148021378
>waifu
Anon...
good morning /dbdg/
have you infinijuked your killer today?
>>148022675
No need, had three newbie Wraiths so far, talking one or no perks. The last one somehow lost track of me after I just ran in a straight line and then crouched behind some boxes. Don't know what I did to be so blessed.
>>148022675
I got paired with a lag monster where he would teleport next to me and I would teleport into a wall
>>148021719
>implying Trapper is not prime waifu material
But no, I just found it funny.
>be killler
>everybody dcs except one jake
>find him disabling a hook, think he's going to be a faggot
>when he sees me, he walks up and crouches so we begin our farm together like bros
>after i'm farmed and he's farmed, he walks up to a hook and crouches
he...he let me sacrifice him guys...i was going to let him leave but he let me kill him. *sniff*
>Playing Wraith
>Claudette in the match refuses to use the infinite juke spot on the map, and instead gives a fair and fun chase across the map through pallets
That was a really nice change of pace.
>Ebony memento mori on my bloodweb
Holy shit what an OP offering. Not having to hook anyone in a match is an insane time saver for a killer.
>>148024243
Now that the playerbase is starting to shrink, some survivors are taking the hint, and the game is becoming more fun
I've had survivors ACUTALLY juke me, and losing them is like "damn son how you do dat" instead of "oh. ok. i guess we're gonna go in a circle around this window now....aaaaand you're twerking. awesome".
>>148023550
RIP Jake.
Cheezing people with the chainsaw add-ons so they can't heal is fun.
>>148026584
It's only fun for 20% of the people involved.
>>148028207
So?
>activate all generators
>everyone escapes
>roughly even scores across the board
>lose a pip
Maybe I'm just not cut out for this game.
>>148028396
Gotta get 10k anon.
>>148028452
All of the survivors got in the 9000s. Were we supposed to sabotage each other or what?
>>148028780
Needed to interact with the killer more for those bold points anon.
>>148029054
That and others. The killer was cloaked most of the time, and in lieu of hooks he liked to knock people down, cloak, and wait for people to swoop in with the first aid. An innovative strategy, I suppose, but it didn't really work out for him.
The end result is that there wasn't a lot of boldness or altruism points going around, and we all ended up losing points because we got away without much drama. It shouldn't be possible to get punished for doing a good job like that.
>>148029481
When that happens you need to fill out objective points. Getting that ding for a category means you're at 5000 points, so Surviving and filling up Objective with minimal Killer interaction matches will make it up.
>try get 3+ gens
>even meet up and do gens together for that Altruism
>search for and open every chest you can
>then wait around at a gate
>most Killers will chase you out but you can even get a bit extra just by "escaping" them
Who is the shortest Killer? Trapper or Billy? Wraith is a beanpole.
>>148032207
Probably Billy, actually the way Billy lumbers about is real misleading.
>creeping towards a gate
>other guy still alive who tried to open it injured, obviously getting chased
>spot a lumbering figure run away from the gate
>get up and start to sprint towards the lever
>whacked in the face
>the lumbering figure was the injured Survivor
>>148032457
Billy is very sneaky. But there's nothing to indicate he's deformed as well as retarded? Only deformed.
To fix the game they should make Small Game only able to detect traps SOMETIMES, give every killer a trap like ability, and give trapper an additional type of trap, more powerful than bear traps.
>tfw
>>148033947
>retarded
I don't think anyone said that.
>Insidious
Why is this allowed? All mid rank Trappers seem to do is take it and hook camp, why the fuck would you camp when you have fucking traps.
>>148036338
>wahh he caught me first!
>>148036109
Just thinking
>>148033947
Aw, this is cute.
>>148037567
No actually, I was caught last, but I just hate hook camping in general. It makes for a really boring match where
>I'm doing gens with no fear of getting caught, since I know the Killer is just at the hook
>once on the hook (if I get caught, often campers allow me to rush gens and escape) I know I have absolutely no chance of getting off
Either way it's boring, and it's really not optimal either if you want dem points for your bloodweb. Multiple times now I've been the only one to escape from a camper, and they "win" with less than 9K points, whereas by walking away to survey the area a Killer can get much more chase time in, spread the hurt around and walk away with 15K+.
FUCK, what do?
I know that perk is kinda shit, but at the same time it'll mess up my perk collecting if I don't grab it right?
>Got stupid glitch that freezes you in place with survivor on your shoulder until they dc 5 times today
Leveling wraith is suffering.
The game isn't actually dying is it? I checked the community hub and it seemed to have a decent amount of players.
I go somewhere for ONE DAY and everyone is going insane saying the game is dying.
It's not true is it?
>just lost all my progress for no reason
Oh well, I was ready to play the game until the end, but now I think even I am going to drop it
Storing progression on the client side is the most retarded way to save maintenance cost. Not only everyone's cheating their saves, but even people who don't cheat are now losing their progression because of local corruption problems
>>148038848
Just grab it, you dont need the key.
>>148039019
But I have all these rare add-ons for the key.
>>148039168
Please, I would kill for your bloodweb, the entity might take out half of it easily. Just forget the key and move on.
>>148039168
You're just gonna use it once, end up in a game where 2 survivors disconnected in loading and you'll die in 15 seconds because of them damn whisper perks
That's how I lost my 2 keys anyway
>>148039454
I have both an add-on that protects the key from death, and allows me to reuse it after one use.
>>148039584
And when you use those addons instead of the detection ones, the key is pretty much useless
>>148038939
I'm savescumming the moment I lose my data. I almost have every survivor to level 25
>>148029481
It's actually a legitimate strategy if you have Deerstalker 3 equipped.
Them you just treat them like a generator you patrol
>>148038892
Just the general
level 1 rank 20 meg got me killed, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
>spawn in
>killer is basically right next to us
>finds me
>run to vault over window
>meg blocks it and vaults late
>able to vault over but get knocked down
>is able to unhook me but stops last second
>no one comes again until it's too late
Fuck my life.
>>148041717
For me, the worst part is usually when after all this, we're still at 5 generators left
>>148042097
Screenshot unrelated
Felt bad for the little fella. Ended up letting him go.
>>148042097
I mean, you got a pip so you shouldn't care but holy shit. People need to realize gens>saving dumb dumbs
>>148043129
I fucking don't understand why people have their twitch name as their username.
>>148043249
They want the Mori
>tfw running bloodhound/sloppy butcher
One hit is all I need baby.
>>148043249
Advertisement?
>>148043249
If they have their name on it, I suppose it would make it hard to steal the video. Or maybe people will see the name and then flock to the streamer to see themselves.
>>148043129
Oh hey man. Thanks. I was that dwight.
>join in lobby as level 10 rank 20 Dwight
>players in lobby tell you to fuck off and get out of lobby
>one of them convinces me to let them suck my dick
>what is going into 'kill your friends" instead to reduce the salt intake
>>148043129
He's just standing there waiting for death. Despair has consumed him, hope has died. He's on the verge of becoming a new Killer for the entity.
>>147977889
>It wasn't just the Semitic business model that killed it.
Does nobody read patch notes or something?
>>148045932
What kind of Killer would Dwight even be?
>>148046132
He's the most harmless looking survivor. Probably a horrifying-looking but ultimate harmless killer.
>>148044271
I couldn't sacrifice you after that flashlight battle. It was way too funny.
