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Official Stuff
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Post sad old men.
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1st for giving Mei her just reward.
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>>147808165
vanilla ice cream?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tfJv1X_x6I
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I have discovered that Junkrat and Symmetra makes a good combo on defense.
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>>147808224
>put up turrets in kill room
>put jumkrat trap in door
>they get carwashed and can do nothing to stop it
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>>147808224
>Symmetra

She's a really good defense hero if she knows what she's doing, though her utility is directly proportional to her teams competence. If her team is shit, she's just as bad as a Hanzo or Widow that can't aim.
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Anyone playing XBOX One? Hit me up pls lads
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>>147808298
>She's a really good defense hero if she knows what she's doing

That's not true. Symmetra is shit out side of few maps like Hanamura A or Anubis A defense.
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>>147808224
>I did good on a shitty character one game
>wow they're good guys!

kys
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>>147808272
I love having Junkrat spam pills from Sym's kill room, and Sym spam from a different choke point. The team will inevitably go towards the Junkrat's choke and get absolutely bodied.
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>>147808339
she's great on king's row and hollyood and vodka A
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>>147808339
>Hanamura A or Anubis A defense

Holy shit git gud.
Symmetra is great at defending Hanamura A and Anubis A. It's B that's hard to defend because of all the open spaces.
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Watchpoint Jabroni is my favorite map.
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>>147808224
>>147808298
I wish Symmetra turrets showed their range so I can just spread them out optimally
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>>147808196
Lol
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>>147808371
am I the only person who like Sym on Dorado? And not just for the exploit
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>>147808416
thats... what he's saying though?
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>>147808339
>put sym turrets in lil side room on numbani
>win
Always.
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>>147808416
>Reading comprehension: The Post
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>>147808502
Which one
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>Keep dying to a Hanzo who isn't aiming at anything in particular, just firing in the general direction of things
>Switch to Hanzo myself and just kill him over and over

I hope he watched every single Killcam.
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>>147808534
Next to the main point/initial payload, there's a hallway. Put them in there.
If the enemy gets the payload moving, stick your turrets in any given little room on the map. You'll always rack up some good kills like that.
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>Team Liquid literally testing their aimbot on spawn
What did they mean by this?
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>no traceranon gf
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>>147808484
>>147808512

Oh shit you're right. Well he could've worded it better though.
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PIRATES!

GIVE!
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Is 3 am a good time to do comp? I can't sleep
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>>147808606
I think they mean "Look at us we can aimbot and get away with it because we're Blizzard's poster boys"
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>>147808605
I play on ps4 but I'd like to know, can the turrets be efficient on pc ?
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>>147808658
I haven't really noticed any time being better or worse than any other time
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>>147808542
>Hanzo holds down an arrow
>Goes around corner
>Releases without seemingly aiming at all
>Headshot
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>>147808654
>literally just Rein's ult
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>>147808658

Just pick Hanzo. It's fun when you are tired.
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>>147808342
Literally i never implied or said that are you high?

>kys

nevermind just hang yourself
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>>147808760
post more girls
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skin mods when
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>>147808685
Yep! They work pretty well on pc, albeit you do have to place them well or else you'll get fucked.
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Blizz should release the terribad Overwatch mobile skins for its own characters and laugh in the face of those fucking chinks
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>>147808803
no
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>>147808803
never
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I thought Symmetra would have a skillset based on Portal 2 and I was disappointed to learn that she was just the engie things Torb didn't get plus a shield
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OH LETS BREAK IT DOWN
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You are chilling with your team in Anubis 2nd point, discussing about the finer things in life when suddenly you overhear the following

>OH LET'S BREAK IT DOWN
>OGON TO POTONOVSTI
>I GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
>JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE
>HAMMER DOWN

What do you do?
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>>147808542
>playing as Hanzo on defense in Dorado
>keep getting lucky headshots at enemy Zenyatta
>switches to Hanzo
>proceeds to hunt me down
>simple geometry commences
>payload nearing factory
>i'm on top of the bank building
>suddenly get hit on my left side
>it was him
>1 on 1 happens
>we weren't hitting each other
>raise reticle
>spam lmb
>hit him 2x with a headshot
>mfw
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>spectating game while i wait to join a friend
>watching this one mercy
>she's pretty good, healing everyone as needed and such
>watch her find an alone roadhog
>well, rest in peace
>nope
>she takes out her pistol and slaughters him
>he had full health she just headshotted a lot and took him down no problem
>she goes back to healing friend like it's nbd
Battle Mercys are fucking terrifying.
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>>147809038
HEROES NEVER DIE
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>>147809037

Just imagine the bounciness with all the jumping around.
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>>147809038
Enemy Lucios say Drop the Beat.
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>commit to a push
>MOOOLTEN COOORE
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>>147808308
Post rank
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>>147809129
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>>147809106
We need an actual fem omnic. I have a great need.
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>>147809219
Athena
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>>147809230
Does she have a mobile platform/body?
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>>147809038
wait until our mercy hiding behind the point protected by symettra turrets and a junkrat trap and rezzes us all

or alternatively if we're doing quickplay: EMBRACE TRANQUILITY
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>>147809290
Yep!
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i just wanted to play mercy
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>>147809320
I wonder what her kit would be.
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>>147809320
I eagerly wait for her release
Which is never, apparently
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>play at times when kids are in scool
>suddenly get good team comps and well communicating teams

fuck i need to be a neet to win in this game
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>>147809396
She would most likely be either a Support or Offense.
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How long is Roadhog's hook?
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>>147809396
I feel like she'd be a builder of some sort. Placing traps around the map rather than turrets, though, and maybe a minor support ability of some sort? Mild healing or something, like a Harmony Orb but not.
I could dig an EMP ult, too. turns off all nearby enemies' abilities for x amount of time.
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Post'em
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>>147809461
Offense would be interesting. So far we have a Defense and Support omnic but no Offense. Unless you count Genji.
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>>147808654

You already have spooky mask man for an edgelord hero.
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How do i git gud with Genji?
It seems like i need to raise my sens with him because he needs to do a lot of 180s don't he?
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Why is bully D.Va satisfying to play as?
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>>147809540
I dunno. It's just feels nice and easy.
And i'm D.Va main.
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>>147809527
spam your 50000 damage shurikens

you literally can't miss

double jump and climb wall non-stop
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>>147808542

>get behind a Hanzo and start shooting him
>he 360 noscopes me to the head

GOD

FUCKING

DAMN IT
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How could D.Va be buffed without making her too strong?
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>>147809597
It's always a toblerone checking out asses.
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>>147809617
remove the head hitbox from her mech
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>Sombra can place motion tracers and call in a helicopter/hover drone after X kills
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>>147809608
I don't know which is more frustrating, being shot at when you don't even know where he is and he shouldn't be able to see you (Sonic arrow shows up on killcam right?) or being shot at in close range when he's just literally aiming at the ground
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>>147808478
that got fixed ages ago so you clearly never play her on dorado
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>>147809617
Move her critbox behind
>>147809571
I love shoving people off of the sides of Lighthouse and Night Market
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Do you get rank xp if you win after a DC?
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>>147809073
mercies pistol does 400 damage in 1 magazine
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>>147809761
Headshot damage or general body damage?
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>>147809806
body
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>>147809608
>playing Genji poorly
>some Hanzo starts shooting at me
>waste a good 30 seconds spamming shuriken at him while he spams arrows at me, both of us missing every time because we're both strafing and neither of us can aim
>it ends when I remember that my E exists and the Hanzo gets a deflected headshot on himself
I'm sure both of our teams were glad they had us around
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>>147809738
>>147809617
Why not just remove her critbox entirely? It's not like she'll turn into a hyper offensive threat if that happened with that spread, slow down, and damage fall off.
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>>147809485

I got a McCree name if that counts
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So far so good. At least these later matches haven't been like my first and nobody has left yet.
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Does Pharah get countered by competent S76 players more so later on? I'm surprised at how well I'm doing in my placement matches.
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>>147809867
yes, although mccree is a much harder counter
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>>147809829
Jesus. So she can take down tanks pretty easy so long as they don't nab her.
Mercy is scary.
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>>147809867
Yes, and Widowmakers but the thing is those kind of Soldiers and Widowmakers shit on everyone if their opponents don't quickly get out of their los and find a different angle to attack them at.
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>lose round 1 after 6 minutes
>3 people leave
Who else has given up on achieving a good rank in s1 and is just farming weapon?
Between sudden death, koth exp bugs and the game being new before shit is established, I feel like rank this season is just worth shit.
Any tips on tanking to like 25-30?
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>>147808654
>gun projectile is a bomb

Not another "plunk, plunk, plunk" hero.
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>>147809924
yeah, but it takes 4 seconds to fire 20 bullets
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>>147809834
This is my dream, along with random ejection from the mech. It only works if everything else remains the same though, so it's all up to whether blizzard is approaching this as buffing D.Va or fixing her.
>inb4 pointless fiddling with numbers on spread, falloff and movement speed and nothing done at all about crit box and mech/foot transition.
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>>147809981
DUDE
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>>147809924
D.va's pistol apparently does more because of its rate of fire even though its base damage is lower.
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>>147809952
Be a bad Mei and block your teammates
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>>147809617
Maybe have small explosive damage upon MEKA being destroyed?
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>>147810013
WEED
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>>147810078
ROFL
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>>147809628
he does have the perfect ass-level cam
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>>147810078
LMAO
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>>147810015
I thought they averaged out to the same DPS?
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>>147810146
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Zero Suit D.Va is actually pretty comfy to play as
I wish there was a character with her gun that also had abilities and everything
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>>147810238
You might be right. There's a spreadsheet somewhere online with all this info.
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>>147810252
i wish you could just stick her gun out of the front of the mech
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>standoff at nepal village
>pulse bomb their support and soldier
>recall out
>no ally pushes in

my fault for playing tracer tbqhfam
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>>147810252
what if they made zero suit dva the default character and then her ult was a super juiced up mecha of doom on a timer
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>tfw my Dota skills made me the best Roadhog in owg.
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I do hope D.va to becomes a viable choice in comp someday. She could be another check to Winston. Winston trying to shock her MEKA is a perfect display of armour's advantages.
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>>147810367
Prove it, post stats
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>>147810357
So basically Winston
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>>147810367
Isnt dota a top down rts game? How does that translate to fps?
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>>147810434
Hook aim
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>>147810428
no, and in fact the problem with d.va right now is that she's a worse winston

i mean her zero suit form becomes her default, she gets a shift and E skill and everything and then for ult a mech with very high HP and shitloads of damage, something like molten core
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When not to streetpig? In which maps or modes will I just be feeding ult and would be better off as someone else?
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>>147809617
I still don't get how removing the speed decrease upon firing would make too strong as most of people seem to think. Her gun doesn't really feel that strong even if you are shooting unmoving target directly in face. Considering the damage Hog and even Rein and Zarya can dish out.
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>>147810386

Well, when the tournament aren't running on babby rules we are already seeing people picking D.Va on some maps to check Winston.
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>>147810493
It doesn't really fit her current lore. She wasn't recruited as a foot soldier. I know there's already heavy story and gameplay segregation but that's clearly not what they had in mind when coming up with D.va.
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>>147810252
the better question is why they didnt make zero suit d.va the default character and the meka with no critbox as her ult
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So now that healing sniper is confirmed, what do you think the alt be? What could be cool is a Mini sentry mod that attach on people and shoot on their own.

The ult could be a massive spike in damage, and healing for 5-10 on a character. Like a constant double Mercy beam that you attach on a character and they just heal on their own people around the character you attached. Attach the pod on a Reinhard and people around him are healed as if he was a Mercy.
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>>147810583
Agreed. It'd be more fun from a gameplay perspective for sure, but she was clearly envisioned as a mech pilot character.
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>>147810583
you're right, it was just some food for thought

but i do think blizz will have problems balancing d.va since she is basically a more unreliable winston. d.va can fuck up, winston literally can't fuck up because his weapon is autoaim. but then again that might be a problem with winston being a bit overtuned right now.

it's just that i think there is way too much overlap between these 2
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>>147810614
it will be a sniper rifle that shoots healing grenades like soldiers AoE heal

her shift will probably be a shield or some sort of movement ability

her ultimate will probably just be another zen ult that nullifies damage
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>>147810614
poison rounds
you have to remember that if she is support, she cannot actually snipe enemies
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>>147810614
>healing sniper
Not confirmed, picture even says that it can be converted totmore nefarious means. What would a presumed Talon affiliated sniper want with healing rounds?
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JEFF KAPLAN TALKS ABOUT SUDDEN DEATH CHANGES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA0bgE2P1oA
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>>147810742
Por que no los dos? A sniper healing rifle seems like a useful asset especially if you can swap between firing modes.
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rank exp gain in groups is fucked up in this game

if you're in a group of people between 60 and 67 and your general skill cap is around 67 then the lower ranked people will never get to it because you start splitting games around that rank and lower ranked players don't gain more and higher ranked players don't lose more, at best only marginally

so if you're 60 and split avg rank 65-66 games you gain and lose as much as a lvl 67 does

what do you guys think?
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>>147810704
Well it could be but Mercy does not like the weapon, because it's too offensive. Also, Torb created it, so I think small sentries or some kind of pod like "Toxic fumes" could be good. Like Nanomachines that attack people and heal people on your team
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>>147810614
I thought an ult that could give everyone a leech life/ you get healed if you do damage buff would be cool but I realized it's kind of tricky coming up with a good indicator to your team. Sure, everyone would figure it out eventually but how about the first five times?
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>>147810614
Oh shit we might be getting a medic sniper? That's pretty cool
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Is it bad that I just want a plain Solidery character like 76, but he uses a shotgun and like sets trip mines or something?
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>>147810723
Why not? Just make it so that the bullets deal low damage, not like Zen, and make people slower or have DoT type of damage instead. Poison based maybe?
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can we nerf pharah already

i dont care about her damage, im annoyed by her rockets dislocating me for miles despite being only splash hits
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The game doesnt need another healer. I hope this new character, if they are a support, is just full enemy team debuff, rather than sitting on the li e with more healing that people will just call useless.
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>>147810807
Yep was posted by Overwatch on Facebook.
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>>147809485
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>>147810698
You could give her range. Make her a ranged tank or something? Like her guns fire rounds similar to her pistol but their combined DPS (since there's two guns) would be something like Mercy's pistol or a bit more. It would probably need an ammo count of course. I don't know how viable that'd be but it is different.
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>>147810905
We another flying character so they can keep each other in check.
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>>147810997
>Widow and Handslol doesnt keep Phara in check
k
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>>147810997
Soldier, Mccree, Genji, Widowmaker, Hanzo, Mei, Tracer

She has ton of counters.
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>>147811036
>widowmaker allowed to participate in a game
>hanzo ever relevant
k
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>>147811105
Roadhog too.
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>>147811105
>genji
>hanzo
>mei
>tracer
>pharah counters

might as well just say every character in the game with a gun is a pharah counter kek
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148th for Blizzard-endorsed aimbotting by professional player EnvyUs.Taimou in Overwatch tournaments
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>>147811119
Slightly lower, but if she's grabbed, she's dead yes.
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>>147811105
only soldier really counters her and that's moot as soon as she has an attentive mercy on her
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>>147811151
Not really, any character with range.
Mei and Genji can snipe easily, Tracer deal massive damage and is mobile.
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The counter to pharah is widowmaker or soldier 76. Theoretically bastion too but bastion is booty outside the lowest skill brackets.

The counter to zarya is no one.
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>>147810993
Maybe a more interesting ult would help. Her ult is very slow charging and probably the easiest ult to stop in the game.
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>>147810853

Now that you mention that, it would have been good to have Gabriel be that as a counter to 76, then Sombra could have had reapers skillset as the big bad
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>>147811239
widow counters zarya pretty hard
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>>147811234
Genji vs Pharah is a skill matchup because Genji can pretty much deal with everybody if he has god tier aim.

Mei vs Pharah benefits Pharah since at longer ranges she has the advantage. Yeah potentially you can snipe her but lets be fucking real your icicles deal 35 damage at the ranges you will usually be shooting Pharah at, while she needs 3 rockets.
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>>147811239
The counter to Zaryha is not shooting her while the shields are up.
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>>147811239
That seems to happen quite a bit. A lot of potential counters just aren't viable outside of a 1v1 scenario with a certain hero while they're clearly intended to be a counter they're just anus out of doing that.
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>fucking seagull made weeb shit popular
>fucking surelock going full cancer with tracer
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>>147811316
>widow counters zarya pretty hard
Oh okay.

>shoot zarya with fully charged headshot
>it does 300 damage, she has 400 hp
>she puts up a shield to block followup shots

Yeah what a hard counter man.
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>>147811338
>meanwhile in pro games Zaryas are constantly at 50+ charge due to residual aoe damage and barriers on high priority targets

le just dont shoot her meme xd
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>>147811347
*outside of
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>>147811376
>watch for her shield
>wait for it to go down
>shoot
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>>147811380
just let her kill your team :))) its not like 2 seconds means anything :))) you wouldnt mind a 2 second stun on everyone trying to shoot zarya would you?
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>>147811338
How do you cancel pharah or junkrat's projectiles midair before they hit her? I was not aware that this was possible but you're so confident that I'm curious now.
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mei buff when
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>>147811349
genji is actually the best carry hero in the game though

and tracer is the highest skill cap hero in the game just because of her blink ability
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been in queue for about 8 minutes
is overwatch finally dead?
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>>147811469
Mei removal when
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>>147811234

Tracer works great against a Pharah when she needs to touch the ground, but is fucking useless against her otherwise.
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>>147811376

>Cap Zarya with 100% charge headshot
>She shields
>Oh, your second shot is finished charging conveniently right when her shield goes down

If you're gonna say she went off to hide, that means you've taken her out of play for a little bit, so you still did good.
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>>147811487
That depends, platform and timezone?
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>shit teammates are ok
>complaining about it isnt
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>>147811469
>mei freezes genji and holds him in an awkward pose
>her heavy breathing melts the ice around his crotch
>genji seeing mei being a dom flips his switch and he gets a robo chubby
>mei starts deep throating him while still holding him up
>just as he's about to cum she drops him and he shatters
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>le just dont shoot her xD xxD
>just stare at her while she melts your face off with that free 50 charge she got from your rein's fire strike or symmetra's energy ball xDD
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>there are people out there who blink with rightclick

?
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>>147811469
>mei freezing genji ever
kek thats when you know its fictional
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>>147811487
everyones doing weekly brawl because it's actually winnable and games don't take an hour of overtime
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>>147811592
>blink

?
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>>147808610
That's not TracerAnon, friend.
She is just as pretty if not more so than Soe~
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Hey slags, just so you know, if you pick hanzo or tobs on attack, I'm going to pick mei and put ice walls in front of your turrets and generally ps4 you off. You're spoilling my fun, I'm spoiling yours. Seems fair to me.

Also fuck you.
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>>147811573
>just dont be in range xddd
>just let her high energy cool off and waste more minutes
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>>147811592

>using shift

disgusting
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Who here actually likes the hook mechanic?
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>>147811621
What is this week's brawl?
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>>147811728
Support characters only, 2 character per team limit.
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why do people complain about zarya? even at full charge she only does 190 dps and cant even headshot

even someone like soldier does 170 dps with body shots and more if you headshot
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Are servers fucked right now? Getting a ton of random dc's
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>When your teammates take a character you already toke
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>>147811728
speed boosted symmetras
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Buff when?
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>>147811592
It's easier on your WASD hand.
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>>147811721
I like it, i just wish the damn thing worked right and would stop sending people behind and to the sides of me.
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>>147811592
Why the fuck would you ever use shift over rmb?
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>>147811785
Legendary that keeps the long hair when?
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god people are terrible at this game its mind-boggling
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>>147811859
For 10$.
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>>147811849
Most movement skills are asigned to shift, it's only natural.
>Not rebinding everything to something more usefull
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>>147811785
never
she is stacked in tournaments. literally zarya tier
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>Queue up with five friends for competetive
>Enemy team starts spamming memes in chat
>Decide to piss about and pick torb on attack
>Everyone on my team picks torb
>Six turrets on the cart
>Enemy team refuses to pick anything that could potentially counter swedish IKEA firing squad
>Steam roll them with no deaths on our side
>"MEMETEAM SUPREME! YOU ONLY WON BECAUSE SIX TORB IS OP AS FUCK!"
>We're on defence
>Roll out as jet set jamaica
>They are playing six toblerone now
>They never make it out of spawn
>They bitch and moan in chat again
>Friend pipes in with "You lost to six extremely bad torbjorn players in the first round on attack, then try to copy said bad idea and fail miserably. GG Uninstall."
I learned new things last night /owg/, I need new friends to play with and everyone plays competetive like quickmatch.
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>>147811785
she doesn't need buffs or she'd go from retard tier ot stalling to full retard tier ot stalling
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>>147811912
Fine with me.
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>>147811592
Surefour blinks with Right Click
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>>147811770
Try running the launcher as admin. It was a confirmed fix to some dc problem caused by the last major patch. It's something you should set your shortcut to default to just for the future in case Blizzard goofs things again. It might even be the current fix to your issue.
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OH BOY SURE I LOVE TAKING 120 DMG ROCKETS IN MY FACE WITH 0 DAMAGE FALLOFF

XDDD
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>>147811859
>>147811912
Twin tailed D.va when?
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>>147812028
Move five feet to the left, or get domed by rockets that go at the speed of doom rockets. Seriously how the fuck are you taking DIRECT HITS from long range rockets?
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There isn't a single situation or map in this game where Pharah + Mercy isn't an optimal pick.

These two are in every single game, rightfully so because they're completely fucking insane paired.

It makes for an extremely boring game because they also guarantee a Soldier pick in the enemy team because nobody else can deal with them. And even then, Soldier is a soft-counter.
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>>147812028
Theyre easy to see slow moving projectiles.
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Is it impossible to climb solo q? I've been trying and I can't get past 64
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>when a mercy flies towards you after the round ends in slow-motion and you watch as she sticks her ass in your face
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Butt nerf when?
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>>147812130
Widowmaker makes quick work of a pharah whos in the air and soldier is literally top tier against her, shit you probably complain about tracers rewind as well dont you?
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>>147809219
Bation could be a girl

>they should buff Genji
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Can we at least agree on this?

In need of nerfs:
>Zarya
Tankiness/survivability through the roof, on someone who's small enough to be a problem for the single remaining tankbuster's (Reaper) spread. Shields force you to let her, and/or whoever she wants, pound on you for two seconds, and a game-changing ultimate on top of it all.
>Lucio
Small and fast enough to be difficult to kill, which is a significant problem when he can focus on avoiding you and still heal his entire team. King of KOTH, and a staple of any team.
>Pharah
With Widowmaker's downfall, she dominates the skies and becomes nearly impossible to reliably hit, while raining tons of damage upon a team. Pair her with a Mercy to fly up with her and heal the occasional damage she may take, and you have all you need for your team right there.
>Torbjorn
Only in compositions that use multiple torbs. Their innate weakness of taking time to set up turrets is easily covered up by other torb turrets, making for a minefield of death on the right maps that have no flanking capability. Pair this with the ability to instantly save their own turrets and to set up unlimited armor packs on their camping spot, and it makes for an almost impenetrable defense.
>Hanzo
His E shouldn't be a "shoot at the floor and instantly kill a squishy" button. It should be something and legitimately fucks people up in a tight corridor, like what it was meant to be. Would need to be given a buff after nerfing it, however.

In need of buffs:
>D.va
Obvious inclusion
>McCree
Was hit just a bit too hard by his nerfs. Maybe a buff to his ult in some way besides speed
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>>147812130
>I have shit aim and cant shoot the giant slow moving blue thing.
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>>147812028
>these are the people you play with in comp queue
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>>147812187
No anon, you either go Premade or go down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA0bgE2P1oA
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>Just don't do damage to her :)
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>>147812187
>started at 63
>now at 61
>last match legitmiately nobody even tried to push the payload
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>>147812217
if you remove her helmet widowmaker looks really weird with blue skin and purple hair
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>play support
>hunted down by 3 offense players at all times

>their support
>protected
>can do his job
>doesnt get ambushed ever

im so sad
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>>147809038
shit Rein says HAMMER DOWN? I always thought he said HAMMER DUNK
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>>147812327
h-how do I find a group ;_;
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>>147811479
And thats why he rarely being used in competitive-scene?
Genji is good only as a finishing hero and by doing dirty work like harrasing campers and supports, but he is useless when your team cant push decently and do a lot of dps.
76 and mr.edgelord are the best carry heroes in the game, not animeboy.
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>>147812187
made it from 48 to 62 you can probably go higher solo

but it requires effort
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>>147812229
>it's completely fair for a 2 hero combo to shit on 18 characters because there is one who is good against them

never try to balance a game please
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>>147812336
>hog has 600 hp
>gets easily focused
>cyka has 400 hp + 200 shield
>woah she wins, better bend over and take it
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How the fuck do i not get paired up with complete shitters?

Got placed at 62 and now down to 55 due to playing with fucking mongoloids.
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>>147812521
>cant even count
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holy shit i didn't know overwatch had full japanese voice
also goddamn lucio's VA is fucking jonathan joestar
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>>147812336
>this hero capable of soloing everyone else in a few seconds is hard countered simply by not killing her, git gud :^)
sometimes I wonder if the people who say this are aware of how retarded they sound
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>queue
>instant backfilled
>prepare your defenses
>still assembling team
>i was the 4th

i didnt know i could leave a game that fast
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>>147812327
This is fucking great.
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>>147812642
>zarya
>good at soloing

Hahahahaha
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friendly reminder to not play support in quickplay

its pointless
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>>147812268
>Zarya
She's a tank with four hundred health and a shield that covers 100-200 damage, she does fuckall damage at 0 charge and is forced to constantly be in the thick of it to do ANYTHING. Her ult is literally a retard magnet.
>Lucio
Is fine as he is, the only complaint I could possibly throw at him is the fact that he can ride the well on Ilos
>Pharah
Shes big blue and slow in the air, how the fuck are you missing her? And if mercy is flying up to heal her KILL THE FUCKING MERCY.
>Torbjorn
Reinhardt is pretty much the perfect counter to him in every way due to the shit damage the turret does per shot, and if they do stack torbjorns two reinhardts and any medium to long range heroes instawin.
>Hanzo
His E literally fucks anything that isn't reinhardt in a tight corridor, as for squishies. Why the fuck are you running at him frontally?

In terms of buffs
I can agree with you on D.va needing something buffed, I just don't know what.
>McCree
Is actually fine now, he doesn't stomp everyone he meets instantly. Hell from what I'm hearing McCree players have actually forced to get more skilled than HURF DURF FAN THE HAMMER WIN GAEM
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>rated 71
>decide to start playing ranked on my level 25 smurf
>solo queue my placement matches
>go 8-2 and get rated 71
Neat.
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>>147812554
I hate having to face Zaryas as Roadhog, she cockblocks my hook all game.
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>>147812618
you dont
every single game is a crapshoot, decided by the rng matchmaker at the very beginning

no action you take will sway a games outcome for better or worse.
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>>147812629
pharah, mercy and soldier
thats 3 out of 21
21-3=18

if you think widow is a legit counter you don't realize her scoping nerf made it so she has to be much more static so she is either checking the air or checking the ground and if she's forced to be checking for pharah/mercy constantly then a flanker is going to rape her mercilessly
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>>147809485
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>>147812521
>Two heroes LITERALLY countered by ONE
3/10 You made me reply, git fucking gud
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>>147812726
i dont understand this big and blue meme, pharah hitbox is about the size of every offense hero sans tracer

why does every single pharah player pretend flying is in some way "bad" for pharah? every character dies to hitscan characters with good aim, the entire point of hitscan is being reliable

>>147812812
>pharah and mercy most picked heroes in competitive
>widowmaker nowhere to be seen
>soldier is another staple pick precisely because he's the only hero good vs pharah

such hard counters :^)
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>>147812642
she can only solo people if you feed her before
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>>147812327
>mfw it's actually true
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Playing against a Tracer is anti-fun
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Why are teams that I come across so fucking afraid to take the high ground on defense? No, you should not be waiting for them on the point or in front of the payload path the whole time.

Pretty much every asymmetrical map has great high ground spots for defenders yet everybody except Widowmakers insist on playing at ground level.
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>>147812780
Maybe you should read that other guys post again, the one where he lists more than one character you illiterate parkinsons faggot.
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>>147812769
>stands still
>gets headshot
>doesn't switch to pistol

your team mates would have come back, just admit you're a bad whiny little bitch.
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>>147811975
Her critbox is a mistake.
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Reminder:

Tanks are mostly too strong (sans D.Va) due to lack of good heroes against tanks.
Every offense hero is overtuned.
Every defense hero is undertuned.
Stacking is a flawed mechanic and a balance nightmare and Blizzard is stupid for sticking with it.
Overtime needs a serious rework.
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>>147812861
Right go into a map, any map. Now look up into the sky, see how big and fucking empty it is? ANYTHING IN THAT AREA IS HIGHLY VISIBLE AND A MASSIVE TARGET DIPSHIT.

>WAAAH WAAAH I CANT HIT PHARAH IN THE AIR EVEN THOUGH SHE FLIES LIKE A BALLOON IN THE AIR!

This is what you sound like. Fuck off.
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