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Biker waifu edition

Previous Normal Heist: >>147417401

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (think Frank found a new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator:
http://pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>(NEW) Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHEkCM3fTrc
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First for Quality content
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Second for quality content doesn't exist
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Third for legit looking lobbies.
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>>147753317
If that's the case, then how come your post exists, qt?
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Would you a Houston?
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Shitters
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>>147753481
Don't act dumb
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>>147753481
Don't act dumb
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>>147753581
>>147753620
;___;
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This is what I get for res'ing a bot from getting downed.

They just run in and fuck up stealth.
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>>147754504
>bots
>stealth
>bots going down in stealth heists
Explain?
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12th for the key asset on bank heist
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>>147754374
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>>147754504
stealth bots mod when?
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>>147754645
As you can see, Clover fell off the roof and got downed.

Then she ran in and got caught by the guard the host had highlighted.

You can't hear it in the webm but Clover fired first, then the Murky shot back and alerted the map. So it seems bots can shoot people in stealth with unsuppressed weapons without making noise.
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>>147755427
Bots aren't active in stealth at all fix your mods
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>>147755653
maybe a guy who was playing as clover fell and then he quit
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>>147755157
That'd be an interesting project.

Give bots perfect stealthing algorithms for each map, maybe even giving them specific objectives like achievements or doing specific things or doing as many things as they can. Then watch them loot a map without getting caught.

That or make a generic stealthing AI and sic them on any map.
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>>147755750
>stelfing with pubs
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r8 my new mask
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>>147756575
CRT monitor magnetburn/10
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>>147755984
>maybe even giving them specific objectives like achievements
Maybe I'll finally get my Entrapment achievement.
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>>147756815
>he doesn't have 100%
shitter
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>>147756575
>not keeping it kawaii

4/10
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someone link me best dw build
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>>147759424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCD8buf2hG0
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Guys, are you experiencing issues in the game atm?

People in the games I join seem to be stuck.
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>>147760648
>stuck
In shit tier? Yes, I'm running into people with that problem as well. Kinda annoying desu.
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>>147760295
money bundle for melee, bronco and suit
will try
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>>147760830
The game seems to be completely broken. Suddenly there are no enemies, others seem to be stuck. Hosting games doesn't help either.
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>>147761017
Make sure you play a big heist
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this general is still alive ? lmao
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>>147761227
With the skill tree revamp everyones got inspire aced
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GET THE FUCK UP
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>>147662336
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Mellon (voff_4)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>147764112
DON'T ACT DUMB!
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Snek heister when
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Are custom perk deck mods considered cheating? Saw some on last bullet and didnt want to dive in before I goofed.
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>>147767973
Everything is cheating including DLC
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WTF How did I get 9 cable ties
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>>147767973
If you have to ask...

>>147769464
Fully Loaded Aced rolls a chance for a ziptie on ammo pickup for the team. It's hilarious.
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sale shitter here

I've been lurking in silence for a while and have a few questions.

What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?

What is ECM rush?

Which dlc's should I buy?
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>>147769464
chance to get one whenever you pick up an ammo box
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>>147767973
If it gives you an advantage that a player normally wouldn't have, then yes, I would consider that cheating.
this game is already pretty easy, why make it even more of a cake walk?
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>>147772731
>What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?
Most stealthable Bain heists (not the DLC ones, at least for a saleshitter), Election Day, Murky Station
>What is ECM rush?
When you drop an ECM and rush into the location, killing guards and controlling hostages. Usually done in Jew Store for card farming
>Which dlc's should I buy?
For stealth? None, really. Probably Clover for the deck
In general? AK/CAR pack, BBQ pack, Hotline pack, Western pack, Sydney, Sokol, Dragan, Jiro, Gage packs
Don't fucking touch the Chivalry packs, the Weeaboo and Cowboy packs have better bows/crossbows and the melees are shit

Unless you like the masks, then go ahead and be a good goy rat
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>>147774280
>Sydney
Why? Shit deck, shit character, shit weapon.
>no mention of best gun DLC
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>>147767973
I saw one of those mods in action the other day.

The host doubled the Grinder regen rate but halved the duration and said it's a "balanced and fair change". Then he proceeded to have a punching fight with a DW blackdozer with a suit and his health basically never went down below 100%.
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WHY DO THE GUARDS NOT LEAVE THE MAP LIKE EVERY OTHER HEISTS' GUARDS?

AAAAAAHHHHHHH
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>turn on increased damage to 1-shot everything
>turn on no-recoil
>play DW all the time and carry shitters

this is what fun feels like
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>>147775315
>shit deck
you take that back
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ON YOUR FEET
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>>147778982
SHOT
THE
FOCK
UP
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>non-shit female character never ever
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GET UP
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>>147782135
SNAKE
HEISTER
WHEN
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>>147782135
The Swedish developer are cucked into believing that if they make any kind of female character that doesn't have the personality of an ultra-violent psycho, then they must be objectifying women with their cis-het white male privileged beliefs.
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>>147783534
don't bring your faggotry into a pdg. We don't care about your politics and just want to shoot cops.
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>>147784043
Spotted the butthurt Swede
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>>147775315
The deck is the current meme deck that everyone fawns over.
>Historical pack
If you really think $4 for one decent gun is a good deal, suit yourself. Nagant, sterling and broomhandle are a waste of money right now tho.
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>>147776238
>sydney - solarpletex
>guards - /pdg/ when he posts a webm
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>>147784043
>he thinks everything is alright in Sverige
https://www.rt.com/news/310757-sweden-malmo-blasts-crime/
http://fof.se/tidning/2015/5/artikel/darfor-okar-de-kriminella-gangens-makt
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.2119/journalist-went-to-swedish-no-go-zone-to-interview-stone-throwers-was-stoned.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/sweden-gay-march-through-mainly-muslim-area-stockholm-called-provocative-by-anti-racist-1513240
http://www.thelocal.se/20160506/blue-flight-swedish-cops-quitting-in-droves
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.676/sweden-to-reward-returning-isis-jihadists.html
http://www.thelocal.se/20150409/containers-set-to-become-homes-for-swedish-students
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-05/swedish-politician-says-its-worse-when-swedish-men-rape-women-compared-when-immigran
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/15/leftists-greens-block-bid-to-officially-recognise-isis-killing-as-genocide/
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.800/is-terrorist-were-swedish-television-s-expert-on-islamophobia.html
http://www.thelocal.se/20151115/swedish-city-is-largest-recruiting-ground-for-islamic-extremism
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>>147785146
Nagant is only useless because there is no Obrez modification that'd allow it to get the highest conceal among snipers, with the caveat it isn't silenced and has terrible stability.
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So it's been a fucking while since I played this. Last I played it ICTV was dog shit and LBV and BV were the best armors and you had to level dodge.

Did the game just buff everything or something? I got top tier in Fugitive revive, Enforcer additional armor (but not aced for ICTV), Mastermind Revive with Ace, and top tier in Ghost (but not aced since my concealment with LBV and BV is already enough to take advantage of the unaced version of the Ghost top tier dodge thing.

So whats the optimal build? Last I remember you had to SCROUNGE for points and appropriate them well. Now I reached top tier in SEVERAL trees.

Did this shit get easier? Also Crook or Rogue Deck? I assume Dodge is still vital and what you GENERALLY do for deathwish, right. ICTV still shit?
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64th for Sexy Dallas
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>>147789151
Literally pick anything you want the game is easymode now
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>buying and selling a shitton of Moist Nuggets for money after infamy
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post best heister

opinions welcome
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>mfw selling the biker safe for 0,80€ Why do people buy this shit most of the skins are worth less than the safe itself
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>>147791418
Jimmy.
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>>147791418
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>>147721424
Flechettes subtract 3 damage, and add 8 accuracy, and the capability to penetrate tan armor, as the description states.

What the description does not state is it modifies the range values. A shotgun by default has a minimum and maximum range of 10m and 30m, doing full damage from 0m to 10m, 0 damage past 30m, and linearly decreasing damage from 10m to 30m. What flechettes make this is 20m to 54m.

A Raven has a base damage of 59, with Flechettes decreasing it by 5%. Because of the decrease in damage being linear, a flechette does more damage on any target past 11 meters.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot(y%3D56,+y%3D59,+y%3D177%2F2-59x%2F20,+y%3D1512%2F17-56x%2F34)++x%3D0..54,+y%3D0..59
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>cheating shitters everywhere with every single skill aced
>except the two skills that are most overpowered right now
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>>147790730
Yeah, I sorta got that feeling. With the suit you can get 50% dodge but with BV you get like 140 armor and 35% dodge.

I looked over some things and it looks like you can tank damage with the ICTV now so it isnt complete ass

Did some deathwish heists and either the people are good or it was....really easy
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Daily Reminder
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>>147793461
Dodge is shit
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>>147774280
>Murky Station
Is actually harder than Shadow Raid.
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>>147795313
not really, you just have to go slow. It's quite difficult to get cornered in MS like you can in SR (those fucking stairs)
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>>147795313
Are you kidding me? Murky Station is only hard if you're going for Looting in the Dark.
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>>147756186

Stealthing with pubs is dumb as fuck.
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>page 10
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Does Overkill work on HE guns now?
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>>147791418
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>>147772731
>What are some good contracts if I want to solo stelf to git gud?
Basics are like
- Jew Store / UK Job
- H&T
- Nightclub
- Four Stores
- Art Gallery
- Diamond Store

Then the more challenging but not torturous ones are:
- FWB
- Shadow Raid
- Murky Station
- Election Day
- Big Oil (at least, to the point when the alarm is guaranteed to go off)
- Golden Grin Casino
So once you get the basics down, these would be good practice.

Then you have the "I hate myself and fun" stealth heists like:
- Framing Frame
- Dockyard
- Big Bank
- Train

I'm still unsure where to put Diamond. I think it's in-between the last two. Maybe GGC-tier of frustration for a medium payout.

>What is ECM rush?
When you put down ECMs to just skip the stealth. For example, 4 people with 8 upgraded ECMs would have about 4 minutes of ECM time. That lets you go in, do a bunch of objectives and loot, and get out.

OVK (and the Steam forums) got very butthurt when people reacted to Infamy 2.0's shitastic release with ECM rushing every Shadow Raid DW pub lobby ever so every new heist they released since Spring Break have had ECM counter-measures like objectives and timelocks not working when ECMs are running.

>Which dlc's should I buy?
The ones at a sale.

>>147795313
No it ain't.
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>>147799079
They don't trigger the skills but they do benefits from it once it's activated
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>>147799502
You mean OVK aced or basic?
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>>147799359
>Tfw you spend few hours trying to solo stealth Big Bank and then finally make it
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>>147795313
Is this some kind of ironic joke?
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>>147799359
Ive only been playing since the diamond heist was released, what used to be different about SR?
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>>147795447
>>147795575
>>147799359
>>147800301
Fuck off, contrarian hipsters.
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>>147800817
calm down
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>>147755157
>>147755984
I just updated Better Bots so I'll see what I can do.
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>>147800817
A two-objective stealth map will never be "more difficult" than Shadow Raid.
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>>147802171
Cool.

Sounds like a hard project though so don't kill yourself doing it if it turns out it sucks to do.
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>>147800817
Is there something you want to tell us, you little shitter?
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started playing again after I bought some DLC on the sales. Been using the MG44 which I got all the attachments I want for it and the sterling. I'm yet to run out of ammo ever, yet I remember ammo being hard to come by, did they buff that too or is it DLC being pay to win
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>>147803813
Ammo pickup values were reworked several times in the past year. Depends on when you left I guess.
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>>147800817
>Can completely control the entire basement with a pager to spare
>Dont have to though, as the entire basement can be navigated by vents
>The location of all mission equipment and drones is loudly presented by distinctive sound effects
>Guards all have simple and observable patrol patterns that don't change
>Plenty of trains to hide under
>Set amount of loot, 2 downstairs+12 upstairs+2 mission bags
But nah, you're right, Murky station is actually a real ball-buster and we're all just being hipsters.
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PUNKASS
COCKSUCKER
LITTLE BITCH
CLOAKER DOWN
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>Come back to PD2
>Join a Slaughterhouse DW
>Team looks destined for failure
>Fuck it, I'll try
>Carry the whole game, picking them up and getting them out of custody countless time
>We're about to escape
>Get kicked at the very end

Now I remember why I left, and why I need to host.
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>>147807198
>playing with pubs at all
>ever
>for any reason
Don't act dumb.
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>>147807503
The game loses any semblance of challenge when you have an organized team though.
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>>147807791
Maybe if your team is actually good.
Besides, it's still going to be far more enjoyable than pubshittery.
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>>147807198
This is the by far the most infuriating thing in this game
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>>147807198
Is this a meme? This never happened to me
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>Overwatch has ranked matchmaking (despite being shit)
>TF2 is getting ranked matchmaking even for pubs
When is Payday 2 getting ranked matchmaking?
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>>147800007
Stelfing DW BB/GG is pretty much
>pain
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>>147809884
It's gonna be a DLC
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>>147802197
SR is basically a stealthing tutorial, it's that easy. Grabbing the bags is risk-free, you'll just have to spend a lot of time hoisting them to the pickup spots.
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>>147799359
GGC is easier than BB? I'm usually stelfing with a friend, and we almost managed to get BB right, but GGC seems like literal hell, considering how much shit you have go through.
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>>147807198
>>147808721
>playing on russian hosts
slav-scum BTFO
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>>147810081
BB first part of the map is really easy. Genocide everyone on the lobby upper floor, should only take two pagers, maybe 3 if another guard comes down the elevator while you wait for the timelock. If Hillary calls in additional guards you can kill them when they wander upstairs, they have no pagers. After that it's just sneking into the vault and get four money bags out the garage exit to the van.
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>>147810090
Rude.
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>>147809910
What's the general consensus on Hoxton's Revenge?

I stealthed that shit for the achievement and I ain't doing that again. Too many cases where the location of the FBI boss/laptop (and one possible telephone pole spot) can almost guarantee you'll waste a bunch of pagers.
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>>147810337
I don't think I've ever played PD2 on a russian host that wasn't human garbage. There's a reason for them being the european BRs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qbp2F-wN5M
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>>147810331
>Genocide everyone on the lobby upper floor, should only take two pagers
This is very stelf.
We didn't even consider it, so I had to get to the manager's office (from the first floor) twice without killing anyone. Fug.
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>>147810448
It's not too bad, really, sneking the guards is pretty safe with lots of hiding spots, but the RNG objectives in the middle of the chain can be sort of hairy sometimes. Once you've got the safe room door you're home free, guards won't react to the open door so just bag Hector and put him on the chair in the little rightwing niche of the saferoom.
>>147810529
You'll need the poisoned cake in the canteen area to take out another guard. But I think that and the unlocked cargo bay door are the only required favors. An extra set of body bags or spy cams in the vault hall area have their use though.
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>>147810882
>bothering with canteen
If you're doing Entrapment, sure.

Otherwise I put my favours into elevator and a body bag case. Maybe a keycard too if I decide to bring trip mines.
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>>147792375
Nice, but nobody uses the stock Raven, calculate it with buckshot vs flechette
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>>147810448
>I stealthed that shit for the achievement and I ain't doing that again.
This. It only took me two goes on DW, but its fair to say I got lucky with spawns and its not the sort of heist I want to go back to, even if I am a stealthwhore.
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>>147812085
>removing a guard and saving a pager
well worth it, famalam
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>>147772731
Easiest heist to stealth is jewelry store. Almost no guards, the only problem that can occur is that there can spawn a hot dog stand.
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>>147772731
>>147814374
Yeah, Jew Store is a good walkthrough on stelf concepts. Only thing you need to know as a newbie is the monitoring guard keeping cameras active. After you've gotten comfortable doing that you try Shadow Raid OVK.
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>>147812443
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Bit over 14m, damage dropoff is fast.
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What are the best heists for leveling up, infamous money, and payday card grinding? Also, how the hell do you loot all of shadow raid?
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>>147814374
Easiest heist to stealth is Flash Drive.

>>147816697
>What are the best heists for leveling up
Rats Pro Day 1. 7 bags of meth. No contest. PrOVK and Pro DW are both acceptable. If you don't want to spend 5 minutes getting an extra 1-2 mil exp and getting the $20+ mil payout at the end, you can just restart Day 1 once you get the exp.

Lesser alternatives would be like: HB, GGC DW, FWB DW, FS PrOVK/Pro DW (if you get all loot), Boiling Point OVK/DW, HM PrOVK/Pro DW, Big Bank DW. Apparently Big Oil PrOVK too but I am skeptical.

Technically Goat Sim is a good source of exp IF YOU SUCCEED but fuck Goat Sim. Fuck it hard. Probably one of the worst things to be introduced to the game.

Pro Jobs = +20% exp.

>infamous money
That's just money since it's not like payouts distribute money differently.

Aftershock DW is objectively the best being a $24 mil payout for a 13 minute heist. Yes, 13 minutes you baby. It's basically a stupidly short Transport that actually pays well.

Then there are others like OVERDRILL, Rats PrOVK/Pro DW, Mallcrasher DW ATMs, Boiling Point DW, HB (Pro) OVK/DW.

Followed by Slaughterhouse DW, FWB DW, Undercover DW, Counterfeit DW, HM PrOVK/Pro DW, Biker DW, and

>and payday card grinding?
Normal Jew Stores. I used to get ~50 Jew Stores an hour when I was grinding the RNG for a specific achievement mask. Then I got 3 of the same mask in the next 10 cards.

If you're not farming weapon mods, as long as you have 2 spares of a particular mod, that mod will never drop again until you have less than 2 spares available. So eventually if you play/grind enough, you will stop getting weapon mods altogether and have a better chance at getting other card types though at that point, you're probably dumping your money into offshore paydays. Also don't buy guns you're not using and the game won't roll mods for them.

>Also, how the hell do you loot all of shadow raid?
You git gud.
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>>147816697
>how the hell do you loot all of shadow raid?
You channel your inner autist.
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>>147819380
>50 minutes
>for a piss poor xp and money
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>>147810081
GGC is "masturbate in the back room for 15 minutes at 10fps while you wait for the 4 guards to walk into their deaths, then botch stealth because a restless pub decided to have a dick-swinging contest with the locker room guard".

Big Bank is actually slightly more complicated even if you're not doing Entrapment.
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what are the best weapons?
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>>147821376
The FAL
that's it
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de-paws-it
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>>147823014
Cash in paw-ket
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>>147823014
>>147823917
Animal heisters when?
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>>147824234
Bonnie's in the game already.
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>>147824234
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Do left click macros not work? I'm trying to set one up on my g502 using the software but all I get is one measly shot.
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>>147824363
>Bubsy heister
The one that could surpass Sydney in sheer measure of how annoying they can be, every line is a pun.
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>>147821376
the M308 ntr the dlc DMR rifles, that's for sure.
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>>147825573
It means you've just gotta grind and bear it
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>>147825573
You've got to be kitten me.
That's inpawsible
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The difference between Overkill and Death Wish is like night and day. I'm trying to transfer, do you guys have any tips or guidelines to follow in order not to suck on Death Wish? Things like builds, does everyone run Inspire on it?
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>>147774280
>>147799359
>>147815191
Oh right! Many thanks. I've been doing all the basic ones and I think I'm ready for at least Shadow raid and murky station.

I tried to do election day and framing frame with some friends and dedicated myself exclusivly to keep watch of the guards and it was a fucking mess. Specially framing frame on the last day. It's a pain in the ass, takes too damn long, and RNG fucks you in the ass everytime.

>>147821376
>>147825629
I dunno mang. The M308 has been good to me. I can one shot most units and I rarely run out of ammo. The reinfield shottie is also fun.
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>>147827367
Day 3 of Framing Frame just requires you to actually keep track of the guards and wait for the extra guard to leave and not acting dumb in front of the Titan cams.

Sensor trip mines and spycams are king.
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>>147827210
Never ever run around out in the open: Cover, cover and cover. Use a 80+ weapon and land your headshots.
>>147827367
Stelfing is pretty much a solo thing, if not everyone knowing the heist by heart. Having 3 people run around on the map means x3 the chance of fucking up or getting spotted.
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>>147824363
>hedgehog mask
it's the little things
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>>147827613
3 extra people is x4 since it's +300%.
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>>147827719
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sock mask when
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>>147830280
When the SpongeBob character pack is released
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>>147830943
>"Cyclops" helmet mask
one can dream
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>Over 300 million spending cash in PD2.
>Nothing to spend it on.
good game
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>>147832565
>inb4 people would prefer the gta:o jewing over the payday 2 discounted weapon prices
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>one of my work colleagues bought pd2 during the sale
>another colleague suddenly blurts out that he's been playing for "ages" (read: 40~ hours)
>starts bragging that he and a friend played a heist on very hard once

I didn't want to tell him that Very Hard is what I solo on, and that it makes me a shitter to do so
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What's the best deck with frenzy berzerker ICTV
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>>147827719
He didn't say 3 extra. He said 3.
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>>147833664
Put your trip back on trashly.
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>>147834210
Ínfiltrator and Anarchist
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>>147827210
1) Cover
2) Bring something useful like doc bags, ammo, or Inspire.
3) Don't use perk decks because you like them. Use one that works well when you have 10% health. This is entirely on your playstyle.
4) Break 80 or go home. M308-chan will always love you.

That really is about it. The big difference between DW and Overkill is basically knowing the map well enough to be able to get from point A to point B without getting killed, and being able to know where all the cover/lines of fire are around you at all times, ie map familiarity.

And start on the indoor maps like FWB, not a horrible killbox like Goat or Lab Rats
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>>147834764
>Use one that works well when you have 10% health. This is entirely on your playstyle.
What?
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>>147835912
I mean if you can get Hitman to do the job under those circumstances perfectly well, then use it. Even if you don't like it much.
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dlc dlc when
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>>147834651
Any non-dlc ones?
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>>147840808
hm... Hitman I guess?
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>>147840904
What about maniac or armorer
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>>147840965
If I remember right, Hitman regenerates your armor completely after 5 sec no matter what happens.
so if you get health damage within 5 sec with frenzy and ICTV then you are really doing something wrong
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what do yous thinks are the best deck? so far ive maxed crew chief, but im looking at gambler
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>>147843087
Muscle, Rogue, Infiltrator, Grinder, Maniac, Anarchist
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>>147843087
Muscle, Infiltrator and Maniac are all top tier decks if you're gonna be using armour.
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>Looking for ways to one-tap deposit boxes without Berserker in my stelf build in Long Guide
>Deposit boxes open after taking 37.5 damage by a saw. The efficiency boost of Portable Saw aced is a plain multiplier of 1.4 to the saw damage regarding objects that can be sawed open; with one damage-increasing mod the saw damage becomes 26 * 1.05 * 1.4 = 38.22, which is sufficient to open boxes with one hit.

Can confirm. This baby with Fast Motor and Durable Blade can one-shot deposit boxes no problem. Managed to clean out 120 boxes + ATMs with an unupgraded ammo bag. You can probably do the same with Silent Motor+Sharp Blade but you wouldn't be able to go through almost 30 boxes a blade. Might be useful for stealthing Train instead I guess loud Train is better. Totally worth the 4 points in Portable Saw Aced instead of the +2% boost I get from Transporter Aced.

I guess the days of needing Berserker for one-tapping boxes is over now.
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>>147834086
>having a job
lmao
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>>147843087
>gambler
Its decent, but prepare to get kicked a lot. Most people just assume you're hogging pickups because you're an asshole and they never notice the regen.
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>>147848526
>Pubs
Fucking retard
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>>147846874
> being a NEET
kys
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>being on page 10
git gud
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>>147834086
>soloing vh
I assume loud. And that you're playing outside meta just to relax.
I'll sometimes load up a vh, bring some retarded akimbo build and just fuck around lazily. It's kinda cosy.
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>stelf FWB on DW
>only got an achievement for DW

>stelf the Docks on Overkill
>the achievement for stealth requires DW
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147853236
>taking longer than 13:37 to stelf FWB DW
shitter
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>>147853341
I don't even know how to get any of the timed achievements yet.

Pls no bully.
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>>147853505
run, don't walk
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>>147854498
But, like, what if you have to wait for guards? I assume there's some luck involved.
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What is the point of this, besides being the best looking suppressor?
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>>147855745
Also, wtf is this
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>>147855938
Gotta get that concealment boi.
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>>147855938
>85
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>>147855745
Muh damage: the suppressor.
Pretty sure it was more useful before the unbalance.

>>147855938
Sweet Memever.
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People here absolutely hate public lobbies, but I haven't encountered any particularly bad ones. Is it because I'm an NZfag and all of the good players in NZ/Australia play pubs?
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I decided to watch the web series. Jesus it's bad
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>>147857309
>sexualizing Gage
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>>147857309
>sniper lady that doesn't know how to adjust her own scope

what's wrong anon
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>>147856518
It's just RNG. But tbqhwu most pubs are fine (game sense/skills aside). Pubbing OVK with some pre-infams can be quite comfy and fun sometimes, most even appreciate a couple of pointers delivered in a non-'tistic manner.
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>>147862657
>the little pickled Chains
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>finally get around to redoing my stealth build
>40 points left over
>literally nothing left that I'll actually use
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>>147857309
I tried to watch it but whenever Gage shows up I just see the brother from Ray Donovan who's always whining that a priest diddled him.
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>>147863816
Sensor Mines. That's where I put most of my extra points.

Maybe JOAT Aced if you can afford it.
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>>147863816
get Jack of All Trades.
you can carry bodybags and ECM at the same time
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>>147863984
Aren't sensor mines default now?
>>147864346
Just grabbed that and aced cleaner for the extra body bag case. Still have a lot of points left over, though. There just isn't much you need for stealth now.
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>>147864485
Yes, but you only get 3.

Fully upgraded, you get 14.
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Hey, did they ever fix the bug where you have to re-crouch after bagging something? If you didn't, the NPCs would think you were standing or something.
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>>147865040
Nope.
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>>147863816
>>147863984
>>147864346
>>147864485
I was always partial to this build
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mhjlpR:eKlQr:tCefHKlR:gABCDEFJklPr:ibcdea:::
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ONE
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>>147841196
That 5-second thing is pretty dubious. I think your armor has to completely break before the timer starts running.
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cool guy mask when
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>>147845761
This has been known for years, nerd.
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>>147865140
Well now I know why I got caught once doing exactly what the webm depicts. Fucking Underskill.
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Why do the biker skins suck ass so much?
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>>147868287
Is it the skulls and flames or something else?

I think at this point, as long as they look consistent and not completely retarded, they can probably be considered "decent" or at least "okay".

Now the COP skins on the other hand...
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Get the fuck up
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So this would be a weeb version of the Alesso heist?

Instead of Alesso we get idol music or something
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>>147871957
We get Simon Viklund covers of the Love Live and K-ON! themes.
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>>147872084
>Simon Viklund covers of the Love Live and K-ON! themes
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>>147872084
I need this now
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>>147872275
And our new heister is a nerdy asian cosplayer who uses gratuitous Japanese terms despite being Vietnamese. She comes with a neko-themed mask and a pair of nerd glasses you can unlock.
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>>147872605
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>>147765091
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Am The One Who Knocks ('halloween_1)
- Vlad Is Mad! (vlad_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>147874478
Did I mention her hair is pink? Because it is. Also she wears a Hello Kitty backpack.
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>>147874585
also neon genesis tactical suit
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I was fucking around with weapons and skills and for some reason the Rattlesnake sniper with Silent Killling Basic, despite having ~10 damage higher than a Joceline/Mosconi with slug rounds, can't one-hit a shields through the shield. Do slug shotguns and snipers have different damage falloff through shields or is something bugged?

inb4
>using the Rattlesnake
I was having fun trying out non-meta weapons/builds
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>>147875489
Post build and weapons first.
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>>147875063
Shit, unless she's loli.
>Overkill making females without tattoos or annoying voice
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You'd think after a few hundred SR runs, you would know all possible spawns in the map.

3 years of Shadow Raiding, and I never saw anything that wasn't coke or weapons ever spawn here. Crazy.
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Guys, is there any lmg that is currently viable?
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>>147877131
all of them

99% if not all of the weapons are viable
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>>147878031
what about dw? any recommedended lmg?
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>>147878189
>what about dw?

>>147878031
>any recommedended lmg?

I prefer the buzzsaw due to the fire rate and ammo
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The biker shotgun would be the best if it wasn't for the lame ammo cap
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Anybody up for a few hours of Cook Off?

The people I played with so far always got iffy after a mere 45 minutes.
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>>147879112
>hours
"hour", sure, maybe, if I feel like it.
"hours", I can't tell if you're serious or exaggerating.
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>>147879112
>tfw noone wants to deathwish Christmas for max presents

presents > meth
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>>147879384
>deathwish Christmas for max presents
I can't tell which heist it is you're talking about.
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>>147879112
>hours
You may as well go full turret build and check out, eat, text, watch some videos. Doing the same things/camping the same vantage point doesn't get tedious at all? I always go 7 bags for Rats and that feels plenty long, at like 45, 50 min.
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>>147879807
45 min should be the total length when you leave with the cash on Day 3. That's way too long for just Day 1.
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>>147879112
>actually wanting to play Cook Off for several hours
stupid dumb frogposter
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>>147876213
Joceline with slugs and no shotgun skills: 175.8 damage
Rattlesnake with suppressor and Silent Killer Basic: 187.2 damage

For some reason while the Joceline was easily one hitting shields, the Rattlesnake took two shots.

That was the initial thing I noticed that made me post this
>>147875489


Looking into the matter I tried another heist using the Lever-action Rifle with a suppressor and SK basic which got to 188.4 and it did one-hit shields.

After that I tried using the Lebensauger with SK Basic because it had the exact same 187.2 damage as the Rattlesnake, I shit you not every other shield I killed took either one or two shots. At first I thought it was a range thing but come close range kills took two while some far-end-of-Firestarter kill took one.

I just...I just don't even know.
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>>147879232
I want to play the map for 2 hours at least once.

>>147879907
I deleted my Payday 2 folder after microtransactions

>>147879807
I enjoy holding the line

>>147879384
Would be up for santa's workshop dw .
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>>147879890
Aggravated by the fact that me nor my friends have that meth mod that tells you what exactly to put in. So we'll hear it, and someone will wait for Bain to repeat. Or everyone will be distracted by the dozers outside, having tuned Bain out. ect. ect.
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>>147880075
Was hoping for a full pd2skills link. There could be other things that you think are irrelevant that might affect the damage. That and it makes it easier for others like me to try out the exact same weapon and skill builds instead of playing 20 questions over 4chan.
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poll time!
http://www.strawpoll.me/10702226
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>>147881626
do your duty and vote
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now with TWO polls!
that's right, two polls

http://www.strawpoll.me/10702266
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feel free to discuss the poll results as well
just please don't leave me here alone
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Why aren't you using this build, anon?
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>>147880474
I played cookoff for 2.5 hours once and got like 800 kills
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>>147883228
You have a nice pistol skin.
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>>147886425
Thanks, unlocker :^)
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>>147882359
who voted for maniac
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GET BACK INTO THE FIGHT
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>>147880474
I wouldn't mind doing an organised run of a couple hours or so.

Last one I did was on OVK so it was a miserable payout of $50 mil despite being 36 bags.
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>>147889536
Forgot my pic. Steam says Mar. 2015 so it's been a while.
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Are infamy masks considered the sign of a complete shitter?
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>>147890704
I doubt most people would recognize what mask comes from where, really.
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>>147890704
possibly, but comparing them to difficulty/meme masks is like comparing a nametag to one of those sandwich board signs that people are forced to wear as punishment, in which both signs read "do not play with me"
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>>147889726
>easykill
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>>147890704
I'm usually more wary of people wearing the Deathwish difficulty mask. More often than not, they're not legit, by a very large margin.
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