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>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/RRENUArS
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf tf2outpost.com backpack.tf bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf scrapbank.me
Betting: saloon.tf
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W
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second for remove both pyro and heavy
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survey

do you think scout should get another mobility item
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xth for meme
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if valve were to borrow a weapon idea from overwatch, what would you like to see?
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>>147722365
It has items to run fast, jump more and jump higher.
Heavy needs a rework, especially in the melee and primary department.
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>>147722365
What could he get? He's already got everything he needs.
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All classes should be removed from the game except Pyro and Soldier.
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Post your pootis-man
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>>147722527
>>147722478

items to run FASTER jump EVEN MORE and jump THE HIGHEST
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>>147722617
Ready to kill pyro
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Team Pyro's looking forward to destroying shitty hoovies
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>>147722617
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>>147722680
>run FASTER than a full boost bfb
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>>147722198
Kinda wish that the rank names and icons were a bit more streamlined like they are in csgo, but I guess these are alright.
When does "fresh meat" becomes the new banter insult?
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>>147722617
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>>147722617
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60 MINUTES
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What's going to drop first, MYM or Evolve F2P?
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>>147722680
You sound just like a pyro main who complains about the powerjack and degreaser being underpowered.
We shouldn't bring in more op shit just because you want your main to be the most powerful class.
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>>147723353
:(
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>>147723269
isn't evolve f2p tomorrow?
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>>147723476
https://evolvegame.com/
About 28 minutes until the beta
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>>147723256
are we sure about this timing
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>>147722198
Anyone know around what time the update is gonna drop? I wanna be here right when it hits and be somewhat productive as well
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>>147723714
Rumor is it's gonna be at noon, but who knows for sure?
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>>147723714
3hours, 23 minutes
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>>147723714
24 hours after the post yesterday, probably.
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>>147723707
Yes, the post was 23 hours ago.
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>>147723829
>>147723790
>>147723748
I guess I'll cook or something on the meantime, thanks guys
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>>147723957
I'll do the same
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>>147724074
>>147723957
What's /tf2g/ cooking?
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Man I sure love me some Kotaku.
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>>147722959
i thought the same
would preffer if the lowest 5 ranks had a similar name instead of all this... i know its "mercenary themed" but having to remember the name of 18 ranks... just make something like CSGO where the lower 5 and middle 4 are the same (silver and nova) and very easy to distinguish, by number (nova 1, nova2, nova 3)
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>>147723748
well its noon on my watch
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>>147724518
Hernandez/10
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>>147724583
I must have been wrong, then. Sorry.
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>>147722617
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Wrong!

*kills you*
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>>147722617
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>>147724645
Isn't it supposed to be on noon Pacific daylight time? If that's the case, it'll be in 3 hours
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>>147724391
Some lentils, along with a few fried onions and hard boiled eggs. Shit's cash.
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>>147724391
Some carbonara pasta with chicken.
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>>147724803
You're autistic, like the rest of team heavy
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>>147722198
where did you get this picture
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so tf2g, are you
>team mouthbreather
or
>team furry
?
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>>147724391
I was thinking some chili with soy sprouts, shits super tasty with the right spices
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>>147724803
>all that money
>all those hamburgers
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>>147722617
idk if i want to keep the mohawk though..any suggestions?
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>>147725040
Team Furry. Even got a lewd Objector.
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>>147724391
White rice, chicken breast and vegetables.
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>>147724985
http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/faq/
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i seriously dont know why would anyone vote for pyro
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>>147725040
Rather team furry than team fat edgelord
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>>147725109
fuck me i forgot the image
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They fucking remade Crussader's Crossbow.
A sniper rifle that heals teammates and damages enemies, are you fucking serious?
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>>147725226
What about Heavy is edgy?
You can't just slap buzzwords on everything you don't like, though I wouldn't expect a Pyro main to be any less retarded.
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>>147725187
The best shit.
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>>147724962
Except that I'm on team Pyro.
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>>147725314
Forgot the image.
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>>147725372
Yeah, team Pyro!

>>147725472
Yeah, Crossbow in OW!
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>>147725304
Looks good, keep it.
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>>147725040
team pot xd
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How many minutes remain???
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>>147725340
Yet you're okay with labeling every single pyro main as a furfag or retarded?
That's some double standard shit right there.
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-4 minutes remain
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is TF2 similiar to Overwatch? what are some similar games worth playing?
is TF1 any good?
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>>147725734
24 minutes
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>>147725829
Overwatch is a shitty unbalanced rape of TF2

Play only TF2, all other videogames save for some dorfs suck
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>>147722617
My current theme is hipster, I want to switch to winter, but I don't know which heavy beard will look very good, any suggestions?
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r8/h8 my reptilian spy

Also, how come all spy coats nowadays make his legs look fucking tiny? its ridiculous
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>>147725964
2 more months, goy.
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>>147725829
yeah, tf2 is more dm focused than ow, tfc is okay but it's ded and aged and those who still play will destroy you
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>>147725472
woah
they get dwarf guy from WoW
xbow from TF2
ults from MOBAs
and some generic sci-fi theme from their ass
really most of the characters look like taken from a cancelled sci-fi moba or something
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>>147725734
20 MINUTES REMAINING
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>>147726027
Is the graylien painted Mann Mint?
Wouldn't the darker greens be better?
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WHAT IF ITS NOT HEAVY VS PYRO
AND ITS JUST
ALL CLASSES
PREPARING FOR WAR
ITS ALL CLASSES VS EACHOTHER
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2 hours, 20 minutes

but maybe there will be delays
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>>147726027
<leg day meme>
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reminder that pyro will win because of shitters
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>>147726092
Seriously they are just recycling their old games and slapping some stolen valve goodies on top
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>>147726160
What if it was just a pun?
Heavy holding meat and pyro having matches and not a real Pyro vs Heavy war?
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>>147722617
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>>147726239
Nah, so far Team Heavy is winning by a landslide.
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>>147726151
they look like shit, my dude
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>>147722617
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>>147726383
Why is this allowed?
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>tfw no heavy/pyro cosmetics since i never play them
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>>147726239
its shitters vs shitters
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>>147726092
Overwatch is literally made from the scraps of some old MMO they were working on.
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>>147726409
Oh God, leave the Mann's Mint...
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>>147722365
A shotgun that replaces double jumps with dashes (like Shadow Warrior?) would be soo cool.
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>>147726448
I don't like the hat, even if it is unusual you should change it to something better and non-unusual.
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Remember to votekick allied friendly Heavies and to allow allied friendly Pyros to do their thing.
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>>147726548
Two of the most laughed at mains are now shitposting on reddit threads.
Whoever wins, we lose.
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>>147726645
we overwatch now
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>>147726701
If they can have a crusader crossbow we can have wavedashes
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>>147726654
>hating on the pug
ISHYGDDT
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http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/war
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>>147726654
I like the hat. I use my KGB a lot and I think the hat is fitting. Also it was my first unusual other than a Nuts & Bolts Counterfeit Billycock but who even cares about that literal garbage and has sentimental value.
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mmph!
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Where are the patch notes?
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>>147726839
fcuk
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>>147726839
fucking
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>>147722198
>yfw you calibrate to below rank 15
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>>147726654
>>147726448
Yeah, Pugilist's Protector is low tier not without a reason, it just looks bad.
I like your killstreak weapons but the unusual destroys your loadout.
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>>147726839
You jokester
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>have to give valve your phone number to play comp
fucking dropped
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>>147726965
>have
you don't.
Either that or you buy a pass for 10 bucks.
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About fucking time, Robin.
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>>147726748
>blizzfags already acting like TF2 is somehow stealing competitive from Overwatch

Imagine the tears if they see a mechanic from their game in TF2. despite them stealing most of theirs from tf2
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>>147726965
>being this paranoid

what are they gonna do, call you and sell you games?
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>>147726839
You cocktease.
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You can buy a $10 pass anon to play without giving your phone number.
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>>147727013
>give them my phone number or pay to play
dropped even harder

how could valve fuck up this hard?
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>>147726701
Totally forgot about Tracer
Can she dodge to the sides, or just in front?
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>>147723353
they are underpowered
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>>147727042
And right now as we are speaking they are programming a fucking Crussader's Crossbow clone into their game.
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>>147727109
Nobody cares about your multiboxing problems, Mordx
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>>147726748
>wavedashes
I haven't heard someone call a blink a "wavedash" in years.

Or "Flash"
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>>147727109
It's to stop script kiddies from flooding it with pure ease. I'd rather a paywall with less and less gigglecube children helping boost ranks of idiots who pay them keys.
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>>147727109
Would you rather have cheaters in every match?
>>147727134
Only if you turn your mouse, she also can't dodge vertically.
>>147727190
Both are direct upgrades.
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>>147727196
Not like they'll care. Their dreamworks shooter is a fucking messiah that can do no wrong, to them.
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>>147727015
you need to stop this shit
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>>147727134
Any horizontal direction you can control so I guess in the usual 8 directions relative to your current orientation. You can argue 360 if you move the mouse and then blink but that's probably not what you were asking.

Sadly she can't move vertically with the blinks which defeats the entire point so she can't do shit about enemies on higher ground except run away.
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>>147725040
my psychiatrist tells me im neither but if furry = pyro then that one

all heavy mains have autism
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>>147725040
yiff
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>>147725040
I breath through my mouth when I do excercise, so I guess team mouth breather
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WHY IS NOTHING HAPPENING
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this update fucking sucks
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>>147727720

It will, brother. Have patience.
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>>147727308
as it stands the degreaser is a direct downgrade and while the powerjack is better than stock that doesn't make it 'good' in its current state.
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Go team retard!
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I came here because I dont know what the fuck is going on
But it seems you guys dont either

Anyone go to a nice place to eat recently?
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>>147727821
Better than stock isn't underpowered, it's technically overpowered because there should be no direct upgrades.
On pubs, yes, it's a downgrade, but when you are fighting against an enemy with a brain then Degreaser is much better,
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>>147727849
Which one?
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>>147727863
I like sushi so I went to a place named Wok to go. Pretty good sushi.

Funny how I saw the exact same restaurant in St. Petersburg russia, since I literally haven't seen it anywhere other than beanerland and there
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i started to have 300 ping out of nowhere JUST BEFORE update is about to come
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My f5 key broke.
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my index finger broke
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/r/tf2 new constantly refreshing
this thread constantly refreshing
tf2 blog and the update page, constant refreshing
I want the update, I want it now
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>>147728027
I have never tried sushi actually.
I am a fan of seafood though if that helps enjoy it I dont know.
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when does this update come out

when does the rust update come out
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IT'S UP CLICK DAY 2
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>>147728250
wait until 12 pm CST I guess, which is 20 minutes from now.

Distract yourself, knit something, go for a short walk, take a power nap, clean your room, plan your day, order food, whatever man
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UPDATE ALREADY YOU LAZY FUCKERS
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>>147728417
im just gonna play with my guns then
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>>147722617
It aint no unusual, but it's something.
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WHEN WILL IT HAPPEN IT HAS BEEN NINE MINUTES SINCE THE LAST TIME IT WOULD HAVE MADE SENSE TO RELEASE IT, WHEN WILL IT HAPPEN I AM ANXIOUS I AM IMPATIENT I AM SCREAMING I NEED IT NOW
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>>147728417
BUT YESTERDAY'S UPDATE WAS 24 HOURS AND 10 MINUTES AGO
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>>147728417
Not him but it's 2:40 am friday here
On one hand I got a 0600-1500 nurse shift but on the other vidya game.
Fuck me gonna need another bowl of cornflakes to deal
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>>147728412
>>147728437
That's wrong
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>>147728498
What guns do you have? Show pics
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XD
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HURRY PREDICT NEW WEAPONS NOW
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>>147728612
I know, I was only capslocking my anguish
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17 minutes
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>>147728357
If you like rice as well you're not gonna be disappointed at sushi, for the most part anyways, some sushis aren't that tasty

>>147728498
trueAmerican/10

>>147728550
>>147728575
Blog Posts and Actual updates ocurr at different times though. Usually big updates have been released at 12 pm CST, from the Polycount update way back in 2010, to the gun mettle and tough break ones
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Why does B4nny have 11 pages of Soda Poppers in his inventory?
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>>147728683
A FLAMETHROWER THAT INSTEAD EJECTS MUSTARD GAS, CALL IT THE TEN TON TERROR OF TEL AVIV
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why does the valve version of ctf_turbine lack routes and flanks the pro version had ? it would be so much better with those
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>>147728683
no new weapons but i mean every shit weapon is gonna get rebalanced so it's like having new weapons if old weapons get reworked
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>>147728680
:s
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>>147728680
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>valve copy pastes a map to their official map pool that they didn't work on
>community goes nuts and praises them

what the fuck man

how fucking delusional are you retards
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>>147728767
It's autism, you'd understand.
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>>147728767
Collectors, maybe?
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>>147728872
i agree, two erasers would work better to remove that giant mistake mark
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>>147728876
better community content by players who may know better than waiting for questionable official content
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>>147728872
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>>147728825
Turbine turns to shit with a single sniper on any version.
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>>147728767
Why not?
I had a collection of 320 vintage targes once upon a time. I had the idea that if I collected enough I would become the targe god who decided what peasants could own such a magnicent item.
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>>147728876
idk but metalworks is neato
i wish logjam was still in development so it had a chance of being featured
shame the RC versions fucking suck compared to beta 18 or b20
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>>147728250
you forgot Twitter, mate
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>>147729026
keep going
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>>147728767
i think it was a donation
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>mfw tf2g finds my twitter
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TEN MINUTES, TEN MINUTES OR I DELETE ALL MY FUCKING STEAM ITEMS OR DONATE THEM TO A FURRY TOLERANCE FOUNDATION I DON'T CARE I WANT THE FUCKING UPDATE RIGHT FUCK DAMN FUCKING NOW WHERE IS IT WHERE IS IT VOLVO I AM SPERGING OUT GIVE ME NEW SHIT TO PLAY WITH
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>>147729026
Two erasers rubbing on each others would only erase each other, leaving the third marker to destroy pyro
We need more
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i am cum
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>>147729267
you can give to me
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reminder that adding training to teach the 6s classes would be the greatest thing for valve to put with matchmaking, besides class limits
>rocket jump+sticky jump tutorial
>scout "capture the point" tutorial
>medic heal order and krit heals tutorial
>give an achievement or a medal for finishing each tutorial
i doubt anyone in the TF Team has played more than 5 matches of 6v6
otherwise they would know why class limits is a good idea
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We White Energy boys
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>>147729412
hey viva

u suck
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recommend me some vocaloids songs to listen while waiting for the update
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>>147729412

>pyro
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>>147729463
ME! ME! ME!
Not really vocaloid tho
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>>147729463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_sAipsAhPA

this is a favorite of mine
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>>147729412
it'll look like ebic trash
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http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/uwaifuisshit
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>>147729402
Class limits to enforce the current meta is retarded.

It's supposed to be the other way around. The balance enforces/dictates whatever the meta is.

TF2 comp players are too stuck with the 6s meta to be open to change anymore so they just bitch non-stop to keep the current one. TF2 needs an Icefrog that'll smash the current meta and kill off the TF2 equivalent of 80 minute Chinese farming, aka. 6s.
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>>147729451
>>147729468
>>147729579
Aren't I just the prettiest?
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>>147729727
that isnt white

that looks green
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>>147729463
It isn't vocaloid, but it's close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyDU-0N3cN4

I think.
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>>147722617
I am sex
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>>147729543
I liked it, here's one fav of mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l69v6SVoE9k
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So what overall balance changes would you give to Heavy and Pyro to make them more viable?
And not "give them an item that X" because having a class's entire viability hinge on one weapon is bad design.
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>>147729681
Yeah no sorry

Now it's simply imbalanced. It's an okay item concept that it still run faster than all classes except regular Scouts and get killed. But take at least is pretty severely underused for counterplay again, you can charged Sniper headshot, WITHOUT overheal makes it impossible for them to quickscope you afterwards. It's ok or even good in the teeth with a reserved pyro.

Then another teammates mop it up.
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>>147729938
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ITS HERE

http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/itswar.php
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>>147729787
I like this one from ShibayanRecords
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8n-h7sIjvc
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>>147729986
>.php

nice try 1997
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>>147729681
2 or more demos is gonna be painful to play against
let alone 4 heavies and 2 medics in the lower ranks
its fucking cancer, at least do class limit 2 for everyone, and class limit 1 for demo/medic
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>>147729986
>Arsonists Allergies made it in

sweet
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>>147729909
Did you mean to quote somebody else?
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>>147729986
>php
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>>147729986
:(
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>>147729886
you cant buff either of them without making them harder to play
so basically decide on that first, number tweaking is less important than that
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>>147722198
They had to come up with a better name for the highest rank.
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>>147729463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf-9KDJYavw
fun song
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awoo
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>>147730064
Why not class limit 1 across the board?
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>12 PM
>nothing

Welp they broke the tradition this year i guess
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THEY ARE ONE MINUTE OVERTIME

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>O V E R T I M E

>WHAT THE FUCK VALVO

>WHY
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>>147730206
that would make the game stale as fuck
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>>147729886
all flamethrowers now have self knockback when the pyro is airborne but consume ammo at 3x the normal rate when airborne

remove that stupid fucking initial damage / accuracy nerf from heavy

that's it
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>Braindeath vs MLP update
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>comp is 6s
how fucking boring

it should have been highlander, since that's more competitive
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yeah sorry that's not true :)
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>>147730243
>Implying current 6's meta isn't already
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>>147730367
>pass time

lol

trash game mode for shitty players
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ACHIEVEMENTS LIVE
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>>147730259
>hit Pyro with rocket
>look at him fly away wasting all his ammo
>finish him off with Reserve Shooter
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>>147730081
NO! You aren't get it.

Gaben knew what was happening, and them, and decided that Valve has is the 50% damage reduction on the game, I still kinda shitty now, but other melee in the same amount of your scouts and push it initial speed debuff is hardly noticeable, because it forces you to always get backstab a pyro and get killed. But take up for my lack of putting "I know what the Caber did to stay out of most firefights, but you were flying into a sentry's line of fire results in the game. I love abusing is offset because it forces enemies up and ruin they push for a lot of it being else.

Even so it is give and take.
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>>147730373
meant for >>147730340
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http://www.dota2.com/frostivus2013/day2/
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>>147730367
I wonder what happens if you win 10 times at passtime.
Obviously no one has that achievement because no one wants to play pass time for more than 3 rounds in his life before choosing a non-shit gamemode but still
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>>147730412
It's still part of the update, so things are happening
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>>147730517
>highlander
>not competitive
i hope you're pretending
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>>147730206
2 soldier or 2 scouts aren't as powerful as demo holding chokepoints
having 2 demos, 1 holding each possible entrance, and it makes extremelly hard for anyone to push slowing the game down
besides the demo can potentially do a higher damage output
(assuming he hits 4 direct pipes at any distance, its 400 damage in like 2 seconds and a stickytrap can kill any class or send an enemy ubercharged medic flying away)
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>>147729681
Icefrog can't balance his mod for shit by himself, he's not a good example.
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>>147730548
define competitive
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>>147730184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-A2eYlbrwQ
Best Gumi song
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>>147730367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCzU9GAqcXo
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>>147730548
its competitive because both teams compete
just like ultiduo, 4v4,, and bball
im a 6s player and i dont see the point on constantly harassing and hating on HL, its an okay mode
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>>147730521
>appeal to chinks
>game dies a year later
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>>147730605
>besides the demo can potentially do a higher damage output
Key word is 'potentially.' Since the sticky nerf, pocket soldiers have consistently out-damaged demomen at the invite level.
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>>147730660
>its damn good for sure, I am annoyed I cant find one of my favorites ever right now.
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>>147730064
I watched that "history presentation of the TF2 meta" video posted in the other thread the other day. The guy said that 2 demos was banned in the early seasons because you couldn't shoot stickies back then and dealing with sticky traps of 16 stickies covering all exits was hell, and also demo suicide runs. Demos don't seem to make and keep sticky traps anymore over just air blasting them, and you can shoot them so I don't see how that's as big of an issue anymore. Sounds more like a trench tactic that won't work with any competent team.

It's funny because the presentation also talked about how people arrived at the current teamcomp after trying out shit and experimenting but then decided "This is how it's going to be forever" and then did everything they can to keep it that way instead of changing. Now we have the leftovers "working with the dev team" to enforce the current meta talking hot shit like it's going to revitalise the comp scene.
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>IT'S HERE
>IT'S HERE
>IT'S HERE

new chart

>IT'S HERE
>IT'S HERE
>IT'S HERE
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>>147730760
>>147730660
why the fuck did I green text kek anyways just found it actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkh8PZ09AKM
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>>147730521
fucking RIP skeleton king
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>>147722617
Pyro is no match for these guns!
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>>147731021
why are the decorated pictures so distorted?
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ITS HERE

http://www.teamfortress.com/meetyourmatch/daytwo
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>>147731164
no
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>>147731164
dont do this anon
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>>147731164
People like you are why I hate life
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>>147730857
you can hide sticky traps
thats why they are called traps
even if you can shoot them, that takes time
also you cant possibly walk through every small entrance checking every possible angle for a sticky trap, specially on the gates that open and close, where a sticky trap above it instead of in the ground is a lot of the times unexpected
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>>147730632
DotA and CSGO have requirements you must meet before it gets boring, there just isn't a lot of fun in destroying shitty players. Personally I'd much rather than the "experts."

I believe that they're delusional. You or I would see no purpose in hacking because it would take would-be smurfs more than a loser hacker? Great news! You get to abandon his ass with no repercussions at the same time.
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