Previously on /tosg/: >>147658156
>Can I play the game now?
YES YOU CAN (Get it on steam!)
TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.
>Add-ons:
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager
>Cards List:
http://pastebin.com/PrCkZ21n
>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645
>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.
>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
cute ( )
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
TakeItEasy (Moonie_)
>Orsha
Kotatsu (Colyo)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
Cookie Cutter Guide :
>Wizard and Archer still unedited, Discuss in thread before using
http://pastebin.com/aGk6Ku7c
First for Capyba bullying.
>try to play silute
>squire with lv15 maintenances written on shop
>squire c1
>pardoners with maxed buffs written
>Blessing +88
Thank god the server migration, I can fuck off back to Klaip now. Monkeys gonna monkey.
F.O.E is looking for members. PM Jinsae
>>147708224
But I want to play the Rapier + Rotella theme. It's legit but IMC thinks Fencers should only use Rapier + Dagger.
Hopefully when Matador comes out we'll get Cloak off-hands and if I'm lucky enough some shield skills will work with it.
>>147708862
lucky* members!
Unbenannt is looking for members. PM Jinsae
>>147708827
>Dat birdface
>>147708727
How much million worth of mats and recipe has Capyba in the bag?
>>147709040
Most likely more than 30.
>>147709164
keep your shitposting on your guild channel
>>147708827
I don't get it.
Is this some /jp/ thing?
>>147709164
>tfw not on that list
Why do people say Miko will be the new r8 class?
All I see for clerics is Inquisitor.
>>147709447
And Inquisitors are like what? Anyone have any idea?
>>147709447
new ktos patch has datamined something like MIKO_Master and that is maybe a class master
>>147709486
No info yet.
>>147709447
>>147709486
>>147709515
Yeah but there's also a KANU_Master, which is probably Kannushi, which is kind of like a Miko too.
>>147709552
>Kannushi
ZUN?
>>147709447
i sure hope so
i want to be a cute shrine maiden
>>147709552
Actually Kannushi seems to be the male equivalent of Miko. Fucking weebs man...
>>147709529
>It's like diev but you make comfy chairs instead
I'm in.
>>147709447
Miko is going to be an archer hidden class
sorry cleric fags
>>147709726
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Shikigami-centered Wizard when? I want to throw around some paper spells.
>>147709826
Onmyouji is confirmed
>people ACTUALLY going Miko over TAO
>>147709726
>>147709749
>support buff heal debuff archer class
maybe..
>>147709683
You mean a lewd shrine slut
>>147709826
Wait a month or two for r8
>Trying to focus on getting a class leveled
>Also trying to fight the desire to make another one
>>147709958
>>147709749
>Traditional Miko tools include azusayumi (梓弓 or “catalpa bow”)
Keep being delusional.
>>147710009
pls don't be real
>>147710009
Hunter+Fwee+Miko for maximum shrine maiden potential.
In before it's just an off-hand meme item like vuvuzelas.
>>147710029
Why do you think Mikos would be under any other class? Why would they use maces like clerics? Keep in mind clerics also have a lot of support options. Archers having another support class would be good.
>>147710185
>Implying it won't be a Wizard class
>>147710185
>having another support
you mean the first support, archers are the most selfish class, they have literally no jew or true support classes
>>147710185
Because they'll get a specialized weapon. By your flimsy logic, Miko would be the farthest away from a class who shits death through cannons, muskets, daggers and makeshift traps and poisons.
Archers got Mergen and Hackapell.
>>147710343
They have one now with miko.
>>147709749
>>147710029
heh
>>147710404
>Archers still don't have a hidden class
Oh look, a perfect spot for Miko.
So what's the best way to get money from one character to another right now? I'm intending on deleting a character and don't want the silver going to waste. Should I splurge it on some materials for collection stuff I'm still missing?
>>147710467
Ok bud.
https://tos-kr.neet.tv/npcs/57866
>>147710592
https://tos.neet.tv/npcs/57866
>>147710503
Never delete a character since team levels exist
>>147710592
Fox pussy
Should I use this or a one line magic amp 41 instead?
>>147710753
You this of course. Can't you into math or something?
>>147710753
that is pretty good. use it
>>147710185
>Why do you think Mikos would be under any other class?
What if we had a branch full of class based around religions around the globe?
>>147710343
>>147710408
You niggas, hunter and falconer are support classes.
>>147711165
>expecting /tosg/ to know their roles
guys, I'm doing a cookie cutter full support cleric from the OP pastebin https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41222c18.1a213a435561.1321374551659aa5.152545
How are my stats (I'm at lv 197)? I'm a little con heavy because of equips, without those it should be 90 ish (still high), but I was wondering if I should ever stop dumping stats on spr, if there was some threshold or something beyond which it was just overkill.
Also I really like bloodletting on PD, but I hear oracle is good too, any thoughts on one vs the other?
>>147711604
>3 aspersion
>7 blessing
>maxed stoneskin when going spr
you can reroll now
>>147710968
Priest: Catholic
Kebab: Islam
Pardoner: Jew
Sadhu: Hinduism
Monk: China
Lama: Tibet
Oracle: Ancient Greek
>>147711715
>China
>Tibet
>>147711790
Free the Tibet!
>>147711790TAIWAN NUMBAR ONE
Any necro here ? Are the potion cost really as bad as they say or its just a meme to reduce the number of afk-farmer wannabe ?
>>147711687
>>147711604
Oh dang I linked the wrong one, I was messing with that, I have aspersion at 15, bless at 3.
anyways, what's your opinion on the spr? Is PD still the best choice?
>>147711919
>potion
you mean the ded parts which cost around 50k per hour grinding?
>>147711969
Yes
How many potential you should have to make your weapon worthwhile to +10 or when you decide to sell and use another fresh one? I have a +6 weapon and it failed to 10/11 potential when I was going for +8.
>>147711968
Depends what you want to do. PD is always solid, Oracles have their uses and so on.Go Pardoner so for MDef, then you can get Pard2 and sell buffs in R8.
>>147712071
all RNG and luck
>>147712071
All rng, I've seen a dude I know try to do failure and success fedi quest with a trash equip and get to +18 before failing without losing a single potential just as I've seen people fail as early as +6
>>147712212
Well like I said, I wanna be useful for my guild and whatnot, which is why I went full support instead of some druid build. I was wondering what would be most helpful. I kinda didn't get what you meant about pard, would it be superior to both PD or oracle? Also from what you're saying, the answer to should I ever stop stacking spr is "no"
>>147712391
Pardoner is incredible with full spr builds
>>147712592
But the skills I'd sell, besides asp., aren't maxed. I'd never be able to sell them
>>147712654
Don't take pardoner, he's just memeing you
>>147712391
That depends on what your guild needs. Since you have Cleric2, you're "okay-ish to go" for almost everything, but specifics depends on what exactly your guild is missing.
Most guilds want DPS from their Clerics. The party limit is 5, because fuck you full supports.
PvP guilds want PD or get out: Bloodletting or bust!
Krivis is also good for Priest builds, because otherwise you're gonna need to those Daino scrolls.
Oracles have their uses like Resetting and stuff, if your guild doesn't have any of those then that's also an option.
Fucking nobody plays Pardoner builds. I find it quite hilarious how people are willing to shell out millions of silver for a +99 MDef shit-Wall, when a Pardoner1 with 0 Spr gives a +110 Mdef buff. Some builds would also suck your cock for Discerning Evil, but nobody makes their build around that since... well, NOBODY plays Pardoner builds.
tl;dr; Take what you want, nigger.
Just be prepared to shell out a Skill reset if we get KToS Blessing buff. Level 3 was fine, but it won't be once that buff comes.
>>147712704
>he doesn't want to give his party immunity to magic damage and make afk shekels
this isn't even mentioning how much wugus will suck your cock
Is the reward of the hidden quest Failure and Success SP+20 huge? I want to change it as my main warp point because Final Mission makes me walk a bunch of stairs to get to the main street.
>>147712797
>>147712704
Thank you very much
Also on the blessing buffs, I thought the skill values would be kept more or less the same, but spr or int scaling would be added. Do you know anything about it? Also should I keep dumping on SPR forever?
>>147712797
I'd take a pardoner in my grinding party over a pd anyday of the week.
The magic defense they give is enough to take 1s from red ticen magicians at maven
hi, i wanted to start playing this game because I really like the art style and the story seems really fun to just relax and go along with everything, but people keep saying something about r8 and waiting until it comes out to even play. is this a real thing? or should I just go ahead and play now? i dont have much time to play between work and taking care of the BF so i wouldnt want to waste my time now to have to reroll later. thanks :)
>>147713012
>hi, i wanted to start playing this game
you really dont.
>>147713012
>taking care of the BF
Low quality bait, are you even trying
>>147712859
>SP+20
is nothing
>>147713141
he was in a car crash last month and needs a lot of help with stuff.
>>147712915
>Also on the blessing buffs, I thought the skill values would be kept more or less the same, but spr or int scaling would be added. Do you know anything about it? Also should I keep dumping on SPR forever?
It's something like ((SPR*0.06)+(INT+0.08))*SkillLevel. In other words, with Divine Might, your scaling at level 3 Bless is *4 and level 16 would be *16. Your Bless would be literally one fourth of every other Bless.
>>147712973
Yeah, I didn't mean that you shouldn't take a Pardoner. They're under-appreciated, but the simple fact is... I haven't seen or even HEARD of Pardoner PLAYER.
Biggest downside is the MDef buff doesn't have 100% uptime.
>>147711919
the cost of sorcerers using mana potions for summons is a meme. the cost of necromancer corpse pot is a fact. i don't need to reduce any number of necromancer cause my oracle will be up in 3 days so i can kill any of you easily 24/7 on demand.
>>147712071
i just took a +10 enchant rod with perfect potential of 10 minus 2 for sockets and dumped 8,3 million and got a rod with zero potential and +7 enchant. so i spent around 10million total for a +7 rod with no potential after everything was said and done. i already have over 30 million into attributes and that's a good time to have a +10 weapon. aiming for something like +15-20 i think you need 60+ million before considering it after this failure.
>>147713012
this game is comfy as fuck for casual solo-ish play and if that's why you're considering it, go for it
>>147713091
why do you say that? the art style is beautiful and everything seems so comfy. even the pvp looks really fun to me
>>147713214
It's (.06*spr + 0.02*int) * skill level
>>147713012
>i wanted to start playing this game
>but people keep saying something about r8
They r8 it 8/8 it's the best game ever you should try.
>>147713354
>>147713263
>>147713091
What are some of the major criticisms of this game that would make a newcomer not want to invest their time in it?
>>147713581
Everything is wrong in one way or another.
>>147712391
>which is why I went full support instead of some druid build.
Druid2 is one of the best supports in the Cleric tree
>>147713012
If you have any semblance of a life outside of games, you probably won't have to worry about Rank/Circle 8 (known as R8), it'll be here before you get to that point.
>>147713581
Read some steam reviews or something.
It's not hard.
>>147713581
No good pvp due to a pletheora of issues such as no incentives for gvg, bad balancing, no pvp arena in ITOS yet, etc.
Unless you have friends than its mostly solo questing early on outside a few group grinding spots until 200 after which its all party grinding
You can easily fuck up your build and need to reroll completely so lots of research is needed
Lots of bots which made IMC do lots of anti-bot measures which pisses of the real players more than the bots
Thats about it really.
is this a fun game? I tried playing a cleric until 70+ and it got boring with just heal and cure.
I want to try again but don't want a hard time finding a party. Dont mind playing cleric again if I have too, just need something to look forward too.
any suggestions?
>>147713652
Thank you for your answer. :) Why are people saying that you're going to have to reroll after R8 releases?
>>147713712
Did you pick Cleric 2 more times? There is your problem.
>>147713712
don't play the cleric class and go healer mode if you don't want to heal maybe?
>>147713757
I was going for support build or something I forgot already :) It was suppose to be good against bosses and help support the team.
is that a bad idea?
>>147713712
Most freedom: Swordsman, just take pelt 1 and you'll get into every endgame grind party no matter how special little snowflake your build is
Always wanted: Cleric 2, everything else is up to you but cleric 2s are always wanted
Most dps: Elememe for grinding (google it) and fletcher3 for world bossing
Best support: CyroChrono hands down
My suggestion is to follow the above, if you want freedom than play a swordsman or cleric since you can choose whatever you want outside cleric 2 and pelt 1
>>147713581
>i wouldnt want to waste my time now to have to reroll later. thanks :)
This is your first mistake, assuming there is ANY stability. Devs balance this like they have NO IDEA what the fuck they are planning, this is fine for MOBAs or things you don't invest much into building characters, but here it's defining of a bad game. See Shinobi and Swordsman 3, or pardoners who went INT.
>i dont have much time to play between work and taking care of the BF
This would be fine since hte game is a quest fest but the above makes it so you have to reroll several times, and make quests several times.
>>147713687
I don't mean to send you off and do my bidding or anything, but you seem very experienced and knowledgeable with this game, for someone who wants to do pvp and play plague doctor/healer, is there somewhere I can go to research how to build correctly? I've done some looking myself but found a bunch of varying answers. Sorry to waste your time I've just been looking for a game for so long and this looks so promising. If not now, in the future.
>>147713770
I don't mind healing, I just thought I would be in a party most of the time. but ended up just soloing for levels.
>>147713729
Standard meta build-crafting as with any MMO - no one knows for sure what the new hotness will be when we get a whole new batch of class ranks and skills.
The potential snag is some new 2nd or 3rd circle for classes that don't have it right now having something incredible. If people aren't built to get there with their next promotion, that's why they would have to reroll.
>>147713873
TAKE BLOODLETTING
Thats all you need to really know.
Everything else varies by opinion but taking bloodletting is core and unchangeable
>>147713901
>>147713813
Okay lad we'll help you build a nice character.
What do you want to be good at? Just anti-boss and team support?
>>147709486
Inquisitors means "The one who inquires"
>Su labor era principalmente castigar el delito ideológico y teológico y reprimir la heterodoxia.
So they judged through religious laws and burned heretics? Sounds cool desu.
>>147713829
swordsman going INT? seems like they set themselves up to fail? what possible motivation did they have? did they want to roleplay and be le wise ronin xd
are you saying that even if i have the optimal build right now for one class, in the future that could all be just upside-down and I need to restart from level 1 all over again? is there no like.. respec feature in the korean version that would get brought over to international eventually?
>>147713306
its
(0.06*spr+0.02*int) * skilllevel -1
>>147714069
>swordsman going int
what?
Pardoners is a cleric class that scales off both int (indulgentia) and spr (increase mdef), its just that retards went for the indul damage instead of going spr like they were meant to as a healslut.
Swordsman 3 and shinobi is talking about the incoming "buffs" for shinobi that changes the skill from 500% damage for certain skills that swordsman 3 (as well as shinobi have but thats besides the point) have into 50% damage for all skills
>>147713946
yes if possible. I just want to play with others basically and easily join parties. so tank/heal
>>147714069
pardoners who went int got railed by SPR being the best route for Blessing, not swordsman.
no, no respeccing in the game aside from skills, ktos gets stats resetting one from events but itos didnt have a single event since it's birth while ktos gets one every week, not a issue of merging repositories, either.
people say this is a casual friendly game but i really wonder which casuals are they talking about, because everyone casual i knew dropped it after reaching 210-230, some before (170) because of how boring the game gets.
still, if boring shitty games where you reroll is your fetish, then by all means, tos is f2p and open.
>>147714201
see>>147713819
it has all the info you need
>>147714196
well i wanted to be a plague doctor pvp healslut with le epic beak mask from assassins creed. im only level 10 right now, but have been putting every point into int. have i already fucked up?
>>147714302
Whether you go int or spr depends almost completely on what the classes you choose before plague doctor are.
For example, krivis and max cure builds scale heavily off int whilst priests scale heavily off spr
>>147713581
Some things are broken. Also, IMC are placing some ridiculous "anti-bot measures" that fucks things up, and bots are still rampant.
You can try making your own build, but when Rank 8 comes up, you will probably have to reroll again.
Anyway there isn't much of a grinding until 210 or so since you only do quests and stuff, but then again, you can reach R7 without grinding at all, heck they are slowly adding quests for 240+ so that you won't have to grind anymore. Of course you can ignore the quests and just grind your level, but expect a solo grind since most people don't grind at early levels since the quests give huge exp from cards. It's more of a single-player experience desu.
If you come here for the PvP/GvG/WoE stuff, it's largely undeveloped and we have yet to see the PvP ladder and any reward from GvG, you will want to check it out again after a month or two.Personally, I like the lore, had fun doing the quests for the first time.
>>147714302
>pvp heal slut
INT and CON because Stone Skin is shit in arena.
>>147709726
>religious class
>not in the cleric tree
Please.
>inb5 but they use bows
And corsairs can use pistols, what's your point?
>>147714201
Maybe a Dievdirbys?
>>147714442
>people don't grind at early levels since the quests give huge exp from cards
an outright lie, grinding tenet, royal mao workers lodge torch/lamp events and legwyn lamp events provide significantly faster exp than quests as long as you have a token and party
>>147714498
sub weapons don't apply, obviously
why can archers and clerics and wizards use shields when only swords can block
>>147714442
Everyone says reroll pretty casually. Is it not that big of a time sink? How long does it take to get a character to max level? Hundreds of hours?
>>147713901
Get used to it - you're going to be solo until about lvl210. I'm right on the cusp now myself, hit 200 yesterday and never partied once outside of Fedi missions.
That said - if you can make it, it will be a whole new world open. Watch those shouts - everyone wants heals and you'll be in demand. Your major hurdle is making it past the lvl186 break point for the xp reset. Once you clear that, it's pretty fast to the 200's.
>>147714442
>Also, IMC are placing some ridiculous "anti-bot measures" that fucks things up
This ktos patch added a team silver sharing feature. Obviously, you can only use that if you're a first-class citizen
>>147714636
>when only swords can block
lolno
>>147714636
Pistols were changed into offhands though.
>>147714640
To get to 260~ which is when you completely run out of cards take around 1-2 weeks of casual gaming.
From 260-280 however is a massive grind that's equivalent to doing 1-260 twice.
>>147714647
>Everyone wants heals and you'll be in demand
I haven't found this to be the case, by far the most wanted class in shouts seems to be pelts and chronos.
>>147714636
Swordsman can use Rod Type weapon you know
>>147714640
You can reach r7 it in two weeks if you no life it, like most here do. If you don't have much time to play, maybe a month or a bit more
>>147714778
That's because everyone who plays swordsman quit before the massive grinds due to truly understanding how worthless their class are.
Chronos are always handholding with the people who carried them that far which is why you'll rarely see a solo chrono needing a party
>>147714735
>around 1-2 weeks of casual gaming.
What's your definition of casual gaming, 12h/day?
>>147714880
Around 7-8 hours or maybe a bit more which isn't really that hardcore no matter how you meme.
>>147713819
>shitty memes that became outdated in korea already
>>147714940
That's how much time most spend working, lad. Casuals don't really waste that much time a day playing videogames simply because they don't have that much time available on workdays and/or dislike grinding for such a long time
>>147714625
Right, completely forgot about them sorry. There's less people grinding on tenet church now, but I always see parties on the royal maus dungeon. I rarely see royal maus parties on shout, but you can always find a party or two roaming around if you go there anyway.
>>147714735
So is really just playing and making up my own build and rerolling as R8 comes along the only real option? Because if that's the case I could probably wait it out a few months and just play after the release I suppose. I can be patient :D
Though for the future, do you have any links to resources so I can do research to find out how to build correctly so I'm not just wasting my time building like a dumbass?
>>147715325
The OP has everything anon, try reading it
>>147715325
I'd saying to at least wait for this beeg ktos patch that'll probably come in August. However, if you want to, you could still try something out earlier just to get a feeling of the game.
>>147715325
My suggestion is to make a money maker build right now so you're ahead of the game later on and can fund your true build when r8 comes out
so which class are the most useful to play? I dont want to end up being useless after grinding for hours.
>>147715849
Literally just scroll up, this has already been covered.
So which Swordie builds has the /tosg/ seal of approval? I like swords.
>>147714201
What is your current character? Log in, press F1 and F3, upload screenshot.
>>147715924
I wanted to tank, but they say swordsman are useless.
>>147715239
I love grinding! I would grind from 1 to 280, but I'm also a wagesalve, so I can't do that. ;_;
>>147715980
Peltasta1
>>147715849
how useful?
Having pelt 1 is enough and people will automatically want you in their parties especially in high level. Swordsman is weak compared to the other classes in DPS, and literally your role is just taunting the mobs most of the time.
>>147715980
Highlander3 Hoplite2 Dragoon*
Pelt Hoplite2 Squire3
Pelt Hoplite2 Corsair2 Shinobi
Sword3 Cata3 Dragoon*
* might change with Lancer addition
>>147716016
http://imgur.com/dtzXoFc
I fucked up my leveling and use all my XP card. Now im having a hard time grinding.
>>147716191
I said swords! Spear are for fags
>>147716073
Yeah I already have that.
>>147716157
useful in parties. so I can join em. so just as long as I have plet 1 im good to go? guess I can just be a tank that can kill PvE monsters if possible.
>>147716243
>needing to grind before 210 or 160 at the earliest
you're doing something wrong
You most likely missed some quests or completely ignored a questline.
Try going gytis settlement, its common for shitters to miss it
>>147716243
>Lvl 73
>Grinding
>>147716243
cleric c2 > diev c3 > druid > pd
or druid c2
>>147716243
>imgur
Do you not know what an image board is.
>>147716243
>imgur
>Taking INT when carve is a Physical attack that requires STR
Not sure what to say other than you fucked up.
>>147716243
Did you do the other map? Go to town and buy a TP scroll to Orsha/Klaipeda and do the story quest there. Don't forget to talk to npcs more than once in field maps since a lot have quests/chain quests for you. Standard Diev build is Cleric2Diev3Druid2. Going INT is fine but you want some CON too.
>>147716243
Oh you're not doing too bad then. Can you show us your skill point loadout for Cleric?
Dievdirbys is good, just go down that route.
Check this map. I'm level 70 and I haven't used a card since level 40, I'm sitting on 300 level 3 and 100 level 4 cards, and at Sienakal Graveyard now.
>>147716349
is it possible to catch up or im gonna grind forever now?
>>147716243
>grinding this early
literally retarded or someone who missed the whole orsha side
>>147716243
>non lewd imgur
>on 4chan
this is the smell of leddit alright
>>147716403
>tate yuushit
kysmm
>>147716471
>Diev
>STR
Kill yourself
>>147716243
Which city did you start at? You should be doing the quests at the other city too.
>>147716246
Do you like 2h swords? Or do you want to sword and board?
For 2h go Highlander3 Doppel2 or Barbarian3 Doppel2.
>>147716501
see>>147716496
you fucked up but this early it doesn't matter much at all
Hell you're almost in range for good grinding at royal mausoleum workers lodge.
>>147716501
check any maps that you missed
follow this >>147716496
install betterquest addon
>>147716496
>>147716580
>>147716648
Here it is. I did go to the other town (orsha)
>people wonder why casuals quit so early
>turns out they retardly use their cards/miss zones/grind before alemeth
no wonder all the casuals quit
>>147716243
>>147716712
do all quests at all map up to 10 lvl higher than you. see >>147716496
there is absolutely no need to grind under 140 or 2xx
>>147716712
Cleric2 looks almost perfect.
I don't play Dirby but here's what I'd do with skill points.
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4777..112737455a6a75
Did you do sidequests too? The blue ones. Install betterquest like others suggested.
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager
>>147716796
>back then, casuals were people who just wanted a chill experience but were by no means stupid
>now, casuals are retarded people who can't use simple common sense
what went wrong?
Do you think its possible to trade a Wind Runner for a Max Peta?
>>147716796
>>147716934
the generation that unironically uses the term 'shiiter' found the vidyas
>>147717048
Unlikely, max peta go for 10million whilst wind runners only for 4-7
>>147717048
Wind Runner is worth way more, there are so many Peta alternatives and none of them are WB-gated.
>>147716582
Doppel seems pretty fun, I want to go with that.
Which path is more valuable for pve? From what people said Barb is more for pvp focus, and if I wanted pve I should take highlander instead, is this true?
>>147717048
>>147717126
>>147717131
Completely dependant on server. On telsiai, windrunners go for 9-10 mil while max peta only 7mil ish.
>>147716903
ok im know im a noob, but how do you install that addon manager
>>147717205
So you can't literally scroll down?
>>147717205
Go to your tree of savior directory, theres a massive folder called add ons anon, just chuck it in.
However you don't even need to do that since recently excrulon made an exe to do that for you
>>147717337
There isn't by default. You make one.
>>147717281
oops sorry. looks like I downloaded the wrong file so I wasn't able to fine the exe
Any guild willing to take me with them? (247 pelt3squire3, 228 cryochrono and 229 elememe)
>>147718291
>not posting server
anon pls, you know how this works
>>147718291
If you're on Klaipeda FOE is recruiting right now. >>147708862
Right now it's a high level PvE guild, holding off on PvP until it's available in more organized forms (arenas)
>>147718624
FOE is full of shitters though.
>>147718675
Just like you
>>147716796
or maybe they can see the difference between a good game and a bad one lmao
so whats a good sword and board build?
>>147718759
Name a "good" mmo than.
>>147718816
pelt3 high2 templar
>>147718842
there is none
name one good rts thats been released in the past 5 years
hint: you can't because similarly to the MMORPG genre the genre has gone to shit
솔미키
lv 13 min level 275 3,630,357 / 2,795,374
lv 14 min level 450 13,189,741 / 10,156,100
lv 15 min level 600 31,212,626 / 24,033,722
>those mins levels for new cards
>that amount of EXP they give
I'm going to throw up
>>147719168
>3 million exp of which you get 2-3
aahahahaha, I almost feel bad for the people who grinded 20+ hours at maven and storage
>>147719168
It's temporary. Level 600 is the intended cap.
>>147719338
No? They'll just use these cards and shoot past the curve as soon as they're out and keep ahead of you.
>>147719476
oh no they're going to go way past that
>>147719547
One thing Mr. Kim never did is lie.
>>147719547
>he thinks the game will survive till level 600 much less past it
you're delusional or don't know just how badly the game is doing right now.
Off the top of my head:
>merging all of korean servers due to lack of players
>investors making such a loss they're mass selling IMC shares which are worthless right now, e.g. that company that sold 40% imc shares
>nexon is so desperate for players they added a daily log on incentive to try and retain players
>itos is so ded that they had to reduce the channel count to cover server expenses
>>147719008
I dont want to be a guild master.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2bjaMwWdBI
new japanese trailer
>>147719476
How the fuck can they implement 600 levels of content when 3/4 of the lvl 50-250 maps are dead zones? Isn't ktos a wasteland already?
>>147719704
>>he thinks the game will survive till level 600 much less past it
I didn't imply that, but knowing IMC they're probably just going to make like 10 grind areas with no quests or content whatsoever for bazillions of levels to keep the gooks (and iTOS players lamo) playing.
why else would they put in level 15 cards already
>>147719723
All their servers combined have less players than dedpedia which is one of the more dead servers here in ITOS.
KTOS players are bailing ship for ITOS with most waiting for the repository merge before truly jumping ship.
If I take oracle in my c2>diev3 build should I go pd or kabbal? Or maybe just go Druid?
>>147719713
>Ein Sof gets ignored
Truly real gameplay experience
>>147719713
>sword
>boy
IMC PLS
>>147719967
Why would ktos player come in here? for what purpose
Fun fact for varena players: Selling blue spion leather and pincers right now is a fast way to get rich.
I've went from barely 4 million to 12 million within 2 days.
Enjoy and don't share this hint too much.
>>147719967
>KTOS players are bailing ship for ITOS with most waiting for the repository merge before truly jumping ship.
lol that delusion
meanwhile maplestory is so full it needed to open up yet another server
and I mean it is literally fucking 100% full
Is there any point in taking dex at all for monk build that's c2diev2monk3? Since crit rate will fall off if you don't keep pumping it forever isn't it pointless to follow those '100dex 50con then all str'? Might as well just dump full str after enough con isn't it?
>>147720176
More players, have you not been following telsiai's shout chat?
Its filled with koreans.
>>147720223
Even a 10% critrate boost is insanely strong, especially with good str which gives crit attack.
By ignoring dex, you're losing out on massive amounts of evasion, accuracy and crit rate which hugely boosts your damage.
>>147720176
>>147720206
Telsiai has been getting korean players typing korean in shout chat. It's obvious ktos is sinking fast and they're jumping ship.
Meanwhile no one gives a shit about maplestory so keep your comparisons on topic.
>>147720360
>>147720490
Telsiai has had korean chatter since release, if you're stupid enough to think that gooks would jump ship to enjoy less content and shittier servers then you're really fucking nuts.
Like, name 1 thing that iTOS offers over kTOS, and you can't even say population because this game is singleplayer game.
>>147720579
>this game is singleplayer
t. someone whos never been higher than level 200, never done wb and never been in a guild
>>147720646
ebin once you get to 200 you can do unfinished grind on the international version simply epic
>>147719713
BIG FAT KABBALIST TATS!
>>147720721
You can grind before 200 with better exp than exp cards too.
Its your CHOICE to singleplayer quest spam when stuff like tenet and legwyn exists
>>147720721
thanks, miss info
>>147719967
>KTOS players are bailing ship for ITOS with most waiting for the repository merge before truly jumping ship.
OH FUCK HERE COMES THE FLOOD OF
10 PEOPLE WHO STILL LIKE THE GAME!!
OH
SHIT WATCH OUT SERVERS ARE GOING TO
O G R E L O A D
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>>147720646
>Willing to WB against the mafias
>Guilds are useless
>Game becomes shit at 200+
Yeah this game is mostly singleplayer
>>147719982
don't take oracle, druid is significantly better for diev in all situations.
>>147721060
>Have shit friends to play with
>Blame the game
Keep telling that to yourself.
>>147721234
>playing MMOs with already existing friends
>and them only
do people actually do this?
lol
also what has that got to do with his post
>>147721234
Not my fault if the game is shit and made 3/4 of my friends to quit.
>>147721234
>calling someones friends shit
>whilist you have friends who non-ironically play tree of savior
wow dude
>>147721487
At least he has friends playing with him :^)
>>147721234
>have a very big and active friendlist in early EA
>friendlist now
>last online:10 days ago
>last online:15 days ago
>last online:23 days ago
>last online:13 days ago
>last online:30 days ago
>last online:........
>>147721590
nice projection lad
Help!
How do I save a Cleric2>Krivis build? It was my first character and I didn't knew what I was doing, looking at the recommended builds seems like my only path is druid, but I hate druid, seems pretty boring.
There is a way to save this or is better to just reroll?
>>147721743
Theres no need for saving, so long as you have cleric 2, you're auto include even in endgame parties
>>147721743
paladin 3 then probably oracle or something
>>147721743
Just to name 2
Krivis C1 -> Priest C3 -> Plague Doctor/Kabbalist
Krivis C2 -> Dievdirby C3
>>147721869
Pardoner or Zealot. Then Inquisitor in few weeks.
>>147720579
Wake up and smell the roses, ktos has so little players no one wants to stay there anymore, they're jumping ship because itos has announced merging patches for both servers. Why would you stay on a dead server that has no future? Itos is behind for now but it has tons more players DESPITE having less content.
>>147721743
Cleric2>X
Cleric is the only real class tree in the game honest to "freedom of choice"
As long you take Cleric2 you can be whatever you want and still be relevant for something
>Botting at Roxona all day uncontested for 15mil+ a day
>Meanwhile dvine cucks make a measly amount in comparison
Feels good man
yfw random low lvl shitlord in kepa hat passerby steals your dpk
>>147722009
I dare say the same for archer2>X
As long as you have multishot with aoe attack ratio, that's all you need for an aoe party. Better yet if you have circling or a sorc for cat buffs.
>>147722132
Thanks for letting me know your botting spot, reported :^)
>>147722185
>I dare say the same for archer2>X
Not true at all
>>147722185
Archer2 is far from crucial.
>>147721996
Yeah nah I'm not falling for this bullshit until decent proof is given, just because 10 gooks in shout are screaming korean.
/rog/ said that iRO is getting jRO/kRO players by the swarms
/terag/ said that NA Tera is getting jTera/kTera players by the swarms
/mabig/ said that NA Mabogoo is getting jMabi/kMabi players by the swarms
and so on so on, every general on /vg/ spouts this dribble but it always just shows that people quit instead of migrating servers.
>>147709894
Isnt tao gonna be bokor3 required?
>tfw iTOS community is literally killing our developers
shame on you
>>147722836
>miamia
>>147711968
><blessing at 3
reroll.
What if, guys... what if the demon/angel baby is you?
>>147722294
>>147722385
I never said it was crucial, just that as long as you have multishot 10 with aoe attack ratio, you'll be relevant for any aoe party.
>>147722414
Many people have already logged into their ktos accounts to dead maps everywhere. They're merging all the ktos servers into one (1) server, and the game has only been official launched for maybe slightly more than a year. It's dead. Ktos is definately more dead than itos.
Why else do you think IMC is actually merging patches for itos now? You actually believed them when they said the finally realised itos players want more content?
No one gives a shit about those games and they aren't even relevant to ktos/itos situation, so why are you even bringing them up for comparison?
>>147722414
Koreans already moved on to the better game, Wolfknights.
