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We let it die edition


>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc.
http://live.warthunder.com/

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>vg chatroom:
Type " /join vg " into chatbox.
If prompted for a password, use "memes".

>A teamspeak server you can use:
ts.gaijin.net
password is 'Spitfire'

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units - OUTDATED -
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs
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First for slav(e)s
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Xth for nukes should have been dropped on moscow
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Do you think slav players shitpost about Americans
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>>147702127
Pretty sure gaijin uses penal battalions to shill and shitpost
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:(
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Ébressz fel.
Nem tudok felébredni.
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>It's OP when they play it but shit when I do

I thought this was just a meme.

I get fucked hull down in a T32, get my KT turret deleted by IS2s or T-44s 2km away, or get my entire crew killed by a shot from anywhere while I'm driving an IS2 or T-44.

>>147702685
Play low Tier/BR German AA for a fun time getting back into the positives without worrying about losing thousands of lions for repairs if you lose.
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>>147703201
and what is the constant in all of these situations anon?
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>>147702685
How does this actually happen
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/simg/ > /wtg/
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>>147704121
Literally 99% of the generals on /vg/ are better than /wtg/ on any given day
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>>147704408
its a dumb bait meme u dip, stop giving me (You)s
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>>147704507
How is saying something even most of wtg would agree on bait....?
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Am I just ignorant or are G-force effects exaggerated in this game
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>>147704614
As for FM, not sure, I should do proper testing one day.

Pilot physiology wise, it's seriously isn't strong enough.
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>>147704765
>it's seriously isn't strong enough.
How the fuck did anyone pull out of a dive then
How the fuck did energy fighting happen
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>>147704854
It didn't happen with G force that would knock the average pilot out I'll tell you what.
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>>147703725
Tanks that people consider good or I have trouble dealing with turn to shit whenever I drive them.

Guess that's just me fishing for advice.
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>>147704854
>How the fuck did anyone pull out of a dive then

many didn't

>How the fuck did energy fighting happen

Energy fighting should be quite low G. That said my definition is the same as the one in Fighter Tactics and Maneuvering.
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gun collision when?
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>tfw J'ing out just before the diving enemy's rounds reach your plane
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gun barrels not passing magically through the stone when

also, what's your opinion about sheridan?
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>>147709312
>gun barrels not passing magically through the stone when
never, it was tried and gaijin couldn't make it work properly. They probably don't want to, either.
>also, what's your opinion about sheridan?
kind of fun, but maps like karelia, frozen pass, and ash river are still in the game, so not that fun
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>>147708586
Kys naziboo
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>>147709775
do you have any vids where you actually kill anything with that thing? Because I seriously doubt it considering your aiming skills are shit
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>>147709775
>vermin calling people naziboo when he's the biggest one in this thread
oh I'm laughing
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>>147710023
Muh stats
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>>147710160
Was that suppose to be impressive?
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>>147710160
100 rnds per enemy aircraft, that's almost pathetic
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Why do the Pz4 J and Bfw have a higher BR than the G when they are inferior?
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I can't aim for shit with the Yak 9T.

So difficult to get visual feedback with the tracer, since they seem like they just go through the plane.
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>>147712356
Are you the same guy that was asking in the previous thread why M26 is higher BR than T25 when the M26 is obviously inferior?
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>>147712464
No, but that's also a really good point
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New update hit: http://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/597/

SS11 missile (RJpz-2 and Strv 81) performance has been fixed - previously a missile reached its maximum speed at the maximum shot range. Engine thrust has been increased, thus a missile reaches a speed of 150 m/s within the first 1000 metres.
The efficiency of the 30mm HE shells (aircraft cannons) has been increased, especially when hitting smaller aircraft (single engine).
BR changes for aircraft and ground vehicles have been implemented.

>tfw idiots forgot to give access to the google docs
>>147712769
Is it now, you going by stats too like that guy?
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>>147713021
>missiles are buffed

ok
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>>147713021
at least Tu-4 has 8.0 now.
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>>147713021
BR chnages from RU forum
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8izyJsmF_Iz_N7rdR6caaK5goVnG9uNjJEXM2TdKfI/pubhtml (still only Panther F change in RB)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nuJgOCObZTva7npPnJxxdTs65G-4neifW3OlaOhyL5Y/pubhtml

>we listen to your feedback, we swear!
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>play this game for the first time in weeks to try out EC
>all the damage models have been buffed to hell and back so it now takes literally several dozen ShVAK hits to down a bomber
wew. At least at one point they were usable in close range. Now there's basically no point in trying to kill bombers as Russians. I hope at least that the MG 151 and Hispanos are good?
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>>147713608
>XP-38G is still a thing
gaijin don't give a fuck
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>>147713608
well done

proper usage of double edged sword, shame they can erase it anyway
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>>147710147
But that's Vegeta
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I think it's time to say goodbye to this game, not because of the state it's in, but because I'm just not improving.

In Ground Forces, I die due to near-invisible tanks one-shotting me from across the map.

In Air Battles, I die because I can't defensive maneuver for shit.

Years ago, I was good at both, but seems the average player has outskilled me.
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>>147712464
What?

The M26 is great, I do much better in it than the T25 which was suffering for me.

You stand a reasonable chance of bouncing shots now with the same mobility and gun.
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How the literal fuck do British planes pull off the maneuvers they do.
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>>147715687
also HEAT
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>>147716137
That's M46 which is on completely different level than either those two. M26 and T25 get same ammo, which doesn't include HEAT
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>>147715767
They were designed that way.
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>>147716218
oh yeah, mixed them up
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Why are German teams so useless against the Russians?
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>>147716974
Planes:
>because Russian planes have fantasy UFO dark matter energy generators and some can outmeme even the best of the German energy fighters

Tanks:
>because Russians have slopes and Germans do not
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>P-51D at 4.3

I am offended that Gaijin think this plane is shit.

Should be back at 5 with the D30 at 5.3 to fill that slot out.
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>>147716974
Because the meta favors the strengths of Russian vehicles
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>>147716974
German tankers and pilots are legitimately retarded

They don't understand the concept of situational awareness let alone flanking
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>>147717605
So do the Russians

It mostly depends on the time one plays. In the morning German teams rek but at night they get destroyed.

(european time)
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>>147703937
Play stock early t5 american tanks with no premium and you'll be there in no time.
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>you'll never get dominated by hakurei
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Have the BR changes been applied yet?
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>>147719441
yes >>147713021 >>147713615
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>sneaking up on a Yak from above
>he doesn't seem to see me, closing in to .4km, about to open up on him
>suddenly a teammate appears behind me and starts shooting at him
>misses every shot, gives him warning to turn hard away from me
>teammate crashes into the ground from pulling up too late
>Yak's teammate (who my teammate either didn't notice or chose to ignore) swoops in behind me and kills me before I can pull away
Sometimes I wish I could just play this game single-player
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>>147717605
lol
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>>147719650
Awesome

Time to have fun in the Meteor F3 again
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>>147715767
What are you talking about?
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>>147720004
Every plane can pull retarded maneuvers in arcade.
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>>147720004
What makes you think anyone here is asking about arcade you dumb fuck
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>>147720004
>arcade
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>>147720138
You should really work out these temper tantrums anon
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>>147720609
You should really fuck off
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>>147720708
>this is the average ts member
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>>147721024
lmao, what will be next, a random namedrop or just spamming "ok naziboo" again
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>pockrt being a dumb slav(e)aboo again
typical
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>>147715767
The flight model is a joke. Ask ethnic pilto. He tested it.
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>there is literally nothing wrong with ground forces
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>>147723274
>M15
why
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>>147723414
Because I was given a talisman for it and I find it easier to shoot down planes with the 37mm than with the M16
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>pockrt still comes around here even though everyone hates him
sad desu
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>>147723525
who
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>>147723810
Just ignore vegeta.
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>tfw I can put my Meteor F3 in service again
I'm so happy bros
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field repairs when
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>>147724245
OKAY POCKRT
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>>147723525
I don't hate pocket.
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>pockrt falseflagging and namedropping Vegeta
>pockrt pretending anyone likes him
pottery
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>>147724424
fuck off back to >>>/reddit/ pockrt
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>>147721707
I have a good guess, but I don't think he wants you to know
he hasn't stopped playing
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>>147702685
go Air Arcade
grind a bit to unlock planes
make good low-tier lineup
make 15k+ easily in 5-10 minutes long battle
come back every time your SL reach critical level
suggested lineups for best gains / skill ratio
Germany 2.3 Bf 109 B-1, Bf 109 E-1, Bf 110 C-4, He 112 A-0, He 111 H-6
Germany 3.3 Bf 109 F-4, Bf 109 F-2, Bf 109 F-1, Bf 109 E-4, He 111 H-16
UK 2.3: Spitfire Mk.I, Hurricane Mk.II, Sea Hurricane Mk.I, Hurricane Mk.IV, Wellington Mk.I
US 2.3: P-36C, F4F-3, P-40, A-36, TBF-1c
US 3.3: P-38E, F4F-4, P-40, A-36, B-25
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>>147703201
>Play low Tier/BR German AA for a fun time getting back into the positives without worrying about losing thousands of lions for repairs if you lose.

I just did, got second place on a winning match with auto repair off, 3 caps, like 4 assists and 9 kills and got 9000 sl
Does the RP gains cap on earlier tiers also affect SL?

On the other hand I got 6000rp
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>first game with mig9
>3 kills
damn this plane is fun
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>>147717519
RB EC with historical lineups should become standard, then BR bullshit would become irrelevant.

Though BoB event suprised me by lack of German players. You would think they would wait in line to uleash 5.0 - 6.0 Bf 109s and Fw 190s, on 3.7 - 4.7 Thunderbolts and Mustangs.
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I'd love to play tanks more but I get about 5fps on more than half the maps. And whenever I've flying I can't aim worth a damn because the enemy plane is jumping around with my shitty frames.

Why even live senpai?
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>>147725913
>3.7 - 4.7 Thunderbolts and Mustangs.
Those were rare. In my experience I was mostly up against spits and typhoons.
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>>147725136
there's no cap I'm aware of, but with gains multiplier like 10-20% for most of Tier I vehicles, don't expect to make much lions.
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>>147724248
>3 Me-262s wrecked in my first game in it since forever
inbr back at 8.0 due to sekrit statistics
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>>147726016
dunno. In matches I played it was usually 50/50 between burger and bong planes. Might be intentional even.
Though admittedly, players with Spits Mk.XVI were usually ones with most kills.
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>Gaijin finally realizing their aircraft models are shit
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nice fucking forum lmao
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>>147726661
How do you even fuck that up? Are they even comparing measurements when they model or do they just look at some pictures and sculpt from memory?
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>>147726912
CSS? More like ASS
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>>147725129
Hurricanes and Spit have just been upped to 2.3 in arcade
Bf 109 E-4 is 3.0 now
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>spawn-camping will never be fixed
>suicide-bombing will never be fixed
>GF rewards will never be fixed
>tanks will never be fun
>there will never be another game like this one which actually makes use of its potential
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I was ok with tu4 but now when it completely ruins russian jet matchmaking I want to die
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>>147726989
They probably just fucked up the position of the wings when assembling the thing since they have shit set up like in pic related when starting. They create the model from those projections. You model wings separately from the whole thing, same with wheels and shit and only then put it together. The guy either fucked up when measuring how far back the wings need to be or had different blueprints as a background (which is probably the case here)

>>147727937
Tanks are fun but the rewards are so shit it's off putting. When you make like 1k RP per match for your one 21k RP module, you lose interest pretty quickly
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>hear about EC beign RB way it should be
>get a stick
>configure it for most part blindly, because never had stick before
>it took me only 4 attempts to take off
>pretty good so far
>next lesson: turn back and land without crashing
>crashes then turing back to airfield: 4 and counting
>landings failed: 11 and counting
I guess I'll keep playing RB for some while
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>>147728521
dont bother doing the tutorial gaijin gives its fucking retarded
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>turrets knock out an enemy's engines
>he's forced to crash land
>just counts as a crash, doesn't give me any credit even though I'm 100% the reason he went down
Even the kill reward system is as jewy as it can possibly be
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>>147728521
Stop being bad and start being that other thing.
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Why is the T26E1-1 the same BR as the Tiger II (H)?

Comparing their stats, the Tiger has a better gun, better armor, and even goes a little faster.
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>>147730351
>Comparing their stats
post would've been better without this bit of text, now you just look like a retard who happens to be correct
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>>147730351
naziboos need their tiger 2 to club because lmao historical accuracy
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>>147730351
Gaijin subscribes to the M82 nuke meme.
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What did he mean by this?
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>>147730880
Are the stats on tanks incorrect? Does the gun not perform as the stats indicate? Is the armor not as thick as the stats indicate?

Last I checked, they were pretty accurate for the tanks, but not so much for the planes.

I'm really not sure what rustled you about it.
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>>147731113
he wants to put his weewee into your tailhole
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>>147728340
I'm glad it doesn't ruin my 6.0-7.0 fun anymore. 8.0-9.0 can go fuck itself.
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>>147731208
Stat cards aren't as wrong as they are for planes, but they are pretty shit for tanks too. Speeds are extremely deceptive, as only road top-speeds are listed, speeds you realistically can attain and acceleration isn't mentioned, guns can't be judged by stats, and armor can't really either.

I'm mostly triggered due to PTSD from long arguments with people who after tens of minutes reveal that their sources were statcards
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>>147731703
I'm not arguing anything. I just said "I looked at the stat cards of these two tanks, and one appears to be plainly inferior judging from the numbers."

I never claimed to have an expert opinion on the matter.

Though I do use the Tiger II (H) sometimes, it's not a good tank for having good habits in. It kind of makes me want to rely on my armor more when I use it, which is obviously a bad idea always.
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>>147731401
7.0 constantly gets put with it tho
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MiG-9 /L or Meteor 3?
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>>147733426
>decide on the MiG because lmao slavs
>get uptiered into a team if Tu-4
meteor it is
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>>147730971
>club
Aren't you a bit late on that whinewagon?
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MAKE TANK MAPS BIGGER!!!!1
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To whichever guy was saying giving feedback last week when they posted BR changes was pointless, I'm sorry guy, you were right. I thought they were finally being serious when Stona was spamming "I'm collecting feedback, post constructive feedback and changes will be made", but they proved once again that was bullshit excuse.

Apart from obvious baits (so they could say "hey look, we're listening to you guys!") like 229 going to 6.7, Sea Meteor+F80 going to 7.0, nothing was done. Teebs have been whining about Meteors forever now, so they got it, but for tanks nothing but Panther F changed. They once again proved feedback or statistics about a vehicle are irrelevant and don't warrant for a lower BR when you only have 2 top tier vehicles, so leaving the shit one is where it is fine apparently.
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>>147725913
Are these french AMX?
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Why is there big red streaks on the F-80c and Ho229?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/1QDWlnuw7xBlQnkaucQR8LD11Z0h_eYHeeQTy3cuLjg8/pubhtml
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>>147735386
Because they decided to not downtier them.
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>copy/pasted brit premium P51 at 3.7
>P51D at 4.3

????
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>>147737354
>being a retard
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>>147737436
what?
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>>147737530
>plane a at x battlerating
>plane b at y battlerating
????
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>>147737530
The Brit mustang is an earlier variant with a weaker engine you silly cunt
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>>147737714
>>147737663
and it's only .6 br lower?
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>>147737802
I'm sure you can spot more differences between them
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>literally stuck near 0 lions because of RB grind with no premium

why the fuck has it come to this
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>>147737854
that one is shit and the other is incredibly undertiered?
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>>147735084
aye, Char Lance variant, with SS.11 missiles.
AMX-13 had tons of variants, including 75mm, 90mm and 105mm guns, several with turrets from other vehicles, 105mm howitzer, 155mm howitzer not to mention specialist vehicles like APC, SPAAG or ARV
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cb when
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>How do we fix the P-51D series and the community's loathing of it's new BR reduction?

The hard way, and right way is telling the players to get good in them, and maybe reworking these maps (especially some Japanese maps)

Although there is an alternative in going about this. The Italian Air War patch.

They can add a more fleshed out Italian fighter line such as the MC 205 and Re 2005 along with others to pair up against the 109 F-4 and 190 A-4s against the allies. But instead of the having P51Ds and D-30s going against 109 F-4s. Gaijin can introduce the P-51cs and Razorback (C) P47s along with notable bomber such as the B-26 (B-G) Marauder

http://i.imgur.com/P9faF0t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jzKNxN0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/chnTFKJ.jpg

Add an Italian/Rome air map and there you go with a revitalized 1942-43 European air-war that would then bump up the P51Ds to 5.0 br

Any thoughts on the idea?
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The issue with the P-51D-5 currently is the rudder for some reason is absolute fuckery

that doesn't mean it should be 4.3 but it definitely needs an instructor adjustment
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>>147738057
>155 mm on light tank chassis
not that it hasn't been done before, but both M41 HMC and German 15 cm SPHs had small guns with rather poor range, while this one could outrange most SPGs at the time, with exception of M40, M109 and M107
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>>147739341
they should have fleshed out Mediterranean fighters a long time ago. 1943-1944 is the best era of ww2.
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>>147739341
>Japanese
Step 1: Do not allow land-based planes from any side on carrier maps.
Step 2: Fix repair cost maymay
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>>147739341
>The hard way, and right way is telling the players to get good in them
You're talking about a nation that has been turnfighting Zeroes since CBT. US pilots refuse to get good, so telling them to do that will only create another whinefest as to how bad they have it and how "Gaijin hates US planes", the same they are doing with US tanks.
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>>147701924
>>A teamspeak server you can use:
>ts.gaijin.net
>password is 'Spitfire'
Gaijin dropped TS and moved to Discord, so you can fuck off with this meme now and post the actual TS server which is ts.gonnahate.org. Here's the shitty news for your memeing ass http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/321820-teamspeak-server-offline/#comment-6303731
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>500kg bomb 10-15m behind PZ4
>set it on fire

why the fuck did they have to overbuff the fucking nazies again
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>>147742074
Good point, I'll put the discord server in the OP next time.
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>>147741528
The only pilots that have any skill are Germans.
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>>147744232
Stale meme, naziboo.
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>>147744934
Seriously though.
Burgerlards can't figure out how to not turn fight with their easy to use speed machines.
Brits have spacefires
Slavs have easy to use energy generating yaks that can out turn and out everything everything else
Japs have hard to use left right machines.

The Germans are the only ones with balanced quality planes and pilots that fly German understand this and are incredibly skilled pilots.
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Just got the Avenger.
Why the fuck no APDS?

Also why so ded?
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>>147745152
also adding that nazi planes get nerfed more often than literally everything else

enjoy your 600kph lockups on the d9, bf109s being clumsy bricks, etc.
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>>147746840
>posted from my extremely difficult to use 190 A-4 and 109 G-2
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Is there any point to HESH over APDS as a Teeb?

I have both in my loadout but I find myself never using HESH, I've tried using HE in the past with horrible result and have always just stuck to the solid shot.
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>>147748121
nice memes
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>>147748358
Anon, HE asd HESH have nothing in common
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>unlock Cent Mk 10
>oh this is gonna be great fun, all my shells are free too and cheap repairs!
>figure i' ll get uptiered into chieftain games too that will carry me to wins anyway
>been downtiered almost every game
>somehow i'm getting rekted by enemy tanks
>all my shots are ending up being shit
>pretty much barely any kills somehow
>also never been in a chieftain game yet ;_;

I don't understand how I went from Cent Mk 3 being pretty competent with it and doing really good like my Caernarvon to a complete shitter in my Cent Mk 10.

I'm basically facing the same tanks with a better gun yet i'm doing awful.
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tfw free
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>>147749129
>arcade
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>>147748489
Fuck off naziboo
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>>147746840
>600kph lockups on the d9
>literally lying
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>>147749768
kill yourself /wtg/ shitposter
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>>147749076
>being shit at a tank with a 305 pen gun while being downtiered

teeb players everyone.

Centurion Mk. 10 should be a 7.7 tank also, it's retarded that they let that nuke shell into 6.0 games. Like really, as a IS-2 tanker how the fuck am I supposed to compete with someone who can point and click a 1km away and one shot?
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Did they nerf the Hispano Mk.II's? I just got "Hit"s on two seperate Jap planes, hitting each with probably 10-15 rounds. HEF/HEF-SAPI belts should have just blew him to bits.
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>>147751678
All guns have been massively nerfed.
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>>147750186
Just flank.
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>>147752023
But why? Why can't planes just be shot down rather easily? You know, how they were?

For instance, 7.7's are peashooters by the time you use most of the English heavy bombers and they make up most of your defenses.

IRL those 7.7's would still chew the shit out of a plane.
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You guys ready for the Spaded M-26 Pershing???
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>>147752023
Dunno about that, 2x 20mm are literially one shotting stuf for me on the arado C3
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>>147752314
because crybaby shitters whined
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>>147752945
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Should I grind out all of clapper or soviets or finish my nazi tree that is at the end of T3?
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>>147715687
>same mobility
worse mobility
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>>147753127
Why the fuck is the M26 6.3? The M82 shot is basically identical to the Tiger I's APHE, and its frontal armor is barely any better than the Tiger I. Yet the Tiger is 5.7 (or 6.0 if you consider the E).
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>>147753781
See >>147731042
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>>147751678
>>147752023
>>147752314
war thunder isn't as much of a michael bay movie as before wooooooow

maybe look at how simulators model guns and damage to compare?
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>>147753861
It isn't any better than the 88 though. That isn't to say the KwK36 is bad, far from it. It's one of the better shells when it comes to consistent damage.

By this logic why isn't the Tiger I 6.0 and the E 6.3?
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>>147754270
Because they don't fire M82.
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>>147754443
Right, but the post pen of M82 and PzGr 39 are both very similar.

I guess Gaijin just knows something I don't.
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ded
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>>147753298
Do the soviets for fun or finish your T3 nazi tree and proceed to carry your team with a Tiger E that constantly gets into 7.0BR matches. Either of those is fun if you aren't shit. And stick to the 88, fucking Panther's 75 is annoying as hell since it needs both multiple penetrating shots or bounces way more than the 88
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>Join extended conflict
>Enemy team is 4 squadded players
>4 level 100s appear in space with their P-39 spacecobras

I just want to farm AI
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>Meteor at BR 7

It's still shit stock
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>>147758496
>tfw I prefer the Vamp
gone after a single season. FACT.
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>Someone finally made a Rhodesian Canberra Skin

Finally I can have a complete RhAF lineup.

Operation:Westlands Farm when?
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>>147759146
The only reason I still grind this game is for a Rhodesian vampire
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>>147759517
>>147759146
Haha edgy!
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>>147758496
No shit, every plane is bad stock. But once you spade it you will be shitting on 262s and P-80s not so much 229s, they're the one jet that can outturn you
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>>147759517
Unfortunately the skin isn't updated for PBR so it looks a bit like shit
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When?
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>US Army command didn't want to adopt the 76mm because it's high explosive shell was worse than the 75mm
Why didn't they just use RDX and have a more potent HE shell with the reduced filler weight?
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>>147731113
you should blush and tell him "t-thank you"
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>>147760310
Reminder this was captured with a flare gun by an airfield crewman.
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>ATGM a chieftain turret
>"Hit"
>Fire another one at the leopard beside him
>Goes right through his turret without it registering

OP, right?
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>>147760582
>worse
as in less reliable, not lesser amounts of explosives
RDX would've made it even less reliable
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>9.0 with Stillbrew Chieftain, T-64, MBT-70 and KPz-70 never ever
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>>147761065
The 76mm literally had almost 50% less filler weight in its HE shell than the 75mm.

And RDX being unreliable is a shit excuse if the two nations most involved with tank warfare used it.
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>>147761195
>New addon armour modules released
>Chieftain gets one
>Instead of tracks or wheels or shit it's a big set of stillbrew
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>people come here to complain about all the mediocre premium content they keep releasing
>people complain about how they never fix the match maker or badly arranged tank and plane trees' BR's

>those very same people turn around and post what new mediocre premium they want gaijin to release ASAP

It's like you guys are trained by Gaijin to want a new (gimmicky/premium) vehicle to be released every time they leave things fucked up, or fuck them up worse.

Trust me, guys. They know what is fucked up in their game and what isn't. It's just that new premium content means Gaijin gets more money. ACTUALLY FIXING the core issues in the game isn't something you can buy with GE. That makes it low priority.
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>>147754042
>bomberbabby detected

Look, I know you hate being shot down in the first pass, but that just happened in real life sometimes, kiddo.
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>>147761490
Slav shells were notoriously bad. Their fuses were especially untrustworthy.
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>>147761490
I'm probably wrong about the first bit, but RDX is more unstable. I can't say whether it was a good or a bad decision, but the nazis lost, no?
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>>147762294
[Citation needed]

>>147762306
Good thing both Germany and Russia used RDX then
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>>147719708

imagine your teammate a moe girl
she tried her best!

>>147761632
fixing those allows the game to be more popular. they release ships soon and will have an influx of new players, to keeps those they have to fix br

on a side note i wish there will be akizuki or something and i will fuck up any plane in the sky which i meet because i hate planes so much in wows
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>>147762482
>implying the russia wouldn't have fallen without the dunnite push from the west
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>>147762237
fuck off with your buzzwords

war thunder damage is hilariously bad
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>>147759627
Bob, shouldn't you be asleep?
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>>147762694
>fixing those allows the game to be more popular

You'd think so, wouldn't you? Doesn't seem to be much mass demand for it, because Gaijin has you all whipped fucking good.

Just look at how they recently claimed they were taking feedback very seriously for this update. There was widespread requests to give more attention to the matchmaking and how the RP gains for tanks are pitiful.

Well, they didn't listen to our feedback. Surprised?

>>147762978
>b-buzzwords!
Don't see any denial there, so I guess I pegged you right.
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Reminder that Mods don't even play their own fucking game
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>>147763309
>he doesn't like seeing every kill being a massive fireball
>hurdur he must play primarily bombers
remove yourself from the gene pool, honestly
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>>147762237
did you pull that assumption out of your anus?
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>>147763590
Now you're just pulling words from nowhere, buddy.

>Why can't planes just be shot down rather easily? You know, how they were?

I don't recall saying
>why don't planes ignite and burn up every time a tracer hits them?

I honestly don't understand where you're coming from when you think even ten 20mm HE rounds hitting a Jap fighter wouldn't cause major damage to it. You're literally arguing that the more arcade-like the damage per round is, the more akin to reality it is.

>>147764091
I did. Tell us how you really feel about it, anon.
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>>147762763
Didn't the western Allies see a grand total of three tiger tanks on their way to Berlin?
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>>147764226
we were talking about HE shells, though
tank versus tank combat was never the topic
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Who /rhodieboo/ here?
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>>147764190
>hitting something with ten(10) 20mm HE rounds doesn't kill it in shit thunder
lmao

is this the evolution of the "I put x00 rounds into him and he didn't die!1!!one!!1" bitching?
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>>147764523
It was an example of which sides tanks were seeing more combat than the other
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>>147760839
>Fired from my unhittable turret-down T-62 chassis with no minimum arming distance rockets
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>>147764808
I never signed up for this discussion, go suck Putins dick somewhere else
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>>147764190
so you admit to spewing bullshit

opinion discarded
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>>147765184
lol xd bomberbaby!!
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>>147765184
>implying you were even pretending to take me seriously to begin with

>>147764737
Oh sorry I'll just get good. Sorry I didn't recognize your internet superiority sooner!
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So does anybody still play bong tanks?
I'm suffering through their T4 grind and there only ever seems to be 1 or 2 bong tanks per team.
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>>147765484
I'm terribly sorry you're incapable of aiming. Keep practicing man.
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>>147765582
I'm in T5 teeb and yeah teeb is suffering. In T4 I just played Caer/Cent 3/Tort
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>>147764848
>turret down
They fixed that. Also, if you try a sniping match with an IT-1, you deserve to die for being shit
>no minimum arming distance
the fact they are coded the same as normal rockets, it makes up for it
ie.
>Directly hit someone
>"Hit"
Or
>only thing you damage is the track
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Combat flaps for yaks when?
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>>147764526
just a little
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>Meteor F3 back at 7.0
Awesome
>F9F-2 still at 9.0
FUCK OFF??!!
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>>147766607
Face it. A panther is more than a match for even four MiG-15s.
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Why does America have so few T series tanks? Gaijin could fill in every gap the American tree has with them.
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I'm honestly so sick of being fucking lied to by Gaijin.
>We never added a retarded spotting system like World of tanks
>Stuff getting fucked with in stealth patches with no patch notes
>ninja nerfs
>blatant lying and shillary

I'm honestly thinking about selling my account
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>>147767461
>We never changed anything in that mysterious path with no notes
>what do you mean that ATGM's are brokenly bad goy? They are working just as intended
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>>147766946
you are an american pilot, quiaff? you have to overcome the enemies of your clan with what tech your khan gave to you
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>>147767461
No one cares lol
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>>147767461
This has honestly confirmed my belief that the spotting system is what's responsible for shots phasing through enemies now.

It's happened far too many times to be coincidence, and even just the act of moving in and out of cover/field of view shows that there IS a spotting system in the game. It has to be what's responsible, I can't think of anything else.
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>>147767802
That's my point. People just keep spoon feeding them money and all they do is make the game worse
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>>147767461
at least you know what you're getting with planes

tanks just seems like such a mess slapped together with a longer grind

feels good knowing I never gave gaijin money over the last few years
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>>147767896
No I mean no one cares about your opinion lol
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>give this game 3 matches
>first match
>5.0 clap lineup
>max up tier facing only tigers/panthers
>complete fucking rape
>second match
>5.7 tiger/panther lineup
>max up tier facing T29s and mod 1944s
>get a few kills
>game ends in about 6 minutes of pure fucking hell
>fuck tanks
>third match
>fly out in my f-4/trop
>max up tier vs russia
>facing nothing but 3Ps, la-7s, and 2 pe-8s because lolynot
>dive on a 3p
>sparkle 1/2 my rounds but manage to light his fuel tank on fire
>he is able to turn on me in a dive, on fire, and and blow me to pieces

Fuck this game. Fuck blog posting. Fuck the memes. Just fuck it.
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>>147768058
lol xdd
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>>147768058
you sure showed him lol. I'm gonna share this on /r/oasts
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>its a hitbox that is bigger than the object you are intending to shoot over eats your shell episode
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>>147768085
>I flew straight past my opponent and expected him to not kill me
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>>147768354
>plane TURNED on him
>plane didn't DIVE on him
>plane didn't CLIMB on him
>TURNED

anon i know you're a shill but could you at least not make an ass of yourself and imply anything wrong with this game is user error?
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>>147768085
gaijin firebombed when?
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>>147768605
Wow yeah you're right the anon definitely didn't fly past him from his dive, he probably pulled up away from the Yaks direction of travel to not even give him the opportunity for a shot.

Oh wait if he had done that we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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>blame RNG for something they don't like happening in-game, and usually rightfully so
>the same thing happens to someone else
>"it's not RNG, you're just a shitter"
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>it's a kugelblitz player tries saying the ZSU-57 is cancer episode
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>>147769185
t. cancer driver
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>>147769185
>pot, meet kettle
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>it's a catch an Arado lawndarting with a Yak 3 VK in a shallow dive episode
Too bad it gets almost clubbed by props.
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>shoot down a mod
>check the forums to see if messer_smitt is one of the abhorrent shills
>it's been revamped and I can't find post history
what is this
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>>147769830
Messer_Smitt is one of the very few based mods
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>>147769830
Proof? Messer is a tech mod.
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>>147767772
Huh?

I'm memeing about this nigga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj_Xy7QctFc
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>>147769928
aww
oh well, wasn't aggressively targeting him or anything.
>>147769961
reason I checked the forums was to see if it was blogworthy, not doing it if he's a good guy. He was in a D-9.
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