floppy hats edition
>Patch notes
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_1
>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp
>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!
>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)
>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation
Old >>147428108
first for the lady
second for nothing
>>147516890
ELFED
>>147516832
Rollan!
first for guide to winning battles as anything
Sixth for something.
reposting from the last thread because I made a post just as it died >>147516863
and here is a campaign map
>>147516943
do it again where I can actually read the text you twat
BESTMEN WHEN???
>>147517023
yiff in hell furfags
That goes for you skaven nerds as well
Xth for Greatswords
>>147516943
Lemme tell ya a sekrit 'oomie.
Deez battle planz will win ya da fites.
>>147516931
Roooooooooollin
>>147516890
>Bretonnia
>>147516931
rollin for coop campaign
>Asrai still not announced
Death to Greenskins
>>147517062
>hating on reddit rats
butthurt man-thing
How do you confederate?
>be Empire
>Strength Rank 3
>own all of Reikland, just conquered Marienburg
>even dudes with Underdog, with whom I have a trade agreement, military access, defensive alliance, won't join my shit
what do
Cheers for the replies orevious thread re LME, got it mixed up with IS, when I tried playing that both the Brits and French build trees were broken by there being no way to build one of the barracks tree buildings, I understand they finally got around to fixing that?
>>147517130
slut armor is shit
>>147517254
>tfw
>>147517254
eventomorrowwould be too long
>>147517289
Wait for Chaos, in the meantime you probably want Nuln early, fuck up Vamps too.
>>147517289
They need to get their ass kicked before they accept confederating
>tfw I like bretonnia and wood elves
i-is this ok?
>>147517283
GW out
>>147517457
>I like being a cuck and cucking others
no
>>147517254
Sluts made for Bretonnian cock.
>>147517289
They will confederate if they feel threatened by another race.
War... war never changes
>>147516992
Oh my god
>>147517497
Fucking cancer
>>147517254
Asrai?
More like "asraiped by beastmen"
>>147517348
>he doesn't like superior mobility
>>147517254
I'd assraid that.
>>147517480
>hating on GW
It's like you're not playing Warhammer®: Age of Sigmar™
>>147517797
What's the problem with Age of Sigmar exactly? I know it add a new Fantasy Marine and that it makes Cunt Vampires good guys.
>>147517794
Good for you
What are some units/LL you'd like to see added for existing factions?
>Runelord for dwarfs
>Skullcrusher cavalry for WoC
>>147517881
It's an entirely new universe that changes all names to be more trademark friendly. Also the lore is like something a retarded teenager hastily scrawled down one night while drunk.
There's a guy with the title of "bloodsecrator".
>>147517881
My problem with it is it's poor excuse for a setting compared to WarhamFantasy plus it's ugly visual style.
Tabletop guys hate how they got rid of the points system for armies.
>>147517382
Should I really war with Wissenland my man?
They love me
>>147518024
>Tabletop guys hate how they got rid of the points system for armies.
>they got rid of the points system for armies
>they got rid of the points
What the fuck
>>147518015
More trademark friendly? What do you mean?
>>147517881
"Fixes" problems with WHFB by axing the game wholesale, replacing it with a skirmish game with hugely limited miniatures availability, shit new faction and an even more absurd cost per miniature.
>>147517881
Total destruction of previous universe. All the old stuff doesn't matter anymore. Focuses on a new and generic human power armor faction instead of colourful and more believable/relatable fantasy Landsknecht HRE(and world in general).
Also the gameplay is not my thing, but I can have fun with it with friends though I guess.
>>147517881
>What's the problem with Age of Sigmarines?
Other than the lazy cop out of designs taken which make it look like a chinese bootleg of 40K?
Other than the absolutely unlikable reincarnations of some of the key Fantasy special characters?
Other than the shitty setting that doesn't have anywhere near the same appeal as fantasy?
>>147518239
>I can have fun with it with friends
>having fun
>having friends
Fuck off.
>>147518174
Yea, you can field as many units as you have models.
>>147518253
I hope that pic isn't official
>>147518164
Get your ass into Nuln and fuck the countess.
>>147518327
Doesn't that totally break the game to favour the rich?
>>147518253
>Mortuary Factory
A factory that makes mortuaries?
>>147518387
"Yes"
I swear to God if they get rid of the point system in 40k for 8th edition I'm selling everything I have.
>>147518478
That sounds extremely retarded.
>>147518387
so it's basically a "Pay-to-win: The tabletop game"
>>147518546
AHahahahahaha, what are you fucking poor? Just buy more models you stupid goy
>>147518253
>a chinese bootleg of 40K
Holy shit it's a perfect description for AoS
> be ork
> doing ork stuff
> ignore all dwarf factions except the playable one
> march into their lands
> nothing can stop me
> headbutt their king into oblivion
> start sieging the main capital
> suddenly all, literally all, dwarf faction fuse into one giant kingdom surrounding me
> several stacks of armies start showing up at my border
well fuck...seems like i have to get rid of all these armies first. Time for Waaagh
>>147517881
This should explain some complains
>>147518372
Vamp Cunts just declared on my ally.
Can I beat them? How do I beat them?
>>147518573
tbqh, the game became that already, 40k is particularly bad for it, but the realease turnover of fantasy and the power creep and imbalance that brings certainly seemed to accelerate too
>>147518843
Easily. Bring mortars, crossbowmen over handgunners
>>147518843
Now you might be able to confederate if your ally is imperial.
>>147518843
>Vamp Cunts just declared on my ally.
OH MY.
>not removing Stirland has early as possible so that massive saggy cunt Mandred doesn't influence them into ruining fucking everything
REMOVE VAMPIRE
How are VC with the last patch?
>>147519003
Don't sully the name of the ratslayer Emperor
>>147517797
How could they turn something so unique into something so generic
>>147519049
fun, etheral units are good enough to use and invocation of nehek is an iwin button.
>>147519049
as OP as they were before the patch
Seriously, Dwarf/Orc buff when
>>147519148
What about the Black Coach? Heard it was shit before
>>147519228
For dudes whose whole shtick is "holding the line" I discovered than even top dwarf units tend to melt rather fast. Unless I am fucking up somehow.
>>147519381
>Unless I am fucking up somehow.
You're not, Dwarfs are massively underpowered at the moment. All their melee units need massive buffs to armor and health.
>no Flagellants
Why
>>147518174
>More trademark friendly? What do you mean?
Instead of elves, you have Aelves, instead of Orcs you have Orruks, instead of Zombies you have Deathwalkers. Everything has similarly retarded "cool" names.
>>147519542
To not offend the muslims.
>>147519437
Makes sense. I dicked around in custom and even my Ironbreakers would take massive caualties, to subpar enemies like orc boyz and stuff. i dont think I could survive a campaign above hard as them, at least not one I would enjoy.
>>147519049
Buffed
>>147519652
YALLAH MY SULTAN WISHES YOU DEAD
>>147519643
?????
That's dumb.
>>147518351
It is.
All the artwork is similarly kitsch and plastic-like.
>>147519670
>Ironbreakers dying to Orc Boyz
You sure they weren't being buffed with sneaky stabbin or something?
>>147517541
Congratulations, your village has been nominated for the Wild Hunt
>>147519809
No I only had a basic general for both sides and made sure to keep both occupied. So far it seems to me that dwards die way to easily, especially given how much time it takes for their losses to replace. Although I am a bit bad too since I never got those enormous kills with the demigryphs, even before the nerfs
When?
>>147519926
Dont they go of those only to kill beastmen or to gather stuff for their weird spooky living trees? They seem to act like humans dont even exist, unles they get to close to their forest.I still cant wait for them, cmon CA
>>147518351
GW had a sort of mental breakdown in the art department when transitioning to 8th edition. People wanted more color, but in exchange of that we lost everything else.
Compare this map of Athel Loren to this >>147520213
>>147520256
>I still cant wait for them, cmon CA
xmas
>>147520512
That might as well be centuries away.
>>147520256
No it's Orion and his Wild Rider buddies getting crazy for one night of the year (midsummer) and they kill about anything. Sure it's nice to hunt down a warband of Beastmen or a horde of Orcs, but in lack of those Bretonnians are often the prey and sometimes even other Wood Elves
>>147520632
>Im so gay I blow 2 horns at once
What a faggot
>>147517704
Enjoy more room for more thrusting and ramming
>>147520627
Dont think about it too much
Like not thinking about the fact that the first expansion is at least a year and a half if not two years away, and the second expansion wont come out for at least four years
>>147520230
Literally a meme wank bait faction.
>>147520678
>I've sucked so many Beastmen cocks in the camp last night I can't see if it is one horn or twoIt's only one horn. I hope you don't drive without glasses with that vision fAm
>>147520721
>implying armor would have helped with those bolts
Dumb memeposter
>>147520632
Why are wood elves such dicks
>>147520791
Its actually two horns melded together
Please take that semen out of your eyes
This is your reminder that the gods favor the northmen before all others
>>147520925
they are edgy
>>147520949
>the Gods favour those closest to the realms of Chaos
>>147520898
I think those are regular arrows.
>>147521110
Arrows would be longer. They're bolts.
>>147521185
I imagine they're quite deep in her to get the point across.
>>147520956
>tfw people expect noble hippies but will get insane genocidal dickbags instead
>>147521257
Perhaps.
>>147521185
Bolts would be thicker
The artist obviously has no idea how to draw arrows hitting someone properly
>Like VC base units and troops
>Dislike monster focus
>All their base troops are garbage and only really useful for tarpitting
>Only useful non monsters are knights
>Ghost units where shit too (not played since patch)
Damnit.
I just wanted to lead the undead hordes, but the undead hordes are fucking awful.
>>147521356
Weren't they noble hippies in their first book but got edgy in 6th?
>>147520632
It seems wood elves have retard problems in a lot of fantasy settings
>>147521461
Khorne used to be pretty noble too. Look what happened to him.
>>147521461
I dont think the warhammer elves have ever been "noble" compared to elves of other settings. Maybe High Elves are still a bit, but they too are smug dicks.
>>147520230
>Amazons
>living in the jungle
>not living in Troll Country
> Tomb Kings still not announced
Is there a Chaos Faction Ambush mod? I havent seen it yet.
Also has anyone seen GW reaction to the game's popularity and sales? Retcon when?
>>147521432
If you cant win without the monsters you're playing wrong
>>147521719
That would involve them admitting they were wrong. Which will never happen
>>147521719
They only see short run money
>>147521356
It's not genocide to kill different species, it's extermination
>>147521719
>Retcon when?
Retcon what? This takes place before Smegma
>>147521719
>GWS
>giving a shit about anyone
This is the first line of their official business model
>We have a simple strategy at Games Workshop. We make the best fantasy miniatures in the world and sell them globally at a profit and we intend to do this forever.
http://investor.games-workshop.com/our-business-model/
>>147520949
>ywn be transformed into a monstrous beast by the powers of Chaos
>ywn fight for your life in battle and try to stave off insanity
>ywn return to your village in the north and be tended to by your loving wife who still sees the man inside the beast
>>147521701
>tfw
>>147521645
>gold in Troll Country
>>147521432
did you fully tech out the book of arkham?
Oi, the stuntyz are pretty 'ard to krump
>>147521992
Norscans are just cheat engine fags.
>>147521432
>I just wanted to lead the undead hordes, but the undead hordes are fucking awful.
Grave guard are gr8 git gud
>>147520230
>tfw they werent even mentioned in the leak
I just want some warhammer total war in the deep jungles of lustria
>>147521992
>ywn be a Norscan Skald
>ywn sing songs of the old ways and teach your people of the glory of the Old Gods before your people turned to Chaos.
>tfw
>>147522297
New world will probably be an expansion right?
>>147522381
Nope, its not going to be in
Only what we see now on the map + edges of it not yet released
What's the best way to use Pistolier's?
They seem to do such shit damage and they get destroyed by anything
>>147522424
Why would they not add New world?
>>147522480
Shoot armored stuff in the back
I had forgotten just how OP spear wall + unbreakable troops inside a keep is. Can't wait to get gold accuracy Tercios so I can go full Pike and Shot.
Also:
>close
>>147522480
Chase routing units?
>>147522424
>Nope, its not going to be in
That's dumb, source?
Warhammer makes my CPU go ape-shit, it runs hot as fuck.
What can I do to fix this?
>>147522540
Because we have the leaked map and it shows the current map is going to be extended by a minuscule amount to account for new races, but no new continents
Also because; why the fuck would they. You want a handful of factions on the other side of the world where nothing happens? That would be awful. Factions like High Elves will be in, but they will have some sort of bullshit made up lore as to why they've come to the main land.
>>147522571
>>147522480
You don't. They suck balls because they do no damage. Just get outriders instead.
>>147521617
yes, but these are basically just isolationists really likes their forest and don't give a shit of what happens outside of it as long as they and their forest isn't bothered. Then they can ride out and i.e. help Bretonnians fight off Beastmen or something.
The exception to this rule is Wild Riders, young ferocious warriors and hunters who wants to prove themselves and fuck around. They might save a Bretonnian village from Beastmen one day, and kill of all the peasants in said village the next. The Wild Riders don't care, they are just hunting.
There are even reports of Wood Elves, suspectedly Wild Riders, riding in Bretonnian tourneys
>>147522424
Both High Elves and Druchii were slated for release in an expansion in the leak. I don't see how they'd fit them in on the current map.
>>147520230
>pale humans in the jungle
This has to stop
>>147522876
Boats
>>147521749
I can win without them.
The skeltals all just die so fast though.
Grave Guard fall like they are made of tissue paper
>>147522876
>>147522607
>>147522424
>>147522381
'leaked' map
they knew this was in the game files, they hid a bunch of other stuff obviously so i suspect this is hype bait
heres hoping they do it though
>>147522861
>they all get back up
>>147522675
The leak is not a final product. Hell, there's no actual proof that the leak isn't just made up bullshit.
It's Russian, they'll do anything for clickbait. Literally lie, cheat and steal about everything to get a few more rubles.
>>147522365
welp - as long as he's not an ex-member of Cacophonix's band - he's okay by me.
>>147522887
Fag
>>147523097
>It's Russian
Not talking about that, and anyone who thinks that russian shit is real is a moron >>147523095
>>147522887
There are no humans in that jungle naturally. The only others are Empire adventurers and remnants of crusades (as well as some Vampires). High Elves also likes to go to that place.
Why can't they be a mix of those Bretonnian/Empire humans and High Elves, left to wander the jugnles? Why do you have to be such a racist, anon? Jungles != brown skin you retard, look at New Zeeland. Maybe you aren't just a racist, but also a misogynist, hating strong independent women. You are a sad sad man, anon, I feel bad for you having to project your racism on others art and work
>>147516931
Rolling
>>147523097
CA literally acknowledged that it's not fake by saying "wew guys but it's old stuff :^)"
>>147516931
pls not azhag
>>147521432
get the army buffs for your lord, you can boost up the graveguards quite a bit that way, they will still be weak, but adequate
>>147520230
total war waifu edition when? fat vamp tits has an ugly face
>>147523185
That's the only leak of anything related to it. And don't give me "its not public yet ;)" nonsense or whatever. Either you back up what you say, or you shut the fuck up.
>>147523319
Because that's the warhammer map. It can literally not be fake, but it's hardly indicative of what it's going to actually be like.
>>147523407
>That's the only leak of anything related to it.
The fuck are you smoking
This map >>147523095 was taken from the game files at release, it has nothing to do with any leak
Get your facts straight before you post next time
>>147520721
>elf
>plate armor bikini
>getting caught in the open to be shot at
what fucking cuck made this? that's like like showing a ww2 soldier shot and be like omg this cloth uniform wasn't very smart!
>>147523407
>Because that's the warhammer map. It can literally not be fake, but it's hardly indicative of what it's going to actually be like.
Still missing large parts, this seems like a reasonable portion though. Of course it can be fake, the map could show whole Lustria or it could have skipped Lustria altogether
>>147523407
You're confusing the russian leak with the actual gamefiles people found themselves
Totally unrelated, the map is entirely real and does show the future plan + CA stated they want all factions in anyway and the map just adds to that
>>147522901
>it's an entire faction on boats DLC
yeah thats retarded
>Years until Lizardmen
JUST
>>147523406
We don't need waifus, we have Franz.
>>147517881
It literally misses the ENTIRE point of what was good about Warhammer Fantasy.
Warhammer was always silly, but at it's core it is very much a grounded setting, most people in the world live normal lives, scraping to survive in this big scary world that just fucking hates them. And the setting actually allows them to matter, the front and center "Good Guys" faction is composed mostly of ordinary dudes from ordinary villages.
Almost all of the factions, discounting only the Lizardmen and Skaven, are also really easy to understand even if you don't have deep knowledge of fantasy shit. Everyone knows what a Dwarf is, everyone can get the concepts of evil vikings or skeleton egyptians. Everything has names that make it easy to tell what it's supposed to be at a glance.
Meanwhile Age of Smegmar throws all of that out of the window, it's this utterly alien, overly operatic pseudo-sci-fi space adventure where everyone that matters is an immortal demigod that fights eternal battles over abstract concepts. Everything also has retarded donutsteel names that make it impossible to easily understand what anything is because GW would rather alienate consumers than not own the trademarks for everything they produce.
Look at this fucking image.
This is the kind of place where the story of Age of Sigmar takes place.
Fucking. Look. At. It.
Oh come on, this guy doesn't even have a fucking nose, can vampires even get it up?
>>147523779
but he never gives consent
>>147523095
Comparing it with the actual map in the game it's obviously going to be exactly like the map in the game filesduh
Unless they change it around for the next release of course.
>>147523970
>Unless they change it around for the next release of course.
More like if they run out of money for it
>>147523968
Pretty sure vampires can magically make themselves look human
>>147524091
It sold so well and they already said we're going to get more content in the first expansion so I guess they'll have enough moneyfor the first expansion at least
>>147523970
this is probably the area where we will get things before a real expansions.
It has space for:
- Beastmen
- Wood Elves
- Tomb Kangs
- Chaos Dwarfs
- Ogres? Hard to see if it reaches that far
- High Elves? Hard to see if it reaches that far
- maybe more that I can't remember
>>147524223
>It sold so wellit barely outdid rome 2
>>147524170
They do look human and regenerate themselves so the cut nose doesn't make any sense
>>147523970
I felt like the current map in the game is big enough to house another two races, but if they do expand the map to be that large, then I feel like it would lock players aka potential buyers into being cut off from the other races.
I want Tomb Kings too but if I'm locked all the way down south and only have one other race as my enemy as I work my way up, that will be too boring and samey. I want variety. I want to ally with certain factions to gang bang the ones I don't like first.
>>147524281
>it barely outsold the previous most sold TW
Gee, how terible.
>>147524281
>it barely did better than the most hyped game in the series while being a title that goes in a completely new and different direction
>>147524298
Make themselves look more like a nornal living human that is.
>>147524281
>Total War: Warhammer Breaks Franchise Sales Records
>500,000 copies sold in its first few days represents a new franchise record on Steam.
I think it did well
>>147524450
>>147524457
>For a game that was TWO times bigger than Rome 2 in development cost
>barely better than Rome 2 sales
That is blatantly not good enough
>>147524298
Its a cut nose? i thought it was shadows or something
>>147524560
>>For a game that was TWO times bigger than Rome 2 in development cost
Gonna need a source for that
>>147524560
after rome 2 im not in a hurry to buy any new TW games
>>147524646
The chaos shitstorm forum post they did
>>147524669Even when its medieval 3?
>>147524669
Which is too bad considering Attila and Warhammer had amazingly smooth releases and are both really good entries into the series.
>>147524669
Good for you
>>147524669
>punishing a developer for doing the right thing and making the two best TW games of all time
>>147524474
As far as I know they already do look like normal living humans except for the strigois
>>147524717
>>147524771
>>147524820
This is the part where you get called shills for liking games even though they have the AUDACITY to have DLC in them
>>147524690
Source please, Im not digging through the entire world to find this thing.
>>147524669
t. /v/
>>147524924
Feel free to learn how google works, I already gave you the key words
Spoonfeeding baby
>>147524923
Never in my life bought a single DLC for Attila, still one of my favorite Total Wars of all time.
>>147524560
it was 4x more costly than their treasury
whatever the hell that means
>>147525028
You should consider Sand or Charlememe
>>147525028
NO, THAT DOESN'T MATTER, DON'T YOU SEE, THEY'RE OUT TO GET YOU, ONE DAY IT'S FACTION DLC AND THE NEXT DAY THEY'RE TAKING YOUR HOUSE
>>147525094
>ever having treasury above 1k at the end of a turn
>>147525094
Their budget might have been more strict this time. It kinda feels like it.
>>147524969
Feel free to learn how arguments work. If you say something you back it up, and as of now im considering you a failure and a liar.
I found the article anyways, and it says nothing about the development costs of the game.
Go back to grade school.
>>147525118
tfw frugal as fuck. Doesn't the Karl der Große DLC really lack unit variety, be it historical or not?
>>147525094
What it means there is that if they were to include the costs of every race and all the content, then it would have been four times as much as their budget.
The finished game did not cost four times their budget.
>>147525220
They were maybe thinking "What if only people who played warhammer will buy it"
I have the feeling that even if it was just warhammer fans they would throw money at CA until they got everything in it anyway, this seems like an ideal game for people who liked the tabletop. And it will still be cheaper to buy all the DLC there will be for the game than to collect more than one or two armies in tabletop.
>>147525220
Probably this.
GW probably didn't give them any money and SEGA are jewish as fuck, I don't think they gave them a lot of money to work with for a project so unpredictable for them.
I'd love to know the actual background to this, because if that's what happened, CA turned from Rome2 fiasco company back into ASTRONOMICAN TIER BEACON OF LIGHT IN THE GAMES INDUSTRY
>>147525298
Kinda, but there are fewer useless units. Suprisingly a lot of minor faction got unique units. Makes vassalizing more fun. Gotta catch em all.
How hard is very hard?
How do I lower immigration in Attila?
Its really starting to kill my public order. -9 for immigrants.
>>147525756
Very hard.
>>147525756
It's very hard
>>147525782
Max your tax level
All immigrants will be gone in 3 turns
>>147525693
>Gotta catch em all
This is my sole reason for turning enemies into satrapies or client states, especially if they have some unique units likePONTUS
>>147525782
Break off from the EU, remove leftists and build walls.
>>147524281
R2 was there best selling game though, if it outsold that then it did pretty damn good, and it also was the fastest selling game.
>>147525756
Moderately difficult.
>tfw working up to fighting Egypt, the final boss, as Rome in R2
>tfw own all of North Africa west of Libya, all of Spain, all of Italy, most of the Balkans and am expanding more and more into Germania
>tfw power balance bar is still only 1/3rd yellow
Spooked. How hard are they to topple?
>>147526134
>How hard are they to topple?
Not
>pike box + archers
>win
pikes were a mistake
>>147526164
Rome gets pikes?
Playing DeI
>>147526263
go hire some pike mercs
or pikes from a vassal
anon, you need pikes, get a more pikes
>>147526316
but muh fluff
muh legions
>Dragoons
>72 kills in one charge
My dick.
Also defensive battles with deploy-able defenses are fucking GOAT.
>Light infantry placing mines
>Line infantry digging in with trenches
>Howitzers behind the lines shelling the fucking Frogs into the dirt
>Heavy Dragoons getting godly charges off
>>147526372
legions a shit, get pikes
all you need is pikes
>>147525782
>>147525782
>How do I lower immigration in Attila?
what faction? The WRE will always have permanent migration, other factions can lower it by ensuring there is no razing/raiding going on in neighboring provinces
>elves
who cares about those cucks, they should focus on the eastern badlands more
>>147526372
>not going full pike 'n arrow
Rome deserved to die tbqh
>>147526456
WRE, I know they have permanent immigration but theres gotta be some way to reduce it a little?
>>147525867
>>147525916
Ill look into both.
>>147526485
Memes aside, the badlands could use another faction to compete in it aside from just the dwarfs and greenskins
Either Ogre Kingdoms or Tomb Kings could do that job fine
why do I have to build siege equipment at a walled city as VC when I have a vargulf in my army?
>>147526372
>muh fluff
You could get up to 50% auxiliaries, if germanic cavalry is ok why not take pikes if you need them?
>>147526762
because they are inflexible and get shot like american schoolkids.
>>147516931
Memeroll
>>147526672
maybe allow the border princes to take over some clay.
>>147526741
because factions being able to attack a city on a first turn would be really annoying, rome 2 with its free set of ladders that allowed instant siege was disgusting
>>147526413
>>147526538
>>147526762
Nah man, I ain't about that life.
Historical units or bust 2bh. Maybe I'll get a pike or two per army.
>>147527193
Yeah, everything around the inland sea or something. Might give dwarfs and greenskins an excuse to go after them, as well.
>>147527316
get spearmen then, flexible units or bust.
>>147527623
>Marian Legionaries
>not flexible
>>147521701
As if we need more skeleton warriors.
We need the elves before more skeletons and I'm not even an elf guy.
>>147527692
t. an elf guy
>>147527204
well it's not hard to focus fire a vargulf down I supose
>>147527671
>don't have spears
>flexible
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>>147527832
>good against infantry
>good against cavalry
>high endurance
>high durability
>high damage
>good charge
>good anti-charge
the list continues
>>147517881
>>147523915
>>Warhammer was always silly, but at it's core it is very much a grounded setting, most people in the world live normal lives, scraping to survive in this big scary world that just fucking hates them. And the setting actually allows them to matter, the front and center "Good Guys" faction is composed mostly of ordinary dudes from ordinary villages.
For me this is the big issue with Age of Sigmar. Right now the world building is very sparse, and it's hard to get a feel for what the "civilizations" of the various factions are supposed to be like. We're told the Sigmarines are valiant and heroic defenders...but what exactly are they defending, and why should we care about it? There seem to be vague implications of regular humans being protected by the Sigmarines, but their culture and life style at this point has not been elaborated on. It's a good deal less interesting than the plight of ordinary men fighting monsters. Heck. Even the Sphess Muhreens* for all their angel of death spiel are defending an actual concrete society from annihilation.
It's especially egregious since they had such an obvious way to establish the society of Sigmar's realm. Have them be survivors lead by Sigmar himself during the end times lead to a new homeland after the Old World was destroyed. Absolutely wrecking EVERYTHING was rather a waste considering the more heroic fantasy setup they were trying to do with Age of Sigmar.
*Sphess Muhreens also have the benefit of being more culturally diverse/varied than the Sigmarines, who are LITERALLY supposed to be warriors all over the world reincarnated.
>>147527913
>good against cavalry
>can't even chase after them
>african dictator tier loyalty
Marian legionaires are dogshit. Post constantine legions are the patrician choice.
>>147528110
I'm just waiting to get to the final reform if im honest
>>147527193
would b pretty cool, with Lietpold the Black leading a congolmeration of Emperie, Bretonnian and Estalian/Tilean soldiers.
Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
>>147528346
>imperial legionaires
literally the same thing but with meme armor
Ily
>>147528487
>being this much of a post-constantine fanboy
The only fun thing about the late Roman military is the Schola Clibanarii
>>147528106
>wasting time pondering about age of shitmar
>>147528831
nah, late roman legions would rape imperial legions.
The collected great WAAAGH!'s of the united hordes of Greenskins descends upon Akendorf, with the fall of Karaz a Karak and the destruction of independant Dwarfkind (There are still many small city communities within the Border Princes, who provide the base of my rear-guard), the city remains the last bastion of resistance against the Green Tide in the South.
Fearing the fall of the city, Emperor Karl Franz sends General Alberich Wulfhart to break the siege. Grand Prince Eben "Greenbane" van Vonvolkvan decides to march from the city, meeting the Greenskins at the decisive grounds of the Thunder Hills.
Sigmar grant us victory.
