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Old frenemies edition

>Official Website
https://playoverwatch.com

>The Oversheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

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>Wiki
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>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/0HaMLiu7

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Overwatch DPS Sheet
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Reaper a shit
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>>147409726
No. 00 dubs confirm.
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The best thing about competitive is that now when people are trying to be super serious in quick play, you can tell them to go to competitive.
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>>147412218
>not wanting to win every game possible
Uninstall pls
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Who else is /PRIMAL RAGE/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgwuA9uoesA
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are we ever gonna get some new skins
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>>147415064
3 weeks according to leddit/blizz
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>>147416746
thx and upvote @ u my good sir
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>>147409585

>feel pumped
>today's the day I hit skill rating 64
>begin at 63
>give it all I've got
>Back and forth back and forth I de-rank to 58
>13 victories, 23 losses
>mfw
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>Always load almost last
>offensive roles taken
>left to pick either tank or healer

I just want to shoot some people man

Fed up with tanking all the fucking time
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Protect the Bastion on Hanamura is the most cancerous shit
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LINK

NEW

THREADS
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Honest question here why is it so hard for people to grasp the basic concepts of the game. I mean theres a huge area with a mark on it that you are supposed to stand on to capture and stay close to protect. WHY do you feel the need to spawn camp and fail even at that? WHy do you ignore the goddamn cart youre supposed to push its not fucking hard. Seriously these people annoy me more than the hanzo /widow lockers
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>>147418364
>more than one person should be on the payload
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Healer win vs healer loss literally the next game. Explain this please. I have a positive winrate and am consistently losing ranks. I have now lost 12 ranks since placement. This is not working correctly nor is it fair.
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>>147418364
Blizzard didn't design this map with obvious choke points so spawn camping is the best thing :^)
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VALKYRIE MERCY IS TOO CUTE

HNNNNNNG
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>>147418178
Lemme guess, your windows+virtual memory+game is on the same hard disk, right?
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>>147414375
>Lijiang Tower
>joined game in round two
>apparently the team I helped backfill won the last round
>Winston reporting
>enemy Lucio circling the cap point
>I casually aim up to kill him
>earn POTG tazing a Roadhog to death, then leaping into a far corner to taze three more enemies to completion

No monkey business tho.
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>65% win rate in competitive
how long until I fly too close to the sun?
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>>147418478
were they underdogs?
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>>147417904
Torb is amazing, I instalock him in a few scenarios.

Put the turret in a place that covers a lot but can't be seen from the choke, and defend the choke with your amazing gun. If they force you back, your turret will confuse them and you can break the push. If they try to flank, turret will fuck them up and let you know they're there. If you die, just Molten core. If your team dies and you have defend alone, just molten core. And don't forget to pick up scrap so you can give a +75 buff to your entire team AND heal yourself in a pinch.

The other day I actually got the meme POTG of walking back from spawn while my turret molten core's people to death, shit is hilarious.
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>>147418558
No, both teams were average rank 36 on both games.
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Needs slight toning down
Soldier
Pharah
Zarya
Mercy

Needs a rework
Symmetra
Bastion

Needs slight buffing
Mei
McCree

Needs significant buffing
Zenyatta

Balanced
Everybody else
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>>147418510
English pls
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You count for 1 out of 6 people on your team, leaving 5 wild cards that may be shit at the game

The enemy team has 6 wild cards that might be shit

If you're so good, it will average out that you win more games than lose because you're "so good" and can carry

Just get good

;^)
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How do I stop being a healslut
pls
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>>147418456
It moves fastest with three people so yeah, three should be close by as much as possible. No reason to over extend, other than a bit of harassing but most people fuck that up and make it easier to swarm the payload.
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>>147418602

i could understand him. learn to read...
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>>147418586
well you got little but you also lost little
did anyone disconnect on your team or the enemy team?

>>147418612
get good
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>>147418602
Never mind me, just buy a console, they load faster. You are apparently too dumb for a PC.
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>>147418516
I won 8 straight and then lost 6 straight.
I'm afraid to play competitive now.
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Beep boop, son.
Beep boop.
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>>147418592
What needs changed about Pharah, I'm fine with most of the rest by that one seemed off
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>>147418592
>hanzo
>balanced

Literally the only way you contribute with him is if you are a complete god at aiming, it shouldn't be like that

Not even hitboxes can help when you can place cursor near head
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Post your comp stats
So we can compare e-penors and whatnot

I lost all but two of my placement matches but after that when I actually got to play with people of equal rank it's been fast climb, so far enjoying comp more than quick play even with all the leavers and shit.
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>>147418334
Thread was made 3 hours ago famalamalam
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>>147418612
Go black, never go back.
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>>147418563
I got a PotG on Numbani first, defense as Torb a couple days ago.
My entire team was pushed up, got wiped, and I was alone with my turret in the cubby with the 2 doors side by side.
I walked out, got some scrap that was laying around for a whopping 150, then proceeded to Molten Core and shoot a few to death. I was low health, still on molten core, so all I did was just look down and spam armor at my feet to survive long enough for my turret to wipe the team.
Felt GOOD AS FUCK
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>>147418679
>the only way for a fucking sniper to be good is for them to have good aim
I'm not sure if you actually thought about what you were saying, but why the fuck would you make it so a sniper doesn't have to have good aim to be effective
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>>147418586
Why are you playing support at that low rank? All you're doing is polishing turds.

Play DPS or carry tank like Zarya/Roadhog(shit even D.Va would work at this level) and be actually useful.
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>>147409585
me on the left
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>>147418592
I fully agree
thank you anon
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>>147418592

Nono

You can't nerf everything at once. This game relies too much on soft and hard counters. Buffing a soft counter while nerfing an offender might accidentally completely void said offender from the game.

Instead you need to directly identify current issues:
>Tracer stacking to extend overtime
Suggested fix: Rework overtime. Make Tracer spawn with 0 boost stacks to make it harder to reach the objective in time. Buff McCree.

>Mercy tempo rez
Suggested fix: Ult requires LoS and channel time.

>Double winston shitting up every game
Suggested fix: Tesla gun cannot stack.

These are the first things that should be addressed. Then we look at what floats up to the top next and address that in turn.
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>>147418742
>Started using famalam when posting pics people wanted in /owg/
>Seeing it more and more
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>playing with mates from other countries
>i use my horrible english and everyone understands me
Best kind of feel
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What's a good win percentage? Should I play Mercy as much as possible given I have a 58?
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>>147418742
Still should be linked in the previous thread tbhq famalam
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>tfw i've never played genji
>tfw i get his best skin and 150 overcoins in a loot box
>tfw i now have enough for at least 4 legendary skins
>tfw i won't spend anything until level 123 when the exp cap kicks in

overall a good feel

feel with me and post those loot boxes, family
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>>147418831
That's nice but I've been using it long before overwatch
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>2nd placement game
>Now we have someone who refuses to switch from widow.
>He's level 27 and doing nothing as widow at all.
>He refuses to change
>Someone else changes to widow
>We now have 2 widows doing nothing at all.
>Lose the attacking side
>Go onto defence
>They're both still widow
>Enemy team picks 3 winstons
>They all keep jumping on our widows
>the widows still don't change
>we lose again

2 games in a row people have refused to change characters. Does ranked get any better? or should I just quit now. Both of these games have been complete shit. I got 3 golds in game 1 and 4 in game 2.
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>sudden defense gibraltar
>we're holding them off really well the enemy team is practically retarded
>its high noon
>oh no problem i'll just sit in the cover of rein shield
>he takes it down to swing his fucking hammer and mccree gets a 4 man ult
>we lose instantly
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>>147418592
>lucio is balanced
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>>147418874
permanent healslutting is probably best way to raise your winrate

but that would be real boring
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>>147418757
Exactly.

I wouldn't put the turret on ground level though, I feel like your odds are a lot better if you put it on one of the walkway opposite the exits from the flanking corridors.
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>>147418771
What im saying that he requires a lot more effort to be simply equal to others, it should be atleast a bit more rewarding considering how unreliable his ult is
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>>147418891
>2 out 5 legendary skins are got were for Reinhardt
>I never play him
Also I don't get why people like the arab Genji skin so much, it just looks silly to me. Sparrow or Chrome all the way.
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>>147418893
Nice, never seen it before, then again I browsed /fit/ and way way before that /b/ so.
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>>147418831
senpai is censored so people say famalam instead
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>me ooga
>team booga
>forced 50
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>>147418921
it's terrible because you're completely at the Mercy of your team mates
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>>147418679
hanzo's problem is integral to the game and its magnet hitboxes

you can't buff him without nerfing the hitboxes but the hitboxes being like that is because of the game's engine
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>>147418592
>Needs significant buffing
>Zenyatta


I think he should fall under the rework category. He does so much fucking dmg for a support class if the player is any good but he's also the squishiest shitter in the game

I just don't think you could buff him in any way without toning back his damage output
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>>147418901
Placement matches are shit
for me it immediately got better as soon as I was done with those.

Idk but in placement I was playing with handicapped monkeys or something, exactly same behavior. No changing classes, no communication, instalock genji / widow / hanzo while being bad with those, ragequitters etc.

I got placed something rank 40 but even there it was immediatly better, now at 50+ its much better games all around, just suffer the placements anon and work from there
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>>147418921
I don't pay particular attention to winrate usually but I was wondering what is considered 'good', my overall record is exactly 164/164 and I usually main Genji who's win rate is 48.7%...starting to use Zarya and realising how fun she is tho.
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>>147418874
>25% Zarya
>50% Lucio
Literally how.
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post fastest win.
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>enemy team has two Symmetras
>every flank just melts you
>100% teleporter up time
>hitting the turrets with Roadhogs weapon is impossible
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>>147418901
Just keep playing ranked if you don't care about the rank, atleast you'll move towards golden guns

>>147418991
I'd suggest a change to his ult but it's probably not gonna happen with all the lore and shit
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>>147418963
Yeah could be I missed when people switched over, used to be they would just go with senpai.Still made me smile at first, which is slightly worry some since this is just a Buddhist monk mediation pose forum.
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>>147419027
Why is it always Anubis anyway?
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>>147418950
>Also I don't get why people like the arab Genji skin so much, it just looks silly to me
>while your playing a cyborg ninja that possesses a dragon which he solely uses for his katana who has a brother that also wields two dragon and shoot them as photon constructs

Maybe take a step back from what the fuck you're actually playing, m8
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>>147419034
>and no one changes to junk / pharah where one rocket / grenade would clear all turrets

Everytime
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>>147418993

>Discord orb should ignore barrier abilities.
>Transcendence should put a discord orb on everyone within its range when it activates.

There, fixed Zenyatta
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>>147418950
>Sparrow
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>>147419087
Except you forgot the literal source of his problem

He's too squishy
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>>147418697
>junkrat

I have mixed feelings for him. He's an easy class for shitters and but also very good in the right hands. All my highest damage / kill games are just from lobbing grenades everywhere with next to no aiming
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>>147419087
Nah
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>>147419076
How's that even relevant to how a skin looks, obviously the game doesn't exactly take itself seriously, but that doesn't change the fact that some skins look sillier than others.
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>>147418991

The hitboxes are honestly not that terrible (my most played is McCree and you can tell they are mostly faithful).

The problem is that Hanzo shoots literal cardboard boxes at people.
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>>147418364
I DON'T KNOW. I was JUST playing king's row as lucio, we made an excellent push past the first checkpoint, and right in that little street before the 2 turns into the building, the whole team decides they want to rush ahead and get kills - and leave just the lucio on the payload.

What happens? They all get murked (as they are practically fighting in front of their spawn), and then I get murked. Then the jump ontop of the payload, and do a cheese setup of bastion, reinhartd and mercy ontop the payload and chese threw 1:30 of our time, until we can make the checkpoint.

1:30, lost, just because they wanted some elims.

Overwatch is reason enough of why some people shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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>>147419027
>entire team just clicks
>everybody leaves

>>147419073
because of the way it's designed, it's very hard to bust open but it's also extremely hard for defenders to clear once attackers finally get a foothold

so when the game goes:

attacking team breaks first defense
curbstomps everybody at point A
six man rushes point B all with ults charged
pops all ults to clear point

then the defense literally cannot do anything to stop it
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>>147418364
>WHY do you feel the need to spawn camp

There are some heroes that are meant to disrupt the enemy team (Tracer, Genji, D.Va) so the ones escorting the payload can do so safely.
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>>147419124
dumb frogposter
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>>147419034
Stop playing Genji and leave him to people who have watched every episode of Naruto like me
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>>147419154
Yeah and it's just arabian themed. The middle east still exists in this world it's not too farfetched.
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>>147418592
>D.Va
>Balanced
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>>147419161
hitscan hitboxes are fine but projectile hitboxes are insanely busted. mercy's weapon basically magnetizes itself to heads. it's just more noticeable with hanzo because you see an arrow fly past you and suddenly you're dead because lolheadshot

i like hanzo but i hate the spamzo playstyle, i'd give anything for him to get trimmed down hitboxes and more utility or more mobility
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>>147419120

Zenyatta isn't significantly more vulnerable than Mercy since his range is better and he can actually defend himself.

The problem is that he gets hardcountered by Reinhardt shield and Winston bubble.
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>>147419027
>that terrible defensive comp

good thing they were clearly retards.
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>>147418830
How about removing hero stacks, or at most 2 copies of the same hero?

Hero stacking completely defeats the purpose of hero diversity.
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>destiny is r56
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>>147419087
lmao that would make him ridiculous
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>>147419210

Yeah- The game uses the same hitbox model for characters. It's just that the projectile hitboxes are fuckhueg.
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>>147419076
I like Scimitars and I like the gold/white theme. I own all the gold/white skins actually.

If the helmet wasn't so silly I'd like it even more. Oh and the garterbelt.

On the other hand I don't understand why people use this one
>>147419193

The Katana is really ugly, it just looks pretty bad overall.
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>>147418652
>just won another one
Tigole is going to punish me for my hubris
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>>147419210
>hitscan
>ever being fine

its not 1993 anymore carmack
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>>147418891
>1488x837

J U S T
U
S
T
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>>147419073
cause cp maps are dogshit and prone to massive snowballing
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>>147419256
>watching grown men play video games

hello cucked reddit faggot
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>>147419218
Zenyatta has huge hitbox and he can't fly away from danger unlike mercy or run away like lucio PLUS he is slow as fuck

Having able to place discord through shields will do nothing since you have to chew through it anyways

You could always try to make his balls go through the bubbles and do halved damage to it and heroes idk how that would fit in though
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>>147419261

Lucio and Mercy are already ridiculous. All I'm asking for is a bit of consistency in support power level.
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>>147419285
Sparrow Genji is the best skin in the game, looks so cool
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When is Ana Amari releasing? The lack of hot milfs in TF2 Waifu Edition is discouraging.

>>147419295
Still cheapest and close enough.
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>>147418697
I'll bite
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>>147419307
my laptop GPU shit itself and i'm playing with integrated graphics since it's gonna take me a few weeks to build an actual PC

chill, sperg
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How the hell is genji balance ?

His shuriken and dash hurt like a truck at every range, his deflect last year, his as hard to kill as tank because of his small hitbox/ his mobility and his ultimate is a guaranted potg.

Why in every game the japan samourai shit is always a fucking mess.
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>>147419170
yes but sticking outside their door is retarded. They kill you and youre back wherever you spawned from, you kill them and they just lose 6 seconds. Makes no sense
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>>147419124
He is by far my favourite.
Yeah you can play Junk and just run around spamming with no aim, it works decent enough. Basic junk is ez to play

Then when you really know where and when to flank, where to place traps, get good at predicting enemy movements so you can start suppressing the right spot with grenades, blowing charging reinhards with C4 up to the air, deleting 200hp classes with grenade + c4 in a second.

Lots and lots of small things to art of junking and timing / knowing the maps is critical to him
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>>147419334

>Having able to place discord through shields will do nothing since you have to chew through it anyways

Flankers such as Tracer/Genji and sometimes also Pharah/Reaper can get past barriers. The problem is that Zenyatta can't support them when they do and you are basically waiting for the fight to be won before you can get out any discord orbs.
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>start with nomad Genji
>end up buying Carbon Fiber
>get bored of Carbon Fiber and actually end up using Chrome

Why are most 250 skins better than legendaries?
Also if Chrome had red details it'd be the GOAT skin.
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>>147419389
You are in a serious need of getting good mate.
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>>147419239
you should be able to have only one twin pair so that it doesn't end up 2 winstons/lucio's/tracers

>>147419210

Less arrows hit and more mobility would make hanzo useless, he can already get almost everywhere and charging takes hours so you're basically standing still already

You could make him charge faster or give some sort of weird AoE damage on sonic arrow
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>>147419285
I hate the way young Genji's colour scheme is, just looks weird to me. Also no that big a fan of gold, desert ones look alright to me but I just prefer the simpler one of Sparrow.Used to hate Genji cause I always got the one that did fuck all, now I can't stop playing him in QP, getting POTGs and gold or silver in everything but healing most games.
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>>147419340
>Sparrow Genji is the best skin in the game, looks so cool
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>>147419326
Should I watch your mom's BLACKED compilation instead? :^)
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>>147419334
if he healed more that would be good enough

his charge is also super gimmicky but whatever
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Anyone else hate Junkrats? And no, I don't mean a regular player who selects Junkrat because they think area denial would help their team camp.

No, the lazy faggots who instalock junkrat and every game mode and then sit outside corners/doorways and just spam LMB. It's a split between them on Hanzos as the most hated people to see in the killcam. No fucking skill.

>Intense battle w/ Tracer
>Think tracer got the one up on you
>"Damn that tracers good"
>Watch killlcam
>It was a junkrat/hanzo from 100mi away.
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>>147419389
His deflect needs to not make him immune to melee attack, it negates all counterplay and doesn't make sense thematically
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>>147419389
Fucker you better shut the fuck up aboutt Mitsurugi from Soul Calibur, Baiken from Guilty Gear and most of the cast of Sengoku Basara
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>>147418629
I lost more than I gained. Nobody disconnected.
>>147418786
It is more useful to have a healer when your opponent also has a healer.
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>>147419336
nah he'd be a guarenteed pick on every non koth map cause rein would be completely useless
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Which reaper highlight intro?

I have his origins skin so you can see his SUPER DETAILED FACE
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>>147419236

They started out with a mercy and reinhardt, but the mercy changed to bastion and reinhardt to mcCree. Still retarded though.
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>>147419443
1 arrow gives 18% ult charge, me as a shit hanzo get 4-10 ults depending on if they run reinhardt or not

how does charging take hours unless you miss every arrow?
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>>147419389
He has a ton of counters and soft counters, which makes him balanced.

But they really need to make it more difficult to get potg as him, basically getting 3 kills with his ult is almost always enough, and that's just dumb.
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Why do tryhard Widowmakers blame their team for not supporting them when they lose instead of the fact that the enemy adjusted classes enough to make them worthless while they stood back and tried to 360noscope all game?
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>>147419493
Death Blossom.
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>>147419493
throat slice
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>>147419454
Yeah his charge has to go, it's completely useless unless the target is standing still

What if he could orb himself for the heal and some additional hp boost

>>147419506
I meant arrow charge time
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>>147419389
The only thing that is keeping the balanced cyber ninja from getting gutted is current tank meta.
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>>147419464

Fucking this.

Useless Junkrats have lost me a majority of my comp games, jesus.

They just m1 all day, never manage to build ult and never get on the fucking objective. They don't even fucking try to actively engage enemies.
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>>147412218
And then when they want to win in competitive, you can tell them, "It's just a game, bro."
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>>147419417
>deleting 200hp classes with grenade + c4 in a second

This is why I don't care for him much anymore. He just feels cheesy even when I'm the one playing him. Other classes I feel like I gotta work for good dmg / kills but with junkrat it's just autopilot ez
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>>147419256
>decide to tune in because you mentioned him and haven't seen him since the destiny days
>he tells some view to kill himself because he's uninformed and goes on some gambling rant

holy shit he hasn't changed
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>>147419481
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>>147419568
lmao shitter
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>>147419485

So then every lineup would be Mercy+Zenyatta+Lucio triple support?

Cool.
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>>147419472
>His deflect needs to not make him immune to melee attack

It only blocks Rein and MadMonkey melee because their hitboxes are so large. Also he can't block energy(Zarya beam, Monkey lightning gun, Mei snowcone make) nor explosions (Pharah missile splash, Junkrat 'nade splash, concussive mine early detotnation)
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>>147419568
Are you retarded? Like actually?
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>>147419464
I instalock Junkrat from time to time regardless of mode but I never camp as him.

I like to go rambo and 1shot offense babies with LMB+mine combo.
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>>147419514
I'll admit it's really easy due to how much damage it can put out in a wipe sweep. I feel way better when it's me deflecting and then shurikining+dashing a couple people.
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>>147419614
people would probably replace mercy with him
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>>147419389
Winston.

Like Winston will destroy a Genji's day.
Genji is kunai-ing you from afar?
Winston shield.
Genji deflecting shit?
Winston lightning gun.
Genji escaping?
Winston jumps across the map towards him.

Winston was made for light, mobile close quarter combat classes like Genji and Tracer.
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How do I get golds as Mercy? Even if I switch to blaster and help kill people, I still just get gold healing/objective.
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>get 4 man rein ult
>o boy here we go
>wind up hammer
>giant blue wall then takes over my screen
>Sorry sorry...sorry...
REMOVE FAT
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>>147419620
I'm pretty sure it also blocks quick melee attacks
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>>147419565
I don't actually watch him. Just saw his rating in the title because he's in the top 5 OW streams.
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>>147419656

>Replacing the #1 hot garbo bitch of game deciding rezzes

Yeah nah.
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>>147419568
Top bar shows 1 level while bottom bar shows two so top bar shown shit is actually smaller
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>>147419389
>genji flanks you and chips away at you a little bit
>fire 1 shot
>he throws up deflect
>2nd shot gets deflected back at you because of 20 tickrate
>have to completely cuck yourself and stop attacking while waiting for him to wait out of drop the deflect
>throws a shuriken as he drops deflect
>you're on 10% health
>he dashes through and kills you

1v1ing genji is annoying as fuck and it's all because his deflection is stupid retarded
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>>147419427

>mfw i first discovered that Carbon Fiber was a popular skin

The color combination sucks huge dicks on his ninja armor. Black + dark blue can work on some stuff, but not on that.

It's the same shit with the kebab skins. Full white is garbage and white + blue is kinda bad. Also mfw i noticed he wears a fucking garterbelt. Who the fucking thought that was ok ?!
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>>147419526
Because how dare you think someone should counter pick instead of playing their main.
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>>147419698
you don't need resses because taking spots if FREE with sound barrier followed by pass into the anus with endless healing and everyone taking 50% more damage
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>>147419664
>How do I get golds as Mercy?
>I still just get gold healing/objective.

looks like you just answered your own question, breh
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>hanzo genji mainers on koth
>plays hanzo and genji all 3 rounds
>criticize their choices
>IM TRYING TO HAVE FUN ITS A GAME

were they lolbabs or something this guy broke down quick
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>>147419563
Absolutely, I feel pretty dirty when playing Junk because unless someone gets a decent jump and chunk on me, they will get blown up as soon as the first grenade connects and the C4 follows split second after. There is no way to counter it really.

Most offense classes though eat junk alive pretty easy unless you really manage to get the first grenade to connect before they get major damage out.

I wouldn't mind C4 getting a damage nerf / changed just to concussive grenade or something as the thing hurts, and it's insanely good to finish pesky tracers or genjis, even drop Pharahs from air every now and then
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>>147419736

So in other words, Zenyatta would be able to actually do his job?

Isn't that was buffing is about?
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Is Roadhog OP?
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>>147419493
Executioner.
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>>147419664
You don't. Don't worry, getting medals doesn't actually matter, just your performance versus other mercy players. Otherwise rank 80 would be only soldier players.
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>>147419774
you can buff heroes without overbuffing
you should probably get a job with your buff/nerf philosophy though
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>>147419689
haven't watched him in a few years, seems like he's gotten angrier, you ain't missing much
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>>147419740
But Genji is amazing on most koth maps?
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>>147419550
nah there is no point in self orb and even though it sucks the charge is whatever

no point of making him tough right now his strength are

good damage
decent ult
good acuracy
helps kill annoying tanks

weaknesses

he is the most squishy hero
he heals for FUCK ALL literally a bandage

if his heal was just a little faster you would feel much better and play better
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>>147419779
no
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>>147419568
>rank 34
how?
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>>147419779
balanced
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>>147419726
>Based Julius
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>>147419779
No, hes easily countered by the 3 other tanks.
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>>147419464

If you die to Junkrat's slower than a snail projectiles then you fully deserve it, same if you try to fuck his shit up with a 200hp hero in a 2x2 room.

Hanzo is full retard and even his kit is designed around that

>log arrows
>wallhack so you can lock the narrow path even harder
>ricochet arrow so you can FUCKING OUTPLAY people
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Buff her
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>>147419753
I'd be okay with C4 staying the same but nerf trap damage and grenade dmg just a bit. It's pretty funny when you set a trap somewhere and a minute later you actually get a killing blow off it out of nowhere
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>>147419876
why
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>career Hanzo saying Zenyatta is the worst class in the game
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>>147419779
What is Roadhog doing in France ?
also map in france when ?
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>>147419876
But she has a 55% win rate. No point balancing around pro play until they remove hero stacking either.
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>yelled at for being shit lucio
How do I get better?
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>>147419910
Clearly hes seeking out ice cream.
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>>147419910
The better question is what ISN'T he doing in france
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>>147419779
nah but he's finally useful after the mcree nerf
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>People never group up around me for ult or healing
>I need healing!
>NEED HEALING
And this is why I never play support in competitive
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>>147419919
How can you even be a bad Lucio

like all you have to do is hide behind teammates and press e every 10 seconds. You won't die unless you're surrounded by like 4 people with no backup
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>>147419919
>heal song +4
you seem to be doing fine
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>>147419907
Zenyattas worse because he tricks the rest of the team into thinking we dont need a real healer.
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>>147419726
I actually like carbon fiber, it looks quite sleek.
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>>147419808
>>147419825
>>147419848
>>147419964
he got a 1shot combo with a broken hitbox.
how is he balanced?
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>>147419917
>balancing around "pro" play at all
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>>147419971
was meant for
>>147419919
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>>147418697
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>>147420021
git gud
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>get ranked at 44
>now 56
>it's not fucking stopping
I guess I undercalibrated really badly. I kind of feel like I'm being carried every game though, I don't know how I keep winning.
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>>147420021
Because he's designed around it ?
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>>147420060
literally how are you climbing
i cant manage it
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>>147420021
Nerfing the Hog right now would be a pants on head retarded move since his hard counter Zarya is currently like the most picked up character in the meta.
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>>147419876
>can't headshot her mech anymore

problem fixed
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>>147420047
Riku plz, you name is written in CAPS over your stats. No need to erase the name card.
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>>147420021
Don't get hooked, you lagging cunt.
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>>147419983
A good lucio will jump around like a madman harrassing people with bad aim

it's pretty fun to infinitely 1v1 a tracer because she can't outdamage my heal and I can't kill her before she recalls back to a health pack, while juking her ults
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>>147419493
Teleport.
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>>147419919
>0 Offensive assists

Nigga Speed Aura:Amp up when everybody around you is 75% or higher and or when people need to bounce. When teammates are ulting but you don't wantt to do it when Pharah is ulting for obvious reasons.

Ults 2 speed boost: Whole Hog, Death Blossom, Tactical Visor, Graviton Surge

Also speed boost Reinhardt's charge to the enemy has less reaction time to get out of the way.
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I was just playing with someone that kept playing tracer and s76, he melted everyone in seconds he legit fucked me up as roadhog as a tracer in no time, doing insane amounts of damage.

On kill cam I noticed he was hitting most, if not all headshots even when being supper jittery and jumping around all over the place, also seemed to know where people were.

He was level 17

What are the chances of him using those newish aimbots because that was legit disgusting.
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>>147420123
oh
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>>147420097
>Default crosshair
>Didn't just ult the turret
>Didn't recall to heal
Umm
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>be dva
>tracer sticks me and phases away
>i calculate her position based on the last few seconds and boost there
>boom
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>>147420060
>I guess I undercalibrated really badly.
No, you're just lucky with teams. 40-60 is a black hole of competitive, playerbase there is the same as in QP, so your win/loss in solo or stack of 2-3 depends on how lucky uou are with team, not your personal performance.
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>>147420097
I dunno man. I just pick heroes I think the team needs like Zarya, Lucio, Mercy, Reaper, Reinhardt. I never get lots of medals or anything. I'm pretty vocal in calling out enemy positions and requesting composition switches, maybe that's making the difference
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>>147419876
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>>147420047
retard
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>>147419464
I agree, he's too easy to play for how powerful he is and it's mainly because his LMB
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>Mercy pocketing someone in the middle of a gunfight
>Have 23 health
>I NEED HEALING
>"I can't heal you if you're behind a wall"

no shit I'm behind a wall, I'm trying to get healed and not die. LSHIFT your ass over here
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>>147419810
I play mostly support. As support you gain less for wins and lose more for losses than any other role. That, combined with several games where team members disconnected, the KOTH bug before it was patched, and a few genuine losses.
>>
M A D A
A
D
A
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>>147420128
>30ping
is not lag you stupid nigger
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>>147420116
If hogs counter is in every game but he's still strong, doesn't that imply he's overpowered and will be grossly overpowered if zarya is nerfed without him being changed?
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So... what ethnicity is Reaper/Gabriel Reyes? Some sort of Hispanic, or is he black?

Reaper is a pale bastard, but Gabe is pretty dark skinned?
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>>147420196
just for you, friend
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Well. 54 to 64 to 54.

Solo Q really is a fucking wildride. I've been keeping tabs too. Here's an interesting little fact list.

>100 games played
>55 won
>45 lost
>I have NEVER won in ranked when a Genji has been on the team, there was a time we were up 2-0 on Lijang about to get overtime victory on 3rd and we ended up tanking 3 rounds on the bounce, guess what, a level 27 newshitter switched off Lucio to Genji
>I have won just 2/55 with Bastion on the team
>I have registered 15/55 of my WINS with 5 Gold Medals
>30 of my 45 losses I had 3 or more golds
>ALL of my losses I had 3 or more medals
>87/100 games I have had gold OBJ time.

Why does matchmaking see fit to put me with people who don't know how to play? Why didn't Blizzard seriously raise the cap for entry to Comp? It feels like I'm a teacher herding children through the Bronx.
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>>147420174
yeah that's not d'va being shit

it's hanzo's scatter cancer being broken
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>>147420141
I tried, we lost
Just like every game unless we steamroll or the other team quits
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>>147420174
>drops mech before a hero that is capable of one-shotting tanks
>LMAO BUFFS WHEN xD
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>>147418697
I'm on the road to rank 60!
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>>147420210
She can't LSHIFT her ass if you are behind a wall.
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>>147420247
He's a dark skinned hispanic.

It's not that rare.
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god fucking damn I hate fucking winston SO FUCKING MUCH

I WANT TO PLAY SOMEBODY THAT ISNT REAPER FOR ONCE IN MY LIFE BUT I CANT BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT THEIR FREE WINS SO THEY PICK LE EBIN CANCERGORILLA
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>>147420247
His becoming pale is probably tied to whatever procedure Mercy put him through.
Nanomachines are fucked like that.
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>>147420247
Hes mexican
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>>147420210
>staying behind a wall in the middle of a fight being useless instead of fighting and getting rezed by mercy at full health
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>>147420174
>wow this hero is so bad, there was nothing I could do!
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>>147420247
>Some sort of Hispanic, or is he black?

Not mutually exclusive

But yes he is obviously some sort of Hispanic with the name "Reyes"
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>>147420269
see: >>147418980
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>>147420174
>standing still
>dying to sniper
>BUFFS WHEN

in these 9 seconds alone we have seen that dva's died twice yet still running around shooting

dva needs maybe a slight damage boost on mech form. thats it
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>>147420284
This is your curse.
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>>147420284
>not picking Asphaltswine and molesting not only their niggemonkies but also their Tracers, Lucios and more
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>>147420232
With a good Zarya on your team Hog might aswell switch since she completely neuters him.
If you let him just run rampant than yeah he seems OP but hes actually very easy to counter and if his hook misses hes out of the fight till its off CD.
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>>147420289
Reaper origin lorevid when?
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>>147420284
get good
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>>147420272
My new home

Don't worry he switched to a junkrat
we have 3 now
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>>147419779
depends on his teammates desu

>tfw enemy team has Roadhog, zarya, mercy, lucio, and 76

he's so fucking strong on a stacked up comp
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what do you pick when you are attacking against a full team of torbj?
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is fan the hammer even useful now?
did blizzard go too far?
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>>147420210
>hides behind the wall away from actual combat
>WHY IS NO ONE HEALING ME
Because you're a moron.
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>>147420247
Reaper's not pale, even his cute skin shows his dark skinned forearms. Also he's obviously hispanic he even comes from LA. There's rumors we'll get an LA map because two datamined viocelines from Reaper are

>Home sweet home.
>this city hasn't been the same since they cleaned up the smog
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was there a patch within the last 3 weeks

pls tell me mcskill got nerfed
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How do I defeat robots in training area? They keep killing me
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>>147420284
>Spot the tracer/widow shitter
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>>147420360
Pharah, demand a pocket Mercy
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>>147420360
rein, junkrat, pharah but stand behind rein don't fly up and instantly die
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>>147420360
6 Skillmaus.
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>>147420280
She can walk though. It was right behind her. There's like no point in me going toward her because I'd have just died

>>147420284
Reaper, Roadhog, and Zenyatta are amazing versus him. Junkrat's pretty good too.
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>>147420329
>trap-mine combo demolishing 80% of heroes
>spam the rest

I love this fucking guy.
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>>147420382
nah, still op
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>>147420360
more doubles of anything requires at least 1 other teammate change his role

there is literally nothing you alone can do against a team that coordinates anything. if there were, the hero that could do it would be nerfed. this is why people cried about widow and mccree and now cry about zarya
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>>147420210
She can't fucking go through a wall to get your retarded ass, especially in the middle of a fight when other people are actually being useful and fighting.
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>>147420402
>>147420350
are you guys actually this stupid or just unable to read
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