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>>147240945
make it happen capcom
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Daily reminder that sfv is shit.
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>>147240945
i wanna fuck ingrid
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>want to play Balrog
>but also want to get Birdie to Platinum first
life is pain
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twitch tv /pr_balrog/profile
balrog tech giveaway
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Reminder that Ingrid will save SFV. Season 2 will be a guaranteed success as the first reveal is the full glory of Ingrid.
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Juri I need you this month
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>>147240289
you aren't fooling anyone lili
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>>147240945
snifftacular
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How can west stop japs from winning? They destroyed west at CEO once again and Kazunoko even picked Raven which wasn't arcade character and still won easily. Why America is so shit at fighting games?
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Can anyone explain how Juri works? Why does she require you to 'power up' or 'stock' her special moves before you can actually do them?

Why cant you just use them? what is this useful for? Why is it like this?

This is new to me. Anyone explain?
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>>147241081
if you want memes just abuse the fact that most people can't react to mixups between vskill overhead, vskill throw, and low rush punch

or deal with ex rush being + on block
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>>147240508
I get something similar but I don't get a negative response. In fact I only get it during close intense matches. It's like my fight or flight senses get activated and I'm running on adrenaline. I actually quite like the feeling.

I hope your situation improves anon
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>>147241162
>season 2
Won't happening.
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>>147241162
But the superior ojou-sama is already in the game.
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>>147241197
How the fuck did he even get hit by that 5k, literally just block on wakeup holy shit
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>>147241209
it's called a store mechanic, it's there for balancing.

In SF4 you actually had to hold down the button too and release to do the attack.
>>147241245
Yes, I'm working on it, thanks anon
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>>147240907

Maybe a psychiatrist could help you out? The best of luck to you though, shit is nasty.
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>>147241253
Ingrid is not an ojou-sama character and never have been. The only thing the two have in common is slight similarities in their outfits, and the fact that both embody seperate tropes that are frequently used in anime and such.
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>>147241197

america isn't bad at kof actually.
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What the fuck am i supposed to do with balrog?
I kinda want to switch to ken since hes op as fuck, just like in every street fighter ever.
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>>147241209
In SF4 you could store your fireballs for as long as you held down the button and you could store 3 at once.

However, it seems to make her "better" they took the store idea but now she only has the low fireball and two new moves for mk and hk and you have to do the motion again after storing them to use it.

I think it ties into her FSE being able to link all three in a combo but not sure the design philosophy on her SFV version
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>>147241209
I think of her SFV iteration as a rekka character with the rekkas behind a store function instead of v-trigger like karin
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>>147241307
They also both have the cammy sameface.
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>>147241197
Just wait until next year so BBCF can be put in the EVO lineup. SKD will body all those japanese players free.
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All that talk from Jebailey but he isn't actually going to do anything lol
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God dammit what is even the point of having v-reversals in the game instead of just making them moves?
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>>147241337
what the fuck is a rekka?
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>>147241403
He might actually get killed if he does. Some smash autist is going to go on a shooting spree.
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>>147241432
>what's the point of guard cancels
umm lol?
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reminder SMASH WILL BTFO YOU ALL at evo...
just FUCKING wait...
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>>147241551
>will blow the fuck out you
wow
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>>147241432
wat
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>>147241280
Fausts have no idea how to block.
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>>147241403
>>147241539
what did he say?
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>people think Geif is bad
>gorilla damage
>just be fucking patient and you win
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>>147241542

*shitty guard cancels that are useless for most characters
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>>147241743
every single person except stupendous thinks gief sucks but anon knows better
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>>147241474
fei long has one, poison has one.

quartercircle-punch >quartercircle-punch >quartercircle-punch

3 hits in succession comboing together.

Balrogs new V-trigger is like a rekka if youve seen that.
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>>147241735
Calling out Melee player/community entitlement over the course of like 20 tweets.
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is melee finally done for? Did they get too big for their own good?
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Convince me not to get this.
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>>147241656

>this is that smug fucker from dustlopp

lmaooooooooooooooo
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>>147241551
Smash shouldnt even be a thing at EVO

If you want to see a grand final smash game just go to some kids 12th birthday party
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>>147241973
No breasts.
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from twitch chat:
balrog is like a really shitty mika
w a t
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>>147241945
evo isn't even that "big" for smashfags. They're just there for the "prestige"
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>>147241973
buy that and your a fag
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>>147241251
It's already confirmed though.
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>>147242004
>rkappa kids still this buttblasted
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>>147241794
t. bronze player
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Does anyone know that Saturday finals lineup for Evo?
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>>147242007
lol

Well Balrog is more like a better Vega
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>>147242007
>Having twitch chat enabled
>Ever
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>>147241973
it's only $20
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>>147241743
I main Geif and I don't get it, I ge so much damage off of throw/meaty it's rediculous. I play like every other character but get rewarded twice as much. It's not even hard to get in except for Dhalsim in this game.
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>>147242123
no
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>>147241973
If you buy that you'll forever be upset you'll never have a mika plush to go with your pika plush
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>>147241973

it's a girl.
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>>147242056
Sure it is.
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>>147242040
But Evo 2016 is the biggest smash tournament...
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>>147241802
Gief is gud though (mid tier), I agree wit anon.
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>>147241794
Also several of them are just moves that were taken from previous games because capcom was too lazy to design new moves, most v-skills are worthless too
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how do I make my opponents stop pressing buttons when I play balrog?
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>>147242123
How could a spanish ninja be better than a psychomen
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>>147242078

t.non-tourney player
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>srk still ded
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>>147242165
Mika is a shitty slut for retarded muh dick fags like ono.
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SAGAT FOR SEASON 2
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>>147242097
Pokken, KI and Smash 4. Idk the order. Based on entrants it would be KI>Pokken>Sm4sh but its based on who has the most McRib money so Idk
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There is no fucking way I can learn charge characters in online matches

People just taunting me because I cant do anything
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>>147241743
General consensus from top players is that Gief is mid tier or higher.
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Why doesn't cammy have an overhead?
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>>147242007
Balrog is like a really good dhalsim
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>>147242191
It was in an interview linked a few threads ago, they were talking about adding more characters.
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>>147242245
crush counter
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>>147242282
you have to register for the forum to work
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>>147242342
Dhalsim is like a bad necro
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>>147242160
Yes

>Better, faster normals
>Same V-Skill but faster, reaches longer and can convert into more stuff
>Does more damage
>Armor on one EX move
>Invincible CA
>Better V-Reversal

The only thing that Vega has that is better than Balrog is the command grab

If you are a Vega player there is no reason to play Vega other than wanting to play Vega
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>>147241743
Best V-trigger in the game free
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>>147242396
necro is like a good zangief
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do you think kof 14 has a chance to be popular in burgestan?
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>>147242395
oh i never login, thanks m8
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>>147242432
the guy you're replying to is a literal bronzie
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>>147242396
Necro is like a good sakura
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>>147242508
in mexico yeah
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>>147242295
No T7?
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>>147241743
Easiest character for sure
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>>147242295
Tekken 7 is also there. Would be a giant insult to actual players if smash 4 was everything but last game on saturday. It is alread a big insult it is not on sunday.
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>>147242363
They were also talking about making a good game. Whatever happened to that? Or the back and forth schroedingers frames?
Get the fuck out haha
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>>147242651
>gief is easier than birdie
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>>147242432

>playing charge characters
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I cant even get a single hit off as Balrog

Why am I so retarded charge characters are like fucking rocket science
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>>147242651
I agree, Gief too easy.
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>>147242783
>not wanting to play easy mode
lol
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is birdie good against balrog or are all the balrogs im against are shit
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How is Slayer low tier exactly in Xrd? His pressure is amazing, he gets away from shit for free with his dashes and 6p and his damage is sin tier.
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>>147242508

yes, if the netcode is acceptable.
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Why charge characters even exist? Isn't it pure artificial difficulty for no reason?
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>>147242872
cant unga bunga
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>>147242902
charge characters were created for people who sucked cock at execution

"Ohh i see you cant do any input for shit, here, let me swap that for a timing element instead, there you go, now just hold a direction and count to 2 in your head for the input"
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>>147242860
Birdie has better long range normals and Balrog cant just reversal out of any pressure for free like faggot Ryus so its not a terrible matchup for Birdie.
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Bedman is fuffy!
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>>147242902
Well technically motion is too.
Everything that needs an arbitrary input is artifical difficulty.
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>>147243061
>arbitrary
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>>147243049
Isn't he deadman now?
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>>147242875
rip
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>>147243123
yeah lol
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>>147242508
>>147242875
this is pretty much what it boils down to
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What the fuck is a pretzel motion?
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>>147243101
>muhcade legacy
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>tfw there's no a single fighting game for IQ people
>tfw all fighting games are braindead shit for low IQ retards (niggers and spics)
>tfw I can't enjoy anything simpler than angel or maylee now
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>>147243231
Tekken
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>>147243231
its called super smash bros...
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>vs plat/super plat
>when I lose they accept another game/finish the sets
>when I win they kick/leave/stop set
>rarely get plat+ because they usually kick in lobby even if not specifying ranks

defend your egos platiums
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>>147243231
You tried
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artifact on elphelt jd with low PS3 settings
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>>147243150
>tfw sol good end
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>>147243287
they're the same people who say ranks don't matter online but turn around and won't rematch because they can only win 1 point from the game
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>>147240290
Now that's a girl whose parents must be disappointed if I've ever seen one

>>147241280
Ever heard of wild throw?
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>>147243231
Play DOA.
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at this point i dont know if the 8f meme is actually applicable or if its some cognitive bias but so many times block high and still get hit with an overhead after moving my stick to back
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>>147243354
>Win against someone 3-4 ranks above you
>Gain 150 lp
>They didn't rage quit
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>>147243284
>tekkenfaggots delude their game is deep because they call normals specials
>muh 500 movement list where 99% it's normals
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>>147243456
You can't immediately wild throw out of a micro dash.
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>>147243486
it shouldn't be that bad, it might be some additional input delay from your stick or something
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>>147243545
Why do they even have so many moves?
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>>147243506
>match against someone 5 ranks lower
>they know how to play
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>>147243590
maybe, but i havent felt this in any other game yet.
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>training mode monster
>tfw none of this matters because half my combos won't work online because kids will rage quit out of them.
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>>147243545
>normals, specials
please don't use low iq game terminology when you talk about tekken
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>>147243687
What do you call them smartypants?
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>>147243323
tfw for like a year + I was convinced Elphelt used her sniper for j. D

>>147243550
You can't react to it though
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>>147243782
ewgf and ewgf accessories
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Is Ibuki's frame data up somewhere

Right now I just kinda hope its safe whatever im doing
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is our boy sako learning ibuki?
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>>147243798
she should use her shotgun
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>Smart games
>games
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>>147243873
i hope not
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>>147243867
https://twitter.com/TOOLASSlSTED/status/749020203497955329

toolassisted's charts are pretty aids to read compared to traditional though
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>>147243995
WHY IS LOOKING AT PICS ON TWITTER SO FUCKING HARD
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>>147243618
a tekken movelist if they were ryu:
weak punch, mid punch, strong punch, low weak punch, low mid punch, strong low punch, weak kick, mid kick, strong kick, weak low kick, mid low kick, strong low kick, weak areal punch, mid areal punch, strong aereal punch, weak aereal kick, mid aereal kick, strong areal punch, far range weak punch, far range mid punch, far range strong punch, far range weak kick, far range strong punch, far range weak kick, far range mid kick, far range strong kick, dash, block, counter break, focus attack, parry, weak punch weak punch combo, weak punch strong punch combo, weak punch strong punch low strong kick combo.
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>>147244126
right click open in new tab
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>>147243590
t. combofiend
Fix your fucking game.
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>>147243995
>>147244126
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmUN5mGWYAAoaqn.jpg

i should also add that it's not complete
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Just something I noticed in case someone else doesn't know: Ibuki's f.HK goes over fireballs.
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>>147244160
maybe if you bought the season pass I would consider it
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>>147244198
over? does it hop that high?
in sf4 it was f.mk that hopped fireballs
can she still slide under fireballs easily?
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>>147244143
They just put every possible input on the Movelist?,
Kinda neat actually
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>>147244154
I already did it but WHY can't you just click on it to look at it? Why did they think this was a good idea?
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>>147241280
The real question is why did he try going for the unblockable instead of playing lame like he should.
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>>147243231

>low IQ retards

Last time I checked Japan, South Korea and China have the highest average IQ on average. Go back to DOTA, redneck.
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>>147243231
>IQ people
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>>147244282
It really doesn't look like it but it works. Slide works for normal fireballs but f.HK goes over Ryu's CA also, whereas it hits slide. The slide is easier to time though.
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>mfw yuri is toptier
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look you big eared freerf, you take your horny little ass and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey and you find geoffrey
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>>147244319
why do you think half the movelist it's B&B shit?
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>>147243798
>Expecting a Sol not to dash in when he's like five feet away
He should have just blocked desu
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are there any new stage transitions yet?
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>>147241197
kazunoko played sol up until GF didnt he?
also that webm makes me so happy every time
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>>147243231
Uniel is the highest iq game created.
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>>147244436
is it too slow to blow up c.mk fireball from ken or ryu at far range?
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why the fuck did they not give balrog a charge super
capcom and peter:
YOU SUCK
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>>147244507
It's easy to talk when you're not the one playing and you already know the outcome.
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>>147244448
Yuri truly is top tier
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whens evo
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>>147243995
>>147244191
is CH data listed on this because it's kinda hard to read
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>>147244671
How the fuck are you supposed to do a charge super after doing the forward punch/kick follow ups in v-trigger. They're just going the 3S route.
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Juri is so soon, I can feel it
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>>147244798
counterhit is just regular hit+2f
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>>147241656
But Faust has to block more than nearly any character in the game
Please don't bully us because Zinac is retarded
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>>147244832
They could just make them be back punch/kick to hold the charge. I myself like the CA being a motion
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>>147244882
for everything?
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>>147244795
weekend after next
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>>147244832
no idea why the v trigger is forward + punch when it could just be punches and you could keep charge for an overhead reset while doing it
bad design t b h
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>>147244871
She doesn't look that great in SFV desu.
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>>147242991
mashing is way easier than timing
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Anyone else consistently getting "failed to find/upload data" after SFV online matches?
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>>147244935
yes everything except crush counters
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>>147244935
counterhit is always +2 yes.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XB1GW6Lk6yK176Nm8_l3cSxPowWxHfiRRh7qOess77E/edit#gid=217146919
Just compare the hit advantage with the CH advantage on any character.
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>>147244962
I'm pretty confident they will change her around a lot before release, right now her fireball is literally useless
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>>147244993
>>147245006
thanks bruvs
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CHARGE WAS A MISTAKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147244737
Naw I just main Sol. Dash up Wild Throw is downright retarded. Sols 5K is 2 hits, + on block, has a sick hitbox, is his best anti-air and starts up in 3 frames, it's your go to move while dashing.

Dash up wt is only for the strongest of memers or that one jap player who does random DIs.
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>>147245027
I sincerely doubt it. They're probably going to tweak some numbers and visuals at best.
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>>147245027
This is our jive
Street fighter V
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>>147245098
then why isn't she released already
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>>147244962
I feel like she'll be the considered the same as she was in 4. Good but other characters will do what she does better, especially when her fireball game isn't as strong. I haven't been able to test much but I don't think her overhead combos in FSE either.
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>>147244956
it just makes sense. You already start the dash punch where the stick is already in the forward position, then you continue holding forward to do more dash punches. Feels natural and makes sense since Rog is moving forward with each punch. You can still v-skill cancel the follow up punches and go for an overhead reset, which is probably the optimal thing to do since doing the full v-trigger combo does shit damage.
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>>147245105
You won't get more
Street fighter 4
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>>147245260
they changed her a lot and mostly all the good things about her are not-so-great now which is what makes me think she's not as finished as people think.
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>>147244956
>keep charge for an overhead reset
You can cancel the follow ups with v-skill you mong
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>>147245053
Are there people who actually, literally, and unironically can't play charge characters?
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>>147245157
Because they've yet to do said tweaks? Game development takes time. If you think there are going to be drastic changes a month before release you're setting yourself up for huge disappointment.
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>>147245382
>mong
What nationality are you? I thought only my peeps called people mongs.

>mfw birdie says "wanker"
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>>147245278
any charge player will immediately start charging again after the dashpunch P has been input
its just unintuitive
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>>147245484
something like improving her fireball isn't a drastic change you moron, but maybe not, I'll play her regardless since I love her animations and she feels good to control
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>>147245483
Not that person, but I feel very awkward playing charge. During IV, I only liked to play Decapre from the charge characters. It doesn't suit my movement style I guess. Charge ultras/supers/CA feel clumsy as well.
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>>147245483
I just dont fucking understand it

How do you expect me to move around and play neutral but keep my charge
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https://twitter.com/galtu444444/status/748901189400403970

didnt see all that.
decapre is going to be in the next set
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>>147244892
>blocking in a game that's all about gorilla mashing out offense
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>>147245483
I can't answer your question but someone in my local scene refuses to learn motions
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>>147245743
only one person can be gorillamashing on offense at a time

what do you think the other person has to do during that time
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>>147245483
I don't get it either. Charge specials always felt easier to me than a dragon punch motion. I mean it's literally forward, down, down-forward. How do they expect you to go from forward to down without already hitting down-forward? Returning to neutral after the first step always seemed to ruin the natural flow of movement to me.
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>>147245716
I'm gonna miss doing her piano input
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>>147245585
>I can't adapt to not doing something as simple as holding the stick forward instead of back
At least the 8 frames meme has some validity
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Does Ibuki have the shittiest, most uninspired v-skill in the world because her v-trigger is so overpowered?
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>>147242630
>>147242661
I think Tekken wraps up Friday night either that or KI
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>>147244658
Yeah, the startup is too long, though it does seem to be her fastest move for avoiding a fireball.
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>>147245716

God fucking damn it. Does anybody actually like "evil clone" characters? Akuma is enough for me.
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>>147245939
i have adapted already but its stupid since charge characters are about (almost) always holding downback
post cfn and i will fight you
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>>147245820
bust
blowback
super > yrc through block strings
volcanic viper

only characters like zato and millia are going to make you block
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>>147245946
Probably, it's literally Karin. I think it also pushes her bomb significantly further than all her other normals.
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>>147244319
Every move except the default moves everyone has like from running or crouching punch. It gets listed if a character has a special variant or combo from it like King.
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>>147246043
It's actually not literally karin, it has a fireball hitbox.

went through it with balrog's KKB before. so, it's even worse.
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>>147245946
ive rarely used it but when i have i thought to myself its probably her best farthest hitting thing thats not kunai
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AHAHAHAHA
Get fucked consolefags.
Swimsuit laura when?
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>>147245820
>only one person can be gorillamashing on offense at a time

I've seen countless Marvel and Guilty Gear videos where this isn't the case.
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>>147245716
It's literally her Omega mode moveset. Even the throw animations are the same. Hopefully they don't give her the fullscreen invisible fireball.
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>>147245716
Why does everyone asume she's gonna be in?
They just copy pasted her moves from SF4.
Also every doll has custom moves.
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>>147246098
how is this consolefags getting fucked? don't they get tekken 7?
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>>147245946
It gets even more uninspired when you notice that they just copy pasted her SA2
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>>147245027
She will only get worse from here on, just like the rest of the game.
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>>147245948
That's what I heard also, but I really can't remember where.

>>147245946
When they were first talking about the "V-system" I was pretty into it, but the V-skills have been mostly middling or just bad so far. Ibuki's is the worst though.
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>>147246190
It's just a meme since Tekken is no longer console-exclusive so now pc-master race gets it. Some childish bullshit like that.
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>>147246190
console fags get downgraded versions of animae girls
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>>147246206
I doubted Combofiend once before but he delivered, I'm sure I can put my trust in him once again
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What's your game's excuse to not award counterhits during active frames?
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>>147245716
Can't tell if just no budget teleport "animations" or shit netcode.
>>147246190
>pay for online
>no mods
>extremely limited input device choice
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This game needs uniel normals
Imagine a game where normals reached more than 3 inches
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>2-0 the guy I always struggle against at locals
>Get memed on by Mika immediately after and eliminated
Combofiend giveth, and Combofiend taketh away...
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>>147246279
it does tho
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>>147246149
i think its safe to say at this point every sf4 character will have something from their omega mode put into their core gameplay in sf5.

>>147246185
her moves didnt come off all that janky, and she doesnt look like an unfinished blob visually. to put that much work in makes it a decent assumption she will eventually get in. the rest of the dolls only have 1-2 moves while decapre has her omega stuff + cammy normals but thats to be expected of her.
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>>147246236

I just hate how 90% of v-skills are designed to fuck with fireballs rather than have unique applications all their own.

Probably the only interesting v-skill (imo) is Guile's
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>>147246325
You'll improve! I believe in you! c:
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>>147246098
goddamn right
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Anyone knows how to mode urien in sf5? I cant find it anywhere.
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>>147246384
is that me?
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>>147246342
Good, so you don't play kusoj

I am proud of you anon
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juri's big smelly feet
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matchmaking connections actually got worse somehow

un fucking believable
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so they finally gave Karin a slut outfit...fuck you capcom
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Ibuki and story mode = absolute garbage, but balrog has saved SFV for me.
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>>147246526
rare footage of close up combofiend
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>>147246610
>bikini = slut
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did anyone even bother with story mode? i heard nothing is revealed about necalli at all and its mostly about rashid and nash
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>>147246354
Birdie's V-skill is about conditioning the opponent, setups, and building his v-gauge.
Dhalsim's V-skill gives him increased air mobility and more freedom over his floaty jump.
Ken's V-skill is for pressure.
Gief's V-skill helps with projectiles but also sets up his command throws by making safe things, unsafe.
Off the top of my head some unique ones. The projectile ones are like Nash/Karin/Bison/Ibuki/Vega/Balrog.
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>>147246526
Winston as Nash mod when? They both wear glasses and are both unga bunga
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>>147246720
protip : its terrible

skip the scenes, do the battles and collect your FM
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>>147246291
Just stop playing that shit?
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>>147246720
i stopped after 15 minutes, so boring it hurts
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So I am getting really tired as a Birdie of playing against Guile and other chars that have fireballs. I hate when I go against a person that abuses it. Am I wrong in feeling this way? I see it as being a cheap way of covering up the fact that you don't know how to play, do combos, etc. I ask myself is it any different from when I use banana against Gief but I think it is. I use banana to combo off of and set up other things. I don't just throw bananas down non-stop. Am I right in not wanting to play against players who just spam fireballs? I think it's a really lame and cheap way to play. Instead of testing my Street Fighter abilities, you're testing my timing at jumping over shit using a fight stick. Just my two cents.
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>>147246512

sfv is pretty good for sniffs

mika, chun and cammy need to show dem feet though
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>>147246720
Live action SF + Avengers with anime cliches. It's silly but fun. Necalli is a jobber.
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