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/lozg/ #12 - Timefuckery edition
>I never played a Zelda game, where should I start?
http://zeldadungeon.net/forum/threads/best-zelda-game-for-new-players-to-start-with-a-brief-recommendation-guide.52290/
>List of Zelda games currently available on this gen's consoles
https://www.nintendo.com/games/game-guide?pv=true#/filter/-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|-|zelda
3DS has the N64 Zelda remakes plus NES, SNES, GBC Virtual Console.
Wii U has the GC Zelda HD ports plus NES, SNES, N64, GBA, Wii and DS Virtual Console.
>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Infobin
http://pastebin.com/E8FjmmKD
BotW Known Item Stats:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r6bbN74Bvbsm7nQ9TYDPhtM-DBXMADweKqKYTuaFG_I/edit?usp=sharing
>More Zelda 1? Check Zelda Classic's romhacks:
http://www.zeldaclassic.com/
>News/Developments<
HWL Link's Awakening pack trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nGBVhOGWI
Zelda prizes on MyNintendo
>Twilight Princess Picross:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/93fc36d80848c6dc
>Link theme for 3DS:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/82df9c18e92f49fc
>Wind Waker HD coupon:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/5fcf540895787b91
>Bow and arrows for Miitomo:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/0254df5cf4af7f7a
TloZ - "Symphony of the Godesses" concert tour
http://zelda-symphony.com/pages/schedule
TloZ Card Game
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-trading-cards-listed-online/1100-6439912/
Twilight Princess manga in the west
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/the_legend_of_zelda_twilight_princess_manga_is_coming_to_the_west
BotW Link figurine in production:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/260163-medicom-reveals-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-figurine
Previous thread: >>147165247
First for Koros exist in all timelines
First for Cute Doggy
what is the overall best temple design?
>>147237583
Koroks*
>>147237651
You mean from a merely aestethic point of view or from a level design one?
>>147237719
I guess both. Would be more interested in hearing what dungeon you guys think is the best in terms of level design though desu
>>147237492
Every clock translates to a trip back in time in OoT and a door opened. All of them are alternate timelines.
>BotW
>all this Sheikah stuff
>no sign of Impa
Uh...
New BotW Wii U analisys. This game and physics egine are pushing its weak hardware to its limits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiEYTN-nDso
>>147237593
DOGGO
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>>147237896
>still no sign of Impa
Fixed.
Was there any Sheikah imagery to be found at all in WW? I don't remember seeing any.
>>147238016
Yup. Plus the Sun statues.
The tower ofgods seem also made by a technology similar to the Sheikah's one.
>>147237997
I really hope she's in this game. It'd be extremely lame if the most prominent Sheikah character was absent from a game that constantly shoves Sheikah stuff in your face.
>>147238016
Well, there was the stained glass window in the Master Sword chamber. Other that that, I don't recall any. I mean, Gohdan possibly counts now.
15th for slow euro time.
>>147238240
I wonder if she will be an old woman or a young lady this time.
>>147239664
Probably both, like in SS. Or they could just have an in-between and make her a middle-aged silver fox.
>>147239664
Loli Impa when?
>>147240058
I need this now.
>>147240058
My dick needs it now.
>>147238240
That or maybe a new really good sheikah character and really heavy mentions on Impa at least
>>147237920
The Footage loks really good there, I think it's likely that the framerate will be more stable on release.
>>147240790
I think so as well. The E3 demo wasn't the complete game after all.
>>147240175
>>147240240
It's a little hard to tell, but I'm pretty sure HW Impa is probably in her early-mid thirties. The white hair is stress from being captain of the guard, Zelda's personal bodyguard, and leading troops. This Impa apparently never goddamned sleeps.
>>147240256
Well, we've got the mummy priests, but they're not really characters as such.
Confession time: I've never beat OoT or MM.
am I a piece of shit?
>>147241193
Yes. Get out of our general
>>147241193
Nah, same here. But I'm sure out there you can find people that played OoT and MM but never completed LoZ 1 and 2, unlike me.
So who gives a fuck. Enjoy Zelda. This gen is also great to pick up games in the series you missed.
>>147241117
>The white hair is stress from being captain of the guard
I thought Impa was naturally albino.
>>147237492
Can the Wii U play gamecube games?
>>147241816
I wish
>>147241861
Damn there's one on sale for $170 new, I would've gotten it.
>>147241816
Yes and no.
You have to softmod the Wii mode in the Wii U to play GC games on it.
It's easy and not dangerous, as Nintendo stopped uodating the Wii OS. Just install DiosMios and you're done, you have a Wii U that plays GC games.
>>147242076
Does that void your warranty by downloading that, And can you plug gamecube controllers into your wii u? Or does the wii u controller work with gamecube games?
>>147242350
>Does that void your warranty by downloading that,
It's a softmod of only the Wii part of the console, so no.
>And can you plug gamecube controllers into your wii u?
You can but you need a GC adapter.
>Or does the wii u controller work with gamecube games?
It does. But some specific games could need GC controller's analog triggers.
>>147242624
Thanks bro.
Rance IV confirmed for being in some timeline of Zelda. Toushin Toushi Ylapu confirmed for being Skyloft.
>>147241731
Nah, she has a noticeably darker skin color than Zelda and Link.
>>147242781
No worries. The Wii U is worth getting for its backwards compatibility potential. It plays Wii U, Wii, GC, N64, SNES, NES games and all handhelds's games up to the DS.
Maybe the NX will do it too. But it will cost more than a Wii U and it will take longer to be hacked.
>>147242951
>>147241117
Stop, you're only making me want it more.
>>147242935
W-what was it?
>>147243162
Something that would've gotten me banned for a month
>>147243108
What's that, anon? You want me to post more Impa? Well okay!
>>147243447
This can't be all there is
>you never have a cool big sister/surrogate mother who teaches you to be a ninja
Reminder that Sheik is MALE
>>147244229
It's not, but I hate doubleposting.
>>147244716
Those look like boobs and women legs to me
>>147241648
How about the second quest of LoZ?
>>147244860
Ah ah, of course I played that one too
>>147244801
I was talking about that picture in particular. Is it just a section or is there a full body version?
>>147244716
those bandages in her chest are there to hide her boobs
>>147244842
There really needs to be a montage of Impa training Zelda to be a Sheikah warrior. Perhaps in the form of a short or a comic.
>>147245120
It's okay to admit you haven't
I certainly haven't yet.
>>147237583
If they existed in all timelines, then we would have already see them in the child and downfall timelines.
But it's not the case.
>>147245767
I'll believe in that once you get first comment stating this. Until then, mine has supreme authority over any argument.
>>147245952
lol what a gay
>>147237792
For me it's either Stone Tower Temple, Forest Temple, or Spirit Temple. The first two especially have great atmosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmsZyC0UXUU
>>147240174
>loli impa nursing granny zelda
>>147245160
No idea. If there is, I've never seen it.
I'm playing ALBW for a third time and it's still just so great. The openendedness of Lorule is really satisfying.
Just a reminder that BotW is going to be a game about timeline collision and will force the series back into a singular timeline to allow for maximum experimentation in setting and execution as the series modernises and moves forward.
>>147246791
How do you figure? Forcing it into one timeline seems more restrictive if anything, since they'll have to retain a higher level of consistency.
>>147246791
>to allow for maximum experimentation in setting
Actually, three timelines allow for more experimentations. Just look at how different are WW and TP.
>>147246791
A lot of timelines that don't even matter is better. They can just come up with any sort of crazy story and lazily shove it up somewhere after
>>147244390
>Aryll will never meet her big sister Linkle.
>>147246537
I'll never get the hate for ALBW
What was this guy's deal?
>>147249051
Poes
>>147249051
Spooky ghost person
As Hyrule descended into Ganon's darkness, shit like him rose to the surface
Whatever he is.
>>147249051
He wants to poke his poe pole into your boy hole.
>>147249051
What? Poes are delicious. Breaded and deep fried, with just a little garlic and onion in the breading.
>>147249394
u fokkin wot
GUYS. GUYS, with the voice acting saying Link, this means I cannot use a custom name for him, right?
>>147249621
Shit
That's not true, right?
Not after they stopped him being a lefty for no good reason...
>>147249684
It would be a crime if Link can't take photos and selfies with that slate.
>>147249693
People caring about which hand link uses are just as stupid as those that care about Link's gender.
Who gives a fuck, just play the damn game.
>>147249805
I'm left handed. No characters are left handed. It was cool that one guy was, and now he isn't, and for no real reason.
They could just have a fucking option.
>>147249805
But Nintendo is lazy. They should make at least one game with Link being a woman. There's no reason not to.
>>147249949
Like a gender option? Fuck off, mate. This is trivial stuff to complain about. You are the living confirmation lefties are terrible people.
>>147250152
>lol modelling gender is exactly the same as flipping a model
Jesus Christ.
>>147249949
There was a reason. The majority of people are Right-Handed. And it was a change due to the most recent console games having Link being left-handed. I know it sucks, i didn't even cared what hand he used.
>>147249949
You say there's no real readon for him to be right handed but there's also no real reason for him to be left handed.
>>147250236
recent console games having Link being left-handed*
>>147250236
It was changed due to motion controls (by shittily mirroring the whole world at first -- no options there, either, 'cause that would make sense). But now they don't use motion controls.
>>147250272
Yes. And?
Nintendo has asked you to build a new Color Dungeon. However this time to incorporate proper color mechanics.(Colorblind friends don't worry it'll have colorblind modes).
The trick however is it can't be something as simple as the LA DX Color Dungeon or just simply painting stuff the right color or matching up colors or what have you, it has to be an entirely unique experience.
What do you create?
>>147250342
Even with motion controls they could have made an option. The Wiimote+nunchuk don't depend on positioning, it's the same layout on both hands.
It's a shit reason, but that IS the reason. They just chose to stick with it.
>>147250272
>Yes. And?
Why are you complaining about it when it doesn't matter?
>>147250376
Use an item that raises the ground, like the rod in ALBW, to create slopes. Coloured inks must run down the hills in order to mix, thus creating the requisite colour to set of a Shiekah Colour Authenticater, or some nonsense like that.
>>147250449
Yes.
My point isn't "how dare they not stick with it". It's "this sucks for me and my immersion that they did not stick with it".
>>147249949
>identifying over dominant hands
Jesus christ, this character has brown eyes, I have brown eyes too, wow we're so alike.
>>147250064
>There's no reason not to.
We can have a female Link after we have a Legend of Zelda game where you can actually play as Princess Zelda.
And I mean mainline, CDi-fags. Do not fucking start with me.
>>147250635
>lel what is reading comprehension
>>147250376
Dungeons are boring. I play Zelda games for the story and atmosphere. If I could skip dungeons, I would.
Hopefully BotW will make dungeons optional. Maybe with an option to turn them off.
>>147250657
>AMA STRONK WOMAN
>AI DON'T NEED A SHIELD
>AM STRONK
>>147250657
Last Zelda game.
Zelda is tired of this shit repeating.
Recover her godlike form
Absorb the Soul of the Hero and Master Sword into her own
Proceed to BTFO Ganon for good
Shit gets so serious that all timelines converge due to insane amounts of timefuckery
>>147250725
>I'm left handed. No characters are left handed. It was cool that one guy was
Nice denial.
>>147250964
Identifying isn't the same as being immersed you mong.
I can only identify with guys that have their dicks bent to the right.
The size doesn't matter. I have already come to terms that i have a baby dick
>>147251087
This fucking post killed my sides, I'm laughing like a retard
>>147251087
>I can only identify with guys that have their dicks bent to the right.
>The size doesn't matter. I have already come to terms that i have a baby dick
>>147251038
>lefty cares that link is left handed because hes also left handed and wants a character to share his trait
>it isnt identifying its immersion i swear
>>147250657
>And I mean mainline, CDi-fags. Do not fucking start with me.
Rude
MORE INTREPID ADVENTURING
There were a few great ideas thrown around last thread.
Reposting anon's dungeon query.
You know are in charge of BotW dungeons; what do you do?
>Dungeon Name (optional)
>Theme/Aesthetic (ie: Forest/Mansion or Volcano/Mines)
>Item(s) Obtained
>Types of Puzzles (ie: Light puzzles, water raising/lowering, or something abstract and unique)
>Boss (ie: Dragon, Poe, etc.)
This time go into as much detail as you wish.
>>147251406
>and wants a character to share his trait
This is what I meant by "reading comprehension".
But I'm sure you know the inside of my head better than I do.
>>147251440
FI IS FOR INTREPIDi really like that image, keep reposting it
>>147251536
Then don't fucking bring up that your left-handed too, it's clear to anyone with a brain why you actually care.
>>147251717
*you're
>>147250653
I love that comic.
>>147251528
Also reposting my dungeon idea with the added Boss idea from that kind anon:
>Dungeon name
Starscape Temple
>Theme/Aesthetic
Visually black and neon-blue looking. Think loosely similar to some of the vistas in Metroid Prime 2 Echoes.
The Sheikah are tech savy but not enough to into space. However they can into Magitek enough to implant miniature worlds into books in their great Arcane Library (how the temple would be accessed, maybe even a tiny pre-dungeon)
A book that makes a fictional commentary on the technology of the future is on a sacred pedestal, there because it's the librarian's favorite tome or something, in the back of the Library.
The book would suck you in an Link would be transported to
a literal Temple in space orbiting the planet (a few visual quirks to indicate the fictional nature of the realm). Very "Sheikahpunk" in terms of the various tech strewn about the level.
>Item Obtained
Transposition Mask
Mask/Rune that allows you to jump positions in space but only once set conditions are met. That and/or a special/arrow type. It'd be neat to have more arrows than just fire/ice/light. Maybe Electirc and Dark + others?
Have it be Dark arrow and have it function with Gravity effects to play off of the theme of the dungeon.
Transposition Mask could be used as the song-of-soaring-equivalent in the overworld.
>Types of Puzzles
Gravity shenanigan related ones and also some of that autistic "Mask interplay" I talk about in you-know-whathttp://pastebin.com/aDhkvC1E
Maybe like Inverted Stone Tower but 90 degrees at a time.
>Boss
A recurring enemy throughout the dungeon would be the Flatwoods monster Aliens from MM and have the Boss be the Leader!Space Witch!Alien.
Why are they in space book in the first place? Dunno. Either have them invading it to get the legendary end item inside or have them be a product of the book that bled out to cause the event that transpired in MM Romani Ranch.
>>147251536
>>147251717
just gochill yourselves
I haven't played Zelda in a long time, I only really played oracle of seasons and oot and majora's mask in the collector's edition for the gc.
Breath of the wild actually has me hyped and I might buy an NX just for it. It looks like a cross between the zelda of my childhood and some of the gritty refinements and additions on the formula other series like dark souls have added over time.
>>147251929
I'm way ahead of you, bud.
Post Comfy
>>147252245
>oot and majora's mask in the collector's edition for the gc.
I'm so, so sorry.
>>147251894
>qt Flatwoods Monstergirl Alien Space Witch Boss
Could work.
Post comfy Fi. (comfy fee)
>>147250376
Each item has a different function in the dungeon, fire rod/fire arrow for instance would be red and ice rod/arrow would be blue, Deku Leaf green, etc.
Each color having a different property, and the items used to make those properties happen. Such as say green would cause grass to grow, or blue would raise the water level or fill fountains or certain pots on scales and such.
And the puzzles would be based around shooting the color from your items to change the environment of the room, each room has a variant, like the bland first room can be made green, blue, red, etc. and each room's puzzles is dependent on the color you use, with certain enemies and the Boss require strategic placement and room/environment changes.
>>147252529
>qt
I was thinking more along the lines of pic related
>>147252582
Comfee.
Keep posting while I eat.
>>147252326
>>147252326
>>147246537
>>147247396
I understand people's frustration with how short it is, but frankly I think it's a perfect handheld Zelda. I can bang it out in a couple days, or just one if I'm bored.
>>147252582
"Fee" sounds like air coming out of a balloon or a small squeaky fart.
>>147251528
>>147251894
>>147252657
I really fucking like this. I always wanted more explanation about the MM aliens.
>>147253096
It's a short "fee" Fih not feeeeeeeeeeeee
>>147251528
>Dungeon Name
Test Facility
>Theme/Aesthetic
Think of a combination of the Tower of Gods and Lanayru Mines. It's a large facility meant to test electrical/technological contraptions. You'll see bits of the Ancient Robots, Gohdan, Light Fixtures, etc.
>Items Obtained
Shock Rod/Shock Arrow (doesn't matter, they'd function the same really)
>Types of Puzzles
A mixture of electrical puzzles to power on generators and the machines within the facility. And the ability to push large spires/towers around using clockwork gears in order to have lightning strike them in order to power up the more large machines and rooms.
>Boss
Ancient Robot + Holograms. The Ancient Robot will spawn Holograms similar to Zant's in the Twilight Palace. The boss must have individually powered circuits overloaded using the Shock Rod/Arrow, which causes him to spawn more distorted holograms as time goes on and bits of him to fall off as they begin to cease working. His main attacks being lasers and Gohdan's electric blasts and the holograms themselves, which could be of various enemies or himself for double-triple lasers and blasts.
I think it could work well.
>>147253178
So like the fart then.
>>147253209
That's a strange fart there.
>>147250376
>>147251528
We should combine these two posts.
>>147252985
Playing through LA again, completely wanted to skip the camera stuff outside of Marin, by the time I got her I completely forgot you couldn't talk to the camera man to trigger the sidequest, so I missed out on all those nice screenshots, real shame, but I don't want to play through it again immediately after just to get those screens.
Have a good run, /lozg/, this evening I'm too busy to chill with you.
>>147253248
Look at all this fun Fi.
>>147253248
Cuuuuute
So. Anyone got some shit theory as to what that circular hole in the mountain is?
>>147253835
>A bite
>A hole created by a meteorite
>It's actually the mouth of a very big petrified moster
>>147253335
>completely wanted to skip the camera stuff outside of Marin
What the heck, man.
>>147253294
It's like a little squeak out your bunghole.
>>147253835
Meteor probably, TP Death Mountain is basically a meteor in a big hole.
>>147254026
>It's actually the mouth of a very big petrified moster
That's a not so shitty one. It would be fun.
>>147253835
A cloud
>>147253205
I like it except the name.
>Shock Arrow
I had an idead to add a "special" use to each arrow type. Completely unique to each type. For Electirc/Shock/Lightning/whatever Arrow the special would be that you can shoot one straight into the sky then it'd be gone. You could then take out your sword and whatever you target and swing AT a fucking thunderbolt would strike it. For puzzle you could have some targets that can't be shoot directly with Shock arrow and only from above, which you have no line-of-sight to. This is solved with the lightning strike special.
>>147254134
I don't think a meteor would make a perfectly circular hole. But that is just me thinking realistically.
>>147254190
It is actually a big fucking hole
>>147253560
You're out of the cool kids club now. Don't bother coming back.
>>147254104
BotW got me on a hype train so I just wanted to play through all of them that I could, and I know the Camera is optional, and unfortunately while taking screenshots it didn't even cross my mind that I'd be missing out on so many potential good screenshots.
Just a dumb oversight on my part.
>>147254242
Well I was mostly thinking of a Fire/Ice Rod equivalent, and Shock came to mind, I wish they were called Flame/Freeze Rods respectively personally. But that's just me, glad you like the idea though.
That would definitely be a unique way to use an arrow honestly, but how it would work if say there were other metal materials in the arrow or would it just be pre-programmed for the sword only?
>>147241193
No, but you're missing out. Especially when it comes to MM.
>tfw after all these years you just now realized the Bombos Medallion is the Forest Medallion
I feel stupid, but that's really neat considering what the Bombos Medallion can do.
>>147255004
List 10 reasons why MM is good that weren't mentioned by matthewmatosisMM sucks
>>147255146
>MM sucks
>>147246791
While I don't think that's the case (split timelines allow for more experimentation imo,) I still believe that this could involve a timeline convergence due to the simple fact that we've been seeing so many remakes within the last 6 years.
Having direct connections to games like OoT, WW, TP and the like would encourage younger players to buy the recent remakes and HD versions of those games.
>>147255146
Not him, but does a game really need 10 reasons in which to be liked or disliked? As long as there is one feature that makes you like a game I think that is personally enough.
For me personally, MM is a great game, not my favorite Zelda, but it's a great game like all Zellda games (CD-i need not apply).
I love the sense of wonderment and characterization through sidequests, I loved the world itself despite it's size and general lack of dungeons, they were quality dungeons (Great Bay a little less so).
I loved seeing this new world that was unique and a little quirky if you will. It was full off odd colors in places and just an overall sense of great aesthetic.
But that is just me, just felt like throwing my two cents in.
What are the circumstances for the Triforce to grant wishes or for it to split into three pieces?
>>147254943
Well I've always Preferred elemental arrows over rods but that's just my opinion
It's always been Rods for 2D and Arrows for 3D hasn't it?
For the sword. Remember the Demise fight? Like that except it'd never strike the sword only what you swing it at. Maybe have the sword wreathed in lightning as a visual indicator.
>>147255407
Touching it complete grants wishes.
Touching it and not having an equal balance of power, wisdom, and courage splits it.
>>147255146
It's worth a shot. Assuming the anon is younger, there's a stronger chance he'll gravitate towards MM though. I've noticed that most younger gamers who weren't around to play either of the N64 Zeldas while they were still relevant tend prefer MM over OoT now.
>>147255536
That's been mostly true yeah. It's started to become less in recent years with 2D games becoming 2.5/3D as well (but handheld I get your point), and BotW throws that out the window now having the fire rod.
Ok yeah, Demise' sword programming could work pretty well in fact.
>>147255567
How did Ganon used it before ALttp when he turned the Sacred Realm into the Dark World if he didn't have an equal balance?
>>147255361
I was just trolling.
MM, imo, is one of the best games i have ever played. And like you, it is also not my favoriteit is WW.
Apart from the obvious "not liking the atmosphere, too dark or something" people complain about the time limit.
I take that most people who complain about the time mechanic get anxious from just its presence there. It is understandable to a certain degree, clocks have been notoriously bad implemented in games, often just to punish the player. But in MM it fits amazingly well into the gameplay.
>>147255643
I'm going on 25 and I prefer MM to OoT. Mostly because I've played OoT to absolute death, but I appreciate the side-quests of MM and the characterization. I appreciated it quite heavily in WW too and the few instances of TP that had it, same as SS. I like that characters actually feel like characters instead of sort of bland set pieces. OoT feels like that to me outside of a few characters and maybe 1-2 lines from random characters you only ever see 1-2 times total.
>>147255795
plot twist. ganon is a good guy
Is Link's Awakening DX the best Zelda remake? The photo album is the cutest shit in the whole series.
>>147255146
Not that guy, but it has the most fleshed out town and NPCs, great atmosphere, best sidequests, best antagonist, the variety of ways the masks let you interact with the environment is super fun, goron mask is the best mode of transportation in any of the games, it's innovative in a series that tends to rehash itself a lot, tatl was a good companion, the transition between the moon destroying everything to the serene tranquility when you're transported inside the moon is one of the most memorable moments in the games for me, and the ending was super satisfying. Easily my favorite.
>>147255795
Presumably he took it from Link and Zelda when he defeated them in OoT, like how he does in WW. It initially split in OoT due to Ganondorf, but it can be brought back together and after that, it doesn't matter anymore, the failsafe (splitting) has been fixed.
>>147255797
Ah my bad, it's hard to tell sometimes with 4chan whats trolling and whats not anymore.
Agreed, WW is also my favorite game personally, in my top 3 of all time games actually. I don't disagree, the day system can get a bit annoying. I can't tell you how many times I've slowed it down to try to do as much as possible and still come up short by just a bit sadly. But I think it works well too, the further you progress the easier it is to do everything in a day.
>>147256008
>that little dork is the strongest Link by a good mile defeating Ganon when he had the full power of the Triforce
>>147256008
it also has some of the most unsettling shit in the series
>garos
>ranch aliens
>dancing redeads
>dead deku son
>people all over town accepting death
>>147255684
Btw the other specials would be as follows:
>Fire arrows
Instead of a whole seperate bomb arrow you instead have fire arrow combine with your bombs for a fire-arrow-boosted explosion
>Ice arrow
Dunno. Had an idea for a Ice shard shotgun but thats not novel enough. Need something with an utterly unique puzzle solving potential.
>Light arrow
Also dunno but at least I want to change it's color from yellow to white. (Purely so Electric can have a color and blue is taken)
>Electric arrow
See above
>Dark arrow
Gravity effects when shot at special symbols strewn about the overworld and it's debut temple
>>147256127
Why did it look like it split when Daphnes used it in WW then? Where did each piece go to?
>>147256418
You could just re-introduce water freezing for Ice Arrows like in MM, and potentially that it to the next level and have it freeze anything, such as trees, the floor, etc. That way it could help getting blocks and stuff around faster by sliding them on ice.
Light Arrows could have a reflecting property when shot off certain services.
Overall though, I like it. Arrows need to actually be what they are, which I liked in MM with them freezing, and I'm glad BotW that Fire Arrows actually burn things.
>>147256690but i don't prefer MM anon
>>147256701
Water freezing in this game is done with the Cryonis rune now, though.
>>147256580
If you pull the map back during the Ganondorf fight, the Triforce Pieces are overhead causing the flooding themselves. They likely split to speed the process up.
I really enjoy Wind Waker, but the lack of any underwater stuff, as well as very little naval combat hurts it a lot. There's a lot of stuff that should be in this game, but isn't. Like Zoras.
>world is flooded
>the fish people turn into birds
>HUURRRRRR
Also, you should be able to upgrade your boat. Like after the Temple of the Gods, you should get to control Tetra's ship. And Tetra should go with you, because her staying at the castle is bullshit.
I hope they try this type of game again, but with more substance to it.
>>147256783
Fuck was meant for>>147255875
>>147256801
Then you can just do it for other surfaces and materials then. Who knows, maybe Ice Arrows might not even be in the game.
>>147256946
I think that would hurt the King. Nailing stuff to him. Making him larger. ;-;
>>147256946
It's baffling that to this day people still can't grasp why Zoras evolved into Ritos.
>>147256946
The Gods forced evolution so that they wouldn't be able to explore Hyrule again. Only Lord Jabun and the map fish get that privilege, and the map fish doesn't seem to be able to dive down far enough.
>>147256946
Wasn't salt water was deadly to the zoras?
>>147257019
Ice Arrows are confirmed to be in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEI8H262EAk
>>147257139
In that timeline, yes. They hadn't evolved into their weird dual River Zora evolutionary split yet where they can exist in fresh/salt water.
>>147257108
I feel the same way
>>147256701
But thats the what-effect-does-thing-have-when-shot-at-shit. Fire arrow burns. Ice freezes.
Inappropriate for a special
>>147257173
Hmm, interesting thing. You got me stumped other than freezing trees and certain things.
Maybe it could work on the slow down, like that gameplay where Link smashes the boulder and sends it into the distance, maybe if you shoot it with an ice arrow, it 'freezes the timer' so you can hop on it and go places.
Who knows though.
>>147257108
>>147257129
The existence of submarines renders that completely pointless. The Goddesses are stupid bitches for thinking that would work. And guess what? It didn't. Ganon came back despite the fucktons of water they dropped on him.
It's nothing more than a weak excuse for lazy design.
>>147257139
No, and it's never actually stated anywhere that they can't go in either salt or fresh.
>>147257423
Rito is the explanation anon
>>147257423
A submarine can only go down so far in the ocean before water pressure begins to crumble it. Just because submarines exist doesn't mean they can get all the way down to Hyrule. While likely they can because they're treasure hunters, we don't know for sure.
Besides the Goddesses/Gods do as they please. They're not entirely benevolent. The people wanted them to get rid of Ganon, and so they did. They got rid of him for that generation. They can't help they have no power over Demise returning time and time again. It's likely that Demons existed before the Golden Goddesses came and cultivated the world around them, banishing them to beneath the surface.
Besides what would you get out of exploring underneath the water? Most of it is just Hyrule with mountains/islands jettisoning into the sky/sea level. Most you'd get is clunky swimming controls, some chests scattered around, and ultimately some random ruin backdrops and some coral on the sides of those mountains. It wouldn't be much honestly.
And it's not particularly lazy design when they never intended for it in the first place.
>>147257495
Rito are abominations born out of bad writing.
>>147257423
They weren't trying to stop Ganon. The people wished for the Gods to help and for him not to take Hyrule, so they flooded it.
They got monkeys pawed.
>>147257423
>weak excuse for lazy design
What do you mean by lazy design? It would be infinitely easier to just call it a new race and be done with it, but they showed us that they evolved from Zora and also gave us a reason why.
As for your submarines argument, that wasn't a thing before the flood now, was it? Same applies to how even though the flood is a divine event, the Koroks and the Deku tree can still drain the water.
I WANT TO FUCK FI>mfw I slept for 12 hours
>>147257804
Rude
>>147257804
>it doesn't follow the evolutionary process of the real world. it's shit.
The reason they were transformed into birds is because the Great Sea is teeming with monster and the Zora were too few.
>>147258162
I WANT TOINTREPIDLYFUCK FIFIH
>>147258465
Not okay.
Uhm guys
http://nintendoeverything.com/hyrule-warriors-legends-upcoming-dlc-characters-seemingly-outed/
Now you realize why Nintendo doesn't want to give their demo to dataminers.
>>147259205
>their botw demo
Fixed
>>147259205
Well that's their fault for not removing the info from the DLC already released.
But yeah, Nintendo doesn't do much demos because of stuff like that
>>147259205
>no Linebeck
FUCK
>>147259391
>Well that's their fault for not removing the info from the DLC already released.
Koei doesn't care
>>147259446
WELL THEN GEE NINTENDO WHY DON'T YOU PUT THESE THINGS IN THE CONTRACT?
>>147259205
Suddently, I feel like not buying the season pass anymore.
>>147238073
that image has no sheikah reference though. do you have more?
>>147254613
Is she crying cause she can finally triforce correctly, tears of joy that she is no longer a newfag?
>>147259762
Not that guy, but the spectacles are made of two Sheikah eyes put together, and the decorative shield in the pirate's keep has a Sheikah symbol on it.
The other Sheikah symbol besides this, is Mrs. Marie's kimono.
>>147255407
There are still some blanks concerning the Triforce, as there are only a few games where we actually obtain it. Usage in ALttP and SS suggest that you can use it repeatedly for wishing. WW shows that it can disappear after a single wish. In my opinion, touching the Triforce without conquering it from others triggers the test of balance. If your three virtues are imbalanced, you only receive your highest virtue part. Conquering parts allows you to make a wish anyway. So here are two theories about wish granting.
>condition based functionality
The method of obtaining the Triforce influences the amount of wishes you receive. If you conquer it, you receive one wish and it disappears. It might relocate to the Sacred Realm. If you obtain it with balanced virtues, you receive an unlimited amount of wishes, as you are the type of person who's meant to receive it.
>location based functionality
The method of obtaining doesn't matter. If you use the Triforce outside of its designated resting place, it disappears after a wish and relocates to that space. This space may change over time and for quite a time after SS, it's been the Sacred Realm.
Since those things are unclear, I think we cannot conclude definite rules about splitting either. We have two cases of "conquering" and two cases of "obtaining".
There are also unknown factors concerning its powers. Ganondorf theorized in OoT that Link only made it that far with the Triforce of Courage. I doubt that as it didn't "appear" before the end game, so there's no prior visible activation process.
Depending on how you interpret certain sequences, you could theorize that all pieces grant shape changing powers. We know for sure that the Triforce of Power can make you (almost) immortal. It may allow shape changing, if that wasn't a power Ganondorf had previously. We know that the Triforce of Courage either grants shape changing or alters it. We know almost nothing about the powers of the Triforce of Wisdom.
Slow day, /lozg/?
>>147259205
Toon Zelda wasn't in Phantom Hourglass was she? They said PH was going to be in the pack so they'll include Linebeck right? Right?Please don't take this from me.
Is the anon with the Ghost Ships dungeon and Poe Fleet Captain Boss idea still here? That was a neat idea.
>>147262309
>Toon Zelda wasn't in Phantom Hourglass was she?
>>147262713
That's not Zelda. It's that pirate dude from WW
>>147262305
Maybe. You can ameliorate that by joining into the lorefag discussion like >>147262158 or mechanicsfag discussion like >>147251528
Your pick.
>>147262713
Tetra isn't Zelda, she's actually a good character.
All of Zelda's alter egos>Zelda
>>147262862
Tetra is Zelda you didn't-play-the-game fag
>>147246791
How would you merge timelines if each branch is centuries apart from each other?
>>147259205
>Still no Groose
Fucking pathetic.
At least we're getting Yuuga.
It's so obvious we're getting Ravio and Toon Zelda because Koei wants to reuse assets and little else.
>>147263042
IDK, ST Zelda was pretty good. So is OoT, even though the alter-ego helps that.
The rest are fucking boring or bad, though.
>>147263660
What if he's a binus character? There's one slot leftover for the 3ds version,
>>147263631
I think the obvious implication was that it would be set far enough along that this wouldn't be a problem
>>147263042
I gotta know what hardcore Tetra-fags think of the bit where she actually complies with Daphnes' request to stay in the castle like a good little damsel. Even though this is some serious bullshit because she 1) doesn't know this old dude and has no obligation or emotional connection to him, 2) is a pirate, and by default gives no fucks about authority besides her own 3) is willing and able to assist Link(who she actually does know and care about) in fighting Ganon.
I like Wind Waker, but that's just flat out bad writing. She has a nice big pirate ship and a crew of goons, he's a dinky little red boat. Hell, you're a ghost, just possess Tetra's ship, dumbass.
>>147264438
That always struck me as weird too. If they really needed her to not be a part of the next story segment they should have given her a real reason to stay behind, not "the weird old dude said he's my dad, I completely believe him and am now totally emotionally reliant on him".
>>147264438
I'm not a hardcore Tetrafag but I liked her, and that moment was pretty dumb in an otherwise great game. Hopefully BotW "breaking Zelda conventions" applies to rescuing damsels too, that shit got old a long time ago. Giving Link some decent characterization would be a nice change too but my hopes aren't as high for that.
>>147264438
She was in shock over having a ghost magically change her clothing for her. She could feel the princess thong sawing her ass in half.
>>147265253
That makes sense
>>147264438
I'm going to go with the "she remembered" plot device and decided the best course of action was to stay in the castle so that Ganon wouldn't be able to capture her and become more powerful since he'd have 2 piece of the triforce
Did everyone forget about that?
>>147265401
No one remembers that.
Why is Link Between Worlds readily available for $20?
Was it not that good?
Link to the Past is my favorite Zelda ever
>>147265253
>she was in shock
I don't buy it. Why would finding out she's a princess be any more shocking than getting swiped by a giant bird?
>>147265401
>the best course of action was to stay in the castle so that Ganon wouldn't be able to capture her
Except, she got captured precisely because she was left completely alone and unguarded in the castle.
>>147241117
all of this leads to an addiction to blue potions, which in turn leads to "blue outs"using her position to force her subordinates into sexual debauchery, as well as poor princess zelda
>>147265875
I thought it sold gangbusters and that's why they hoofed the price in the balls so soon.
>>147265154
>Giving Link some decent characterization would be a nice change too but my hopes aren't as high for that.
Well he's officially called Link from in the dialogue, so that probably eliminates us from having the option to name him with our save files. Also a small step from Nintendo finally beginning to recognize and accept him as his own character and not a blank-slate avatar.
Then again I don't think he was ever meant to be a true blank-slate which is what so many people misinterpreted from Miyamoto and Aonuma. He's more or less a callback to classic RPG characters where you didn't just create your own special OC snowflake like you do in so many RPGs todat, but you were given a character and you had to imagine what it was like to be in their shoes. That kind of deal. But people are idiotic and they still don't get it.
>>147265980
>forces
>"poor Princess Zelda"
Dude, Impa hangs out in Zelda's room as she sleeps. Which judging from Zelda's total non-reaction, is normal.
>>147253068
I didn't find it overly short compared to any other Zelda game.
Remember this stupid boss guys?
>/vg/ LOZG steadily scrolling by
>cup of tea
>OITB streaming
>HW on off-screen play
Fucking comfy.
>>147266627
Who's your Warrior-fu, anon?
>>147266757
Go Fi or go home, imo.
>>147266757
Link
Darunia is a close second
>>147255225
and so a cleansing flame ran through the land with, the only sound that could be heard over the roar of the fire was "HEYA
>implying the Sheikah made all the magitek around Hyrule
>robots everywhere
>implying the Sheikah made the Ancient Robots
So what's the over/under on BotW having a robot girl character? Machine waifus have been a long time coming for this franchise, honestly.
>>147256315
if it had deadhand that would be true
>>147251528
For some reason, I've always liked the idea of an outdoor dungeon. But then it wouldn't really be a dungeon, so I dunno. I'm making it up as I go along.
>Dungeon name
???
>Theme/Aesthetic
Would have to be forest, with trees acting as walls, with an open ceiling
>Item obtained
A nature-related rune, that controls the weather in a small area
>Types of puzzles
Water and buoyancy puzzles
>Boss
An ancient bipedal robot, roughly the same size as Koloktos.
It would be almost invincible until you make it rain in the room, causing it to malfunction.
As it rains, puddles form on the ground. once it's down to half health,
it tears trees out of the ground, and uses them as a makeshift umbrella, i guess.
then you freeze the puddles on the floor to make it slip, and when it's down, you use lightning to strike the robot.
repeat the cycle 3 times. each lightning strike, the robot gets faster,
until the third, which fries its circuits, killing it.
Thoughts?
>>147267296
FUCK Deadhand.
Just FUCK IT.
>>147255643
I didn't have an N64 when I was little so I only played the 3DS remakes recently.
I played MM3D and then OoT3D, and maybe I should have played them in release order instead, because while I loved MM3D I found OoT3D really dull and disappointing by comparison.
>>147266757
Midna
>>147267469
>Midna
>69 at the end of the post number
hehehehehe......
>>147267296
Am I the only person that doesn't find Dead creepy or unsettling? He was just kind of there as a kid.
>>147267590
>hehehehehe......
>>147267735
graphics didn't really do it justice, basically a flesh blob that you have to use yourself as bait to fight
>>147267291
The Sheikah may have not made the Ancient Robots, but it's very clear that area has some type of eventual Sheikah Connection with the Timeshift Stones, and we do know the Sheikah clearly have technology, same as the Twili and Oocoo. Both of which have Sheikah Symbols as well, and the Sheikah were appointed by the Goddesses. Sheikah may as well be Shadow/Warpers from space, a sister race to the Golden Goddesses, Book of Mudora does say they came from a Deep Nebula.
>>147267456
Gee, that's funny you say that. I played Ocarina when it first came out, but never owned MM and only rented it and played it up to Woodfall temple.
I recently got a 3DS and snatched up MM3D because I'd been looking for a copy for ages (only after I got it is the original cart freaking everywhere now, go figure). Fucking loved it. I'm only halfway through, but playing it recaptured the magic for me, no exaggeration.
I gave in and got OoT3D for the hell of it, even though I still own the original cart (with Ganon's red blood and Muslim chanting and everything). Felt like I was going through the motions. Kind of dull. I got a little more into it as of late, as I just decided to keep going, but it's not 100% there for me, I don't know why.
And yet I'm still playing it.
