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Vox get out edition


>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA [Embed]
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o [Embed]

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/87FjnR7M
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first for how do I get this crap working on linux
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1st for best waifu
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https://discord.gg/2B3Uz

come join the discord, we have Family Game Night on Table Top Simulator going on right now!
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>>147128527
do you enjoy hurting me?
Making me suffer?

My thread was so much better. , It had an edition, a spess related image, and even a last time section. It was made with love but no, you go and make this shit thread just to hurt me


one day you will reap the consequences of this action
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>>147129182
I only live to hurt, senpai.
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>>147129079
How many people are in the discord
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>>147068290
I can't think of anyone who unironically would want a blunderbuss. Shit autostacks now so you can't fill your backpack with 7 tiles and have a beaker of fuel in your pocket. Even floor tiles are easier to use and there's so little that's actually worth it that we haven't and likely never will have an effective trained blunderbuss militia sustaining fire down a hall.

>>147069554
Can only be a mommi for so long until no built-in rcd and only one claw when you're securing windows makes you want to kill yourself.

>>147075286
>>147076392
Because it cockblocks ban evaders stone cold until Dylan lowers it cause >Dylanstrategie

>>147075902
Can you disposal pipe through?

>>147085367
CMO's never know what they're doing. Anyone actually decent avoids cmo so they're less of a target. The only thing it has is the hypo and that's only good for getting yourself killed for it and chloraling shit but you should be using pacilube anyway.

>>147085383
Next time get a metal tomahawk, tools, and welding goggles in the early round down time. What you want to do if when that wizlingchangeapirecorgicharizard acts up you shoot it with your shotgun, wrench chairs or weld lockers/rods for metal, drop a table and cut his head off by targeting the mouth with the tomahawk. then go cook the brain, deconstruct it, or melt it at your leisure.
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>>147128764
The Queen is not thicc and I refuse to say it anymore.
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>>147129247
49 online right now, a ton more offline.

most people AFK.
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>>147129332
>Blueberry
>Thicc

Two completely different things you faggot.
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Why isn't Sawbones admin? I bet he'd be better than the shitty ones we have right now.
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>>147129596
Cause it's sawboner. Do you really want a constantly irritated sawboner to make decisions that impact people? Things can always get worse.
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>>147129596
Because he has the mindset of a 16 year old
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>>147129596
Why aren't you admin? I bet you'd be better than the shitty ones we have right now.
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>>147129718
I don't think I've ever seen Sawbones irritated.

>>147129743
How so?
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>>147129815
He went absolute madman a while back and he's trying to rein it in. I think the warnings he got helped.
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>>147128697
With lots of effort, and probably poorly.
A Windows virtual machine is probably your best option.
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>>147129815
He metagrudges a lot of people but acts like their friend when they're around. He favours his immediate friends over anyone else, believing they can't do any wrong.
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>>147129949
t. Pain
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>not going balls to the wall over-robust on every station with randomized name and appearance so sore losers can't go 'P-P-P-POWERGAYMEN!!!'

>not switching servers the instant you detect a lynch mob of 'he's too robust please ban him admins' retards forming

>not coming back under a new ckey
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sure wish my waifu would get on
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>>147129991
Fuck this, I am tired of being underappreciated. I'm leaving this thread forever you ungrateful fucks.
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>>147129332
Dana is thicc thicc thicc!
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>>147130770
You're a toe the line shitter. Fuck you i'm gonna play ark now.
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How do you kill a seasoned sec/hos without going loud?
Breaking into brig has high chances of having the AI sniff you out or bumping into another officer. Catching them in maint is nearly impossible unless you're willingly to wait an absurd amount of time hidden inside a locker.
Sometimes being a syndicate gets really frustrating
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>>147132032
Pacid smoke prox grenades hidden in bags

The SPS will always go off though because muh crutches for sec
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>>147132032
If they're goodcurity, spend the whole round building up a rapport with them. Maybe even save them once, if possible. Then blindside them once you've earned their trust.

Otherwise, PDA the officer and tell them you have something they'll want. If you're in Medbay, you've just finished a superpower injector for them. If you're in Science or Cargo, you've got a shiny new gun for them. Think of something.
Then when they come to pick it up, parapen or chloral them so they can't call for help, take their radio, cuff them, and then decapitate them somewhere in maintenance and take the head with you.
Decapitation is the best route because once they die, Sec is going to flock to your position. Stripping will cause the same thing, and spacing without stripping will lead to the body's recovery via telescience and then cloning.
Best option is to decapitate them and then take the head and run before Sec gets there. Make sure to wear gloves and NOT wear any clothes that can tie you to your job, in case they've got a Detective or HoS with a scanner.
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Vote yes on both server polls to finally remove vox
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>>147132449
This is why admins should make these votes on the forums.
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Why even add "I don't care" options to optional polls? Same shit as not voting.
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>>147132546
It lets people get a better picture of how large the total pool of active players is at the time.
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>>147132613
Aren't there scripts already doing that by gathering active ckey and CIDs over the day to cross reference with the votes?
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Does anyone's hobbies or job when you play the game reflect your life in any way?

I fancy myself an alright cook, but chef, chemist, and geneticist don't hold much interest for me in SS13.
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>>147132763
I play almost nothing but HoS, but IRL I tend to avoid conflict and leadership roles.
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>>147132763
I actually manage reactor projects IRL and I sometimes try to apply some setups with atmos burn chambers to see if it works in SS13's atmos system.
They rarely do.
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>>147132863
classic emasculated cuck playing his abusive power fantasies in a game
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>>147132763
Botany and MoMMI are my favorite roles, guess I like helping people and having a good time making sure everyone can too.

I stay the fuck away from medical though, fucking snorefest, and the only reason I would even go there is to kill someone as a traitor or steal a paramedics gear, shit is surprisingly stylish
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>>147132963
Joke's on you, I play a cordial and polite HoS and always make my best effort to meet the people I arrest halfway.
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>Vox traders running all over the station stealing shit
>Attacking when their nigger brothers are held accountable for their voxtiding.
Why are admins never fucking on?
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>>147132975
>Play medbay
>Everyone constantly treating themselves because they think they can do your job better than you
>constantly moving around so you can't tell what's fucking wrong with
>Telling you how to cure them like I don't already fucking know
>People constantly stealing shit
>Breaking into chemistry when they can just ask me to make them shit

I am never playing medbay again. I just wanted to fucking help people but it was one of the worst experiences I had in this game
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>observed that whole round

I don't have nearly enough lines to greentext the absurdity. 10/10 would observe again.
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KNIFE CLUB LIVES ON
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Knife gang may have been subverted but it can never die. Hail the knife.
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>>147132763
Bully in high school and bully in security.
I feel bad for the former. I am so sorry
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you picked a bad time to be raycis, cap
t. happy knife merchant

also shout out to my robust merchant friend
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so where else should i get a tool belt and insulated gloves as vox trader?
usually at round start i rush to mining for the belt no one uses and to north of the main station for free gloves no one uses
i usually use my coin on the box cloner
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Most amazing round ever, great note to end on.
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>>147133141

CHLORAL
SYRINGE
GUN

Holy shit you weak ass medbay folk whine every time someone steals your shit. How about you fucking stop them from taking your shit?
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>>147132032
Slip, chloral, sleep tox, take his headset off. go strip and mass diver him then eva away, throw the sps while you're out there, making the sps useless.

You can voice changer and call for help though. If you wanna hunt, hunt bitch. It's shit for the round to just tricky pricky and he's out of the way though. No action.
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>>147133141
To be fair I once died 5 times in a row because the 3 doctors working on me didn't know I needed blood and eventually they just threw me in the cloner. On a first impression there isn't a way to tell if medical is good or bad and people usually assume its bad.
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>>147132763
I'm an unemployed layabout loser irl so assistant fits me perfectly!
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I wanted to sweep things, and ended up as the captain's bodyguard, oh well.
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>>147133320
same 2bqfh
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>>147133141
>Waiting at the door
>Nobody comes
>Nearly die
>Just hack in
>Live
GEE. I WONDER
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>>147133332
Good work tho
You always kept hitting then leaving me right before I died
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>>147133203
>>147133214
>>147133229
>>147133268
>meanwhile in the AI core
https://youtu.be/mrQ_L1lVkfw
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>>147132763
I'm a mathematician but I pretty much play space to relax from all that, so I try to avoid engineering, atmospherics, toxins, anything where it might actually come in handy. I've worked out how to do it all myself, but I just don't want to. I'd rather just do something mundane like Cargo or Service.
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KNIFE CLUB FOREVER
DOWN WITH KOLTON
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>>147133273
TRADE
R
A
D
E

FUCKING SHITTERS
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>>147133389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EddX9hnhDS4
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>>147133473
>crew
>trading
top lmao
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>>147133273
>vox trader who does not trade asks why the fuck nobody trades with him

Its almost as if your lack of deals affects your entire job as a outcast trying to bargain with the station.
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>>147132763
I skateboard and fix boats.
Not sure how that translates to dicking around in space but whatever.
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Why should Non-Humans be restricted from head rolls?
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>>147133919
Because they're not human.

/case
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>>147133919
Because NT is a HUMAN corporation
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>>147133919
the human dominated crew said so
is this really hard to understand? humans get upset if their boss is a different ethnicity, let alone an alien race
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>>147133996
NT Default doesn't care about race. So if NT's lawset doesn't give a shit why would they?
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>>147133919
Because we are medRP and God forbid there's the joke that the higher ups trust more in a screaming flammable skeleton than you.
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>>147133268
If I played more conservatively I probably wouldn't have even needed the help of the borgs. But I thought fuck it, and tried to see if I could take all of you on at once. I think I prefer it that way since I learned a lot about fighting a big crowd and that goes a long way to being able to do it right the next time if I have to.

I have no regrets about being racist or anything else that happened that round. I'd do it all again if I could. And I'll definitely keep being mean to vox traders as captain in the future.

10/10 round 2bh, a good note to end on after the two other great rounds I had earlier. It's nice to see so much action and be able to practice getting gud
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gas the vox race war now
Admins need to hand out more vox trader bans
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>>147134062
Because NT default is an old lawset which was around when the crew was human only. Hence why Asimov is now the standard lawset at roundstart
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>>147133919
Because the chain of command is stronger when the leader is the same race as the underings, because NT is mostly human, because the majority of the crew fucking voted yes, because Vox are usually niggers or really fucking good
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>>147134062
Because humans are not bound to AI Laws for fucks sake. Human Resources is distinct from Artificial Intelligence Laws.
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>>147134204
Who the fuck is this retard?
It was always asimov as default.
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>>147133919
Because they adminhelp the second I laser them for going into upload and grabbing freeform without asking or telling anyone and then the admin gets as headache as I give him too much information instead of just going 'he was nonhuman comdom'
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>did you hear, Stacy? Anon voted no on the /vg/station server polls
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>>147134356
Muh balids.
Why not just bolt your upload at round start to prevent that drama? You won't need to open it for them.
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>>147134204
asimov has been the standard since forever my man
>>147134239
1. no one gives a shit
2. nt default doesn't give a shit
3. knee jerk reactions with no actual reasoning behind it
4. so we're blaming the race and not the players?
>>147134306
If we're going to use RP reasons, on our lightrp server, then yeah its a valid argument.
>>147134356
you're a shitty ai that acts on probable harm. Why would the captain attempt to harm any humans.
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>>147134480
Because then the retarded non humans who try to change the laws can't get what's coming to them

Accept that the borgs won't help you, non human faggots. It's the price you pay for playing non-humans, especially plasmamen and greys.
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>>147134607
>meme
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>>147134526
Read the server rules~
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>>147134526
It's POTENTIAL harm you dingus, probable harm is what's okay to act on. But he's entirely within his right laser non humans that try to change laws desu
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>>147133919
Because without exception they are shitters that make everything worse for the people trying to keep the station safe
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>>147134062
>Get a captain level ID in 2 minutes with a toolbox
>le serve above protect face
>Law 2 kill everyone lower ranked than me
:^)
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>>147134526
1 is still valid even if you don't care
2 nt default is a shit lawset compared to assimov anyhow, so why even bring it up when we mostly use Assimov
3 I literally just told you they vary extremely, going from niggers to great players, with most of the great players being medical and most of the niggers being traders and shit, cause guess what, traders usually fuck shit up hard cause they think the job of a trader means a free pass to loot shit and then get admin protection when they get shot. Why trust these kind of bad aples that outnumber medical by a longshot? Its like giving a random ssistant comdom status
4 We are blaming the race playerbase, as in, the players who decide to play vox. Guess what fag, not a whole lot of people play vox, so most are the same with verry litle variation, so a clear patern of behaviour is set and observed. Bird niggers and the occasional good berd

They have no inherent benefit to being on command, heck, a single assistant with a stun prod and cable cuffs can with ease just fucking kill you by asphixiation, what do you even do better than the others at being on command if people will likely disobey you ic and ooc for being a vox?
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>>147134859
wow it's like we can't totally rewrite part of NT to fix that issue.
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>traders go around killing people and get admin protection for it
Who started this meme?
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>>147135008
>>147135008
They may not kill but I've seen them try to kidnap people more times than I can count
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>>147134929
>what do you even do better than the others at being on command if people will likely disobey you ic and ooc for being a vox?

I dont know man, possibly players actively play Non-human head roles so why restrict them.
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>>147134110
Vox traders have zero place outside of the their trade ship on an NT station. If they so much as touch anything you can server rules wise legitimately order them spaced by anyone.
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>>147134526
>giving a fuck about the AI on vgstation
As much as other stations abuse the AI, it's nothing compared to the absolute fucktarded shit I see happen here. It's 100% every round there's an AI, someone is going to actually stab himself in the face over and over. Just because.

And sillicons are the ONLY players that have a one-strike rule when it comes to ahelps. Despite the crew constantly trying to kill eachother and creating intentional conflicts while fucking around with the station and the laws in rapid sequence.

Meanwhile the fucking bartender has gotten full illicit gear, gone into atmos, fucked everthing, gone to chapel, kicked out all the glass to the void. Played Botanist the next round. Grew nothing but weed and gibbed the chef. Played RD next round. Spaced the vox in xenobiology. And so on, and so forth. Because he's not stupid enough to play borg where every god damn round is a limbo stick of ahelps the fucking second someone gets caught in the crossfire of two greytiding powergame faggots in areas they shouldn't be.
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>>147135198
Haha, no.
Kurt was banned for killing a vox who was shooting at crewmembers on the escape shuttle, in a round with like 90% of the crew dead.
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>>147133567
not asking why no one trades with me
we usually have fruit or materials up with the other vox
just asking if there's a better way to get the basic items for hacking and deconstructing
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>>147135153
>This guy numbered several reasons as to why putting a minute part of the player base in command jobs is bad and has no real place in the game
>instead of having any real counterargument, im going to respond to his question regarding what the minority could do better by saying they rarely did it in the past
>

What the fuck are you doing
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>>147135387
he made 0 points at all and you're both spewing word salad
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Is there a no rules server? Where's the nox equivalent?
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>>147134356
You cried about me being a non human and not having to listen to me so I went to defy grays as humans you fucking autistic child.
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>>147135387
>>147135527
If you want to play a head, play human.

Otherwise accept that you're not playing head. No one has to explain why not allowed. It's the same reason tajaran's are kill on sight. We're not encouraging furry fuckbubbles here. Eat shit.
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>>147135664
>said anon in the server with a gigantic meta circlejerk
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>>147135664
god bless the people who voted yes on that poll

this is exactly why we should've had it on the forum or github, because you'd see these kneejerk reactions constitute most of the voting base.
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>>147135630
Heres what you should have done:
"Hey human HOP can you tell the AI to let me change its laws" or
"Hey human HOP can you go change the AIs laws to make me human"
what you shouldnt have done is go into the upload and grab freeform without saying anything and expect to survive.
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>>147135198
That's pretty much what I did. After I built a wall up against their docking port, told them to fuck off, and then stole all of their shit from their trader station

The problem was the knife club, which was composed of a bunch of people that fought each other with knives all shift, said they were under their protection or something. That's when things got ugly and the knife club mutinied against me and there was a long chain of events that culminated in a huge fight in the brig that lasted close to 10-15 minutes that ended with a lot of people being dead.

It was pretty top notch chaos, the kind of stuff you might read about in a greentext story when you've never played the game before, and it sucks you right in. I personally had a lot of fun and I thought it was all pretty neat, the way the knife club banded together to protect the vox traders from the racist captain and held a mutiny to stop him from fucking with them. Part of me feels like that's why the rules should be lax when it comes to extended rounds, because that's when you get some of the funniest stories and more complex interactions between the crew, even if it ends badly for a lot of people. You just don't get that stuff a lot of the time from other game modes because nobody's driven to be creative when they're getting their shit pushed in by various antags.

Not to say that the rounds can't be good in any other game mode, they usually are, but they rarely get as crazy and fun to take part in as some extended rounds.
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Anyone else having captcha freak out on opera?

>>147134963
Go to bay if you want a snowflake hugbox.
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>>147135779
POTENT
HAMS
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>>147135779
No, here's what the AI should have done: Powered down it's upload until ordered otherwise.
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>>147135779
why didn't you turn the upload power off friend.

valids is why of course but let me hear.
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>>147135812
Read the server rules. Probable harm =/= Potential harm
He also grabbed his antique out of its display case beforehand. Because totes need dem lethals.
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Do your part and vote yes on both server polls
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>>147135812
He's totally in the right in this case.
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>>147135821
>breaking law 3
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>>147135792
chromium here, picture captcha is mcfucked
good thing I have 4chode x on my home pc so I can go back to big brothering people's addresses when I get home
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>>147135283
Well if he was an IAA that's understandable cause they shouldn't be doing that shit. It's a high rp role.

>>147135214
It's partly understandable cause silicons can have a very large impact on the round
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>>147135858
So you're gonna bolt down every captain who grabs his laser and not let them out on muh hams even if they're human?
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>>147135664
Hey, fine by me mate, Im saying the vox don't belong there and that the best argument somebody had to have em is that they once or twice did
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>>147135821
Its the captain, He can turn it back on, The only way to prevent someone from (eventually) uploading a law in your upload is to either babysit it or kill them. If its nonhuman you have no obligation to not kill them.
>>147135852
I did, When he went to upload it. I waited until then. Then he tried to run because he knew he fucked up but it was too late.
>>147135901
Nonhuman? Possibly if I feel they are liable to harm the crew.
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>>147135858
hell yeah man securing high risk items is a bad thing
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>>147135886
>Well if he was an IAA that's understandable cause they shouldn't be doing that shit. It's a high rp role.


>its a high rp role, you can't attack people who are trrying to kill you, please fear rp

>>>/bay/
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>>147135821
>>147135852
then you play APC hot potato until he moves the console to fuck you. Best to just fuck their shit for being a subversive prick.
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>have plan to sneak onto the station and start fucking shit up
>vox friend wants to kidnap a guy
>we do so
>silicon fucking saw us
>have to escape now
>chasing engiborg around outpost for a long time
>decide fuck it and buy an esword
>destroy it
>encounter two miners and fight them with vox bro
>it was a 1 for 1 trade i never wanted to make
>miner corpse is gone
>borg fucks my shit up
>die
>mfw borg harm batoning my corpse through main station
also how the fuck did you bolt all our doors?
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>>147135283
Proof? I know Kurt is the sort of guy that shoots people who he dislikes and think are about to do something.
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>>147135929
Just ban yourself from silicon jesus christ
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>>147135929
Did he prove at any point that he will harm humans, or he is a threat? Why don't you bolt the armory/caplaser/science shut roundstart? They can get guns too, you know.
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>>147135930
Its already secured in the glass box anon.
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>>147135779
Here's what you should have done.
Locked down the upload power to ask what the fuck im doing
Stun lock until a human can arrive
Power down and make me drop the freeform board so you can see what is going on
>>147135858
>Securing important items as captain is bad
You're literally retarded. I'm going cap all night just to piss you off now.
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>>147135960
Welcome to the thread, enjoy your baits and underages.
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>>147135986
cool, it's his captainly prerogative to take it out of the glass box and secure it elsewhere

kill yourself out of /vg/ if you think players will ever be forced to play for you want them to
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>>147135957
go find his unban request which passed. He shot two vox to death on the shuttle because they were messing around.
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>>147135945
If you want to be sec, play sec. you shouldn't be breaking the rules you're supposed to enforce.

>>147135948
I prayed for the power of VOX GIT OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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http://ss13.moe/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2624&p=12462#p12462

VOTE
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>>147136082
>forum
it belongs in the garbage
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>>147136019
>Stun lock
Yeah buddy ill leave that powered on upload console within slappin distance while you get stunned only a few seconds after you get up :^) Sure gonna let a nonhuman upload who knows what.
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>>147136073
No sorry, I'm going to keep playing whatever role I want and playing it in whatever way I want. Does it upset you when the IAA you're trying to suck pulls out a taser and spaces your unrobust bay-emigrant ass?
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>>147136082
Already voted no
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>>147136057
Oh I just checked and the admin was soca, I'm not even going to bother checking if the ban was justified or not since they're such a shitty admin.

I don't know how they're not deadminned yet, horrible person.
And if the non antags were really shooting people for a gimmick they should get a permanent role ban request.
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>>147136181
One of them stunned a guy with a stun revolver yeah. The other did nothing but speak. They even put away their guns before Kurt lasered them to death.
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anyone have the proof that socachaca is an overweight furry who does rape ERP on f-list? can't search on archive
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>>147136082
>every friday the 13th
I'm ok with that and that alone.
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>>147136252
>One of them stunned a guy with a stun revolver yeah.

Which sec is allowed to respond to lethally. Sounds like Kurt did the right thing.
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>>147136326
except kurt was IAA, which is not sec, it's a glorified assistant
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>two vox boys wuz walking onto the escape shuttle after buying some skittles
>they gettin they lives together n shit, just came from the chapel
>suddenly the white devil known as 'kurt' whipped out he gun and attacked both them good vox boys, who dindu nuffin wrong and certainly were not shooting the crew

This is 100% what happened, you are a racist FUCK if you say otherwise! #voxlivesmatter
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>>147136057
>because they were messing around

Let's not do this guy

the vox shot a gun on the shuttle and said they were hijacking it. They basically forfeit their lives at that point.

What is it you people don't understand about the fact that birds are literally niggers in universe and should be treated as such, ESPECIALLY if they haven't even been formally trained or indoctrinated by Nanotrasen

If you play vox trader you have to accept people are going to want to kill you. You have to accept that they will usually be in the right if you mess around RP wise. You think anyone would take that shit in a realistic scenario? The answer is no. you'd get fucking shot, and you'd deserve it.

Here's what should happen: Vox Trader should have relatively lax admin oversight. They can do questionable things, at the cost of being valid when they do said questionable things. It's the only way that the job makes sense, and it's the only way you'll see anything come out of Vox Trader besides the occasional ship trying to trade with the crew. As it stands right now it's basically just a challenge role where people take it on so they won't have IDs, won't spawn on the station, and won't hand silicon protection but starting out with suits and being able to get into space quickly. They hardly do anything interesting or out of the ordinary and are mostly a bland addition to the game.

When they DO do something interesting, all parties involved are subject to admin scrutiny and usually people get bans/notes/warnings. That's not okay, because it stifles creativity for no good reason because some people can't handle the fact that off station vox are LITERALLY niggers and getting involved with them should ALWAYS end horribly in some way.
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>tfw inti-kun will never dick your cervix
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>>147136326

nigger IAA is not sec they are a glorified assistant in a black/blue suit
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>>147136384
Doesn't matter what role you are, if there's a pair of vox storming onto the escape shuttle and shooting random crewmembers with illegally obtained tasers, you get to kill them.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're new here. This isn't a server where you're allowed or not allowed to fight antagonists based on your job. You're allowed to defend yourself and your crewmembers as any job, assistant or otherwise, and this is encouraged.
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>>147136491
From what I heard, he was basically one of the only people on the shuttle and pretty much everyone was dead. It's okay for even an IAA in that case to start murdering some fucking spacebirdniggers.

Let's take a step back and look at what happened:

Vox come onto shuttle

One of them fires an assault rifle and says they're hijacking the shuttle.

Are you going to tell me that it's not okay to kill them? They're not crewmembers, they don't matter to anyone except themselves, if we'd look at it from an RP perspective, pretty much EVERYONE would already hate the living shit out of them. They steal shit, they do bad shit, they might even want to kill you. Why would you hold back? Why would you even want to non-lethally detain them? For regular crewmembers we can pretty reasonably deduce Nanotrasen doesn't want its employees to die, which is why security are issued non-lethal weaponry to solve disputes between crew members.

Why should people that aren't even crew members have that luxury? They're basically antagonists without the license to do whatever they want. Why should literally anyone care if they live or die?
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vox is going to get removed soon anyway
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>>147136696
Not traders

Traders SHOULDN'T be removed. They have a lot of potential, people just have to realize that they play a very different role than regular station vox.
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>>147136854
Traders are exactly what should get removed if anything.
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>>147129079
>https://discord.gg/2B3Uz
so, that discord thing is just a chat?
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>>147136892
Why?
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>>147136854
its a role where everyone on the server has to agree on what it should be allowed to do, and you physically cant get the rules amended on vgstation, they've been trying for months

as it stands everyone has a different idea of what vox traders can do and how they should be treated, and it's leading to constant trouble, and bans by some of the shittier admins
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>>147136919
They bring nothing but a half-assed gimmick that players are only using to greytide.>>147136919
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>>147136909
It's a VoIP channel where you unite with your fellow VGstation players to defeat the lawyer, who is a vampire.
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>>147137045
And just what's wrong with that? It's better than having them as assistants running around

At least Traders are actually justified in behaving like little shits, they canonically ARE
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>>147137087
>join the meta chat so we can greytide and cover eachother
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>>147137134
>laws desu
difference is if an assistant starts firing an assault rifle on the shuttle and killing people I can put him down without fear of getting banned.

>>147137202
literally this, I remember a time when teamspeaking metagaming was a bannabale offense, now we publically fucking endorse it
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>>147137346
That's a problem with admins, not traders
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>>147137346
Jesus christ stop bringing up the fucking assault rifle ban, everyone admits it was a bad ban and nuke removed the ban and talked to Soca about it.

Fucking fuck off you little cunt.
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allahu ackbar
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>>147137134
>And just what's wrong with that?
You mean what's wrong with making a pure RP gimmick role that gives the players super strong space suits and encouraging them to greytide is not wrong?
>It's better than having them as assistants running around
It's worse because assistants are easy to track and deal with.
>canon
Are you trying to bait for a "gback2bay" response or something?

All I'm gathering from you is that you defend traders just to funnel greytiders into traders so you can compaign to get traders removed later too.
But the greytiders won't leave, that job will.
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>>147137487
>point out bad adminship in attempts for said admins to admit their mistakes/ explain their reasoning behind the bane in order to prevent future bans

>LOL FUCK OFF YOU CUNT WE UNBANNED HIM THAT;S ENNOOOUUUGGGGHH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>147137597
>everyone admits it was a bad ban and nuke removed the ban and talked to Soca about it.
>everyone admits it was a bad ban and nuke removed the ban and talked to Soca about it.
do you lack reading comprehension
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>ai murderbone during low pop
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>>147137715
>murderbone
>malf ai converting people to borgs

that word doesn't mean what you think it means
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>>147137715
DUDE WHY DO YOU HATE FUN LMAO
BET YOU HATE PURGE DAY LOL JUST RELAX BRO
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why is it that getting 'talked to' is all that ever happens to shitty admins?

if you look at socachaca's ban logs he bans like one person per month and it is always a shitty decision, the only reason he isn't already demoted is because he bans so scarcely, but when he does ban it's at a near-100% 'shitty ban' rate
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>>147137715
>>147137746
sometimes people have fun at your expense.
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>>147137775
LOL DUDE THATS WHY WE NEED PURGE DAYS LOL
GET SOME STEAM OFF, MURDERBONE ANY TIME YOU WANT LOL
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>>147137772
because she's a woman
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>>147137746
I have great news for you. If you want a comforting social chat experience where antagonists aren't allowed to hurt you, there's another server where that's already the way!

Just head over to Bay!
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>>147137838
>tells someone who wants more purge days to go to bay
?????
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/vg/station should have no rules
Lifeweb has that and it works great
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>>147137919
I genuinely agree. Rule 0 is the only thing we need.
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>>147137819
how assblasted can you possibly be

>>147137919
lifeweb's a very different game though
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MEANWHILE ON....Hippie?

http://dramatica-station.wikia.com/wiki/Dramatica_Station_Wikia
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>>147137960
>implying that someone is assblasted
You're the only one upset if anything.
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>>147138051
have you taken a look at your posts family
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>>147137960
How is lifeweb very different, and how does this make it suitable for no-rules while vgstation is unsuitable?
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>>147138110
My only post? I'm telling someone that they're showing to be butthurt.
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>>147138132
Does lifeweb have any way to consistently, quickly, and easily kill off 90+% of the station like ss13 does? Plasmaflooding and singuloosing are no joke, and any person who's gone engineering once can do either

>>147138225
Yeah see the thing is I don't believe you
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>>147138304
That's butthurt.
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>>147138339
okay
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>>147138423
Butthurt.
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>>147138304
>Does lifeweb have any way to consistently, quickly, and easily kill off 90+% of the station like ss13 does

Yeah, maxcap bombs can be completed about 60s into the round on lifeweb

The way it's solved is that if someone misbehaves with bombs, in the following round, lifeweb's security team rushes to the bombmaking area and buries the offender alive so he can't do it again
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how do I make a ghetto space suit

I keep hearing about it but ive never seen it
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>>147133919
>literal brain damaged bird mutants known for thievery and treason
>"Let's put them in charge of a multi-million dollar research project!"
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>>147138453
What prevents said offender from attempting to bomb everyone at roundstart every round, forever?
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>>147138476
Vox aren't the only nonhumans.
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>>147138512
nothing, it's just that people will see him readying up as a certain job (lifeweb tells you what ckey is readied as what job) and then rush to go stun that person and bury him alive, the lifeweb equivalent of spacing
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>>147138476
>m-muh headcanon...
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>>147138597
whats lifewebs location

i lost it when updated byond
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How to fix SS13:

- longer rounds

- no rules

Shitters get brained with a toolbox, stuffed in a locker and spaced, then are out of the game for three or four hours. It's like how real-life crime is prevented, except the consequences are lower and dealing with the criminals is easier. Everything is game-sized.
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>>147138720
by having no rules you are shortening rounds
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>>147138847
Tell that to lifeweb with its 3-5 hour rounds
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>>147138606
>m-muh halos in muh thpathe gameth~
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>>147138902
it has respawns
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>>147138994
What did he mean by this?
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>>147138902
No engineering department in lifeweeb

No bombs
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>>147139291
>No engineering department in lifeweeb

there's an engine and it's obnoxious to maintain, not sure what you mean here

>No bombs

this is just straight up wrong, you haven't played lifeweb
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>>147139359
I mean you have nothing that makes the world unusable

Like singuloose, plasma flood, shard delamination, or bombcap bombs
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>>147138584
And no non-humans should be heads. Be they grey, cat, or dyke.
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>>147139148
really makes you think...
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>>147139431
well apparently they do, it's just that people stop other people from fucking shit up too badly.

Remember how people evolved during the purge to end the silicons and try to stop plasma fuckery every round? It's probably something like that, except they have more tools to figure out when someone's going to do it.
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>ending the peaceful and nonthreatening and mildly retarded rise of cargonia
Awww.
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>tfw made a 5dev on my first time
I will reach the bombcap soon, and beyond
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>psycho bundle
>one warden and a captain
>captain later goes braindead
>don't feel the need to murderbone, just emag my way into the hop and steal the jumpsuit
>go to engineering to fix power
>try to emag a mommi but fail miserably
>AI uploads a photo of me on the net, then issues a wanted manifest
>I tell over the radio I didn't want to make any trouble
>go to brig and ask the warden if he wants truce or war
>he chooses war
>he dies

Why do people do this?
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>>147139449

lesbians written out of asimov when.
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>2 emags so that I can hold one in each hand to emag twice as fast
>4 toolboxes so that I can make cool patterns on the ground.
>make 3 or 4 mommis and emag them all
>they get my target
>let them do whatever they want
>shuttle gets here but it is chilly
>friendly mommi warms in up with a plasma fire
>roll around in my emags and toolboxes next to a cozy shuttle fire.
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>>147140683
never ever
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>>147140670
>I wuz jus tryna be a friendly antag, why did you fucking powergamers attack me?

hmmm i wonder which station you could be from
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>>147140820
Retarded question but how do you emag a mommi?
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>>147140670
Kek, I was he mommi you failed to get, nice job mate, I enjoyed pinging you repeatedly from the vents
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>>147140919

emag/unlock if you are a scientist
crowbar to open the cover
emag the inside until it gives a notification it has been emagged

You just flash the mommi once or twice during so that they can't react.

Catching mommis is hard, my advice is to make them yourself and flash upon creation.
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>>147140919

I forgot to mention, if you emag a mommi and you have the telecrystals, offer the damn thing your emag. A mommi running around with an emag can cause a monumental amount of havoc and subvert/emag all of the borgs on the station without you getting your hands dirty.
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>wrapped locker teleporter nullspaces you if the wrapped version gets IED
>you can teleport the nuke disc outside of the z-level
shit this is lovely
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>>147141050
>>147141168
Cool, thank you Felicity
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Why is everyone so ridiculously rude to waifus? The next time I see one of you FUCKS mouthing off to my waifu I'm going to beat the shit out of you, capiche?
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>>147141280
How to get banned: the post
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>>147141456
>capiche
It's "capisce", you ignorant donkey
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>>147141536
It's whatever I say it is, lameo. Capiche?
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>>147141638
How about you say that to my face and not on a chinese cartoon board, capisce?
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>tfw Felicity will never kidnap and torture you.
>she will never break you and the forcibly remove you brain to put into a mommi slaved to her
>she will never have you make origami hearts for Ashe while trapped in your brain prison for eternity.

Why do I even wake up in the morning.
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>>147142180
Maybe today will be the day! Don't give up yet!
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When are we going to remove the courtroom? Trials are literally only used by dindu antags who were caught red-handed and whine for a trial they know will never actually take off because nobody gives a shit about trials.

>"Oh but it isn't MY syndicate item I was framed :^)"
>"I demand a trial and if u kill me I AHELP"
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>>147142676
If he's an antag he can't ahelp. Just borg/kill/perma him
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so i spoofed my routers mac address and got a new external IP, and I'm STILL banned. How the fuck does Byond manage that? Do they have a registry token installed on my computer somewhere?
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>>147142986
Yeah, use a vm or another computer
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>>147142986
Yes
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could any other gases be used to cold cryocells instead of oxygen?
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>>147143059
do you know where it is located?
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>>147143074
When in doubt, use plasma.
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Its been like 6 months and nobody answered my appeal. I was being griefed by an admin and when i stood up for myself the told me i was valid hunting.
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>>147143216
seriously, is the gas absorbed by the patient in the cell? or it just cools them?
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Slaver raid game mode when
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>>147142180
>>147142486
The fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>147143459
Nothing, now that you gave them their (you)s
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>>147140939
>a mommi not wanting to be carded
Literal autism
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>>147143556
itll keep happening until we get forced random names on occassion.
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reminder
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>>147143605
>there are no chemical concoctions that fizzle and expire in a short amount of time
>no reactions that go through a middle reaction you have to utilize before it becomes another reaction/useless
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>>147143410
I have no idea, sorry. I know nitrogen is usable as a coolant in but I don't think it works as well as oxygen.
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>there is no special wizard alcheny set which he can order with his spellbook, which lets him make love potions and deadly poisons and magic enhancers and delicious condiments
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>>147142676
>AHELP
this is just pathefic, why they are keep doing it? its just does not work, since "act like antag, get treated like antag"
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So when you set a TTV, I hear it toggles zburn 3 times to determine the bomb size. I have no idea what zburn is, could anyone detail me through it?
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>>147140670
Well I mean, I could have just door crushed you.
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>>147143787
>love potions
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>>147143847
The proc is here:
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/blob/Bleeding-Edge/code/ZAS/Fire.dm#L262
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>>147143909
>sad kimochi when I'm enjoying drinks in the bar with my waifu, but the bartender is a disguised wizard who drugs my waifu's drink with love potion then takes her back to his den and has lots of messy sex with her as she moans on the radio

sigh...
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why admin notes arent public anyways, they are giving them out everytime when asked anyways
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>>147144001
So that players can't read the notes of other players.
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>>147144001
some years back, admins were upset that they were being criticized for making retarded notes on people
so they hid notes and pretended it was to hide metacomms notes
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>>147144032
why
it's not like someone will use them to metagrudge or something
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possible bad idea:
>slime people added to round start
>can't be healed by cryo
>10% chance to knock down when doing a melee damage, 5 second cool down
>take 10% more damage from lasers but have a 20% chance for lasers to go through them dealing no damage
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>>147144001
>>147144032
>>147144068
What are admin notes?
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