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>>147048481
Memes
>>147048471
i donno man it seems like an advanced version of this
compacted and nautical themed. looks like heavy SEAL armor or something imo
>want to side with House, but then m'waifu will have a heart attack
REEEEEEE
>>147048481
FUCKING ARMOR BLA BLA BLA FUCKING CAPES BLA BLA BLA FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEE
I did it for you guys..
big mutie penor
oh neat a new vegas image is the OP this time
Piper farts.
>>147048616
Why did Bethesda have to fuck it up by making the helmet look like this, instead of normal like your pic?
>enclave turn themselves into cyborgs to survive the moon better
Would you like it /fog/?
>>147046504
> don't call it Riot Armor, because it is impractical for riots and melee.
it's riot armor
with a coat over it
???
>>147048753
no more 50's sci fi?
>>147048794
sounds neat, maybe if they all turn out like gen 2 synths, or the borg and became souless killing machines in mostly flesh bodies.
>tfw when you finally be fix your shit in CK after 4 hours of mind fucking and pondering.
Now I can continue working with my daughterfu mod.
In survival mode, what's the ideal sleeping time? When you're tired, how many hours should you sleep before the 'tired' wears off? If you're overtired or whatever comes after tired, should you sleep longer?
starting my 2nd play through after only playing for a month after release is there a way to kill brotherhood and railroad for minutemen i want to make a cult of personality and i wont feel safe knowing theres another faction is out there undermining me
>>147048794
that space suit is completely impractical. at least tuck the cuffs of the pants into your boots and seal it up.
>>147048825
the coat is asking someone to pull on it. even antifia don't wear trenchcoats, and they're even edgier than NV fans.
>>147049026
You can kill every faction for Minuteman. They're the Yes man ending.
>>147049132
>completely impractical
They're cyborgs
Also BBC budget
>>147049164
Did Bethesdia mess up the way combat armor looks in fallout 4?
>>147049213
Do factions even stay mad at you if you kill unnamed NPC? Did that even happen in fallout 3, or was it just new vegas where a real faction system existed?
>>147049132
The coats weren't worn during riots, The NCR added the coats over them, and also the military because idk desert.
W H Y
>>147049469
don't get it
>>147049132
>the coat is asking someone to pull on it
Oh. Dude, what are you arguing about? That a fictional post apocalyptic faction projected from a fantasy world of retrofuturism isn't utilizing armor exactly how you would?
>>147049469
For those who can't understand compass and map markers.
>>147049301
I think there was a flag in 3 you set off when you attack the BOS or the Outcasts that made them all aggressive. In 4 I think if you attack the BOS before doing Danse's quest then once you finish his quest they're unaggressive again.
>>147049469
They wanted to reuse the Clairvoyance spell from Skyrim's files.
>>147049428
It's hot, I know, I'll wear a restrictive trenchcoat over my restrictive armor! I won't even bother to button up the coat, thus defeating the purpose of wearing it in the first place. Who cares if I get sand everywhere, so long as edgelords think it's kewl.
>>147049509
yes. no one would do this, it's stupid. prove me wrong. show me one real world example of an elite soldier wearing a trenchcoat over combat armor.
>>147049830
You can't button up a duster moron, and do you know who else wears long clothing in the desert? Middle eastern people and cowboys..
>>147048785
I donno man it might just be you
>>147049469
they should have made it so you could track targets on your HUD or something, maybe gate personal map markers behind it.
or you know, replace it with something entirely different.
>>147049914
>can't button up a duster
belt it up then, if you're too poor for buttons.
If I want to side with the BoS, should I even bother doing anything Father tells me or am I supposed to do stuff for him until later in the story?
Please help
Why do you keep enabling turbo-autists.
>>147049830
You have never been to the desert
You acclamate to heat, but youll never get all the sand out
>>147049830
>show me one real world example
Nobody, because nobody in modern times wears combat armor, they may have armor in their vests but most of the time it's too heavy.
>>147050121
It doesn't have a belt either.. It might have buttons but it's a Bethesda game still so don't expect to actually see any... >>147048481 oh yeah it does, but still doing that would be constrictive like wearing a corset, and wearing the armor over the coat would be even worse, and look even stupider.
post comfy adventure
Are the think tank the most dangerous force in fallout?
>>147050848
No, it's the aliens.
>>147050803
>>147050891
>wearing power armor in the glowing sea
S M H T B H F A M
>>147050374
I live on a desert continent cunt, you don't know sand like I do
>>147050625
>nobody in modern times wears combat armor
I'll give you a minute to muse on this
>It doesn't have a belt either
>>147049830
check this out right
humans have dressed in some real silly gear in our history, especially in combat
look at this insane shit no one would wear that for practical fighting it's all showboating
it's because combat hadn't evolved to really demand the need of khaki and camo and stuff and people were more interested in making their army look neat
nowadays we know our shit and have lots of knowledge on combat and combat training and know not to dress our soldiers like retards
but check it out right
what if you nuked society and reverted them back to the stone age. not the literal stone age tho, a weird hybrid of a societal reset on top of a graveyard full of futuristic technology.
you'd probably get people who, not quite understanding specifics of and learning modern combat, misuse armor, and wear stuff purely because it looks cool. showboating.
raiders ranging from junkie retards to organized bandits do this, I don't see why the elite veteran class of an army wouldn't wear something to look intimidating.also, it's to appeal to the cowboy aesthetic.
>tfw WotW mod never
>>147050985
>judging how other people enjoy the game
lmaoing @ ur life
>>147051015
But do you live, and work, in the desert?
You do not leave skin revealed to the sun. Coats cover clothes/skin from sand. See: poncho
>>147051124
>you will never ride the hms thunder child
>>147051015
look at op's pic there is no belt.. it is a real western horse riding duster, meant to keep trail dust and sand off of you something a ranger vet in California would be doing a lot, whether its walking, hiking, or riding the seemingly none exist horses seen in the comic.
>>147051145
>i'm casual and proud
L O L
>>147051032
>cowboy aesthetic
so who no spurs or cowboy hat. if you're going for style over substance, why not commit?
>>147051190
see pic
would that soldier be better if he had a trechcoat on over hid kit?
>>147051032
Yeah I mean explain why power armor is grey ceramic, or even worse in the case of T45-60 shiny steel..
Look at the legion, or raiders, why do you think they wear red colors, flags, dog helmets, masks, rebar, and bones? Because all of those things strike fear into the enemy.
>>147050985
I was only using the power armor to take screenshots pham. I I haven't even used power armor to progress through the game. Since my ENB and the weather mod makes taking screenshots fun.
>>147051403
They literally do wear that, except spurs are useless when you are shooting revolvers at roman football players with spears and shotguns while on a rocky desert hill... so they wear combat and hiking boots instead.
>>147051234
Chris Avellone
>"it was never my intention that there were any horses." He went on to say that "there were parts of the New Vegas design where we specifically removed the mention of horses from certain narrative points (one of Raul’s stories originally referenced horses, for example, and we cut them because we didn’t want to imply horses still existed)."
>>147051403
He's fully covered (like a duster). Those layers are bound to be hotter than a loose duster as well
Youre wrong. Just stop posting and bitch about the guns again or somethin :^)
>>147051476
I see. Alright then, you cool.
Reminder:
T-51=APA>Fo3 APA=Hellfire>T-45=Tactics PA>Raider>T-60
>>147051642
amen
>>147051535
>>147051552
Why put a redundant and restrictive coat over armor, when you can be just as armored and protected from the elements with less clothing?
It's a silly, impractical aesthetic choice, but capeshit appeals to edgy teenagers I guess.
ghillie suit mod when?
>>147051547
so are horses dead or no?
I don't like how Bethesda keeps turning comfy natural wild and farm animals like wolves, rabbits, chickens, fish, and deer into radioactive disgusting editable giant monsters.
I just want to hunt deer and rabbit, then return to my farm with my cows chicken and pigs that don't all have cancer and radiation poisoning.
WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TWO HEADS?
I'm alright with Brahmin having two heads, but why is everything bald and sickly looking, why are the carrots, "tomatos-potatoes" watermellon, and corn all mutated too? It's been a long time since the bombs dropped.
>>147051821
The rule of cool...
>>147051642
>APA OR X-01 :^)
>>147051547
It's funny, considering that all of the NCR troops are dressed like Cavalry soldiers, and the tie-in comic explicitly indicates that the NCR uses horse cavalry.
>>147051821
That pic you posted does not have armor that functions like a duster
Cry about something else and stop shitting up the threads with your preferred style
No one cares
>>147052207
m8, in the quote, he's specifically about the tie-in comic and how wrong it is.
>>147052089
>>147052207
I don't know. I think there were references to pack mules in a previous game, but that may have been an idiom. Some other critter might have been the beast of burden. Or, horses and donkeys are around somewhere.
The Avellone quote is apparently legit though.
>>147052429
>That pic you posted does not have armor that functions like a duster
Exactly, Brandon Lee had a hard enough time keeping all of his edge underneath that coat. There would be no room for a set of armor.
>>147052447
Which was my point - the NCR troopers are all wearing Cavalry gear. If you really want to distance yourself from that whole "horses" thing, dressing all of the soldiers like they come from a military with a Cav tradition seems a bit idiotic.And I say that as somebody who really likes NV.
>>147051403
they werent exactly going for style over substance. i think they struck a nice balance.
>>147050889
Counter-argument: think tank created Cazadors.
>>147052429
>preferred style
>style
No worries, Brokeback, I'll leave your fashion choices alone.
>>147052648
Aren't those like blood bugs but bigger?
So what who cares..
Also I'm in the only one annoyed by how getting poisoned turns you green?
>>147052576
>There would be no room for a set of armor.
And look what that did for him.
>>147051805
That's a nice screenshot anon.
>started Survival playthrough in Fo4 yesterday
>get first legendary from guaranteed starry roach in Omega relay basement next to Sanctuary
>Assassin's Laser Musket
>>147052578
>>147052447
>>147052207
>>147051547
I really wish they didn't opt to have horses be extinct in the fallout universe, because i think they'd be a cool addition. but this comes from someone who likes the aesthetic of riding a horse through a post apocalyptic wasteland
at least have some mounts, tho. how the hell does everyone get around if no one uses cars? apparently vertibirds are the only working vehicles in the fallout universe
>settlement happiness stuck at 95
i-is it safe to leave the area?
>>147048481
My game keeps taking screenshots every .5 seconds
any ideas?
Nowhere close to seaworthy yet but shes getting there. Was making a little minisub lifeboat prefab earlier before I got into bed because I hit some mapper's block figuring out how to build the bow section and bridge/crew section
And how should I handle the player potentially falling/slipping/being thrown into the ocean? I know I can rad them to death, but I would love to have something akin to to HL2's leeches or the brine in Dragon's Dogma get rid of you if you try to sudoku off the side of the ship or something.
>>147052851
>>147053020
play them in sequence to simulate the console experience
>>147052951
fallout 2 has a working motorcycle
>>147053081
yeah i was being a bit facetious. im pretty sure working vehicles are commonplace in the fallout universe outside of where the games actually take place, but it'd still be neat to see some wastelanders roaming around on horses.
>>147052951
>haven't played Fallout Tactics
The only reason why Bethesda Fallout games don't have cars and motorbikes is their shit Morrowind engine.
>>147053030
Why is the hull upside down?
>>147053181
which is where i totally think horses could come in, since their engine can handle horses fine.
>>147053005
pls respond
benevolent leader is the least fun achievement of all time tbqh
>>147053030
>And how should I handle the player potentially falling/slipping/being thrown into the ocean?
Mirelurk Hatchlings. Tons of Mirelurk Hatchlings. Could have them infesting a reef beneath the ship or something.
>>147048481
a fucking cape
>>147053030
1. take gulper/anglerfish monster from far harbor
2. make it giant
3. replace legs with fins
ezpz
>>147053253
it's safe
>>147053293
>a duster
FTFY
>>147052951
The NCR has trucks, the Master had trucks with steam-engines, a few cars and motorcycles work.
>>147053350
Wasn't there a bug that caused happiness to decrease when away from the settlement?
It's at 96 now, going up so incredily slowly and I don't want to fuck it up. Over an hour from 92 to 96
>>147053492
It takes a long time to go up in the 90's, my settlement reached 100 while I was away.
>>147053264
It's out on the open ocean so the water is extremely deep, i think the water level is like -2048 or something
Havent quite decided how the player finds the ship, its a tossup between finding it beached and needing to restart the engines and promptly getting coldcocked to begin the mod proper, or if you and the guy who suckers you into looking for the ship just get your boat smashed into and thats what kicks off you being trapped on the ship
>>147053492
I think the 'ticks' are every half hour, so to get it to 100 will take another 2 hours, assuming you can hit that cap.
The bug you're talking about doesn't always happen. Up to you if you want to chance it.
>>147053773
>I think the 'ticks' are every half hour, so to get it to 100 will take another 2 hours, assuming you can hit that cap.
well it's just gone to 97, after less than 10 mins on 96. I think I'll just wait
>>147053737
Do you think 4x tier 3 clinic, 2 people on food and 5 cats is enough for 100?
>>147053264
>>147053749
desu, I liked your idea last time that you just start in a random room with no introduction, and later find a room filled with your previous clone corpses.
>>147053878
>Do you think 4x tier 3 clinic, 2 people on food and 5 cats is enough for 100?
Yeah, that sounds fine. I just setup all of my 2 people settlements up with a tier 3 bar and some mutfruit plants + purified water in the workbench. Had 5 settlements go to 99 and got stuck but Greentop Nursery popped at 100.
>>147053878
>Do you think 4x tier 3 clinic, 2 people on food and 5 cats is enough for 100?
should be, assuming you have only 6 settlers. each level 3 clinic adds 30/settler count in happiness. cats are 5 or 10 each, divided by settlers.
>>147054247
>>147054119
It's stopped at 98. no more green arrow
fuck this
>>147054037
Thats what happens after you wind up on the ship, you wake up in a room, get dressed, take the pistol and the 20 rounds it came with and then try not to die this time.
I have an idea for how to implement persistent between loops storage as well, kinda like the warehouses in Mystery Dungeon games. That way if you play it smart and manage to find those safe spots you can stockpile whatever you can't carry in that room and it'll persist if you die.
>>147048794
>enclave turn themselves into cyborgs
Hello fellow necron, I'm Szarekh and I'll be your guide in this wonderful journey
>>147050154
Pls respond
>>147054473
you're fine as long as you don't relay to mass fusion from the institute
>>147054323
Try some tier 3 bars instead of clinics, or a mix of both. But I do remember seeing something about bars giving a little more happiness...
>>147054590
it went to 99 with a red downward arrow
this is illogical
>>147054443
Eat poopHehee I said poop
>>147054651
Yeah the settlement happiness is pretty nutty, dunno what else to say but to try another settlement.
>>147053030
Why is it upside down?
>>147052690
>bethesda's design choices bad
you know there's a board called /fa/ on 4chan that will help you find something other than band t shirts and camo pants
but that'd be too impractical for a "manly" guy like you huh
bet you get all the chicks with your manly presence :^) (no dork/murderer vibes)
>>147054747
got it by assigning settlers to their beds
assumed they would have the mental ability to pick their own beds, but no
>>147055069
How strange, glad to hear you got it figured out!
>>147054858
It isn, that's just the way the hull is built.
This is just one example from the artbook, only the one ship with the norwegians actually is in the game though.
>people are still making/using mods to cheat
I hate everyone else
If Nuka World is actually good and not an utter disappointment I will suck my cock and take a picture.
>>147055149
it was harder than it ought to have been because the 2 default settlers are farmers and can't be reassigned. I think they were still using their shitty bed in the shack (nordhagen beach)
can someone tell me realistically when we can expect some good lewd mods for Fallout 4? I know it usually takes the scene a year or so to really start making progress but am I falsely assuming it should be faster based on the the combined experience of the community?
I really want to be a naked, dirty, fertile, rapeslave to a group of filthy amoral raiders
>>147054989
You just can't quit me. Lonely on the trail, cowboy?
>>147049004
six hours will get you back to normal
eight will give you the well rested perk
note that you can't sleep 6 hours on a sleeping bag or mattress. so you can get rid of your overtired (I think) on one of those, but you'll still be tired
>>147055182
>Beth's story dlcs
>bad
This is going to be fun, for everyone involved.
>>147055324
>gay panic
little insecure? (just like ur pic related...)
>>147053030
>>147053749
just have them hit a trigger that spawns some kind of enemy that can attack over or on water, once they reach the floor, like the angler fish but well that has legs, and I'm not sure if it can attack you on water.
>>147053297
The gulper is a salamander.
>>147055151
is that how boats work? I feel like it would flip over or something due to weight and boyency, the tanker from fallout 2 wasn't like that at all, but if bethesdia wants it to look over the top sci-fi 50's sure..
>>147055187
Well it depends on what you're looking for. Meshes/textures/outfits are coming along fairly well currently, but because we can't make new animations, you aren't going to see any more... creative mods for a bit.
>>147055590
>still mad about capeshit
we all know why you like cowboys
My survival roleplay is coming together so lovely in terms of story, but I'm bored my character's skill set a little
fuck
>>147055910
Wasnt actually cowboy guy but youre still a dumbass
Armor looked cool who cares its a video game
>>147053005
Get Cats, a lot of cats.
>>147054858
>>147055151
It's called a tumblehome hull
The benefits are that it lowers the center of mass, and though it doesnt matter for a cargo/cruise ship, it makes boarding actions harder
>>147051403
holy fucking shit, /k/ is killing the general. Why can't "it looks cool" or it just it being an aesthetic be an answer? jesus christ calm your autism and learn what fucking artistic vision is, WHY ISNT EVERYONE WEARING FULL TACTICAL GEAR 24/7
>>147056030
>still mad that meme armor got called out for being stupid
>>147055182
>I will suck my cock
How?
>>147055445
See anon, I could get excited and hope I can raze Diamondcity and the rest of the Commonwealth in a drug fuelled barrage of bullets. Destroying every faction including the Minutemen... or I can just assume it's going to be the Minutemen painted with a Raider skin doing radiant quests over and over.
Why do all of my companions love to repeat themselves even when it's completely unrelated?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRg4x4sv87Y
>>147056312
I really dont know man. I guess the washouts found a new game to pollute
>>147056312
The argument started because the duster is impractical and looks dumb over armor.
>>147056336
>needs to supplement masculinity with "tacticool" in video games
ok bud ;) i get the feeling you wont be deleting these cowboy pics anytime soon
>>147056312
>artistic vision
>>147056394
I just want Nuka World in the hopes I can blow Marcy Long to kingdom fucking come.
>>147056585
>still mad about capeshit
I got spurs that jingle, jangle, jingle
JINGLE JANGLE
>>147056409
>i'm confused this didn't sail here right
>i'm confused this didn't sail here right
>i'm confused this didn't sail here right
>i'm confused this didn't sail here right
>>147056807
Didnt this whole thing start with you tards being mad about capeshit? Don't see irony in that
U probably got distracted by all those cowboy butts i guess u forgot
why is this thread happening?
Jesus christ there's literally dozens of BoS paladins trying to stop me from blowing up their secret club
I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE CAPTAIN HERE
YOU'LL STILL DO ALL MY CHORES
LOOK AT ALL THESE MINUTEMEN
I DON'T CARE, IT'S ALL YOURS
ARE YOU READY? ARE YOU READY FOR THIS?
WE WILL NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET
I ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU TO RIP
BUT I AIN'T GONNA HELP WITH JACK SHIT
ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP
>>147056568
>impractical
How? There *is* a reason that it was developed as a piece of wear.
>>147056996
>still mad about capeshit
Oh look, the NCR Rangers are here. Backs to the wall, men.
>>147057329
Can't remember the last time I had clean fingernails.
We have water. We have stoves. We have bathtubs! Take a freaking bath or at least wash your hands. Seriously. I want to hose these skanky people down. There are 234 fancy hairbrushes in that workbench, dozens of clean outfits, bars of soap...I hoard everything! Stop...being... a filthy degenerate!
Seriously why is your face so dirty you look black? Your arms are pale white, what are you doing?
Is it possible to farm mini nukes in 4?
Capes and Cowboys are cool
>>147057384
Capes aren't cool, dusters and World war era long coats are..
>>147057514
Kill suiciders before the akbar.
>>147049132
You have autism. The coat is for intimidation but you wouldn't understand the concept of designing armour with anything but complete practicality in mind because you're on the spectrum.
It is also called a 'duster' for a reason, it keeps the dust off the important bits.
>NV fans
>edgy
Want to know how I know you're an idiot?
>>147057634
>dusters and World war era long coats are
seconded
What shooty laser should i give my shoot robutt for a hand?
>>147057634
you tell 'em, pardner
>>147057914
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE IS THAT FAGGOT COWBOY EDGY ASSHOLE WEARING ARMOR UNDER THAT COAT? WTF THAT ISN'T TACTICOOL AT ALL
I find Survival in 4 more irksome than actually fun. It all works great apart from the saving system. There are entire swaths of the game where you don't see a bed for hours. It stops being fallout and just becomes Bed Seeking Apocalyptic Simulator 2016
Seriously it results in so much backtracking and nonsense. I don't even mind no fast travel, in fact I welcome it, but fuck me just let me save when I want to, I don't want to have to autistically memorize all the nearby beds to whatever location I'm at.
>>147058002
the red one
>>147058008
>>147057384
>>147056336
>>147055910
>>147055324
>>147052690
/k/ please go
i've seen mods permaban for lesser shitposts
>>147057914
that makes sense, armor over the coat, 8/10
>>147057852
>intimidating cowboy
b-but Fiends like it rough, anon
>>147058002
Gatling
>>147058216
You do realize that your trigger is in fallout 4 as well? There are armored minutemen outfits with the armour underneath.
There are also canon aliens, robots, a lady with an authentic irish accent 200 years after a nuclear apocalypse, and gatling lasers. Your argument about muh realism really doesn't hold much weight.
Also holy fuck how triggered are you? Look at your clock, how much time have you spent mashing your post button for people who don't care and are obviously fans of the design? Get a fucking life
>>147058074
Literally the only part of the game where you don't see a bed every minute or so is the glowing sea
If you don't see a bed for a while, it's because you aren't looking hard enough
>>147058436
minutemen outfits are cloth over cloth
minutemen generals outfit is stupid for the same reason riot armor is, but at least it's one of a kind, not a uniform.
What's a good heavy gun, that's not an assault rifle or a minigun to use in power armor?
December's child is too tiny in my giant robo-hands
>>147058715
>it's different because it suits m-muh argument!!
Get fucked Bethdrone. I hate nu/fog/ so much.
>>147058436
he's lost the argument in the realism sense anyway
there's been a few posts he hasn't responded to that just blow his autism headcanon nonsense out of the water
>>147058637
>>147058074
get a camping mod or the mod that enables quicksaves
camping is just as immersion breaking as "i just killed an entire raider camp, i'll take a nap right here in the middle of their camp now"
>>147058873
I did not say it was different, I said it was bad for the same reason.
Obshillians are really bad at parsing things from short sentences. I should have added a couple of minutes of exposition so you would 'get it.'
>>147058926
You don't need a camping mod. There are beds fucking everywhere.
What you need is a mod that allows you to simply save at a bed without sleeping, and there is a mod like that that I use.
But beds are fuckign everywhere
>>147059084
i got it for Far Harbor. there were a total of 0 beds in most of the trapper and mutey camps I cleared once you reach the other end of the island
>>147058732
Gatling laser or missile launcher
>>147059146
m8, there are beds everywhere in far harbor too
Can anyone please upload the .esm/.ba2's of the contraptions workshop dlc? Codex installer doesn't want to install on my legit copy and the copy on http://local.grimtech.co.uk/files/Fallout_4_DLCs/
is missing the .esm file.
>>147059161
Gun, anon
I need a gun that shoots bullets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB9QEjbz_GU
>>147059228
i literally cleared 3 camps on the way to the vim factory, found no beds at any of those locations. the west end of the island is very sparse in beds despite having a lot of trappers and muteys
>>147058892
no I haven't
I asked for real world examples of soldiers wearing coats over armor and no one was able to come up with them.
Riot armor is designed with a specific purpose in mind and putting loose closthing over the top of it fucks with that purpose.
Open coats do not protect you from dust. The coats on NRC armor are so ill fitting, the have to have holes cut in them to accommodate the armor underneath. Not to mention the fact they are wearing a horsemans coat, when there are no horses.
It's stupid on multiple levels. The only meaningful refutation so far has been "Giddyup Cowboy."
I'm sorry if that triggers you.
>>147059254
Assault rifle
>>147059039
You excused it because it's 'one-of-a-kind.' That is implying that it's different for a completely senseless reason.
Bethdrones are bad at handling any sort of nuance. Perhaps I should have just called you autistic instead so there are clear good and bad sides.
>>147059375
On the way to the Vim factory from where? If you're talking about from Far Harbor, there is, of course, Acadia. There is the Old Pond House. There is a bed in Southwest Harbor (don't store your shit in the chest there, tho, it resets like immediately. I lost several fusion cores that way)
>>147059356
wow that annoying voice and 0 personality
thanks for sharing your god damn mess of a LP
>>147059565
This is just from memory, btw, I'm certain there are several more. I"m not sure if you need to save every 30 feet or so, but if not, there are plenty of beds
>>147059565
going in from Atomfag capitol
i'm sure there's some random tents too, but if you're talking about back tracking to a bed every time i kill a guy i prefer moving forward and finding beds along the way or just making a camp
doesn't make sense to me that a guy with an insatiable need for sleep wouldn't carry a sleeping bag or some shit.
>>147059376
>Open coats do not protect you from dust
I didn't realize you were an expert on the matter. They do and always will, your autism does not overwrite long, long years of tradition in the American southwest that completely and utterly blow you the fuck out without excuse.
You literally have nothing other than 'muh autism muh realism muh impracticality' and we've consistently said what I will say now - we don't care. Fuck off.
>>147059783
Why would you need to backtrack to a bed every time you kill a guy, you gigantic faggot?
Just make some fucking progress and then save when you can holy shit you are a pussy
>>147059783
Vim factory is like 100 yards from the Nucleus.
why would you need to sleep in that period of time; why would you need to save in that period of time?
and again, Southwest Harbor is a 10 second swim from the vim factory
Didn't kill and loot maxson during airship down. Is his unique gear lost forever now?
>>147058002
if not gatling, do the one with the sniper barrel
or the protectron auto hand. thats actually pretty effective and looks cool
>>147059829
again, 3 camps, half the muteys at the vim factor+ breaking into the factory, finding the code past a behemoth and close-quarters with 4 muteysand no bed nearby.
before I even knew about the camping mod all I could think was "why doesnt this retard just have a sleeping bag if he needs consistent sleep while exploring. why not just use the one clearly shown on the trapper armor backpack or something"
>>147060085
Sorry you die all of the time. For me, there are plenty of beds everywhere. Hell, I dont' even look for beds to save anymore. I just look for them to sleep, because survival is ridiculously easy and the only time I lose progress is when the game crashes
>Thanks for the info, I've already added it to the GunBehavior section under reload, then set a keyword and bound it as the reload for the Plasma rifle. I'll get a couple of images when I get home. Roughly 3 hours or so.
>Apr 11, 2016 11:49 PM
https://community.bethesda.net/thread/7689?start=0&tstart=0
>>147060251
>u die all of the time.
i was level 9 and went straight to far harbor
leveled trappers took more than 2 mags to kill, even to the face
for the record i didnt die in that example i posted but i thought i would for sure. i just kept thinking the whole time "why the fuck dont any of these houses have beds"
>had to get fallout 4 for ps4
>pc borked a month before fallout 4 came out
>got cucked by bethesda with console mods when i found out they were coming a month later
>cucked again just now with the delay
>been saving up money
>be able to afford a pretty good pc in less than a month
>got fallout 4 for pc while the sale was on
ya just gotta roll with it for a bit before it gets better
>>147059376
>I asked for real world examples of soldiers wearing coats over armor and no one was able to come up with them.
Tell me, have you ever seen a police officer walking a beat in the rain? I've seen plenty in a bad neighborhood I used to work in - funny, how they'd wear their coats over their vests.
>Riot armor is designed with a specific purpose in mind and putting loose closthing over the top of it fucks with that purpose.
I didn't realize you had a specialized insight into the development goals of a fictional piece of futuristic body armor.
>Open coats do not protect you from dust.
What. That's exactly what dusters do.
>>147060362
never expect anyone to deliver anything.
Why is kneecapper such a game breaking legendary on automatic weapons?
Holy shit I had to stop using my kneecapper combat rifle because it broke the game completely
I feel like the legendary effects are completely unbalanced where some are completely useless and other are game-breakingly OP
>>147059406
>You excused it because it's 'one-of-a-kind.' That is implying that it's different for a completely senseless reason.
I don't care if the general wants to peacock in impractical armor, wearing a silly hat. one guy, not on the front line.
I do care if 'elite troops' are given a uniform that flaps around like your mothers cunt lips. loose clothing is a hindrance in combat, moreso over bulky armor.
is that enough exposition for you, obshillian?
>>147052747
They're giant tarantula hawks that come at you in swarms of like 20 or greater and can kill you in a fraction of a second, even with good weapons and armor.
Fuck you and your "durr bethesda fallout only fallout" bullshit
>>147059795
dusters have buttons and are tied down on horseback. it's what the slit in the back and the tails are for, to cover your legs. you don't leave the coat open, or you will get dusty and wet.
so much for your appreciation of tradition. it apparently comes from California.
>>147060946
Is that 20% to cripple legs? Wouldn't wounding or explosive be even more overpowered?
>>147053181
They don't have actual vehicles because Bethesda doesn't want to ruin their illusion of a "large immersive open world".
You know how San Andreas looked like it had a huge map but when you turned the draw distance up and turned the fog off everything was like 2 feet away from each other?
It's like that.
>>147061272
>dusters have buttons
As does the one worn by NCR rangers
>tied down on horseback
Depends on the coat. That isn't a given.
>you don't leave the coat open, or you will get dusty and wet.
Depends on conditions and the rider's preferences. The coat, even worn open, catches the majority of the dust blowing onto the rider, and is significantly more comfortable when worn this way. When moving around on foot, unless you're in a sand storm, you'd be better off wearing it open.
>>147061338
maybe, but at least they can still try if you've got an explosive weapon.
once you cripple their legs, unless it's an assaultron, the fight is pretty much over
>>147060991
>loose clothing is a hindrance in combat
Guarantee you've never been in combat. You're one of those RP pretend /k/ autists.
anyway, the rank and file of the minutemen wear exclusively loose clothing. All Enclave officers in Fallout 3 wear loose coats. The Brotherhood's scribes, elders and initiates wear loose robes. If your autism is triggered by somethin so petty, just don't play video games. They are not for you, clearly, unless you want to play ARMA
>>147061494
Does it make the legs of ghouls explode?
>>147061338
Not him but thinking about it it would stop any melee enemy from getting to you.
>>147060846
was that police officer wearing a rain coat over riot armor? did you take a picture?
> didn't realize you had a specialized insight into the development goals of a fictional piece of futuristic body armor.
loose clothing on top of riot armor. how is it practical? got anything besides reddit tier snark?
>What. That's exactly what dusters do.
buttoned up, tied down dusters protect you from dust. open dusters do not.
>>147060991
>loose clothing is a hindrance in combat
>>147061518
I've done some training and worn armor on occasion. Competition only.
There is a reason professional fighters don't wear shirts. Having loose clothes over the top of riot armor defeats the purpose of riot armor.
>>147061569
Let me explain to you very carefully.
The Riot Armour was obviously designed to prtect from small arms and melee weapons during severe riots.
The NCR desert rangers found a cache of such, and added a coat over it to protect from dust and also add to their iconic presence, as can be seen in the statue outside the Mojave Outpost of the Desert Ranger. They're intimidating for enemies of the NCR and rallying for the troops; ingame dialogue supports this idea.
Inb4 someone can grab it. Mojave combat is not face-to-face. The intro cinematic shows a desert ranger using a sniper rifle, and it seems their purpose is as shock troops to decimate. They would be very unlikely to be grabbed by anyone, and if they were, they would just blow said person's head off with their giant revolvers. I'm not sure why you think it's impractical to have style. Those guys can do whatever the fuck they want, it clearly works for them. Besides, EVEN IF it didn't make 100% sense (which in my view it does) it still works as an ingame design and fits with the world as it was written.
Just... please be quiet? You're just boring.
>>147061521
I don't know. Explosive weapons are definitely op against ghouls
>>147061446
you're ignoring the armor underneath. comfort ceases to be a factor. otherwise, why wear armor at all?
>>147061839
>defeats the purpose of riot armour
No it doesn't. Having a coat over a set of ballistic armour doesn't magically make bullets ignore the armour. In fact, if the coat is made of a tough fabric, it might even help protect the wearer from smaller calibers. Denim jackets have been observed to repel .22 caliber bullets on rare occasion in real life.
inb4 grabbing. Desert rangers do not quash riots where one would be grabbed. They hide in sand/mountains and shoot people.
Hey fog I made a girl laugh today
>in a positive way
>>147061663
that coat it buttoned up and belted.
how is it loose?
>>147061992
fuck off normie
>>147060991
By loose clothing do you mean wearing a cape
>>147061569
>was that police officer wearing a rain coat over riot armor? did you take a picture?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZ1sF-ID1g
>how is it practical?
NCR Rangers are special forces generally deployed in desert conditions, and may do so in survival conditions for extended periods of time as scouts or other such long-duration roles.
To that end, gear tailored for wear in the desert, and that is capable of protecting the wearer from the elements would be a suitable choice for issue. Clothing such as a duster that protects the wearer from rain and dust, generally keeps the individual wearing it cooler during the day and warmer at night, and is durable, is very well suited to that sort of deployment.
Alternately, it may not be chosen for those reasons. The NCR shows a clear lineage of cavalry wear in their combat uniforms. This may be because the NCR has active cavalry units within their structure, and the usage of such animals would be of great value to the Desert Rangers - this alone would be a reason for widespread issue of dusters to these troops. The issue of dusters may also be a more ceremonial object used primarily as morale-boosting propaganda.
All are practical reasons for dusters to see issue among NCR troops.
>Open dusters do not.
I take it you've never been out riding a horse in the desert. They do.
>>147062075
>fuck off normie
>implying It's not pretending to be a normie to uphold the Masquerade to hide in plain sight
Pleb
>>147061860
They don't wear the coat right.
Its just there to make the design look cooler.
>>147062308
That is because most times they are seen ingame, they are not in an active sandstorm, and so they do not have the coat fastened. Also, the devs need to show the ballistic vest, or autists like you would ask why a coat has such high DT.
Obsidian could not, however, make a seperate model to satiisfy your autism, since they only had a year to make the fucking game. Use your imagination; in universe they probably buckle up their coats if the sand hits.
>>147061860
>added a coat over it to protect from dust
and then cut holes in the coat so it would fit
and then leave the coat open and loose
giddyup cowboy
>>147061986
>inb4 grabbing. Desert rangers do not quash riots where one would be grabbed. They hide in sand/mountains and shoot people.
Then why wear armor at all? Why not wear camo or a ghillie suit? Hell, why not wear one of the denim jumpsuits that the powder gangers wear, as it is apparently lightweight and bulletproof.
Giddyup cowboy.
>>147062550
>and then leave the coat open and loose
When do you see NCR Rangers on horseback?
>Then why wear armor at all?
You're right! Let's just let our special forces guys (whose very presence is a morale booster,) run around wearing denim jumpsuits!
Lock and load, Mall Ninja.
>>147062550
>Then why wear armor at all?
in case they get shot?
powder gangers look gay af
>>147062185
>moving goalposts
I brought the discussion back to coat over riot armor.
>This may be because the NCR has active cavalry units
they don't though, scroll up
>he issue of dusters may also be a more ceremonial object used primarily as morale-boosting propaganda.
Giddyup cowboy
>I take it you've never been out riding a horse in the desert. They do.
buttoned up and tied to the legs, sure. open and flapping in the breeze, no.
>>147062509
Why not just take the coat off until the sandstorm hits?
Why wear a gas mask all day? The filters should be dead.
The coat makes little to no sense they are already wearing clothes and armor under it.
The outfit is made for hyperthermia.
Man I got real fucking problem with this game. I can't stop taking screenshots. Maybe 50-70% of my play time is spent on that. But there's just so many good opportunities to do it.
>>147062773
>>147062698
you're the ones that want style over substance
would 2 trenchcoats be edgy enough? you could have a closed one and an open one to flap in the breeze.
>>147063005
but what if style is substance?
just because you don't go outside doesn't mean the rest of use don't find practical uses for looking good
>>147062550
>>147062845
>Giddyyup Cowboy complete shitpost argument twice in a row
So you literally just get butthurt over dusters because they remind you of cowboys. I think you have some serious mental issues, like actually. Nobody should be this reddit-tier anal anguished over a fucking coat. Amazing that you're the one accusing others of having lacking arguments.
>>147062550
>denim jumpsuits powder gangers wear
It's not AS bulletproof you moron, this is really not complicated. The powder ganger crap also lacks a helmet which apparently has a night vision function, and also does not have the unique appearance of the Desert Ranger armour which is useful for propaganda and morale boosting.
God damnit. stop replying to this faggot about his trigger over the coats
he literally won't shut the fuck up
just stop replying please god
>>147063001
>>147062974
>Why wear a gas mask all day?
Because it looks cool and is the icon of the NCRs best. If you see that gas mask and duster you know you're fucked.
Cyberpunk overhaul mod when?
>>147062974
>Why not just take the coat off until the sandstorm hits?
Why doesn't this guy take his coat off if he's so warm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wqulwx5Tdk
>Why wear a gas mask all day? The filters should be dead.
For the integrated night vision system, and to keep their faces hidden from the organization that has infiltration units and assassins?
>The outfit is made for hyperthermia.
Definitely, that's why they were worn historically in the desert by people wearing heavy clothing made to survive extended use and wear.
Lock and load, Mall Ninja.
>>147063176
I thought the argument was about how functional the outfit was? They could have worn something else and made that iconic like a turban.
Its not, especially for the environment, but it does look cool.
>>147063149
These'll turn into a nice little action story actually.
>>14706330
>Why doesn't this guy take his coat off if he's so warm?
Its an entirely different situation, but to put it in perspective put that guy in armor on top of that and then put a duster on him then put him in the desert and make him fight.
>For the integrated night vision system, and to keep their faces hidden from the organization that has infiltration units and assassins?
Wouldn't the infiltration units figure out better ways to identify them than when they are squatting in the bush.
>Definitely, that's why they were worn historically in the desert by people wearing heavy clothing made to survive extended use and wear.
With gas masks?
>>147063046
my entire argument, though I would not frame peacocking as a positive thing, especially in a Wild West culture. thank you.
>>147063051
I'm not anguished, I just enjoy pointing out the impracticality. other people seem to be getting triggered though
>denim jumpsuits powder gangers wear
>It's not AS bulletproof you moron, this is really not complicated
gold
>>147063330
>Why doesn't this guy take his coat off if he's so warm?
he's a ceremonial guard. not in an active warzone.
>Definitely, that's why they were worn historically in the desert by people wearing heavy clothing made to survive extended use and wear.
who are this historical group that wore riot armor with trenchcoats over the top?
>>147063473
ded
>>147063743
but it is a positive thing
I haven't paid attention to your entire argument (I don't have autism, and I do appreciate style), but it seemed like you were framing it as a bad thing
but unless you've never interacted with people (as evidenced by "peacocking is bad"), there is no situation in which looking good is bad
>>147063803
lol nigger
>>147063743
>I just enjoy pointing out the impracticality
mate, you just said that your "entire argument" is that style is substance. If style is substance, why would looking cool be impractical?
>>147063897
>I haven't paid attention to your entire argument
So you're basically saying you have no clue what you are arguing about?
Also peacocking is bad when you don't want to be seen.
>>147064123
Okay, but if you want to look like something to be feared and aspired to all at once, there is no reason not to look cool
your acne isn't practicality, m8. you're just ugly
>>147063897
>>147064017
could be a language barrier. I said the armor was impractical and the only positive was 'style'.
One of you only cares about style. The other has his jimmies rustled at the thought that I find capeshit ridiculous. Giddyup cowboy.
>>147064303
it's not a language barrier. I said, what if style is substance, and you said that was your entire argument, and then proceeded to say it was impractical.
you simply fail to understand the practical uses for looking good (no doubt a function of your personal loserdom).
I'm telling you that style vs substance is a false dichotomy endemic to those with no style (at least you have substance, right?). Style has a function, faggot
>>147064438
Your bullshit is getting kind of old.
At this point your just being pedantic.
At least the giddyup faggot still tries to have a decent arguement.
>>147063929
Native american you cunt.
>>147064234
Holy shit that last line got me. Mallninja autist on suicide watch
>>147064659
lol what?
what is getting old? looking good has a function. if you don't understand that, it's because you've never looked good in your life.
>>147064234
you don't want to be seen when fighting that means they can shoot back and any gear can become iconic if its worn by a group.
