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Maybe this way? Edition.

Elder Thread: >>146676463

>Official news

Dark Brotherhood DLC is out!
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/darkbrotherhood
https://youtu.be/xrIdDh7_TBw

One Tamriel announced:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/12/matt-firors-message-from-be3

First DLC dungeon pack coming soon™:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/21/update-11-featuring-shadows-of-the-hist-first-look

>Latest patch notes
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes

>Sales and deals
http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html (authorized reseller)
http://www.kinguin.net/es/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=elder+scrolls+online (some anons have been using it without issues so far)

>Online lore portal and map
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Online
http://esomap.uesp.net/

>UI addons for PC
http://esoui.com/addons.php

>Assorted links
http://teso-rp.com/
http://esoacademy.com/
http://www.the-elder-scrolls-by-mysticals.com/
http://eso-fashion.com/

>/tesog/ Guilds
[PC NA] message @clv or @the_kyrox for invite
[PC EU] message @the_kyrox for invite
[PS4 NA and EU] message PSN: kibukj. There is also an ESOG PSN community.

>We have a Discord open for every platform:
https://discord.gg/0zy535yopcQNGH6I

>Platform poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10281492
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Aaand I'm late
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Should I make my Imperial EP if my other character is also EP? Can anyone give me the rundown on the 3 factions (I'm EU)? Can you transfer money/items across factions?
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Wow holy shit, a Templar stamina build is fucking terrible for PvP
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Orsimer girs are damn qt.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/4q7111/datamining_32_new_vvardenfell_pois_found_in_250/
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>>146886523
Banks are account wide, you can easily pass things that aren't bound to a specific character this way though I've only really encountered that with collectibles (so you don't cheese the achievements, I guess) and maybe shit you've dyed. I've never tried passing dyed stuff off to another character.

Faction is mostly for flavor or PVP if you care about that. I don't know about the PVP side - especially on EU as I'm NA - but EP is pretty fun. With two characters you can explore different options in quests from your first go at them.

I've only done a bit of AD but I've liked it. You get to be a Queen's Spy and work with Khajiiti James Bond. Not tried DC yet so no opinion there (but really, being an Imperial among a bunch of other races of men feels a waste of the ability to chose any faction, t b h. Might as well be a breton or redguard.)
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So how the hell do you find people for a dungeon in this mmorpg? I'm guessing that dungeon finder isn't working properly or at all. Announcing lfg in zone chat doesn't help at all. It's my first dungeon and the first one you get to play and already it seems extremely hard to find anyone. Should I simply move on and disregard the dungeon quests?
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if you play PvP and got used to your alliance
I ended up making 2 alts in AD just as my main because I couldn't stomach fighting against them when I took another race
t.ips eagle banner
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Is the game growing or dying?
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>>146887738
growing
why does everyone ask those questions?
yes it's pretty fun
no it's not dying
REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>146887907
I'm just asking because I recently purchased it and I'm enjoying things so far, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of buzz surrounding it. Just want to know the state of the game.
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>>146887738
I think stalled, may grow or die in the next months
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Is this correct?
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>snek waifu(s) acquired
The Hollow City stuff is pretty fun. Gotta be weird with multiple people though. Does everyone only see their choices, or do we get phased to be with people who made the same ones or what?

>>146888262
There's not a lot of buzz outside of it, but it seems to do well within it's walls. I haven't seen much animosity towards the devs (aside from the typical "they nerfed my shit!" PvP woes, or "why is this STILL BROKE?" bug woes endemic to all MMO populaces), people seem okay with the payment model, zone chat is fairly active everywhere (but most heavily active in the lower level zones - I think high level types just idle in capital cities while waiting for dungeon groups or something) and I've only really seen it slow down in places like Coldharbour, which is understandable because that's level 45 and up content.

It's still getting regular content patches too, which always strikes me as a good sign of being not-dead.
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>>146889498
Yes. ESO is considered canon and they have a talk up on their youtube page where they detail their quest-writing process. Part of it involves going to Bethesda "hey is this shit alright, can we say this?"

That said, TES lore is pretty fucking flexible. If Bethesda later changes their mind about anything expect it to get explained away as a rumor, myth, something changed by a dragonbreak or CHIM, etc.
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>>146889498
no, another guy who's higher ranking said Todd has the final say in what is and isnt canon.

That white haired faggot said the past games were more fairytales when its actually quite the opposite.
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>>146887738
It's grown a load in the last year.

The first year after launch was abysmal, their shitty price structure (£40+monthly sub) and the lack of actual content (Craglorn was the only content released over the period of an entire year). The player base after that was pretty small.

After IC, people started hoping they were getting their shit together and adding content, and with the game going B2P, people started returning as no sub was required. Then Orsinium was released and everyone was insanely impressed, it was huge and masterfully crafted. Since then there's been a wave of content and people seem to be getting hype, with more people returning all the time and actual new players for the first time since launch. For example, /tesog/ only existed for a few weeks after launch, then would pop up once every few months and die after 100 posts, now though it's been going steady for a few months, which is nice.

We're all hoping ZOS doesn't fuck it up somehow.
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>>146887738
Not sure if it have grown or shrunk. However I know that the queues for my PvP campaign have became longer and longer. User to not having to queue to it at all.
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>>146889498
Does anyone have that Bethesda tweet where Bethesda says that TESO is cannon? I have seen it a couple of times in /tesg/ and /tgesg/. Last time I saw it 5~ months ago. I used to have it too but my HDD broke.
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>>146891216
No idea what you're talking about. There's a tweet from Bethesda saying TESO won't affect the development of future Elder Scrolls games claiming that would render ESO non-canon, but that's just being disingenuous.
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What's the skull and 2 swords icon on the map for? I know there's world bosses in this game so I figured it's that, but I've never seen any of them spawn. Anywhere I could read up on it or someone gimme a rundown?
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>>146893362
Those are world bosses, yes. You must be coming after they've recently died, they seem to respawn after like, maybe 10 minutes or so. Have a /sit and wait a bit. They're not too hard, at least in core zones. Usually soloable unless you're really bad or your build is trash or both.

World Bosses in other places are a bit more respectable though. The ones in the Gold Coast and Orsinium are very much -not- soloable for someone in leveling gear who's just kind of wandered into a ruin on a whim.

Fucking giant minotaur bastard. ;_;
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>>146893697
that feels when I can still solo world bosses but it was easier on sorc with a pet, I took no damage and just could just keep spamming the boss with spells until it died
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>>146886167
It's downloading as we speak. Are racial skills as important as your other skills
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>>146894720
Depends on your race. If you're a sword user and your racial gives you bonus to stamina it's worth investing in. Otherwise it's meh.
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>>146894869
Meh, I'll see at character creation.

Looking at the wiki a lot of the armour sets look REALLY good in this game which is a nice change from most MMO's
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Someone please explain the relationship between Sithis and Mephala.
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>>146890746
>The first year after launch was abysmal

This. It was really pretty awful. In all honesty I think the game would have been best launching with the TG and DB content (just to get it the fuck out of the way for the normie crowd) and then potentially released IC followed by Orsinium. At the very least the game needed to be launched later and have the PC and console launches far closer together than they were.

ESO is up there with the worst AAA MMO releases. Definitely in the last 5 years at least.
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I fucking hate that DB personality. Every second cucks poses like he was the emperor himself with that pushed out chest
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>>146898109

It looks alright on females. Looks gay as fuck on any male characters though.
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>>146898109
Yeah it's pretty bad on males, looks much better on females.
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>>146898109
>>146898262
>>146898280

>Mfw all my characters are female and they all use the personality
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>>146896296
Mephala is a daedric prince of murder, secrets and plot, while Sithis is a primordial force birthed of Padomay, much like Anu-iel was birthed of Anu. Sithis is quite a bit higher on the food chain of power, but how much will or agency it has it very questionable at best. All we really know for sure is that it is a force of destruction and wants things to be un-made again.

Presumably you ask because of the Morag Tong and Dark Brotherhood, who each venerate one of the two. Personally I don't think Sithis has the capacity to operate on the level that it does to the Brotherhood - it doesn't strike me as an entity that would have much consciousness or the capacity to really care or acknowledge mortal cultures and life anymore than you could care for an individual ant or the struggles between opposing colonies. And murder is so very, very slow and individually focused as a means of unmaking things, really.

T B H I think it's all just a scheme by Mephala, playing a splinter group off her loyal followers by taking on the guise of the "Night Mother", claiming to get orders from above, and throwing in a bit of divine intervention every so often to quell any disbelief.

There's no way the eight limbs on Sithis' statue in the Argonian Sanctuary are a coincidence IMO.
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how does one make friends in this game?
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Is this game worth playing now? Friend bought it for me since it's selling for like $5 now. He says we should play together because it's good but his taste in games is shit and he never plays it anyway.

I played during the beta and wasn't impressed and don't feel like downloading the entire game if I'm going to dump it after an hour (shit'll take me 20+ hours to download and cause my connection to go to shit while downloading).
I've done some reading up and like the idea of classes not forcing you into specific roles, is this actually true or just people exaggerating? (I don't mind if certain builds are more optimal, but if the only viable tank is Dragonknight that's different)
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Bought two keys off Kinguin, one was invalid other one worked, so far waiting to hear back from them to see if i can get any kind of refund (got buyer protection) will inform once i hear back
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>>146901226

>I've done some reading up and like the idea of classes not forcing you into specific roles, is this actually true or just people exaggerating? (I don't mind if certain builds are more optimal, but if the only viable tank is Dragonknight that's different)

There's 40 dungeons and variation of said dungeons that's for 4 players or above (not including public dungeons, that's pretty much just caves out in the world made for two or more players and where people can come and go as they please).

Out of these there's only one, a 12-player dungeon, the veteran version of Maw of Lorkaj, where you need templar healers and dk tank. While it may not be impossible, you're not going to find a serious trial group that will do it without a dk tank.
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>>146900851
A guild perhaps?

>>146901226
I just want to point out that you're asking this question in a general populated by people who play the game.
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>>146902471

Who else would I ask? A bunch of people who don't play the game whether it's worth playing or not?
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>>146902359

So yea it's fair to say that you can play any class as anything even if some builds are more optimal than others.

I should add that if you didn't like the game before due to the combat you're not gonna like it now either. And you're gonna have to learn stuff like animation cancelling if you ever aim to git gud.
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>>146902559
The answer to your question is yes, it is worth playing.
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>>146900851
>how does one make friends in this game?
Are you on xbox or ps4 us? otherwise read the op
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>>146900090
Speaking of statues, who is the lady in the Abah's Landing TG cistern?
Here are the in-game theories:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_in_the_Cistern_Theories
Or could the statue represent someone else?
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>>146902951
>>146902768

See, that wasn't hard was it. I'll give it a try.
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>>146903039
God luck and remember to come back if you've questions, and in case you don't like it for whatever reason I'm sure there's enough people here to point you towards an mmo more in your liking. Every man to his taste
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>>146903463

If I don't like it, I will find you...
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>>146886751
I've seen incredibly thin player Orsimer, they just don't look right.
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>>146903463
>WhereisSutch
I dunno, you can find ruins of Dasek Moor and fort Strand. I look into it tomorrow, there is even a mention of Sutch in TESO:
>Jorunn the Skald-King visited Sutch in his youth, some time between 2E 546 and 2E 572.
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>>146886751
>>146905072
>disgusting filthy orcs
>not imperial\breton master race

shit taste desu senpai
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>>146906618
>Around 2E 582, Sir Phrastus of Elinhir met with a hunter in the marketplace of Sutch, who had brought with them the carcass of a rare River Troll.
Okay I really need to play the Dark Brotherhood, the only problem is that my "assasin" character is only 40lvl and I want him to be max lvl.
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>>146887129
Looks like we're gonna get something as big, if not bigger, than Orsinium. I like it.
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>>146906794
My main is a Breton.
Reminder: Breton are Ketchup.
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>>146902985
I'm agreeing with Velsa, that it's the Night mother. But the letters end with Zeira so I suppose it's suppose to be Leki.
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>>146900090
nice catch
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>>146900090
Nice catch
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Is there any point in making a very stealthy character who is not a Bosmer or Khajiit?
I want to create a character specifically for Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood and I really like to make him a Dunmer.
The racial stealth bonuses are not achievable by any other means and in close quarters the 3 meter reduction in detection radius would seem to be highly significant.
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>>146909284
Choose the glorious dunmer! Why would anyone even consider of playing as cannibalistic manlet elf or as furry gypsy junkie? Literally 2nd and 3rd shirtiest race, 1st being the orsimer. I had no problems while doing the heists or black sacraments as dunmer. And you do know the Morag Tong and Camonna Tong?
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>>146910101
>shirtiest race
Fucking auto correct, I meant shittiest.
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So can I make a DW Nightblade that uses magicka costing class abilities viable for PvE or would it be too hybridy?
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>>146909284
You can do it if you're a night blade. My Argonian nbs can do tg and db with no issues.
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>>146910101
>And you do know the Morag Tong and Camonna Tong?
Yes, that's the main reason I want to go with a Dunmer. I have so much to draw from with Dunmers from playing the games from Morrowind on up and I really have little feel for Bosmer or Khajiit.
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Rofl dungeon pack costs 1.5k crowns. I said previously that 1k was fair but this is going to be good to watch.

Especially since I expect the barbershop race change/appearance change to cost 1.5k crowns per token at least.
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New player here.

How do magic elemental effects like chilled work? When I hit enemies with ice magic and try to freeze them with Elemental Barricade, they never become immobilized. I can never rely on it to slow enemies down, and always end up having to use Destructive Reach or Restraining Prison abilities.

Am I doing something wrong? I even have the perk that increases the chance... Do light attacks not cause the status effects?
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>>146911101
No it's how most people play. You use one resource pool for damage and one for utility. So a DW nightblade going around casting cloak and magicka-based debuffs is perfectly viable.
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>>146911608
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/28/update-11-featuring-shadows-of-the-hist-launch-details

Source
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>>146911735
> 2 dungeons for half the price of Orsinium
They saw how people bought the glowing black senche and know they're gonna get away with this.
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>>146911684
Here you go.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/111840/status-effects-and-you
Chilled don't freeze them, only slows them down.
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>>146911101
I've seen magicka NB builds that use dw and staff. I'm looking to go that way for my new Dunmer nb since a blade of some sort seems a necessity for a Nightblade. Maybe enchanting them with flame damage will make sense with the Dunmer passives for flame damage.
My previous experience with a nb was not good. He was a dw/bow Bosmer nb back before they made stamina builds practical. Leveling was difficult especially since he was leveling 4 crafts as well.
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If I get just the game, without DLCs, can I play until the last level or is there a limit without DLC?
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>>146911608
>>146912242
>>146911608
Not the first time or the last time ZOS lies.
>We won't change our payment model (2014 and 2015 before b2p)
>A new group dungeon every 6 weeks(2014)
>Crown store is PURELY cosmetical (2015)
>Bear mount is obtainable from a quest in Orsinium DLC (2015)
>Shadow of the Hist will cost 1000 crowns (2016)
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>>146912958
>If I get just the game, without DLCs, can I play until the last level
Yes.
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A question for those in RP guilds

I see cool screenshots of gatherings and stuff and it looks fun to watch. Do I have to be an active member or can I just lurk and watch whatever they do
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>>146913160
Thanks, I'll buy it! The last MMORPG I played was Dungeon and Dragons Online. Man, that was really fun. I hope to live that all again here.
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>>146903463
Isn't Sutch a little bit more north, like just off the map?
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what's the average expected dps for endgame content?

what's good dps?
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>>146915412
20k is good enough for everything except one trial.
25k and above if you want to do vet maw of lorkhaj.
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Where can I practice my rotation and dps? I've heard the giants are pretty good but I don't have orsinium.
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>>146915412
10k = Non-vet tier
20k = Average tier
30k = Decent tier
40k = Top tier
50k = Stam DK tier
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>>146916523
top tier's only reachable in sustained fights with good buffing

else 30k+ self buffed is competitive endgame dps
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>>146916465
vet dungeons
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>>146916465
Get Orsinium.

Though giants only have about 100k HP, so they die too quickly to properly practice rotations, they are good for testing the DPS of your rotation at its max, but not practicing keeping all your DOTs and buffs up, for that you can only just really do vet dungeons/trials over and over.
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>>146916837
What spell/weapon damage should I be looking for for that DPS, and how do I get it up?
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>>146917243
1900-3000 unbuffed

sets
major sorcery
trap
dots
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hey does anyone know if there's a way to report bugged quests?

For example the area where you have to race on "Lifting the Veil" keeps reloading while the timer keeps running, forcing me to restart it. I've had a friend log into my account and try it out and he experienced the same problem.

Also in Shadowfen there are around 2 quests in that can't be completed because the action prompts don't do anything
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>>146918669
submit a ticket
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>>146916523
At least post solo dps targets, not stuff that needs a group to achieve with war horns, spell power cure etc.

>>146916837
>else 30k+ self buffed is competitive
^
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WEW LAD almost an hour between last 2 posts.

DISCUSSION TIME
Anyone excited for the new racials or anything you'd like to see in HIST update that's not been explicitly revealed/tested?
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How do I learn the last whitecap trait (lower spell crit)? Combining it with nirnroot creates an invalid potion.
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>>146924526
Probably poison, not a potion.
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>>146925117
Tried that too, no go. Butterfly wing + white cap and Nirnroot + white cap both fail with natural water and grease
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>>146925698
That's ravage spell power
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>>146925806
woops, yeah, but whitecap doesn't have lower spell crit. It has
- Lower Spell Power
- Ravage Magicka
- Increase Spell Resist
- Detection
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>>146926206
That would explain it. My addons and all sites that reference white cap have lower spell crit listed.
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>>146926275
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alchemy_Ingredients seems more accurate, see
http://www.uesp.net/w/index.php?title=Online:Alchemy_Ingredients&action=history
>1 June 2016 Fix spelling of Fleshfly and change White Cap's last trait due to patch
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>>146918101
what are dots and traps?
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>>146887387
nowadays if you aren't at least 300 cp and lvl 50 you aren't gonna do shit, next best thing would be to find other people your lvl or hire a max lvled person to help with dungeons
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>>146924391
Not happy with Argonian changes since it only benefits magicka builds and minorly nerfs stam and tank builds. Also not really lore-friendly, Argonians are supposed to be good at stealth, skirmishing, and scouting.

I'd rather give Argonians stam bonuses and give dark elfs mag bonuses which are more in line with their flame dmg passives. Course that pigeonholes the other way and stam dunmers will complain, but eh.
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>>146918101
>2.9k unbuffed
Oh good.
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>>146889498
No. ESO is not non-canon but Bethesda has zero barriers from ESO, as in their lore is above ESO and if they wish to completely ignore it's lore they easily can.
People also forget that after ESO two dragonbreaks happen if there isn't one in ESO and that TES games are basically in a different timeline at this point.
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>>146900090
>Destruction
Fuck off, it's force of change and chaos not just wanton destruction. It's part of the binary code where Anui-El is true (1) while Sithis is false (0).
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I asked in previous thread and I will ask again.
I'm a new player that's feeling empty as fuck because my friends don't want to play ESO and majority of the playerbase seems to be a bit autistic.
Any players or rp guilds on here want a lorefag of 13 years to join your ranks or something? Hell if anyone just wants to friend up and play together I am up for it.
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>>146930487
Go check out teso-rp.com, they have good resources there.
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*sweats profusely*
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>>146930487
Do these threads even have an active guild?
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>>146930907
I am not sure wizard of the trains.
When will you get back to your game development?
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>>146930961
Still converting things to CryEngine, it's a slow process, and I gotta finish up Maxwell's World
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>>146930487
>>146930907
Do you play NA PC? People in the guild are p active
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>>146931062
Yep, NA, PC.
Does /tesog/ guild have rp?
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>>146931062
What's the guild even?
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I just bought this game and I'm mad that there is only one type of eye in this character customization to choose from. I am furious 1/10
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>>146931247
Haven't seen anyone rp, we just talk and do dungeons together

>>146931262
send a message to the person in the op for an invite
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>>146931592
Neither are online.
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>>146931796
whisper me then @Geobasket
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was fun lads. even with our hacker.
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Does the PC NA guild accept filthy casuals who just want to fuck around and explore and shit instead of doing dungeons?
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>>146932032
>3.93 MB file size
Wew, sorry lads I have made a grave mistake.
also >>146932032 riding your fucking guar was
top giggle.
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>>146932103
I don't see why we wouldn't unless you're an absolute unbearable fucking sperg. The guild is easily the least autistic 4chan guild i've joined in any mmo/game. Mostly quiet but a few of us chat and no one will pester you over w/e you're doing

ALSO AIDS >>146932123
was meant for >>146931919
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>>146932103
we welcome everyone
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>>146932103
I'm in the guild and I mostly create new characters, level them up and delete them.
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>>146932559
This sounds like how I play every MMO. Not having a good group of friends to raid with sucks.
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how dare you all run dungeons without me

t. mad gamer
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>>146928715
>damage over time
>trap beast

trap beast being an ability that gives 12% crit damage
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Anyone on PTS? About how long does it take to do the new dungeons? Are the normal and vet mode different?
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>>146924391
I'm happy they decided to only buff the perceived as weaker racials and add a little flavour to all, rather than nerf the stronger ones. no longer sweating redguards

I'd like to see a confirmation that with the race-change mechanic, players with the adventure pack can change to a race from a different alliance, and stay in their current alliance. Bosmer NB wants to be redguard, but wants to keep playing for AD.
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>>146924391
dunmer 2% frost and shock damage means force pulse is better

i like that vma buff
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>>146929126
Damn, that sucks. Will I miss a lot of cool content if I skip the dungeons?
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>>146932123
>>146932309
If only I could ride those triplets like I rode my guar

>>146933285
dw friend, we can do dungeons tomorrow
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>>146936780
I don't know what that poster is taking about. I have never had any problem finding people to do dungeons with at any level.
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>>146937956
I have spent around 2h yesterday trying to find people for the first dungeon. How do you do it?
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>>146938164
I also have no problems finding groups for anything low-level. Your problem could be that you're playing in off-peak hours. If it's not that, then you're simply unlucky. Also, remember that different zones have different chats. If you're trying to do Undaunted quest dungeon specifically, and are looking for a group for it in a higher level zone, then you might have a hard time finding anything.
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>>146939509
Probably not that much traffic in evenings central EU time then. In regards to zones, how far does zone reach. Is it the whole region map, like for example Stonefalls?
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>>146940673
>Is it the whole region map, like for example Stonefalls?
Yes.
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Anyone online so I can pm them and get added to the guild?
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>>146941351
You can send a mail to the person in OP with your @ name so if they're not on, they can still see the message and can add you.
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>>146941495
already did
but just in case @Lorkhatosh
if anyone who can add sees this add me
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>>146942138
Aight, when I hop on I'll add you if haven't been already.

PC NA right?
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>>146942138
>@clv is in the NA tesog guild
Ah, that guy just did some thing last night.
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Hello , if i want to buy TESO because it's on sale but don't want any DLC because it's expensive as shit. Will i have fun with no DLC ( it's not cosmetic dlc sadly) ?
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should i play this with a controller
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templar or sorcerer?
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>>146943648
Templar unless stamsorc
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>>146916523

I've seen these numbers but they're complete bullshit.

As long as you're above 10k you will be a credit to team in veteran dungeons.
I got the CoA Assassin achievement with 3 players; I did fuck all damage and so did the tank, and our DPS only got around 18k dps with buffs and debuffs.
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>>146943438
Yes. At least for the first 600 hours.
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>>146943481
I do and I haven't had trouble with it outside of a few PvP situations where I haven't been able to turn the camera quick enough.
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>>146943438
There is still plenty to do without DLC, so yes. If you'll like the game, you will have fun.

But the DLCs are fun too.

You can get ESO+ subscription, or buy a timecard for it, which will give you all the DLC for free along with other perks, for as long as ESO+ is active. It's cheap and good for checking what all DLCs has to offer before committing to full price purchase.

You also get "free" crowns by getting ESO+ which you can then use to permanently unlock any DLC
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>>146898262
>Looks gay as fuck on any male characters though.
I think it looks qt on my male Altmer.
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>10am BST
>people RPing in the Cloudy Dregs Inn
I ain't even wake enough for this shit
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>>146944635
>male Altmer likes looking gay
Wow, color nobody shocked.
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>>146944801
It looks more edgy than gay on him.
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>>146943412
what did i do this time
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>>146945170
Completed a dungeon or something.
I don't know exactly, some of the callouts I still don't know a damned about.
In short, you did something and everyone congratulated you.
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Are there any mods you guys suggest for a new player to ESO? I'm just picking up this game. I've grabbed a mod for Skyshards and books so far.
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>>146945335
master merchant

awesome guild store

lui extended/ ftc/ aui
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>>146945437
Sweet, thank you.
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>>146945624
Too add to what he said,

HarvestMap
CraftStore
RaidNotifier (if you want to raid ofc)
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Apparently ESO is £8 in Tesco, worth picking up and blasting through the quests as single player?

Enjoyed the other ESO games but not interested in MMO or any shit like that.
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>>146946016
eso is first and foremost an mmo
if you don't like mmos already i don't think eso will change that
though the story's pretty comfy
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>>146946016
That's like $20 isn't it?

At that price it's worth is just for the fucking nostalgia trip that is the Dunmer zones.
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>>146946141

Closer to $10 I think!

>>146946052

In fairness I have never played an MMO, but I like single player games. Never got into playing multilayer on-line or anything like that.

Fuck it, if the story is pretty comfy and I can go on a nostalgia trip I'm getting it.
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page 8 bump
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Anyone tried out the new dungeons on the pts? Found any bugs? Remember, they won't change anything unless you bitch about it.
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>>146947651
Correction, they won't change anything unless the post is 30 pages long with comments. There's been plenty of bug reports that didn't have enough replies so they just thought "Eh, its not that big of a deal lmao".
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>>146945847
Thanks, I'll also look into these. I'm not sure if I want to raid. I'm primarily playing to look into the Thieves Guild, provided I get ESOPlus. Thieves Guild is entirely what will sink me into this game or not.
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>>146947845
Couldn't agree more. I'm still baffled that dyed costumes is a thing because I couldn't for my life believe that there was anyone outside of a few people on the forums that wanted it but apparently enough bitching bring changes (especial if you can capitalize on it).
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>>146948224
No one even asked for the block indicator either. Yet they added it anyways and forced it onto every one. There was a 10 page thread on the PTS asking them NOT to add it onto live or at the very least make it optional. They ignored it and put it onto live. Thanks ZOS, because I don't know I'm holding onto the right mouse button unless there's a big fucking gross indicator on my character telling me.
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>>146948468

t. first person player
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>>146948539
You can still see it in 3rd person, and it looks just as bad.
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>>146948539
it's annoying in both 1st and 3rd person
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>>146926275
Use the Potion Maker addon. With it you search for possible potions by selected effects or ingredients. It will show when a possible potion/poison has a effect unknown to you so it's easy to just search with all ingredients and craft each potion/poison that has an unknown effect in the list.
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>>146948224
Bug fixes don't give us instant money, anon.

Unless...
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>>146932309
Look forward to meeting some people cross faction once One Tamriel releases.
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>>146948693
>>146948732
on the flipside you can animation cancel easier knowing the block indicator comes up.
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How do you get past these types of traps when doing heists? They're placed in hallways and you can't walk around them. The only way to get through is to trip them.
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>>146896709
But was it worse than Wildstar's launch?
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>>146949318
all traps can be disarmed, if you look at one of the spikes on that trap, a button prompt will appear
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>>146949381
oh neat, will try it out later. ty
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What weapon do stam DKs use for DPS?
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>>146949180
>wanting to hang out with any elf but dark elf
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>>146950000
2h/bow
dual wield/bow
more off-tanky 1h/s and 2h or bow
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>>146950220
better than be a fetcher for a slave
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>>146950326
Actually, would it be in my best interest as a tank to use my second skill bar dedicated to healing myself with a Resto staff?
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>>146946504
If you want a single player MMO you could try SWTOR if you like the KOTOR games. It's not very good though
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So will One Tamriel just drop the idea of all the factions being in a war, I honestly wouldn't mind if not for the level scaling which might be bad enough to force me to quit
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>Do the "save Abnur from Oblivion" quest.
>About to fuck up mannimarco during the stereotypical wizard duel
>Internet goes to shit
>Outside of Harborage after logging in again
>Have to repeat whole quest

Why?
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>>146950880
IIRC they said something like "the players can give the explanation they want, they just don't care anymore, thankfully.
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>>146950587
No, as a tank you'll want to take 1h/s on both bars, unless you are doing normal dungeons then you could probably run a dps bar on back. DK have enough buffs and self-heals to run tanking without a a restro.
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>>146950950
*...they want"
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>>146951154
Ok, thank you.
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>>146950880
>level scaling which might be bad enough to force me to quit

why is it bad, though?

I used to play SWTOR and they did level scaling too in their last DLC. A lot of players were upset about it, including me, but when they implemented it, it wasn't bad at all and almost everyone came around to the idea. Old zones were once again fun and relevant.
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>>146950880
> So will One Tamriel just drop the idea of all the factions being in a war
No, afaik they're just going to give you Cadwell's silver and gold right from the start.
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>5 rings in a row in vma

i don't think the 50% weapon drop rate was implemented, friends
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>>146950880
level scaling may make the game feel more like an elder scrolls game and less than a linear themepark
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>>146951465
How is it even going to work? Will everything just get scaled up to CP 160 like in dungeons?
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>>146952003
child porn is illegal
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>>146952003
They haven't gone into detail about it but most likely. I'm suspecting everything will be scaled up to v160 while they rename all "level 24 bandit" and "champion point 110 bandit" to just "bandit".
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>>146887387

Dungeon finder its broken, i did all my normal dungeons with that but now you only get a group if you are in luck.

If they fix it, its an awesome tool, but remember that as dps you will get more time on que, if you can tank or heal its going to be easier.

Join a guild, thats a good way to get people to do content with you .

And no, you will not lose any content because the dungeons scales to your lvl, you are gonna do all the dugeons sooner or later so do not dispair, i did all of then with the pledges at lvl 45
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>>146950880

Why is it bad though? It'll make the game feel like less of a themepark overall.

I usually don't like scaling in RPGs but in MMOs is makes far more sense. In the past, level based MMOs at least tried to make higher level zones feel like your character is higher level. Nowadays it just ends up being more of the same at higher level. It's always been retarded that a Clannfear you fight in Glenumbra would get raped by a Clannfear in say Bankorei and there's never even an explanation as to why this is the case. Similarly it's good that a guard in each zone feels around the same power level and so does say a bandit of some type. It's just bizarre that I can mow down a load of bandits in a zone that's 'on level' and then get my ass handed to me by a very similar looking bandit in a 'high level zone'.
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>>146952791
Thanks, good to hear. I guess I'll just keep dungeon finder turned on and get on with my questing.
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>>146953126
Lack of level scaling is a good thing but it has to be accompanied by good enemy designes. So that higher level mobs actually look higher level. Otherwise it's kinda pointless.
Although it's always fun to come back to some enemy that gave you trouble earlier and see how you mow them down now that you grew up.
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>>146953126
Because it doesn't feel like your character is improving at all.
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when does the no level req stuff come out? I want to play it then.
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>>146953142
Seeing how fan-fiction isn't canon, no.
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>>146953518
you still get new abilities, new passives, better weapons

in fact, by that logic, your character gets weaker as they level, because, for example, on average a level 10 enemy will be easier to kill for a level 10 player, than a level 50 enemy for a level 50 player
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>>146953518
Try do Fungal Groto solo on your level 20 guy and let me know how it went compared to your cp400 one. Since they're both scaled it shouldn't be any problem, right?
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>>146954136
Fall 2016.
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>>146950886
Such a powerful necromancer should have no problem with shutting down your internet. Let's be honest, he's too powerful for you to finish the quest.
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>>146918101
3000 unuffed is too low, should be at least 3600+ weapon damage
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>>146918101
> 3000 spell damage unbuffed
Literary how
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>>146955398

He meant spell damage. I don't think there's as many sources of spell damage as weapon damage.
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What's a good way of getting food to level cooking? Is there somewhere I should go to harvest it? I mainly need stuff for cooking quests and the vendor doesn't have those grapes + vendor food costs way too much.
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>>146956330
>Is there somewhere I should go to harvest it?

loot all containers in the world. Barrels, crates, sacks. 99% of the time it will have cooking shit in them
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>>146950880
No, it just lets you wander the provinces like any unaffiliated adventurer. It's basically putting you on the same level as your Fighters/Mage/etc. Guild buddies. It's not like Sees-All-Colors had to save the world to suddenly be in the Aldmeri Dominion's side of things despite being a lizard, after all.
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>>146918101
>>146955398
>>146955808
There's a huge difference between spell damage and weapon damage. Weapon damage is much easier to stack, but stamina is much harder, so generally stam builds have a lot of weapon damage (you should ideally be 3.5k - 4k fully buffed) but a mediocre amount of stam (30k - 35k is all you can expect to get). But magicka builds generally are great if you can just hit 2.8k - 3k buffed (3.5k+ with Kena), but you will want 40k - 45k magicka instead, because you have many more sources of percentage based magicka buffs.
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Can someone post the link with the new passives please? I would be really grateful.
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>>146957581
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/274961/pts-patch-notes-v2-5-0
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>these pauldrons
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>>146953518
>Because it doesn't feel like your character is improving at all.

Bullshit. Your character still improves in terms of their gear (especially set bonuses), skill points and eventually CP. How is this really any different to how enemies are 'leveled' to you under the current system?
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>>146958195
#quality
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>>146957920
I didn't like dark brotherhood and thieves guild dlcs and orsinium is eh for me because I am not much of a snow kind of guy.

Should I just blow my 1500 crowns on the upcoming dlc and ditch orsinium end game content altogether? There should be good end game gear from new dlc for all builds right?
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>>146958286
One of the things i like about ESO is that you can choose to do whatever the fuck you want without worries.
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>>146956039
>hundings and Julianos
>willpower and agility

yea there enough of it to go around, medium just provides that increase that's it
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>>146953518

you're a retard if you think having a changing number next to your name makes your character stronger.

As it is, as you go from area to area, the devs tune the mobs that are on your level to take roughly the same time to kill at level 50 as they do at level 1, in fact, time to kill may increase rather than decrease, because mob health scales faster than your damge does just from leveling.

What decreases time to kill is you getting more Champion points/perks, more skills, more passives, and better gear.

Not level.

Level is a treadmill that provides an illusion of progress, not actual progress.

It's to trick retarded niggers like you into thinking you're progressing, that's all.
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>>146957920
Much appreciated mate!
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>>146958532

right but if you max out on spell damage, self buffed you'll be about 2800-3000 spell damage, depending on whether you take apprentice mundus stone or thief for more spell crit.

Weapon damage you'll be a bit higher.
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Just bought it and installing it now.

For anons that have been playing for awhile, what is something you know now that you wish you knew when you first started playing?
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>>146958725
That the game is shit
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>>146958725
Level up crafting while you are questing.
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>>146958772
back to /v/ with you
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>>146958725
I wish I didn't try to rush to cap and tried enjoying low level gameplay instead.

>>146958772
Why bother posting in this thread then? I'd expect you to be long gone fuccboi.
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>>146958725
start researching equipment traits asap
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>>146958725

Focus your 3 equipment crafting professions on one character, even if it's a mule. I was dumb and had 1 character doing each craft initially till I realized that meant I needed 3 copies of each rare motif. Then I focused all my equipment crafting on one of my mains.

Also, ALWAYS be researching something. Never waste real time by not having something researching on every craft on your crafting character.
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>>146950834
Speak for yourself, I actually prefer SWTOR to ESO.
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>>146958725
Don't buy or repair anything, you find better gear as you advance.
Deconstruct or research everything.
Save for a horse (by stealing it takes 2 days)
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>>146959084
>research
I keep hearing this. What's this about?
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What's the point of fishing? All the fish you catch just turn to generic "Fish", which you can just loot rather than bothering with fishing anyway.
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>>146959325
Top right.
Get the Research Asisstant addon.
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>>146959325

to craft items with an inherent property on them, like increased armor, or increased effect from mundus stones (a permanent buff you have on your character), or reduced cost of sprinting/dodge rolling, etc, you have to have "learned" that trait by researching other gear that has that trait on it.

>>146959384

There's rare fish for every zone tied to achievements/dye unlocks, also, rarely when you process fish you can find "Perfect Roe" which is a cooking mat that's pretty valuable and used to make xp boost potions.
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>>146959553
>>146959742
This sounds like something I should've been doing all along. Fug.
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>>146959790

yes, you should, it takes literally months to research 9 traits on an item., and you need 9 traits researched to make some of the sets.
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>>146959790
yeep, specially because it takes a fucking long time, up to a month per final trait, and that's with all the pertaining perks.
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>>146959959
>>146959990
>worst part of eve is also in this game
REEEEEE
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>Shalidor placed an enchantment that can just whooptydoo bring him from "Aetherius"
What the fuck
ESO it doesn't have to be that hard, lore like this isn't even obscure, you can get the general cues from how spirits behave in TES games

In ESO every other important NPC is a ghost that can just nonchalantly travel from Dreamsleeve to fucking Mundus, it's so retarded that I expect actual resurrection to be shown in ESO at some point in future which will be a complete lore gangbang.
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>>146959006
how?
what are traits and how the fuck do I research them?
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>>146959084
H-how do you make 4500g a day from stealing?
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>>146960137
They just have to shoehorn every character you've ever heard of into the game, don't you know? Worst part is that this actually makes them all seem less relevant.

A "resurrected" Shalidor should bring all the mages from Tamriel to hear his lectures, not be reading cookbooks while the other mages in the room ignore him.
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>>146960338
First skillpoint in the fence-passive gives you 110 sell-slots. Sell some greens and blues, done.
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>>146960117
This game seems like a serious grindfest
>>
http://imgur.com/a/wTG8z
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>>146960338
Get the first perk form the legerdemain line to increase the fence limit per day to 110, find a spot with enough good containers (shelves, nightstands, trunks) and if it has a couple chests better, steal every "stealable" item, relog and repeat until you reach 110 items (or fill the inventory, so you already have items for the next day), fence them and you should have about 7k or more per day. Takes about half an hour if the spot is good enough.
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>>146960642
we're gonna have events now?
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>>146960745
>>146960549
Sounds lucrative. Everything reset when you relog, right? Got any tips for a good spot?
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>>146960642
what's this cringefest I'm looking at?
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>>146960835
Where are you?
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>>146960840
>Witches Festival
>Frostfall 13th
>Today is the 13th of Frostfall, known throughout Tamriel as the Witches' Festival when the forces of sorcery and religion clash. The Mages Guild gets most of the business since weapons and items are evaluated for their mystic potential free of charge and magic spells are one half their usual price. Demonologists, conjurors, lamias, warlocks, and thaumaturgists meet in the wilderness outside (the city), and the creatures created or summoned there may plague Tamriel for eons. Most wise men choose not to wander this night. In Daggerfall, this is the Summoning Day for Mephala.
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