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>>146825050
I wish there was a way to farm protean items again
Construction money sink forever
>>146825050
>latest update not changed
>latest patch notes not changed
Nope, make another one
>>146825418
You do it then, no one else would so I just ctrl + c the last one.
first for trimbabb tears
6th for badonko
ok i'm bored of telos now
quest cape pics
http://imgur.com/a/OIJUY
absolutelydisgusting.jpg
>>146826192
>tfw someone with a 'danger game at work' poster on their door and a handmade quest cape has a gf to take their picture and u never will
send help friends
>you can't reach that!
>you can't reach that!
>you can't reach that!
>you can't reach that!
>you can't reach that!
MAYBE DONT MAKE A BOSS WITH PRECISE POSITIONING MECHANICS IF THE GAME WONT LET YOU DO DAMAGE WHILE YOU'RE "UNDER" HIM AND BOUND
FUCK
>>146826192
almost as good as my crozier
friendly reminder that if you attack any of the adds in p3 you are doing the phase wrong
This new boss is total garbage
>positioning mechanics
>can walk you
>can set you up to not hit him while he heals
>if you dont freedom a full tick after he stuns you freedom goes on cooldown and the stun remains
>instakill mechanic
>shitty drops
A patch note week would have been better
>elite slayer monsters special drops are 1/10k
Did jagex try to make these monsters completely worthless on purpose or what?
>>146826192
wew
>>146827627
>positioning mechanics
either play a different game or don't complain about things like this
>can walk you
annoying but not a huge deal and you get used to it
>can set you up to not hit him while he heals
???
>if you dont freedom a full tick after he stuns you freedom goes on cooldown and the stun remains
never had this happen in 20 kills
>instakill mechanic
if you get instakilled fighting telos you have brain damage and deserved to die
>shitty drops
i'll give you this one for now but it depends on drop rates for weapon pieces at 100% enrage, the common drops are pretty bad though
>>146827627
but this is a patch note week
>>146828924
see >>146826423
If you're mid walk while you get rooted you cant attack and he heals until the effect wears off
happened to me at least once a fight my first 5 kills
>>146828924
>either play a different game or don't complain about things like this
Other than telos what bosses require you to stand on a specific square (or row of squares)?
I can't think of any
>>146829436
Vorago
Araxxor
Helwyr
>>146829608
Of those only one has the new anti-walk bullshit that can move your player even if you placed them properly, and it's one of the least popular bosses
I can see why people find it frustrating
Also Vorago and Araxxor give you way more than a single square
>>146829436
>>146829608
Yaka too
>>146829436
Does Nomad count
Is the outfit of seasons worth buying or are prices retarded now?
>>146825274
Summer Beach Party soon, famlia.
ded
Anyone got any tips for phase 3 telos? I'm at 58% enraged and barely make it through with usually 3 rock tails or sara brews with full perked malevolent and scythe and res'd all gelinor hits. But that phase 3 absolutely wrecks my shit. Once those minions appear, I immediately focus on killing them, then another appears on the other side of the beam and the boss gets into the beam and starts bombing 3ks nearly every tick. Panic and eat food while trying to simultaneously get rid of the other minions that are constantly charging his meter and keeping him out of the beam while watching out for his gelin or attack and bringing his health with maybe 1 attack if I'm lucky. And if I stand in beam, I can do more damage, but if he starts his stand still attack, it's basically a guaranteed 7k hit.
This fight is a clusterfuck. Any tips for phase three. Litreally every other phase is fine, I can't get past 58% enraged, got him to 74% but ran out of food at the beggining of phase 4 due to phase 3. What do?
BIG
FAT
CRYSTAL
TITTIES>tfw you will never fug seren
>>146833724
Fuck off weeb, I was looking forward to an actual crossover of FE and SMT but instead they give us idolshit.
>>146833669
zaros wouldn't allow it
>>146833636
dps as hard as you can. onslaught on the first red beam if you can. outside of that, all you can do is kill the minions. if there are no minions telos cant use his explosions.
>>146834443
>implying zaros isn't too busy with his "MUH ELDER GODS" nonsense to care about who fucks his sister
>>146834793
he was kind of created to care about her so yeah, I think he would
>>146835032
>implying he should be worried about her being in a relationship
I'm sorry but I don't see Zaros as the "Overprotective Brother" type of guy. Unless fucking Seren has ramifications, he wouldn't truly care. I mean, do you even know what his opinion on love is?
>>146835032
iirc Zaros was created first, then Mah created Seren to force him to stay
dubs names my bird
So what exactly does strength do nowadays? Does it boost ability damage or something? Please show me a damage formula, I wanna know what a few extra strength levels would do for me.
>>146836197
next to nothing
>>146836197
It adds about 2.5 points of damage to your base attack every level if I remember things correctly.
>>146836369
That sounds useless.
Why does that sound useless? I figured it would have been something like a small percentage boost to ability damage per level. I'd still like some citation though, maybe a damage formula or anything really. With that being said, how exactly does Attack function? Numbers would be nice. Is it true that Attack is a thousand times better than Strength these days?
>>146836556
yes but that's because most weapons have an attack requirement instead of strength
>>146835127
>>146835148
either way he is totally WHIPPED
>>146835127
If anything Zaros would only be upset over who Seren was fucking is if she wasn't plowing the chadist of chads.
>Only thing missing for Frem boots 4 is agile top
250 laps can go fuck themselves.
>>146838946
Would Zaros get mad if the World Guardian fucked Seren?
So has anyone gotten honed 5? Did it take a lot of gizmos?
What are some good ways to make money?
I've got about 50m and decent skill levels
>>146841596
slayer
What gear do I need for Telos
everquest is better
>>146842629
Preferably t90 augmented armour+weps, but it has been done on low enrage naked by one guy and by some 1 defence guy.
I personally use t90 weps + t80 armour, both augmented, but on low enrage you can manage fine with t70 (still try to use t90 weps because he has high defence).
>>146843204
>want to keybind the commands to wind up and release clockwork penguins to level agility faster
>have no idea what's going on in the control panel
>>146844407
>>146844456
I just want to keybind the "wind up" and "release" commands, which are the first and second that pop up when right-clicking respectively.
That screen is probably one of the most bloated things in RS and that's saying something
>>146844573
>>146844573
>Found out you need to put the actions in the combat bar
That's actually clever desu
>>146844865
bane?..
>Want to use keybinds
>Numbers just get typed in the chat and I can't seem to turn it off
>>146845062
bane?!..
Dr. Fenkenstrain, I'm H.A.M
>>146845610
he was trying to grab your fri's
Does releasing and catching clockwork penguins really grant 40k agility XP/hour?
>>146846431
P3 is by and large the worst part of the Telos fight. The first two phases are a breeze. P4 isn't really bad aside from the big damage you can't block from the fonts. Overall I think the fight would be cake of Resonance healed you off of the uppercut.
I want /tv/ to stay
>>146846431
why the fuck does telos not drop charms and potions like arraxi
>>146843204
>rsof
not even once
>>146845062
stop using lelgacy you cuck
or turn off always on mode
is Runescape still worth playing even if I don't buy the membership ? I may be buying membership if I get hooked again/ if I grind enough cash in game
Why does Kerapac seem like a Dragonkin version of Kharshai?
>Both of a race that look down on humans
>Both would rather further their studies while the rest of their race is generally more concerned with power in some way
>Both would rather you not dead
Granted, Kerapac wouldn't care much if you did, but he seems to realize the player character is useful.
>>146850887
>even if I don't buy the membership
If you grind your skills to become a member yes.
You can also play f2p to pay for membership with cash now but it takes a while.
>>146851296
oh in that case ill just start grinding up now
>>146850648
>rsof
>mfw I for some reason decided to do tech support on the forums right when NXT came out
>every other post was "Check if your cache is loaded by pressing alt-~ and typing 'displayfps'"
>every post between that was explaining that an 8 year old laptop cannot run NXT on ultra
>>146850892
Kerapac stands out because he's the first dragonkin you can interact with that doesn't want to kill you but he seems to be pretty much just your average Dactyl, aside from being a notoriously smart one apparently and also being white for some reason
how long until people realize that the telos weapons have shit drop rates and are insanely pricey and start buying back nox
>>146851968
holy shit this is beautiful
>runescape burnout is setting in
it's been fun lads. i just don't know what to do anymore.
no im not maxed.
>>146853001
>no im not maxed.
why not? you're far from running out of things to do
>>146853001
I know that feel, desu.
Try
quests
dungeoneering
achievement diaries/tasks/whatever the fuck they're called now
getting comp/mqpc reqsor take a break and play other autism sims.
Factorio's .13 update is out.
>>146853069
from 2004-2007 I played but not seriously. Biggest achievement was probably D Scimmy and then selling my entire bank for 1 whip multiple times.
Quit for good after Summoning/ Dungeoneering came out until New Years Eve of last year. Been playing ever since.
>tfw you get 63 dung and 77 summoning from lamps / xp rewards
>tfw you got bonecrusher + imp charmer from dung without even going into dungeons once.
Also, I just did the Myreque questline in a span of 2 days last month. Even the first one where you need to get steel weapons - that was way too much for me before g.e. existed back in 2004-2005.
>>146851968
>>146826916
Okay, that's what I'm struggling with. What do I do in phase 3 to avoid doing that?
Post good listenings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIARdsAbDU
>>146855019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS1lCWkluUo
>>146855254
good post
>>146855019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7faRubyT_k
>>146846657
You can reso the stun which is enough IMO
>for some reason pieces of bug chitin are much more powerful than the godsword
>the minions of the gods waste their time fighting over the godsword instead of trying to enslave araxxor, araxxi, or the kalphite king
I mean I know the godsword has some anti-god properties because of the way it was made, but still.
What combat style should I use for Telos?
>>146850472
He really should have a loot drop, potions/food drop, and. charms drop. I think he should have 2 loot drops too, gaining one each loot "rank" but giving less items than it does currently per loot. Like, instead of 77 staves you can roll 30 staves and 20 rune ore, etc. Closer to Raids bosses I suppose.
>>146855019
>This music
Fuck, I gotta go do this quest now.
>>146857710
The quest itself isn't all that good IIRC, but the music makes it worth it.
>>146856675
Pretty sure it's a case of lore =/= in game stats. Could also be any number of things like the bugs not being known about back during the god wars and now they're so obsessed with beating each other that they don't pay attention to the outside world.
>>146857820
I know, I know, it's just so frustrating sometimes.
And it could easily be explained away by saying that the godsword is made out of godbane ore or something.
Been a while since I last played.
What are some semi-afk money making methods? I remember handcannons being good because of invention.
>>146858060
>tank boots
>no quiver
raaaaaaaaa
who /mayhem makers/ here?
Is there a way to do every quest in the game without ever having to truly grind, meaning getting your stats entirely from quest reward xp and xp gained during the quests?would probably need quite some funding I'd imagine
>>146857407
Mage or melee
Melee with scythe and vamp scrim worked really well for me
>>146859052
Maybe?
I mean that's sort of what I did, but I did have to grind a little bit. I was also broke the whole time.
I wasn't exactly planning on doing it, though, and probably could have been wiser with how I spend my xp rewards.
In the end I think I wound up being forced to grind skills like construction and agility.
>>146859267
Thanks, anon.
>>146859342
Do you have a quest cape now?
>>146859740
Of course.
QPC was my first skillcape.
Do I lose my superior elite void knight set if I die at PvM?
>>146860290
Pretty sure you can reclaim it. Don't take my word for it though, been a while since I last died with void set.
Has anyone got 99 dung from complete sollo? I'd rather dung at my own pace then be on point every second or play with a team that doesn't understand how to gate doors and areas of the map. I'm currently at 86 and wondering how long it would take to reach 99 complete solo.
>>146860026
>qpc
>"""""skill """""cape
>>146860518
A while. Remember to do stinkholes.
>>146860523
quite right, considering it's worth at the bare minimum twice as much as a skillcape.
>>146860783
hOW SO?
>>146860683
Can only do 2 sink holes per day right?
>>146860831
You actually have to pay attention and move around and solve puzzles instead of clicking the same spot everyday for a year.
>>146860831
>The minimum total xp required for earning the Quest Point Cape is currently 42,587,392 without boosts
>13,034,431 is the xp needed to reach 99
Huh, so it's worth about 3.26 minimum now.
That's of course discounting all the hard work it actually takes to get the cape.
>>146861108
Oh and the fact that since it requires levels in multiple skills, the rate of xp/h doesn't increase nearly as much as most skills do.
>>146861108
Yes but this doesn't mean that questcape is worth anything
Indeed all the plebs have a quest cape
Therefore we can conclude that the quest cape is a pleb cape
>>146861341
>>Indeed all the plebs have a quest cape
>As of 17 March 2015 there were roughly 14,900 people able to wear this cape.
>>146861481
Yes? Those are the plebs, generally speaking.
>>146861623
>>Yes? Those are the plebs, generally speaking.
What, exactly then, do you consider a "pleb", xpAutist?
>>146861692
Anyone who's Total XP/10 000 000 is lower than their quest points
>>146861623
>those are the plebs
>not the 100k+ people who have 99 in strength
?????
>>146861949
>compfags are now plebs
I'm afraid you have terminal autism.
>>146860959
lmfao
Any retard can spacebar through dialogue and use guides for puzzles you delusional lorefag
>>146862572
then why haven't you done it?
>>146862032
221,571 actually
>>146862628
>then why haven't you gotten a shitter cape any retard can get by spacebaring through dialogue and use guides for the puzzles
>Agility is the rarest 99 out of the original skills
I can see why
Jagex has done absolutely nothing to make this worthwhile or fun
>>146862032
At least they are doing something smart with their time
>>146862167
Compfags aren't necessarily plebs, only if they have less than like 3.83b xp
>>146862810
what the fuck. why.
desu QPC is the only skill cape you actually have to maintain
it literally gets unequipped every time jagex shits out a new quest
takes some dedication
>>146863081
>qpc
>not trim
>>146861108
>>146861213
Max/comp/trim are way more "prestigious" and "hard" by this logic
>>146863386
that's because your objectively right
>>146863386
Then why doesn't every maxfag have a quest cape?
If it's so easy, if it's so worthless, why isn't it more common?
>>146863660
like you said, it's worthless
why get it?
>>146863759
So is 120, so is 200m xp.
So is 99 in firemaking.
>>146863660
Because it's a shitter cape
It's not hard to get
The only ""argument"" delusional lorefags have for it being ""prestigous"" is that it's rare which isn't an argument
>>146863856
But you need 99 firemaking to max, which have a reward in the form of the max guild and it's features.
What do you get when you have quest cape?
>>146863978>comp
dumbest discussion i've had the pleasure of reading
>>146863970
>rare which isn't an argument
You do realize the main determinate of value is scarcity, right?
Especially in a game like runescape, where the factors of necessity as well as supply are greatly diminished.
>>146864018
comp is as retarded as quest cape
not a single benefit on having it
>>146864118
>best cape in the game
>not a single benefit
???
Are Drygores still the best melee weapon in the game?
>>146864201
no lmao
>>146864116
Only for tradeables
Qpcs are untradeable and worthless, even if they're rare, especially considering any shitter can get them
>>146864118
you know the comp cape is BIS + a utility item right
>>146864282
>>Only for tradeables
Same principle applies to untradables.
Just like there's no way you could realistically sell a nuclear arsenal, but it has extreme value.
>>146864394
Not really. A shitter cape that anyone can get which has no value outside being rare is not actually prestigious.
>>146864721
Rarity is prestige you retard.
>>146864743
Qpcs aren't rare because they're "rare", it's because shitters are too lazy to get it. Things like dyes are actually rare since they're "hard" to get, not any shitter can go and get them
How long do you play? I can barely manage 4 hours before wanting to take a break.
How do I get back into this game lads?
My account is like from 07' and still has some level 20s.
>>146864743
Also prestige isn't only exclusive to rarity, it can have some elements of "work" to it, which is why comp and trim are more prestigious than qpc is ever gonna be, even if that "work" is autistic grinding
>>146864201
No.
Scythe is due to halberd range and because 2h melee abilities are superior to dw. T92 melee exists now anyways with the Zaros Godsword.
>Akthanakos smoking cartons and cartons of Camel cigarettes, trying to earn reward points so he can buy the leather jacket from the catalog
>>146855019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm7x20U412c
>Finally getting to use an ethernet cable for my internet
Sweet sweet stability here I come.
How's the 62-year-old streamer that's been accused of being a pedophile by Keemfaggot called?
>>146869301
tony or tommy or some shit like that
>>146869301
rsgloryandgold
>>146869301
YAHOOOOOO
Which drygores pair/combination is the best?
>>146869623
the one you can sell on the GE and buy better weapons
>>146869623
mh rapier and oh mace, i believe.
it doesnt matter much at all though.
>>146869729
aren't they comparable dps? why not mh mace for +9 pray bonus and any other offhand?
>>146869886
There are some monsters weak to stab.
>>146869886
mh mace damage 864
mh rapier damage 1102
>>146869980
Speed counts. They're the same.
>>146863203
>Not having a trimmed qpc
kek of keks.
>>146870103
>Speed counts
Only if you're using legacy
Abilities don't take speed into account.
>>146869980
to expand upon this, the rapier has higher auto attack damage (not ability damage).
>>146870230
ability damae is higher on the rapier/longsword than on the mace
>http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Queen_Black_Dragon/Strategies
This wiki guide says that the Tracking Gloves are better than the Armadyl Gloves. It also says that Glaiven Boots are a VERY superior option. Is this true? Is the armor much more valuable than the ranged bonus?
>>146870213
>Abilities don't take speed into account.
Yes they do
>>146871197
If I had to choose between Tracking and Armadyl I would go with Tracking.
However, between Tracking and Pernix, I would pick Pernix.
>>146871319
Since when?
And source
>>146871197
No the wiki guides are usually shit. Use power armor
>>146871341
Well obviously Pernix is better. Gonna assume that Tracking has far more statistical value than Armadyl gloves, thanks for the insight.
How accurate are these wiki bossing guides anyways? As far as their gear lists go.
>>146871464
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Ability_damage
Only for melee tho for some reason
>>146863020
the age of botting was a glorious time
I "accidentally" left my soul wars bot on for a week once while I went on vacation and came back to enough zeal for 99 strength.The rest got me 90 attack and 95 hp
>>146871763
Hmm, sounds strange, because all 2 handed weapons are average speed.
So that would only make difference for dual wield.
I'm gonna run some calcs and see if the difference is big enough to be worth taking advantage of.
>do 4 kills in a row without any problems
>fuck up p3 on 5th kill
>spammed with explosions
>there goes my loot
God fucking damn p3 is so punishing if you fuck it up
>>146872241
I've always wondered, how do people even test these kinds of things? Isn't it hard because hits are rng and can hit in a wide range of values?
>>146871763
>>146873106
So, based on the formula on the wiki, speed does only affect dual wield weapons, since all 2 handed are "Average".
I made this for t90s and t80s, and it does not look like it really matters.
The difference is small in t90s and even lower on t80s.
>>146873771
Are the ',' supposed to be '.'?
>>146874143
Yes
We use "," where I live
>>146874143
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Hindu.E2.80.93Arabic_numeral_system
For game cry
>>146873771
It's not supposed to make a difference, it's to compensate for the difference in raw damage so that it's all equal dps regardless of speed
>>146875350
Then using mh+oh mace is better because prayer bonus
>>146875156
is cute catte, reminds me of friends cat who lived to be very old. here are my cats before they ripperonied. god i miss them.
>tfw 95 thieving and all symbol pieces already
>>146875754
Geezum those are p cute
>become a member
>dont know what to do
>quit
Nice game.
>>146875671
Oh mace doesn't have prayer bonus I believe
>>146876491
True, but it would look better having them both look the same
>>146876470
>I'm too retarded to look for things to do, so that's obviously the game's fault
>tfw no dwarf cosmetic override
>you will grind as a badass, xenophobic, stout, beer-loving fuck
>>146876149
whats your agility level bb, i got 7/8 from 77-99 agility
>>146877231
90 but that's all lamps
none got from the hefin course
Trying to finish my mith dragon task, can never get more than 3 kills per trip unless I bring tons of sharks. I have very little gp but lots of stuff in the bank if I really need to invest in equipment or whatever.
95att/87str/84def/91con
80 ranged
83 magic
Currently doing shadow blitz and protect from ranged, any tips on better strats?
>>146877749
what gear are you using?
herblore level?
>>146877749
Assuming you're not using Superantifires, use Protect Mage not Range + Regular Antifires + Magic DragonFire Shield
>>146871497
This
>>146871197
If you have soul split and T80+ weapons you don't need to eat during the kill at all. Use the best power armor you can afford.
>>146877749
B A N E
A
N
E
>>146877845
Bought some skeletal gear, using that and culinaromancer gloves, slayer helm, antifire shield and wand of betrayal
>>146877749
big guy for you and super antifires
>>146878275
>antifire shield
well there's your problem, that doesn't protect against mith dragon fire
>>146878335
I did get a visage the other day, should I make a dfire shield?
Also not el bane.
Do coordinated PK groups exist? I swear I get hunted at Chaos Elemental a lot more when I have my online status set to show for everyone.
>>146878453
No you retard, use dragonbane bolts
If you don't have super antifires, use regular antifires and prot mage
Use highest tier mh oh cbows you have
>>146850892
Who is Kharshai? Is it even a Runescape character?
>>146878753
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Kharshai
>>146878634
Haven't done the quest and it would take a while for me to get there. Actually, considering that I haven't quested in 5 years, I might go for that.
>>146879113
The quest to get bane ammo were fun.
>>146878753
Kharshai is a mahjarrat who forgot he was a mahjarrat andwas living among the Fremmenik as Koschei the Deathless.
>>146878924
Oh that guy, I remember him but forgot his name.
>Visit Tears of Guthix for first time since coming back
Holy fuck, Juna got big.
>>146879821
for you.
>>146878225
>you don't need to eat during the kill at all
nice fucking shitpost but soul split isn't as good as you assume it is
>level 40 agi
Are clockwork suits the best way to level right now?
>>146880721
Yes.
>>146880721
No.
>>146880721
Maybe.
>>146880721
I don't know
>>146880721
Potentially.
>>146880721
It is a possibility.
Love to see that this thread is unhelpful as always.
>>146880721
>>146881628
>Q: The Armadylean head warmage looks a lot different to the rest. Is he from a different breed of [A]viansie?
>Mod Moltare: Yes, although the Aviansie consider it bad manners to.
What did he mean by this
>>146880585
I'm not assuming anything, I'm maxed. If you eat during a QBD kill you are a shitter.
>>146882813
It means that Aviansies don't consider different breeds "different"
>telos resets cooldown on defensives then fires a 5k+ typeless hit on you immediately after in phase 4
>Wake up
>>146885665
i'm tired
>>146885665grababrushandputalittlemakeup
>>146882990
Blue-pilled shit
>>146885915
t. Divisive bandosfag
ah okay
I fucking did it boys. It took all of the most OP shit I could think of and many attempts.
there's just too much stuff that can go wrong through the fight. I need a quick phase 3 and a little luck with beam placements on phase 5 to have any chance at farming 100%+ enrage.
>>146886918
>actually literally using rocktail soup and super sara brews
good job though u did it
Is this still active? Kind of tempted to try to recover my account I haven't touched in years.
>>146887467
We got like a new boss and new quests but other than that it's dead.
>>146887467
this general isnt too fast moving, but runescape in general is doing fine. mmos are dead but this is one of the few that still gets regular updates/still has a large amount of players left.
>>146887553
oh well, doubt I'd have been able to recover it anyways, been like 4 years
>>146887793
>mmos are dead
I blame microtransactions.
>>146887950
Utility features and causualization is mainly what kills MMOs, not so much MTX, though it is a part of it.
>>146887950
Blame the overexposure to online multiplayer.
When I got into MMOs it was because online gaming could only be done on a PC. Runescape became a chatroom with gameplay for me and my buddies in 2005.
Then they started shoehorning it into everything and every console got wifi and the novelty of MMOs began to die.
Runescape reached that point long before MTX arrived.Personally I dont think EOC helped either, by making combat require more attention/button presses people couldn't just do things semi-casually and chat anymore
>>146887950
I personally think its just this generation's taste in video games. No one seems to like grinding or min/maxing stats or even real role playing story telling elements anymore.
Rather the majority nowadays is more interested in more hand-on action packed games that require more reflexes and skill rather than strategy, planning and patience.
>>146889006
>I personally think its just this generation's taste in video games.
I will never understand the new generations preference for shorter games.
I see comments all the time with people saying shit like "22 hours? I'll never finish that. No single player game should be longer than 6-8 hours"
Makes no fucking sense. If you like something why wouldn't you want more of it? Unless they don't actually like it and they're just keeping up with it to stay up to date on Facebook/Reddits talking points
