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Mr. 76 can Hana Come Out to Play Edition

OW Invitational Grand Finals LG vs nV live at .tv/joshog

>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Competitive Info
http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://www.over.gg/

>The Oversheet (Damage values and other numbers)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Stats and Leaderboards (Unofficial)
https://masteroverwatch.com

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us

Previous thread: >>146679090 (Cross-thread)
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>>146712045
>literally copypasting even the match info from top
dude pay some attention please, the game is now over so its not relevant
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fresh memes
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Nth for trying to play McCree with no aim skills whatsoever
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>>146712474
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>>146712045
kill yourself you piece of fucking trash, fuck off to >>>/lolg/
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>>146712474
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Do you believe you can do better if your team is competent?
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Okay, /owg/!

What's your favorite map to defend on? What's your least favorite map to defend on?

What's your favorite map to attack on? What's your least favorite map to attack on?
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>league of legends picture
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which bowl would you use?
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>>146712470
probably a mistake
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>>146712576
yes because if people are running in solo it's putting more stress on you because you go into every encounter with a handicap.
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where my Hanzo niggas?
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>fighting pharah
>hit e to flash, see hand do gesture
>game goes "LOL YOU DIDENT PRESS E YOU FUCKTARD TRY AGAIN" and doesnt register that e press as pressing the fucking e key so it acts like I dident use flashbang at all
>die
This has fucking happened so fucking much since the last patch its ridiculous. Anyone else experience this?
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>tfw photobombed in my victory pic
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>>146712576
No, if I suck, I suck. It doesn't matter if my whole team plays perfectly and exposes an opening I can use for a flank if I then fumble up my play and get killed by a mechaless D.Va at melee range.

Just because your team is playing well that doesn't make you better, it just reduces the overall potential difficulty of encounters you might face.
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>>146712637
None because I am not 7.
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Why does ever video I watch about overwatch they hate solo q. And only want to play this game with friends. Like is it that big of a difference? I've only played solo.
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>>146712632

>Favorite Defense
Anubis (Fun but fair, Backs against the wall on point B with a nice skirmish for A)
>Least Favorite Defense
Numbani (More or less one avenue of attack. Long run to action)
>Favorite Attack
Hollywood (Good pace. Nice scenery. Fair approach)
>Least favorite Attack
HOLY FUCKING SHIT VOLSKAYA
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OH SHIT A LEGENDARY

Oh........
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>>146712983
depressing
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>>146712503
>when your team is winning and you think you're doing good, only to find out you have zero medals.
McCree is dead
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>>146712873
You done?
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Finished scanning today, but my internet is out and the engineer can't get here until Wednesday at the earliest. Hope y'all can wait just a little longer.
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>>146713035
what??
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>>146712983

I play a lot more solo than with friends.

It can be frustrating because if you're playing with decent friends you can coordinate ults, warn about shit, tell them what you're doing, etc.. generally results in more wins.

With public you're at the mercy of usually 2 or 3 players who play just for eliminations and POTGs.

>That one dude you see who always does his emote and sprays "Well played" after every double kill in hopes of the POTG
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>>146713097

Oh sweet. Looking forward to it Anon. Thanks.

Make sure it gets into the OP
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>>146713097
Based
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how would you r8 m8s

Been having fun with top zen recently
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>>146713019
>legendary currency
Nice
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>>146712632
Every map is pure bullshit.
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>>146713097
I love you anon and thank you for your hard work
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>>146712503
I think I'm one of the few that actually plays better at McRee post nerf
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>>146713168
legendary currency is a treasure chest.
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HUH?!?! THICK?!?!
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>>146712632
Hanamura B is usually pretty fucking fun to defend, lots of alternate routes, lots of different ways to attack and defend means its almost always a bit different. Point A is okay if you get an enemy team that aren't a bunch of cowards who are terrified of pushing. Honourable mention to Gibraltar because of the way the map causes changes in gameplay as it moves along.

Volskaya B is the opposite to that and its boring as fuck, A is alright.

For attack my favourite is Gibraltar for the aforementioned reasons.

Least favourite is Volskaya, for pretty much the reasons above as well. It's probably the worst map due to how railroady B is.
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>>146713039
Medals don't tell you shit. Maybe your team is just stomping harder than you are.

Even if you have gold, maybe everyone else is only a couple elms behind you
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>>146712867
Hanzo boys
>tfw shooting those fat scatterlogs into a chokepoint for multi elims
Easy Angles
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>>146713331
T H I C C
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sonygger here,

god damn the playerbase on ps4 is made of mostly drooling comatose retards.

at least those that get put on my team, whilst the enemy team is really looking foreward to competitive being released it seems

/blog
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>>146712045
>leagueshits aren't taking over, honest!
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Why is the matchmaking in this game so fucking garbage?
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>make a shooter thats 6v6
>implying you will ever have a consistent experience relying on just 5 other people

honestly starting to hate this game
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>>146712632
>favorite defend
Hollywood, but only after the enemy gets the payload moving
>favorite to attack
Volskaya. Enemy teams always prep for a siege, so my wildcard Soldier always fucks them up.
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>>146713416
They were always here
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>>146713416
fuck off waifu faggots this is OUR THREAD NOW
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>>146713405
Stop posting this fat bitch
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>>146712045
Hey guys how do you git gud with Winston? Also, bored just want to play with others who like traps.. Gt is: tazhimself <3

Xbox juan
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>don't play Hanzo
>loot crate gives me wolf Hanzo
>decide to use Hanzo
>get 4 POTG


mfw
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>>146713405
think you meant
F A T

christ what is that landwhale doing, i threw up a little in my mouth
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>>146713592
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How do you guys counter a good enemy Reaper?

Good as in his shots consistently connect, he melts you in CQC and knows when to ult/use his abilities.

Reaper and Tracer are too fucking annoying if they're played by a good player.
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Widow has got to be the most useless piece of shit hero in the game

>People thought her nerfs weren't enough at first
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>>146713680
Watch your flanks
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>>146713680
Shoot him until he dies.
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>it's another "/owg/ pretends to be intentionally obtuse by saying Mei is thin to spite the SJW boogeyman"

change the channel please

you can clearly see her legs and ass, she's chubby
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>>146713680


Roadhog's pretty good, he still dies to the hook combo before he can wraith form.

A good tracer can out play him.
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http://viralplayers.com/overwatchs-torbjorn-getting-nerf-consoles/

BECK TO DE DRAWIN' BEYYURD
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>>146713097
>178 files
>4.65GB
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>>146713687
they only made widow bad for bodyshotting retards.
good players can still easily dominate a match.
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>>146713842

>consoles

lel who cares
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>>146713867
>all but a ghost at the highest level when she used to be a lock
Her real problem is she can't get picks fast enough even with headshots. The scope change is worst than the damage nerf.
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Why are pubbers absolute retards?

None of them get the idea to go through side passages on Volskaya ever, so I'm the only one flanking against adderall addicted premades
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>>146713862
600dpi my man
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>>146713867
Does console have the aim assist bs that most console shooters have? I've been sniped by Widows, and in the killcam the reticle isn't close to my head.
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>>146714071

>You will never hug the blueberry

Why live
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Daily reminder that level =/= skill.
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>>146714136
20 tick meme
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Are the servers giving out or something? There's about a second or so between me shooting something in the training room and the damage registering
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>>146714216
Just kill me now
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Does Genji have a harder counter than Mei?
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>just finished call of juarez: gunslinger
>see mcree
Is it bad to main a hero? Do i need to pick up several to be good?
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This games matchmaking is so fucking streaky. I go from winning 5 or so games in a row to losing 5 or so games straight. It feels fucking awful. And they games almost always feel completely one sided. I'm talking <2 minutes losses on volskaya and shit. Feels like ass.
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>>146714296
Winston.
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>>146713867

Problem is you're asking too much from a player just to deal damage

Why pick her over Pharah?
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>>146714237
What does that mean?
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>>146714236
>Playing tracer in that team
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>>146712632
>Best defense
Gibraltar. Every control point of that map has creative defense potential.
>Worst defense
Hanamura.
Long walk to first point. Only one chokepoint for first point.
Second point is ok, but you'll be there for a long time.
>Best offense
Numbani
>Worst offense
Volskaya/Hanamura. I sure love spending two minutes respawning/running only to arrive at the largest turtle in the game.
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>>146713481
delete this
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>>146714328
You pick heroes depending on what's needed in a match. But there's nothing bad in having favourites.
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>>146714236
>That one fucking level 11
He probably didn't even know what the stars meant.
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>>146714360
We styled on them.
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>>146714332
this, I've been streaking a lot lately and they're low levels.
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>>146714216
>>146714279
>tfw forced to fap every time someone posts those perfect cocksucking lips
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>>146714236
>when forced 50 is in your favor
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>>146714291
winky face ;)
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>>146714495

honhonhonhon
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>>146714404
Fantastic.
Is there a guide in the OP for shit to look over before I buy the game? Like how to read team compositions etc?
T. 3k wn8 WoT player
at least this game is only 1v11 and not 1v29 like WoT
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They have to do something about how fucking impossible it is to get a lv2 out as Torbjorn if you're under ANY pressure

Fucking dvas peashooters can keep you from ever putting a level 2 out
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Why are Hanzo headshots so satisfying to land?
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>>146714495
I know that feel
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>>146712882
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Serious question does mei have any actual counters? Not crying or anything I legitimately can't think of a hero that can adequately handle 2 meis in Koth
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I've never played a game before that is so addicting yet also makes me want to kill myself constantly.
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How to play winston
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>>146714291

She's perfect
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>>146714216
>she'll never sit on your face after a long sniper session
Send help
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>>146714602
No that's how it should be.
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>>146714495
So good
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This game literally brings out my inner demons jesus christ i am 200% fucking mad FUCK
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To the anon earlier today who showed how to disable in-game text chat, holy SHIT thank you.

I can actually play without wanting to neck myself now.
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>>146714328
It's fine to main so long as you switch when you're not pulling your weight. A McCree will struggle to get silvers in many situations.
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>>146714236
after getting crushed about 10 times in a row i take anything i can get. its the best indicator for "i know how this game works". all it takes is one shitter to fuck the whole round up.
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>>146714676
Then make his level 1 stronger, his level 2 isn't even that strong (fucking 55 damage per second)

His level 1 might as well not be anything, it only serves as a way to get a level 2 out.
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>>146713337
I love the brief moment of hesitation before he jumps
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McCree is the epitome of lazy character design. He's simply the result of someone saying "cyborg cowboy" without putting any real thought into it. His robotic hand adds nothing. It isn't the hand he aims with and although he melees with it, it's no different than any other character's melee.
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Guys please help, I can't aim for shit on characters like McCree. How can I improve? I'm bringing my teams down.
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>>146714071
>Widow can no longer 1shot 5 people in the span of 10 seconds.
>This is a problem
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>>146714747
>don't get mad at the game whatsoever

Who /calm&collected/ here?
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>>146714671
Blizzard literally physically created the perfect woman
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>>146714236
I wonder how fucked the match making has to be for that to happen so reguarly.
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>>146714851
Play the game more

make sure you have 140+ FPS

experiment with sensitivity
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>>146714817
Delete this!
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>>146714817
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>>146714653
Cons:
>terrible map design
>ult charging meant for snowballing
>some characters made to infuriate solo que
>"deathpits are a good design choice" -Blizzard

Pros:
>roadhog and mccree
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How come Torbjorn's so goddamn short?
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>>146714747

I know this feel.

I am feelings pit in my stomach full of a burning rage that I never knew I had and the worst part is that it won't go away.
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>>146714874
FUCK YOUR PREMADES
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>>146713842
>>146713989
I feel so bad for console players...
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When this game first came out hanamura and volskaya were impossible on offense. Now it seems like those maps are absolute steamrolls that end in 2 minutes. What happened?
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>>146714594
The game gives you a general guide when you pick out characters, lets you know what each team needs/is missing, if anything. Like telling you that you need a tank, or a support player, or that your team has too many snipers. Be prepared to see the 'too many snipers' thing a lot.
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>>146714874
I HATE YOUR KIND I KNOW YOUR RAGING INSIDE FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYUJIN NO KURAE
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>>146714994
All it takes is for the defending team to lose one major fight while the attacking team has a lot of tries.
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>>146714653
>feel like you hate the game after several shitty matches in a row
>want to play again after just a few minutes of exiting the game
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>>146714641
Anyone with range.
The main counter less bitch in this game is zarya.
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>>146714919

Why is 144 fps so important?
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>Add guy to friends
>Prestige 2 level 78
>All mercy

How do these people enjoy video games.
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>>146714987

>That big dumb pistol twirl when she reloads

really DVa you're just over complicating things
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>>146714071
>>all but a ghost at the highest level when she used to be a lock
who fucking cares about your fucking pro scene.
it's a completely different game when playing with coordinated teams and in pubs.
and in regular pubs she can still fuck up everyone, high level or not
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>>146714870

It is for Widow

Without it she's pretty useless.
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>Torbs that set up turrets in plain view of the Attack spawn window

its like you're begging me to go Pharah and left click you to death
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>>146714772
>level 2 does 55 damage per second
>they're nerfing that on consoles by 30%

I'm triggered. I've never had a problem with enemy Torbs. He's gonna be entirely fucking useless on console now.
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>>146714919
I play with 10 fps.
What am I missing with having 140+?
Isn't the game too fast like that?
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>>146714216
Has anyone used her in that Bluberry-girl fetish from Willy Wonka?
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>>146715106
How can you be so shit at this game jesus christ.

Pharah goes up in the air, Reaper shifts when he is almost frozen, Winston jumps away, Mcree stuns and kills, D.va flies away, Widowmaker crushes her, Hanzo can 1 shot scatter arrow.
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>>146714919
I've tried lowering sensitivity to 8 but still have trouble keeping a bead. How do o change fps?
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>>146714332
FORCED
I
F
T
Y
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>Internet is fine
>Can torrent stream 6 different 1080p porns and shit and browse fine and dandy while playing games
>Play Overwatch
>After 2 games its unplayable because my net disconnects every 3 seconds and then reconnects for 3 seconds.
WHAT THE FUCK

THIS IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING
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>>146714875

they sure did
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>>146715095
Defense in this game is so fucking shit. At best you win after 5 minutes. At worst you're guarenteed to have to fight for 10 full minutes. Meanwhile attackers can win in only a couple if they're good. Plus with overtime mechanics and shit like ult coordinating it makes it even harder to hold points. Payload is the only game type where defense isn't total shit to be in but fuck me if I ever actually get to play it.

What's worse is because of the aggressive ass matchmaking even if you play defense you aren't guarenteed to be able to play offense next because it kicks you back to the lobby and you end up in a completely random game. At least competitive fixes this to some degree but holy shit fuck defense on capture maps.
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>>146714994
i hate the shitty maps in this game. its like they looked at how maps in TF2 were like banging your head on the fucking wall sometimes, just a fucking pointless meat grinder trying to capture a point where the enemy spawns 5 feet away, and were like "yeah thats cool lets do that". only the koth maps are playable.
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>>146714982
He's a midget.
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>Attacking on Volskaya
>Take A, as usual
>Three people on enemy team switch to torb
>Put their turrets so even if you take one out you're instamurdered by 2 others
>Sync their menstrual cycles so there's always someone MOLTEN COOOOOOOOOORing.
>We lose
>"GG EZ"
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>>146714819
He fans the hammer with it
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>>146714817
Blue doesn't suit her with normal skin. Make her hair brown and her suit a different color; experiment with it.
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>>146714817
>>146714926
Seriously though why is her skin purple
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>>146715314
>Perfect
>Gook
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>>146712942
>not being 7
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>>146715301
Who the fuck knows. Overwatch was fine for me at launch but then a couple weeks ago I'd constantly get major ping spikes that would make it unplayable while my internet was fine everywhere else. Then after a week of that it went away and was back to normal like it never happened.
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I'm getting real tired of shitty Widows and Symmetras. Widows are explain themselves but I will never understand people who go Symmetra when as the ONLY support. If your team needs a support then go Lucio, Mercy or Zen. If they already have one of those THEN you can go Symmetra.
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CONTEST THE POINT
CONTEST ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>146715107
The game is smoother. At 140+ fps, even if it dips you won't be impacted since 140 is high enough for that margin.

>>146715280
>I've tried lowering sensitivity to 8
Lower sensitivity isn't always the answer; the answer is picking a sensitivity and practicing with it and getting used to it.

>How do I change FPS?
Lower your graphics settings.
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>>146715394
Talon Lowered her body temperature and slowed her heart so her skin is blue now
read the lore
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>>146715362
Volskaya is particularly terrible for torb turret dick sucking
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>>146714875

You betcha
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>>146715543
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>>146715502

Are we talking input lag wise?

I've noticed you can feel the game play difference even between 70-100.

Feels bad man.
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>>146712632
Watchpoint: Gibraltar
Volskaya Industries
Ilios
Temple of Anubis
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>>146715529
Is that why shooting her won't fuck with her aim?
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>>146715187
That's okay.
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>>146715529
Obviously I was just testing you
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>>146715386
Normal skin + redbrown hair would probably look good. Make her have a Tracer color scheme, it'd fit.
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>>146715187
No, you're just bad.
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How do I not be horrible with lime green ninja man?
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>>146715095
>>146715326
At beginner level it's a meat grinder to get in the first point, at average its a meat grinder to get the 2nd point and usually ends with the defence having worked like crazy to hold the attack off for a long time but then they attack win because they finally got lucky, and at high level they're just steamrolls for the attackers.

Hopefully Blizz realises that the 2CP maps are by far the least enjoyable at all levels of play and so doesn't make any more of them.
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>>146715330
Turbine.
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>>146715106
What about anubis, two Mei's a Toblerone and a Winston?
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>play symmetra
>stop trying to build death rooms
>use turrets to scout flank routes instead
>start winning

shame she's still such a situational pick
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>>146715772
git good goof
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>>146715314

Perfection
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>>146715772

You need to drink gallons of baja blast mountain dew so you can ninja to the extreme.
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>>146715772
Go fast. Seriously. I sucked at him for a while before realizing that the best way to play him is to never stop moving. Take advantage of the double jump, climb shit, dash everywhere. Nyoom.
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>game is going badly and team isn't playing well
>teammate starts acting slutty and dirty talking in chat
>team instantly starts doing better, turns the table and wins
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>>146714594
There's a bunch of fairly good "things to know before you start" type videos, but the only way to actually learn team compositions and playing/choosing heroes is playing maps and knowing who's good where.
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>>146714747
This game has really unlocked an inner rage I never knew I had. I really hope ranked is even at least slightly better than quickplay.

My theory is that it combines the worst elements of the gaming community: FPS players and MOBA players. Both salty as fuck in their own right but together they form a community full of fucking idiots and their rage inducing aspects.
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>>146715772
Bunny hop a lot. You can double jump to fuck with people's aim.
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>I now have a folder dedicated to overwatch memes
>92 images
>37 of which are Zarya
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>>146713687
this dude's nips are too high
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>>146715095
But the defending team usually has turrets and height advantage
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>>146715747

>Hero dissapears from comp scene after nerfs
>Is always a liability game losing hero in pubs after nerfs

>"no you're just le bad le ebin contrarian"

Anon pls
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>>146715789
They really are terrible and unfun. Doesn't help that they have the absolute worst maps in the game as well. Payload, hybrid and King of the hill are all way more balanced with better maps and a lot more back and forth.
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>>146715789

In my mmr, you rarely have a team successfully defend.

After first point, if anyone is caught in the field behind, you lose.
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>>146715772
u aint playing him right senpai
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>>146713784
ok, so what?
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>>146715405
>He thinks Korean women aren't literal perfection
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>>146714747

I don't get it. I always thought of myself as really cool with this sort of shit. But this game actually makes me want to murder people. I ACTUALLY did the "Where do you live" thing in chat. I can't believe it. I actually went internet tough guy. And I felt like such an idiot afterwards.

I'm making progress though. I find only playing with friends and turning off team chat helps immensely.
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>>146715314
>>146715850
Would ejaculate in mountain dew and have her drink it
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>>146712632
Dorado (more for the ending part)
Anubis
King's Row/Ilios (KOTH)
Hollywood/Chong Tower (KOTH)
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>>146716010
This is my experience too. First point usually goes within 2 minutes and if you're team is half dead when they cap it you're fucked and already lost point B as well.
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>>146715909
Were they a healer?
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>>146714136
This is something that happens in FPS's pretty often. There's tons of cases in TF2 server-side footage that a sniper shot completely misses someone's head and it registers as a headshot and vice-versa.
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>Torb is nearly always ridiculously effective on defense, to the point where you shouldn't really defend without one

>Gets boring as sin after like one game

We need more defensive heroes added that are as effective as he is

Or just buff Mei so she's better at her intended role

Or buff Widow's Venom Mine so she's better at being an actual defender.
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I got first win of the day twice in one day wtf?
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Banana or Desert for Winston?
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>>146715270
>playing Zarya
>Mei starts freezing me
>slowing down
>she gets closer thinking I'm about to freeze up so she can headshot
>bubble
>fuck her face with my laser
that's some satisfying shit, mang
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>>146716210
>getting bored as Torb
How? run out there, shoot bitches.
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>>146712867

Oh hey look it's the guy I only play when my entire team is fucking clownshoes
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>>146716210

>Buff Mei
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How do you carry in this game
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>>146715859
But I'm on a diet and I don't drink soda anymore
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>>146715502
I have my graphics lowered a lot but I just can't seem to hit with McCree at all still
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>>146716162
It was a Reaper
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>>146714594
just ask people here for advice and then do the opposite of what they tell you to do
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MOLETENNGGCCOOARR
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Would a hero that can use disguises/holograms fit in Overwatch?

How would they work?
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>>146716210
Torb and Symmetra are both very effective because they are builders.

You literally sacrifice almost all viability on offense so you can be that strong
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>>146716078
Korean sounds like nails on a chalkboard. If not for that, I might like them.
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>>146715314

>will never be able to rub your dick in dorito crumbs and make her lick it clean
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>>146716362
Fuck off spyfaggots
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>>146715979
IIRC weren't Hanamura and Anubis both there when they announced the game? If that's the case then it makes sense that they're the worst maps+gamemodes since the game was less developed at that point. As the "meta" emerged and the designers got a better hold of how things played out in testing they probably realised all the same problems and started making the other maps. Anyone know what order the maps came out in development (through beta)?
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>>146716296
You literally can't. The closest to carrying you can get is playing a tank or healer to round out the team as necessary.
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>>146712675
you're a mistake
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Why am I constantly thrown into matches where people are level 10 to 30ish and insta-pick Genji/Hanzo? I know levels don't mean anything in the big picture, but one or two days ago I was getting matches wherein both teams were full of 70+ people and the team compositions made sense for the most part. Why is this shit happening? My win rate has only been going up lately. I would say something about a forced fifty if not for the fact my opposing teams have been equally shitty of late, so the games are a coin toss.

>tfw all games have felt like shit today
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>>146716210
if you're getting bored as torb then try running around and 1 shotting people with right click, if your sentry is in a good spot it should be nearly impossible to kill anyway
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>>146715961
You realize pro players are only interested in abusing overtuned/OP heroes right? That's why they abused the fuck out of McCree/Widowfor a long time. They all want the edge they brought because of how overpowered they were. Just because 90% of a games pro scene are meta dickriders doesn't mean she isn't good anymore.

Widow has not disappeared entirely also. She has gotten less popular because she isn't easy mode anymore. Competitive players want heroes that can do consistent damage. Since you can no longer bodyshot people to kill them players who were never good with her became less effective, while players who were good with her remained relatively the same. That's why heroes like Soldier 76 and Winston are extremely popular in pro matches, they are consistent damage just by tracking people.

Widow is 100% fine where she is. People who can hit headshots still do well with her and she no longer rewards bad players.
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>>146716078
>Need plastic surgery and three metric tons of makeup to like passably average
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>>146716362

>Shooting literally every teammate just to check if they're a spy
>Having tons of fun just to have it interrupted by a fucking backstabbing cunt

NEVER. AGAIN.
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>>146716298

How else is one to embrace the inner weeaboo?
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>>146714819
waaaaa me no like thing
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>Torb is getting overnerfed on consoles because babbies complained
So many problems would be solved if every hero had a limit of one. Torb isn't overpowered on console. 2-3 Torbs is what creates the problem
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>>146716078
>perfection
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>>146716603
Play Pharah
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>>146716443
> That's why they abused the fuck out of McCree/Widowfor a long time.

They literally had to make a rule so people would stop stacking Widow/McCrees on every team. Pro players will abuse anything they can to get a win if it doesn't disqualify them.
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>>146716609
ayy lmao
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>>146716429
The match making in the game is terrible. That is the bottom line. Whatever method they are using is either working poorly or designed badly.

Ranked comes out in a few days which will alleviate the problem so there is that to look forward to. But yeah going from a fun pitched match against two even teams to a fucking stomp where your Rank 9 teammates insta-lock Torb and Widow on fucking Route 66 attack and then proceed to do nothing is infuriating.
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>bastion and torb used in PROFESSIONAL games
what the fuck is your excuse for not nerfing these pieces of shit now???
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>>146716603

For real man

There is no reason, gameplay or story, why there should be more than one of any character allowed on a team. There are 21 characters. Maybe if the children were forced to play anything other than Hanzo or Reaper the game would be a better place.
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>X is fine if your'e good
>But they don't use her in high level
>well actual competitive doesn't count
There's no point of even talking about fucking pub balance. Game could be perfect and nothing would help the average moron. Competitive play is just what happens when people bother to have mics and don't solo
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>>146715159
>he doesn't twirl his pistol when he reloads
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>>146716609
it's like a horrible kardashian nightmare
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>>146716715
Because being strong in specific situations and shitting on retards doesn't make something op
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>>146716609
They all look like aliens
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>>146715475
B-but m-muh KDR!
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Torb is one of those characters that is completely useless or game breakingly annoying. If he gets set up on defense with a strong team he's constantly shitting out armor packs which make a huge difference in team fights and if you ever actually manage to get near the turret he ults and you're literally fucked

His ult needs a hard nerf.
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>>146716267
This. Torb Melts people with his gun.

18 ammo

Left click
2 rounds per sec
70 damage
double damage on headshot

Right click
takes 3 ammo
1.33 rounds per sec
6-15 x 10 damage
double damage on headshot
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>>146716228
The game counts starting it up as a new "day"
So if you play, win a match, close the game out, then play and win a match again you get the bonus twice.
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>>146714635
Didn't notice the Tracer photobomb
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>>146715543
I really like pharah's design in a non-lewd way.
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>>146715743
So basically Kerrigan pre-zerg but french and darker hair
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>waah the defense character is good at keeping me off the objective

what the fuck /owg/
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Anyone else awful with hitscan but a total butcher nades and rockets?
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A friendly reminder that all heroes have counters.

Bastion
>Mei, Widowmaker, Junkrat, Pharah, Reaper, Hanzo

D.va
>Reaper, Zenyatta, Roadhog

Genji
>Winston, Symmetra, Mei, D.Va

Hanzo
>Winston, Roadhog, Widowmaker, Tracer

Junkrat
>Reaper, Hanzo, Roadhog, Soldier 76

Lucio
>Pharah, McCree, Zarya, Soldier 76

McCree
>Widowmaker, Genji, Torbjorn, Hanzo

Mei
>Zarya, Junkrat, Soldier 76, Lucio

Mercy
>Genji, Winston, Tracer, Widowmaker

Pharah
>Soldier 76, Widowmaker, Roadhog

Reaper
>Pharah, McCree, Genji, Lucio

Reinhardt
>Roadhog, Pharah, McCree, Zenyatta

Roadhog
>Genji, Reaper, Soldier 76, Torbjorn

Soldier 76
>McCree, Widowmaker, Zarya, Reinhardt

Symmetra
>Reaper, Winston, Junkrat, Pharah

Torbjorn
>Mei, Pharah, Reaper, D.va

Tracer
>Roadhog, McCree, Winston, Mei

Widowmaker
>Tracer, Reaper, Winston, Soldier 76, a better Widowmaker

Winston
>Zarya, Reaper, Lucio, McCree

Zarya
>Pharah, Bastion, Widowmaker, Junkrat

Zenyatta
>Tracer, Zarya, Reaper, Soldier
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>>146716253
Anyone? Winston's skins kind of suck.
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>People who leave ranked games excessively will now get a 75% EXP reduction and be banned from ranked up to a full a season depending on how much they leave.
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>>146716210
>buff Mei
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>>146716253
>>146716945
Red Planet or one of his Diving Suit skins
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>>146716609
not even native koreans like these abominations though
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I thought Blizzard followed that whole 'doughnut' balancing ideal? Now they're worried about pubs that lose to Mei?
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>>146716715

>Bastion
>Used in 1 specific comp by 1 specific team
>As soon as formation breaks (and it always is), he's switched out
>Torbjorn
>Used in very specific situations
>Once point's lost, hes switched out

Extremely broken.
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>>146716857
Not only that, but running out and getting kills means more scrap, which means more armor for your team.

One time my team was all caught in a Zarya ult, and I just dumped all my scrap for armor at our feet and we all survived and raped that Zarya.

Torb is a beast no matter how you cut it.
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So I've been revenge picking Genji on teams that won't play both a support and a healer.

*Ill play either if we have the other, but neither if we don't.*

Juking people on the point is fun as fuck with this character.
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