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SAS Is Best Edition

>Steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/R6GO

>Teamspeak for /vg/ operations
OperatorOperations.teamspeak.host
The password is: Operations

>Official news
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/news/index.aspx

http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-us/updates/dustline.aspx

http://blog.ubi.com/rainbow-six-siege-post-launch-maps-operators-modes/

>Developer AMA Recap
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1349361-Developer-AMA-Recap

>Maps and drawing tools for all available gamemodes
http://www.r6maps.com/
http://rainbow6.ubi.com/siege/en-US/whiteboard/landing.aspx

>Weapons and Armor damage comparisons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fr6MsLNfjDlPESlHGUQxoRiR3yChpewKQAlsOHXG5A8/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true

>Known Issues:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1332624-Known-Issues

>Basics of CQB Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/ECbQGdVk (embed)

>Steam group player list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nB6S5xtZFuAlnX24VG6IVvOYnI18oOlV2W0SPM3OjaE/edit?pli=1#gid=375665432

>Console group
PS4: Add dazint8 or Omegaplaya and join the /r6g/ community that way
Xbone: Add IMadSpykeI (the 'I' are capital 'i's)

>All the Classic Rainbow 6 games running on the latest engine, compatible with current windows, all maps, all modes.

http://www.legendsworld.net/shooter/game/11094

>WIP /r6g/ guide for crosshair overlays, tactics etc
http://hnng.moe/7Ik
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>>146459572
Memorize the maps, know the cover that's inside the objective rooms

Keep sound up, listen for ripping tape of C4 or plastering of breaching charges

At higher levels you'll need to watch certain windows because there will always be that one nigger trying to spawncamp

Keep your drones alive, having intel on where people are is 80% of the battle when attacking

>>146459869
Watch the faggot mods/jannies delete that image for off topic. They have nothing better to do in /vg/.
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nothing personal
kid
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blackbeard is blatantly overpowered lol
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>>146460245
no
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>>146460245
t. faggot who doesn't even try to flank him
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fill in the blank

>shields are _____
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>>146461687
GEY
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Somebody in Australia play some casual with me pls
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>>146461687
Fun
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>>146461687
for blitz only rest need not to apply
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>teammate with no mic takes defuser to basement bomb on House when no one is defending the up stairs bomb site and they reinforced the floor
>proceed to kill him and take defuser before its too late
>plant it then proceed to wipe out the 3 people left on the enemy team by myself and winning the round for us
>teammate kills me back then proceeds to do this

Casual was a mistake.
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>>146462770
did he at least let you valk cam before tking
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>>146463894
Nope
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>>146463943
its never the smart ones
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Tactical bump
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>>146462770
>playing with subtitles enabled
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Im so fucking sick of this game.
>Someone reinforces the floor hatch
>Someone puts smoke bombs in the objective room
>Someone stands infront of kill holes
>Someone refuses to get off the fucking cams when there are enemies in the goddamn room
>someone dies and doesn't immediately call out who killed him and from where
>Someone sees his team mate die and literally immediately runs into the same room and gets gunned down
>someone picks kapkan
>Someone picks Glaz but doesnt do anything
>Someone picks Castle and turns the Objective room into a tomb
>Someone places a breach charge when sledge is standing right behind them
>Someone wastes an entire minute peaking around the objective room without planting
>Someone keeps spamming scan on your drone when you are trying to hide it in the objective room


Literally all you need is some fucking common sense to not do any of these things. It's not even a "skill thing" its a "not being a fucking goober thing".
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>>146466647
i deliberately do that to spite people whos drones are still alive if mine died more points for me heheheheh
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>>146466647
>>Someone keeps spamming scan on your drone when you are trying to hide it in the objective room

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
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>>146466647
There is nothing wrong with Kapkan though oh and you forgot
>Someone reinforces the walls between the bombs
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>>146466982
>Someone reinforces the walls between the bombs

AAAAAAAA
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>>146466982
Literally any other operator is going to be more helpful than kapkan.

No one falls for kapkan traps, even chanka is better now with his buffs.
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>>146467083
Did you miss the buff or something? because i see people getting killed by his trap quite often lately.
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>>146467083
>no one fall for kapkan traps
>after buff i see at least one person dying to his trap each round kapkan is played

baka pham
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>>146467420
>pick frost
>much better traps that people still fall for
>pick any other defender
>much more useful perks including blocking all projectiles, doubling your teams health, a mounted machine gun, 3 area denial smoke bombs, The ability to revive team mate etc
>Pick kapkan
>get situational door traps that glow red and everyone sees.
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>>146467863
Tachanka is still garbage and will lose the peekaboo game almost always or will get himself killed from a cooked grenade
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>>146467863

Kapkan is top tier on day maps
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>Diamond bundle
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What determines if you get downed or killed?
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>>146469420

>gravy fry bundle
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>>146470367
headshot
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>>146470367
headshot, or if you've already been downed and you get shot to 0hp again you get killed.
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>>146470367
You have 120HP in total the 20HP not being shown, if you get shot and lose 109HP you get into the DBNO state.
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You guys anything from the sale yet?
Been looking for another shooter but far cry 4 is the only thing that looks interesting with a €10 budget.
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>>146471947
godly sex human revolution, shit's only for 5 euroshekels
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>>146472240
Got it already, can clearly remember the piss filter.
Mankind divided looks interesting and without the filter.
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So I've been wanting to get this game for PC for a long time, but already have it on console because friend reasons. Is would it be worth it now that the sale is up?
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>>146471947
Nope. I dislike Steam, only use it because I have two hundred games there I've been gifted in the last decade. That and some of my friends refuse to use Skype to chat, so I'm stuck using the messenger on Steam.
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>>146472727
>buying the same game for different platforms
If you have so much money to throw away then sure
>playing fps on a console
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Daily reminder Trashkan is still trash.
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>>146474650
t. fagchanka
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>>146474813
The fuck did you say hohol scum
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>>146472897
>Using Skype
>In $CURRENT_YEAR
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>>146474813
Some of you guys are alright, don't go to the garage tomorrow
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>>146471947
I was thinking about finally getting Half Life 1 and 2. Aside from that the only thing I'll probably get is Blood and Wine, I've got enough of a backlog as it is.
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>>146471947

I prefer multiplayer games to much
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>sledge
>kill 2 people in consulate basement
>team gets another two while I plant
>sneak up behind the fifth
>hammer time
>miss
>teammate saw and sprays us both down
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>>146472727
Yes. It plays differently on PC
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Okay, so in game voice chat only displays one person at a time.
When 2 people (call them A and B) talk at the same time, only person A, who talked first, gets displayed.
But if person A stops talking, while person B continues to talk, the game will still only display person A.
Not knowing who is talking can be very annoying when they are calling for help, or when they are calling for something 'at their position.'
Since you can only have a maximum of five people on your team, would it really be hard, or inconvenient, to display up to five talking players at once?
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>>146480665
You're right, the ingame voice chat is shit.

It would be even more helpful if their compass location was shown beside their name.

Ubisoft shenanigans, what did you expect
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I stopped playing before the first dlc came out did they buff IQ?
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>>146481175
Yes, she's one of the best operators.
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>>146462038
>no shield montagne
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>>146481348
No.
>>146481175
Yes, they buffed her and she is quite useful for the kapkan traps and valkyrie cameras. Plus her AUG is still beast.
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I have 265 renown, how could I best get enough to get the French Fry Buck pack?
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>>146481175
There's been a lot of changes to the game since then
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>>146466497
Why not?
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>>146466497
I use the subtitles because I can't hear the game properly over my music
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>>146484146
>Playing Siege with music on
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>>146484146
>listening to music while playing
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>>146484904
>>146484948
>not listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQ6KqTlyfk while fuzing the hostage
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>>146485132
>Not playing all rookie squad while https://youtu.be/iFkbyajVWR8 plays loudly
Are you 8 real right now.
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This game is so damn addictive.
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>>146487947
I've been on a losing streak lately, so at least for a while the charm is lost on me. Playing LISA but fuck if I don't like dying in that game either.
So in between bouts of Siege I have to turn on dreamlike soundscapes or risk killing myself from the stress
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>>146488363
>Constant 0-3 blowouts
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>>146488363
I know how you feel, however I need to grind for Renown to get the new bundle before it is gone. 711/50000.
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Hah. People complaining about the game being dead while playing Siege.
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"I swear, if I ever met Tom Clancy I'd like to hoof him in his nards." -Random
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>>146488905
That buck bundle is temporary?
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>>146490361
No one knows for sure, this is Ubi after all.
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>>146490696
Oh, well I bought it anyway. Kind of overpriced but whatever.
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50,000 is the price or two DLC operators. Christ Ubi.
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>Playing random casual
>Start round as defender
>Tachanka runs off while we fortify like a cunt
>Round starts
>He almost immediately kills 4 people with his MG through a window

Alright.
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Anyone got the chunky tachanka picture? The rule 63 one.
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>>146493846
I'm just going to wait until the DLC operator bundle comes out before each new season. There was a JTF2 operator bundle for 35k renown right before Dust Line was released.
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Just got this game today, which operators should I MUST HAVE for defense/attack?
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>>146495242
Thermite is very useful for attack.
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>>146495242
People say thermite and rook are essential but I haven't bothered yet because they seem really boring

Honestly pick whichever operators seem fun and interesting to you. At the end of the day you're playing for enjoyment so don't just pick whatever is "most effective"

I would recommend not to buy glaz until you've played a bit more and not to buy a shield op until you've done a few rounds as the recruit with a shield
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>>146495242
Rook and castle are easy and useful defenders.

Sledge, fuze and the shield Op of your choice for attack.
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>>146495072
THICK 3 armor 1 speed female operator WHEN
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>>146496704
Please don't bait new players into choosing Castle, if you don't know what you're doing you'll be a detriment to your team.
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>>146496704
>Castle
>easy
>useful
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>>146497274
>>146497629
>Making windows binary is not useful
>le too easy to breach maymay

He's more useful than bandit 9/10 times.
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>>146497827
What actually happens

>getting locked into the objective room by some dumbfuck
>getting locked out of the objective room by some dumbfuck
>Fuze safely cluster charges the objective room
>giving Glaz free kills if someone is spotted on a drone, or just peeking through the cluster charge hole
>Sledge and Ash make him useless
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>>146490339
>don't worry you'll meet him soon
>*teleports behind Random*
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Is Lone Wolf Terrorist Hunt higher renown awarding in geneal? I really need to farm Renown for Buck "Don't give a single Fuck" and his french fry charm. I was slightly stupid and used my free twenty four hour booster thinking I could just rando it up in T Hunt and PvP.
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>>146498741
Idle overnight in lone wolf realistic terrorist hunt

Play ranked
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>>146497827
He is only usefull if paired with Mute if he is alone he will make it alot easier for the Attackers by either locking out teammates turning the room into a tomb or allowing them to breach the room safely.
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>>146499483
This

Castle + mute is great like rook + doc
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>>146499149
But I want to do it legitly!
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I will never understand why someone would queue up for a game of R6 then step away and not play the game.
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Now in Webm form!
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>>146500826
>ontmanteltool
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>>146500826
>>146500880
>ontmanteltool
>niet ontmantelgereedschap
wtf ubi
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>>146498491
>>146499483
Castle walling windows doesn't lock you in, last time i checked the floor hatch and doors are you exits.

Castle is not top tier, but he DOES have a use which is barricading windows.
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>>146501351
Here is one trick for the books if you got a mute jamming the barricaded windows wait near them and listen for either fuze or someone else to deploy a charge you can just rip open the barricade and kill them with the shotgun closing the barricade right after.
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>unload an entire magazine of mp5 at close range on someone rappeling
>not a single hit actually registered, he's full hp despite all the blood

>bash a wooden door once
>kaplan trap magically explode

I bought that shit for 15€ and I feel scammed. I knew this trash would have a shitty console netcode.
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>>146500481
Better get renown grinding then. Disarm bomb gives more renown than the other 3 terrorist hunt modes, but it's slightly harder and takes longer to complete.
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>>146466852
>look at a wall or the floor

wew
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>be winning 4v4 game
>suddenly becomes 2v4
>proceed to lose next two rounds
>enemy team tbags over an easy win

But why
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http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/Dragoneye%20VIII/video/18941659
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>>146503289
So you can whine about it on 4chan like the little bitch you are
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Has anyone played Yacht lately? I just realized I haven't played that map in a long time.
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>>146503392
1v1 me blackbeard only
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>>146503468
Played it a few sessions ago.
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>>146503117
Ah, thanks mate. I'll get on to it. I think I have around 2K renown currently, even with my booster.
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Deploying tactical bump! Clear!
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Feels good to lose 87 rank points because of an obvious aimbotter
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2812/50000.
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SHITTY NETCODE
SHITTY SERVERS
SHITTY GAME
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>>146507735
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>>146510198
Every fucking time, every fucking variant makes me laugh.
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Ubisoft was going to release those UK weapon skins but they decided against it to not look racist

I'm making this up but come on its probably true.
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>>146507735
sounds like bad aim
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>>146511946
They named the skin Saltire for some reason
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>>146511946
Nah, we got US skins already. Now what is believable is if causes a bug so they can't release them. I wouldn't put it pass Ubisoft to create a skin that somehow breaks the game.
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>>146510198
>no tachanka, not there either
Every fucking time.
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>>146485871


YOU DIE ON MY COMMAND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSR9W8g6ak8
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>>146485871
>>146514307

>New Warhammer 40k game
>its literally a siege reskin but were playing as IG
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Bunnnnzzzz
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>>146481175
No she can't see through smoke anymore. I'm pretty sure a new dlc op is gonna take that ability.

I want that and a flashbang operator
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>>146507206
Tfw
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>played 5 games in a row
>everyone on my team spoke a foreign language
>they keep shouting commands at me as if I understand them

I swear to god if I hear boa one more time
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>Game goes to 2-1 in our favor
>Dickhead teamkills two of us and gets kicked
>Lose round, 2-2
>One guy is AFK, 3v5
>We actually pull it off using good teamwork
>Connection to servers lost :^) before the round ends completely
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headgear is 2 spooky ubi plz remove
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>>146523973
>It's a monton gets into a staring match with someone before getting nitro cell'd match
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>Playing against an ESL clan stack
>In casual
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>>146524503
>you end up winning

Unrelated does anybody know where this is from? It was posted previously a few threads ago
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>create hole in wall to get to both bomb sites easily
>teammate proceeds to reinforce the hole
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>Picks castle instead of pulse
>Picks frost instead of valkerie
>Picks dock before rook
>Picks thatcher before thermite
Why do people do this?
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>>146524707
Ghost in the shell, the first movie I think.
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>>146525276
>>146524707

Yes original Ghost in the Shell watch it anon its amazing. SAC is really good too. Glad to see someone take interest in it. Have fun!
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What does it mean?

[/spoiler yes its from reddit /spoiler]
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>>146526728


Either BRs or the university
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Does whoever decided to render bodies and smoke client side still work at Ubisoft?
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Probably
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>>146528073
damn
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>>146526728
Looks rundown, maybe the map for the BRs. Could also be another Bartlett University map made from scratch. Maybe the devs realized the one from Article 5 isn't good as a PvP map
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>>146528359
>>146529091
this is pretty cheeki m8
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Thermite and Ash have shockingly good AR's. Shame that FBI has those and are also using orange as their icon color, since favorite color or not they are so boring.

>>146525072
I tend to be the guy that reinforces holes if you make them and immediately go off somewhere else. Area integrity is key to a good defense!
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>>146529384
> Area integrity is key to a good defense!

Yeah because locking the team off from an objective is a good idea you retard.
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Just lost three hours of boosted renown hunting because of internet shitting itself. Is their any downside to leaving my game running on T Hunt like people have mentioned, aside from my own conscience bothering me for it?
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>>146529525
Securing walls that Thermite or Sledge, or anyone with a breaching charge can remove from the area defense is what I meant, friend.
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>>146529578
It kills your PvE WL ratio, if you care about that.
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>>146529704
What the fuck are you saying?
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>>146529704
We're talking about between bombs, fellow, and rather than give wins by bottlenecking if they take one site, I'd like to make both bombs more difficult to take by making more lines of sight the enemy has to watch for.
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>>146529805
Sorry. Misunderstood.

>>146530328
Oh, that makes a lot more sense. Just woke up a few minutes ago, but that's hardly an excuse for not thinking things through. My apologies.
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>Smoke is generated client side
I am a dumb boy, someone please explain it to me
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>>146531197
The smoke you see isn't the smoke the opponent sees, even if on your screen you're standing in the middle of a smoke grenade, you might be in the open on somebody elses.
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>>146531460
Thanks mate
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>>146518975
It's not like other players on your team took smoke grenades in the first place anyway.
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I never use twitch's marksman rifle (HK417)

Am I missing out?
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>>146532547
its good but f2 is better
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>>146532547
I rather enjoy it. Mileage may vary though.
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>>146532547
pretty good relative to all the other dmr's, but the f2 is so good it would be a shame not to run it.
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>>146460939
>>146461001
>BIDF
t. copper 1 players
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>>146460245
very strong and over powered are different things
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>>146533180
>>146533514
Exactly my thoughts

I would like to try it out but the F2 is just incredible
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>>146533757
I'm platinum
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>>146534117
it's not going to be as good, but it's fun
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>>146534117
just pretend to be glaz
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>>146534490
just play blackbeard, he feels like he gets more consistent 2 shot body shots with the sr-25, and gets to be invincible most the time.
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>>146534676
nigga we were talking about what guns to use for an op not op choices
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>>146534301
>>146534490
Yeah I think it'll be fun just for shits n giggles and a different playstyle

>>146534676
Thought about it but nah, I feel like the game would become boring with me just stomping on everyone in 1-2 shots behind an invincibility shield
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>>146533301
I love how the words of wisdom apply to the gameplay.
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All twenty original operators unlocked, ruining my chances of getting Poutine Buck. RIP.
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Is there a way to disable character animations? Kinda like playing doom or quake, where it's just a crosshair.
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>>146529578
oh does this actually work, i remember seeing on the steam forums this was gimped or something
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>>146535790
>Kinda like playing doom or quake
You could have just said like the older Rainbow Six games.
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Need opinions on this. It's something I'm working on, and I threw in this dialog for no real reason other than I felt like it. Still, I wanted to ask you guys if you think it's harmless enough to stay or I should avoid anime'ing my shit up. This is the only instance where it's non-English, but if it bothers you guys enough I can just change the dialog to something more appropriate.
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>>146536992
Doesn't matter either way, but what's the point of having it there anyway?
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>>146536992
Aaaand I just realized that webm isn't as smooth as my actual animation. Anybody know of a better webm converter? WebmForRetards keeps fucking up.

>>146537169
Short animation I'm doing like this one. In this scenario, someone comes up to Kapkan to show him something. I only added the dialog you've just seen because I've seen it being used quite a bit for shitposts, and I was bored enough to throw in it for a couple of frames. In comparison to the length of the whole animation, it doesn't take up much so I figured it doesn't change much so why not.
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>>146537391
https://firefogg.org/
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>>146507735
i had fun tho
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>here at Ubisoft we understand and sympathize with your inability to aim a weapon and your complete lack of brain cells and basic motor functions, that's why we made sure to include shotguns for you select group of retards!

>shotguns not enough? Still getting shit on by people who aren't escaped zoo attractions? Well, good news for you, because we here at Ubisoft are literal orangutans! That's why we added Blackbeard, an operator designed solely to punish good players and give YOU, the antagonists of Ape Escape, a level playing field.
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>>146539391
Stay bad.
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>>146539391
>i'm to good to kill this operator
You wanna know how dumb you sound?
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>>146540498
That's not what he said at all, he's basically saying that blackbeard breaks a core game mechanic that makes him way less likely to die than any other operator, which is true
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I can't wait to see the BR operators completely break what existing balance is left when they're released.
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>>146540961
What could be worse than fucking blackbeard's shield?
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>>146541210
Explosives and/or a lot of firepower.
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>>146541210
The devs will think of something.
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>>146540498
You can't deny the fact that Blackbeard is poorly designed. Prior to his release the whole game is balanced around headshots, you're expected to hold your crosshair at head level, when you peek you're peeking for headshots. Then Blackbeard comes along. You hear footsteps, peek with your weapon aimed where it has been since release, pull the trigger. Normally you just secured a kill, but haha jokes on you dumbass this is blackbeard with nothing but a shield leaning around a corner with his gun aimed at your head and there's nothing you can do about it
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what if the attack BR operator has an RPG? works like a nitro cell in that it's 1 hit kill except with a wider area of effect and it's an RPG so you can cross map with it. Comes with 2 shots, one chambered and one to reload
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>>146539391
You're absolute right, blackbeard takes a direct shit on the game design and should've been nerfed last patch.

It's a shame that ubisoft are jews.

>>146541210
A remote controlled armoured drone that's able to shoot bullets and tank C4/kapkans. I wouldn't put it past them.

>>146542460
If it had a small AoE and could break reinforcements, that would be pretty cool. He'd have to to have shitty guns or something though.
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>>146542460
I could see it working, maybe if the RPG had something like a 0.75 second dely on firing after you pull the trigger or something so you can't just peak and win fights with a 1hko thing, like how nitro's have a short delay before you toss it.
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>>146542460
Yeah that seems more OP than blackcuck's shield

You should get a job at ubisoft lad
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post BR op ideas

>attack
>>146542460
>hovering drones, drone that can fly for 10 seconds at a time on 2 second cooldown
>mobile explosive; C4 strapped to a drone, C4 slows drone down though so OPs can outrun it if they hear it coming, and it can't jump
>camera stick, can extend a pole on your weapon to use a camera around a corner and under/through barricaded doors and windows

defense
>medkit op, can heal teammates for 25 hp. has 4 charges, can use multiple charges on one team mate. takes 4 seconds to apply
>tripwire flashbang, enemy ops that walk through it get flashed and set off a loud bang that can be heard through 2 walls and floors/ceilings
>deployable shield with a square cut out of the top, mounted machinegun placed there. can only shoot in a cone in front of it
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>>146543870
JP extendokatana melee
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>>146543957
i've been trying to think of a way to make a katana viable and not stupid as fuck but there's honestly no reason for a katana to be in this game lol

all i can think of that would make a katana not completely useless is
>Katana OP can plunge his katana through non-reinforced walls to instakill operators directly on the other side
and even then that's pretty lame
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>play platinum ranked
>two people on my team fucking passout from drinking
>barely manage to win due to defenders all being roamer babies and not defending
>decide to go into casual
>secure on house in garage
>teammates don't fucking finish reinforcing the garage door
>even with this I manage to wipe out 4 of the enemies in a flank but ran out of ammo and died
>last guy on our team fucking runs straight at the last enemy who has clear sight of him and doesn't even shoot
>dies
>next defense round be only one actually defending the objective
>take one down then get down myself
>same guy from last defense round has amazing idea to shoot his shotgun on the wall i'm next to to revive me with his stim pistol
>kills me
>we lose the game
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>>146526728

I hope it's Bartlett but a rundown warehouse or slaughterhouse would be kickass as well
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So what ever happened to Ubi reducing the window bloom? Is there a setting I should change or something? Because this shit is just as blinding as before.
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>>146544913
Feels pretty bad when I can't find a good team to win consistently with in ranked

It just ends up being aimbotters vs shitters

Try casual: entire team just bought the game yesterday and don't even know how to reinforce walls or pick up rook's armor pack
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>>146545064
It seems to me that they didn't actually reduce the contrast outside of windows but rather made operators more visible. I still can't see shit outside of windows at certain angles but operators are more visible when they appear in them than they used to be
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How come I have almost 50 friend invites on uplay by the end of every week?
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>the flat huehue TV
>can be put on walls like breach charges
>reveals movement in the room on the other side
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>>146545730
Cause none of them have friends irl just like you
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>>146543870
>attack
Underbarrel grenade launcher
To make it not an Ash copy allow it to shoot flashbangs,smokes or regular frags.
>defense
Motion tracker
Pings enemies every 2ish seconds if they're in range
Ping doesn't say they've been spotted but it makes noise.
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>>146548158
>>attack
>Underbarrel grenade launcher
>To make it not an Ash copy allow it to shoot flashbangs,smokes or regular frags.

I actually was thinking of this exact idea

Motion tracker
Pings enemies every 2ish seconds if they're in range
Ping doesn't say they've been spotted but it makes noise

My friend had this exact idea too a few days ago

I wouldn't even be surprised if at least one of these is the new operator gadget
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>trying to peek into Border windows during daytime
can't see shit cap'n
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>tfw you're the designated rear guy while your entire team is focused on the front
>tfw you save your team from getting wiped by a lurk
>tfw they will probably never realize it
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When will Mute be fixed? I mean if it was old visual range and old jam range, I would be find. I played him a lot. But with new range and broken jam range I can't play him at all. How is this not a hot fix? ;_; I miss my mute. I can't bring myself to play him in this broken form. I rather play him in his old form instead.
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red hot oc created by me
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>>146550398

>not sticking by your man through better or worse

You disgust me
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>>146551748
But would Mute want to be played in his broken form? Or excel at his best? Do I bring to my team a man not fully realized? Is it not better to wait for him to emerge as a new man instead of being half finished? Did you not see the transformation that was Kapkan?
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is terrorist hunt realistic another way to get decent
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>>146551936
It's a good way to practice your aim and your reflexes but the best way to get decent is to just play more and try to analyze your mistakes and learn from them.

The reason terrorist hunt alone won't make you good is that humans behave much more differently and unpredictably than the AI in terrorist hunt.
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>buy Frost because I had 35k spare renown
>start liking her SMG but hate 1x sights
>try using her S90 and just wish I didn't have a spray and pray weapon
>get one trap down that actually majorly affects the game in three hours of play
>immediately regret purchase
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>>146551936
>>146552163
So I sometimes use TH to practice a new operator or try out a new configuration of attachments or learn a map better. The problem with TH is that you might be conditioned to shoot at any movement. The enemies don't look like multiplayer enemies. So you "forget" what they look like and learn to shoot at movement. Or generic human body shape. This might be a small problem where you might FF by spazing out and shooting anything that moves in the corner of your vision in a high tense situation. Now this has happened to me. It was a 2v2. I entered a window watching an angle where I knew where the enemy was most likely to come from. Then I see movement to my right and thought I fucked up where the enemy is. Blam insta headshot on ally. Rest of the story I kill one enemy but die to the last person. Another problem with TH is enemy placement. Realistically, real players will place themselves in tight angles and rarely ever place themselves in the open. And as the other poster said, real players are more eractic. They will sprint at odd angles and places for flanks and such while AI is set to "camp" a spot unless they notice you and decide to hunt you down.

You don't just learn by winning. You can learn by losing to an enemy also. I have learned many tactics from enemies that got the jump on me and etc. I don't go "FUCK THIS BULLSHIT", I go "hmm, how can I do this myself?"
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>>146552905
>You can learn by losing to an enemy also.

Addendum to what you said, losing allows you to learn even more than winning. You can win just by being lucky, getting carried by teammates or just facing very unskilled opponents. However when you lose, most of the time it means that you made a mistake. Losing gives us that valuable opportunity to find our weaknesses and identify the ways in which we need to improve our performance or tactics.

Of course you have those situations where you get killed because of the netcode, or they got lucky (this happens more often when playing a shield op), but most losses are definitely due to player error.
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I have a slight problem. I have all the operators and a lot of reknown. Over 120k. I don't care about skins and I don't really care about rank. I don't have the drive to play to gain something I guess. It is like when I played CoD:MW2. I spent time getting all the attachments, perks, and grinding for the upgraded perks. It was a drive and once I got it all, I lost that edge to play. I did not want to prestige cause all I would feel is lose and would have to start all over again. It is like you built a model ship. Once it was built you accomplished something so you just stop. You don't destroy it and start anew cause then in your heart you feel like you just wasted abunch of time to the end of the journey. Sorry for this blog post. It feels that sometimes I just go through the motions to play the game every once in awhile. That's why updates and the DLC revitalize me cause it is something new to do, learn, unlock and earn.
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>>146543870
i like flashbang, shield and cornercamera

I think it should be something like

attack
>something to count flankers like 1-2 devices you slap on a wall like kap traps that when triggerred let out a loud noise
>device or drone that makes loud noises to mask attacker business. Maybe portable, deployable mariachi band

defenders
>some ability to destroy unreiforced walls so defenders don't have to waste shotgun ammo/nitro
>drone for defenders
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>>146553120
this.
By almost losing and wasting 2 minutes of a round where kapkan placed the traps juust right in juuust the right places at juust the right angles so they couldn't be destroyed without operators dying made me learn a lot of old kapkan meta.
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>>146553254
I had the exact same experience with COD:MW 2 and I really loved that game

It's just natural to want to see the fruit of your labor, and when you no longer see the fruit, your drive to labor will cease.
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>>146553324
I have also implemented a similar tactic but this was not from losing but from my own experience. I would always take out a Kapkan trap, this was when the red bolt was visible. You see bolt on left side. Shift right of door and fire at trap. See it on right and shift left and take it out. When I did this every time, I thought to myself, how could I as Kapkan defeat such an easy tactic or use it against them? So I learned to place the traps on angles where if they do shift left or right, it would leave them in a bad position to get killed themselves.

Here is a shitty text diagram showing the angle of attack.
[Def Pos]
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[Atck Pos]
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>>146512405
>unload a full mp5 magazin onto a guy
>they all hit, blood everywhere
>he's full hp because he was rappeling with 350 ms of ping
>"bad aim"
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>>146553564
Shitty text diagram did not pan out. But I hope you get the idea.
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>>146551936
Doesnt really play anything like a multiplayer game, so i wouldnt say no unless you want to learn maps.
Just play multiplayer and dont be afraid to try new tactics. You can tell the shit players when every defence game they hide in the objective room because they are too afraid to do anything else.
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>>146553324
You're lucky to have had that loss, I still don't know how to place his traps effectively yet

I've gotten some kills and even a few double kills but I see some other kapkan players getting kills every round with the traps
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To new players, I made this spreadsheet with the help of past thread goers. It is not perfect and people might argue over things but I hope it can guide your way.

Role/Position: Where the operator is or acts when things start happening.
Attackers
Point Man- If you have one, they are the first ones that lead the charge. They usually have a shield to protect themselves and their team.
Entry Fragger- Second in line. They are the main attackers of the team. If there are no point men, they are the first in the attack.
Backliner- Usually in the back of the group, these operators hang back due to the nature and importance of their gadget. However once their gadget serves their purpose, they can move up with the entry fraggers.
Flanker- Usually with fast speed, flankers are operators who do not go with the main group. They take an alternate path to sneak up on the defending team.
Defenders
Pinpoint Defender- These operators strive by holding the objective.
Roamer- Usually with high speed and/or passive gadget. They roam around the map outside the objective to catch players who are along or to flank the main attacking team.
Both- Can either play as a Pinpoint Defender or Roamer.

Gadget Role: How the operator's gadget is used.
Breacher- Gadget that is used to break walls/barricades to get into the objective or open venues of attack
Sabotager- Gadget that is used to take out other enemy gadgets
Disrupter- Gadget that is used to displace or suppress the enemy team. If they do not change or hold positions, they are open to attack.
Intel- Gadget that is used to gain information on the battlefield.
Area Denial- Gadget that is used to deny or slow down movement of enemy operators.
Trapper- Gadget that is used to kill or incapacitate the enemy.
Support- Gadget that is used to help your ally operators.

Gadget Type:
Active: These gadgets need the operator to be alive to function.
Passive: Once placed, these gadgets function even when the operator dies.
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>>146553924
IDK if this can help people plan out and design their own special snowflake Operator. By seeing how each operator relates to each other and what their gadget brings, they can also try and skip overlaps.
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>>146553648
Yeah we get it, placing the trap in such a spot that the attacker has to put himself in your line of sight to destroy it, that way you can shoot the attacker.
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>>146554053
With the new Kapkan trap, I think this way of panning might go to the way side. I mean wasn't this plan made to counter the red bolt effect? Now that it is gone, I feel like you can set it and forget it.
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>i deranked from this game
that recruit was level 1. why does Ubisoft let shitters bring their mongoloid friends into ranked? so many garbage decisions made by jewbisoft.
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>>146555374
sledge, rather. He was playing recruit for the first half
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>>146555374
Isn't their a level cap before doing rank? I know for League of Legends you have to be level 30 to do rank.
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>>146555675
Minimum is 20, but if you have party up you can get level 1s in
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>>146550668
I chuckled.
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>>146555374
>guy with worst connection on their team has most kills
Weird how that works huh
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>>146555374
wait... dont tell me youre playing this on a console
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>>146556272
Why wouldn't I be? I play every other game on PC except for Halo because muh exclusive, CoD because I've always played that on console, Overwatch because that's a console shooter and Siege because it sucks dick on PC.

I've played Counter Strike and Quake both for 10 years now, don't even start this PC console bullshit, completely preferential in my case.
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>>146556423
>Overwatch because that's a console shooter

hahahahaha, wew lad you sure know what youre talking about
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>>146556528
Overwatch was literally designed with consoles in mind.

Beyond that, it's the most casual shooter on Earth. If you take it seriously enough to think playing on console takes away from any "skill" whatsoever you're a joke. Actually bought it on PC originally too and refunded it.
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>>146556638
the only joke here is you pretending you have ANY idea what youre talking about.

Enjoy your 30fps FPS game LMAO hahah
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>>146556528
Overwatch totally is a console/casual shooter anon.

I mean come on, the whole press X to win thing obviously meant for console.
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>>146557008
if youre on console then yeah, but all I have on X is "I need healing'.

Also, hows 30fps treating ya? Im playin gon stable 144 ;)
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>>146476382
Good thinking, Roach.
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>>146556995
Okay
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>>146557094
>being this retarded
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>>146531578
But that's what made it fun. It took teamwork. Should have just given her smokes and kept it. IQt would be perfect
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>>146553924
>>146553120
>>146552905
>>146551936
When I first made this chart I put Sledge as a Entry Fragger. Then someone on the thread said he should be a Flanker. At first I did not believe him. Then in a match I died to him. I was in the objective room and he smashed the floor above. Not the ceiling trap the floor. Then he shot me. Never thought of using Sledge as a vertical room flanker. He can do lateral but I learned new tech that day.
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>>146557143
nice argument
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>>146557591
>Never thought of using Sledge as a vertical room flanker
Dont they show him doing that in the trailers? Pretty sure thats what they intended you to use him for.
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