>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63
>DSCM - manually connect to specific players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvII-WJWo5s
>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>How to get autosummon covenants to work on PC:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119111456394/
>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3
>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/
>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg
reminder that bloodborne has its own general and doesn't belong here
>>146400320
Reposting:
>testing the length of UGS hitboxes vs their actual model
>Greatsword has the longest model
>but the hitbox only extends to the end of the flat part of the blade on most attacks
>Farron and Astora GS are tied for the longest hitboxes despite having different sized models
>Zweihander has the same range as the Greatsword, Profaned GS and BK UGS
>Lorians' GS has the same range as the Cathedral Knight GS and Lothric Knight GS, despite being the shortest model by a longshot
I didn't test the FUGS yet but I don't think there will be any surprises there.
Long story short, there are only 3 hitbox sizes for UGS attacks because they just copypasted hitbox data between the different weapons instead of sizing the hitbox dimensions to each weapon size. Some UGS gain extra range that extends beyond the tip of their weapon because of this, while others lose range and have an inert part of their model that the hitbox doesn't extend to. All these tests were conducted using the 1HR1. We started out testing every move in the moveset of each weapon but were finding really confusing outliers so we ditched that in favour of just testing the one attack consistent across all UGS movesets. Given our final data, were able to account for the outliers when we realized that some unique attacks had only 1 hitbox size that was copypasted between the weapons that use them. For example, the Zweihander's 2HR2 uses the same animation as the Astora Greatsword's 2H rolling attack and also uses the exact same hitbox, so on that one attack, the effective range extends notably beyond the end of the weapon.
It isn't like this for any weapon below ultra-size, which means that the dev team evidently placed such low priority in the design and balance of UGS that they just rushed through with a quick copy/paste job instead of putting proper work into their hitboxes.
REAL NEW THREAD HERE
>>146417136
>>146417136
>>146417136
>>146418872
This one was first.
Any tips for a sorcerer? I want to raise it to SL 60-80 mainly for invasions
>>146418748
Reminder you're a gigantic faggot
Is it possible to get all gestures in one NG? Primarily referring to Heysel, Yuria and Pale Shade and their interactions
>>146419041
No.
>>146418872
fuck off lucy
this was posted in the old thread over a minute before yours
>>146419005
fuck off lucy
>>146418909
>18:45
>other one is 18:27
>>146418872
That is the official fagcore thread.
Fags are to use that thread instead of this one.
All gwyndolin, lothric/lorian, 4kings, dragon, gargoyle, western art and tumblr posts are to go there.
Please do your part in keeping the proper /dsg/ thread fag-free by dumping your garbage in the official fagcore containment thread.
>>146419109
>this one was linked first
>>146419109
>18:27
>thread made 15 minutes before the thread hit bump limit
Fuck off lucy.
>>146419041
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4l9hob/psa_you_can_get_all_gestures_in_a_single_ng/
What's a good SL to stop at for DS3?
>>146418673
>proper op
AMEN
>>146419109
>making it way too early
Even more invalid
>Dead Again doesn't work on corpses if you're an invader unless the host is using a seed
why
>>146418865
Interesting
Nice work, although it's a bummer to know that even the hitboxes of the weapons themselves are identical
Makes me wish DS3 wasn't as rushed as it seemingly was,
>>146419442
SL120
hhhehheheh
>>146418865
I knew the Profaned GS hitbox was fucked up, especially since I've seen multiple cases where the tip of the weapon hits people with 2HR2s yet doesn't actually count as a hit. These hitboxes are just idiotic.
post them
>>146420025
>>146420025
.
>>146420025
>dueling pontiff with red hilt halberd build
>opponent using straight sword + pyro + full thorn armor
>keeps casting even though nothing ever touches me
>sips mana and keep casting
>keeps rolling away
>start using some sitting down gestures out of frustration
>keeps doing it anyway, rolling all over the place
>summon someone to show him even further that it's getting old
>end up killing him by starting to take voluntary hits
what the fuck is your strategy when this happens ? nothing gets me as mad as that
>>146420025
>some weapons, particularly ultras, become instantly techable after the 2nd R1 of a combo, often giving the person being hit a frame advantage as they recover faster than the person who hit them
>most weapons smaller that ultras are not instantly techable after the 2nd R1, and only reduce hitstun by a tiny, tiny amount, literally just enough to roll out before a 3rd hit connects and still usually leaving the person that was hit at a frame disadvantage.
Why do they continue to make stupid little mechanical bungles like this?
>>146420025
>>146420535
tahts why i dont summon mages anymore
yeah your blue shit is really cute and all but you will literally never hit me and its just a waste of time
>>146420827
Because this is not a PvP game
>>146420025
>>146420827
>and only reduce hitstun by a tiny, tiny amount, literally just enough to roll out before a 3rd hit connects
dont forget phantom range that actually forces you to roll back twice or get hit
>>146420935
>it's okay to have broken mechanics as long as we pretend we didn't care about the game
Nice!
fc w h e r e
Anyone wanna do Consumed King's garden with me on PS4?
pass is dsg place your signs right outside the doorway / before the stairs to the knight thats right out the elavator.
thanks
>>146421353
sign down
Just got parried by SoC for the first time and goddam
>>146421756
when does he parry?
tell me how to beat blighttown you niggers
>>146421980
find out if spider has puss puss
>>146421843
curved sword mode
he does it instantly even while stunned
it's kind of bullshit but at least it's rare
>>146421980
crystal shield and spider shield both 100% block poison and toxic, use them
>>146421980
Put moss up your butthole
>>146421843
He got me out of a fucking stunned state while he was using I think the curved sword
I was just beating the shit out of him and the next thing I know I'm 10 feet in the air hanging from his sword
>>146421843
When he goes full DaS PVP parody with the backflips, the curved swords and combustion. Even more amusing is that he's able to parry you while knocked down.
>>146418673
Man I miss the DaS2 arena
It was such a great casual filter. All the shitters were too afraid of arena tryhards and stayed at iron bridge so you rarely had to deal with them, and you'd get decent to good fights within seconds of tapping a statue, with only the rare or occasional garbage player that didn't belong there. If you wanted to learn how to use a new weapon or moveset, you could go there and have everyone you encountered pull all the counters on you until you knew exactly what do to.
Pontiff's is just like the iron bridge. Whatever decent players are there are such a tiny minority compared to the trash that they're completely drowned out. I can't even go there to learn how to use a weapon because I just end up spending 2 hours stuck in some tween's fightclub 2shotting idiots that walk into my weapon and forgot to level vigor, learning nothing except that R1 hardcounters stupidity.
>>146422401
The arenas were rife with both shitters and tryhards, don't delude yourself
>>146422401
lel, the arena was 99% garbage too
>>146422692
>>146422730
t. bridgeshitters
>>146422401
Then why go to pope instead of elsewhere?
Is there a /dsg/ approved streamer?
>>146422864
That doesn't even make sense. I played BoB arena extensively and everyone was either garbage or trying their damnedest to cheese ranks. When MLG prestige auras were on the line, some dudes spared no expense to win.
>>146420025
>>146422990
I like the PVP guy with the funny accent and the retarded laugh.
>>146422901
There is no elsewhere.
Red sign activity is 100% dead outside of pontiff's unless you get in on a private, passworded fightclub and those are usually only marginally better because they're namefag circlejerks and hugboxes.
>>146423068
>tfw easily kill Hodrick by spamming the 2h UGS lunge which stunlocks all dark spirits
i should make a video for all the people having difficulty or something
>>146423069
Gonna have to be more specific about which stupid faggot it is.
>>146423151
Highwall of lothric is the other PvP spot. Not as many signs as pontiff but you still don't really have to wait for a sign to show up
>>146423151
There are signs even at fucking anor londo bonfire, you just need to hunt for them.
>>146423203
>>146422990
dsp and enb.and no, the few who watch them don't take them seriously
>>146420935
It certainly isn't a good PvE game either
>>146423068
Hodrick posting
>>146423183
(You)
>>146423151
High Wall, Anor Londo Bonfire, I think I saw a couple in undead settlement too
>>146423183
You can easily kill him with anything unparryable. But where's the fun in that instead of trying to best the parry god in his own game?
do people swap to red tear stone in duels when their health is low? 20 percent attack boost is a fucking lot
>>146423413
I enjoyed DSP vs DaS2 because sometimes it broke without him doing anything
>>146422990
D_Invader
>>146423545
Is the Frigid Outskirts the first time a souls game has actually broken him and made him refuse to complete content?
>>146420025
>>146423654
Blighttown for a long while as well
Do you have to have 16 str to use MLGS's weapon art?
>>146423740
Or 12 while 2H
>>146422990
I'd be a /dsg/ approved streamer if I streamed.
The reason I never will is I have a shitty voice and its all people shit posted about when I used to stream years and years ago, and it wasn't much fun when people sit and hypothesize on your sex and age the entire time.
I have plenty of fun though and make myself laugh, I guess that's enough.
>>146423527
It's kinda tryhardy but doable. I don't care enough about success to do it.
>>146419442
125
>>146423434
aint easy
>>146423782
What do you do anon?
I'd watch silent streams.
>>146423782
I'd watch you even if you're silent
>>146419442
80 for strengths and weaknesses meta
120-800 for superman
>>146423781
Fuck.
I have 7 strengh.
I guess I can rebirth and sacrifice some HP
What went wrong?
>>146424162
Use the knight ring to get 12 without changing your stats
>>146419442
80 for nothing but quality and memers
120 for actual variety and viability for casters and interesting builds
>>146423434
why does that warrant giving me a (You)?
i don't understand
>>146424185
Weak PvP
>>146424196
you're a blessing anon, thanks
>>146420535
When I get that I literally just dance around them until they run out of focus.
Fucking retards.
>>146424185
bad pvp
no replay value
>>146424127
Lol, no. Level 80 is Quality only.
>>146424185
PVP is only entertaining if it's severely broken mechanically and statistically.
>>146424552post the picture about the broken straightswords
>>146424127
Having pvp'd extensively at 80, both duels and invasions, I think I'd advocate for 100 over 80.
The only reason I stay at 80 now is to avoid 120s since that meta is cancer, but 80 feels like it excessively limits builds that depend on more than one stat. My level 80 luck invader is basically a god because luck is so stat-efficient I can afford to gouge HP and stamina and still do tonnes of damage. Meanwhile my 80 pure strength build is forced to waste points in vitality just to hold his weapons, and as a result, has less HP and only 25 stamina, which in the language of ultra weapons is 2 swings and a roll followed by 5 seconds of passive backpedalling while I wait for stamina to regen enough to afford two swings again. Casters feel similarly limited since they need so many points in attunement on top of their offensive stat on top of still having str/dex to meet basic weapon requirements.
I think the extra 20 points going from 80 to 100 would really be of benefit to those sorts of builds.
It's a shame reddit got to pick the overleveled meta again because now we have to build around avoiding it or else deal with the DaS3 equivalent to BB's 150 builds or DaS1's 387 forest gankers.
>>146424582
then why isn't ds3 pvp the most populated?
>>146424626
This one?
>>146424127
strengths: quality without attunement
Weakness: anything else
>>146424185
The casuals beat their flavour of the month game, got their hardcore gamer cred XD with summons, and moved on. As with every single PC release Dark Souls.
>>146424126
>>146424061
I dunno, I think my reaction to the stupid shit I do is entertaining too.
It's finger runs, themed runs, cosplay runs, FC shenanigans. It's mostly just being silly, nothing impressive or skillful. I've already challenged myself by being all the bosses solo, I don't feel the need to do anything more than that.
Demon's Souls
>World/Character Tendency
>You are the boss
>First game in this series
Dark Souls
>Poise introduced
>Weapons and armors expanded greatly
>Covenants introduced
>Open world and cohesive
Dark Souls 2: SotFS
>Weapons and armors expanded the most in the series
>Dual Wielding added tremendous amount of combos
>Respec
>Poise Reworked, but viable, some even consider it to be the best version
>Covenants expanded
Bloodborne
>Victorian setting, and atmosphere
>Trick weapons
>Ability to turn pure physical weapons into pure elemental
>Chalice Dungeons
>Dash instead of rolls
>Regain mechanic
>Dark Souls 3
>weapon arts
>?
What unique things did Dark Souls 3 add?
>>146424720
savage
>>146424720
Because it's the first time PvP isn't a complete and utter joke.
>>146424793
Honestly, not a whole ton of innovation. I can appreciate it doing what the previous game did but just better, while stripping out all the half-baked garbage everyone hated from 2 (RIP power stancing though).
It added mad phantoms though, and that is enough for me.
>>146424720
Because everything is equally broken or worthless. In 1, things were broken in various ways.
Did From remove the two hit combo from Yhorm's?
So whats the order of most re playable souls/bb games?
I was thinking something along the line of
Ds1> DS2> BB> DES> DS3
Including expansions.
>>146424720
Because they broke everything in the host's advantage and the invader has fuckall fun and janky mechanics or interactions to use except obscuring ring + soul stream.
Plus, we haven't really discovered many meta-glitches that made DkS1 fun, like dead angling and backstab escapes.
>>146424793
You're forgetting about sexy dolls in BB.
Whew buddy.
When she cuddled me as a squid thing, I was heated.
>>146425168
DaS2 is the least replayable of the series because of respecs and soul memory
>>146424793
>atmosphere
>this is unique to bloodborne
you
what
mate
>>146425309
DeS did it first faggot.
>>146425073
>I can appreciate it doing what the previous game did but just better
>poise is worthless
>heavy armors worthless
>covenants trash
>world is the most linear in the series
>Vit as useless as resistance
>casters turned to shit
10/10 improvements
>>146424793
>Poise Reworked, but viable, some even consider it to be the best version
just you desperately trying to find positives in DaS2
>>146425463
Did you miss the part where that was a subordinate clause attached to "victorian"?
>>146425489
She didnt cuddle me as a squid thing.
>>146424793
>Moundmakers
>Unique Crossbolts
>Obscuring Ring
>Having a Crestfallen actually become undepressed and do something with his life
>Being able to jump off ladders?
>Being able to change your appearance in-game
>Ashtus
>Hollow Infusions
>>146425603
It's funny that he forgot about things like ascetics, the beginning of (failed) anti-twink measures, teleport from start and no limitations to infusions.
>>146425523
the only thing casters in DaS2 have over casters in DaS3 is homing great soul arrow, the rest is as bad or the same
and farron dart and flashsword make up for it
>>146425939
As much as people complain about soul memory, it was less bad than the abject abortion that was BB's multiplayer
>>146425523
Looking back with the benefit of the previous games having had literal years of balance patches, sure, faggot.
I'll give you poise being a huge step back but VIT is still more useful than resistance and less of a hideous tax than adaptability, though it'll immediately be more useful when/if armour is tweaked. Casters have been steadily getting small, incremental buffs at a time, as games should be adjusted, and should continue to improve.
Meanwhile it looks great for a change, plays smoothly designed for 60 FPS, controls the best in the series, is clearly the most polished and finished in terms of single player content, has the biggest arsenal of spells and various gimmick shit that will expand when it has DLCs, the music is still top shelf, a functioning way of blue + mad phantoms + functioning high activity territorial aldrich are great (though invading sucks shit due to balance), the combat is fast and fluid and rewarding to fuck things up in, and collection/management is the least tedious of all games so far, as well as the death mechanic striking a pretty good balance between 1 and 2.
It's a massively better basic platform to build off of than the previous games, with a couple of really annoying flaws that are sadly unlikely to go away, but overall solid, playable and easily improved by just plain adding more content and adjusting balance as time goes on.
is it just me or do clerics never really use bountiful/soothing sunlight?
>>146425647
>Victorian setting and atmosphere
>versus using the comma like in your post
>Victorian setting (pause) and atmosphere which more closely implies BB is the only atmospheric game
After killing Aldritch for Anri, it makes me wish that NPC's had dialogue for when you summoned them for specific bosses or at least did gestures
>>146426145
Not him, but you're trying to hard
>>146425785
Pretty much all of the NPCs have better developed arcs in general. They felt very fleshed out, save the Firekeeper for some reason.
You forgot reworked spell mechanics, weapon based matchmaking (RIP twinking but people being carried by phantoms with +15 gear was ridiculous), password matching to play with friends, gesture guidance in messages, easily swappable and convenient covenants, and double the number of endings.
>>146426131
They're both very bad.
>>146426010
Honestly, 3's system is likepy the best, weapon memory is perfect save for the fact you can't use bottomless box.
How do I make dude's skin blue? Trying to mess around in the creator, but it only changes the skin around his face, not even his whole head. I've seen other freaks with red or green skin, so there must be a secret technique.
>tfw apparently was in the wrong thread
>tfw fight clubs
>tfw post your fucking webms
>>146426648
I haven't tried it in DaS3, but this is how you did it in DaS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMQvg5WRIDg
>>146424793
>Ascetics, effigy burning
>Ability to be invaded areas with dead bosses, ability to be invaded while hollow, even when you have 5% max HP
>Introduced increased max invader and summon count
>Inability for summoned phantoms to heal while invaded
>Attunement stat increasing spell casts and cast speed
>Cast speed as a visible stat, in fact, much more visible stats in general
>Scaling being readily apparent
>Prevalence of gear with effects like backstab immunity, increased stats / casts, etc
>The first move you make speeds up the next one, like guard breaks speeding up the next attack
>2-hit max stunlock system
>Auras for high ranking covenant members
>Weapons and shields that cast spells
>Staves that cast multiple types, staves with different cast speeds, much more cast tool variety in general
>Every main stat increases several lesser stats, pure casters get less HP and phys def than STR or DEX builds but more element defense, and so on
Not even done, I could keep on going
Dark Souls 2 deserves more credit for innovation.
>>146426206
But they do. Tsorig will do my thanks fir every kill, and you have Gotthard, Shade and Heysel.
Still waiting for a Maldron tier NPC.
>>146426379
>password matching to play with friends, gesture guidance in messages,
That was also in bloodborne. But it's the only souls game with that so I'll give it a pass. Desu comparing souls to BB is a bit unfair. I definitely agree with you about the NPCs, Ludleth is my favorite by far once I exhausted his dialogue and read the skull ring. Poor guy
>>146426761
But it also deserves to be shat on for being fucking garbage
Is the heavy weapon R1-R1 combo very unreliable for anyone else?
>>146426780
>comparing souls to a souls game is unfair
What
>>146426379
Some NPCs were still quite bland, Karla, Cornix, Irina, Andre all could've done more. I didn't like some being so similar to others in quest mechanics, like Leonhard.
>>146424185
Despite it's mainstream success, the amount of people who actually really like Dark Souls enough to play it more than once is still relatively small
That and DS3 wasn't as great as it could have been
>>146426761
Ascetic farming was garbage and tedious and infinite ascetics was an unintentional exploit
Nobody was ever actually invaded hollow except once in a blue moon and it wasn't even fun for the invader
Most of that gear was added in DLCs
Dark Souls 3 essentially works on almost the exact same stunlock system
Auras were retarded and served no purpose except to make the arenas even more tryhard than they would have already been
There are weapons that cast spells
Main stats still increase specific defenses and resistances in 3
The rest are valid.
Credit for "innovation" only goes so far when half the shit it "innovated" was a fucking horrible idea that we're all glad is gone, such as:
SOUL MEMORY
Despawning enemies (and having sets drop only from them)
Cracked orbs only
ADAPTABILITY
Slow estus recovery (essentially providing immunity to estus punishing)
Lifegems making estus irrelevant in singleplayer anyways
Caster grass
Some of the shittiest "unique" bosses/areas of all time (the gank squad, reindeer valley, etc.)
SOUL
MEMORY
Not even done, I could keep on going
>>146425983
>Soul Shower
>Soul Vortex setup with anything
>Dark Hail headshot / Climax nuke after a parry
>Unlocked Dark Fog
>Scraps of Life
>Dance of Fire
>Outcry
>Heavenly Thunder
You're Nikolai, aren't you
Stop posting about games you didn't master
There's good reasons people black crystalled when running into mages in arenas, they're damn effective and frustrating to take down
>>146427018
If you trade with the R1 of a hyperarmor ultraweapon, the 2nd hit will consistently fail to combo.
Also, most Greataxes can't combo their 2HR1s under normal circumstances. Only the Greataxe and BKGA can. All others allow the enemy to roll after only 1 2HR1 unless there's enough latency involved.
>>146427063
They're very similiar, but the core gameplay and balancing are very different. So let me correct myself, in those situations it is unfair to compare the 2 series
>>146427063
Memezaki was the one who came up with those in Bloodborne and then ported them over to 3. For all intents and purposes, it is innovating the Dark Souls series.
>>146427090
Karla and Cornix were admittedly kinda low key, but despite having little interaction were pretty memorable for what they had to say, Karla moreso than Cornix.
Irina is kind of a package deal with Eygon, and the two of them and their optional paths + technology gauntlets are really cool.
Andre is already from another game. He kind of has half his characterization already.
>90% of Ds1 players are using BK halberd or Gravelord Sword
Oh gee I wonder how all these Ds3 players all just coincidentally happened to stumble upon these two weapons
>>146427294
I'm trading with straight sword and katana r1s, greataxes and great hammers both fail to combo.
>>146427409
>>146427381
If the game was called Blood Souls no one be trying to split them as two different things
>>146426098
>plays smoothly designed for 60 FPS
DaS2
>controls the best in the series
Bloodborne, because its the same engine but no quicksteps
>is clearly the most polished and finished in terms of single player content
What you meant to say "most linear and shortest"
>has the biggest arsenal of spells and various gimmick shit
Copy pasted spells from previous games, with barely anything unique to Dark Souls 3 itself, and the spells themselves mostly garbage
>the music is still top shelf
Wow surely setting standards here
> a functioning way of blue + mad phantoms + functioning high activity territorial aldrich are great
DaS2 did it already and did it better
> the combat is fast and fluid and rewarding to fuck things up in
Nice straightsword cookiecutter build
>and collection/management is the least tedious of all games so far
Collecting those concords must have been fun.
>DaS3babbies
>Delusional DaS3 babbies
>>146427197
>Ascetic farming was garbage
?
Invade in the Abyss.
>infinite ascetics was an unintentional exploit
No, see above.
>Nobody was ever actually invaded hollow except once in a blue moon and it wasn't even fun for the invader
That is plainly not true. There was no matchmaking against invading hollow players. I often brought Soul Appease at low levels to nuke unsuspecting hollow hosts.
At least 70% of my invades were hollow.
>Most of that gear was added in DLCs
Jester's, Black Hood, Hexer's Hood, Ladle, Work Hook, etc.
>served no purpose
Auras were the sign of a tryhard or a genuinely good player, a sign that you should take them seriously. They also showed up in the Abyss.
>Dark Souls 3 essentially works on almost the exact same stunlock system
>There are weapons that cast spells
>Main stats still increase specific defenses and resistances in 3
And? Does it deserve credit for it when it did not introduce these? Did you think I was only listing improvements exclusive to 2? Don't be stupid.
>Caster grass
Not only was it a better system than spice, it was rarer than spice, less abusable than spice.
>Lifegems making estus irrelevant in singleplayer anyways
They're a supplement. Babby lifegems are merely there for the start of the game and minor hits.
Lifegems are a good thing in Dark Souls 2 due to how the game works with the length of the levels, amount of enemies, limited estus.
>>146427739
They don't think it be like it is but it do. Pay attention to them no
>>146427218
>You're Nikolai
literally who? also
>muh combos that worked once every month
>Soul Shower
useless
>Soul Vortex setup with anything
useless smokescreen and backstab bait
>Dark Hail headshot / Climax nuke after a parry
you can do the same with a CSS in DaS3, DaS1 had dark bead so it's not like it's a novelty
>Unlocked Dark Fog
became useless after the bat staff nerf
>Scraps of Life
I can give you that, one of the rare useful spells for setting up another one/a heal
>Dance of Fire
backstab bait
>Outcry
only good on knocked down opponents
>Heavenly Thunder
RNG, as good as pillars of light in DaS3, so shit
so basically 1 and half good spells
people black crystalled when running into mages because it was ALWAYS the same fucking game of cat and mouse, and it was tedious
>Stop posting about games you didn't master
lol, like there was anything to master
>>146427551
That's what I meant.
Any ultra weapon that's hit during startup hyperarmor will not be able to combo from that hit. You can still combo if it's late in the hyperarmor, but a startup-trade will break your combo even though you don't stagger
>>146427409
The thing is, there's the Coculus summon in ODK which Cornyx never talked about, and you get Karla so late she barely does anything.
My biggest grip with Irina is she becoming a firekeeper and saying absolutely nothing after it and I wish Andre was explained.
Also bothers me that unlike past games NPCs most lack bonus lines. Only fucking Patches has lines if you don't buy anything or walk while in the screen, others act like nothing happened, and I think only Orbeck shows a big attitude change as you buy things.
>>146427936
Post your game hours of DaS2
>>146428134
>playing the shittiest game in the series
lol fag
>>146428134
I don't play on peecee
>>146427218
>all but one patched to be viable or not-broken
>>146427936
I think he means this dude
>>146428181
As expected, another retard spouting shit about a game he never played.
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>>146427936
>dance of fire is backstab bait
Holy shit, stop posting. You're just embarrassing yourself here.
>>146428271
I could spit shit about Ds2 all day that game fucking sux
>>146428243
Post PSN/XBL acc name or screenshot
>>146427847
>DaS2
>designed for 60 FPS
How's that durability glitch?
>>146428427
Fixed centuries ago
>>146428556
>he thinks it's fixed
>>146428556
I'm not sure you're grasping the thrust of the point.
I'm glad anons here are finally seeing how good DaS2 was and how garbage DaS3 actually is.
Biggest factor is replayability, DaS2 did NG+ right.
>>146428738
>half a dozen red phantoms in the first third of the game
>players segregated into the NG+ pool
Yeah, sure was.
>>146428643
>being retarded
>>146428279
it is, faggot but since you've played baddies in the arena they never punished you for using it
even jester weares you could just roll though the spell and poke them for free damage
>but muh mindgames with firestorm
doesn't mean shit to me when I can just interrupt you with a rollpoke
>>146427936
>nuh uh no its shit its shit
DaS3 babbies everyone
Soul Shower forced people to run away. It had stellar tracking, a quick cast, high poise damage, good damage. It was great.
You're not rolling through a Soul Vortex setup with Affinity / HCSM + CSS. That's a good way to die in two seconds.
Parries in DaS3 aren't fast enough to hit a CSS with, feel free to prove me wrong.
CSS also doesn't deal 2~4k damage like Dark Hail / Climax do, without hypermode, without the candlestick, without dusk crown, without your two mandatory rings.
Dark Fog is ridiculous in 2. You predict a roll, fog the guy, fog again, he's poisoned. 1050 damage from allowing the poison or he mosses and eats a nuke of your choice.
You could just spam Dark Fog and it would poison people even without aiming it.
If you're getting backstabbed for Dance of Fire you're clinically retarded. It's a fixed range spell and a setup for other pyros.
Outcry is good in general. Super fast recovery, extreme area of effect, hits through rolls, high damage. It's the best pyromancy and probably the best spell in the game.
Pillars of Light doesn't even come close to Heavenly Thunder, you're not even trying. Heavenly Thunder does five times the damage, casts near instantly, doesn't root you, lasts longer, hits multiple times.
>>146428252
Sounds like DaS3's great farron dart and flashsword. DaS3 isn't there yet. Maybe one day.
>>146428931
You and your one friend can stop posting now. A hundred threads is enough. The joke is getting old.
>>146428738
Apart from lmao2cat was there any part in DaS2 where you actually went 'oh fuck this part again, im gonna get absolutely buttblasted, fuckfuckfuck'?
In both DaS1 and 3 there were some parts/enemies that made you go this way but Das2 was as bland as it goes in this aspect.
Even in ng+
>people letting Delusional DaS2 Defender babbies out of their cages again
if I transfer a save from another account to my main account will I get bunned if I had more progress on my alt?
How's the mace's moveset and damage in PvP? It's a lot more aggressive looking this time around, I kinda like it. Also, preserverance seems like a nice boost. I'm wondering, with the proper attunement, if it would be at all possible to just spam it a lot to get small bouts of poise during trades.
>>146429014
>DaS3babbies in charge of arguing
>>146428556
They never fixed it, they just made it so hitting corpses doesn't reduce durability.
>>146429014
Nice argument, fagola.
Your revisionism will never work.
>>146429198
>>146429140
Point instantly proven.
friend's going to buy DS3 soon and i'm kind of struggling on what to play; i've already played your average 40/40 build and a faith build, so the rest comes down to either going for a katana weeaboo build, a pyro build or a sorcerer build
would appreciate any and all suggestionsis immolation tinder viable for pyro builds? because i might just end up going for that if that is the case
all I have to do to prove that DaS2's PvP is shit is to pull the steam numbers
>>146429163
They fixed the double durability drain caused by 60 FPS
They fixed the corpse drain bug
Why do you think Santier's takes an eternity to break now?
You just don't remember how bad durability was during pre-patch at 60 FPS
Durability is currently the same on PC as on PS3/4/360/X1
It's not bugged, it's intended
>>146429198
>DaS2 being objectively shit until the end of its lifecycle (already far too late) is revisionism
DELUSIONAL
Patricians know DaS2 was secretly the best. Nu-males cling to the Unused Bloodborne Assets 3
>>146429316
>lying
>>146429314
That would be cruel, let them live in their delusion.
>>146429314
>das2 has half the players as das3
>has been out for years
how about that 7k players after two months
real shameful
>>146428931
>Pillars of Light doesn't even come close to Heavenly Thunder, you're not even trying. Heavenly Thunder does five times the damage, casts near instantly, doesn't root you, lasts longer, hits multiple times.
IT'S
NOT
FAIR
>>146420145
Why does your autism command you post this in every thread
PSA:
For anybody that's been living under a rock and still doesn't know, the DaS3 roll doesn't start it's iframes on frame 0 like previous games. There's a very small window during the startup of a roll where you can take damage as normal, unlike DaS1 and 2 where rolling iframes began on the first frame of the roll.
What does this mean? It means that delaying rolls until the last second is bad, and you should always aim to roll early and mash rolls rather than try to react precisely to your enemy's attacks.
>>146429473
how about 1k less than dark souls 1 when it had two releases?
>>146429575
haaalberdddssss
>>146429621
>globalmeme start day
>>146429621
plebbit had this little event, you might have heard of it
>>146429672
>i-it's because of that event nobody gave a fuck about
look at the 30 days averages, dumbfuck
"Dark Souls 3 was a mistake." - Miyazaki
>>146429575
Isn't this a glitch caused by latency? Does this happen in PvE as well?
>>146429672
>thinking people went back because of the event, not preference
It's the opposite. People left because there wasn't enough activity. With the new mods and guaranteed online players, there is no reason to play anything else
>>146429575
source?
>>146424503
t. Shitter
Can't really argue the replay value
>>146429801
it's not like a widespread community event revitalized interest in das1 or anything
DaS2 SotFS is $14. I played DaS2 on console for a while. Is PC online still lively?
>>146429313
Play something shit on purpose so you don't carry him so hard his balls shrivel up.
>>146429473
>what is people playing Dark Souls 3 first and then the other games in the series
>what is Dark Souls 2 having more content to get through after three expansions
>what is Dark Souls 3 having essentially the same number of serious fans as the previous two games that hasn't grown much while getting most of its sales from the enormous influx of one and done casuals that flock to OMG SO HARD after it became a yearly release asscreed series
>what is PvP being better balanced after several years so the diehard duelists are going back
They're sure as fuck not there to play the game through again.
>>146430398
>still
>denying
>the
>facts
After the DLCs were done and buried DaS1 had more players than 2, plain and simple
>>146430441No_
>>146430441
yeah
>>146430524
did you forget that there was more than 1 back to das1 event
also nah you're the one denying the facts lad, das1 and das2 were equal for a while then das2 lead for a long time, split between vanilla and scholar
>>146430398
it's been like that for almost a year now, retard
>put sign down on the high wall for low level coop
>realize very quickly how terrible casual players are
>put on rags and worst weapon on so I don't carry them too much
>end up still blasting through enemies way before the host even reaches me without taking damage
>>146430669
> split between vanilla and scholar
This should also be considered. Scholar has less players than DaS1, but Scholar + Vanilla has always had more players combined.
>>146429313
Immolation Tinder is a sorcerer's weapon, not a pyromancer's.
easiest way to cheese dancer now?
Which game is worse after the first playthrough (excluding pvp)
BB or DS3.
>>146430796
You could try this instead
>boot up the collector's edition
>equip untrue ring
>get summoned for coop
>if the host is shit then switch factions to invader and fuck him up
>if he summons help, switch back and act like nothing is wrong
>then switch again to backstab if he goes for the black crystal, otherwise switch back later to kill the clueless phantom
>>146430891
>Scholar has less players than DaS1, but Scholar + Vanilla has always had more players combined.
lol, except no?
http://steamcharts.com/search/?q=dark+souls
that's why nobody take you DaS2babbies seriously
What's the best light armor for SL20?
Huh... bombs apparently can do counterhit damage...
Learn something new everyday I suppose.
>>146431086
ds3
>>146431162
Isn't that instability damage?
Man, it's hard to tell which enemy in Dark Souls 3 is the worst enemy in the entire series because there are so fucking many candidates.
Does anyone on PS4 have some free time to be a mule? I can repay by muling myself or with weapons.
>>146428427
Did they ever fix that? It was annoying losing 7+ durability because I hit an already dead opponent with my halberd.
>>146431245
Maybe, idk what you call it, I was just surprised to hear the "thud" sound and have the bomb do like 100 more damage or so. Also that jumping attack from a mile away was pretty funny.
>>146431086
ds3
Adding an expansion will just make another chore to get to end game.
>>146431318
Lothric Knights because their shields make me look like a little baby when I hold them
>>146431392
Instability damage is taken during jump attacks and while running. Counter damage is done by thrust damage during attacks.
>>146431318
Really? I found the enemy selection in 3 to be incredibly less annoying than 2 (though much better when you fix poise, otherwise the dogs are complete faggots).
I mostly just find the maggot things annoying as fuck for having to switch to a torch if you get hit, the jailers kind of obnoxious to deal with though not a huge deal since the dungeon is so short and light on your estus, and the FUCKING FAGGOT GREATSWORD CATHEDRAL KNIGHTS HOLY SHIT STOP SWINGING THAT GIANT PIECE OF SHIT FOR LIKE TWO FUCKING SECONDS.
>>146431515
that one blue knight in front of oceirus is the bane of low level runs
>>146431318
I agree
>>146431471
I feel like it gets taken during the non-invincible part of rolls too. I've had that thud happen to me in PvE when rolling once or twice and it fucked me up right good. It also happens when you attack something while guard broken instead of riposting, or enemies/bosses in similar states. It's basically whenever you don't have your feet properly rooted and stance squared really.
>>146431434
Lothric Knights are a candidate for one of the best enemies.
I mean the pure garbage like Pus of Man, Corvians, Pus of Man (inside the dragon), and just everything that NEVER STOPS SWINGING (cathedral knights, workers, thralls, Pus of Man, Corvians, etc)
>>146431357
I can help. What's the password and location?
>hyperarmor weapons still get the thrust damage penalty during their hyperarmor
This game's mechanics were really poorly thought out.
>>146431672
Great, let's meet at the cleansing chapel bonfire in cathedral of the deep.
Password : dragon
>>146431086
I dropped DS3 completely a week ago. I still do chalice dungeons to this day.
>>146431471
Counter damage is a catch-all term for increased damage taken while performing an action. It's not specific to thrusting.
>>146431471
Yeah, just a terminology misunderstanding. That said I honestly thought consumables like bombs/daggers just did a flat (based on scaling of course) amount of damage if they landed, I didn't think they actually were affected by those special circumstances like instability for increased damage. Pretty neat.
>>146431659
>workers
>thralls
>corvians
>never stop swinging
???
Admittedly corvians can get a little spammy if you let them, but they're wicked cool and easy to kill during their transformation. I've never really had much trouble with them.
Again though, pretty much every enemy people universally hate is instantly much less aggravating when you turn poise back on.
Seriously. Done the whole game like that. You can just slap corvians in the middle of their knife spazzouts.
>>146431063
Dancer Skip
>>146431318
I'd say the the greatsword-wielding Lothric Knights and the greatsword-wielding Cathedral Knights are the most bullshit enemies. They never stop attacking and are irritating as hell to fight.
>>146426648
Base skin color straight up gives you RGB sliders
Nameless King vs Any boss from Dark Souls 1-3.
Which bosses stand a chance and why?
Will accept both crunch and fluff reasoning.
>>146431318
Chain Axe niggers are worse than BB's Winter Lanterns, DaS2's Drakeknights, DaS's toxic blowdart, and DeS's bellringers.
>>146431318
Dogs
>>146432047
fume knight would destroy him, almost complete elemental immunity, far more poise, hits harder and more frequently
>>146432047
Yhorm, Vendrick and Ancient dragon wins everytime due to inflated healthpool/defenses. Bed of Chaos is impossible to win against because the other bosses can't fit inside.
>>146431854
The last two playthroughs I've done of undead settlement every single fucking plow worker has spammed their raking combo.
Thralls too. Unending mashing combos. Corvians never stop if you don't mash their shit in. I hate their screaming and sound effects so much.
>>146432049
Goddamn, I forgot the chain axe cunts. Someone post the webm.
>>146432103
Thankfully dogs even with their new Goku bullshit are STILL not as bad as the FRC Hellhounds.
>Every humanoid enemy is three feet taller than you for whatever reason
Okay, standard for Dark Souls.
>Hawkwood was part of the Legion
>Who are all three feet taller than you
>Except him
Okay what the fuck.
Do you just get a pair of stilts when you join? Did he abandon them because he was a midget? What the fuck is going on here?
>>146431659
I liked the idea behind pus of man, the fire weakness, I mean.
