>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D
Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC
>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php
>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png
>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n
>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU
>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy
>Previous thread
>>145874503
Claiming this thread for the most handsome and trustworthy angel.
Lawtists get out.
>>146295817
>>146295725
>>146295668
>Implying I accidentally took the law route and didn't realise it was a he until later
>>146294191
>No, the issue is you being a whiny faggot. You complain about "shitty game design" because there's an intended risk for being a neutral player which not only does at least somewhat lessen the neutral pandering but also makes a lot sense in the game world.
Glad to see this general is likely filled with delusional retards.
"Intended risk". Don't be fucking stupid, it makes no sense. It's not an intended risk, the developers just never give you an option to be neutral when making choices. It's always just "yes" or "no". These decisions put you more towards chaos or law, and you are obviously meant to balance these. That's how the game is intended to be played - you are between chaos and law if you are neutral.
In this instance, you do not have a choice to stay neutral. The game forces you to go chaos or law for this section. You say
>Nowhere in the game is mentioned that it has the obligation to kiss your ass when you're neutral.
but neither does it mention it's going to blatantly punish you for it either. If it was an unintentional oversight it would at least be understandable, but potentially stopping you from being able to use an entire party of demons that you had been using a moment before, without warning, is pure shit design.
>only play the new ones where they pander to guys like you.
You say this when I am what, at least halfway through the game? It's funny how I'm pointing out a shit design in one particular area and you're telling me the games aren't for me.
Not being able to use certain demons when law and chaos is fine, I wouldn't even mind if limited the demons you could use when neutral as well. But when you are not given warning, are forced into law or chaos, and have no way of accessing a Cathedral of Shadows, the developers clearly made a bad design choice.
>>146295849
So I just beat Asura in Strange Journey
I've been neutral up to this point but now I'm chaos
How much more time and choices are there before alignment lock that I might still be able to change?
>>146297109
>>146296204
>>146295817
>>146295725
>>146295668
>>146296957
>>146296549
>>146296390
>law in 2016
>not being neutral or chaos
With Jews, you lose
>>146296939
There's still plenty of chances, don't worry.
You can also do the Pixie request to change, I think.
Mastema did nothing wrong.
Mastema is truly the greatest.
Mastema is a little bitch.
Hoy.
>>146296337
>"Intended risk". Don't be fucking stupid, it makes no sense. It's not an intended risk, the developers just never give you an option to be neutral when making choices. It's always just "yes" or "no". These decisions put you more towards chaos or law, and you are obviously meant to balance these. That's how the game is intended to be played - you are between chaos and law if you are neutral.
Do you even read your own post? You claim it makes no sense and proceed to explain why it does. Like you say balancing these extremes is what makes you neutral, so tipping that balance off from time to time is to be entirely expected and, yes. intended. If it wasn't they would give you the neutral options.
>but potentially stopping you from being able to use an entire party of demons that you had been using a moment before, without warning, is pure shit design.
Again, running around with a full Chaos party while being Neutral, pissing on their leader and then wondering why the Chaos party refuses to follow your orders is not surprising at all.
Having a party with a completely different alignment than you is your own fault. You should use mostly Neutral demons with a few others, if you don't want to worry about alignments.
Also the game does give you a warning right from the beginning though. Holding the balance is difficult shit.
You made a mistake and you're blaming the game designers even though the system is completely logical from gameplay and story perspective. Just suck it up, dude.
>>146300074
>Do you even read your own post? You claim it makes no sense and proceed to explain why it does. Like you say balancing these extremes is what makes you neutral, so tipping that balance off from time to time is to be entirely expected and, yes. intended. If it wasn't they would give you the neutral options.
Yes - and if you read what I posted, you would know I'm clearly pointing out why that system doesn't work at that part of the game. You're forced into chaos or law with no warning and no way to recover until after a boss fight and random encounters.
If there was a teleporter or a cathedral of shadows there would be no problem - because there isn't, you can easily be fucked over.
>Again, running around with a full Chaos party while being Neutral, pissing on their leader and then wondering why the Chaos party refuses to follow your orders is not surprising at all.
>Having a party with a completely different alignment than you is your own fault. You should use mostly Neutral demons with a few others, if you don't want to worry about alignments.
>Also the game does give you a warning right from the beginning though. Holding the balance is difficult shit.
Why should you have mostly neutral demons? The game gives you no reason to only have neutral demons until it fucks you over. The alignment spike that comes without warning doesn't have to be bad - it's then having no way to sort your party out because there's no teleporter and no cathedral of shadows.
I couldn't care less I'm now law. There are plenty of ways to go back down to neutral, I am only complaining about this one specific scenario.
>You made a mistake and you're blaming the game designers even though the system is completely logical from gameplay and story perspective. Just suck it up, dude.
See everything above
>>146296337
>In this instance, you do not have a choice to stay neutral.
From a story perspective, it makes a lot of sense that those who have the more extreme beliefs do not tolerate the indecision of others, especially if they could be an useful ally. You're either with them, or against them. So, a `neutral' option would also indicate that you are not with chaos and would only give yourself the illusion of neutrality. This is, I think, actual bad design.
Of course, this does not mean the game has to lock you up for making an inconvenient choice, but there are other ways to prevent that.
Where do you find the Fire Seal in Megami Tensei II? I've beaten Nebrios and explored pretty much everywhere.
>>146301165
>Yes - and if you read what I posted, you would know I'm clearly pointing out why that system doesn't work at that part of the game. You're forced into chaos or law with no warning and no way to recover until after a boss fight and random encounters.
>If there was a teleporter or a cathedral of shadows there would be no problem - because there isn't, you can easily be fucked over.
This isn't even a fucking issue. The game is so easy, you rarely need demons aside from boss fights. And at that point, the boss fight you're "forced" to fight after the alignment shift is easy as fuck (intentionally).
>>146301785
But I've already said I thought the boss was piss, I didn't struggle or anything. Being easy doens't take away form how poorly designed it is though.
>>146301491
>From a story perspective, it makes a lot of sense that those who have the more extreme beliefs do not tolerate the indecision of others, especially if they could be an useful ally.
I agree 100% I really like all the choices you're making in SMT I for your alignment, it's actually pretty fun. This decision is no different. What is different is that here is no teleporter or cathedral of shadows.
My alignment has changed occasionally so far during the game, and I've been locked out of using certain demons during these times. It's an inconvenience, but I have no issue with it. There is no way out of this situation however, because of the lack of teleporter and CoS, so it could just fuck people over massively. The fact that the boss is piss is very much irrelevant.
>>146301165
>Yes - and if you read what I posted, you would know I'm clearly pointing out why that system doesn't work at that part of the game. You're forced into chaos or law with no warning and no way to recover until after a boss fight and random encounters.
See
>Like you say balancing these extremes is what makes you neutral, so tipping that balance off from time to time is to be entirely expected and, yes. intended. If it wasn't they would give you the neutral options.
>Why should you have mostly neutral demons?
>The alignment spike that comes without warning
See
>Again, running around with a full Chaos party while being Neutral, pissing on their leader and then wondering why the Chaos party refuses to follow your orders is not surprising at all.
>>146302572
>My alignment has changed occasionally so far during the game, and I've been locked out of using certain demons during these times. It's an inconvenience, but I have no issue with it.
And those alignment changes don't count as warnings because ...[?]
>>146302572
>so it could just fuck people over massively
No it can't anon. It's why the boss was so easy. So they couldn't get fucked over.
>>146302662
You do not know you are going to be pissing off a chaos demon until you are forced into the situation. There is no way to prepare for it, unless you were playing differently. Since the game gave you no reason to not play with a lot of chaos demons up to this point, why would you have done anything differently?
And again - TELEPORTER or CoS would FIX the situation. I have no issue with your alignment changing.
GUYS WHY YOU LIED TO ME?
PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE GAME IS ACTUALLY GREAT WERE YOU ALL MEMEING ME OR WHAT?!!
>>146302838
My alignment changed because I went one too many chaos. Not "I am borderline chaos, but this one decision will make me law."
>>146302918
But that's irrelevant, not to mention just your speculation.
>>146303353
>Polygon
>>146303575
>meaningless green text
>>146303170
>You do not know you are going to be pissing off a chaos demon until you are forced into the situation
Yes, it's very surprising that going against the leader of the chaos faction pisses off chaos demons. Could've never seen that one coming.
>There is no way to prepare for it, unless you were playing differently.
>There is no way to prepare for it, unless you prepare for it.
流石
>Since the game gave you no reason to not play with a lot of chaos demons up to this point, why would you have done anything differently?
>My alignment has changed occasionally so far during the game, and I've been locked out of using certain demons during these times.
A lot games in this series don't warn you off the weaknesses of bosses before their fights and you're forced to adjust your party to challenge that. With your reasoning that's shit game design.
I recommend playing another franchise.
>>146298086
ngl i'd let zelenin dom me
>>146301736
IIRC, you need to visit the Terminal near Hotel Princess and then go back to Hiroko's room at the Shelter.
>Maya boss in SJ
whose idea was this
>>146303913
>Yes, it's very surprising that going against the leader of the chaos faction pisses off chaos demons. Could've never seen that one coming.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW YOU ARE GOING AGAINST THEM BECAUSE THE SITUATION COMES OUT OF NOWHERE YOU DENSE MOUTH BREATHER.
Have you even played SMT I? You step out expecting to start a dungeon, instead you are arrested and brought to the chaos leader directly. There is no hint, no foreshadowing, nothing.
>>146303913
>A lot games in this series don't warn you off the weaknesses of bosses before their fights and you're forced to adjust your party to challenge that. With your reasoning that's shit game design.
>I recommend playing another franchise.
Yes - but at least you CAN adjust when you don't have a good party for a boss. There is NO WAY to adjust your party in this scenario. Why? Because there are no fucking teleporters nor a CoS to use to adjust your party. Is /smtg/ normally filled with retards, or did I choose a bad day to come here?
Why would I play a different franchise. Because I think 15 minutes of one game in the franchise was poorly designed? You must be trolling me, you can't honestly be serious.
>>146303353
>>146303575
85% on Metacritic ain't bad. I'm excited to pick up my copy on Friday.
>>146303353
>Reviews matter
If you want the game, get it you fucking faggot. Stop trying to shitpost with meaningless things like >Polygon reviews.
>>146305867
Yeah and 85% on Metacritic is better than what Nocturne, Strange Journey and SMT IV got.
>>146306113
>being this buttblasted over good things
When did you guys outgrow megaten games?
I did it after my 18th birthday and my life literally did a 360° turn afterwards.
>tfw writting this from my $5K phone while my gf gives me a bj
>>146297309
>neutralfags
>>146303353
>>146305867
>>146306765
Hello Nintendo of America
>Participate in the new /smtg/ sings
>it was proposed like 2 months ago
Maybe it's time to close this chapter. And either release what was done or admit its failure.
>>146307172
>nonwhitefags
>>146306113
Polygon is only good review site out there there though. The most honest for sure. Witcher 3 was shit, just as they said, and DaS3 was underwhelming. They should've give a lower score to MGSV tho.
>>146307473
The White were right.
>>146307718
>Polygon is only good review site out there there
> anime
shit game
![[Hiryuu] Shimoneta to Iu Gainen ga Sonzai Shinai Taikutsu na Sekai - 04 [720p H264 AAC][E57EEEFE].mkv_snapshot_22.35_[2015.09.26_18.45.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zEjI170.jpg "[Hiryuu] Shimoneta to Iu Gainen ga Sonzai Shinai Taikutsu na Sekai - 04 [720p H264 AAC][E57EEEFE].mkv_snapshot_22.35_[2015.09.26_18.45.34].jpg")
>>146307718
Too soon.
>/v/ starting to leak into the general because of reviews
See you guys in two weeks.
>>146307718
Don't forget the Doom and Bayonetta 2 reviews.
>>146307850
Name a better one then.
Protip:They all gave #FE the same tier of good scores anyway lol
>>146308085
Bayonetta was 7/10 shit game, nothing wrong with that review either.
>>146308273
>review sites
What are the official names for the Law/Chaos hero and Heroine?
>>146308919
Don't have any.
>>146308919
George, Kramer, Elaine
>>146308919
They don't have names. In Kaneko works Chaos and Law Hero are called Waruo and Yoshio though. The Hero is called Futsuo there but most people use Kazuya. I haven't seen any names for Heroine.
>>146307326
ikr
Anyone wants to participate? Come on, we need more people.
>>146307326
Hopefully release it as I don't want my efforts wasted.
>>146303353
The game itself is good anon. The battle system is fucking fun. The only reason people were upset was because of the idol theme. And that they were expecting actual SMTxFE.
>>146303418
>But that's irrelevant
How is that irrelevant when you literally said it could fuck people over, yet it can't because the boss fight is easy? You're bitching that you can't visit the Cathedral or a Terminal because of the upcoming boss, but that boss isn't an issue.
>>146308919
The Hero - Kazuya
Law Hero - Yuuji
Chaos Hero - Takeshi
Heroine - Yuka
According to SMT Nicopedia page, those names come from character profile section in ATLUS公式リプレイ攻略ノベル.
These names weren't used in Final ("The Hero") or If ("The Hero", "Law Hero" and "Chaos Hero"), though.
>>146308919
Hero - Futsuo
Heroine - Futsuko
Law Hero - Yoshio
Chaos Hero - Waruo
Those are their names in the Kaneko Works and also in the English version of the iOS version's manual.
>>146311302
>The battle system is fucking fun.
>>146311481
But for some people the boss could be difficult, though difficulty isn't the point. The point is you are put into a situation that has the potential to fuck you over, with no way to change it.
That is poor design. Maybe you find the boss easy, but there's the random encounters with multiple enemies to deal with as well. I don't know how you can see this as being anything other than poor design.
>>146312340
>But for some people the boss could be difficult
And those people are shit and deserve to get fucked over.
>>146312340
You do know that you're bitching about a game that's 22 years old, right?
>>146313218
I'm not bitching about it. I haven't given any more than my one complaint, which was hours ago. All I've been doing since is trying to explain to seemingly almost everyone else why it's bad design.
I can't believe I still have to.
I love it when the light in hell subapp activates. It makes laugh as soon as the demons express disbelief that they're losing and they need to give me stuff or else they might bite the dust.
ONE
>>146315801
TWO
>>146316334
FOUR O CLOCK ROCK
>>146316715
FIVE
>>146316818
SIX
>>146316898
SEVEN O CLOCK
>>146316948
EIGHT O CLOCK ROCK
WE'RE GONNA COCK
AROUND
THE HOUSE TONIGHT
What the fuck was his problem?
Does smtg have its own Discord server?
The guy bitching about the alignment is sorta right. There SHOULD be a Jakyo near all the points were you take a major decision. Losing can be fun an all, but getting trapped in a cell with no demons you can use to get out could feel like a rather random "rocks fall, everyone dies" moment.
>>146317545
Yeah but only those with the demon summoning program are allowed in
>>146319297
Damn, Stephen must not have e-mailed it to me.
>>146318808
I kind of agree but there are some incenses, both bosses can be stunlocked with Zio and they also give 40k each.
They should've made sure you get to the boss fight before meeting Stephen so the player notices he probably can't summon most of his demons anymore. I imagine most players would load a save file and fuse some Law/Neutral demons before getting locked up.
Hama
>>146321350
reflect
Light the Hoy signal!
>>146325126
Hoy
>>146319297
I just recieved an email from this guy named Stephen
Pass the sauce my man
Hoy.
>page 10 again
/vg/ moves too fast
>>146309852
I might would. First, though, what exactly IS it? Are you guys just recording lines for no reason, or is there a purpose?
>>146328564
We all record the lines while listening to the song in headphones and then the guy who first posted is gonna compile them all with the original track so it's a sing-along.
>>146328869
So, I'm a young female (20), and my voice REALLY sounds like it. Am I useless to your project, then?
>>146329863
>So, I'm a young female
KICHIJOJI
>>146329863
INFERNAL SHINJUKU
>>146329863
TARTARUS
A
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A
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>>146329863
EASTERN KINGDOM OF MIKADO
>>146329921
>>146330215
>>146330482
>>146330561
My meme game isn't strong enough to get the joke. Are you implying that I should leave...?
>>146329863
Please be in the Schwarzwelt.
>>146330595
>being this newIt's a meme based on a tripfag from /sp/ who started to say L O N D O N everytime he noticed a girl on 4chan hoping they were there.
>>146330595
No, they just want you to be their Beth.
>>146330770
>/sp/
Ahhhkay, this explains it.
I've only been here (on 4chan) for a year-ish. Not to mention I've the web-sense of a 90 year old.
>>146331137
what's your favorite megaten
>>146331220
As far as mainline goes, SMTI. Other than that, the Devil Survivors for the SRPG, and Soul Hackers for the retro cyberpunk.
What's your favorite soundtrack from any of the games?
>>146331548
Good tastefor a GIRL
Holy shit the world of Megami Tensei II feels leagues larger than Megami Tensei I's. I feel a little lost and aimless right now, but exploring the land is more than fun enough to make up for that.
>>146331607
Hallucination I from IV.
>>146331682
Thanks, familia
Explain the process of rejecting gods, please.
>>146332643
You punch them really hard.
>>146332643
Step 1: Be attractive
Step 2: Subsequently get asked out by a god
Step 3: Laugh in their face
>>146332701
More details please.
Punch hard or softly?
>>146332878
Read the post again. I'm not repeating myself here.
>>146332968
It doesn't sound like you made your point anon.
Punch hard or softly?
>>146333097
>>146333198
Its all proportional anon.
Hard to a human isn't hard to a god.
Give me some numbers pls.
>>146333302
You asked about Gods, not humans. All you need to know about rejecting Gods is in the first reply you got, cease this nonsense at once.
>>146333520
>cease this nonsense at once.
Shut the fuck up YVHV.
You ruined everything, including some Law heroes.
>>146333619
>>146333619
>>146333724
>he disagrees with law
>HE MUST BE WITH CHAOS
White is the answer.
>9 minutes without a post
>Feels like 9 years
>Y
>>146329863
Nah, you should go ahead and contribute since so few of us have. It's fun to have a bunch of different voices in it (as we're not aiming to sound like a choir).
>>146301785
>>146301491
>>146301165
>>146300074
Fiends, it's a new thread. Please stop cluttering it up.
what happened to BBS anon, has he regressed to /g/ and is compiling Gentoo?
>>146304135
me too
>>146337908
I sure hope he's still working on it but it might've been a bit too ambitious for whatever his schedule is.
>>146337256
Oh, God, this is gonna be painful for you all to listen to, but I'll give it a shot. It may take a bit, though, as I've only half a clue what I'm doing.
Ziodyne
>>146341018
Null Zio
>>146341542
Hamadyne
Why did they make magic attacks so weak in SMTI and SMTII? Killing the enemies that reflect physical damage is so annoyingly long.
>>146342880
Agreed but I figure it's because the MC doesn't know magic.
>>146342880
Can you imagine a game where magic has increased priority, nearly always stuns/freezes, AND deals good damage?
>>146343512
Han and Agi should have been much stronger, at the very least.
Someone stream the OVAs. Like the good old days.
>>146344163
it's not friday
Where am I actually supposed to go when I get to Tokyo in SMT IV? It feels like I can only go to Ueno and I've explored nearly all of it.
>>146344007
Has your Heroine learnt Rimdura yet? That spell alone made her my main damage dealer against phys-blocking bosses
You're at the demon auction and this guy slaps your maiden's ass. What do you do?
For the record he's level 30 and immortal.
>>146344937
Try going back to Mikado
>>146344937
Talk to the people at the bar in Ueno
>>146345748
Kill him with mistletoe
>>146307326
Fug, this song sounds so shitty when I sing it .I voted for it so I guess I have to. Maybe next time we could do a better song.If there is a next time
Dia
Hoy
Where's that forneus?
>>146346980
Not even mistletoe but just a plastic charm that resembles it.
>>146297109
That florecent light looks really energy efficient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8F0HmtDomE
>>146351938
I always remember this game as the one with Azazel
>>146352365
who's the best looking, /smtg/?
>>146352365
Are the ones to the left of spess mareen the NINE protags?
They're so plain looking.
Anyone here play NINE?
Dosen't it have tons of 3D models?
>>146352502Mirai
>>146352502
>>146352502
Flynn. He has that samurai ponytail.
>>146352365
>>146352584
1st Row, from left to right:
- Akemi Nakajima from Megami Tensei
- Protagonist from Megami Tensei II
- Sho / Kazuya / Futsuo from Shin Megami Tensei I
- Aleph from Shin Megami Tensei II
- Hito-Shura / Demi-Fiend / Naoki Kashima / Shin Managi from Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne
- Flynn from Shin Megami Tensei IV
- Nanashi from Shin Megami Tensei IV Final
- Tamaki Uchida (Male) from Shin Megami Tensei: if...
- Tamaki Uchida (Female) from Shin Megami Tensei: if...
- Ideo Hazama from Shin Megami Tensei: if... Hazama's Chapter
:bulletblue: 2nd Row, from left to right:
- Kei Azuma (Male) from Shin Megami Tensei NINE
- Kei Azuma (Female) from Shin Megami Tensei NINE
- Protagonist from Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
- Serph from Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner
- Protagonist / Atsuya Tsuzuki from Majin Tensei
- Naoki Takeuchi from Majin Tensei II: Spiral Nemesis
- Asuka Miroku from Ronde
- Protagonist from Devil Summoner
- Keiji Minegishi from Devil Summoner: Soul Hacker
- Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV / Jouhei from Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha
>>146352365
>>146353007
:bulletgreen: 3rd Row, from left to right:
- Naoya Toudou from Persona 1
- Tatsuya Suou from Persona 2: Innocent Sin
- Maya Amano from Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
- Minato Arisato / Makoto Yuki / Sakuya Shiomi from Persona 3
- Minako Arisato / Kotone Shiomi / Hamuko from Persona 3 Portable
- Aigis from Persona 3 FES
- Souji Seta / Yu Narukami from Persona 4
- Protagonist / The Phantom from Persona 5
- Shin Kanzato from Persona: Trinity Soul
- Vincent Brooks from Catherine
:bulletyellow: 4th row, from left to right:
- Mirai Kaname from Devil Children Red Book
- Setsuna Kai from Devil Children Black Book
- Masaki Kuzuha from Devil Children White Book
- Jin from DemiKids Light Version
- Akira from DemiKids Dark Version
- Kazuya Minegishi from Devil Survivor
- Hiro Kageyama / Hibiki Kuze from Devil Survivor 2
- Derek Stiles from Trauma Center: Under the Knife
- Markus Vaughn from Trauma Center: New Blood
- CR-S01 from Trauma Team
Tell me about Mara.
Why does he ride the chariotand not on somebody's lap?
>>146353278
Mara is a girl, you fucking idiot.
>>146353336
Not always.
>>146353336
Well OK. If you insist anon.
Tell me about Mara.
Why doeshe ride the chariot instead of bouncing on some cock like the trap he is?
I WAS liking this sector
Where's that fucking X-metal
>>146354594
it hasn't even begun
>>146354715
great
mudo
Why don't Persona fans like Persona 1?
>>146357530
Shit taste.
No SL.
>>146296204
Sabbatma
>>146295668
>>146295725
>>146295817
>>146295849
>>146296006
>>146296204 etc.
alignmentposts (shitposts)
>>146296337
>>146300074
>>146301165
>>146331607
>>146331818
>>146342880 etc.
discussion
>>146296939
>>146301736 etc.
gamefag questions
>>146303353
>>146303575
>>146303784
>>146305867
>>146306113 etc.
/v/ thread
>>146306921
>>146329863 etc.
chat room
>>146308919
wiki question
>>146315801
>>146317545
>>146329921
>>146330215
>>146330595
>>146332643
>>146345748 etc.
OT/shitposts
>>146321350
>>146325126
>>146328323
>>146328345
>>146341018
>>146349673 etc.
worthless bumps with nothing to discuss
>>146337885 is a funny guy.
What's the point of this general again? Just let it die until Apocalypse comes out.
>>146363909
i dont know what anon two posts above me is about but man, Kazuma Kaneko's art makes my dick rock hard
>>146361704
i wanna nap with my cat mentor and demon bros
>>146364316
>those feet
>>146364463
That's Kaneko's Achilles' heel.Heheh, get it?
>>146354594
You still have unexplored teleports, keep at it soldier.
Hypothetical situation:
Abogalybse happens
you arent one of the lucky people who got the DDS in your email, nor are you lucky enough to be vapourized by ICBM's
What do you decide to do
>>146368163
Probably stick with my brother since he's /k/ as fuck. Maybe I can be somewhat useful with my shin megoomy tensee knowledge.
Alternatively, hang myself.
>>146368163
Try to find a gun and a COMP.
Or go hide and lose my sanity.
>>146368163
Wander around until I get killed I guess.
>>146368459
>find a gun
>kill someone with a comp
>steal his demons
Is there an equivalent for Team Rocket in the SMT universe
>>146368593
>find a kid with dumb looking headphones
>shoot him and steal his comp
>turns out its just a regular nintendo ds
>>146368593
Would the demons be actually OK with you killing their old master?
>>146368739
Just another day in a post apocalyptic world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrm1Bwa230Q
You temporarily or permanently live someone from >>146352365's life, who do you become.
>>146369328
Nice to hear that Toki's moaning scene will be left in. I actually didn't expect it to be removed, tame as it was. Won't sound as cute though, but I don't play SMT for cute things, so it's cool.
>>146351938
Proto-Akihiko and Proto-Revolver Jesus are pretty neat
>>146364318
>you will never live a comfy life with demons
y live
Anyone else think the Demiurge should have been the final boss of FINAL/Apocalypse?
>>146372309
Is Demiurge even in Final?
And no, by the way, It shouldn't be the final boss. It's already made an appearance in IV.
>>146372642
He's a Regular Demon.
The one from the Store DLC is GOAT.
>>146372642
So did Odin.
Side's you only fight Demiurge if you are locked into the Chaos path, on NG+.
FINAL only happens if you went Neutral.
I guess i don't like the idea of the Great Will being anything other then YHVH himself.
>>146363909
What is a general for if not what you listed?
Hoy.
Hoy
>>146369328
I can't even begin to tell you how much this puts me at ease.
Hoy.
.yoH
This general is truly ded
>>146369328
>We're at the DMV!
kek
>>146369328
>based atlus not censoring anything
I wish Nintendo had kept their filthy hands off of TMS#FE.
SMT X Twisted Metal
Revere me
>>146384642
Clank-clank!
>>146382636
Ninty US obviously hate gravure idols and don't want to imply that starting your idol career with swimsuit photoshoots is the best thing eevr.
Hoy.
>>146389502
Hoyposters will be shot on sight.
>>146357530
They don't like actual good gameplay.
it's 2pm wakeup
>>146364316
I want to have an affair with Atropos!
>>146393219
No, I want to sleep
Hoy.
>>146357530
It's my favorite one, though I played it only like, 4ish months ago. I like it and 2, but I couldn't stand 3 and 4. 1's the best to me because, though it didn't have some of the nice enhancements of the battle system that 2 had, it felt better somehow. Like the characters, the first person dungeon crawling, the characters, the plot, and the music (PSX version), goddamn the music is so good.
>>146397141
Anybody else thinks that the love potion segment in SMTII is a bit out of place?
ok
so I'm at Ouroboros
If the whole gimmick is that he heals himself I don't get what the big deal is, If I just get a bunch of Neutral demons with Agilao or dyne I should be good
>>146403773
Fug. Didn't mean to quote.
>>146404112
For the first phase, yes. Then you have to walk around fighting some easy battles and then do a second round against the boss. You can save inbetween of course. In the second phase he is far more powerful but doesn't heal himself.
>>146404112
Yeah, it's not that hard. End game is way more brutal. I'm at the end and I'm under-leveled, under-demoned, and under-armored, but I tore through the rest of the game. Major bummer.
Does Best Buy give you the pins when you preorder it? Both Amazon and Gamestop specify that it comes with the pins but the Best Buy website doesn't
I'm being a hero and no one can stop me!
>>146407002
>Chaos ending doesn't let you make Yoohoo and Midori your succubi
DeSu was a mistake
>>146357530
>>146391008
The gameplay was my least favorite part of it, but I loved the characters and story. I want remakes of 1 and 2
>>146386812
shit filter deu
>>146403773
Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should
I KNOW ITS MIDSUMMERS SHIT BUT ITS STILL SHIT
Final Fantasy = ELP
Dragon Quest = Yes
SMT = King Crimson
>>146413967
but I like Yes more than King Crimson
>>146414590
Close to The Edge is better than anything King Crimson has done but Crimson overall is a better band.
>>146357530
Because those 'fans' actually haven't even played half of the games in the series.
>>146415336
You're being too generous with that number.
>>146415336
oddly enough i only played persona 1. i enjoyed but i didn't start p2:is yet
>>146416243
P2, as far as I'm concerned, has several gameplay improvements, fights are somehow less fun than Persona 1. However, the characters and story make up for it. I don't think it's one of the most sublime stories ever told like a lot of people, but it's cool.
>>146368902
>Would the demons be actually OK with you killing their old master?
Depends on their loyalty. Speaking of which it'd have been pretty great, if they made the game over in Summoner games dependent on it. Like when MC dies and every demon he has summoned hasn't full loyalty, it's game over. But when he has summoned a demon with a recarm skill and full loyalty, you get the chance to revive MC (but all or at least the demons with less than half loyalty leave).
It'd be a great way to appeal to both sides but maybe still too extreme for the guys who don't like to game over because of their gamer pride or lack of time or something.
>>146369328
>we've changed it a bit in terms of combat
So John confirmed for actual developer of Final?
>I think celtic, norse sounds better
>>146369613
Did he mean that one with the scene everyone's bugging him about? If so, could you post examples? I can't find shit.
Either way someone really needs to upload it as soon as possible, I want to hear how it sounds in English.
>>146372309
>>146372874
>I guess i don't like the idea of the Great Will being anything other then YHVH himself.
Have you played II? I'm pretty sure Nocturne is the only game where they're the same thing or at least it's heavily implied.
What I really don't like about Final is that they made the Great Will just another player and a very shitty one.
>>146417630
>Did he mean that one with the scene everyone's bugging him about?
I'm guessing so, since it's something people have been worrying about since the localization announcement, and I saw people asking about it on their news post about the change from Final to Apocalypse.
What do you mean post examples? He just mentioned not changing things in the video linked in >>146369328
>>146418268
I see.
>What do you mean post examples?
Not really important, I just wanted to see how they were bugging him.
>>146416494
Personally, I thought the combat was really bad in IS because of how easy the game is; you would have to try to lose to get a game over, so I kept going mostly to see the crazy shit going on on the story and because Eikichi and Lisa were really cool. Eternal Punishment was great though because it was actually challenging and the boss fights feel tactical as fuck. I also really liked the more adult-themed storyline.
>>146329863
PLZ B IN PROTOPIA
>>146419432
No, the battle system itself is clunky shit.
>>146407002
How was her US voice deemed okay,? She's terrible.
Recarm
Law > Neutral > Chaos
>>146429549
