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Who let the thread fucking die edition

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>>145958159
First for Sora is an ordinary boy with no stand out qualities
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>>145958159
>http://tkhwiki.com
>t
I honestly want to know how this happened last thread
And why it wasn't fixed this thread
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>>145958159
Last thread hit bump limit and nobody made a new one.
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>download unchained as it's now released in the EU

"hey this doesn't seem too grindy compared to other games like this..."

>read about guilt

ok, fuck that shit.
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faggots
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>>145959971
And the localizations increase the grind by being much stingier with free Jewels
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>>145959971
Guilting really isn't that bad. You can easily grind 63 for anything not a blue duck and it's self-sufficient since you get Munny medals from it as well. Then you just wait the week for the evo medals and you're fine. I have like seven or eight Guilted medals and I'm F2P on top of maybe 10 or so 6* medals and I'm working on Guilting another six medals.
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>tfw no Alice

Fucking gacha ;-;
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>>145959692
Because copying the OP on a smart phone is tricky enough, I'm not gonna proof read that shit.
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I have successfully infiltrated a party, gained their trust, and became the party leader. I feel pretty badass right now.
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>>145961812
Now boot half the members and invite Donald sharing noobs to replace them
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>>145962086
dont joke about realistic problems like that
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>>145959971
>anything
The game gets pretty grindy unless you pay, even than the guilt is still rng.
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2 more days until us F2P poor plebeians can farm ducks and evolve this event medals.
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How many people ITT actually buy VIP?
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Just started playing KHUX since it came out in Europe, does /khg/ have any parties with space or should I make one?
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>>145963798
Do we know if NA and EU share servers?

Because if not, then you won't be able to join any existing parties as they're on NA
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>>145963913

They definitely do because I see people who definitely started earlier than Thursday, the English version is just an international one like FFRK
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>>145963959

Well either way if people are looking for a group I've set up one called "Daedalus" without the quoations. The message should be "fun" and I'm Bloogeyz.
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>>145963125

What event medals should I be going after?
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>>145964367

All 3. Riku, Sora and Cat.
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>>145964367
All of them. Apparently you need all three at 6 stars to fuse into another 6 star with the chance to get up to 100% added guilt
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This game gets old real fast with unlimited AP.
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>>145963650
I've bought it a few times. It's pretty nice. Gonna do it on Monday to take full advantage of 1AP and max everything I own and guilt some more freebies. It's gonna be great.
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>>145964676
And yet I can't stop playing
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>>145964676

While it may seem to get "old" if you can complete the entire story before the event ends you'll be set for the future
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Why is Meow Wow considered a fusion of a cat and a dog when It has absolutely nothing that that would imply it being a cat? It has muzzle, voice, tail tongue out'ness, paws, ears of a dog. Where does the cat come into it besides the name?
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>>145965475
Personally I feel like it looks more cat-like, especially in the face. But that's just me.
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>>145965637
Thats not what khwiki says.
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>>145966187
It's a good thing only one person in the entire world can edit that wiki page and that person is Tetsuya Nomura
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>>145966187
Than fix the khwiki.
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>>145966187
It's a wiki page and seeing as there is no source for that part of the sentence, it's probably someone's opinion.
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>>145966291
Why fix what ain't broken?
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>>145966402
Why bring up the wiki when I literally said, "but that's just me"? Especially when other people can inject their opinion into it and edit the page?
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>>145966291
Best wonderland monstergirl
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>>145966574
Because wiki proves you wrong. It's not an opinion if it's a fact.
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>>145966629
There's not even a source for that section, but I'm gonna end this dog and pony show before it goes full blown shitfest.
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>>145965475
The ears and limbs seem pretty cat-like to me

The general body shape feels like a cat too
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so... how many 3D medals should i stock up right now to do stuff with the meow wow and pals medal?
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>>145966718
Believe what you want to believe. That doesnt mean your right though.
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>>145966825
If you just want the completely fused medal with full guilt, you need 7 Meow Wows and 2 each of Sora and Riku. Get each Riku and Sora to 6* and leave them there, also evolve and fuse the various Meow Wows until they're 6* and you have two of them: one of them with 3 dots, the other with 2 dots. You'll have six medals lying around at this point (two of each).

Once the fused medal is accessible, use each of the Meow Wows as a base, and add a Riku and Sora to each of them. You'll have two fused medals, one with 3 dots and the other with 2. Then finally combine those two together and you'll have a single medal with 5 dots and guilt.
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>>145967230
alright. Getting more to reroll for high guilt isn't really worth it, right?
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>Guilt 3D Riku four times
>15%
>Guilt Meow Wow once
>24%
Cool fucking video game.
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>>145967381
I've set aside what he laid out, as well as enough for two more trios on the off chance I really want to reroll the fusion.
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>>145966825
>>145967230
Brief overview for dotting Meow Wows:

At 3*, combine pairs until you have four medals: 3 with 1 dot, 1 with no dot.

At 4*, combine the dotless one with one of the other ones to receive a 2 dot. That will give you three total (1 dot X2, 2 dot X1)

At 5*, combine the two with 1 dot to receive a single with 3 dots. Then evolve all of them to 6* and you'll be set for the fusion is made accessible.

>>145967381
You could if you really really wanted to, but in general it's just more grinding. The up side is that if you want to reroll guilt then you just need a single set of the trio with no dots for each reroll.
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>>145967445
Maybe stop with the shit medals then?
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Who's the six hooded members of the new organization 13? The suspense is killing me
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>>145971416
Xehanort.
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>>145971416
Vanitasnort, Terranort, Demyxnort, Luxordnort, Marluxianort, and Larxenenort.
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Can someone repost the image or text guide on how to properly fuse for the sora riku and meow wow medal?

Thank you
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>>145972879
Do it yourself anon. I believe in you.
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>>145971851
I can believe this. It's almost confirmed anyways
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Replaying BbS right now. Why is everyone in Olympus Coliseum but Herc trying to fuck Aqua? How did Hades sneaking a look at her tits ever get past Disney?
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How do I guilt the sora, riku, cat fusion medal when it comes out for NA? Do I rally have farm like a dozen of each now?
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>>145975557
The same way Aqua's minor jiggle physics did.
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Why do the OPs never link to the prior thread? It's weird how this seems to be a common thing, rather than just being one bad starter of threads.
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I'm new to this game and I have no idea what to do, I've been feeding my Aqua HD with medals to level it up. What are good medals to go for with this 2.8 event?
I got 5 Meow Wows, can I do anything cool with them?
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>>145975837
Because who honestly gives shit
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>>145976507

Which of the stages is best for farming Riku? He won't drop at all for me.
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>>145976507
Is the group medal even good? Also how come riku's bat ain't in?
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>>145976754
Just do the advanced one over and over again. I only killed the plant, egg, and wizard.
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Someone in my party is sharing a 9138 power Donald with zero dots. I honestly cant believe it.
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>>145976507

Only the cat counts for the dots or can it be the others?
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>>145976824
The ability itself is alright. 3x Single target multiplier + heal for 3 gauges. Not bad but not amazing either. But the best part about it is the Guilt, 40-100% is great for a free medal. Other free medals have 10-25%. You have to put in some effort to get it, but you don't have to spend loads of money to guilt it (or waste Mickey and Brooms, but those aren't out in NA anyway).
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>>145977306
Hes not a cat tho.
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im only at quest 100 right now having started yesterday but are healing medals even worth it when the game expects you to one turn kill everything?
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>>145977817

Its a fucking cat.
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>>145977817
Can you not try to start shit? Just because you didn't get the arguments you were looking for the first time you tried it doesn't mean you should try it again.
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>>145977953
They're for the later Colosseum Stages and some bosses
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>>145977960
Anon, he's baiting. Just let it be.
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>>145977960
>>145977972
I'm just saying.
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>>145978257
Nobody truly cares. You posting the wikipage again just to stir shit is just sad. Meow Wow is not the hill to die on.
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>>145977817
>channel surf the other night
>family guy
>an in-depth discussion on how Catdog goes the bathroom

But yeah, it's a dog.
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>>145977817
It's called Meow Wow not Woof Whoa
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Why are some of you purposely trying to shitpost about this stupid dream eater?
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>Message from Tetsuya Nomura

>If I had to pick, I am a person more on the dark side like Xehanort and co., I harness the burning anger in my heart into what I create. Kingdom Hearts III’s current development explodes very much in this sense. Each time, it’s a battle with Sora and co. who are the exact opposite of myself, it’s been over 10 years and yet we haven’t reached a conclusion.

>This battle will surely last longer.

>In Kingdom Hearts III as well, I am scheming many challenges that Sora and his friends must overcome, because I myself cannot lose either. And in preparation for the great battle that lies ahead, we have this one book that looks back on their entire journey.

>When I think about it, I had an explosive mindset when I made the first Kingdom Hearts as well.

>Thus when I look back at all the material, I feel that fever again. Fans who will continue the journey so far alongside Sora and his friends will also recall their own feverish enthusiasm. With that passion, we will not lose to darkness, and Sora’s journey will continue onwards.

>The journey still continues, but I would be overjoyed if you stuck with us until the very end.
>http://sqex.info/message-on-kh3-from-tetsuya-nomura-kh-memorial-ultimania/

Jesus Christ Nomura
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>>145978817
Because it's ordinary just like Sora.
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>>145978679
It's wow for bow wow you noob.
Wan+Nyan = Wandanyan
Meow + Wow is Meow Wow
I thought that was obvious.
Nyan for Meow.
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>>145979227
That shit got old after the thread and a half about it. Can't some of you let this shit go? Or does your autism compel you to drag it out?
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Where can I farm 5⭐ Meriwether?
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>>145979038

KH has always been his pet project, he was a massive Disney fanboy (the sea-salt ice cream comes from a visit to disneyland where it was sold)
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Why does KH attract so many autists?
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>>145979038
Well shit, the final boss is nomura pretty much confirmed
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>>145979512
No, I mean how it related to him being taken off FFXV. I think that letter came around the same time. It sounds kind of angry in combination with that.
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>>145979545
Because only autists like KH
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>>145980050
Normies like it because muh Didney though
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>>145980337
This, though I don't think it's just the Disney elements at this point. I know a lot of Normies like it from my college.
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>>145958159
Holy shit guys I just realized that Ventus basically norted Sora through Roxas. He really is his master's apprentice. On that note how different would Roxas be without Ven's heart.
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>>145980493
>Holy shit guys I just realized that Ventus basically norted Sora through Roxas.
What? How did you reason that?
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>>145979278
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>>145979635

Not surprised he'd be pissed

It's frustrating as the KH style battle system in early FFXV looked pretty fun whereas the jack-of-all-trades system in it now looks unpolished as fuck and wasn't all that fun in the demo.

It's a shame he's so reliant on his team so he couldn't really split away from Square Enix. He's seriously talented as a producer.

Say what you will about KH, but there's a massive amount of care and attention put into them. I don't think there are any GBA games with the polish of CoM.

FMV intros and end sequences, full vocal tracks, then, when you finish it, you find out there's a whole second game with a different battle system.
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>>145979038
>it’s been over 10 years and yet we haven’t reached a conclusion.
gee i wonder why
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>>145980606
Roxas has Ventus' heart which is why his appearance changed. The same thing happened to Terra and Xigbar when they got Xehanort's heart
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>>145980493
Is that why Roxas was a faggot in Days?
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All I want for KH3 is for Aqua to get that date with Zack
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>>145981376
That doesn't mean he got 'Norted though. People generally use that term to refer to when Xehanort does it because he's specially and intentionally doing that to others to further his plans. That's why I asked for what you were talking about, yeah it's an extremely similar process but when you said it like that I thought you meant that Xehanort had planned for that to happen as a part of his plans.
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>>145981531
heh
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>>145981630
I thought it would be a decent comparison
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>4 requird guages

Not sure if worth using these.
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>>145981915
the answer is no
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>>145981531

Dead people can't date, anon.
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you know who CAN date? me! i'll date Aqua
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>>145981516
I don't remember Ventus being obsessed with ice cream.
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>>145981994

There are 3 dead Final Fantasy characters running around in KH
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>>145980493
Come on why didn't Sora become Kairi then?
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>>145982151
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>>145982230

Not an argument
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>>145982318
Because that isn't how it works?
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>>145982318
Roxas did become Ventus though. I'm sure he became the organization's bitch because Xemnas looked like Terra
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Are there enough Riku medals to fill my keyblade? As a Rikufag this is something I must do
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>>145982340

Zack isn't shown to die, you only get hints that Sephiroth confronts him.
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>>145982438
>Roxas did become Ventus though.
Not really? Roxas has his own separate experiences from Ven. So far they just shared an appearance, though they may run into trouble later when/if Roxas becomes his own person and Sora goes to give Ven his heart back.
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>>145982624
>when/if Roxas becomes his own person
dude what
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>>145982438
Missed opportunity in DDD. Sora should have shouted TERRRRRRRRAA in the middle of Xehanort's gloating
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>>145982478
kh1,kh com, kh2 bc, kh 2, kh 3D
Yup.
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>>145982690
Did you not play Dream Drop Distance?
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>>145982624
I never liked the fact that 3D ruined KH2 with that crap
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>>145982690
Sora's stupid Roxas wouldn't become his own person he'd end up being another Sora.
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>>145982790
of course i didn't
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>>145982705
Well I'm just missing kh2 riku then. I guess I need to shill to get that?
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>>145983003
Are you waiting for 2.8 or something?
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>>145983106
not really
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>>145983187
You should probably catch up/refresh a bit then. Sora believes that Roxas should be his own person.
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>>145983003
It's a horrible game so you're not really missing out
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>>145983389
But Roxas doesn't care anymore. He was happy to become whole again
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>>145980493
He needs 11 more to catch up. Oh god I just imagined 13 blond haired kids in black coats chanting Terra's name
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Who are the 7 light people going to be? If Riku uses the power of darkness, can he be one? And will Donald and Goofy count or do you need a Keyblade?
I assume it would be Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, Ventus/Roxas, Aqua, and Terra.
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>>145983568
Yeah, but Sora makes a point of this. He doesn't believe that him and Roxas are one and the same, and considering how both Roxas, Xion, and Ventus show up in the "My friends are my power!" speech they're clearly making a case to separate Sora out.
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>>145971416
Either the original Org. members whose fates we don't know yet or the Foretellers + 6th apprentice.
Pretty much the only safe bets at this point.
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>>145980493
More like it was the other way around. Trust me the first thing Ventus will do when Aqua and Terra are saved is give them some sea salt ice cream
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>>145983756
Donald and Goofy do not count. Xehanort is really only concerned with those who can wield a Keyblade. I'd post the chessboard pics again with their popular guesses, but Nomura's been hinting that it might not be entirely accurate.
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>>145983756
it's Sora, Soar, Rosa, Aros, Saro, Asor, and Raso
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>>145983760
>Xion
Into the trash it goes. I still don't know why she exists. I hope Nomura forgets about her in KH3
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>>145983760
Kairi's kh3 stance right there.
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>>145983760
>>145984109
looks like she's holding a gun
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>>145983760
With the exceptions of Mickey, Roxas, and Riku all I see are failures
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who cares about roxas
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>>145984056
What about good old Roas
>>145983982
Can you post it? I've never seen it before.
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>>145984080
>mfw never had a problem with Xion
>mfw all the salt from you crybabies when she inevitably appears on-screen and becomes relevant
Go on. Reply to me with a "she has no purpose and contributes nothing" wall of text. I know you want to, big boy~
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>>145984373
Roas was exiled from Organization Sora
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>>145984080

But then you wouldn't get her theme.

Besides which, hinting that Xion's coming back was pretty much the only canon plot point in Re:Coded.
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>>145984373
Here they are. Now mind you, there are some I don't completely agree with .
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>>145984338
The guy is happy being complete again and people want to revive. Watch if he's revived he'll instantly be norted
>>145979038
Wouldn't put it past the guy to fuck over one of the most popular characters.
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>>145984441
she has no purpose and contributes nothing and also doesn't exist
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>>145984539
And here's this person's guesses for team dark.
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>>145984497
Coded existed because Data Sora was a cool guy
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>>145984627
Uwah!
Such a quick reply~
You are so bold, anon-kun! That's what I love most about you~
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>>145984879
thank
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>>145984618
I want to see Axel and Sora cry so I want that to happen.
>A happy Reunion takes place
>Corridor of Darkness appears
>Something comes out and lands in Roxas
>Hair suddenly grays and Roxas says but Axel I'm already half xehanort
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>>145984732

"Hi I'm data sora, by the way I know none of the people I'm talking to are real and that nothing I do has any lasting consequences and I will be gone and forgotten soon"

The game really drilled it into you that 99% of Re:Coded isn't canon.
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>>145985065
except the datascape was mentioned in 3D
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Guys how do i beat cerberus
I can barely do like 2 bars of hp wtf
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>>145984989
Impossible you can't be Sora and Xehanort at the same time.
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>>145985303
why not
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Roxas doesn't want to come back because he's not special anymore because some of the members of the new organization should be able to dual wield. So now that his special gimmick is no longer his he's content to remain in Sora
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>>145985518
Terranort and Vanitas are the only ones who could as far as we know
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>>145985518
why is that something special
everyone has 2 hands
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>>145976507
Does the 2.8 HD Sora have a specific name or is it KH 3D Sora?
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>>145985730
You can only duel wield keyblades if you have two hearts. And both hearts must be from keyblade wielders
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>>145984989
Anon you have no idea how hilarious imagining a Dive to the Heart with one half being Xehanort and the other being Sora is
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do kh characters have a physiological heart or just the magic one

are they anatomically correct inside
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>>145985907
Now that you can grow hearts back with ease anybody can
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>>145986265
Well nobody bleeds, so what does that tell you
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>>145986265
the magic one. What keeps KH characters alive is their soul which acts as a battery
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>>145986156
That's the final boss. After Xehanort is defeated his last act of defiance is trying to possess Sora
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>>145986445
It's probably both. The soul probably just powers the physiological processes of the body. Maybe like ATP.
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>>145986335
maybe no one has ever been cut, just bludgeoned by blunt objects
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>>145983760
>Xion

Disgusting

>>145983838
It definitely isn't the Foretellers. Nomura said the hooded 6 were people we already knew and that was before Chi was a thing.
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>>145986659
Sora's mom was confirmed ages ago as a seeker of darkness.
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>>145984716
That chess piece underneath the unknown piece looks like some kind of scythe.
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>>145986656
Being bludgeoned can still cause hemorrhage.
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>>145984716
One of them sort of looks like Roxas's necklace
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>>145986786
>it's because you didn't come back for dinner

I could dig it.
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>>145986871
yeah, internally which is why you don't see any blood unless it's spilling out of the person's mouth
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>try to get omega darkside last night
>get regular
>do it again
>only drops one fairy
Every time you need two of some shit the game gives you one or zero.
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>>145986997
But still its still blood, so presumably they would have a physical heart too anon.
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>>145986786
>yfw Xehanort ends up being Sora's grandfather
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>>145987087
and we never see blood anywhere so it's safe to assume that kh people are just husks
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How is my TT set up lads?

>5* Lexaeus
>5* KH2 Leon B
>5* Cerberus
>6* Black Coat Mickey
>6* Zack

I have a 6* KH2 Cloud and 5* KH 3D Riku i could also use

Worth changing anything?
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>>145986786
>Sora dinner's ready
>Come on down. Sora?
She had to clean up his messy room too so I wouldn't be surprised if she succumbed to the Darkness
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>>145987212
They're polygons, of course they are.
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Have they ever explained why Donald and Goofy's weapons can hurt heartless and nobodies when other weapons cannot? Like how Roxas couldn't hurt that Dusk until he got the Keyblade yet Donald and Goofy seem to have no problem, and how Sora couldn't hurt the Shadows until he stole Riku's Keyblade.
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>>145987452
He get a scene similar to the one where Riku takes the keyblade in KH1
>All she says is go eat your dinner after taking the keyblade.
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Is there a way to get orichalcum besides 1 every 25 quests? Doesn't seem like it from the googledocs.

also, if the above is true, how should I spend them? Use them to max out 1 keyblade, spread it out so that all of them are decent or focus on 3-4?
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>>145987714
because video games and poor writing
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>>145987714
Roxas and Sora's weapons were a struggle bat and a wooden sword so of course they wouldn't harm heartless and nobodies
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>>145987714
Enchanted items?
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>>145987714
I believe the explanation was that if Donald or Goofy defeat a heartless they eventually just come back while Keyblades are supposed to release the heart. But I think the gameplay sometimes doesn't fully reflect this, or I'm misremembering.
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>>145987994
In KH2 hearts were being released when Leon and Cloud killed heartless
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>>145986335
Elizabeth bled when they cut her hand to draw blood to end the pirate's curse.

>>145985657
I can understand Vanitas but Terranort? Isn't Terra's keyblade with his Lingering Will?
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guys you're ruining kh
you can't look for rationale or consistency, the whole thing falls apart immediately

it's just good times by good friends: the game, and that's all you need
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>>145988432
Keyblades can be in more than one place at a time . During CoM Sora and Roxas were wielding it at the same time
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>>145988621
That's because "Two?!"
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>>145988432
that's because potc was hyper real in comparison to everything else in kh

they're basically aliens to sora and friends
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>>145988621
Hmm true I guess. Wonder why Terranort didn't just dual wield against Aqua then.

But I guess it's because the internal struggle between Terra and Xehanort prevented this.
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>>145988621
dude what
that's fucking stupid
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>>145984539
Nomura said the 7 Lights will be people we didn't expect.

This is what Mickey would expect

Which is why it's not gonna happen
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How long does 1 ap last I just started back playing today
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>>145988930
Nomura's own words
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>>145988978
it'll be everyone that doesn't exist so computer sora, namine, xion, etc
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>>145988978
Selphie, Wakka, Teedus, Yuna, Rikku, Paine, Shop Moogle
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>>145988978
>This is what Mickey would expect
First off, what? Second, read that reply chain from start to finish. I literally said that Nomura has been hinting/saying that the chessboard guesses are not entirely true.
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>>145988978
Nomura said he is pretty much Xehanort meaning whoever Xehanort wants will be the 7 lights
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>>145989082
Not him, but source? Please?
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>>145988579
Nomura ruined KH. Xehanort and everything based around him was a mistake.
>>145988978
>people we didn't expect
>the lights are actually 7 Norts
>Sora and co are actually the bad guys
>>145988995
Read the notices you dingaling.
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>>145988930
In KH, at the same time Sora became a Heartless Roxas was born and entered the Organization. So if that's the case, at that point in time at Castle Oblivion Sora used a Keyblade while at the same time Roxas would have been using a Keyblade. Was this Sora's Keyblade? Within the Organization I think we particularly saw Roxas using a Keyblade. And similar to Roxas, Sora served as another Keyblade Master conveniently gathering hearts. So why was the Organization defeated?

The Keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the Keyblade at the same time. This is can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two Keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort's memories, but this point can't be touched on just yet.
Furthermore, from the time that the two were both using the Keyblade at the same time, the Organization itself was using Sora for their ultimate goal. Soon enough, each of the Organization's expectations differed. By changing Sora and Roxas's movements, eventually they became unable to use Sora for their true meaning. As a result, Sora became an obstacle to the movements of the Organization itself and he had to be defeated. But even if Sora were to be defeated, you could say there are other things to think about in making that sacrifice.
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>>145989361

>Nomura ruined KH

Leave
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I hope Nomura has been high or wasted every single time he picks up a pen to write this shit

if not, he needs to be fired immediately, or have any responsibilities besides drawing character design taken away from him
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>>145989615
He was wasted when he pitched for coded and KH1
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>>145989395
Anon, you could have just pulled out the Ultimania, it literally says that Roxas uses both Sora's and Ven's keyblades.
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>>145989821

gib monies
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What's really stupid is that 3D makes kH2 pointless. Roxas could wield the keyblade because he was a special nobody but in 3D you find out Xemnas had the keyblade all along meaning he could have collected hearts by himself
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>>145990035
>Xemnas had the keyblade all along
source me up bro
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>>145989923
I remember when I had to pull this out for Xionfags
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>>145989171
He never said shit on the chessboard pieces

>>145989251
Then Sora won't be a light. Nomura sees him as a dull ordinary boy and so does Xehanort.
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>>145990035
>Roxas could wield the keyblade because he was a special nobody but in 3D you find out Xemnas had the keyblade all along meaning he could have collected hearts by himself
Technically this was hinted in the BbS Ultimania.
>>145990183
Nomura was being coy about this as fuck:
-- Roxas, the "Sora + Ventus" Nobody, was able to use a Keyblade. In contrast Xemnas, the "Terra + Master Xehanort" Nobody, wasn't able to use a Keyblade. Why is this?

Nomura: I'd rather that point remain a mystery. It's possible that he intentionally wasn't using one.
http://www.khinsider.com/news/Birth-by-Sleep-Plot-Mysteries-Interview-1364
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>>145990183
In Dream Drop Distance you learn that Xemnas lied about nobodies needing kingdom hearts as he said nobodies could regrow their hearts. Xemnas probably did this meaning he could wield the keyblade again
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Wait in KH1 worlds had hearts meaning they could have heartless and nobodies. Easy secret boss material
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>>145990404
>regrow their heart
what the fuck does this even mean
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>>145990404
That wasn't the exact context for that. See >>145990360. Xemnas was lying to them to keep them empty so that they all could be hooked up to KH and receive a piece of Xehanort. You learn this from Xemnas and Xigbar's dialogue and inference from Blank Points. We see in Blank Points that Terra and Xehanort have been battling it out for control over the body. Presumably keeping the Org members blank would prevent more conflicts like this one from happening.
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>>145990183
By all rights he should have one, Nomura literally just said

>Oh I dunno, it's a mystery :^)

And implied that he might have purposefully not used it for whatever reason. It makes sense that he would hide that from the rest of the Organization but there's literally no reason he doesn't use it in the final battle with Sora and Riku.

He even says "Cursed...Keyblade... " upon his defeat. Though that bit might be a dub-exclusive plothole.
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>>145990035
The bigger question is why keyblade wielders don't stockpile their own kingdom hearts
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>>145990642
It's Kingdom Hearts. Are you expecting any logic
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>>145990642
Heart loss is temporary for a nobody. they come back after a while
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>>145990360
>>145990404
>>145990761
There is and will never be a good excuse for Xemnas not using his keyblade.
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>>145990642
You know when the Grinch's heart grows three sizes? Imagine that but with there not being a heart at first before it grows.
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>>145990642
Hearts are plants in Kingdom hearts games. Give them enough water, enough sunlight and in time a heart will grow.
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>>145990803
Xehanort did in BBS. There's no way that the one he summoned was the real kingdom hearts.
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>>145987792
plis help
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>>145990803
Yeah it's kinda lame that you can make a Kingdom Hearts just by killing tons of Heartless. That seems a little too easy.

Not to mention it doesn't even seem like a lot. KH2 and Days suggests that the Heartless that Roxas, Xion, and Sora defeated over the course of those two games were enough to make their Kingdom Hearts. Was that even ten thousand Heartless?
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Why do I feel like most of the more recent plot confusion come from either not playing/paying attention to 3D or looking too much into 3D?
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>>145987792
They'll add more quests meaning that you'll have enough for all of them
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>>145991293
Because 3D revealed that tons of characters throughout the rest of the series were either lying or keeping secrets.

It also introduced pants-on-head retarded time travel.
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Vanitas will be one of the Lights.

Calling it
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>>145991292
It was said in Days that her fake keyblade didn't work which why they wanted her to absorb Roxas and take his
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>>145991292
This post made me realize why ain't there a Kingdom Hearts in Unchained yet? you have literally millions of wielders releasing hearts from heartless.
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>>145991594
This is what I don't get why bother with Xion Roxas was doing a fine job alone. He even did her work for her. I'm with Saix on Xion she was actually worthless for the organization since Roxas was loyal until she came around
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>>145991140
Where did that one even come from? If he could pop his own all willy nilly without the kyeblade did he even need to bother slapping teenagers around? Why waste time with a war when you can just bring out your own kingdom hearts and then have fun in your "darkness"?
>>145991292
When I finished KH1 the other day it was over 8200. When I do KH2 I'm sure it'll be at least as many since there's a >thousand heartless battle.
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>>145991594
So it was really just Roxas and Sora? That's even worse.

>>145991707
The Heartless in Unchained seem to release Lux rather than hearts. For whatever reason.
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>>145991707
Pure heartless don't count. Only the ones Xehanort made in his experiments count so it was only possible to make your one kingdom hearts after BBS. This is explained in the first few days in Days
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>>145991502
It's pretty much confirmed going by Nomura's latest interview
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>>145992073
But you fight emblem heartless.
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>>145991876
>Where did that one even come from? If he could pop his own all willy nilly without the kyeblade did he even need to bother slapping teenagers around? Why waste time with a war when you can just bring out your own kingdom hearts and then have fun in your "darkness"?
Xehanort basically straight up admits in 3D that his previous attempts were fuck ups. He believes that the way that he's planning now is the true actual way to bring forth KH and open it.
>>145992289
Which one? Could post the quote?
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Reminder that the plot happened because Xehanot decided to go on a joyride on his keyblade without his armor
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>>145992384
I thought the one in KH was the real one since no one actually reached it
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>>145992412
There's that element to it too, sure but the one of the Secret Endings in Japanese, re: Coded's I believe, mentions a "will" being passed down via Xehanort's keyblade. A common theory is that Xehanort may not be in total control of his actions/is being influenced.
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Are the raid boss reward pools not RNG based? I've got the Omega Darkseid up to level 10, yet Host/MVP is only giving me gold ducks.
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>>145992412
Why do the Xehanorts wear the Black Coats again?
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>>145992763
because it's edgy
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>>145992592
You mean the Door? That was the Door to Darkness.
Here's what Xehanort says in 3D:
>"I once tried to create my own pure light and darkness to forge the χ-blade, but the attempt ended in failure. In my eagerness, I had lost sight of the correct way to achieve my goal. I acted rashly. I can admit that now."

The first part refers more to what happens in BbS but it seems like the second part seems like he's referring to his Nobody's and Heartless' attempts too.
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>>145992594
Then Xehanort's master is even more of a fuck up than Eraqus
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>>145992846
Wasn't the real KH behind the door but Ansem was beaten so it didn't matter since no one else wanted it
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