Vanilla Angband Comp(until July 6)
Elf Warrior with a permacursed Deathwreaker:
http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php
Junethack is ongoing for the rest of June: https://junethack.net/
DCSS Trunk Updates:
http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-12-june-2016
>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f
>Webterminal
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http://roguenex.us
>Individual Game Pastas
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Old Thread: >>145825603
>>145929653
>OP isn't amy
ohio do ur best etc
>>145929813
>120 damage melee hit
Amy I love you and want you to have my babies
>>145929908
I D E N T I Q U A F F
>>145929908
>not playing that one specific trunk version where juggernauts have a single 120 damage melee instead of two at 80 and 40
i bet you hate fun
>>145929914
well meme'd, anon
may you and your orb take it easy together forevermore
>>145929986
pff, I bet you don't even play itemless MuCK with turn 1 god abandonment while wearing nipple clamps.
First for Chei.I really need to clean up my images. I always mix the two up. That win is super old and isn't even supposed to be in that folder.
>>145929976
identiquaff depends on game obviously
it's fine in crawl, sort of ok in nethack but you should really price-id and buc test first, incredibly dumb in angband (just use ?ID, and anyways there really IS a potion of death)
>>145930178
Your pic disappeared, so I'm reposting it for you.
>>145930408
he deleted it out of shame, anon
>>145930226
What a fucking faggot.
I'm glad I turned you into a grid bug.
>>145930408
>2cat
>not a dwarf
shame
shame
shame
>>145930408
>that turncount
take it
What's better - two-by-swords for base damage, or cudgels for techniques?
>>145930408
T-thanks, I guess. Like I said, that win is super old and I didn't really mean to post it. Posting old wins is really lame.
>>145930647
cudgels are more dps anyways because of RAPIDU STRIKU
>>145929653
>these garbage op images
Come on.
What a lucky find.
>>145930731
Naicu.
Also, ironically it seems like kimonos are one of the best items of clothing for heat coverage.
Additionally, manhacks can suck a dick
>>145930931
Good feedback. I'll take it into consideration, anon.
>>145931114
post the id when you have the cash
>>145930647
Knife spear (or forked if you really want to grind those skills). To me reach kiting is better than everything else you can make early on unless you start with a martial art.
>>145931114
>>145931451
jesus
is that from the very first rogue of the thief quest?
wtf. enjoy your free reaching level 25
>>145931451
hey, +3 speed ain't bad
>>145931407
I'm dicking around with the pains of a lab challenge so unfortunately no knife-spear but plenty of manhacks which COULD drop combat knifes - if they weren't the most painfully annoying enemy I've encountered in the game so far.
>>145932092
can you still throw random shit from your pockets at them to get around their dodge skill or was that changed
>>145932092
Oh, for lab challenge I usually just use a wood plank since you don't want to fight anything tougher than a normal zombie anyway. I guess whichever is better against skitterbots is the best one.
You can sometimes find machetes in the dissection rooms, easily the best non-combat knife weapon to be found in the lab.
Turns out lost lands are a pretty good source of artifacts at a somewhat low risk.
Open the door.
Get on the floor.
>>145933135
Can you truly be said to playing the lab challenge without shoving all the mutant body parts you find into your mouth?
>>145932350
You can, but it'll usually do zero damage or they'll dodge.
>>145932492
Eh. I'm keeping the cudgel around for now. I am scum so I got strength to 15, so damage output isn't a problem but zapback and time delay is.
>>145933135
You. You understand.
dAd
>>145933960
>scaredscaredscaredscaredscaredscared
I guess 8 charisma will do that to you.Back to melee
>when you sneak into a vault and stab everyone in it to death just right
It's such a satisfying feel.
>>145934198
>Fighting a planetar surrounded with breathers with <350 max hp
Madman.
Why only one weapon? This character obviously doesn't hit things, so you might as well put a shield or statstick in the other hand.Grind more stat potions, those stats are awful for your level.
>>145934198
how many turns before you went splat? just 1?
>>145934198
>why.mp3
the drain flys are attracted to the food in my room and bounce of my screen at night when im trying to play roguelikes holy shit im so fucking annoyed this has been going on every night for months
>>145934737
>>145934864
>>145934948
Spamming manastorm and darkness storm and then phasing away and using my healing staff on everything worked out up to that point.
>>145935059
There are massive craneflies around here which somehow got into the house and bump around the walls trying to fly into my lights. It's pretty annoying.
Bugs are gross.
>>145934737
Because I get fucking heavy wield because of my top shit strength. I was using Soulsword anyway.
>>145934864
around 3 or 4.
>>145935076
The strength of scary monsters fear is based on their depth level. So deeper monsters will make you more afraid. Also doom drake packs can be threats even deeper than their native depth. Keep an eye out for that and don't let so many things get LOS on you at once.
>>145928817
Are you saying that's bad code? How else would you randomly decide between 3 options? This is the cleanest way to do it.
What are the best classes for lazy, given that the drop can be a hammer or a bow?
>>145935684
I think everyone can master the lazy weapons.
>>145935528
Right, I didn't even know that. I just learned that "petrified" is a fear status too.
>>145934737
>those stats are awful for your level
I actually found the cap of Sam and the cloak of Merry and since they reduce your strength but give you +1 speed I had trouble lifting my load so it would counteract the speed bonus that they gave me.
>Coolthulhu nerfed cotton balls
It's the end of an era.
>>145936630
Please explain the cdda cottonball thing to someone who has barely played cdda.
>>145936797
I think you can apply them to heal yourself, like a bandage. They never stood out to me though, especially when just sleeping heals you for a shit ton
>>145937118
>>145936797
Sleeping requires you to be tired, but cotton balls are ubiquitous and train first-aid.
Also, if you have a shit health score, you're shit outta luck.
But basically, you find 4 cotton balls in a pillow, and can find ~2/3 pillows on a single bed, more on a double.
At no first aid, cotton balls, like bandages, heal 1/4/3 for head/torso/limbs, at first aid 1, torso is 5
Just five pillows is 20 cottons balls, which is 80 torso health, or 60 limb health.
They're gr8
>>145936797
It was a healing item, like a less effective bandage, and though it didn't heal much, it was common as muck. You could heal basically anything by finding a house, tearing up all the bedclothes, and rubbing a few kilos of cotton on your mangled limb stumps.
>playing Gearhead
>trying to get a spiritual martial arts character running, because I think playing a dude who 1v1s giant robots with his bare hands and the indomitable will of the human spirit would be fun
>turn out to be right, but can't figure out what to do with mysticism
>after some googling, find out that you have to do something to the shrines after you use the main shrine in the monastery in the desert
>hike all the way out there
>use the main shrine, get a +1 stat boost to two stats, try again: "you have already meditated at this shrine today"
>use the next closest shrine, get a stat boost of the same size to one stat
>later while searching for the rest of the shrines, notice the stat boost is gone
>google some more: it's apparently a temporary bonus that goes away within 24 hours
>also that it scales with mysticism and your stats
>realize my mysticism is already really high: on the same level as my damage-dealing skills
>realize that the monastery is far from anything important, so by the time I reach it the boost may have worn off already
>realize cyberparts are probably a lot cheaper, EXPwise
desu I'm more than a little salty
At least martial arts seems to be really good.
Weird, unrelated thing I've noticed: EXP gain seems to be linked to how quickly you kill your enemy, or maybe how many attacks it takes, or possibly how disabled they are (as one increases, all increase, which makes it hard to tell the difference). An opponent that I completely disabled over many attacks and a long period of time gave 1 EXP. An opponent I broke the leg over a few attacks and short period of time gave ~30. However, a opponent I killed as quickly as possible, with as few attacks as possible gave 350-400.
>>145936797
health in cdda doesn't normally regenerate, you need to either sleep (which you can't do all the time) or use healing items
cotton balls were a kind of shitty healing item except that they were common as shit, and why bother using a rare first aid kit when you could just eat a dozen cotton balls to return to full hp?
VVV LOW HITPOINT WARNING VVV
>>145941650
A BROKEN BACK RENDERS YOU GRACELESS
>>145941650
>>145941650
>it invokes the hand of doom!
>>145941920
Q@y
Fuck that nonroguelike shit.
>>145941650
>Burns you terribly!
>>145942905
Yea I mean the game is bullshit anyway. It's fun at first but then you just get instagibbed by shit later on
the fuck
>>145943336
attention whoring faggot
>>145943407
kys
>>145943468
It's a meme newfag.
>>145943503
not an argument.
>>145943738
>>145943768
I'd buy that for a dollar.
>>145943956
YOUR MOVE CREEP
>no robocop roguelike
>>145927548
That image doesn't seem appropriate to me because the Minotaur of theLabyrinth is probably the easiest dungeon boss and Baphomet is a push-over.
I got Forcefield AND Spines on my latest Demonspawn. Splat incoming.
>>145944667
That is clearly a MiBe sacrificing a HuWz on an altar.
>>145944771
Then why does it appoint Chris, rightfully in my opinion, as the Lord High God of All Creation?
Shouldn't that seat be reserved forX?om
I've concluded that red dragons are the only dragon worth playing. They have:
>low exp penalty (for a dragon)
>best mix of melee and breath damage makes them amazing fighters all around
>built in fire resist that eventually grows into immunity
The only thing that can hope to contest with them are white dragons who are basically just a palette swap version of them with a different element. Red is better though because the fire resistance is incredibly useful for fighting fire which is far more common (2 bosses are fire-themed dragons) than cold and lategame cold damage falls off hard because undead resist it.
>>145945042
Steel are good for similiar reasons, but yeah. You just want the ones with good melee, xp, and life.
>>145945213
Don't they lose DEX when they level though?
>>145945042
>tfw no Dragon evolves into a Great Wyrm of Space-Time
I just wanted to be like Einstein-senpai.
>Splatted to a pack of 3 hungry ghosts
I'm so ashamed of myself
>>145945374
The problem with the other dragon types is they have some sort of retarded gimmick in exchange for being shit offensively, sadly they can't rely on the gimmick for the entire game. I'm sure Chris would just gimp them like the others.
>Just consumed 20 serums, including 4 purifiers
Proud of myself.
>>145945408
>make friendships that will last a lifetime!
>>145945678
Yeah, all Dragons should evolve into a Great Wyrm of Power at level 50.
Just joking of course, however it would be funny to try how good they would be as a monster race actually.
Can possessors possess them?
>>145945912
You can possess them if you're lucky enough to get them to drop their corpse.
>tfw there's a tavern thread in the advice section that's getting it all wrong and you want the right info to be given to any new players who might be reading, but at the same time you don't want to bother because the tavern is full of loud autists propagating bad information and trying to point that out isn't worth the hassle
>>145946042
You're probably wrong.
Shields are shit.
>>145946156
that's why bucklers are banned in mumo and a large shield is practically required for late game mumo
>>145946156
Shields were shit.And then they made it so SH is internally doubled.
>>145946156
Shields are absolutely insane.
>>145946237
A challenge game where you can't wear body armor and have to compensate with another form of defense (a shield) is not a good indicator of how good shields are.
If I guessed correctly and it is the shields thread that you were talking about, my opinion on that thread is that it has good posts that accurately describe shield pros and cons.
If you were to post that "shields can be good with unarmed" that wouldn't be particularly wrong.
>>145946513
Are you sure you're not confused about the time when the SH value was halved in the UI while keeping the same effectiveness?
Later I lost 100 mhp from vapour quest.
>Scroll of Acquirement
>Get Obsidian Axe
>On a mage
Not sure if it's worth using or not...
First level of Icky Cave
>>145948152
Oh fuck me
Who else here /dragon/?
Man Vehumet has been on the ball with his gifted spells today. He gave me Bolt of Magma and Iron shot pretty much one right after another.
>PCB monk
>almost 200 AC at level 30
>reflection from arthur's shield
>literally just that thing equipped so I have no resistances past the elficopo spell
What the fuck should I do now
Grab two rings of RF from a shop and kill Smaug for my third book?
I literally have no resistances and I can't grind for them because I need resistances to grind
4.0.2 sucks
>>145948548
>>145948535
>2 rings
STEP IT UP ANON
>>145948535
>Grab two rings of RF from a shop and kill Smaug for my third book?
Pretty much, yeah.
Also,
>playing 4.0.2
It's not worth it.
PosChengband? More like PozChengband
'cause the game is AIDS.
>>145949014
You did this one already.
>>145949014
pozcumbutt
>>145949014
does the Pos in Poschengband mean Piece Of Shit?
>>145948926
>not worth it
Byt I'll get called a memer who only clones dragons and scums 555
Are you telling me that's just one very loud guy
Are you telling me I should have fun instead of grinding 40 hours and dying to a mana storm
>>145949125
PozChengband did you already. Now you have gay cancer.
>>145949139
Sure.
>>145949167
>listening to unironic autistic elitists
Anon, shift+q your game right the fuck now and go have some fun. And yeah it is probably just one cancerous faggot.
>>145948504
>>145948548
I got it at like level 10 though and no other good weapons... I'll keep using it until I find something better or a staff enhancer. Or until I can't put up with its shit anymore.
>>145949858
Be sure to let us know when it kills you.
>>145949858
That's really risky, if you get stuck in fatal situation as a caster with low hitpoints because of the mesmerizing effect you're as good as dead.
>>145949139
the pos in poschengband stands for posband
the cheng stands for chengband
hope this helps :)
>>145950137
shouldn't it be PosbandChengbandband then
The "pos" stands for Possessor.
>>145950197
>not pepperoni and cheeseband
Always thought it was something like post-chengband
Like going beyond chengband
>>145950197
actually posband is short for "possessor angband"
and i guess chengband is "chris hengband"
and hengband is "hoge (?) angband", although it's based on zangband which is Zelazny Angband
so really it should be possessorangbandchrishogezelaznyangbandangband
Haven't checked cata in two years
Are Z levels in yet?
>>145950456
Seems good.
>>145950456
Or PABCHZABB for short.
>>145950965
what if you get drained for 8 levels worth of xp?!
safest to just keep it in the house forever
>>145951038
already dropped it
already recalled
it's gone anon
>>145951093
but why?
:'(
oh hey cool hitlomir
only tanks 30 AC and covers most of my basic elemental resistances
also found an elficopo amulet too
>>145951171
because the id game ridiculous
Looks like he retired and set up a shop.
Lol Aizul
>>145951963
PUT ON THAT BUCKLER RIGHT NOW
>>145952217
It's nothing special. Just a +2 buckler. Better than nothing though.
Aw shit we're back to the skinner box
that's why I love PCB
clonedurrginsalldayerryday
Gonna grab a staff of healing son
>>145951963
>23/16
>No shields
M80, please. Naked arms are lewd, put on a buckler.
>>145952531
why ain't you clonin ancient durrgins at 555
>>145952537
>Naked arms are lewd
good
>>145949167
>I don't have the emotional fortitude to handle playing a video game in a way some anonymous people on the internet may disapprove of
You are not only a memer but a massive faggot.
>>145952747
meh I wanted to do it the old fashioned way for a bit
555 is almost too good
>>145952747
Elf senpai will give you his LCS if he sees your hard, chiseled forearms.
>tfw berserk almost got me killed
That was close.
I'm playing along with the PCB pasta and The Labyrinth is kicking my ass. Any tips?
>>145952747
You're right, it's better this way. more efficient.
>>145953298
uh, go somewhere else?
the labyrinth is tough if your character is shitty because you don't have much space to run away or rest. go get some more loot and levels at the bottom level of the orc cave or something
also level your dex, jesus
both str and dex are important for melee blows/round. counterintuitively, strength actually get worse the heavier the weapon is, so for super heavy shit you're better off leveling dex
>>145953298
Get a staff/rod of illumination (you can buy one at the magic shop) and use it so you can see far down a dark corridor, second you should probably get a staff/rod of detection so you can see what kind of monsters you're going to be going against (Labyrinth is weird in that a lot of the monsters you'll encounter will be easy for that depth but things like fire giants will prop up out of nowhere and fuck you), third get a staff/rod of door/stair detection so you can quickly go through Labyrinth's small floors, fourth stay the fuck away from uniques. That's pretty much it, it's the only area in the game where the actual monsters are harder than the boss (mino who is a complete walk in the park).
>>145953606
>the labyrinth is tough if your character is shitty because you don't have much space to run away or rest
That's not necessarily true, Labyrinth has a lot of hallways that make it easy to funnel monsters to take them on one by one and if you get low you can phase away and quaff up.
>>145953606
The manual wasn't really clear if I should level STR or DEX so I just stuck with STR because I don't know what I'm doing
>>145953639
I actually got to the bottom and had a battle with the Minotaur and it was kicking my ass, I barely recalled from there. Usually I rely on my summons for distraction and that tactic doesn't work in the tight corridors of the labyrinth
>>145953817
Mino is actually sort of fast so be sure to quaff your speed and heroism, spam summons in corridor and wait at the end of it while Mino fights through them to get to you and then phase to summon more to whittle him down until you feel comfortable fighting him.
>>145953817
>>145953910
Oh yeah and that abysmal dex is really fucking you over right now.
>>145953298
That wasn't very hard and I'm lower level than you.
>>145950473
Most of them
>local bully not so tough after being raped
now I can finally learn some spells
Everything is dying from the aura.
some day I will get past the "I'm a crippled powerless underequipped piece of shit please kill me now but not really unless you mean IRL" stage that is the first 70% of a game of Halls of You Fail the Alchemy Test and enter the "wow I am a *band character with full equipment I am god look upon my works ye mighty and lootpiñata" stage.
Finally.
It took me like fifteen minutes of recalling to get one of these.
>khamut the protein ruins my perfect grinding spot
fuck you
Aw yiss
>>145929787
Stay strong and be positive, even when everything is ruined forever!
Remember to take breaks to go outsidebrieflyto improve your mood and focus. And gib head pats.
>>145957380
I have so much more fun adventuring the game and getting to 50 that way even though in absolute hours it takes longer. But to each their own...
So you can use forest creation in the arena to stop LOS, then stone skin then resistance true, then you heal yourself with herbal healing.
Best class for arena hands down.
>>145953298
You are in desperate need of dex to help with your blows per round.
Which one should I go for rlg?
I mean, I've heard that mana thrust is good, but the energy blast seems more fun to use...
>>145960123
you can change them later I think by drinking !NewLife, so when energy blast falls off lategame (b/c elemental damages are frequently resisted) you can change it
unless of course your current internals are so good that you don't want to change, in which case choose a lategame ability I guess
>create macro to spam herbal healing at level 90 of olympus after creating a cozy stone dome with my staff of earthquakes
>even with the stone of nature and 18/86 wisdom I still have a 76% failure chance at expert
well I guess I need more wisdom.
Too bad my cap is something like 18/130
>>145960690
daeron incanus luthien gong indra when
>>145960889
once I start grinding wyrms at the right depth
>>145957086
yea
I almost got there
Scuttle did me in again, but it appeared as a fucking illusion several floors after I encountered the real thing
>>145961213
>you have no space for a staff of simplicity: Healing (+5)
>completely immune to fire
Smaug wasted entire turns trying to hurt me with that bullshit.
>>145963657
i sure hope you're doing >>145886006
>>145963875
>it may breathe fire very unintelligently
>iketa the brave teleports away
heh
Uhhhh
so there's some kind of lore there or something
like
iketa-biketal
what
why
>>145964592
huh
me neither
In PCB why is it that I sometimes get one stat point and sometimes more?
Oh man I have never seen this one before. Looks like a good mauler weapon.
What do you know, forest creation is actually viable. Now I just gotta grab a needle from home.
>monks are capped at unskilled even with needles
is this a thing from mpa-pcb
I think it's mpa-pcb
Is there any place where I can buy just a normal ring? PCB by the way.
>using needles
drugs are bad for you, bro.
That took a while.
>>145968189
Zul's jewellery shop sells them.
>>145965831
I think it is mostly random luck, though I'm not sure where the code is
Also different races get intrinsic stat-ups (you don't get to choose) as they level, so if you hit one of those thresholds and also manually bump up the stat at once, it will increase more.
also, and this is kindof the opposite, but when you get close to your internal maximum for a stat, it will usually increase by a fraction of a point instead of a full point
>>145965836
heh, there's also some staff that has Summon Octupus, which is way weaker of course but still pretty cute
>>145968378
yay huzzah
>>145968378
>fisting the babble into submission
>>145968378
>Actually punching the babble
MADMAN
*quaffs healing potion*
>>145971742
Moderation in all things.
Found Boots of the Assassin on Formicid Fighter, worth putting on a Shadow Dragon Armour, train some Stealth and get to stabbing with my executioner's axe?
>>145972729
Wear a lighter dragon armour with resists and get that stealth up. SDA is good if you don't need the resists for whatever reason though. That one anon had a lot of fun with cleave stabs.
T-Thanks lucky. Found these bad boys around Stronghold 10
>Pop head into castle on my way to Telmora to tag it
>Shoggoth right next to the stairs
>Oneshots me
Fuck.
>>145946789
I'm newfag to roguelikes. Which game is this?
>GrFi ghost at the bottom of lair
>40+ AC
>10 EV
>10 SH
How does one even splat something like this? I keep finding a ton of berserker ghosts too. What's the world come to
>>145975281
Poschengband
>>145972990
I'll keep that in mind, gotta get some good armour and train that stealth for awhile first though.
>>145973306
I love when cursed items are good enough to wear
and damn that's early. Amazing to_h and to_d on that tulwar of morgul. heh and 3 AC
My character is still too wimpy to actually fight, but tossing boulders around as a hobbit warlock is pretty fun.
fuck, yaks are hardcore
V:$ is my favorite
>9/10 top deaths in double digit Zig
Why am I so stupid.
the most fun i ever have on a floor in a game usually.
So I fucked around a bit with the stone of chaos
aaaand now I'm a dunadan
that's kinda okay
my stats got better that's for sure
are dunadan just humans that don't get a mutation
>>145975667
>10 EV
Yeah, that'll get you wrecked if you're just mashing tab in lair. Even with all the AC.
>>145978663
I always save up some noise scrolls and burn a few defensive consumables just to make sure I get as many as possible.
>>145978675
basically, they also get good stats and sustain con
They are the the "high men" (not technical term) of Tolkein's Middle Earth, including the ancestors of Aragorn. They lived a long time and were powerful in sorcery.
>>145957872
Remember to love yourself, even as the world is falling apart!
There's someone out there looking for you - to give them the heavy petting of a lifetime!
>>145978675
>>145978893
more details I remembered
the dunadan are the descendents of the numenorians, the true high men. So they're like...the sindar equivalent of men I guess. The remaining rangers are Dunadan. I think most/all of the Nazgul were once Numenorians, so closely related
UGH. Ashenzari, come in. It appears I've encountered some kind of horrible cave demon. I... don't think I'm coming out of this one alive.
I may have gone too far in a few places.
It's all coming back to me.
>>145979125
awoooo
>>145978663
>fetichist
>makhleb
Have you found the disc of storms yet? Makes most of the game so easy. You can clear a zig without too much trouble as a Makhleb evoker.
>>145982402
i have two disc of storms box of beast and fan of gales two +9 iron rod and lightning two rods of igniting and a +11 broad axe of speed as well as 22 evo
and 19 invo
the only scary part i had so far was a brimstone fiend and a flayed ghost in elf:3 and the iron rod killed both
>>145982349
Awew lad
>>145982634
two discs of storms? Can you dual wield them?
>>145982634
shit forgot trip was still on
i also have tier 3 daemonic guardian and they auto dodge all friendly attacks now. so my balrug ally basically side steps 27 fragments and then blasts whatever survives to shit
So, the wiki advice on "Just bash the walls down with a homewrecker!" for the lab challenge no longer seems to work.
How to did escape, lads?
>>145982764
pretty sure. i use one then the other and it gives two full charged blasts. i usually never even need them between my axe and the iron rods. its like i am playing hexen all over again
>>145982905
Hope for a teleporter drop
Construct an electrohack and hope it doesn't fry the scanner but opens it
If in z-level mode, burn the ceiling and climb out
Hope that mapgen intersects the lab with an anthill or sewer
If playing with hordes, make a lot of noise and hope a horde takes down the walls
Start with skills good enough to manufacture an electric jackhammer
>>145982949
haha I'm joking with you, unless something crazy happened in trunk, there's no reason to carry more than 1 disc of storms. There's absolutely no cost to evoking one, just the time it took to evoke it. They don't have to recharge, they don't cost MP, they don't cost hunger, they don't cost piety. They're just a little unreliable even at max evo.
>>145983505
ah i assumed they go inert. good to know
well well well
>>145984142
DAMN that is a good helmet
>>145984023
heres my current dump i have to leave the house for now but ill be back to probably die in hell or zig later
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Ketziah/Ketziah.txt
So, as someone who decided to play nothing but deathswords until I win the game, please kill me.
Beside that, what personality should I be using? At first I used combat/Mighty but lately I've been trying my luck with Lucky/hasty. Lucky drops are great but I always end up splatting before I get to the point where I can grind stat potions to offset the shitty start.
What does Mark of Chaos do anyway?
>>145984559
crazy shit that cannot be ordered
>>145984318
>Ketziah is finally going to win
wew
>>145984505
I don't think lucky is worth it for rings and death swords since you can't realistically max out your stats even with say, ordinary. I guess it might be okay for 4.0.2 death swords with their nerfed device skill.
>>145984759
Any way that special shit can fuck me over?
>>145984974
damn dont say that jimxs can be fatal
>>145984142
So will you lose any good mutations if you drink a remove?
>>145986996
Cure mut potions remove any mutations except racial ones. 3-5 muts.
>>145986996
its random
>>145986996
yeah, might lose clarity, so if I find amulet of four winds I might quaff cure mutation
>>145987686
chances are you wouldnt even lose horns anyway
>>145986063
You got this mang. Go get the orb, don't do anything fancy.
>>145987686
cure mut a shit ton and get rid of them all and start over again i am sure you can find boots that would be worth it. that helmet definitely is
>>145929653
what roguelike is the best to play a necromancer in?
>>145988145
but i love extended. my guy is already powerful and i know almost everything about survival. all it takes is a few bad rolls but i worked around them before. the only thing i am worried about is lack of blink scrolls.
>>145987876
yeah, so it sucks, but not much I can do about it. Maybe save up benemuts and curemuts and do some low risk gambling, just secure 1-2 mutations I like.
>>145988189
I would but as a caster I really like that clarity and I like that +10% MP more than the 7 AC and 5 INT, since I already have a lot of int.
>>145988334
I pray to Chei for your success. Don't let me down, I've been waiting literal years to see you in the OP.
>>145984559
it randomly brands itself. It often semi-intelligently-randomly chooses a brand that the enemy is vulnerable to (but not always)
it won't fuck you over. It's one of the best brands.
>>145988239
this comes up a bunch, and the main answer is "We're waiting for somebody to make a necromancer roguelike where that is the main focus of the game"
Dwarf fortress adventure mode and poschengband are okay, but they really aren't ideal
>>145985078
Wait, Death Swords got nerfed?
Where can I see the changelog for 4.0.2?
>>145989139
>implying chris ever puts out a changelog
the relase post sometimes mentions some of the changes, but the only comprehensive changelog is the commit history on github
he reduced their device skill
also way back before /rlg/ played pcb he nerfed them twice in a row to reduce their chances of getting +dice on levelup and from killing uniques
Why does DCSS get worse every update? How is that even possible?
>>145988785
Has anyone ever compiled a doc with ideas?
>>145989423
>DCSS 1.0 release changelog
>removed DCSS
at last we will be free
>>145988785
I feel that if someone really wants to play necromancer then they should just play starcraft or some other RTS. Because the only real difference between cultivating then ordering around a horde of undead minions vs a horde of soldiers is flavor.
Furthermore, if you really want to control a lot of minions then there's no point in a turn-based setting, because the turn-based setting multiplies the intensity of your very deliberate actions with your character. In contrast, you can't control your minions as deliberately or carefully, mostly you can just tell them 'attack' and 'move over there'. So, with dozens of minions it becomes less a game of agonizing over each fraction of an aut, and an amalgamation of dozens of attack/defense rolls that average towards your guys winning or their guys winning, and this is usually dependent on factors that have been dealt with before the battle even started, such as buffs, positioning, upgrades, countering units, et cetera.
>>145945408
I encountered one once on like D3 or D4. I was surprised at how much damage it could do in a few turns.
>>145988785
i imagine it would be steamrolling an entire world near the end. once you kill/animate powerful beings you are basically set. maybe a follower limit based on creature power or something. who knows
>>145990241
there are several packs of them in labrynths now, like 5-8 of them on one screen. can be very scary
>>145990164
>Just a random number generator where 1 in 10 attempts wins
