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Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 17th:
1244 – Following the Disputation of Paris, twenty-four carriage loads of Jewish religious manuscripts were burnt in Paris.
1631 – Mumtaz Mahal dies during childbirth. Her husband, Mughal emperor Shah Jahan I, will spend the next 17 years building her mausoleum, the Taj Mahal.
1885 – The Statue of Liberty arrives in New York Harbor.
1900 – Boxer Rebellion: Allied Western and Japanese forces capture the Taku Forts in Tianjin, China.
1940 – World War II: RMS Lancastria is attacked and sunk by the Luftwaffe near Saint-Nazaire, France. At least 3,000 are killed in Britain's worst maritime disaster.


>News
EU4 DD16/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-16th-of-june-2016.948773/

CK2 DD 8 - Life goes on
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-development-diary-8-life-goes-on.939724/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - General Fixes V005
http://pastebin.com/ycs3f6UA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.3 - 21/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>145743776
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>145784587
yes yes i remember you fat fuck
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>>145784587
t. Cobra
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Repost from the other thread:

Helps anons. In Darkest Hour (Kaisereach), should I make tons of puppet states? If I do, they do nothing when I am invaded by the powerful France.

If I don't make them, the partisan rebellions kill my IC.

Playing as Austria is suffering.
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HPM release when
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>>145784705
never
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>>145784587
Reminder to have sex.
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Shaved Hitler = Best Hitler.
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How do I mod in 98% participation?
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>>145784824
What would hitler look like if he had no hair on his head like a skinhead?
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>>145784587
not an argument
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>>145784824
looks like a generic South German imo
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>>145784948
Janny's word is the law.
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I never know how much units to produce in my recruit tab.
Any advice?
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>>145784696
Your advice on this would be appreciated!
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Nicky
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>>145784948
NO ERA ARGUMENTO
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>>145784696
No. Why are you even being invaded by France.
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>>145785175
>>145785180
*braaaappppphhh*
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>>145785238
Because I vassal state'd Italy when the pope died. And I thought maybe I should get into that sweet Germany alliance.
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>>145784908

>What would hitler look like if he had no hair on his head like a skinhead?
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>>145785363
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Reminder to pay for the games you play
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>>145785432
.desab si tacdoP
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>>145785192
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>>145785519
Podcat is based
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ITT: Say something nice about HOI IV
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>>145785549
what is he saying
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>>145785432
I do, but it would be easier to do if you'd release more complete games, or make reasonably priced collections with all DLC.
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>>145785627
Production makes sense.
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>>145785549
That reminds me, what's that russian imageboard that has a board entirely dedicated to gsg / strategy games?
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>>145785348
Well what's giving you so much partisan trouble?
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>>145785627
It makes other paradox games look good.
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>>145785643
are you trying to shoah me
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>>145785627
HoI4 is actually more complex than HoI3 guise XDDD
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>>145785627
none of that order of battle tedium at the start of every game.
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Anyone playing Stellaris? The best Paradox GSG?
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>>145785709
Serbia, Romania, Italy.

I guess I will make a few calvary with military police, but I only have 50 IC to start out with so each unit is very precious. The manpower is even lower so even more precious.
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Reposting from last thread:

Alright anon, it's time for the next poll. This poll will decide rough starting location, and since there are so many possible choices I've decided to have this poll function just like the starting date poll, with a large, multi-choice-enabled poll to begin with, with a run-off of the top five tomorrow.

I've created an imgur album which gives the relevant mapmodes of all of the various areas included in the poll, with descriptions of their exact geographic breadth (based on de jure kingdoms) and a short-list of some characters there I thought might be interesting. Note that the lists of characters aren't exhaustive nor exclusive; I could still play a count, these are just men and women of particular interest for the region.

Also note, as before, that these characters may be totally irrelevant if the next poll decides that I'll play as a custom character, but the region I begin in will still be highly important, as that will still decide the region within which I'm creating that custom character.

The imgur album is here:

https://imgur.com/a/Ywmqw
https://imgur.com/a/Ywmqw

And the poll is here:

http://www.strawpoll.me/10509998
http://www.strawpoll.me/10509998
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>>145785627
HOY4 brings me lots of shekels and pays for my anime and shit
t. JoJo The Handersson
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Why no genocide in hoi
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>>145785627
no endless naval ping-pong battles where one side are transports that endlessly retreats to the next province only to be engaged again.
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>>145785627
Don't have to micromanage air attacks on ships stacking in ports.
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>>145785964
Because genocide didn't happen during WWII?
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>>145785964
What genocide?
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>>145785627
Techs are better defined and less obscure than HoI3. Port Strike Organization Penalty? Target choice? Target chance?
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>>145785964
Because it's not a fantasy game.
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>>145786125
>>145786173
Johanazi pls
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>>145785627
Supply system just works and in a way anyone can understand. no more "lets ignore the 3 100% lines and cut across the open country"
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>>145785964
What genocide?

HOY4 is about WWII, it's not a historical fiction game.
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>based marcoantonio already doing a Luxembourg WC
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>>145785903
Use militia or garrisons with MP. Cavalry are too expensive to leave in the back.
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>Play USA in victoria 2

>Have Korea in my sphere
>Japan attacks it and I obviously defend Korea

>Six months later Japan accepts status quo
>Korea instantly allies Japan
>Check Japans profile and see they have Korea as a puppet

Literally what the fuck?
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>ashkenazi
>nazi
JEWS DID THE SHOAH

OY VEY
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>>145786393
Thanks anon! Will try. Militia at least have enough mobility to keep 1-2 per occupied nation.
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Is playing the USA easy mode?
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>>145785627
Divisions no longer just outright forget their previously issued orders when they run out of supply/fuel for a day.
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>>145786495
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>>145786538
snozefest because you have nothing to do but escaping the great depression
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>>145786429
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/gsg/, post your favorite lads
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>>145786538
everything in HOI4 is easy mode
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>>145786664
HOY HOY HOY HOY

BUY IT GOY
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has anyone figured out how to prevent border gore with the peace conferences? any way to end your turn and immediately tag over to another country before they make their demands?
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>>145786638
:')
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>>145785627
Planes and tanks excess to requirements go into a stockpile that divisions pull from.
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>>145786638
C O D R E A N U
O
D
R
E
A
N
U
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>>145786638
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>>145786638
Alexander is a overrated hack, his father is the real deal
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>>145786664
Even Poland?
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>>145786495
Haragu-am
-hitler
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>>145786865
If you can't annex Germany by 1937 with Poland on hardest mode ironman you are retarded.
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>>145785627
Don't have to deal with fucking convoluted OOB's for garrisoning an area.
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>>145786634
t.rob
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I like railroading desu
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>>145786865
Even poland
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>>145786993
Only reddit dislikes it desu
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>>145785627
Pre-war start is actually meaningful for small nations and they can get some shit done before the shit really hits the fan.
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>>145786993
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>>145786993
>>145787107
>wanting to play the same game over and over again
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>>145785627

Nukes have a sweet animation.
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>>145785627
Water looks nice
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>>145787242
I don't play grand strategy all day every day
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>>145785627
HOI4 its isn't event driven and utterly railroaded like HoI3 is. You cannot deny the AI dones some outlandish shit at times.
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ITT: Say something not nice abot Vic 2
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Lads, I want to get into those autistic Matrix wargames. Which one should I start with?
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>>145787365
casuals get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145787376
Yeah I love sandbox games too.

Who cares about history I just wanna BLOB ALL DAY AND BLOB ALL NIGHT

THAT'S RIGHT GOY HOY HOY HOY HOY BUY IT NOW!
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>>145785627
Ok, fuck, stop replying to this already, you're starting to make the think HoI4 is a good game.
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>>145787413
It's shit, vicky 3 when
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>>145787413
You can have the best economy in the world by building a liquor factory and glass factory in every state and upgrading them constantly while encouraging craftsmen.

If you control more than 50% of the world's liquor you win.
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>>145787413
Can't zoom all the way out
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>>145787464
Distant worlds.
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how many divisions do you need for barbarossa?
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>>145787670
sup rob
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>>145787714
wrong thread
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>>145787749
hey alex
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>>145787749
3
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>>145787810
t. cobracrunch
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>>145787749
>>145787810
>>145787924
t. bobbit
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>>145787735
I've done it starting with 80 infantry divisions and ~5 light tanks, though you mileage may vary
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and Soviets declare, hopefully I can hold them off
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>>145786952
>>145787081
Ethiopia?
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HPM new when
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>>145788202
Never played as them but I'm sure it's pretty easy. AI is retarded in this game.
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>>145788202
not that hard since the AI can't naval invasion for shit
just take Italy port and you win
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>>145788418
I've only played ck2 and eu3 and 4 but ai was braindead in all of them
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>>145788409
when you stoop drinking liquor
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>playing multiplayer game with my m8
>hes britain im germany
>war started and i blew him out in france as expected
>italians conquered suez canal
>spain went democratic and he got them in the war so i conquered spain and gibraltar
>axis now control gibraltar and suez canal
>his imports now need to come all the way around africa
>just stick my uboats at the bottom of africa rekking all the convoys
>watch him starve out
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>>145788574
No those AI's are terminally ill but this one is literally brain dead. Once you make a breakthrough the whole line just breaks down.
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>145788202
Ethiopia is piss easy. Italy will just suicide off your troops if you put them in the capital. Once he's burnt through a million men, go on the offensive.
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>>145788574
HOI3 and V2 have even worse AI.

HOI4 has the best AI yet, it is amazing.
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>>145787413
Combat's a bit basic.
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>>145788673
>has the worlds best navy
>cant stop german subs

Your friend is a retard desu
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>>145786638
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>>145786738
They suppress
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>>145788732
> >145788202

lmao sup reddit
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>>145786638
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wish me luck
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>>145789049
Subs are op in Hoi IV desu senpai, I've destroyed the UK's fleet accidentally by grouping like thirty subs together and setting them on convoy raiding
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>>145789361
Haha hey there 4chan!
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>>145789587
Wut literally never saw this happens, every time I sent my subs convoy raiding they just got destroyed but the naval bombers.
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>>145789361
how u doin 4chinz

im totes postin this on /r/4chan lol
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>>145789560
>playing a non-major now
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>>145789496
>only one prussian out of nine
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>>145785627
i like the production system i guess
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is fascist focus tree the best for low pop non major? that 7.5% recruitable
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>>145790036
Correct
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>145789361
I dont get it?
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>>145790036
This post was made by robobobo
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Threadly reminder
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>>145790036
Everyone knows that HPM never posts in this thread when not having his trip on / updating about his mod.

He would have left this shithole a long time ago if he didn't know what you guys did to other people who dissed this g eneral, like Meneth.
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>>145789970
please stop whitewashing history
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I'm not really sure what factory output does...?
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>>145790604
where's the liquor
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>>145785641
hello bydlo
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>fascist guangs
>Ww2 ends with axis getting fucked like usual
>Japan loses Manchu rialto
>commies take most of eastern Europe
>Poland gets feed under allies
>Ww3 breaks out right after
>Allies butt fuck the commies
>peace deal gives Japan back all of its overseas territory and Poland gets all of Russia
>Japan is preparing against me while I'm fighting the Chinese civil war

Send help
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Not trying to shitpost or trigger anyone.

Is someone called Bob a shitposter here?

Bothering me all day where I remember hearing that name and it might be from here.
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>>145790901
t. bobbycrunch
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>>145790604
Topkek
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I posted this earlier but some of you might not have been here 4 hours ago. music pack v0.4 is out now:

https://mega.nz/#!a1pQhRSL!mX-bAcKxjHeUWYOJ9sAz7eiwK_M7_H5cH8nTUDVa98Y

here's the changelog for v0.4:
-per a suggestion, added a "Glenn Miller's fateful flight" news flavor event.
-Added a bit of England music, mostly Vera Lynn.
-Added lili marlene to both axis and allies; german version came first, then vera lynn recorded an english-language cover that was a hit. interesting story.
-Added some Japan music. Everyone says "oh add taiko drums" but I couldn't find any good recordings that don't have a bunch of applause or crowd noise. Maybe I'm just not weeb enough for this stuff.
-Added a few more USA tracks; Jimmy Dorsey and some Andrews Sisters
-per request, put the long songs in a separate songs.txt, so you can delete that if you don't want rhapsody in blue or wagner or Dvorak

Also, vote here (different poll from earlier, thanks for the responses on that one):
http://www.strawpoll.me/10511624
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>>145790662
I believe it increases the amount of goods your factories can produce per day. So if your baseline is 100% and 1 output rifles, 110% will give you 1,1 rifles.

Not sure if this also applies to civilian factories
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What the fuck should a backbone infantry unit look like?
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>tfw you keep getting confused between vic 2 and hoi4casuals whenever people talk about factories
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an important step to #MakeSwedenGreatAgain
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>>145790960
Is it compatible with the /gsg/ General Fixes? That mod also includes some songs.
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>>145791451
Yes, fully compatible. there's a few minor collisions (duplicate songs) but it's nothing major, you won't notice it I don't think.
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>>145790662
>+10%
>6.6/day
GEE I WONDER WHAT IT DOES
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wtf I hate Johan now
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>>145791220
Civilian factories benefit from Construction speed obviously
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I'm never sure about which doctrines to use.
Especially land ones.
Any tips?
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>>145791687
>now
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>>145791815
Of course that would be the natural way they would benefit, I'm just not sure if they do benefit. Haven't been able to tell yet.
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>>145791854
just read the modifiers and the name
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>>145792090
Thanks my friend, that was really helpfull.
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How do I get more solider pops in Vicky 2?
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>>145792228
encourage them

t. vicky pro
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>>145785627
production system is cool
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nationalists losing... again...
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>>145792331
It doesn't seem effective enough.
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>>145785964
>genocide
>in ww2
Armenian genocide already happened, holodomr already happened, gulags have not yet happened
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>>145792345
>being this new
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>>145792570
I'm not new, I've been in this thread since december and on 4chan since last august
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>>145792347
You can win that war with volunteers
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>>145792443
give them more encouragement

Make sure admin efficiency is at 100% so they promote faster
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When will this stalemate end?
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>>145785018
Then the average South German must be hot as fuck
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>>145792682
If that was true then you would know who Rob is. Go back to /r/paradoxplaza or lurk more
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Link to the patch where armies of countries you are at war with and they are too walk all over your country in HOI4. Pls
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>>145792682
>in thread since December
>doesn't know robmod
lies
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>>145792754
When you buy Breaking the Stalemate(tm) DLC
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>>145792682
rob was a faggot who made a shitty mod in 2013. He hasn't been to /gsg/ in 3 years but shitposters invoke his name because it's funny.
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>>145792682
>post 2009 period

fucking newfags...
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>>145792682
You have to go back.
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Is mobile warfare doctrine the best doctrine?
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>>145793183

Yes, since HOI2 at least
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>>145790654
He's North African, not Sudanese you fucking idiot.
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i like hoi4
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>>145792754
naval invade leningrad
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>>145793183
>not buffing your meme arrows with plan mana
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>>145793183
No grand battle plan doctrine is the best one. It gives you %110 attacl
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>>145792347
Should have send support then shouldnt you?
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>>145786638
t. alberto barbosa
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>>145793402
But mobile warfare has faster planning bonus.
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>>145792754
Why in fucks name are you using a fallback line as a front line?
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>>145791440
Finally, time to make the white man pay!
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how am I supposed to go about achieving grossitaliums when the eternal anglo keeps cucking me
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Where do I pirate the south indian portrait meme DLC?

It's not in the archive.
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REALLY?
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>>145791440
Sweden YES
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I pushed the Germans back to Warsaw as SU but I can't keep pushing anymore because the infraestructure is so destroyed that my units don't get supplies

so this is what strategic bombers are for? my bombing raids only gave me more trouble
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>>145790960
Add this to Brazil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMmegD2-Xc
It was released in October, 1944 (Around the time Brazil was fighting in Italy)
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>>145793572
>gotta go fast

Well, it didn't help the Germans
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>>145793609
it's to defend a specific part of the line, like my north and South flank
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>>145793572
It doesn't matter since it gives you like 2 percent everyday and decreases extremely slowly.
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The first person to reply to this post decides whether i play as America Germany or the UK
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>>145793635
attack anyway, best they could do is 1 or 2 naval invasion by infantry
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>>145793827
play as USA

gross CSA x-D
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For the people not here last night:
http://poal.me/fk4g5l
http://poal.me/fk4g5l
http://poal.me/fk4g5l
http://poal.me/fk4g5l
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>>145793646
it's like pottery
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>>145793827
UK
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>>145793901
usa it is
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wew cut off, now to go after the ports
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>>145793931
>when you are from the same country as alex grandi
i feel proud
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>>145793905
>Vietnam
>not wanting to massacre gooks in the thousands while having a high chance of survival
>probably emphatising with the dirty pinko commie gooks

I see reddit has taken over completely
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t. kojak
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>>145793646
Well turks were on pretty good terms with the germans and would have probably joined them.
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>>145793849
my navy and airforce are horrendously unprepared, and africa would be a mess
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What happens to goods produced in an uncolonized province? Are they sold on the world market?
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>>145794081
>being proud of being a subhuman communist monkey
Kill.yourself
t. Chile
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Fucking Italy manages to get itself encircled by fucking Ethiopia...
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>>145785627
Military and civil production is now seperated
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>>145793635
>1937
>england already guaranteed greece
>yugoslavia still exists
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Is Austria low-key the best nation to play as in the whole game?

> Italian wars
> Wars to either help build or crush Germany
> Can actually become Germany
> Tons of conquest opportunities in the Balkans
> Multiple nations to form
> Massive population

Sure they're illiterate and technologically backwards at the start, but if you can get over that hump you can be stronger than Germany.
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>>145794268
I thought I wasn't going to need a sarcasm indicator on that one..
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>>145794443
>liquor isn't even on the top 5 produced goods
consider suicide
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>>145791687
hehhehehe
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>>145794085
>Walking through dense jungle
>tripwires everywhere
>gook in the trees
>they're comin from the trees man
>all you hear is gunshots
>all you see is muzzle flashes in between the foliage
Sounds like great fun
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How time passes..
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>>145794484
reported to the nearest bureaucrat
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>>145794443
>become Germany
>become Teutonia
>GROSS GERMANIUMS x---DDDDD
>conquer italiums
>conquer franciums
>GROBSESESESESSSS x-DDD
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>>145794559

> Not intentionally hamstringing yourself by not building liquor factories.
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>>145794484
But why would a soldier go to a liquor factory? Shouldn't it be an angry beta craftsman?
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>>145792727
Alright thanks.
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>>145794639
>muh hollywood

Yeah, I'm sure 2 years of trench warfare or freezing off your eyelids on the eastern front are preferable.
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>>145794639
>walk into a village
>hear a noise in the bushes
>it's a kid
>shoot him
>laugh
>rape some gook bitches
>arrange the villagers' corpses into a mound in the center of the village
>burn the village down
>smoke a cigar
>it's not me starts playing
>get a purple heart medal
>god bless america
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>>145794725
He promoted by getting a gun :^)
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>be me
>play hoi 4
>play as german reich
>get rekted by poland and france

why

I drew the lines...

:(
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>>145795105
git gud
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rate the cunt
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>>145795249
gay cunt
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>>145795249
Link?
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>>145794957
Hello Edgy McEdgeface.

Face it, you're the sort that would cry like a little bitch when drafted.
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>>145795249
>Iraq
>not العراق

1/10 alḥamdulillāh
>>
Grandimod update when
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>>145795249
>>145795249
Did you change something?
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>>145795862
FULL KEK
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>>145795370
suck me wang

>>145795418
might upload later, ron

>>145795616
yes. subtle, tasteful, refined changes
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>>145796051
It looks so pretty I want to copulate with it
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>>145795475
>implying my country has a draft
>implying my country has a military
AYY LMAO
>>
Remember
>>
to
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>>145785627
I like production and drawing arrows.
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>>145796051
Make finland white you wanker
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>>145794816
That's pretty much how it was described by veterans of the war.
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do I really have to take out Yapan to peace out?
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>>145784545

Can anyone link me the EU4 DLC?
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What should my 1944 brigades ideally look like?
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>>145796631
Based Yohanny, thank you for posting in our humble thread.
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>>145796553
t. colourblind pro
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>>145796643
Remember to thank Bibi and friends for helping us.

Happy Ramadan, Asalaam!
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