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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/


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Previously on /tosg/ : >>145726254

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan)
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake)
cute (Hiraku)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
Empire (Louvain)
TakeItEasy (Moonie_)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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I want a cute swordswoman girlfriend.
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so when ppl say "lf1m dps for X" is it fine if i join as a DPS swordsman?
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>str getting buffed
>dex builds are all kill
STAT POTION FOR TP WHEN IMC?
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>>145760097
good one
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Peltastas are pure and cute!
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Why would anyone use the keyboard control scheme?
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>>145760097
>dps swordsman
nice joke
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>>145760097
they mean archer or offensive wizard
if they want a swordsman they ask for a tank
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>>145760161
To interact with objects
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>>145760161
Because mouse contol sucks for skills that require charging and gamepad doesn't have enough buttons for skill bar.
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Theoretically, if you sell a white boater on the market for 100m, would the bots buy the shit out of it in a heartbeat for them to sell for irl money?
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>>145760134
>str getting buffed
time for a bunch of reroll parties
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Meanwhile in Cawfee
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>>145760256
This is why they need stat potions in the shop but IMC is too retarded for that.
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>>145758218
Thanks Mafuyu.

I was thinking about either Krivis or Diev, does both work? I'm kinda scared about Krivis because I saw some posts about some upcoming nerfs to it, so I'm not sure. Diev seems to have a good synergy with Carnivory, but I'm not sure about the usefulness of statues.
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>>145760246
Bots don't have 100m on a single char as thats an easy way to get flagged so no it would never sell.
100m btw is around $600 on legit sites so gl finding whales willing to spend $600 on the hat
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>>145760170
>tank
it's Taunt they ask for, they know the truth.
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How/where do I grind for specific recipes? I need to expand my team storage.
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Nonimo and Beethoven, please come back.

How am I supposed to conduct a guild war when half of my aces are missing?
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>>145760340
>gl finding whales willing to spend $600 on the hat
i think you underestimate how much whales are willing to blow on stupid shit. i've had guild members drop thousands on cosmetic gachas in other games (and still not get what they wanted)
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>>145760134
Lucy, you have some 'splaining to do.
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>>145760340
so were talking about 20-25m range then?
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>>145760142
Pelt 3>Rodelero 2>???
I want an useful taunt bot build
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>>145760462
When you google it yourself you cocksucker.
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>>145760327
Cleric2Diev3Druid2 is cookie cutter.
You can probably make Cleric2Kriv2DievDruid2 or Cleric2Kriv1Diev2Druid2 if you want.
Someone with Kriv3 cleared ET but you need a dedicated party for this one.
Kriv1 gives you zaibas and daino.
Krivis2 for zaibas splash, divine might is kind of hard to pull off.
Kriv3 is for melstis (I heard it's going to be nerfed)
Diev1 gives you cd statue
Diev2 gives you owl.
Diev3 is for invulnerable statue (Most players ignore the invuln statue in my experience)
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>>145760508
Drop Pelt3 for Pelt1, and get Hop3. Finestra gives block, which makes you tankier than more Pelt. You can Taunt a nearly-limitless amount of monsters with just Pelt1.
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W-would a kind thaumaturge please make my boobies a bit bigger..?
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Threadly reminder.
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How do i stop myself from being addicted to my own alchemist potions? I'm drinking these babies like water
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>>145760712
>want to be ugly
fukin baka
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>>145760591
>>145760327
You could probably do Kriv1Diev2 to get 2 offensive skills if you want.
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>>145760506
Probably yeah but you can sell it for 100m or higher if you can find a whale since whales can just purchase silver from silver sellers.
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Previously on /tosg/ I asked some info about my build. Was going to fall asleep so I didn't think about it too much, I just realized my build was wrong. Later, I tried to remember who had given that bad piece of information to me. Pic related. Who should I force to buy me a Skill Reset now...? Damn you misinfo shitters.

Not to mention the cannoneer build has always been mislinked, even when recently the anon who's working on it linked to the updated wip pasta
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>Get to crab as elememe.
>Got 2 rotation of frost cloud/dark theurge and all of my other spells off.
>Crab is dead, my party didn't get a cube.
>Wondering what happened.
>Open inventory.
>Realise that I didn't equip my weapon.

I-I'm sorry, my party. I'm retarded.
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>>145760905
but is it 100% confirm to even exist? I have loads of time to kill this weekend
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>>145760491
The difference is that these whales need to rmt to get their hat and some whales have moral codes so an already small subsection of mmo players known as the whale is split even more by the requirement of "okay with rmt".
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>>145760658
>You can Taunt a nearly-limitless amount of monsters with just Pelt1
How so? Also, would this be effective on an
>all CON build
since I've always assumed hoplites pour all their stats into DEX
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>>145760591
>divine might is kind of hard to pull off.
You mean Divine Stigma. It's actually quite easy if you can gauge your party's kill speed. You can also stigma tree root crystals for a guaranteed buff every time.
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>>145760992
Confirmed multiple times by both the koreans and international.

Hell all you have to do is check previous threads and you can see tons of proof.

Btw a single weekend won't do it as you'll only kill 30k or so, you'll probably need to kill alot more than that since theres people (who you can check on the kill rankings) who have alot more kills yet no drop
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>>145761054
The Swashbuckling buff icon after using the skill breaks the 5 monster max-aggro limit. Using the skill only taunts 11 monsters, but if you run around the room next to monsters, they'll ALL aggro you, as if the limit didn't exist.

Pelt3 is a meme.
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>>145760921
The cookie cutter pastebin had wrong skill allocations and had wrong builds too. I had to remove it from the OP. I don't know if I should put up another pastebin for it.
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>>145761146
thanks mate

are gold/silver mobs guaranteed to give it? or do they only give more chances?
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>>145761189
>its this missinfo again
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>>145760340
>gl finding whales willing to spend $600

You'd be surprised anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfplXWiZOA
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>>145761321
No gold/silver mobs are worthless since they have set drop lists which DO NOT include white boater.
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Can I make a build to summon infinite shit that fights for me?
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>>145761189
Because that's not how it works. Take a wizard into the 130 dungeon and run around.
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>>145761463
oh, so no point to actually kill and hunt them?

thank you matey
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>>145761465
paladin's conversion
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>>145761487
There's an aggro cap for players, unless you individually hit more monsters. Swashbuckling breaks/raises that cap. Never had a situation where Lv5 Swash was not enough.
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>>145760230
Gamepad has plenty of buttons unless you go 7 different fucking circles.
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>>145761601
Than you've never been to ET
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>>145761319
I'm too lazy to reroll, and I wouldn't want to buy a reset pot with my real money (already broke as fuck). What the hell do I do? That's my build so far, currently level 76/13

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41177755.1a263a5361.11223545

I need a bit of help ;_;
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>>145760230
L2+R2 gives another 20 slots on controller giving a total of 40 slots.
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>>145761601
Post evidence to support this claim. Like I said, take a wizard into the 130 dungeon. Or run around a populated Demon Prison District 2, and post the evidence.
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Should I go 2:1 int:con or druid or just get enough con to survive and dump the rest in int? 3:1 maybe?
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>>145761727
It doesn't matter
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I always thought DokiDoki was a cute guild but they are actually in fact very lewd.
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>>145761727
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41177755.1a263a5361.112236455a6a75.112a31415565
Rest is up to you.
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>>145760921
Did you fail english? He's telling you you fucked up by not having DM at 5.
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>>145761928
Oh the irony, did you fail at english anon?
Hes saying that the tosg pastebin said to take 3/5 DM yet its bad and 5/5 is the standard.
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>>145761928
Did you fail life? I understood his answer, but I had put DM at 3 because I trusted the cookie cutter pasta build, retard. That's why I'm irritated.
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>>145761727
76? just reroll
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>>145761901
Thanks familia. May I ask you why you kept Zemyna low? I thought it was good as a supporting skill, sorry if it's a stupid question.
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>>145762079
Just buy a stat reset goy :^)
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>>145761665
I don't fall for memes.

>>145761780
Will do.
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What's up with the white mob spawn rate? I find at least 2 everyday.
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>>145762298
Why are you complaining?
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When's Cattly!
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>>145762352
I just find it weird.
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>>145762180
I don't want to spend 7,91 bucks, sigh

To think I had 99 tp and bought a token

>>145762101

It's still a lot of hours in the game, I completed all the quests up to the horrific Gytis Settlement Area and I don't want to go through that hell again any soon
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>>145762427
Its not unredeemable, its just slightly subpar.
Why worry about not having a perfect build?
Just live with it and move on, its not like you won't get into parties with it as people won't even notice, as long as you've got heal 10 you're assured a spot in grinding groups all the way to 280
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>>145762367
He died in the shooting in Orlando, sorry.
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>tfw 5m/h exp in Storage
>tfw they don't spam for some kind of AoE and party main source of dmg is a Kino3
I can so much as a tauntbot
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>>145761580
But that doesn't allow me to summon anything anon
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>>145760931
How cute.
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>>145762427
Yeah, nothing wrong with it, except that you will reroll after you play 10x of current type.

But seriously, level 76 is really really. I usually complete quest up to that point in 3 days of casual play, and that's already considered slow.
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>>145762610
find another party
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>>145761640
>>145761734
Keyboard has 40 shortcuts as well. All with a single button press. Gamepad requires you to press multiple buttons. Keyboard is just smoother to play with.
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>>145762707
Waiting to see torch event
If it doesn't spawn i leave for sure
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>>145762678
>you will reroll after you play 10x of current type.

Not sure I understand kek
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>>145762713
Except when it comes to movement, aiming and general relaxedness.

The controller is quite comfy
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>>145762071
>>145762079
Oh I never used a pastebin before cause I'm not a dumb faggot who can't think for himself and have to use cookie cutter shit from the pastebin.
It's your fault for believing the pastebin like a fucking moron.
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>>145762427
>level 76
Just reroll, you can get there in 2 days.
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>>145762610
Either you or the DDs are doing something wrong
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Is Rodelero3 ever worth it over Rodelero2?
I understand High Kick plus Slithering is a lot of strike damage, but giving up a circle of Fencer seems bad.

Also, the STR buff to swordies that kToS is finally getting seems really bad for Fencer builds. I guess Fencer is going to end being even more of a non-damage class.
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I have 1000 TP, what do I spend it on?
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>>145762795
Arrow keys are comfy, and they aim just as easily as the controller. I don't know what general relaxedness you're talking about as I use the keyboard pretty relaxed.
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>>145762659
>Not posting the full version
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>>145762931
Be like this anon and go full str fencer than :^)
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>>145762971
>Arrow keys are comfy
You are kidding, right?
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>>145762940
Wait for new costumes this coming maintenance.
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>>145763041
>Be like this anon and go full str fencer than :^)
Please, Anon. I can only fit so many memes into one character.
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>>145760931
Needing to unequip weapons for polishing is the dumbest shit ever

Why is that a thing honestly
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>>145762917
We have single target dps only
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344b9b.354555.15243541.113a.1a3a485161.1521354153

I don't know what I'm doing
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>>145762989
This is a blue board, anon.
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>>145763075
I already have the only costume I care about (Peltasta Master)
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>>145763041
>1006 attack
how does it feel that you will never use that attack due to dying before doing any damage?
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>>145762610
>wugu sapper kino cannoneer party without chrono
>16mil an hour without a chrono in party

sounds like you need to reroll
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>>145763045
I grew up with the keyboard. I am extremely comfortable using it and have no need for a gamepad. What's wrong? Just because you can't get used to it doesn't mean everyone is the same.
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>>145763123
If that's the case your party really needed to look for a Linker.
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>>145762931
It's not.
Apparently it only affects normal attacks.

And given that it's only maximum damage based on STR, that carries no critical damage and STR is only one part of total damage it's pretty much nothing.
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>>145761780
https://a.pomf.cat/jvyazb.webm

Have you ever been to the 240 dungeon? Know those rooms full of Lapezards? They have some 30 of them in there, and I can taunt almost every single one of them, with just Pelt1.
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>>145763126
What the actual fuck is this?
Completely drop squire or go full squire, not half and half.
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>>145763123
what dps is there ? only monk and hunter ?
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>>145763192
>not using a Steam controller
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>some poor sod selling mithril on the market for only 230k
>want to buy it but have no use for it and can't resell it
It's on telsiai market if anyone wants it.
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>>145760931
>Get asked to Mokusul chamber
>slowly channel fills up to 30 fletchers
>it's just me, healer and doppel who is low lvl
>boss spawn text appears
>I arrive when its health is at 80%
>realize I zoomed too far with zoomify
>I didn't hide names
>all the 40 or so player names now cover the boss monster
>I miss my spells as a result


I'm so sorry....
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>>145763303
Don't need it bro.
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Pyro C2 > Thaum C1
vs
Pyro C3

What're their pros and cons?
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I have a question about High Guard.

Does the -50% attack debuff apply to all of your damage or only your auto-attacks?
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>>145763218
>posting THIS much missinfo
Someone post the function for this retard who doesn't understand what "warrior str*1.3" means.
Its also been directly disproven by people posting screenshots a few thread back.
This isn't even mentioning the fact that str affects both max and min damage not to mention the fact str also gives crit attack.
Fuck the amount of missinfo in this single post is just astounding.
>>145763315
I bought my mithril for 70k in varena before they jumped to 300k anon, the price flactuates alot day by day. Also stop trying to trick people into being a good goy and buying your mithril
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>>145763528
>only your auto-attacks
That
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>>145763528
>>145763564
Misinfo. It applies to all damage, including skills.

We tested yesterday.
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>>145763528
>>145763564

Technically your skills deal skill damage + 1/2 patk
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>>145763552
>Also stop trying to trick people into being a good goy and buying your mithril
>implying I'm stupid enough to sell my mithril for 230k when they go for 500k at least on telsiai
Play the game senpai.
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>swordsman can squire
>wizard can alchemist
>cleric can pardoner

If archers can open shop, what would their shop be?
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>>145763848
Lewds
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>>145763848
Its already known, its called enchanter and seems to be a better alchemist at buffing items permanently.
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>>145763848
It should have been poisons
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>>145763528
halves your attack stat
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>>145763181
wish i had a wugu sapper cannoner there
>>145763269
After the full CON kino3 left we got an A3QS3Musket and nothing else
4 man party
Just a waste of time
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>>145763552
Not him but where does it say warrior str*1.3? Is that official patch notes or just speculation?

>playing on varena
Disgusting.
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>>145763218
>>145763552
Koreans told me it was auto-attacks only. On the same day, Dooddler made a test using Lv1 newly made swordies on kTOS and iTOS and comparing damage. His Bash was doing like 1-2 damage higher in kTOS, which he concluded means it works on skills.

I am not sure which to believe, but ultimately, it's pretty much nothing either way.
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>>145763848
Probably Appraiser
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Why is Mia such a boy bunnyslut....
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>>145764018
lose life
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>>145764018
No, Anon. You are the sluts.
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>>145763763
>>145763796
>>145763946
Okay, so it just cuts your physical attack in half then.
That doesn't seem so bad if you're going a DEX build, especially so if you're using Venier.

I can test it myself eventually, but I have to wait for my Pelt3Squire3 I know to wake up.
Thanks for the info, friends.
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>>145763996
Do you know what a function is anon?
In the off chance that you don't, it means its in the code.
warrior is koreans coding object name for the whole swordsman tree
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REMINDER THAT LOLIPAN IS A SHITTER WHO HAS NO IDEA HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME. DON'T BELIEVE HIS LIES. HE TAKES SKILLS BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THEY'LL FIX IT AND IT'LL BE GOOD ONCE THEY DO. KILL YOURSELF LOLIPANIGGER
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>>145762198
>>145763260
So pelt 1 seems to be enough, then. Is it a bug or a feature? I just want to make a build with the most effective HP and run around.
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>>145764139
Do you even speak english anon? I was asking you for the source. Just saying, it's in the code, is not a source if you don't actually prove it.
>varena
Of course, you're a monkey who doesn't understand english.
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>>145763260
>missinfo agents refuse to reply to post which proves them wrong

Hopefully people will stop making shit builds with Peltasta 2 and 3. Literally useless, unless you want to fall for the ET meme, for a minuscule chance to drop a recipe that's almost impossible to craft, for items that will be marginally better than 300+ white recipes.

>>145764243
Most people don't even seem to be aware that it works like this. In fact, it took me a long time to notice myself.

I won't take a guess on whether this is intended or not.
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>>145763927
But Archers are pure Maiden.

>>145764018
uhmm what?
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>>145764409
Mia's puppies...
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>>145764363
You don't take Pelt2 and 3 for Swashbuckling.
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>tfw your ToS crush promised to play with you this weekend and he also forgives the stupid typo you made
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>>145764409
>scout outfit
>pure
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>>145764294
>asks for the source
>gets his source
All you have to do is view the source yourself anon (which has already been posted a few threads back MULTIPLE times), if you can't do that than you're worse than the monkey who doesn't understand english.

>muh random racism because I'm being proven wrong
Yeah sure showing off your intelligence there :^).
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>>145764578
The only thing impure about it is your thoughts.
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>>145764294
>needs spoonfeeding
typical amerifat
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hey /tosg/, how to trade monster gems?
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such an autistic thread
probably even worse than /terag/ at this point
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>>145764554
I can be your ToS crush, I'm more alpha than him and can send lewd nudes ;)
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>>145764579
>trying to make a statement
>doesn't post source
>go find it yourself
The onus is on you to provide the source if you're going to prove someone wrong. Otherwise you're just full of shit.
>muh racism
Fuck off monkey faggot this isn't your hugbox.
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>>145764482
uh? its a Hoglan, not a little doggy.

>>145764578 this >>145764670
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How much Dex does s swordy need for PvP?
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>>145764579
>implying being racist has anything to do with intellect
How fucking stupid of a monkey can you be you subhuman trash?
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>>145762971
Im talking leaning back in the chair and not having to operate a keyboard. Not cramping your hands on the arrow keys. I can understand it being comfy for someone with small as fuck asian hands but dont try to claim its more comfy than a controller that fits nicely in your hands without having to strain anything to use
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>>145764876
No the onus is on you since you want to get all legal.
Your original statement was >>145763218, the burden of proof is on you to prove that it only affects normal attacks when all sources so far makes no mention of this and there are multiple proofs suggesting it isn't so.

Don't get all legal on me if you don't understand even understand how they work.
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I really want to farm recipes for silver, currently have 600k, and this is the most I've had in this game, Cata Pike costs about 3.5m, is hunting Vubbe blood worth it? if not what else should I hunt?
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>>145764554
Why did you delete your previous post? Wrong Nisekoi picture?
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>>145765000
I'm always leaning back in my chair while using the keyboard and I have never cramped my hands on arrow keys. Do you have big fat americunt hands? It is more comfy than a controller. Don't try to claim it as being more comfortable than a keyboard cause you're a fucking huge fatty. I'm not straining anything to use my keyboard.
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>>145765061
Spend your life in Mousleum 4F, maybe you can get sage wall recipe that worth like 3m
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>>145764891
Make a kicking dirt webm please Mia
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>>145765135
is the drop rate good? I mean more than 0.1?
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>>145765034
>no u, you're wrong, prove it yourself, so there, I'm right
kek monkeys going to be monkeys.
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>>145764876
>onus
the onus is on you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the korean str buff to swordsman only apply to autoattacks you shitty amerifat
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>>145765109
>arrow keys
They are not comfy in the slightest

>wasd
Comfy enough

And no, i have avg sized hands for Canada. You need to eat some food neet fuccboi
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>>145765180
I got mine at 4k kills, sometimes it may take over 10k kills. The drop rate is extremely low.
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>>145765273
but please do tell me I've got better chances at this than boater?
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>>145765000
>hey guys, controller is better than keyboard because I say so
>don't claim it otherwise because I don't agree
Full retard.
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>>145765195
You do understand the irony of this statement right?
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>>145764409
nobody cares you fucking attention whore

why don't you quit a 2nd time you fucking attention whore faggot?
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>>145765303
Yup, much better. Boater is like one in million.
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>>145765312
>because he says so
>gives valid points which are hard not to agree with

Reading comprehension
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>>145763848
>If archers can open shop, what would their shop be?

World Boss drops
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>>145765330
Hey brah back the fuck off
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>>145765407
thank god, I've wasted 9k kills ;__;
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Why all the sluts got white hair?
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>>145765205
>onus
the onus is on you to prove beyond resonable doubt that the korean str buff to swordsman applies to all attacks you shitty monkey

Also >>145764006
I'm not even americunt :^)
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>party queue resets once it finds all 5 members

But why
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>>145765330
>why don't you quit a 2nd time
I'm not that wugugirl
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>>145765426
That's nothing I just recently started
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>>145765418
Fuck off retard

>>145765506
you're not a girl at all you disgusting faggot
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>>145765270
>They are not comfy in the slightest
Says you, they are comfy for me. I have average sized hands for a normal human being. Lose weight son.
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Hahaha
Who's squire is this?
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>>145765539
goodluck mate! btw, sorry for many questions, but is there a place here where I could hunt all bulls? it seems that they only spawn 2-3 at a time
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>>145765543
No.
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>>145765415
Like I said, lose weight fatty. Anyone who thinks a keyboard isn't comfortable is a fatass.
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>>145765617
Volt
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>>145765456
The onus is on the original poster whos trying to prove x point you fucking retard.
Why even bring in legal terms if you don't understand how they work?
In adversarial proceedings such as this one the onus, or burden, of proof begins with the who has set the action in motion.

Since you're the original poster that swordsman attack buff only works with auto attacks, the onus is on you to prove it you fucking retard.
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>>145765543
Fuck off Kusohime stop bringing yourself up
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>>145762971
>Arrow keys are comfy

But how are you supposed to properly maintain targeting independent of your character movement with the keyboard keys. That's what ultimately had me switch from keyboard to M&K. It's just easier to point than to try to click around with the keys then lock target.
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>>145765670
>english words are now legal terms only
As expected of monkeys.
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>>145765456
>>145765670
GET A ROOM, WE DON'T CARE
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>no boyfriend to carry me on kToS
why even bother
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>>145765618
Nah, not the bulls, they spawn at 5F, you gotta kill the small stone mobs at 4F. Don't stay in one place though, they spawn around all the map.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11344aa4..35.3f.55
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>>145765138
But why..
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>>145765710
The argument was about keybroad vs controller. Obviously mouse is going to be easier to select a target just by clicking, which a controller can't do.
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>mercenary guy doesn't give you a warp back

FUK U
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>>145765791
You do understand even if it isn't legal terms that onus is still on whoever originally made the statement right?

You can't ask for other people to prove x after making a ridiculous statement without first proving ones own y.

I can't tell if you are lacking brain cells, trolling or some combination but please fuck off.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/215100/
SHEEEEEEEEEEEET WHY AREN'T WE PLAYING THIS?
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>>145765710
>But how are you supposed to properly maintain targeting independent of your character movement with the keyboard keys.
Two words: Target Lock
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>>145765936
Does tab targeting even work? I've tried using keyboard controls on multiple occasions but I wasn't able to lock onto anything, much less even tab target.
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>>145765890
ok thanks mate, goodluck to your boater
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>>145766115
Fuck off clique
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>>145766115
Because it's even more dead
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>>145766145
>Does tab targeting even work?
Yes.
It works better than having to deal with the terrible "click boxes" for mobs.
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>>145766145
ctrl button is target lock.
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>>145766095
>implying I'm the original poster
Except he only answered another posters question. >>145762931
>>145763218
You're the one trying to prove him wrong, thus you have to provide proof that he's wrong.
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>>145765901
No reason
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>>145766294

>>145764006
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>>145766115
Such a better steam rating than ToS
Why did steam bully ToS so hard.
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>>145766115
I already am
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>>145765842
>wanting a Korean boyfriend
Fucking gross, dude.
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>>145766115
Because it hasn't been the 2000s for a long time.
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>>145766145
Hit ctrl then hit tab until you got your target.
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>>145766294
Yes but the original anon made no argument points that requires proving.
He however made the argument that str buff only applies to auto attacks therefore the onus is on him to prove this.

I don't understand how you're having trouble understanding this simple concept.
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>>145766368
I want to play on kTOS, not have a relationship with someone from kTOS.

I can't do content without a cutie!
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>>145766464
You can only play on kToS if you have a phone number of someone who lives in Korea.
You'd need a Korean boyfriend to provide that to you.
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>amerifat vs seamonkey: the tale, the game, the novel, the game
even erp chatlogs was better than this
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>>145766426
Did you read the post? There was no argument that str buff only applies to auto attacks, it was just a simple answer >>145763218

The argument only happened when >>145763552 tried to disprove him.
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Another day spent shitting up /tosg/ at work without getting much done.

I'm sorry boss...
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>>145766368
Implying qtpie korean gamer boys aren't the best in the world
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>>145766270
I know, but I've tried everything with both lock on and off. Even with my controls being set to full keyboard and smashing the tab button, targeting doesn't change my target unless something gets closer to me than the thing I'm already targeting.
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>>145766521
I am already playing kTOS, anon.

I want to play kTOS with a cute anon, from /tosg/!
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>>145766115
holy shit that looks like dog shit
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Why the hell does combustion even exist as a skill?

It's so fucking useless
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>>145766372
but we're still in the 21st century. So it's still the 2000s.
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>>145766570
Why is no one leaking erp-logs anyways?

Do people just not erp in this game despite acting super lewd all the time?
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>>145765639
>>145765546

Keyboard =/= arrow keys

Moving with your right hand is awkward and uncomfortable
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How much Dex is necessary to hit those full Dex Archer fgts
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>>145766608
Your mom looks like dog shit.
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>>145766579
>Apparently it only affects normal attacks.
This statement right here is an inherent argument since its going against the expected norm.

As soon as this was stated, the onus was on him to prove it, if onus was never referred to than no-one would've cared but since he has referred to it than the onus is on him to prove his statement first.
i.e. you can't ask someone to prove the argument x after saying y first if you yourself cannot prove y
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>>145766768
You're my mum dude
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>>145766115
>most recent review
sounds nice
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@145766768
get a load of this butthurt rog cliquefaggot shilling his dead game
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>>145766702
The only thing I don't like about controller is it makes chatting annoying to do swapping back and forth
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>>145766702
Except it's not? Many people have no problems using the arrow keys, maybe you're just bad. Gitgud.
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>>145766579
a: "you're a homo pedo child rapist anon"
b: "no i'm not"
a: "prove it"

please stop responding to the sea monkey you shitty amerifat, you're scaring the cuteposters away
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>>145766830
I want RO nostalgia idiots to get out of this general!
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>>145766747
Full dex.

>>145766816
Son, I'm disappointed in you.
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who /mousemodeonly/ here?

I don't feel comfortable when I don't have one hand on the keyboard and one on the mouse, and the gamepad gets annoying whenever you try to play the game while chatting
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>>145766927
>nostalgia idiots
what if im
still playing anon
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>>145766747
just get a 220 leather glove and put 2 green gems in
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>>145767001
How does that change anything? Are you really this dumb?
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>>145767001
then fuck off to your general, you faggot
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>>145766803
>the expected norm
What is the expected norm? Citation needed. Just because you say it is, doesn't make it so. Did you poll everyone in the thread about what the expected norm is? or did your mom tell you so?

This is the problem. There is no expected norm.
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>>145766997
I use mouse mode with a $30 mouse that has a shitload of side buttons.

10/10 perfect comfy. Precise ground skill targetting, most of my skills accessible by thumb and can move easily via wasd.
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>>145766875
Fair enough on that point. Also having to use quest items by hitting V is a pain in the ass too.
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>>145766997
>>145767073
>who /mousemodeonly/ here?
Enjoy missing auto attacks as a Wizard/Archer because the boss moved a bit and their click box isn't the same as their model.

Enjoy having to switch to keyboard mode to access crowded NPCs and use certain items in quests.
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>>145766997
>3d fps era kiddy
>has never played old school 2d fps before
Babies all of you.
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>>145766871
Hes even replying to himself at this point.
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>>145767117
>Also having to use quest items by hitting V is a pain in the ass too.
You can press R2+Start to use quest items on a controller.
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>>145767065
The patch notes outright states str increased by 1.3* for swordsman.
No mention of anything else other than that.
This becomes the expected norm, anything besides this is an outright argument against.

You can keep going all day anon moving the goalposts all you want but just accept you've been completely and utterly rekt to the point that you're resorting to 10 year old "your mama" ad hominems.
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>>145767168
????
I don't even understand what the first thing means, never had a problem. Also if you are playing an archer class then mouse mode is infinitely better for auto attacks due to higher DPS to begin with dumbass.

Second point is moot because you can simply make a keybind for the interact button during mouse mode.
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>>145764776
No, not yet. It is getting close to that cesspool though.
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>>145766997
>not being controller master race
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>>145767073
Agreed my nigga,
the only issue I have is the buggy quest accepting sometimes

>>145767168
I play wizard exclusively, the missing auto attacks doesn't happen to me, also have never problems with accessing crowded npcs
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>>145767168
>Enjoy missing auto attacks as a Wizard/Archer because the boss moved a bit and their click box isn't the same as their model.
No problem here with my Wiz/Archer in mouse mode.
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>>145766875
>>145767117
Superior keyboard masterrace. I never have to move my hands off the keyboard to control my character ever.
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>>145767276
WHY AM I JUST LEARNING THIS NOW

>>145767339
Except when your hands cramp on you and you're forced to stop playing for a while until they stop trying to kill themselves
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>>145767065
>arguing about something completely unrelated to the point once losing
kek, cmon man i was rooting for you to beat the sea shitter at his legal gibberish
are you really going to lose to a sea shitter? get your act together faggot
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>>145767290
>No mention of anything else other than that.
>This becomes the expected norm, anything besides this is an outright argument against.
Except that's just your assumption. You said it yourself, no mention of anything else, means it could be either.

And if it could be either, the onus lies on the first person who tries to disprove the other.
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>>145766115
The Steam version of the Game is tied to the new european Ragnaök online Server (former fRO) and is running a little over 500 Players at lowest, 1300 at highest times (WoE, new Patch).

The War of Emperium (WoE) community in this server is strongly tied into the core of this server. The majority of recruitment chatrooms are looking for active WoE players. For those who don't know: WoE is basically a massive scale castle siege PvP event thats occuring on a scheduled base.

Now here is the problem with that: Equipment.

The monetization model of this particular RO server takes into account, that people don't need the Cash Shop items after hitting max lvl, since most Items in there are convenience Items like EXP-boosts, character-Slots and cosmetic Headgears.

At some point in time, the Management decided to add new Headgears with unique visual appearance into the shop and added effects on those Equipment pieces that rival the power level of high level MVP Cards (Read: 1:10.000 dropchance items from bosses that only respawn every couple hours).

These Headgear items can single handedly outrank EVERY SINGLE NON SHOP ITEM

Also there is the issue of EXP-multipliers. There are 2 levels of base EXP for players on this server

0.75 Base EXP multiplier / 0.75 Job EXP multiplier - Free 2 Play accounts
Premium Accounts have 230% increased EXP across the board until their payment runs out

So playing with a friend that has a Premium account renders you unable to progress together quickly, since the maximum level that partymembers benefit from each other killing monsters is 15.

Oh, and also: The main content of 3rd Classes is locked behind a paywall, Quests from the newly introduced Eden Group that should be repeatable (70+) are locked out of repeatable status and any recommendations in the forum grant you a link to premium status to alleviate the pressure of missing exp from quests.

I really love Ragnarök as a game, but in this environment, I'd hate to play it
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>>145767390
>his hands cramp
Mine has never cramped in the 15 years I've been using a keyboard. Get a hand rest you cheapo. I don't even use one.
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>>145767303
>Also if you are playing an archer class then mouse mode is infinitely better for auto attacks due to higher DPS to begin with dumbass.
That will eventually be patched out. It already was in kToS.

>Second point is moot because you can simply make a keybind for the interact button during mouse mode.
You still need to actually hover your mouse over the NPC/item. That fix only exists to fix bugs where you can't actually click on an object to complete a quest.

>>145767325
>>145767338
You haven't played in mouse mode enough. When jumping around auto attacking on a Wizard I'll often end up not auto attacking the boss and instead auto attack in the direction I'm facing.
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>>145767447
Nigger, I'm winning son. Can't you see my superior infallible logic? >>145767549
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>>145767617
>The Steam version of the Game is tied to the new european Ragnaök online Server
That's completely wrong, last time I played with /v/ and /a/, I got put on iRO despite being in Europe.
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>>145767715
>not played in mouse mode enough
I've played only in mousemode
and 90% of that support wizards that rely on alot of autoattacking

I think you're fucking braindead or something if you can't stay on your target
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>>145767715
8 Month not long enough?

i barely autoatttack at my wiz after R2 or R3
but still doing a lot at my archer


>That will eventually be patched out
they already did here too. and its no difference
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>>145767812
>everything you said is true, the game is a gross p2w cash grab mess of its' former shell

>oh that tiny detail is wrong tho but I can't prove it at all take my word for it

you truly are retarded
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>>145767617
Why is it always the management that ruins games? RIP mmos, you will never be a great genre again.
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>>145767617
May as well play a private server
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>>145767715
>That will eventually be patched out. It already was in kToS.
>he doesn't know

We already got that patch, except hilariously it wasn't referring to archer attacks AT ALL. The ones who got cucked were some fencers and wizards, archers are still superior with mouse mode.
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>>145767663
>arrow keys

>IVE BEEN USING THE KEYBOARD FOR 15 YEARS

This site is restricted to those 18+. Leave.
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>>145767905
>>I think you're fucking braindead or something if you can't stay on your target
My mouse is hovering over the boss the entire time.
Mouse mode is also obnoxious because you'll often not even see the HP bar for what you're attacking.

>>145767917
>but still doing a lot at my archer
It happens far less frequently, or it's less difficult to notice, because auto attacks face you towards your target.

>>145768054
It's not like the mouse mode "DPS increase" even matters since it's minute, and the only class that really cares about it is QS.
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>>145767971
what
I didn't disagree with the game being shit
I just told you that you were wrong, you can play on iRO from the steam version

Calm your autism down.
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>>145767971
Not him but,
>but I can't prove it at all take my word for it
here we go again.
>>
Did they add any cool mounts yet?
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>>145768157
Have you tried clicking the thing you want to attack?
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>>145768003
Because good management maximize revenue, not profit.
And game companies rather have huge profit then liquidate themselves years later than investing in long term revenue and steady profit.
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>>145768192
Who cares what you have to say then?

Just stop posting you fucking autistic retard. You made your reply sound like you had something of value being posted, like a big misconception was corrected. But you're a retard. And I proved you're a retard.

>>145768245
>Not him but
Fuck off retard.
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>>145768147
>using the keyboard for 15 years means I'm 15 years old
Sure mate, I've been using the keyboard the second the doctor pulled me out.
Pretty sure you're the one who's underaged if you resort to that sort of illogical come back.
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>>145768275
You got me, Anon. Wow. You're so smart.

Why don't you actually pay attention to what you're character is doing instead of fucking around in chat. Maybe you'll notice the issues with mouse mode then.
>>
Mia's garter belt...
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>>145768327
>You made your reply sound like you had something of value being posted
No I didn't.
>But you're a retard. And I proved you're a retard.
Calm your salty ass down autismlord.
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>>145768382
Maybe you're fucking retarded and are the only ones with issues because I ain't having any of these
>>
Literally the only thing that was wrong with mouse mode was pets getting in the way during combat, but now they've fixed that.
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>>145768157
i really have 0 problems with my archer. (now that they fixed faggot pets)
i very often dmg based aggro kite bosses on missions. no idea what you talking about, but mousemode is fine.
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>>145768327
Not him but
>Fuck off retard.
I don't get this meme.
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>>145768486
I'm sure, Anon.
Also, enjoy missing with Ice Pike, Zaibas, etc. because sometimes your character decides that they're not going to actually face directly to the left and instead they're going to be facing upwards.
>>
>this thread
I am so fucking amused I can't play properly anymore.
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>>145768378
Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.

No one said wasd was uncomfortable or cramped your hands. We are talking about the arrow keys specifically. You claiming to use the keyboard for 15 years is neither relevant nor slightly meaningful for the argument.

Also, 15 years is literally nothing. You are basically either 18 or 19 years of age and are just shit posting at this point. Piss off youngin
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>>145767971
stay salty yurobabby
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>>145768506
>kite bosses on missions
You're literally the worst kind of player, you know that?
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>this is what happened when playing the game is less fun than arguing on the internet
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>>145768668
>Also, 15 years is literally nothing. You are basically either 18 or 19 years of age and are just shit posting at this point. Piss off youngin
>get a PC at the age of 3 or 4
>20xx kid calls others youngin
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>>145768650
>can't input simple commands into the computer like clicking or pressing buttons
>it's mousemodes fault

You're 100% retarded, I can imagine you sitting there drooling like the mouthbreather that you are, just hovering your mouse around and wondering why nothings happening.
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>>145768652

Wow anon-kun you must be easily amused

I miss old /tosg/, I really hope next week's patch is good enough to bring it back!
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>>145768763
What is the problem with that?
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>>145768504
The controls and keybinds are bad and I'm too lazy to change them for something comfortable that suits me. Keyboard is just easier to get used to.

I know that's just my problem, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks the same
>>
Koenig
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>>145768763
You do know archers have to small scale kite and dodge tank missions because their DPS is too high for swordies to ever retain aggro right?

t. Fletcher
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>>145768846
You're keeping up this line of argument? You do realize how stupid this makes you look, right?

Try running up right next to a boss with your character facing completely to left/right and cast Ice Pike. Watch as Ice Pike somehow ends up going diagonally upwards instead.
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>>145768668
The irony. The original post never said anything about wasd OR arrow keys specifically
>>145767339
>>145767390

Only that his hands cramped when using the keyboard, to which I replied I never had this problem for the past 15 years.

>Also, 15 years is literally nothing. You are basically either 18 or 19 years of age and are just shit posting at this point. Piss off youngin
Try 30. I only started playing computer games around 15. Back then everyone was an outdoor kid. We did both outdoors AND indoors, but a kid like you probably wouldn't understand. Or maybe you were one of those fatties who never went out in the first place.
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>>145768958
Konig
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>>145768908
>>145768975
You literally don't have to kite anything. You can stand in front of a boss and move side to side while dodging everything.

Kiting the boss lowers your group's DPS because you move the boss out of deployment magic like Frost Cloud.
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>>145769113
>Kiting the boss lowers your group's DPS because you move the boss out of deployment magic like Frost Cloud.
It does not. Cause i kite them in a very small circle and they barely move.
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>>145768981
m8 i would never play something as shitty as cryo
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>>145769203
>Cause i kite them in a very small circle
And force you party to move since you keep turning the boss towards them.
Good job.
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>/rog/ is somehow more civilized
>/terag/ is less degenerate
>/mbg/ is more alive
I woke up on the wrong side of the bed and fell into an alternate universe.

where do I stop aku
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>>145769113
You do know you can kite in a small range right? QS3 in particular will do that if they don't suck.
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>>145768668
>Also, 15 years is literally nothing. You are basically either 18 or 19 years of age and are just shit posting at this point. Piss off youngin
>been using the computer since 3 to 4 years old
>been using the computer since 3 to 4 years old
>been using the computer since 3 to 4 years old
>been using the computer since 3 to 4 years old
>been using the computer since 3 to 4 years old
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>>145769278
And?
They have to evade AoE attacks anyways. and im not even a 'Tank'.
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>>145768908
I have an archer with almost 0 con and I will still try to keep the boss still rather than kiting if I take aggro. All the siau boss attacks are dodgeable.
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Stop fighting!
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>>145769298
All deployment magic isn't gigantic.
Look at Clerics. Cure, Zaibas, etc. all have a much smaller range than Frost Cloud/Flame Ground.

>>145769384
>They have to evade AoE attacks anyways.
And you're making them dodge attacks they wouldn't have to otherwise if you just move side to side.
Are you really this dumb? I shouldn't ever have to dodge the Poata's swipes as a Cleric, but idiots like you force me to.
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>>145769410
same here. my archer has 20 con total >>145769203
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>>145768668
>We are talking about the arrow keys specifically.
>We are talking about the arrow keys specifically.
>We are talking about the arrow keys specifically.
>We are talking about the arrow keys specifically.
>We are talking about the arrow keys specifically.

>>145767390
>Except when your hands cramp on you and you're forced to stop playing for a while until they stop trying to kill themselves

>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
KEKED
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>>145768890
>I miss old /tosg/
Yea me too!
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>>145769515
>Cleric
Oh haha, instead of shitting this thread full with your Salt, you should thank me for carrying your healslut ass.
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>>145768890
I miss ICBT1&2 /tosg/, the current one is just shit
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>>145769635
Lewd Hammy!
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>>145769635
>look I posted my character being lewd again teheee xdd
Why are you such a shameless whore?
Do you need a dick to suck or something
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>>145768668
>Also, 15 years is literally nothing
>he's a basement dweller that has been doing nothing but sitting his fatass on his chair since he was born
>he's actually proud of it enough to tell other people off
Lose weight senpai.
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>>145769698
I shouldn't have to move as I'm setting up Fireballs as a Pyro.
I shouldn't have to move as I get in close for Barrage as a Ranger.
I shouldn't have to stop doing what I'm doing to dodge the tree's long range tornado clap because you're twirling the boss around like a retard.

That better for you, shitposter?
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>>145769635
Cannoneer master outfit when?
I need muh black kneesocks.
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Is this game dead yet?
>>
Where does the superior royal Mage gloves recipe drop? Help a brother out.
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>>145769760
Yeah, man. Let's go back to a bunch of people posting dumb images and shitposting about "good builds."
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>>145768668
Overweight neckbeard boys should leave this thread
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elememe build where
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>>145769950
Blue Hohen Mage in Ibre plateau
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>>145769841
Still not my problem if you need to be carried by a 'Tank'.

my Pyro has no problems in missions too. maybe you need to gid gud.
bet you also rage when ppl dont pull bosses in other room like then shitters most ppl are.
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>>145770060
wiz3elem3warlock1

quickcast 5
frost cloud 5
dark theurge 5
pole of agony 5

you're welcome
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>>145769967
Oh yeah an addition of tera tier posting and dramaqueen shitflinging added to that mix really spiced things up.
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Has anyone tried the Rune Caster BUILD OF KINGS?
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Angry out!
Cute in!
Angry out!
Cute in!
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>>145770247
Thank you, you're a true patriot.
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>>145770352
No but I've seen it kill dungeon bosses and mission bosses in seconds
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>>145770276
>People pulling bosses into the room
I never understood this, it just makes the run take longer
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>>145769967
>shitposting about "good builds."
>iCBT1&2
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>>145768668
>young faggot who got to play his daddy's computer
>never had to parttime to buy his own computer to play games
>calls other people youngin
GOT BTFO SO HARD HE HASN'T MADE A SINGLE REPLY SINCE. HANG YOURSELF FATTY.
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>>145770437
Good, good.
I'm thinking of trying it seriously.
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>>145770276
>my Pyro has no problems in missions too.
Do you understand the difference between a DPS loss and "problems?" You can beat missions even with some idiot spinning the boss around in a circle or not keeping it in one place. It just takes a significantly longer amount of time.

>bet you also rage when ppl dont pull bosses in other room like then shitters most ppl are.
No. I "rage" when people do just that since any party with at least a since Cleric/Linker can easily fight multiple bosses.

>>145770456
>it just makes the run take longer
Not when your entire group is full of shitters who do no damage or people who can't survive without a Cleric.
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>>145770537
Calm down, though
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>>145770537
I'd fuck you. with my dick in your orifices.
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>>145770276
If you're good enough to keep the boss still while doing damage, you're contributing a lot more to your party's DPS than if you kited. This shouldn't be hard to understand. The closer you get to the siau bosses, the easier it is to dodge.
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>>145770537
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>>145768147
>>145768668
>can't even read the posts he's replying to
>tells other peole they lack reading comprehension
This site is restricted to those 18+. Leave.
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>>145770286
>pole of agony 5
Nice misinfo, get invocation 5 for the attribute instead.
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>>145770537
The other alchemist in this thread with the brunette hair, hanaming hat and antlers is much cuter than you. Just saying.
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what is a hanaming gem worth?
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>>145770576
>any party with at least a since Cleric/Linker can easily fight multiple bosses.
Dont even need that. cmon
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>>145770352
Is there a class stronger than Runecaster?

And I’m referring to Wiz3Cro3 Runecaster with a pocket monk3 and Thauma3 slave (all maxed attributes) equipped with his +15 Superior Corona Rod and control of the weapon-switching and Audra and Ice-wall gem, a complete lvl 19 Icewall, with a lvl 280 full INT Sadhu DNA implanted in his stats so he can perform a full Icewall combo with max stats and every tile hit .
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>>145770629
No, FUCK YOU LEATHERMAN
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>>145770747
7k~ monster gem exp
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>>145770712
Not him and I know nothing about warlocks, but what about skipping evil sacrifice and just getting pole/invocation/dt to 5?
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>>145770764
Read the whole post, retard.
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>>145770712
>get invocation 5
Yes

>for the attribute
that is total shit
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>>145770845
Evil Sacrifice is nice, though
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>>145770841
and in money? somebody wants to buy mine for 250k and I just don't know, because nobody else is making offers
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Would you Koenig Koenigs Koenigs?
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Wheres a good place to farm some thick chains?
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>>145770791

LVL 19 ICE WALL (divine might, gems, audra)

19 TILES, EACH TILE CAN BE HIT 38 TIMES

EACH TILE RELEASES 3 SHARDS ON HIT

EACH SHARD DOES ****DAMAGE FORMULA***** DAMAGE

19 x 38 x 3 = 2166

2166 * DAMAGE FORMULA

FULL INT LVL.280 RUNE CASTER = 650 INT
+ 15 SUPERIOR CORONA ROD = ~600 MATK (with Squirebuff)
A BUNCH OF OTHER RANDOM MATK/ELEDAMAGE SHIT= ~300
FULL INT LVL 280 SADHU 3 TRANSMIT PRANA = 650 INT

650 + 600 + 300 + 650 = 2200

RUNE OF ICE = 300%

2200 * 3 = 6600

QUICKCAST = 150%

6600 * 1.5 = 9900

DAMAGE FORMULA total = 9900 (who cares about mdef)

2166 * 9900 = 21,443,400 DAMAGE PER ICEWALL COMBO

20+ MILLION DAMAGE
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>arde dagger for 960k
y/n?
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>>145768958
>>145769054
>>
>wants to have monk tiddies
>doesn't want to be koenig 2.0
What do?
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>>145771069
Anything with the name Stoulet iirc.
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>>145771013
Depends on server.
Around 300k on varena minus socketing expenses
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>>145771160
Just be like the orsha whore, people only want her for monk tiddies and then forget about her after they're done.
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>>145770791
>>145771121
notto dis shitto again.
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>145770703
>145770497
>145770052
>145769830
>145769541
>145769345
It looks like /rog/ is trying really hard for his (You)s today.
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>>145771013
>>145771281
Varena has fucked up economy, don't take advice from this faggot.
But unfortunately I don't know either, but since monster gems are so rare, I wouldn't sell it for under a mil.
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>>145771121
you forgot thauma buffs nerd
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>>145771281
Varena got fucked hard by chink RMTs and botters. It is its own economy and not valid for any kind of pricecheck.
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>>145763552
I think Telsiai bots are programmed to sell mithril to 230k.

>tfw brought 2 230k mithrils in impulse that I don't need
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>>145771802
>varena confirmed for shitty server no one gives a flying fuck about
This just proves that f2p is fucking shit and they should make the game a buy-in.
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>>145771824
This has been going on for a while apparently. I bought 3 mith for 230k almost a while ago for my peta, and recently I saw someone say in shout they bought mith for the same amount from the market, and today I saw another one in the market for 230k.
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Do Cataphracts have an attribute that stops the knockback of that one big aoe skill
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>>145772230
Yes. Any Cataphract that you see that's knocking everything away is a shitter and you should tell them as such.

While you're at it, make sure to tell off any swordie who refuses to tank in missions.
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>>145772041
>varena confirmed for shitty server no one gives a flying fuck about
You do understand this was the only server to receive additional server space out of all the servers right due to how crowded it was?
Varena is the only server that IMC cares about due to the income mainly being from there instead e.g. dedpedia or dedsha.

It is however correct varena has a fucked economy because its the most active so all the bots go there, its also why the silver there costs the most to rmt buy (6 shekels vs 4 shekels). Lots of activity is its own bane
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>>145772320
>Varena is the only server that IMC cares about due to the income mainly being from there
more bots != more income
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>>145771480
STILL GOT PROVEN WRONG LIKE A FUCKING RETARDED 20XX BABY
>No one said wasd was uncomfortable or cramped your hands. We are talking about the arrow keys specifically
>>145767339
>>145767390
>NOTHING ABOUT ARROW KEYS HERE SON
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
>Im more commenting on your lack of reading comprehension.
KILL YOURSELF YOUNGIN
ALSO NOT ALL OF THOSE POSTS ARE ACTUALLY MINE
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>>145772230
It costs like 70k to learn so new catas generally don't buy it until they realize the knockback is annoying in parties.
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>>145772320
>You do understand this was the only server to receive additional server space out of all the servers right due to how crowded it was?
>the free server is the only server they care about due to the income mainly being from free players

What? When did they get additional server space?

Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

This is the server that all the free players went to because they refuse to spend money to buy in to the game.

Are you some delusion player stuck on varena who's trying to convince himself his server choice was the right thing he did?
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>>145771591
>>145771013
I bought one for 500k on Klaipeda couple weeks ago. Didn't feel like a particularly good deal to me but I was too lazy to farm it myself.
Hanamings are piss easy to kill tens of thousands off so most people would just rather farm the gem themselves than lose potential on their gloves.
>>
God damn. Orsha people fucking suck
>>
What's the best way to confess to someone?
I don't know how to tell this person that I really like them.
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>>145772404
And why do you think there are so many bots at varena anon? Why do you think silver at varena costs the most out of all servers?
Its because its the most populated server by far and more players does = more income.

Remember launch back when every single varena fag was whining about how laggy it was and the 1000+ queues?
Thats because the server is so filled with players anon.
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>>145771151
That's expensive
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>>145772696
You're a faggot. Say exactly that.
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>>145772714
>Its because its the most populated server by far and more players does = more income.
No. More players doesn't mean more income for IMC.
It may mean more income for gold sellers, but why would IMC care about that? Do you realize how stupid your argument is?
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>>145772595
>I don't read patch notes at all
They specifically stated they gave varena more server space to deal with server issues back when people were whining about the 1000+ queues.
Also are you retarded anon?
When f2p was released, every server except telsai was open anon.
Klaipedia and the rest aren't some exclusive non f2p server, they had their share of new players too, its just that varena was the big cash cow whilst all the other regions didn't really manage to reel in much players.
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>EVERYTHING is being added next maintenance.
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>>145772801
>more players doesn't mean more income for IMC.
what the fuck am I reading
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>>145772714
Because it is the only completely new server with no early access players beind ahead of all the new players you retard.
New server = new economy = better for bots to completely fuck it up
Why do you think your economy is completely fucked?
Did you actually think free players who went to varena because they're too cheap to buy in are actually spending more money on the game than compared to the other servers? Are you so fucking delusional?

Varena is a shithole with all the free shitters and worse scumbags you could ever think of are stuck in. The only people who think otherwise are people from varena. Your kind isn't welcomed here, fuck off.
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Help me decide, /tosg/.

I'm not sure that Pelt2 is worth taking over something else. The problem is, there's not much that can replace it.
The first thought that came to mind was taking Sword2 for Restrain, but is Restrain really worth it?

Here are my two builds so far:
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1131aaee.233a435965.15243541.112a3a41517185.152a496175

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133aaee.23334554.1a29354165.112a3a41517185.152a496175

I'm not past the point of possibly taking Highlander or Barb instead of Sword, but a single circle of each doesn't seem worthwhile.
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>>145772801
>No. More players doesn't mean more income for IMC.
Am I missing something?
Do you know how the f2p model works at all?
I can't tell if this is some kind of advanced trolling or just simple retardation.
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>>145773106
Just go pelt
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>>145772984
>We expect to implement some changes on the Korean servers as soon as next week.

Yes! Everything is being added to Korean servers!
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>>145770714
T-thanks!
Why are the antlers on top of the flower pin... it wasn't like this before. D:
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>>145772920
>They specifically stated they gave varena more server space to deal with server issues back when people were whining about the 1000+ queues.
I don't remember them specifically giving varena more serer space. I remember it was every server got improvements to mission queues.

>When f2p was released, every server except telsai was open anon.
Except it's the only server which was completely new and had no players being ahead because of early access you retard. See >>145773039
It is the only obvious choice for free players.
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>>145773037
You do realize this is a free to play game, right? People don't have pay a dime to play the game.

>>145773130
Not to mention, more server load could just mean more bots.
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>>145772801
>More players doesn't mean more income for IMC.
genius
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>>145771121
I was reading your post. began math and writing a legit reply but then
>(who cares about mdef)
oh cmon anon, you didnt even put any effort in all that.

kill your lazy self pls
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>>145770714
>>145773191
Stop replying to yourself ugly.
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>>145773106
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#1133aaee.23334554.1a263a4163.112a3a41517185.112a3a46516171
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>>145773039
Not him but the reason I stay on Varena is because IRL friends are there. I would migrate to Telsiai in a heartbeat when there is server transfer. Hell, I would even buy my friends transfer cost.
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>>145773157
But, why, Anon?
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>>145772801
>No. More players doesn't mean more income for IMC.
>>145773210
>
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>>145773106
Barb 1 gives you crit and stun.
Hoplite 1 gives crit,block and good pierce damage.

Pelt 2 is shit.
Sword 2 is shit.
Highlander 1 rank best thing is the crit, which you won't benefit from.
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>>145772920
>When f2p was released, every server except telsai was open anon.
Uhhh anon, it was the ONLY SEA server that was open, hence it was the ONLY SEA server that was available to free players who refused to buy in to telsiai. How am I wrong?
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>>145772984
>we're making boss monster cards unobtainable through quests because fuck you
>we recognize that Swordsmen are shit, so we'll be working on some balancing changes in the korean version
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>>145773360
>Hoplite 1 gives crit,block and good pierce damage.
This isn't the case. Finestra doesn't stay active when you swap to a rapier.
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>>145773360
Nevermind, just saw you went Fencer, so it's Barb or burst.
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>>145773387
Hi lad! why are you here?
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>>145773260
I didn't add Thauma buffs and I think my additional damage from matk/eledamage enchants/gear is on the very low side anyways

You can say it cancels each other out for even something like Rexipher which has 800 mdef
>>
>more free players who refuse to spend money on the game means more income for IMC
What part of this can you people not understand?

These are the FREE PLAYERS who REFUSED to buy into telsiai before it became locked.
And they had ample time to buy in before it was locked. There was an announcement and they gave you leeway to buy in before they locked it, so anyone who went to varena vehemently refused to spend money at all.

What makes you think they would spend money after they started playing?
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>>145770906
Invocation 5 + the attribute makes you consume lesser charges for each kill, so you can kill more mobs with invocation.
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>>145773210
The same could be said of EVERY server anon.
People don't have to pay a dime to play the game.
>muh early access elitism
So every server with f2p is scum now?

>>145773210
Why do you think there are more bots anon? Because there's more players they need to serve out their shekels for anon. Basic cause and effect, theres nothing stopping bots from starting on any server they want, they choose varena because theres more players to service.

Varena is IMC's cash cow, do you think they give two shits about klaipedia with its 1k people compared to Varenas 5k?
Even if 1/100 in Klaipedia is a whale, Varena only needs 1/500 to be equal with most probabilities favouring varena.

If you don't care about Varena than sure don't care but IMC does.
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>>145773467
I don't understand this meme
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>>145773387
>in the korean version
This is the part I love. They specifically stated the korean version.
And everyone knows itos hasn't been getting much ktos stuff at all. What little we do get, comes in trickles.
And people are still getting hyped. Can't wait for their tears of disappointment.
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>>145773292
Thanks, Anon, but I'm not sure 10 points into Sept is worth it since I'm going high/full dex and Sept mainly scales off of physical attack.

Is Esquive Toucher really worth it? I've heard people say it's terrible.
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>>145773548
Is this your first F2P mmo?
Serious question.
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>>145772745
Trading house price in my server seems to reach 1mil in equilibrium unless there's some sort of non-auction house sales I'm missing out on
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>>145773560
wat?
that attribute is pretty shit
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>>145773548
>I don't understand how f2p mmos work at all
Please at least understand how whales work before you meme
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>>145773661
No but the difference with this is that we have early access players who are already cash cows vs free players who refuse to buy in.
Now tell me who would potential be spending more money on the game?

Don't forget now, the argument was which server brought in more income. It's obviously not the varena server. It's telsiai.
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>>145773191
>>145770714
blatant self posting

kill yourself
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>>145773801
What time does the narwhal bacon?
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>>145773880
Fuck off with your shitposting
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>>145773801
Read >>145773850
It's not about how f2p mmos work you retard. It's about which server brings in more income, and that's obviously not going to be the free player servers compared to the early access servers where all the cash cows went.
Did you forget the actual argument?
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>>145773928
Hello underage newfag. You need to be at least 18 to post here.
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>>145773191
Wow, you're cute. Give us a kiss, honey.
>>
This Q&A is retarded.
>>
>varena shitter thinks his server brings in more money for IMC compared to the early access servers which required you to buyin therefore people who already are willing to spend money
>tries to make arguments about more free players = more income while disregarding this obvious fact
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>>145774027
Good thing we are more retarded than then.
>>
What is it about this game that brings out the angry, autistic retards like >>145773859 and >>145773928 ?
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>>145773661
>>145773801
Early access servers with early access players AND free players obviously bring in more money than varena which is solely a free player only server. Stop being delusional.
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>>145773850
>already cash cows
No anon, thats not how f2p works. You aren't relying on the hundred or so spenders that spend fifty shekels, you're relying on the 1-2 that spend tens of THOUSANDS shekels.

More people = more chances at getting that fat juicy whale.
More people = more word to mouth = more people for whales to feel "superior" to = etc.

F2p isn't getting funded by the few hundred "loyal" early access players giving 20 shekelroos to the mmo company, f2p is getting funded by the very few whales that spend thousands upon thousands and more people equal more chances to fish a whale.
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>>145774064
The early access servers which lost most of their players, you should add. I don't play on SEA, but the only server that consistently matches Varena is Telsiai
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>>145774178
Spoken like someone who has never played an mmo in his life.
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>>145774178
>and more people equal more chances to fish a whale
Yeah. I'm sure all those poor countries play on SEA servers are really likely to have a larger number of whales.

You're an idiot, my man.
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>>145774125
It's because the game went f2p, that we got all these shitters. I told you guys, IMC should've made the game buy-in like black desert.

Telsiai was buy-in only for a while after the f2p release and it was still comfy as fuck.

That went all down the shithole when they opened it up and then closed all the servers down later cause they were too retarded to realise the game wasn't ready to be released to f2p.
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>>145774161
Not when varena outnumbers early access servers more than 5:1.
If the other servers had similar player count to varena than sure you can say they earn more but with varena having the vast majority of players, the cash cow is obviously Varena.

F2P isn't about everyone supporting the game by a little bit, its about the few people dumping their whole paychecks into the game aka the whales.
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>>145774281
What part of F2P business model you don't understand? Go read on how F2P mobile games get their revenue.
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Why does the game force you back into Set 1 in controller mode when you move or attack?
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>I just bought an arde dagger and it now has 5/7 potential
It won't matter r-right?
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>>145774178
What makes you think the hundred of so spends that spend fifty shekels aren't the ones spending thousands of shekels?

Your fucked up logic implies the people who bought in are one time buyers only and that the free players who come in later will spend thousands.

Are you fucking stupid? People who are willing to spend money to buy-in are more likely to spend thousands than the fucking free monkeys who can't afford $20 dollars.

What the fuck makes you think someone who can't even spend $20 dollars to buy-in will spend thousands on the game? Fuck off with your delusional logic you free shitter.
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>>145774307
oh great

more boogeymans
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>>145774451
Because you didn't choose controller mode
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>>145774451
Make sure controlling method is set to controller and not auto.
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Any good /tosg/ Squire you can recommend? I haven't seen Pios lately
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>>145773859
>>145773291
Uhm...

>>145774015
No, that's lewd. You can buy my pots though, those were crafted with cute. :3c
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>>145774468
No because you don't upgrade your Arde dagger. It's just there for the fire property attack.

>>145774532
Ah fuck. You're right. I have it set to Auto for some reason.
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>>145774364
No, you're missing it, too. Until you prove to me otherwise, Telsiai is the cash cow. An early access server which still matches Varena in activity. I do not see a single way in which Telsiai is not the probable cash cow for IMC right now. It's the single server which takes both of your arguments under its wing. An early access server, albeit later than Klaipedia, Orsha and Fedimian, and still with a higher activity than those three. It has people willing to pay, as proven, yet numbers to back it.

Prove to me that Varena is the cash cow taking this into account
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>>145774468
nope why would you enchant an arde?
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>>145774292
>australia and new zealand
>he thinks whales change depending on how rich a company is
Chinese people are on average significantly more poorer than americans yet go read up on how much the chinese happily dump into mmos.
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>>145774178
If there is someone willing to spend thousands on the game, he would've already bought in for FUCKING $10 YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT.
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>>145774468
It doesn't, because upgrading an arde does jack shit
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>>145774578
get on my fucking dick you dirty fucking slut and ride me like the jew faggot you are
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centurion is just murder suicide, right?
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>>145774292
You would be surprised how many Chinese whales playing on SEA.
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>>145774665
ign?
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Requesting basic Flecher build, since the cookie cutter builds aren't here anymore.

Stat distribution is always full dex, right?
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>>145774620
So it is your first f2p MMO
Welcome!
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>>145774718
give me your alchemists name you fucking slut ill jam my dirty cock in ur magnum opus
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>>145774578
I'd love to buy your pots, but sadly im broke now. can i pay you with by filling your womb with a lot of cum ? #noLewd
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>>145774713
What I want to know is why Centurion is in the game but isn't.

Did they realize how stupid the class actually is?
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>>145774364
Telsiai son. We have both cash cows who bought in and free players and we're just as crowded as varena. Telsiai will always be the main SEA server. Fuck off you secondary SEA shit. Your dirty free server will never be better than ours. WE HAVE BOTH TYPES OF PLAYERS.
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>We do plan on making Monster Cards, Monster Gems and regular Gems sharable through the Team Storage in a future patch. Along with this change, we plan to make Boss Monster Cards become unobtainable through quests and will be deleted.
>will be deleted
What did they mean by this?
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>>145774741
10 Magic arrow, rest is whatever
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>>145774578
Cute juice?
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>>145774770
>act tough
>too pussy to post ign
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>>145774364
And the few people who are willing to dump their whole paychecks into the game, are already playing on early access servers YOU STUPID FUCKING MONKEY.

>>145774749
You are the dumbest motherfucker ever.
>person willing to spend thousands on the game
>is not willing to spend $10 to play as early as possible
Is THIS your first f2p mmo?
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>>145774741
archer2>ranger1>scout1>fletcher3
Probably one of the most cookie cutter archer builds for iToS.
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>>145772696
>tfw secretly in-love with the guild master's wife

wew lads. So this is the feeling of being cucked.
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>>145774514
How can you miss the point this much?
see>>145773604
It doesn't matter if 1/100 of telsai is a whale, so long as 1/500 in varena is a whale than varena has equal whales and with how probability and likelihood works, Varena probably has alot more whales than telsai.

>>145774584
Has telsai ever had 1000+ queues and 20+min lags due to how many players it has?
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>>145774889
That's not how retards who spend money in MMOs work
Also your emphasis was wrong, it should've been "is this YOUR first f2p mmo?"
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>>145774871
I'll find you anyway ya fucking slut cunt
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Forget it guys, it's just a salty free varena nigger who got stuck on varena and is mad about it so he's making retarded posts. Telsiai will always be the top income server in itos.

Those of you who were too cheap to buy in and went to varena, just restart on telsiai if they ever open it up again. Varena will always be filled with cancer. Their completely fucked up economy proves this.
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>>145774851
Well, I'm not a Flecher yet, I need to be useful before that as well.
>>145774926
I didn't knew about the scout variation, I thought the basic one was A2 R2 F3
Can I have a skill build?
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>>145775104
Okay? There's nothing wrong with this.
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>>145774979
yes, that was a big point in Telsiai's Comfy players posting in this thread. They have had server issues due to strain probably more consistently than any other server besides early Klaipedia and Varena now. But again, look at the two servers consistently. Telsiai matches Varena in activity, but it's got the status as an early access server behind it. I see absolutely no way it can be outdone by Varena, but I'm willing to be proven wrong
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>>145775104
>how to ruin a good build with autism.jpg
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>>145775164
LOL
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>>145774979
You're the one not getting the point you fucking retard. Varena HAS NO WHALES. The whales are all already on telsiai.

Varena is full of free players who refused to buy in to telsiai and there are alot of cheap people, that's why varena has so many players.
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>>145775104
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>lvl 213 dragooncuck
>i can card to 221
>i just want r7 its literally all i care about
kill me
i have pelt but i just want this to end
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Y'All motherfuckers should go read on F2P mobile games revenue analysis before arguing because it's
>man with none of fact vs man with half fact
right now
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>>145775227
Anon, those are only 6 ranks. There are currently 7 ranks in the game.
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>>145775314
Rune caster is shit for wiz3 ele3. Literally noobtrap you dumb shit.
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>>145775243
>Varena HAS NO WHALES
>whales
is this a new meme or...?
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>>145774979
>Has telsai ever had 1000+ queues and 20+min lags due to how many players it has?
Yes it has. You're not the only overpopulated server. Stop being delusional, you're not a special server because you came in second.

But what the fuck do I care anyways? You're stuck on your shitty server, thank god.
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>>145775297
people just don't get the term
>chasing the whale
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itt: people who don't understand the effects of having more people

The more people the "whales" have to feel superior over, the more whales are willing to spend.
The more people there are in a server, the more likelihood of word to mouth helping spread the game and lure a friend whale
The more people on a server, the more etc.

The more people there are, the more effective it is in getting a whale. Holy shit this simple concept is completely lost on people.
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>>145775297
Which one of those men are you, Anon?
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>>145775292
did you do the maps after alemeth?
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>>145775292
Just reroll something fun instead
Use dragoon to rush 130 or 200
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>>145775425
no, are they really good exp? if so i can just card to 220 and continue questing
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>>145775145
All moderately funded fletchers now have enough DPS and attributes to get a cube if they find a world boss first, so movement speed is literally all that matters for world bossing. Scout gives movement speed.

Dullahan is different, but you still get 30 more hits from flare shot with low execution time in your rotation which makes up for it at the speed that dulla is killed in klai. You also get scout outfit, which needless to say you will be wearing because fletcher outfit is a bag of dicks.
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>>145775357
It's better than Warlock for PvP, Anon. There's a reason why Runecaster is taken in kToS.
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>>145775292
just card to 221. do all quests up to 232. use card and you will be R7 (or very close. then do some 100%maps and missions)
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>>145775396
>The more people there are, the more effective it is in getting a whale. Holy shit this simple concept is completely lost on people.
So that's telsiai, right.
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>>145775538
fuck off redditnigger.
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>>145775538
>Runecaster
>PvP

>Ele
>PvP

This is why you're retarded and why people call you retarded on this thread daily.
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>>145775292
Grind for a while, then card. I usually card to R7 from 221, without touching Alemeth's quests. Then have fun with R7 for a while before questing again
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>It's a 4 Orsha girls and 1 Klai boy episode
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>>145775504
>movement speed is all that matters
Except it's really not. It's about team coordination.
1 single person looking for a world boss would really depend on his luck in the direction he decides to look for.
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>>145775489
card to 220, quest then card to 224 and grind truffles. alementh and evac are good fun, really. It's storage and abbey that are a chore.
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Someone stop this meme argument by posting server percentages/numbers for fucks sake.
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>>145775683
only boys like boys
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>>145775581
>>145775625
Two words: Freezing Sphere
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>>145775746
Fuck off redditnigger.
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>people in heat debate about a server they don't even play on
Titanium kek
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>>145775817
I'm on telsiai son.
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legitimate question, has Telsiai ever had the super long varena queues other anons are talking about?
because if not >>145775396 seems right with his logic
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>>145775773
Alright, but enjoy getting killed instantly by a wizard shooting freezing spheres at you.
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>>145775504
I'm not looking for world bosses right now, altho would be nice to have later on. I want something with good AoE or overall damage to level as a group.
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>>145775916
It was literally the reason Telsiai was closed.
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>>145775851
So how comfy actually is over there?
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>>145775951
Fuck off redditnigger.
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Help me anons

Serpentine vs Dragontooth

Gae Bulg vs Soar

how do I spend 15 skill points? and technically what is my strongest skill?
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>>145775697
The team coordination doesn't really need to be mentioned because that much is fucking obvious for boss waves.

All that matters is how fast one pair of your fletcher and their handheld chrono can get to the boss after it is discovered.
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>>145775974
Wasn't telsai closed to f2p from the very start?
It was a p2p exclusive server from the start wasn't it? So whats this about it closing?
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>>145775916
Why did you think telsiai was still closed in the first place when every open server was open for f2p? IMC even said it themselves, telsiai would remain closed due to overpopulation.
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>>145773769
30% extra damage is not shit. Invocation has no attribute therefore the 30% is more significant.
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>SEA monkey servers are overflooded

>better close down the NA and EU servers too
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>>145775973
Fletchers have garbage AoE and are expensive to fund to have even decent AoE.

If you're looking for something easy to level, Fletcher isn't it.
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>>145775984
actually is comfy very good
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>>145775973
Then you don't want fletcher, since it's not an AoE class. It's a class that erases bosses and single targets from existence.
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>>145775984
People are actually friendly, and talk during dungeons or missions.
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>>145776105
>expensive
>cheapest fucking attributes in the game
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>>145776086
fucking this, sea monkeys ruin everything, whether they be from shitsiai or vareshit, they inevitably ruin everything
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>>145774292
You probably should read about the Chinese whales.

Yes, on average they are poorer. But the number of rich guy they have is higher (bigger gap between the wealth and the poor)..
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>>145776064
We currently have an overload of players on Telsiai, so we've decided to open a new server for Telsiai first, on the day we release the game as free-to-play. The name of the new SEA server is Varena, and new SEA players will be able to start only on this server. Access to Telsiai will temporarily become exclusive to players who have started playing on it before the game's F2P release

>We currently have an overload of players on Telsiai, so we've decided to open a new server for Telsiai first, on the day we release the game as free-to-play.
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>>145775973
>AoE
Then you go sapper+wugushi
archer1>ranger1>sapper2>flecther3 miiiiight work as jack-of-all-trade DPS archer, but you will miss critical buff so it's only viable for STR focused archer.
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>>145776205
Anon... please don't be this stupid.
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>>145776210
>americunt mad his server population is drying out
Admit it, we own your game.
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>>145776079
Did you test it?
When i did, it was pretty shit. And i didnt saw patchnotes changing that attribute.
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what's a good fencer build?
i want something that's pretty self sufficient so no full tank memes
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>>145776216
Well it seems like the Telsiai arguers have it unless the Varena arguers can prove Varena has more people.
Still don't have proof Telsiai had the insane population of Varena (who had supposedly 1000 man waiting queues) but I doubt anyone saved stuff from that long ago anyways.
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>>145776364
Self sufficient? The non swordsman build.
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>>145776205
Anon, I think you might be thinking of QS3 that has literally no attributes. Fletcher is the complete opposite.
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>>145775973
Fletcher has one niche and that's targets with lots of HP that stand perfectly still. They are hot garbo on anything else. Best Archer AoE is Archer2 Sapper2 Wugu2 Cannon but there is loads of other builds that are good
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>>145776446
1000 bots
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>>145774979
Do you ever have 70 to 100 players on every competitive (Dullahan/Cerberus etc) WB hunt for 24 hours?

Players literally couldn't enter the channel due to it being full everytime.
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What are all the falcon cucks gonna do once they fix circling on iToS?
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>>145776591
What exactly did they "fix?"
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>>145776591
>iToS
>Fixes
nice meme
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>>145776478
>archer aoe
I love this meme, just make an elementalist.

The only role archers excel at is single target, if you're gonna play the class at least play your strengths instead of being third choice after all the wizards were asked but they were too busy playing overwatch.
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>>145776591
>fix
It's working as intended.
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>>145776446
Telsiai is overpopulated by real players.

Varena is overpopulated by bots.
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>>145776364
sword1>pelt1>barb3>fencer2

Core skills are pain barrier, gungho, concentrate, swash buckling, seism, cleave, helm splitter (its one of your best and only strike damage even after you get attaque coq), warcry (after c3 barb it starts becoming really really good), frenzy (only after c3 barb due to needing attribute), pouncing, attaque coq, sept, lunge, prep (1 pointer) and composee.

You will rape most bosses and will be fine otherwise even getting into parties due to having pelt.

Your dps isn't that amazing but its not that bad either.
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>95,7% explored of level 90 dungeon
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>>145776105
>>145776169
>>145776229
>>145776478


Oh, I see. Thanks for the help.
I guess I'll looking for something else then, I really don't like Scout. And I'm more interested in general PvE, not really boss hunting.
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>>145776836
A D D O N
D
D
O
N
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>>145776759
>warcry
>frenzy
>good
I love this meme.
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>>145776464
It costs like 50 times less to level Fletcher attributes than say Elementalist.

Not to mention you only have one fucking ability to level so you have a no-brainer retard proof way of getting wb cubes.

Go fuck yourself. Anyone who says "oh my god my fletcher, oh my god, so hard, manamana, so expensive" fuck you cunt.

At least you fucking got an item like Manamana to get you fucking retard.
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>>145776836
REVEAL_ALL_fag()
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>>145776591
circling didn't get fixed aoe def did
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>>145776952
Anon...
Anon...
Did you forget how Fletcher works? You have to make arrows to use Fletcher skills, Anon.

>Not to mention you only have one fucking ability to level
Yeah. If you want to be useless.
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>suffer through a no healer/no tank run of the 190 dungeon
>slow as molasses, have to campfire, no mobbing for the most part, deaths also
>finally finish it and open firelord cube
>get sissel bracelet recipe

sometimes you get rewarded for your struggles, anon. don't give up on the thing you want.
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>>145776664
You are retarded if you really believe that. Elememe AoE is so good because it's Frost element when in the current state of the game all the dps check floors in ET are Fire mobs. That and not having to invest in AoE attack ratio is literally all it is. A properly built and funded Archer can compete on AoE when it comes to general PvE just as well.
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>>145776915
>I don't have barb 3 attributes
Its 1000 attack anon which takes barely any prep work unless for some reason you don't have swashbuckling to get mobs.
Only real downside is when you occasionally forget to animation cancel warcry animation so you occasionally get hit by magic memes.
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>>145776895
I hate that addon, I would just explore alone but lol parties.
>>
uymmy dic
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Swordsman need no buffs, just nerf quickcast (50 damage to 25% pure matk), frost cloud (10 -> 7 seconds, cooldown +10 seconds), swift step, fletcher, running shot uptime
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>>145776915
>warcry and frenzy are bad
t. someone who didn't go barb 3 with his fencer
>>
Selina, a necromancer, was taking a shower after a long and exhausting day farming some items from the monsters at Nahash. She was kinda upset because she spent lots of days at West Siaulai Woods looking for White Ribbon Decoration Boarder unsuccessfully.

Someone suddenly invades the bathroom and grasp her.
Selina, surprised, raises her hand and conjure:

- FLESH CANN…

She interrupts herself after seeing that cute face next her chest. Was her little sister, Cereza, that was crying with a big smile.

- Gheez, Cereza… What’s going on? - said Selina sighing, little worried with that little one.
- Sally! Sally! - yelled Cereza, excited. - I became a Peltasta!! Ha ha ha! - Laughed to herself.
- Um… Nice… - Said Selina, borred.
Cereza started to talk about to be a Fencer in the future and what classes that she could get till there. Meanwhile it, Selina continues taking her shower till…
- Wait!… - Exclaimed Selina. - What’s this smell?
- What smell? - Asked Cereza approuching to Selina.
- UGHHH!! YOU ARE SMELLING KEPAS!!! - Yelled Selina, scrubbing her sister with a soap fiercely.
- OUCH! OUCH! IT HURTS, SALLY! SLOW DOWN! OUUUUCH!
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>>145777130
>>145777248
>Its 1000 attack anon
It's 90 with Warcry max attributed, assuming someone else hasn't already removed all their physical defense, and Frenzy is absolute trash.
Frenzy stacks only activate on auto attack which means you have a very long setup time to get anything worthwhile out of it.

I think you're the ones who don't have Barb3.
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>>145776915

>swash
>warcry
>wow 300 atk bonus

>boss
>frenzy
>few autos while big guns are on cooldown
>wow 200 atk bonus (don't max it)
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>>145777073
Arrows are cheap as fuck to make. On Fletcher you have 3 attributes you need to level and only 1 of them is expensive. Magic Arrow, Barbed, and whatever you picked as your Plate/Ghost filler in the first 4 ranks. Your gear is more expensive than an Elememe's, but that doesn't even begin to approach having to level 6 attributes, 3 of them being R6/7.
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>>145777127
You're a fucking delusional low level retarded archer player who has not even gotten out of his baby diapers who has no fucking idea what the fuck he is talking about. Fletcher is no AoE class and never fucking will be, no matter how many fucking manamanas you retard spend into your attributes you will never get even close to the perfect AoE that is Elementalist. You seem to think only one ability does AoE but all of Elementalist spells are AoE you fucking retarded nigger. You have like, what, one pathetic pea shooter skill that no one even notices you use.

You're nothing but a fucking leech in PvE and even in world bossing you're nothing but a fucking leech.

Fletcher is a leech in this game that needs to be burned off before it kills the entire game. Go kill yourself literal easy mode class picker trying to argue that his build and class combo is a skilled one.
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Who /cute/ here?
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>>145776446
>>145776505
Why do you think there are so many bots in Varena?
Why do you think Varena has the highest RMT prices?
More demand = higher prices.
More demand = more players.
I did not however know that Telsai had the 1000 man waiting queues like other anons said they did so I guess I'm wrong anyways.
>>145776561
Not sure about Cerberus but Dulla is always full even when Varena has been out alot less time than Telsai. Luckily the mafia here is still in the early stages so its just 260-280 fletcher + buffers instead of
>ice wall you away from mob ahahah fags
which I hear is all the rage at other servers.
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>>145776952
>50 times less to level Fletcher attributes than say Elementalist

As an elementalist you literally only have 1 skill that really deserves the lv 100, and only 3~4 more skills that even deserve to be attributed at all.

Fletcher skills also have only 1 skill that really deserves the 100, but the rest are all highly situational but still very good which makes you have to attribute many of them really high as well. Even then, there will be gaps against several enemies in which you'll have to use non-fletcher skills as filler and you have to attribute those as well. The amount of skills a fletcher has to attribute is way larger than that of an elementalist's.

Fletcher mana use is more substantial than mementalist's, there's arrows (negligible costs but adds up over time, inventory weight struggle) and archer has more gear and weapons to worry about because weapon use is also situational (isbality, didel, maga against flying boss, khasti against flying non-boss), etc.

tl;dr: elememes are cheaper and you clearly haven't played both classes to endgame if you think they are. They both excel at different roles and there's no need to compare them to fletchers though.
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>>145777149
>>145776836
you dont need 100% maps at that lvl. just do it when you'r like 120+ or whatever and you can solo it easy.
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Koenig feet!
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>>145777491
Learn to read, I was obviously talking about the Cannon build. Fletchers are complete trash at general PvE.
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>>145777372
>>few autos
>literally need 20 autos to get the most out of Frenzy
???
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>>145777590
100%ing a dungeon doesn't give cards anyway.
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Give me the most braindead class that's actually good.
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>get in a mission
>say hi to everyone
>no one responds
>get to the torch
>ask a party member about his build
>no response
>mission ends
>thank everyone for the run
>no one responds
>everyone leaves
seriously, whats the fucking point of playing an MMO if you don't wanna socialize
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DRAMA FEST
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>>145777613
>maxing frenzy

WOWOWOWOW
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R8 soon
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>>145775538
>>145775746
>>145775951
So far I've only seen theorycrafting but I suspect Ele3-Runecaster isn't half bad in GvG or PvP scenarios with Freezing sphere and meteor/rune of destruction. It's just right now dark theurge is an easy way to output huge damage (which will apparently be nerfed in kToS). I encourage you to try the build out anon, and post results. You might popularize the build in iToS.
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>>145777757
Databased?
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>>145777290
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>>145777668
oh really? didnt notice. in that case
>>145776836
do your autism exploration solo at 2xx when ur bored
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>>145777501
Cute!
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>>145777757
Even at level 5 it's 10 autos.

If you taking Fencer with Barb it's even worse since Fencers don't auto attack as filler.

I not sure what you're arguing about. I'm the person who thinks you should put 0 points into Frenzy.
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>>145777592
Stop using my name to shitpost in the thread.
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>>145776046
hello?
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>>145777724
When the multiplayer content is automated and mindless, that's what you get. Party finder systems in FFXIV and WoW are no different.
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>>145777907
>>145777961
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Thread sure is shit today. Why happened?
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>>145778084
Same
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>>145778084

Most people got locked out of the game via their shitty antivirus and decide to shitpost.
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>>145777571
>not level 280 fletchers with full support
>thinks they're mafia
fucking varena fag

>Telsai had the 1000 man waiting queues like other anons said they did
fucking lies, telsiai never had waiting queues, i'm ashamed fellow telsiai members have to lie just to win an argument
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>>145778084
Americans woke up.
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>>145777724
Why the fuck would you want to talk with people and why would anyone want to talk with you?
Do you talk to yourself when playing a single player game too?
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>>145778051
Every time I see this picture I get a case of the muh dick
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>>145777578
On Fletcher you attribute, in order of priority:
- Magic Arrow (R6)
- Barbed Arrow (R5)
- Multishot / Barrage / Spiral Arrow (R1-4)

On Elementalist you attribute, again in order of priority:
- Frost Cloud (R6)
- Dark Theurge (R7)
- Hail (R4)
- Pole of Agony (R7)
- Magic Missile (R3)
- Electrocute (R4)

It costs easily 4 times as much to level all your Elememe attributes. Fletcher is nice because their abilities are all spamable, meaning you don't have to give a damn about what doesn't give you the highest DPS per action, Elementalist is the complete opposite of that and even using every single one of your abilities you still have downtime. Sure you can say only Frost Cloud matters, which is completely false by the way, but in that case Fletcher is the exact same and only Magic Arrow matters.
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>>145778084
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=484
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>>145777724
>do mission
>"Evening!"
>no one responds
>get to the torch
>"so one by one.. or?"
>no one responds
>fucking lure poata to where they're killing mole
>we all die
>"FUCKING NOOB LA"
>"HOW 2 kik"
>"CHINA NUMBA WAN"
>we finish it after 10 mins
>y-you too
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>>145778005
>>145777724
>mfw I don't talk to party members but I really do appreciate them (except monks I guess)
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>>145778214
Finally an anon who gets it.

Literally everyone I see rerolling an archer in this game is like seeing a player finally just

give

up.

Rerolling archer is like giving up on the game.

Might as well just quit.
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>>145778084
>he doesn't know about the fact next week literally everything people have been hoping for happens
its driven everyone insane
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>havent seen one person for like 2 hours
>run across one
>"Hello Friend"
>he stops walking
>"Hey mate"
>"Goodluck mate!"
>"you too!"

this feel
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>>145778475
Do you really get "feels" over small talk? I would even hardly call that small talk.
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>>145759863
>reach lv 200
>as a F2Pleb
>"HAHA time to buy better gear!"
>nobody sells em on the market
>can't trade with other players because muh anti-bot restrictions
>forced to play as a gimped character and deal with it or to buy TP so I can trade with other players
>"Y-you can always grind, anon!"
>Expected grind of 200 hours to buy a single fucking TP
Yeah, no.
Picture related.
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>>145778435
Should I roll my rodelero now then?
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>>145778548
I usually come across "?" guys
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>>145777957

>fencer don't auto as filler


They should, sometimes.

Fencer has the strongest autoatk of all swordsman, sometimes it's just not worth spamming composee/flan.
o
This compsee infinite spam is kinda of a meme, as long as Venier is the best weapon.

Sacrament alone if you're not wearing cafrisun will give you a huge dps increase on autos because:

~290 holy attack on venier
~40 from sacrament
~153 from karacha
~90 on cheap hats
+monster's defense added on every line because of attaque coquille mechanics.

You can pop 2x 1k+ extra attack lines.

Sometimes it's just worth autoing with cafrisun when sept and lunge are on cd if you don't want to waste lv 10 alchemist potions with composee when you're alone, specially if the boss isn't weak to pierce.

You should always burn your best at grinding party, specially if you have a chrono to increase the exp/hour, but alone? You don't need to try this hard.
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>>145778435
umm no?

we will get like item shop items and maybe the servers opened up again

that's it

nothing

fucking

else

this game is fucking dead already, why do you fucking cunts keep lying?
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>>145778609
>Expected grind of 200 hours to buy a single fucking TP
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>team up with one of the Lua Gods to discover the secrets of world boss hunting
>he does some lua hocus pocus voodoo magic
>channel crashes
>he does it again
>progressively becoming worse (see pic)
>in the end for 2 days straight WB doesn't appear even though its announcement still does on time

Congratulations [REDACTED], you accomplished something everyone else failed to do. You killed Cerberus for real until next Tuesday.
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>>145778609
If you can't afford a token off the market then you can't afford gear. Also you're making shit up because there's no way a level 200 can't afford a token.
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>>145778609
>need 200 hours to buy a token
what the fuck?
you earn around 100-250k per hour at level 200 depending on class and how full places are not to mention 5 man legwyn exploit is 300k a pop as well as selling items
how overpriced are the tokens in your server if you need 200 hours to buy a single token?
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>>145776591
>>145776627
>>145776643
>>145776682
>>145777034
Circling still reduces all mobs aoe def to 0, don't believe that faggot. What got fixed was snipe being able to aoe with circling.
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>>145778214
Again, shows you haven't played a fletcher at all. The skills are situational and depend what you're fighting, you need all of them and even then your 0cd get cucked because barbed is useless against ghost/plate and crossfire is for non-bossing pve.

You have to attribute magic arrow, barbed, barrage, crossfire (can be skipped for bossing), divine machine arrow, broadhead, flare shot (if superior scout flavor), multishot, and even fucking critical shot because it's the filler on ghost when everything is on cd. In b4 greentext divine machine arrow in which case I'll just reply with >he doesn't know
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>>145778435
>literally everything people have been hoping for happens
They're going to synchronize the korean patches with iTOS?
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>>145777724
Fuck off to facebook.
Games are for gaming.
Go socialize on social media.
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>>145778609
post your character let us see it you lier
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>>145778791
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=484
>new costumes
>swordsman buffs
>reopened servers
>SWORDSMAN BUFFS
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>>145779020
>Swordsman buffs
Read closer, anon
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>>145777724
Come to telsiai. We actually talk in party search. Everyone says thanks at the end of the run. it's comfy.
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21272a55.11243545.1a2a355471.11243545.153545.5a6575
How does this look for an alchemist build? I'm not convinced on pyro skills, but I think it should be ok? Also not sure if Thaum is the right path.
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>>145779020
poor anon
its like last thread all over again
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>try to collect wood
>"You couldn't catch anything"
Im not fishing I am picking up a fucking plank.
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>>145778994
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>>145779020
>Korean servers
>Korean servers
>Korean servers
>Korean servers
>Korean servers
Jesus fuck. Your delusion is affecting your reading comprehension.
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>>145779020
see anon is trying to fucking lie again

kill yourself already

dead game

dead general

dead posters
>>
Cattly's birthday is in ONE week. Have you thought about what to get him?
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>>145778269
>they can't handle 2 bosses at the same time
kek

>>145778435
Misinfo agent.

>>145778939
Don't believe his lies.
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>ToS buddy sits next to another person
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>>145779350
A good dicking while his cuckfriend watches?
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>>145778743
I'm aware that you don't always spam Composee/Flan, but Flan should be used fairly frequently since it allows you to keep attacking without taking damage.

Regardless, there's no reason to take Frenzy over points in Cleave/Helm Chopper/Seism/Pouncing especially since Frenzy can get fucked over by hitting a Cryo's Ice Wall or a Pyro's Fireball.
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>>145779350
My dick
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Is this any good?
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>>145779394
I was 103 anon
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>>145779525
Not really because swordies
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>>145779525
>Sword
No
>Two-Handed
No

>Final Answer
No.
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>>145778994
'It'll all to your thighs!'
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>>145779280
To be fair, they could mean 'from Korean Servers'. Their English is broken and it's hard to tell the intent.
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>>145779794
>too many krabby patties squidward
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>>145778269
>FUCKING NOOB LOS ANGELES
what did he meme by this
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>>145779610
and?
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>>145778932

Not that guy (Whose likely a fletcher). I just kill everything with magic arrow + walk around the bonfire of magic, and barbshot lv1 whatever cloth while broadheading whatever has HP for it to tick 2k x 13.

Erm, I barrage when there's a mob, and flareshot if there's A MOB. That's about it.

I use crossfire lv1 for clearing mobs lower than level 100 (230 atm).

Divine Machine Arrow actually has a lot of potential, but the 10s CD is kinda long - and the damage over the entire CD is lower than both broadhead and magic arrow by far, for the time being.

I hardly ever need to multishot anymore. The time it takes to charge the skill, I probably could've done something more meaningful. (Archer 2 here, so maybe archer 3 changes that).

I would 100 attribute magic arrow and broadhead in my case, barbed is good at level 1 even with low attribute, but having it high = kill everything clothed/leather. Broadhead + Magic Arrow is enough to take on everything, anyway.
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>>145778932
You don't use half of that, ever. You have Magic Arrow as your primary, Barbed as your filler on everything that's Cloth/Leather, and the 1-2 low rank abilities of your choice as filler on Plate/Ghost. You are completely delusional if you think Divine Machine Arrow is useful in any capacity, think Broadhead is worth investing in or even using on bosses, or Flare Shot's attribute mattering when its only application is Dullahan and more often than not will actually hurt you with how prevalent Reversi is nowadays.
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So, I just dropped a bloodstone, why is it so expensive in the market?
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>Still playing this garbage
>Not playing Overwatch
>Tree of Savior
>7 YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT
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>>145779472

To be honest, I'm not a fan of Frenzy too, but sometimes I wonder If I should have put points into it.

Anyway, check these attack lines on a plate boss with cafrisun+sacrament+venier
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I lost two things on iToS...
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>>145780071
Look at the things that need it as a craft material, also its required for collection and royal maosuleum hidden quest
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>>145780002
What's the rationale behind this build? How come I see some other fletcher builds going ranger 3?
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@145780093
>shilling an fps to a mmo crowd
>blizzard-activision
you're just as retarded as the rog faggots from earlier
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>>145780249
Your dignity and a boyfriend?
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What is the cutest guild on Klaipeda? I don't care whether it's a guild from here or not.
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>>145780343
All ranger is useful for is barrage and steady aim whilst archer 2 gives crit rate.
Scout is just a filler
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>>145780441
Probably cute.
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>>145780441
ANNIE MAY
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>>145779975
>>145780002
Up to you guys, enjoy attributing only 2 skills and eventually not getting cubes I guess.

And again
>divine machine arrow
Literal 50k burst damage at low cost every 10s in any rotation, most useful on plate/ghost.
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>>145756823
Probably got cancer from having to read that guilds chat for a day
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>>145780441
Clover!
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this triggers the /tosg/baby
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>>145779020
New players next week!
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>>145779525
Two handed sword users are a rarity. You can put it up on the market but don't expect too much for it.
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>>145780151
That's pretty good.
I don't have a Venier yet, so it didn't really occur to me how well that Holy property damage would work with a bunch of attack lines.

>>145780343
>How come I see some other fletcher builds going ranger 3?

Because people made those builds a long time ago based on kToS Steady Aim, which is frankly kind of overpowered.
Those public builds still exist and people followed them when the game released.
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>>145779020
are you retarded or is this just bait? There has already been swordsman buffs on ktos for barbs and some other stuff. I heard the barb buffs are still making the class shit still.
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>>145779839
what step is this
denial?
delusion?
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>>145780441

CNL is most definitely the cutest guild on Klaipeda. No other /tosg/ guild comes close (especially not Pinkpanther's autism den. scaredpopolion.jpg)

There may be a couple non-tosg guilds that could be called "cute" though.
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>>145780626
why?
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>>145779020
>SWORDSMAN BUFFS
heh
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>>145780654
no one is going to join this game anymore

face it

hype has died and new players have forgotten about this shit already
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>>145780343
You trade 10% attack from iTOS Shit Aim for Swift Step attribute, R4 is a wildcard, Scout is really good but I went Hunter myself and no regrets.
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>>145780654
I don't want new players to join. Not having server lag is the best thing to happen to this game.
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>>145780797
the hat covers the whole head
>>145780839
I think that mixed rating is going to scare a lot of people away.

I'm not too upset by it though, koreans need to learn they can't keep pushing this garbage.
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>>145780615
Read what exactly?
>>
CALLING ALL LALACO:

I see you went Ranger C1 instead of Archer C3 for your rogue musket build.

Is barrage + feint really worth it? Or is it just a meme?
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>>145780839
Take your pills.
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>>145780946
IMC will fix the servers and make this game great!
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>>145780343
Archer2 for the crit rate attribute, Ranger1 for Barrage and 10% Steady Aim, and Scout for general utility and movement speed boost via Cloaking.
Ranger3 isn't very good in iToS unless you always go bossing with a full group supporting you, and that just isn't going to happen on anything but Demon Lords, which Fletcher sucks for, and Dullahan. Ranger3 is very good in kToS since their Steady Aim wasn't nerfed, but here it's really mediocre and most people running it actually have no idea about anything and just blindly follow old guides.

>>145780608
But I'm attributing 3 skills, not just 2!
You are advocating getting attributes on Crit Shot, do you even listen to yourself?

Oh, and yes, again
>Divine Machine Arrow
>>
>doing main quest in storage quarter and helping this old dude rape spirits
hmm I wonder whos evil :^)
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>>145780256
well, I think I'll keep it for the hidden quest, those items look kinda garbage and none of the collections has an effect worth spending it for me.
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>>145780970
I actually want a mask that actually covers the fucking face like an actual mask instead of a maskhat.
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>>145780626
>240p
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>>145781071
Not Lala, but feint barrage is nice.
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>>145780839
But we still get new potential players who can't play due to the restriction posting in the thread every so often, doomposter-kun.
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>>145781189
Become a Plague Doctor
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>>145780782

it was cute until Koenig was let in and they publicly associated with lolipantsu..
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>>145781071
>>145781221
Can't wait till they fix it.
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>>145781136
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>>145781318
>If I don't like it, it's a bug!
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>>145781318
There's nothing to "fix," shitposter. It's an intended hidden interaction.
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>>145781176
I used mine for the 50hp hidden quest before putting it into my collection.
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>>145781150
>You are advocating getting attributes on Crit Shot, do you even listen to yourself?

Yes, and I spam lv 70 of it so fast as filler that I always get cube solo unbuffed on every dulla so if it works, it works.
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>>145780979
capys speeches about his love for dragon dildos and lulas speeches about his love for horse dildos
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>>145781839
No and the second person hasn't even been around. The most Capy talks about is his incredible love for sunflower seeds
>>
>skip rain and freezing sphere as elememe
Y/N?
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>>145781961
>Beta orbiter defending its cancer guild
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>>145782143
If I was going to beta orbit someone, it wouldn't be anyone in the guild. Stop being wrong and you won't be corrected.
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>>145782260
daily reminder this is the average coffeehouse member
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Is this recipe bugged or something?

I have all the materials to craft it but it doesnt show up for crafting
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>>145782397
RIGHT CLICK IT FAGGOT
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>>145782376
Nice upvote coullage.
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>>145782376

nice try discord
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>>145782376
Disgusting.
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>>145782397
Right click it in your inventory and do the register to adventurer journal thing.
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>>145782376
Fascinating
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>>145781397
>>145781443
JUST LIKE SADDHU AMIRITE?
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>>145782437
>>145782517
Oh silly me, thanks
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>>145780776
>We expect to implement some changes on the Korean servers as soon as next week. These changes will include improving the attack scope of a few skills and increasing STR stat bonuses.

These changes are already in the Korean servers.
English 101: "some changes on the Korean servers" is a single element in that sentence.
>>
>>145782376
Capyba is literally the cutest
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>>145782141
bump
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>>145782141
Freezing Sphere is only good in theorycrafted Runecaster builds.

Rain increases you Electrocute damage, but I'm not sure it's worth loses points elsewhere for it.

>>145782540
Sadhu was intended, but it was too powerful. In fact, before the nerf you couldn't even damage players with OoB in PvP.
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>>145782376
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>>145782540
Sad who?
>>
Holy fuck does dulla drop anything but fucking cards cards cards fucking cards.

SIX (6) ROWS OF CARDS
SIX
6

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145782540
>sadhu
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>>145782891
Cards most of the time, rare fragments, super rare karacha dagger
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>>145782517
>and do the register to adventurer journal thing.
Wait what's that?
>>
>>145783113
If a recipe doesn't display naturally when you go to craft it, it'll be forced to register when you right click it in your inventory. Usually you get forced to if you team storage the recipe
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How do I quit this game? Just vendor everything?
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>>145783318
1. Don't quit, play with us cutie!
2. If you really do, then give loots to /tosg/ at meetup.
>>
>>145783092
I know deep down they drop other stuff but when you reach your 6th row of cards with nothing to show for it but a shitty spear recipe, you really start questioning the sanity of wasting shekels teleporting every 2 hours for a 1fps lag fest only to get a shitty card in the end
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>>145783269
But why would I register it? Don't I get the entry from simply owning and crafting it?
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>>145783318
fucking finally dota subhuman
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>>145783449
Idk, I get maybe 2~4 frags a day which is okay I suppose.
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>>145781164

>doing main quest in demon prison and locking up your demon bro who warned you to trust nobody, not even him, and then just betraying him because goddess wanted it that way

Y-yeah.
>>
I feel like I've been acting a lot more retarded recently since I started playing this game.
Such as:
Pretending to be a little girl.
Flirting with other "little girls" when I know damn well they are not.
Saying everything is cute even when it clearly isn't.
ERP'ing
And more.
What the fuck happened to me, I used to be cool.
>>
Falconer c2 buffs when guise?
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>>145784116
Post boipussii
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>>145783885

>demon bro

Hauberk is a criminal and only thinks in himself.
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>>145784116
When you stare into the void, the void stares into you.
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>>145784116
Oh please.
You always acted like that. Stop pretending you didn't.
You don't just start acting like a retard out of the blue.
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>>145784116
You're starting to see the light anon.
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>>145784116
Corruption! That's why you have to take up monk and be a honest, hard-working ascetic like me!
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>>145784176
All you need is Circling10! Nothing will withstand your -10 AoE Defense Ratio!
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>>145783885
hauberk should not have trust us :^)
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>>145784517
>monk
>not for the tiddies
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>>145784227
There is only one demon bro, Svitrigaila.
Fuck his whole questline ;_;
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>not going beast master
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#311222ee.1a23354a5161.112f3c516a7185.1121354a576185
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AHHHHHHHHHHH 2 IN 1 WEEK

IS THIS REAL LIFE
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>>145785468
How many chars anon?
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>>145785121
Leave your house and seek a partner of the opposite sex
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>>145785468
I'll get one eventually, r-right?
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>>145785668
Yes. Just make a daily effort and you will!
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>>145781961
>incredible love for sunflower seeds
I like pumpkin flowers more.
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>>145784116
I feel ya bro

The same thing happened to me
the gay in this game is infectious
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>>145785583
I want a big strong man to fuck me!
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>>145785468
>Been playing for about a month
>Do Dungeon runs on two characters daily
>Still no Petamion
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>>145785552
Only 2

>>145785668
You can do it! The trick is to gladly accept the talt you will inevitably receive until a recipe surprises you!
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>>145785941
>1 month
>2 characters
Please. You don't get to complain until you actually invest time into it, it'd be weirder if you got one already.
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>>145786019
>90 tries and not getting it isn't weird at all
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I invested 2 months and 4 characters on Petamion.

Never got it. Ended up farming the silver and just buying one. Ontop of while trying to farm for one.
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>>145785347
Don't copy my build.
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>>145786154
Drop rates suck, I know lots of people who have done significantly more than that without ever getting one. I've been running the 130 dungeon on 4-6 characters every day for probably close to two months now and got my first peta recipe last week.
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My first day without logging in at all.
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>>145786230
>first 130 run
>peta
>first wb harpeia
>audra
it's because you didn't start your month with rabbit rabbit rabbit
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>>145786527

>>145786527

migrate
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>>145786154
It isn't, what do you think the drop rate is?
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>>145786534
Now you just have to fuck off from this thread.
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>>145786534
Log in and do your rushes.
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>>145786556
Fuck you.
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>>145786595
>1%
>90 times
Around 80~% if you meme maths, not getting it is weirder than getting it.
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>>145781071
im level 230 atm moment, so far i still use it a lot specially since i always crit thanks to sneak hit! i dont know if its a bug like the other posters said though
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>>145786832
You realize nobody knows the exact drop percentages for things, right?
All you can do is ask around and see how many people actually get theirs relatively quickly and how many do hundreds of runs without seeing anything.

If you think you are entitled to something just because you've done 90 runs, which isn't even much, you won't be very happy with this game in the long term.
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>>145787002
yeah, it's likely just a hidden skill interaction that is probably working as intended. so I'm not too worried about it being nerfed in the future.

for when I build my rogue, I'm just wondering if despite the extra barrage hits, maybe maxed out multishot (3200 ATK at 15/15), maxed out swift step (20% evasion at 15/15), and twin arrows (supposedly really good as a "filler" skill according to some people) would be better for me.

also, did you go full STR or full DEX? figured rogue would have enough crit that I could actually go full STR instead, although I guess I'd be missing out on evasion.

thx for the response btw, I give you permission to ERP in fedimian now.
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>>145787246
>Korean 10000+ survey percentages which is where the itos percentages come from is incorrect
I love this meme
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>>145786154
>90
Get to 300, report back.
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>>145787474
The percentages people throw around are from the first closed beta when the drop tables, including percentages, were in the files in plain text for anyone to read.
It's basically guaranteed they changed them at some point over the years.
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>>145787694
yes which is why or at least I hope why the koreans did a survey awhile back

its on toscamp, go dig around if you don't believe me
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>>145787375
>I'm just wondering if despite the extra barrage hits, maybe maxed out multishot (3200 ATK at 15/15), maxed out swift step (20% evasion at 15/15), and twin arrows (supposedly really good as a "filler" skill according to some people) would be better for me.
It won't. It's not better for anyone.
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>>145787375
oh, i see, hope thats the case since i like using it!
also, im full str, 100 con, 0 dex, i dont have a problem with crits at all thanks to sneak hit 10 + swift step, the only problem is that if you want to pvp you must hit feint or run around helpless for 25s but thats about!

ERPing is lewd, i wouldnt do such thing!
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>>145788081
>25s
>PVP
That sounds awful.
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Guys does anyone have the link to the korean swordsman buffs?
I want to see if its okay to have a little hope next week.
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>>145788008
care to explain why?
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>>145788181
>>145788181
>>145788181
>>145788181

Move like an Egyptian
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