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>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Competitive Info
http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://www.over.gg/

>The Oversheet (Damage values and other numbers)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Stats and Leaderboards (Unofficial)
https://masteroverwatch.com

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us

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FIRE IN THE HOLE
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>>145713262
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>tfw no Ranger skin for McCree
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>>145702762
sometimes it just werks
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When will they finally nerf widowmaker?
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>blizzbabies wanting people banned for saying gg
Kek
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>Game loads
>Someone IMMEDIATELY locks in Genji
>Doesn't switch the rest of the match

EVERY
FUCKING
GAME
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>someone instalocks Bastion on a KOTH map
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I wish t
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>>145713206
why did you remove half of the info from the OP?
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Why is Junkrat the Demoman from TF2 without the negatives of the Demoman?
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>>145713379
and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Mecha Pharah is cute
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>Girl appears in multiple posters in Hanamura and Anubis spawn

>Japanese text translates to "Power Girl"

>Uses distinctive shades in all her pictures

>Pictured with mech in multiple pictures

Gonna be a hero that starts out on foot, then calls in a mech as her ultimate. As a power suit that only lasts until its destroyed. Like reverse D.va

Calling it now
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>>145713330
>>145702762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9NvFv06T8k
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>hit reflect while backpedaling, just want to escape
>end up reflecting Zarya's ult
>ROCKET BARRAGE INCOMING
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>>145713379

sorry, thats my friend
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Tracer skin that isn't shit when

>>145713340
Hopefully soon. Everything about that whore is still stupidly broken
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>>145713379
>tfw I always lock Genji as soon as the hero selection starts so nobody chooses him, then switch heroes right after everyone leaves the spawn room/the doors open
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>>145713486
GENIUS
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>>145713379
mfw I instalock Torb
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Hey guys why is America still a gigantic shithole and all the third world countries are super Jetsons cities with flying cars and shit?

What did Blizzard mean by this?
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>>145713347
I don't care when people say ggez because at least theyr'e being up front about their condescension/trashtalk (if it was a stomp) or just plain joking (if it was close). When enemies just say "gg" after a stomp, knowing full well it wasn't, it just seems like such a sly way of bragging. I'd respect it more if they were direct.
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>>145713486
>two people pick Hanzo on Attack
>also pick Hanzo
>other half of the team leaves along with two people who come to replace them
>leave myself right before timer runs out

Saved an entire team's worth of people from being subjected to that cancer.
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>>145713379
>game loads
>pick widowmaker because I rarely play her but am decent with her
>two other people pick Hanzo
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If you play Hanzo hang yourself.
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>>145713426
consider which parts are "missing" and you can probably figure it out yourself
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>>145713486
You pretty much have to do this if you want to play Zen

>pick a random offense hero
>someone picks a real support
>wait for everyone to leave spawn after the gates open
>switch to zen
>win
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>just want one game away from my support to dick around on a different character
>nobody picks support to make up for it and we get stomped

Is one game too fucking much to ask
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>>145713432
He could just set them to avoid
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>>145713448
what's the track title?
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>>145713340
>wanting another Widow nerf
>[HON INTENSIFIES]
Where did the Blueberry touch you?
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Why is Junkrat so cheap?
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>want to play Genji
>someone picks a hero and I pick the same one right after, then switch to Genji
>people don't know that it was my plan to play Genji all along
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>>145713379
I don't think I've played a single game without Genji on at least one of the teams in the past 100 games I've played.
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Any tips for Tracer and/or D.Va? I'm a Junkrat main shitter who can only play well consistently as him and Roadhog.
I get movement as Tracer, but not how to live long enough to get in range to do damage. You have to be fucking them in the ass with her pistols to do anything. D.Va is the same problem, but with giant cannons. I hate being the shitter that drags the team to failure, but I also hate only playing Junkrat.
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>>145713429
>Floaty pills that fall hard and have no explosion radius
>sticky jump with no horizontal movement
>Can't lay instant kill traps
>sticky bombs are on cooldown instead of being instant detonate winbombs
Someone forgot how good demoman was
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Why does it feel like Tracer has suddenly become a lot stronger? Are people finally figuring out how to play as her?
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>>145713595
No one cares if you remodel entire cities if what was previously there looks like the inside of my toilet on Taco night.
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I like Zarya
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>>145713771
making her zoom uninterruptible and giving her ult 10% more charge time is not a nerf

i'm not even sure if the 10% had any effect at all, she still gets her ult after 4 headshots
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>See RIP-tire
>Fireblast it as Rein
>It goes right through, does nothing
>Die to tire
>Killcam never shows the fireblast

I'm so fucking done with this game.
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>>145713595
Omnic forces didn't care about those parts of the world so they remained untouched by the scourges of war
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>>145713480
>Implying Posh and Sporty aren't wife material
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>>145713771
>tfw the Blueberry will never touch you
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>>145713801
Tracer is literally easy mode, how can anyone be bad with her
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>>145713429
>demo main
>play junkrat for the first time
>find out that grenades bounced off surfaces do full damage and can directly hit
>you can roll grenades off the floor for easy kills
happy birthday
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JUNKRAT FIGURE WHEN
I NEED IT NOW
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>>145713860
Remember when stickies couldn't be detonated by the enemy team?
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Does anyone else feel that McCrees FtH is useless now?
You're better off just headshoting them
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>>145713801
>D.Va

Switch to Winston

>Tracer
Don't engage unless you can win
You can be ballsy when dealing with singular foes since recall can snatch you some health between fights
If you didn't know already, you can zip side to side and backwards
Save your ult for mercy, track that bitch down if you can
If you're finding that you cant do anything, just switch to something else
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>>145713978
A desync that bad was probably a latency issue.

Check the side of the screen for that lagometer next time.
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>>145713397
>Teammate picks Bastion after winning the first round on a KoTH map
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>new roadhog skin: elephant
>when using ult he lets out a loud trumpet and loads peanuts into his gun, possibly while making rampaging-elephant noises

Discuss
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>>145714034
>wanting shitty funko pop garbage
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>>145713930
I like pink pubes
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>>145714039
Ironically fan FtH became the thing it was nerfed from being, a tank buster.
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>>145713930
>tfw half my time in this game is on Zarya alone

someone save me
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>>145714034
I like these things, would definitely get one for McCree.
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>>145714128
give me an alternative then
i don't see any other overwatch figures
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>>145713996

So what you're saying is that America won again and still has yet to be properly invaded or conquered

Got it, thanks.
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>>145713379
>They're DSP tier bad
>you either carry them to victory and they say ggez
>or you lose because lol 5v6 and they complain the team is awful
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>>145714085
jesus christ you are autistic as fuck
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zarya's really hard to play when the other team isnt retarded
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>>145713930
cyka bylat idi nahui!
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>>145714107
I prefer a popcorn vendor that loads popcorn into his gun
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>>145713951
...and the damage?
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>>145713758
nah
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>>145714179
But it has, anon. Back when it was invaded and its native population pretty much eradicated and fucked over.
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>>145714034
>regular junkrat and super 6" roadhog

i need them
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What if you could deflect Hanzo's ultimate with Genji's?
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>can't select a preferred role when queuing to make it easier for good team compositions to form

I mean, I know that hero switching happens quite a lot, but I still think it would be nice if I could queue as a designated support or tank or whatever. Would also probably reduce the amount of 5 offense 1 something else retard teams that show up all the time.
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>>145714297
you already can
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>>145714051
>D.va
>Switch to Winston

Triggered.
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>>145714034
when are we going to get actually nice looking figures and not just shitty pop! games ones?
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>>145714169
There are no alternatives. You wait for better figurines unless you have no sense of standards
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>>145714297
You can
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>>145714107
That sounds pretty solid.

>New skin: The Butcher
>Gives Road a blood soaked apron and stiches (read: tattoos for the kiddos)
>One of the lines when he hooks someone is FRESH MEAT!
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>>145714051
>Save your ult for mercy, track that bitch down if you can
Wat

You can kill 200 hp heroes with one clip+melee quite consistently from up close if you can aim

Why would you waste ult on that

Tracer definitely should hunt down enemy Mercies but using ult on it is not needed

The ult is best for killing tanks
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>>145713860

What do you mean? Junkrats explosion radius is insane its either that or the hitboxes.

He has

>Mobility sticky bomb that doesnt do damage to him but can to enemies
>Grenade isant loaded pill by pill but though a drum fairly quickly
>Has a trap that can lock people for a good amount of time
>easier to land direct hits with his pills
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>>145714039
It's shit now. Needs to hit every shot to kill soldier 76. Reaper can get out of stun and wraith away before the fatal bullet connects.

McCree himself is pretty strong without it though so I think he's fine.
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>>145713663
or you could just win the game as solo zen if you're not trash
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>>145714359

You can already get the S76 statue with the collectors edition. Buy it seperately
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>>145714297
You can
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>>145714312
>Select offense because you want to play Soldier
>30 min que times because everyone else is queuing as Genji
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>>145713595
I'm glad that Commiefornia separated from the rest of America, then
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I drew two comics last night. I'm torn on which one to keep.
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>>145713801
Shift while reloading as tracer, keeps damage output up while avoiding fire
You honestly don't need to compromise your aim to maximize damage, just spray mid range at the neck and E out when things go poorly and you'll do fine
Neck is best because with spread half your shots hit head and half hit body, instead of 1/4th going above the head and missing entirely

D.va is crippled by low damage output and people constantly moving out of her effective range while she fires, only effective use for her is suicide plays right into the enemy team then jetting out or escaping as human

Always try to approach from above as her
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>>145714137
It was NEVER meant to be a tank buster idiot, there are characters and hard counters specifically set up for all tanks and McCree isn't listed as one of them

McCree has been and always will be a counter to : Tracer and Lucio
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koth is such boring shit

it's just pure deathmatch, no surprise all the genji maining faggots here love it
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>Tip! Getting killed sends you back to spawn, try to avoid getting killed!
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>>145714137
Yeah but you need at least 4 shots from FtH to bring someone down to melee range and by that time they're probably jumping away that you're better off two tapping them to save time
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tfw I record every time I use torberlone and walk behind every female just for "dat ass" view.
The voyeur life is great.
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Honestly I feel like the Widowmaker nerf didn't really do anything at all about her being incredibly powerful, all the damage nerf did was make it so that Zenyatta is actually SLIGHTLY more playable than he was before. Good Widowmakers still completely dominate the game with ease, headshots are just so easy to get and her ult still has like 40% fucking uptime every match.
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>>145706203
So it goes something like
Hold Forward>Press Dash>Collide with object and hold climb>Let go of forward and climb after animation
I've been trying it for 10minutes now and haven't gotten it down yet, but then again I really don't play Genji.
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>entire team quits at the start of a koth game
>everyone that joins in immediately leaves
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>>145714329
>>145714384
>>145714431
Maybe I need to make myself clearer? I know you can reflect the fucking arrow before it turns into the dragons.

I mean WHAT IF you could, like you see in the Dragons video, use Genji's ultimate to send the dragons back in the other direction?
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>Genji is probably one of the most decorated ex-Overwatch agents.
>He's probably one of the most lethal
>Hearing "Genji is with you" should bring you some comfort
>It only brings me stress.
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anyone else feel like they rarely get a good chance to use Roadhog ult
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>>145714426
mercy/lucio + zen is infinitely better than solo zen
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>>145713379
>Genji does this
>WTF WE NEED A HEALER/TANK
>Never willing to play one themselves
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>Contesting the point by myself in KOTH
>Six Enemies
>None of my teammates
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE
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>people still bitching about McCree
I'll never understand.
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>>145714526

I have seen Widowmaker numbers drop by about 30% since the nerf
Which is good

But she's still a game losing hero on offense

McCree on the other hand has dropped off the face of the earth
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I want to be Mercy and date Pharah
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>>145713379
Same with hanzo.

I'm sure the chance of finding a game without hanzo or genji is about as high as winning the lottery.
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>>145714454
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>>145714408
If you headshot them and shoot them again you can kill everyone but those above 200 within the flashbang time but you have to be quick and twitchy otherwise they start jumping away
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>go tracer
>entire team is grouped near a torbjorn turret
>team won't/can't pick it
>not worth ulting it

JUST
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>>145714446
I wish this would happen. Fuck offense shitters.
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>>145714475
koth maps are the only ones where attack doesn't win 90% of the time
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>>145714612
Who? Everyone seems to think he's fine now
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>>145714359
Never. America doesn't make good figures.

Your only hope is that somehow a Japanese company somehow gets rights to OW characters, but that's not gonna happen
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>>145714575
yeah it's pretty bad compared to other ults, slows you down to a crawl. i used it to kill a mercy that kept dodging my shotgun, no regrets.
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>>145714623
I tend to switch to Widowmaker when I need to snipe Bastion, Torbjörn and their turrets, especially on offense
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>>145714603
>See 5 in your aura
>Spam wanting to attack the objective
>SPEED BOOST
>LET'S AMP IT UP
>LET'S BREAK IT DOWN
>Suddenly I am alone at the point

WHERE DO YOU FUCKERS ALWAYS GO
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>>145714526
Yeah the nature of her character is like anti-fun. 1shotting people really shouldn't be a thing in this game unless you're ulting.

Really poor design decision to include a character like her amongst all these other uniques heroes. Sombra support-sniper thing would have been way cooler to launch with. Her only real counter is forcing you to play the same shitty character too (inb4 winston -> grapple to team and kill him)
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Why is he the best character?
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>>145714636
tumblr pls go
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>>145713761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0BW8pVVT5Q
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>>145714603
>The monkey SOMEHOW mangages to fly up and zap you
>The cowboy somehow headshots you or uses high noon on you
>die
>team blames you when all they did was stand in spawn
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>>145714643
Kek, I like the second one more but both are good.
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>>145713379
>not having your own team
Enjoy complaining about "muh team comp stop picking [this hero I disapprove of]" everytime.
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>Potg is Junkrat getting a quad with his ult just 0.5 seconds before my mech explodes
>15 hours and still can't get that fucking achivement
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I personally just quit if it's numbani attack, unless you're in a good pre-made it's a loss, simple as that.

I LOVE numbani defence because no matter what it's a win 99% of the time but like I said, I see attack I just leave, what's the point of doing anything else?
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>>145714571
>playing Trashmouse
>teammate leaves
>new guy joins
>"Genji is with you"
>constantly see Genji killing Mercy and Widow in the killfeed
>POTG is him raping the enemy team from behind with his ult
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>>145714650
I guess Genji mains ARE good for something.

Godspeed, anon.
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>>145714643
This one is good
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>>145714603
one guy is dead, 3 of us are chasing a tracer and a widowmaker is camping :)
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>>145714312
This can never happen unless Blizzard decides to enforce a strict meta (like 1 supp 1 def 1 tank 3 offense or something), which is doubtful.
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>>145714690
it wins 100% of the time since both teams are attack.
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>>145714706
>pretty bad
>insane damage and CC by just pointing in a direction

one of the best ults in the game. The game is focused on building up to these close quarters control fight over payloads and points. You just have to know how to use it correctly.
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>>145714643
both are really good but i like the first
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>>145714734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvmObQ0AaFI
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>playing funky music man
>2 tracers running rampant on enemy team
>our offense characters are doing nothing to stop them
>tell them to switch to McCree
>"im not good with mcCree"
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>>145714650
You are super autistic, but keep up the good work.

Think Blizz will patch this out?
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The lack of mccrees and wms has sent the population of tracers and pharahs up in my games.
I love all these fresh new tracer tears when I wreck their shit with junkrat.
I also love the panic pharah gets when I jihad towards her in the air.
Godamn I love junkrat.
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>>145714034
Forget Junkrat, I want a plush of those onion tentacle monsters.
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>3 support
>THREE FUCKING SUPPORT

SERIOUSLY IM ABOUT TO FUCKING KILL JEFF KAPLANS FUCKING UGLY ASS

HOW THE FUCK IS THERES NO RESTRICTION ON HERO PICKING

>"hey we have 3 support can you go something else or we lose"
>"its just game its just for fun"


FUCK YOUUUUU DIE DIE DIE DIE
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>>145714558
Sorry man, I can't explain it beyond that. Make sure you're approaching the edge and aiming properly. The trick is all precision.

>>145714650
another one
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>>145714762
awesome, thanks man
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>>145714734
Why is there no safety stripes Torbjörn skin
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why the fuck are there so many people leaving right at the beginning of a game?
we could actually make an attempt if it wasnt 4v6
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The performance issues introduced by the update are driving me crazy

Aiming in this game feels so fucking awful if your FPS drops below monitor Hz

I don't want to only play as Winston or Symmetra who don't need to be able to aim
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>>145714576
lol, sure thing shitter
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>>145714846
what I mean is koth is the only mode where one team is not heavily favored to win
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>Temple of Anubis defense
>our Reinhardt sits in spawn literally the entire game complaining about how the teams are uneven until we lose
wew
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>numbani attack
>things are going well
>get 2m away from winning
>enemy team switches to tracers to stall the payload until they win
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How do you counter a good Tracer?
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>>145714678
Just blow your ult man. It charges up stupidly fast if you can get behind a rein/roadhog and spray a couple times
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>>145714924
>complains about 3 supports
FUCK YOU
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>>145714803
Play with Zarya and your troubles for the achievement will disappear
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>>145713206
DUDE HIGH NOON LMAO
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Do shields, that Symmetra gave, recharging count as healing?
Because otherwise, I have absolutely no fuckin' clue how I got 1 healing as Junkrat
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>>145715007
McCree, Torbjorn, Symmetra, Roadhog

People with Stuns and Autoaiming turrets.
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i keep dying to high noon behind corners so much that it's triggering me

i can see that red glow going behind the corner and yet he somehow shoots me
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>>145714454
I think the frame is too wide but otherwise I like it
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>>145714137
nah its fucking shit at tank busting now

the only thing FtH is good for is shooting at things that can't be headshot like rein shield/winston bubble or turrets

in all other situations you should aim for mouse1 headshots instead

i'm not complaing for that matter, i hated the shitty mccrees who relied completely on flashbang+fan. feels so fucking good when you kill heroes like hanzo and s76 from mid range in a duel with just two quick m1 headshots
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>>145714979
FREEZE DON'T MOVE
DIE DIE DIE
NERF THIS
TAKES A LICKING, KEEPS ON TICKING
IT'S HIGH NOON
You had so many options, and you used none of them
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>>145714947
Because nobody wants to play some maps and nobody wants to say, defend on Gibraltar or King's Meme.
I'd rather attack everywhere too so I usually dodge defenses unless they're already in progress and I refuse to play KotH, Anubis or Hanamura as those are cancer for everyone.
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>>145715013
HAHAHA YES SO FUCKING FUNNY TO NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANY DAMAGE AGAINST THE ENEMY TEAM AND A FUCKING SHIT MERCY THAT DIES IN 3 SECONDS

WOW THANK YOU SUPPORTERS

fucking idiots piece of shits everyone is so fucking worthless
its the fucking russians i swear to god fucking genocide them all
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>>145715007
Beat her at her own game
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>>145714762
>mfw
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>>145714884
>>145714819
I just like discovering things and abusing them, but I wouldn't call myself a Genji main since it sounds terrible considering I use at least half the cast of heroes. Genji is just my best hero for many situations. I enjoy using Tracer and D.Va much more.

>>145714928
And another one
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>mfw I'm playing so badly my fried tells me to never take his teleporter again
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>>145714563
The maps are terrbile, coming from someone who played HF2 for 600+ hours one thing i've noticed is the maps are a cluster fuck

in a scenario in which a team caps 1st and kills the other team with little to no contesting it's pretty much over, it takes WAY too long on most maps to get back to the point which give the enemy team time to heal up and regroup, it doesn't help that the maps put a bunch of shit in your way so you have no line of sight on the point to fight people off AS you're approaching it.

Suijin is a good map for KotH on hat fortress for example because the distance to the point is equadistant for both teams there's 3 flanks AND right from the spawn even a sniper is useful for shooting people on the point because there's a STRAIGHT FUCKNG LINE LINE OF SIGHT BLIZZARD!!

maybe if they decrease how fast the counter fills from 0-100% or decrease respawn timer on Koth they can POSSIBLY salvage it but as it is now it's the worse and most un fun mode to play and considering we only have 3 it's not looking to good...

see >>145714603
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So are those lines on Zenyatta's head his 'eyes' or is it the blue dots?
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>>145714076
32ms at the time according to shadowplay and the meter.
Yeah, what horrible fucking lag I had.
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>>145714849
reinhardt stuns the enemy in a cone, zarya groups them up for wipes, winston has the same CC as hog but it massively buffs his survivability instead of reducing it by a ton. it's garbage compared to other tank ults.
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>>145714979
>not going mei and making them all freeze to death
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>>145714575
Nah, he has plenty of good opportunities to use his ult. The one thing I wish they would do would be make it uninterruptible or at least more difficult to do so, it's so fucking easy to stop his ult as it is right now.
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>>145715156
>Supports don't deal damage
>Not just picking Reinhardt or reaper and stomping the enemy team while you get 80+ health per second
Your loss I suppose
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>>145714564
that would obviously be unbalanced, I don't know what you expect as a response
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>>145714474
>lucio
lolwut

tracer and genji are two heroes who mccree is the prime counter against

lucio's ult is is probably the best counter in the game against mccree ult

sure, mccree can easily kill lucio with flashbang but it's not like lucio is hard to kill anyway. any offense hero can kill him with ease while tracer and genji are more tricky for other damage dealers
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>>145714712

I never see it do any good

Because of the way the last points are set out, you're very easily countersniped as an opposing widow

And pickng people off so far away from the point doesnt mean a whole lot when you're just giving the enemy more time to respawn and get straight back out there

The best heroes for taking the final point are heroes that can move into the area, kill, then hold the area.
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>>145714650
>53 fps

fuck sake man
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>>145715007
If you need her gone, keep your eyes on her so you have a general idea of where Recall will spit her out at. Force her to burn it, then go at her hard. Knocking her off the map (if you can) is fantastic, since it either kills or forces out the Recall.

Or you could just switch to McCree.
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>>145713978
>Playing Tracer
>RIP-Tire coming at the point
>I'm the only one left capping, everyone else scattered
>Ok I can do this
>Shoot it dead
>Blink 3 times to the left for good measure
>Die
>I didn't actually blink it seems
And this is with 40ms ping and like 60ms RTT and other letters.
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>>145715242
>mei
>freezing competent Tracers

At most, she could ice snipe them in the toe and get an instakill.
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>Did alright last night
>Get on tonight
>Getting my ass kicked constantly
Wtf man. I'm having like zero fun.
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>>145715304
man, i wish i could draw. Zen getting armor/shields installed in him by torb and sym would be pretty neat imo.
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>>145715216
>Genjitter can't bait out the stun then jump and deflect it

Faggots like you are why Mcree got Steph Curried straight into the garbage can.
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>>145715218
The fact that you think D.vas ult is better than Roadhog's just shows me you have no idea how to play this game.
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>>145715383
No wonder he likes to exploit things.
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>playing against seagull
>i have a few friends i play with
>kill him a bunch and win
>go to his stream and he is crying about premades
xd
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>>145714734
>Locks down objectives better than any other class
>Gives best buff in the game, makes tracer/widow impossible to beat 1v1 and bulletproof vests supports
>Rivets do 140 on headshots with no falloff and a easy to read path
>ult turns turret invincible and sentient while giving torb tank level armor and fuck you dps
and yet still he's considered a low tier hero
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>>145714643

The first one is awful, I like the you were scared version
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>>145715146
>>145715242
>implying I wasn't swapping between Mei and DVa all game

Can't kill all their Tracers and move the point when my team is full of weebs
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>>145715443
>payload is 2 meters from the end
>Not just using an aoe kill ult and making them run away and push the payload in for your free win
That's what he's implying.
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>>145715476
oh yeah, i forgot dva existed. i guess hog's is better than hers.
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>>145714928
It's alright, i've done it a few times now, just need to get it consistent.
I doubt it will really help much on that chokepoint, but you never know.
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>>145715181
>Suijin

Remember those crazy times when there was a completely unbroken line of sight from spawn to spawn?
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Is Torbjorn a problem on consoles? My friends play on PS4 and can't stop complaining about how OP he is

Meanwhile they thought Widowmaker was fine
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>>145714924
3 is a bit much unless they're godlike but comp does the 2,2,2 rule .

http://overwatch.guide/dorado-map-team-composition/#1464667529179-fa1caa92-8cdc7a97-7d6bd853-b1f6

I honestly wish more casuals picked up on the meta, I use it when i'm grouped up with my group and 2 of a certain class on some maps is disgusting
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>>145713595
You generally don't replace infrastructure that is already in place.
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>>145715508
>Things that didn't happen: The Post
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>>145715304
fuck off you fucking worthless loser, 3 supports is never good

you supportfags are worse than hanzo players
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>>145714571

Fills me with warm fuzzy feelings, he's adorable.
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>>145715579
He's at like, 70% winrate IIRC
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>>145715539
You legit toss your ult on the payload and if they stay in to contest they freeze and die or you move the payload for free
Also reaper would have been a better choice since Death blossom has insane vertical range
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>>145715579
They will probably make the turrets not instalock anymore for consoles.
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>>145715242
>suggesting Mei ever
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>>145715579
Yes, people don't turn as fast on console and can't react to an instant lock on turret.
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>>145715579
Torbjorn is annoying on console because his turret can act and shoot alot faster than people can move joysticks to aim.
I've also had major issues shooting anyone that jumps nonstop.
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>>145715579
>doesn't need aiming
>needs aiming
gee wiz
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>>145715547
They'd probably just contest it until nearly frozen, Recall, then zip back in and repeat.
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>First pick Hanzo so that someone else doesn't or picks a Widowmaker
>pull gold in Eliminations, objective Eliminations, and damage easily
>tank the blame for losing because the guy who picked Widowmaker anyway didn't want to switch off and naturally if there's a Hanzo on your team and you lose, it's the Hanzo's fault

ah well what can you do
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>>145715007
Mei's ice turns off her blink the second she's hit with it
Recall still works but it shuts her down pretty effectively
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>torbjörns turrets are still auto aim
>but they don't turn around if you sneak up on them

Yes/no?
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>>145715579
anything that can aim is a problem against console plebs. its why a bunch of them use peripheral shenanigans to play with a mouse.

i'm a console pleb and using a mouse is pretty much cheating.
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>>145715741
Not play Hanzo.
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Is McCree good anymore? He really got the boot when it comes to nerfs.
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>They're are people that trash talk while playing as a 6 stack

wow does blizzard give you bonus exp to group up. they should be giving it to solos who have to put up with this shit.
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>>145715741
it was your fault, retard.
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>>145715761
On Console yes.
On PC no.
Torb is already only slightly above bastion in terms of countering
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>>145715579
Instalocking on xbone is fucking obnoxious.

A godlike Widowmaker will still dictate the flow of the game, though those are more rare on console.
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>>145715761
Just make it capable of firing in a 270 degree cone. Torb does enough DPS without it already.
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I have a friend who plays this game, sometimes we play together and it is the most rage inducing frustrating experience of my gaming life.

He is never on the point, never. Legitimately, NEVER. Doesn't matter who he's playing as, he is not going to be anywhere fucking close to stepping on the point or around the cart.

He forgets to use his skills, just like "Oh man I forgot I had a flashbang" after seventeen hours of playing mcree.

He is almost never anywhere near another teammate.

I've never seen him get a commendation card, not for anything in all the hours we've played together.

Quite often the team would be better off without him.

>But anon, instead of bitching about him why don't you just say <x> or <y> and help him out

Impossible, he accepts zero advice in any regard, he is correct, he is playing the right way, the enemy is OP, the healer is fucking retarded, the game is fucking bullshit etc etc. Utterly incapable of accepting that he is doing it wrong and in doing so completely fucking annihilating any speck of fucking enjoyment this game may hold for me.

But he's my best friend, I've known him almost thirty years now, I don't know what to do.
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>>145715805
muh teamwork
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>>145715571
Yeah, the ones on Dorado aren't that great. Very situational. I wasn't gonna bother at first, but this one is one of the best ones out of all the maps.

>>145715170
And another one
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>>145715741
>I picked first so I should get to play it
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>>145715805
If you can land his LMB he's great.
If you can't he's mediocre.
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>>145715805
+20% exp.

it's to encourage everyone to make friends and socialize aka not be a lone wolf.
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>>145715574
>not just going on the hill or over to the building then on roof

even with the update you could still basically see right through the map from spawn to spawn

i'm not saying the map was perfect just it's a good example for Blizz to go off of when designing Koth maps

the current design has you zig zagging through shit and even high mobility characters get slowed down to this shit making contesting or even let alone capping an almost impossibility
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>>145715761
good idea, the whole point of the turret is to prevent sneak attacks, let's get rid of that
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>Junkrat counters bastion

Fucking how. Every time I switch to junkrat, he just kills me anyway and heals all the damage I do to him, regardless.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giPr5QIVimU
guide to playing bastion
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>>145715607
i forgot that this isnt tf2g and the anons arent actually good at the game
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>>145715579
I've been hearing more or less the same thing. But it's basically because you can't aim and react as fast on controllers. So widowmaker is nerfed severely and torbjorn just absolutely destroys everyone.
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>>145715997
shoot around corners. junkrat can do that you know.
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>>145714239
is literally the same for headshots
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>>145715997
You don't shoot him in his line of fire, dummy
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>>145715894
leave him
those thirty years sound miserable and will only lead to more awful years
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So how do you attack on Anubis?
Just quit match?
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>>145715997
First step - don't just walk up to him and expect to live.

Second step - STOP ME IF YOU'VE HEARD THIS ONE BEFORE
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Am I able to use a mouse/keyboard on xbone? I cant get used to the aiming on here.

Ive always been super good at halo though, which is weird. aim assist
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>>145716003
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>>145716027
i have a harder time believing that seagull would complain than that you would queue in to him
dude seems chill but then again i hear invite was nutso with shittalking so who knows

>tf2g
>anything but highlander players
heh
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>Play Junkrat on the British stage
>Gets to teh last part of the push
>Throw traps over the health kit, throw remote charges everywhere, hold onto RMB
>Win with top damage and top ojective kills
This is fucking retarded
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>>145715894
You have chosen your best friend wrong. And if you were friends you'd be able to tell him that he is fucking shit. If that doesn't work just stop playing with him until he gets over his dunning kruger.
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How does Junkrat's tire climb work? I have it set to auto climb, but it seems really finicky
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>>145715778
>tfw didn't have a good gaming PC until 3 months ago
>Pretty great at Halo, CoD, and all the other pleb games on 360
>Finally PC master race
>Playing on mouse is so foreign, can't figure it out
>Start playing PC Overwatch with an Xbox controller
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>>145715997
Find where he is
okay good
Lob gernades because direct hits deal 120 damage each and three will kill him.
Don't walk directly into his line of sight like an idiot
If worst comes to worst use your ult and smoke him out by looping around a corner
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>>145715926
I was more talking about the one on Hanamura.
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I have a friend who thinks Reaper takes more skill than Rienhardt how should I tell him he is wrong.
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>>145714239
OH NO SHE DOES SLIGHTLY LESS DAMAGE WHEN PEOPLE SPAM BODY SHOTS. WIDOWMAKER FOREVER USELESS.
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>>145716087
are we going to pretend widows only hit headshots? not even C9 Reaver or Taimou are capable of that.
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>>145715937
You'd have a point if I wasn't performing the best of my teammates
It's not like I don't understand where they're coming from.
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>>145715965
A good torbjörn can still place the turret in a decent spot where it protects the objective.

I just play on console and it's so damn hard to get rid of that thing. He's in almost every match and it's getting tedious if your team doesn't coordinate perfectly. Same with bastion.
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>>145715778
>using a mouse or 3rd party m/kb device on console

muh nigga, I used to use a frag fx on PS3

keep drinking those tears and building your empire of salt

on a side note I seriously don't know why SONY and Microsoft don't just make 1st party m/kb devices knowing people play a lot of comp shooters on console like CoD, BF etc. where people would LOVE that option.
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>>145716189
try using words
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