Sandbox Edition
Clans:
EU - NOFUN
http://eu.wargaming.net/clans/500011239/
NA - GOYIM
http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000022908/
Blitz clans
NA - BENIS
>where do I look up tank info:
tanks.gg
>How do I get platoons:
Join NOFUN or NAFUN
Ask in the /vg/ channel
1st for Girls und Panzer
2nd for other thread has no paste
3rd for sandbox is shit
Is it a good time to return to the game after more or less 5 or 6 months of not playing?
Also, does anyone know if NA got that stat reset thing from EU? The one where you lose every non-premium and non-reward tank to get your battles played to 0?
who here smonk weeb wen u play tank
nth for second M of the evening
>>145692589
>Is it a good time to return to the game after more or less 5 or 6 months of not playing?
No. NA is dying, and WG's great upcoming Balance Two Point Oh™ is looking like shit right now.
The devs have no idea what they're doing at the moment spend your time and money elsewhere.
>>145692827
hat come to NA and ill hit u up with dat 500g
>>145692983
>come to dying server after grinding out the relevant meta tanks on EU
HAHAHAHHAHA
fuck off Sam
>HEAT
:^)
>qb says he talked with developers and they want to include a lot of stuff from sandbox in the next patch
please please please make it happen
ill finally be free
I accidentally a whole mutz
Wat do
>>145692635
its fun
>>145694545
>Test only tier Xs with radical changes
>Yep, should be ready for the next major live patch
Do it WG, crash the game with no survivors.
>>145691791
>>145692635
>delete artillery
>fix game
Easy solution imo
>>145692635
yes
>>145694882
>>145694997
but tovarich we already spend $1000 on arty models so we must use them)))))))))
>>145694997
The maps really need work as well, and the balance at lower tiers.
>>145695202
>Retards spend the most on our game, and unsurprisingly, most of them enjoy artillery
They'll never ever remove the class. For every normal human being that quits in disgust, 10 mentally deficient players continue throwing money at the game.
>>145695612
there isnt that much to throw at arty tho, theres only leFH right?
>>145696527
Converting XP. Arty generally gets XP at a low rate because they don't spot for themselves. Those turdbuckets on the Brit SPG line after the FV304 aren't an accident, they want people to just say fuck it and throw $100 to get a CGC.
Also a lot of arty faggots branch into TDs.
While artillery was certainly a problem, it was the absolute retards playing that made me quit.
The game would be entirely different if you had to maintain a certain stat level to remain above tier 6.
>>145697160
This.
Normal people (i.e. those with at least green stats) don't realize just how much money tomatos throw at this game to be able to skip grinds and spam ez mode ammo.
Just today I had a tortoise keep my is-3 tracked with 12 skill ammo shells, he was like ~500 wn8.
I just asked why didn't he switch to AP or HE instead of wasting credits.
He said he buys 12 milion credit packs to shoot only gold.
>>145697605I wish i had that much money available just to throw it away like this
wtf
can someone tell me how did i get 15 days of premium
i didnt play for several days and just logged on the site to check something and noticed golden star next to my name
>>145698440
world of warplanes stuff ?
>>145698547
world of whatplanes?
>>145698440
The website show premium time incorrectly sometimes. WG can't be arsed to fix it.
>>145697743
man, even If I had I wouldn't feed it to Belarjews
>>145697596
but how could we take huge shits on human potatos
>No players on sandbox during NA time
I honestly didn't expect it to be this bad.
>>145699471
it's as if nobody is having fun on SB
Reminder that the whole point of Sandbox is to try radically new ideas and if they're shit, they can try something else without consequence.
>>145699804
ok Wargaming shill
>>145699804
they made spg's worthless. they destroyed heavy tanks, they made Mediums blatantly OP. Some tier 10 mediums have a dpm of 4000 whille a heavy has 2000.
>>145699604
Well, if things continue like this WG will have to offer actual rewards for playing on the SB server, or there won't be anybody left playing by the next week.
>>145700513
You're going by the leaked stats. Medium tanks are shit on the SB, everybody is playing Type 5s, E-100s, and Maus.
>>145700515
that means the concept worked, even if SB is a failure, it worked, it tested ideas and if those ideas were found to be utter garbage... it still worked... as long as they dont implement the garbage
>>145700513
Don't forget the Russian bias.
>>145698682
looks like you were right
it just jumped to 38 days lel
>>145701041
If they need external input to figure out their current batch of changes is shit, then I'm honestly worried about WG.
They're not a 4 person dev team, they're raking in hundreds of millions. Somebody should have told them this is shit before they bothered with this server.
Anyone want to platoon with me and my stock 110 on US E/W?
WN8 above 1k acceptable.
Also is 4chin's clan alive anymore?
>>145701597
>stock 110
could be worse, could be stock Wz-11111?111 1-4 i guess
ongoing 16 win streak in footie solo queue
>stop to aim at the ball
>enemy stops and shoots my tracks instead of trying to deflect the ball
>score
e v e r y t i m e
>>145701782
3 HEAT rounds magically decided they didn't want to pen the drivers hatch of an IS6 and that's when I ragequit today.
HEAT autobounces at a lower angle than AP or something?
I think the principle achievement of the current sandbox iteration is that basically all tanks are not fun to play any more.
All tanks are now one-dimensional trash, good only at one thing WG wants them to be good at, and when that one thing doesn't win the game you're fucked.
>>145702448
HEAT autobounces if it finds a molecule of spaced armor. The IS-6 is made of spaced armor.
>http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/502639-tournament-changes-in-july/
No more free gold for NA. Don't let the door hit you on the way out, goyim.
What if SPGs had flare rounds, for spotting enemies, and smoke rounds, for concealing allies?
>>145702714
>and maybe do some cool things, like spotlighting the winning team in an article.
>seeker possibly getting interviewed
>oberst also possibly getting interviewed
>>145703114
Tournaments will never be that ded.
>>145702714
How are we gonna get goaldz now?
>>145702586
Cool, another tank I literally cannot harm for 59k exp of grind.
>>145702714
>>145703398
>In July
We're fine, just no handouts next month
>>145702714
>this means that some of our favorite tournaments, like the Skirmish, Weekday Warfare and Weekend Warrior will no longer be happening in July
JUST
>>145702714
>During July, there will be two new tournaments added, the Platournaments and the Summer Play tournament at the end of the month
okay so we might get something like March Madness or the Memorial Day tournaments being more common, but I guess we'll just have to see
>>145702714
No seriously what the fuck are these people doing?
SB changes are shit and now no more gold?
>>145704115
some jew boss that worked on destiny joined WG
>>145703680
Departed is based Kino
http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2015/12/17/wargaming-america-hires-former-ea-and-activision-executives/183050/
>>145702714
CRASHING THIS GAME
WITH NO SURVIVORS!
https://youtu.be/zAaB66b_r1c?t=49
simply dynamic
>>145705109
you are going to love the sandbox spg's then, they do less damage and have less penetration, but they deal more damage in the same time, they are more accurate, shoot faster and have a bigger splash damage, they also stun your crew for 45 seconds (stunning means your crew skill gets dropped to 50%)
Spg's now can then stop entire advancing lines and wreck entire teams. Biggest buff ever.
>>145705109
How can a developer even let a game get into a state like this?
DO developers even have any pride and respect in their own work anymore?
>>145705410
Please, my dick can only get so hard.
Lucky he had a stock gun!
>>145705410
Sounds like a super fair and fun game mechanic)))
>>145702714
If WG is going to implement some of the Sandbox mechanics to the game, even if many players hate it, they might as well do other things like removing tournaments since the player base is already pissed.
>>145706054
Yeah, it's not like they're in danger of pissing a lot of people off on NA.
>>145702714
You know, the gold is nice and all, but the more important thing was these tournaments were the only real source of actual competitive team based play for many people. Pubs are insufferable shit at this point, 44% retards all over the place and 2-3 arty per team in every single match with sandbox arty balance apparently making it even worse.
We'll see what the July events look like, but if it's all major clan shit I'm probably done.
>>145702714
>Take a break from the weekly skirmishes for a week
>LOL no more small tournaments
I don't even care about the gold at this point, I just liked playing in organized battles with people who weren't retarded. Oh well, RIP NA server.
Calm down people, the article says they're focusing on bigger tournies and cutting out skrims IN JULY. They may be jews and continue with that, but as of now it's not ogre.
some one said to get the lumberjack mod? Can some link plz? google keeps getting me minecraft mods.
Is this all the mods i want? I would like the wn8 shower and previous position on the minimap
>>145707039
>lumberjack mod
Based upon the names, i am assuming its going to remove the trees. Which gets you banned.
>>145707130
>Which gets you banned
kek. So many clans run it that people have developed counter-play for it (ie shooting buildings/trees with HE on the one side of the map while going the other way). WG has zero mod enforcement beyond requesting the logs immediately after a match.
>>145702714
What, how could they even think of removing Skirmish? They're willingly killing off the game as hard and fast as they can.
>>145706824
>I just liked playing in organized battles with people who weren't retarded
that was a definite plus
>>145707567
cutting off the free source of gold, or atleast severely tightening the amount given out, will supposedly make more people want to spend actual shekels on the game
I made 30K or more gold in the last 6 months of tourney's. If it's just one big tournament a month and the pay out is the same, then I can expect 10k of gold in the next 6 months if they decide to keep it that way
>>145707889
My concern is they're going to focus on big clan events, with the talk of 'interviews' and stupid shit like that. Tier X clan tournaments are great for Bulba and Otter winning another million gold, but it cuts out the rest of the server from both gold and decent competitive play.
>when u r the angel 2 save ur team after they cant pen this shit for 30 seconds straight
>>145708426
Sam pls.
>>145708146
Dance did say that making the move to fewer tournaments a month will help "spotlight winning teams". So it might be some shitty way to try to bolster WoT's Esport scene
credit reserves soon
>>145705410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzGbCDNhZFc
>>145709198
why didn't you put in your slavmed crew commander?
>>145710301
already has 4 skills
>>145710420
and?
>>145710485
and it doesn't need training
I just love rental weeks. Brings out the best players!
>congratulates me on getting Pool's in my E8 months ago
>sends condolences after game I just posted
Nice guy!
>>145712472
cutest driver
>>145712472
I'm glad that shitters are bring them to the 1v1 tourney
How do I force myself to play tanks?
>>145713713
AW is just sad at this point.
>>145712472
I'll never be able to get that mod, I'm too autistic and can't handle non-canon crews.
>>145714382
is that VC 3 as the base pic?
>>145714502
you can swap the portraits around to fit your crews, if you wanted you could even edit the names
>>145714506
No, it's Gran Turismo 4
>>145714140
didnt care about AW
care to explain what happened?i just remember a lot of hype last year because it put away with all the rng bullshit and had modern tanks
>>145714638
Take world of tanks, then remove any resemblance of competent coding. Then make it look like shit, and finally remove all feedback mechanisms so you have 0 idea what you are doing or what is happening around you.
>>145714638
Obsidian keeps fucking up specials and events.
To be honest, I haven't played it in months but from what I've read the NA server is dead. 10 people in the queue dead. The whole meta revolves around MBTs, which has driven everybody who isn't playing MBTs away from the game. The remaining players are mostly playing PvE.
![tk_x[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QHUaKww.jpg "tk_x[1].jpg")
>>145714957
>The whole meta revolves around MBTs
the most realistic game ever made
>>145691615
is the stug III a better version of the m3 lee?
>>145715370
>>145715370
I guess you could say that
>>145715370
I'd rather play a 1000 battles in a Stug III B than a M3 Lee
>>145714768
>no competent coding
so its laggy/glitchy/buggy?
>looks like shit
i thought modern graphics and engine was one of its selling points
>no feedback
so no dmg indicators or healthbars or minimap?
>>145715473
I haven't gone down that tech tree and I just want to know if I should play it. I look at the stats of the guns and it seems like it's m3 lee that's all except the gun is not on the side
>>145715783
Stug line is fun
>>145715712
>so no dmg indicators or healthbars or minimap?
as in, it's very easy to see how much damage you are doing in WoT, and how much damage you are receiving simply based off of audio and camera cues.
AW doesn't have that, you could take 12 severely damaging hits from someone and not realize it until you look at your health bar.
>>145715370
the stug trades gun stats for camo and mobility
The lee is probably better as a full package
How the hell does one get outnumbered on all flanks without anyone dead yet? On top of that, no campers. Like, what? How? I don't even.
>>145715783
The StuG hides in bushes and snipes from afar. It is unlike the Lee in that it is actually good and not a speed bump on the way to better tanks.
The Hetzer and Marder 38t are also very yes. Flaktoaster is gawky but not so bad.
>>145715783
>Britbong damage reduced on average by 50
>Russian tanks damage reduced on average by 20
>B-but USSR vision is reduced. It's pure coincidence they want to force everyone into close range brawling torvish!
WAKE ME UP INSIDE.
>>145717134
>Congratulations tovarish )))))))))
>Have a bunch of nothing
This is the most authentic gulag simulator around -ign
>>145716881
what is this from
>>145717345
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Weeks_Later
thread ded, quick post floof
>>145718939
is the leopard 1 just a better version of the amx 30 b?
>>145719848
Yes, but the other way around.
>>145702714
https://youtu.be/XU9UideeyPw
>The goal is to decrease the effective firing distance, in order to increase vehicle survivability when being focused from far distances. Players will now have to aim their shots more carefully.
>>145722472
Makes sense.
>>145722472
They already nerfed shot dispersion not too long ago and it was fucking terrible, I'll quit if this shit goes through. It's fucking retarded. Armour isn't useless, the morons who don't know how to use it are useless.
>>145722472
Because this isnt bad enough
>>145722657
I can stomach some of the changes they're testing, but adding more RNG is sigma spread may be the final straw as you say.
>>145722863
None of the changes they're testing that I've seen are anything but complete shit.
>40 games trying to do lt-15
>finally get prohk
>spot 5 tanks for 3 minutes straight on 1 line
>get yolo'd
>500 assist
fuck this shit
is there a reliable statistics site for wot? i mean vehicle statistics, like what vehicle has what winrate/damage/survival rate on average etc
i checked a few and all they seem to have pretty skewed stats like no tank goes below 50% and a few are 58% etc as if they used stats from the good players only
>>145726092
>the very next game
thank fuck, scouting without 6th sense is cancer
>>145726671
they all only seem to include stats of players that have been searched for already so pretty heavily skewed towards better players
it's weird. warships.today has unskewed stats, tanks.today clearly made by the same people... well, not the worst of what i checked but clearly skewed
>>145726671
VBaddict is kind of okay, but only records people who upload there. There's some obviously 'not right' stats like the M4 Improved and T-34-85M having among the highest WRs of their tiers.
>>145726671
Didn't noobmeter used to be good for that? What happened to them, the site is still around but their tank stats haven't been updated since 2014.
>>145691615
how is the vk45.03? the game just put one in my car hole for a day, is it better than the tiger 1? is it worth playing or even giving them money for it?
>>145730120
is good but overpriced as fuck
What did he mean by this?
>>145730195
some how I felt it's just like a slower version of the tiger1 in every aspect but with slope armor, I really can't tell if that's a good thing or bad thing
>>145722472
>sergei we are losing players too quickly, wat do ?
>I have an idea tovarish)))))))))))))))
why does winning have such a drastic effect on your wn8 values? It feels like a 3k dmg loss gives so much less than a 2k damage win in a tier 8 tank
>>145731801
cant say ive ever noticed much difference? kills are super heavily weighted but winning doesnt seem to do much
>>145691615
I came back to tonks after a year's leave, it said that my last 7 days wr is 66.67%, a year ago I was 49%, what happened?
>>145732346
was just playing the 416
>2900 dmg loss
>2575 wn8
>3700 dmg victory
>7500 wn8
It's just something I see a lot, the large difference seems to consistently show up
>>145731087
>>145722472
))))))))))
>pop 100% xp boost
>this happens
i know im playing like shit but come on
>>145733828
Type T-34 is a shitty T-34 thats why
>>145734105
I should be able to afk a better win rate than that
What does the WOTREDDIT invite give?
>playing this game
>when you could be having a clan age of empires night
>>145737697
[NA] Server - Use Invite Code: WOTREDDIT for 7 days of premium time, 500 gold and a Churchill III.
yogscast gives 1k gold + Excelsior + 7d prem
>>145737697
oh and invite yourself to the game if you have an account. you get 300 gold 1 free garage and first 100% crew for free.
>Same problem the Konjagpnzer had
Why would I get this thing when the Lowe exists?besides price tag differences
Finished the first 14 MT missions and LT-15 but what the fuck
https://youtu.be/-2YFgzzJiLA?t=86
>oberst plays DS3
guys, guys!
It finally habbened!
>>145741498
hitler
>>145742249
11:57 onward is also bretty gud
Brit heavy line is shite. Bumping with nazrine and maus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o75cchwjVCc
>>145738353
do wot blitz and wot share gold and premium time?
>>145743658
of course not
>>145746714
why of course?
wot and wowp share both afaik, wot and wows share premium
>>145746776
two different platforms tovarish)))))))))
those capitalist pig dollars won't just materialize out of nowhere
WG is a small family business, there are mouths to feed
>>145741990
>yellow
pls be ashamed
>>145741990
But you play like a blue hat, why you confuse
>>145747884
>1300 recent
>play like a blue
please
>>145699804
Reminder that 70% from the sandbox are to be implemented into the game, according to the developers, as said by the paid WoT shill #1
https://www dot twitch dot tv/quickybaby/v/72764839
From 1:20:30 onwards
>>145749202
As if WG RU actually talk to that cunt, he speaks to EU but they don't do shit
>mfw going from fully upgraded t-34-1 to stock t-34-2
>mfw stock wz-120 appears to be even worse
>despite being literal soviet tank, they lack the bias gun depression and soft stats
W H Y
>>145750664
Made in China
>>145747997
>he intentionally mucks ups some games just to games just to hide his skillelevel and keep the ruse up
You're both a gentelman and a scholar of tanks, hatster. We don't deserve you.
yfw bullied by Hat.
>>145751096
how the fuck are both the type t-34 and the type 58 worse than the soviet counterparts anyway
the only change is the cupola
>>145751598
Faulty chinese manufacturing
>>145750664
>>145751598
Exported bias is not real bias
>>145751598
The chinks couldn't figure out how to enable the gun to depress more than the internal dimensions of the turret would allow, obv.
Sandbox changes list where?
>>145751961
Why don't you just get accepted to the server and see for yourself you cuck?
>>145749202
lets hope so then i can finally quit and just enjoy the shitstorm
>>145751961
>Everything you liked: Ruined
>Everything you hated: More of it
I wish I were joking.
>>145730120
Fun as shit
feels like stock tiger 2 in tier 7
>>145751598
Russian tanks get fantasy gun depression and better soft stats
Plus the T-34/85 top gun was a prototype that didn't see service
Same with the T-54's over-armored front plate
>>145751961
Pretty much everything, EVERYTHING got nerfed, biggest nerf is mobility, arty now stunts.
Well, everything got nerfed except Russian tanks, of course.
post session stats
I'm grinding chinese LT's. Never bothered with chinks before. Is it good, bad or wake me up tier?
>>145752789
Chinese LT's are basically super light mediums
the wz-131 has some amazing gun selection for tier 7 and can fit stabilizers
wz-132 isnt so great
>>145752789
REALLY good
Just get past the 59-16 and you're golden
>>145752789
>>145752835
59-16 has like half the pen of every other tier 6 scout/elc and only 380 view range
>>145752887
>>145752856
should Ifree expthrough it?
>>145752887
the 59-16 doesnt exist
shhh
dont remind me
>mfw that autoloader pen
>mfw cant pen the ass of some tanks it gets matched with
>>145752930
No. Use the 57mm gun and chai snipe for gloriuous wn8 padding
>>145752930
Play it in tier 6 strongholds.
>>145752773
would have been worth it if i just finished mt-15
>>145752956
you can use the t-34 gun which gets like ~180 apcr pen
>>145752971
>>145752968
haha jokes on you, I enjoy wake me up tier tanks
>M's on lee and grant.
>multiple M's
>got replays
>:^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UwAkUEU1g8
>>145753084
>36 games in the type t-34
jesus fucking christ
You know you can easily do mt-15 in high tiers with all those massive slow td's to farm?
>>145753087
honestly, the lee/grant arent so bad
The new japanese heavies though (tier 3/4)
>>145753280
I rerolled on NA so it is my only medium tank. I did the first 14 missions in that session but had no luck with TD-15.
>More unicums use vents than rammer
What am I missing here? Ive always run binos/rammer/gld but considered dropping gld for optics. The only combo with vents would be optics/vents/rammer with a good crew I guess?
>>145753842
>What am I missing here?
Barely anybody uses that site any more? People just throw vents on there for the grind because they don't want to invest more than 50k?
>>145740108
because the Lowe is ugly, slow, and boring as fuck
>>145753317
17kxp in something possibly worse than the tank before it
wak m up iasd;
>WG doesn't want mediums to snipe on sandbox
enjoy grinding those german mediums, mate.
>spend 10dollaroos on premium since grinding money for t10 meds
>next day read about SB nuBalance
Give me my money back, fucking hell.
>>145734565
NA is really, really streaky. More than one yuro trying it out has commented on the blowouts on NA. I had a 5 match losing streak with top damage last night, then 3 games I won right after where I did more or less nothing. Too many good players left and too many 40% huehue retards took their place
>>145754582
>Lowe
>ugly
You have no taste.
>sandbox server invitation
Oh boy, time to see the horror first hand.
What did he mean by this?
>>145759984
WHAT
>>145759984
AHAHAHAHAH
>>145759984
>>145760005
Full version.
>tfw you will never penetrate Cipher's inner circle
>>145760284
shouldn't have lost the war i guess
>>145759984
>russian meds' mobility unchanged
Different role, comrade. Is balance ))))
>we wont remove arta tovarish, we cant just remove so many vehicles people spent time to grind for!
>but hey we will completely fuck up stats of every tank in game, non arty players didnt have to work hard to earn their tanks right
>>145760289
Let's form our own tanks' circle. With hookers and blackjack. In fact, forget about the hookers and blackjack!
looks like vk45a isnt selling as good as they expected lmao
>wg adding whole 2 weeks more to sale of """"""""""limited™"""""""""" tank
>>145761125
>selling a massive hobbled tiger
>"tovarish, fashist box sell badly, but i am the new idea)))))))"
>NEW(tm) WEEKLY """"SPECIAL"""": nerfed stock IS3
>>145753224
>In SB"just flank" means "hug their sides because RNG"
>>145760906
I live for posts like this.
Arty 4 life.
>>145753224
>russian med can't hit shit past 100m
surprised they haven't reversed that yet
>when you get an invitation for SB
>>145722472
WHAT THE FUCK WARGAMING YOU FUCKING RETARDS
Do they even realize how massively this favours Russian tanks and specifically big derp guns? Oh wait of course they do )))))))) glad I uninstalled this piece of shit game
>>145765228
>"glad I uninstalled"
>still posts on general
you clearly haven't finished the uninstall friendo)))))))
>>145763110
>tfw downloading it on slow ass internet
>>145722472
>>145722472
feel free to call me cancer, but this will make arty completely unplayable.
>>145765632
I shouldn't but ...
>>145765632
>that pic
chuckled
>>145752737
Just once, I'd love to see a sandbox server without artillery. That would be fucking amazing. Maybe wargaming would realize how good their game is without it
hmmmmmmm
>>145766086
>>145765228
can you even math retard, the only buff is to using rations due to how accuracy has become 5x more important
>>145765720
That's what arty shooting already looks like you goon.
>finally download sandbox
>identification error
>all these glorious light tank buffs
get fucked heavy shitters
Heroes alpha bracket match tonight at 10pm Est
Heroes alpha bracket match tonight at 10pm Est
Heroes alpha bracket match tonight at 10pm Est
Heroes alpha bracket match tonight at 10pm Est
Heroes alpha bracket match tonight at 10pm Est
>>145767570
I wonder if they're related to teamsp00ky
I find it kinda scary that wargaming thinks the changes on the sandbox might make the game better.
>>145769480
Game is stagnant which leads to mass user migration after some time, they think they need to make huge changes I guess
>>145769480
i've been one-popped by arty no less than 6 times while doing my whenever-daily 2XP grind through 30 tanks, and god damn at least it lets you go straight back to the garage rather than having you sit there twiddling your dick for 5 minutes as you and your crew die a slow and sad death
if these fucking changes go through imma cry
>install SB
>two battles in
>uninstall
No, fuck this, it's even worse than standard fucking WoT, as unthinkable as that might be
So, sandbox players, what changes do you like? If none, what tanks will be meta?
>>145770383
None. Sandbox meta is flanking but none of the map allow for it.
And so it's pretty much Maus/Type 5 spamming HE at each other.
Honestly, if they go through with the sandbox meta, this is my stop.
>>145770749
see you in war thunder anon
