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News:
1)
XCOM 2 officially coming to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 on September 6th.
>https://twitter.com/XCOM/status/740181548419272705
2)
Julian Gollop is working on his new game Phoenix Point. It's a turn-based tactical game with strategy elements, destructible terrain, geoscape and character progression much akin to XCOM. Lobstermen are confirmed.
>https://twitter.com/Phoenix_Point
>http://www.phoenixpoint.info/
>http://www.pcgamer.com/julian-gollop-announces-new-game-phoenix-point/
3)
Long War Studios are working on more mods for XCOM2. The first in a planned series of five is live on Workshop + Nexus now, and is called Long War Toolbox.
>https://xcom.com/news/en-long-war-studios-creating-more-xcom-2-mods
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674832831
Also cosmetic mod author Capnbubs - maker of the most endorsed mod on the workshop - has been signed onto the LWS team to model stuff.
4)
Alien Rulers has been released alongside a large patch
> https://xcom.com/news/en-dangerous-ruler-aliens-await-in-xcom-2s-alien-hunters-dlc
5) Anon dug up some Shen's Last Gift SDK assets
>http://imgur.com/a/Z5aWQ
The /xcg/ Mandatory Read:
>http://pastebin.com/k9pT8zx4
<<Helpful XCOM 2 Links!>>
Assorted improvements (Skip intros, alleviate stuttering, multi monitor support, and resolutions past 1080p)
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=616682629
XCOM2 NEW AND IMPROVED MODLIST, updated regularly:
>http://pastebin.com/pTMatP5Z
NEW MEGA MOD LIBRARY - Contains all 180 mods from the new modlist:
>https://mega.nz/#F!HlgWjCqR!STJ0c0kW8Fs6jKynqKyerw
Music for killing ayys WITH FIRE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
/xcg/'s Long War Library (New LW players read this shit or you will be ignored):
>http://pastebin.com/YmaXBKpN
Image Library of /xcg/:
>http://imgur.com/a/S1qfx
>Kill Zone reinforcement square from high ground
heh...
nothing personnel.....
ayys....
>French will be premium DLC for BF1
TOP KEK
Bayonet charges for XCOM when
I want to gut some ayys
>>145561339
Wew, that looks ungood
>>145561339
what the fuck is all that shit on that poor bolt-action rifle?
what the fuck have you done EA
>>145561525/k/
>>145561525
They made it authentic and tactical.
>>145561525bubba strikes again
Game just randomly started crashing to desktop. Restarted computer, still doing it. Anyone had this issue with XCOM2?
>>145561858
Mods?
>dead on arrival
what's the best class for zhang?
>>145563256
I made him infantry
Sure game spawn the cyberdiscs and their faggot drones in the middle of civilians why don't you
>>145563465
>it's a 3 cyberdiscs less than 10 tiles from each others mission mission
How do we fix multiplayer?
everyone just camps overwatch and quits when they are going to lose
>>145563614
We don't, multiplayer is tacked on.
>>145563465
>letting terror ships land
:^)
>>145563608
>Implying I can even spot, let alone stop them in the air at my tech level
Also make that 4 discs and a pack of floaters
>>145563614
Overwatch is now only possible when the enemy is in sight/has a higher penalty when the enemy isn't in sight.
>>145566976
what's the problem here tovarisch? other than your toaster
I'm a huge fan of enemy unknown and I've played it a ton, and I finally bought XCOM 2 whilst it was on sale.
Am I missing something? This game is impossibly harder. I picked veteran "for people familiar with XCOM" and I got my ass thoroughly kicked. Even when you make seemingly perfect plays you take terrible losses. And then I had to attempt to blow up an avatar base, which is just laughable. How on earth are you supposed to get through a force that outnumbers and outpowers you that much and survive?
Seriously, how are you meant to win this game? Why did they make it so much less fun than Enemy unknown? Or am I missing some important new tactic? I'm genuinely upset that I suck so much. Right now my options are switch to rookie, savescum every turn, or uninstall, and the third is looking like the most appealing.
>>145569529
Most Eu/EW tactics do not work.
>>145569712
I noticed that much, but what are the new options?
I have at least adapted to not having to kill all the ayys every mission and using faceless beacons to run to the evac, but you do have to kill /some/.
>>145569796
The secret is to try and kill pods as soon as they spawn or use items to prevent them from using their abilities
Cyclops eyemod when
>>145569796
Grenades.
>>145570035
Yeah, flashbangs are great. Shame there's normally about 10 different aliens who refuse to group up.
>>145570206
Can't carry enough to kill the amount of enemies there are, and they do terrible damage compared to guns.
>>145570406
fuck off newfag
>>145570279
Just keep trying and you'll figure the strategies out.
>>145570581
On what number playthrough should I expect to start enjoying the game?
>>145570663
I started really enjoying it on the second, the tutorial tech order kind of fucks you over
>>145570741
Oh right, speaking of, is hacking into an officer important? What about the blacksite? I couldn't do either at my level.
Also does not doing the tutorial ruin many cutscenes? I noticed it changed a few at the start and I don't want to miss cool stuff.
>>145569529
I just started too, and I've only lost one soldier across 6 or so missions. I have had a number of serious injuries, however.Fuck those ADVENT mech dudes with their incendiary mortars.
If you haven't built the Guerilla Training School and upgraded your squad size already, then you should do so immediately.
That said, I'm really scared of the Black Site mission. I have a feeling it's going to shrek me.
>>145570838
Have you attacked any avatar bases?
I don't often have deaths, but I have so many serious injuries I couldn't fill my increased squad size on many missions near the end.
>>145570828
Doing the tutorial means you get a different first mission and some different flavour text, by the time you reach the blacksite you've experienced all of the tutorial.
Skulljacking the Officer will make a new time of enemy appear. You don't need to do the blacksite as soon as it spawns especially if you're using ballistics.
The secret to the blacksite is to take your time, reinforcements don't spawn till you grab the mountain dew.
Reminder that Xcom 2 is shit.
>"aliens" no longer look like aliens
>no ethereals as enemies
>no SHIVS
>no airgame
>less enemy types than the first game
>>145571051
Oh boy, here we go again.
>>145571051
>>"aliens" no longer look like aliens
I know this is shitposting but so much this.
ADVENT are bland as fuck, I miss toids.
>>145571202
You know the ayys are designed to look like they were fused with humans right?
>>145571035
>by the time you reach the blacksite
I assumed that was only meant to be tackled once you're at max tech and fully promoted? I landed there once and it looked impossible so I noped right out.
Yeah, I skulljacked an officer once and lost horribly, just wondering if doing it right is even worth it.
>>145571051
>aliens don't look like aliens
I dunno, Sectoids look pretty badass to me. And I swear this has more enemy types? It certainly feels like a more diverse and fucking invincible enemy force.
>>145566976
nvm i'm an idiot, Its in-game calendar
>>145571314
Ofcourse but that doesn't stop them being bland.
The idea to become resistance fighters in an alien occupied planet (but one where Humans are still the indigenous species) was a step backwards in the aesthetics department, not to mention how it threw out all the 'horror' aspects EU had.
>>145570954
Not yet. That sounds like a step above the Blacksite.
Right now I have two Gravely Wounded with 10+ days of recovery remaining, and one Lightly Wounded with 1 day recovery.
>>145571202
ADVENT Officers are /fa/ as fuck, though. That fuggin scarf.
>>145571418
holy shit
>>145571361
Blacksite is fine once you've got mag (t2) weapons, theres a fair few pods but you have unlimited time to kill them.
>>145571465
I'm going to humour your shitpost, the ayys aren't bland and the game isn't going for horror beside EU was barely creepy as it was, they just aren't to your personal taste.
>>145571571
>I'm going to humour your shitpost
>criticism is shitposting
here we go again
>>145571418
>nvm i'm an idiot, Its in-game calendar
"idiot" seems a bit of an understatement here, anon
>>145571671
Because you do this constantly, you just come here to complain about Xcom 2 in its own general. We've tried to have this discussion countless times. Fuck off back to /v/
>>145571749
To be fair, anon, this isn't the XCOM2 general. It's the all-purpose XCOM general.
>>145571747
tons of games have real world time based achievements tho
>>145571860
He doesn't discuss Xcom, he comes here just to shitpost about how much he hates Xcom 2.
>>145571749
>Because you do this constantly, you just come here to complain about Xcom 2 in its own general
Except I've been here since the vanilla EU days you bumbling retard.
I know who you are talking about and I will not let you use the /v/ shitposting boogeyman as a shield of criticism for the game.
None of my posts ever indicated shitposting but a crticism of the art style compared to the previous game, rather than open a dialogue about it you'll just call me and possibly others 'shitposters' because of your inability to take criticsm.
Fuck you and what you've turned this general into.
Before it was discussion about XCOM now it's just anime retards circlejerking about things barely on-topic and playing the victim.
>It's just one person!
No it''s really not.
>>145570503
fuck off retard
>>145572109
No you. You clearly have not been in this general long enough.
>>145572082
Except you never actually discuss the game, whenever you post you derail the general into how much you hate jake for Mad Max rejects. Other regulars have tried to argue with you and just resort to this where you start insulting people. If you want to discuss the old Xcom games fucking discuss them, don't cry about Xcom 2 to try and stir shit.
>>145572082
I agree with the points in this post and I will not use pathetic mental gymnastics to twist these points around to be used in a petty, hollow argument in a vain attempt to "prove" you "wrong".
With sincere regards:
-Moderate Anonymous
>>145572082
>resorting to slinging insults straight away
>spending spare time shitting on games
>i-i'm not the /v/poster
>>145572428
Fuck off retard
>>145572109
You really are new if you're complaining about cyclops poster
I'm not even going to bother, it's pointless to argue.
Let's just go back to being dead and pretend nothing ever happened.How did this place get so bad.
>>145572664
>>145572702
fuck off retards
>>145572751
Console release news brought attention onto Xcom again
>>145572751
newfags didn't bother lurking
the excessive shitposting by bigblockyrejectsanon made the general hostile to discussion
the surge of veee coming here after the console announcement meant some contributors left.
>>145572806
What do you hope to achieve?
>>145573305
some (you)s
>>145573374
Why?
>>145573443
because it makes them feel like their life is validated when people reply
I don't know
>>145573976
People are strange
>start a new run without tutorial
>tfw no Jane Kelly
Where is my Rangerfu
>>145574693
You don't get one
Do the odds of successfully skulljacking improve if you weaken the enemy first, or is it 70% chance regardless?
I also agree that the alien designs took a huge step backwards from EU. I really wish there wasn't such a focus on fighting ADVENT units because I got tired of that only a few hours into my first playthrough.
I have that itch to go back and play EW and fight the classic aliens, most of the new ones don't gel with me, just the Viper and Codex really.
>>145575789
then play EU again
>>145575789
I still think they're fine in X2, they're supposed to look like hybrids and Advent are supposed to look like humans in armour whereas in EU they were supposed to look like actual aliens and not things genetically modified to look half human.
Its apples and oranges, you can prefer the style in EU/EW but its not a step back.
>one enemy remaining
>Codex
>uses AoE disable
>sniper standing in blast zone
>don't bother moving
>use pistol to finish the Codex off
>LOL JK THERE WAS A SECOND FACELESS IN HIDING
>blast zone detonates
>sniper ded
NICE
EPIC
I LIKE IT
Is there a mirror for openxcom mods?
The mod website is ded
>>145577419
Are you trying to acquire a specific one? I think the bigger ones have their own dedicated forums, with stickied posts that have the direct download links.
>>145577505
Yeah I was gonna grab FMP and possibly Piratez
>>145561525
Looks like a scope and a bipod.
Why a sniper would be fighting up close and with his bayonet, and why he has a bayonet fixed in the first place, is an entirely different question.
>>145577337
maybe if you weren't a careless commander they'd still be alive
>>145577337
>getting cocky and arrogant
You deserved it.Now eat your humble pie and git gud you shitter.
>It's a the command pod spawns 5 inches from spawn episode
>>145572751
>xcg will never be like it was before xcom 2 was released
this used to be one of the best generals too.
>>145579569
Better times before 90% of every thread was snake shitposting soldier dressup mods.
>>145579683
Did somebody say snek?
>>145579735
Fuck off cancer
Does the number of missing hit points impact the wound type and number of recovery days, like, at all?
>>145579845
Yup, medkits will not reduce the amount of injury points though
>>145579941
yes
>>145579683
i want v to go and stay go
>>145579941
Add that to the list.
Snake Shitposting
Solider Dress up
Cinematic Screenshots
That's all this general is anymore.
>>145580186
He's right, this general has been absolute shit since Xcom 2 released
>>145580191
Hey fuck you buddy I was posting about X-Piratez the other day and I didn't see people jumping to reply to me.
>>145574958
Always 70%
>>145580292
You know not everyone is online 24/7 right?
>>145580282
I know that's why I want /v/ to go
>>145577892
>>145577968
HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW
>>145580292
How is X-Piratez? I've never played it. How does it compare to vanilla/final mod pack?
>>145580045
Alright. I was starting to wonder after a soldier who was bleeding out got away with 7 days in medbay, and another who lost 2 HP got slapped with two weeks.
>>145580604
the mission isn't over until you're in the motherfucking mission recap screen
if you want to cut corners because you think you're at the end of a mission that's fine but don't think it's not your own fault for getting burned when something comes out of nowhere
I haven't really been paying attention to it, but what the fuck happened to Bagel's L&I for Long War? He didn't post anything for like 5 months and then posted like two videos he recorded back in November and it's total silence again. Does anybody know anything about what the fuck he's doing?
>>145580981
Playing XCom 2 probably
>>145580981
I think he's well and truly burned out on LW. Also addicted to modding.
>>145580981
He was here a week or two ago
>>145580981
>>145581117
Once LW becomes the new vanilla and the vanilla becomes boring, mods will always look more enticing.
>>145580981
Gotta play the new game on twitch for them twitch shekels.
>>145581065
>>145581117
>>145581236
>>145581270
I mean I get him being burned out on it, after autistically playing it in like three different campaigns simultaneously I would be too, but when he released the base raid video he even says something like (I mean it's a recording from November but whatever) "don't worry, no campaign's getting left behind." Then he releases it and it's total silence again.
I just want my goddamn L&I campaign bagel pls.
>>145581761
Of you're willing to trawl the archives he explained his reasoning and plans a week or two ago.
>>145581901
If you or any other anon can remember the gist of what he said and just paraphrase him for me that'd be fine with me, I just want to know, generally, what he's thinking and what the plan for continuing it is.
>>145582089
I can't remember sadly, I just skimmed through it as it happened while I was asleep.
>>145581901
would this be on one of the Twitch vods? When he's playing xcom? I'll probably go watch his xcom vods a couple weeks back, got nothing better to do. Kind of interested in what he said myself
>>145582563
It was on /xcg/
>>145580680
It's got a metric shitload of weapons, many of which are unique to certain factions of enemies. It feels a lot more open ended and long than vanilla and you don't feel like you're on a timer. It is quite a bit harder to get things done in the early game since you only have a 6 seater unarmed flying bus and a handful of muskets. I'll try to do a run-down of the major factions:
The Academy - The Star Gods' information gatherers. They usually use ballistic weapons and harpoon guns that fire stun bolts. Usually not well armored. You can steal medical shit from them.
Orison Security - Sub-division of the Academy, also use ballistics but sometimes use energy weapons. Have armor roughly equivalent of Personal Armour.
Trader's Guild: Ballistics and Kevlar armor, their ships usually carry shit like chemicals, scrap metal, food, and other goods. You can raid their warehouses. Very rarely have energy weapons.
Dark Ones - Doom Demons, enough said.
Deep Ones - Lovecraft fishmen. Have high inherent armor but low tech weapons. They do have celatids and weapons that shoot celatid acid too though. Also Lobstermen who shrug off RPG shells.
Humanists - Nazis and Klansmen with ropes, clubs, axes, and guns.
Reticulans - Sectoids that have essentially been reduced to fending for themselves. Often carry energy weapons but have shit armor.
Spartans - Paramilitaries with high powered ballistic weapons.
Cult of Sirius - Cultists that worship the Ethereals. You'll raid their temples a lot. Take care not to slaughter the civilians during these missions, it pisses off the world governments you extort money from.
Once you get a proper interceptor craft you'll be able to shoot down small civilian ships, take their crew hostage with non-lethal weapons, and sell off their contents. Small Ship Engines go for $100,000 a piece which is damn good money for such an easy target.
Pistols are Useful.
>>145583090
Memes? Check
Action screenshot? Check
Soldier Dress up? Check
>>145582781
Did he post with a name or something?
>>145582969
Is there a way to get rid of the annoying pirate speak on the menus?
>>145583582
I think he was just posting as anon
>>145583930
That would take a lot of autism crawling through the archives. I'm not up to it.
>>145584156
I don't blame you, if it wasn't for the seeming massive shift in people using this general over the past week or so you'd have an answer.
>>145583159
Just as bad.
>>145583090
Anyone found a mod yet that allows the combination of foream and fullbody clothes?
The ability to have the recon's rolled-up sleeves combined with the forearm's bullet holster would be fucking perfect for a sharpshooter.
>>145584229
If i remember somewhat well i think he was in anon.
>>145583159
Swords are Useful.
Which is better for Apocalypse, real time or turn based?
AlsoOpen-Apoc when?
EXALT
X
A
L
T
>>145587023
dress up
memes
action screenshot
>>145587960
type
like
this
>>145583714
Not that I know of.
I'm about to start the Black Site mission for the first time.
If I don't make it, tell my waifu I love her.
>>145588658
I'll make sure to get it done, buddy.
>>145588658
Your waifu should be at the blacksite with you, anon
>>145588746
kek
>>145554335
>But like, how do you even remember what any given soldier can do at that point?
perfect information mods that show all the abilities and perks and shit for my troops andcaring way too much about all my soldiers and what they can do
I know im really late but i have a question about the new avatar doom clock thing
>lets say i let the clock tick down to 2 days before i assault a facility, does this mean the next time the doom bar fills up, i only have 2 days until alien victory?
>do i atleast get a minimum number of days after each reset?
>>145594030
It's not an "avatar". That's XCOM propaganda. The peaceful moderate aliens are raising skinwalkers.
I wouldn't worry about it.
>>145595139
wow this general is dead af
Shen's last gift when
>>145587023
BASED
A
S
E
DAre you saxon stronk guy from /twg/
Blacksite successfully cleared, lads!
The mission was going smooth as butter until my sniper triggered a pod of two sneks and a sectoid when she was dashing to catch up to the rest of the squad. She got dumpstered and everything went to hell as new pods were triggered in succession, but once we got our hands on the vial we were back in control.
My Ranger got Death From Above. I'm not sure how useful that will be, but it's something at least.
>>145596686
Thats a very low resolution
OUR ENEMY HAS BEEN REINFORCED WITH A BEHEMOTH
>>145596959
It runs fine in high quality 1080, but my GPU was hitting 65C so I decided to play it safe.
>blacksite only reduces the doomclock by 1
what the FUG
I figured it would be 3 blocks or even a full clear, so I wasn't too concerned. Now I've got the clock sitting at 6 with no immediate solution since I haven't built a communications thing yet.
>>145599115
Story objectives and avatar facilities also reduce it
>>145599461
not him, but i wanted to ask
what about [beware story spoilers]the shadow chamber projects?
>>145601776
I think some of them reduce it and some of them give you places to attack which in turn reduce it.
>>145601909
so only [story spoilers]the forge subject, the psi-gate, and avatar autopsy projects?
>>145602137
I think the Forge and the gate require them to be hit while the autopsy takes a node off but as soon as you complete that you can do the endgame missions.
Tanks?
>>145604350
Areuseless
>mech launches bullshit incendiary mortar from six miles away on top of two of my dudes hiding near a car
>one of them gets critted
>sets the car on fire
>whole time my hacked turret on overwatch does nothing
>car blows up as soon as my turn starts
>two of my best dudes and the VIP are instantly blown to bloody bits
nice FUCKING GAME
>>145604350
My nigga
>>145607141
>>whole time my hacked turret on overwatch does nothing
Why would it?
also
>using cars as cover
>using the same car as cover for multiple people
>>145607141
>>mech launches bullshit incendiary mortar from six miles away on top of two of my dudes hiding near a car
>>near a car
You deserved it, desu.
>>145607141
>stacking soldiers near each other
>using cars as cover
>thinking overwatch reacts to everything
>>145607141
Rule #1: Half cover is no cover.
Rule #2: An unexploded car is worse than no cover.
>>145607730
Using a car as cover for one guy I could understand, stacking 3 guys next to an unexploded car while a MEC is on the field is impressive.
>>145607947
Rule #3: ded general
>>145609984
you're a ded general
now go back to /v/
ayy lmao
>>145610486
>you're a ded general
rude
>now go back to /v/
double rude
I'll call your parents!
>>145610921
>always hit 20% shots
>always miss 84% flank shots
what da fug
>that split moment when you wait to see if your favorite soldier was just killed or merely bleeding out
>>145611083
i feel you mate
>>145611083
>getting attached to your soldierswhy am i like this, it makes this game so hard
I think my biggest problem with X2 so far is how so many missions have turn limits.
They gave us this neat mechanic for scouting and setting up ambushes, but if you actually take the time to get into a good position, you don't even have enough turns left to kill everything.
4-6 dudes
12 ayys
with
2 dudes to kill an ayy
2-3 ayys per turn
so
4-6 turns to kill all ayys
plus
1-2 turns to escape
that's
5-8 turns
except that the enemy's turns count so it's really
10-16 turns
You basically have to start killing from the moment you touch ground.
>>145611514
I get crazy attached to mine, because I can't help but assign backstories, personalities and relationships to them in my head. Honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way, because it means XCOM delivers an emotional experience unlike what most other games can ever come close to.
>>145611083
Is it just me or is bleeding out significantly less common in X2?
I haven't had it happen even once so far.
>>145611562
Get the "True Concealment" cheat.
>>145611562
that and the call evac wherever you want mechanic also feels unused because the toughest missions where you need to evac you cant set it up your self and on the rest of the missions you pretty much need to kill all ayys (except facility missions that one is ok)
>>145611562
the turn limit feels really awkward even with >>145611775
why even have a concealment mechanic if everything is based on the assumption that ADVENT already kinda knows you're there
>>145611562
You just have to git gud
>>145611514i grew so attached to a sharpshooter that when she got killed i added her to the character pool (with the memorial pool mod) change her colors to black and white, tinted her uniform with tundra pattern, gave her the skull bandana, some scars, an eyepatch and the hard luck attitude and now pretend she is a vengeful spirit that hates advent and wont get back her original appearance until she does the final mission and survivesshe hasnt yetits been so long i no longer remember how she was
>>145605152
Nice art. Saved.
>>145612050
Advent know you're in the vicinity, they have no clue where you actually are.
>>145611707
It is strangely rare, especially since it synergizes so well with the body carrying mechanic and improvised evac. So I have a mod that makes it more common, had to haul one soldier out and make a mad dash to stabilize another today, after a site assault went down the shitter in a hurry.
>>145611046
You areboth lucky and unlucky
>>145612429
I like that. What's her nickname, Ghost? White Lady? Onryo?
>>145577569
Piratez: http://www.mediafire.com/download/kymo4d2vv335d7f/OpenXcom_XPiratez_0_99.rar
FMP:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4cbj4y4drdryrrx/Final_Mod_Pack_1.9.3.zip
>>145612789
grave digger
funny thing is, thats the nickname the game gave her
>>145573976
We dont need validation for our posts.
Seriously, you are the retard here
>>145611046
Thaaaaaat's xcom, baby!
>>145612429
>>145611631
That's really great, Anons. I make a lot of friends in my character pools and try to make them the best I can.Every death hurts.
>>145613737
>>145613873why do you do this, anoni want to get off mr. bones wild ride
>>145613873
>that scroll bar
war is hell
>>145613873
Are you purposely killing off your guys or something
>>145614028
>>145614064
modcom can be rough
>>145614210
was seeing how far i could get with just conventional
What happened to the anon doing the IG helmet before release? I know there's the ported karsakin helm, but its not the same man.
>>145571051
>>no airgame
I thought you were supposed to be listing negatives, shitpost-anon
>>145614628
Go home loyalist dog
>>145614628
With camo, I can finally make tactical IG a thing
>>145614930
How about you first, chaos scum.
>>145614930
>most of those soldiers can be recreated with AC dlc
is firaxis tainted with chaos?
>>145605152
Oh good, something to add to my list of objectively wrong things.
>>145593123
What are the best of those classes, in terms of balance and fit with the rest?
>>145615295
Multipass
>>145615490
Yes, all praise.
>>145571051
Reminder that XCOM 2 is great!
>mod support
>procedurally generated maps
>customization increased tenfold
>more enemy types
>more elevation in maps
>destructible environments
>no airgame
>Tygan
>>145615713
absolute best imo are infantry, shock trooper, anarchist, brawler, and guerilla. but that's because to me what they bring to the table is very unique compared to the other classes even if they use the same weapons.Samurai tries very hard to make melee gud. It doesn't quite succeed, but it tries very hard.
Are there any uprez mods for open xcom?
>>145616181
Half of that shit is factually wrong, or features that already existed.
>>145616597
None of it is "factually wrong"
>>145616682
>more enemy types
EW had more enemies than X2
>destructible environments
like other anon said this was already in EU/EW
That Reichsrevolver M1883 looks like a fucking pain to reload
https://youtu.be/9MFwTXckfZg?t=1m
>>145616505
All those are solid, though I dislike the Anarchist personally. You should give the Fury a try by the way, it's an interesting take on someone with 3 AP.Samurai is fucking sick, you shut up.
>>145617013
EW was an expansion that came out more than a year after the base game, and even then there were only a couple more enemies than what X2 has.
Okay, fine, I should have specified "increased destructibility". Good?
>>145617013
>EW had more enemies than X2
EW: 18 (even counting repeats, zombies and Uber Ethereal)
X2: 19
>like other anon said this was already in EU/EW
it was, but X2 system is better, EW maps had indestructible parts and couldn't take out the floor unlike X2
>>145617656
You forgot advent m8. Also there is indestructible terrain in X2.
>>145617768
Exalt rather not advent.
>>145617768
>>145618097
yea you are right, the ufopedia page doesnt list them, so thats 22 enemies EW and 19 X2
>>145617656
>EW
>Sectoids
>Thin men
>Outsider
>Floaters
>Heavy Floaters
>Drone
>Cyberdisk
>Sectopods
>Mechtoids
>Sectoid commander
>Chryssalid
>Muton
>Muton elite
>Berseker
>Ethereal
>Seeker
>Exalt Operative
>Exalt Medic
>Exalt Heavy
>Exalt Sniper
>Exalt Elite Operative
>Exalt Elite Medic
>Exalt Elite Heavy
>Exalt Elite Sniper
>24
>X2
>Advent Trooper
>Advent Officer
>Advent Stun Lancer
>Advent Shieldbearer
>Advent MEC
>Viper
>Muton
>Sectoid
>Faceless
>Chryssalid
>Archon
>Andromedon
>Codex
>Gatekeeper
>Andromedon Shell
>Sectopod
>Viper King
>Berseker Queen
>Archon King
>Avatar
>20
>>145618586
Again, EW was an expansion. X2 has more enemy types than EU. EW will be relevant to this comparison in about a year or so.
>>145618586
>counts the elite versions of exalt
>not the heavy and elite versions of advent
>>145618870
Exalt normal/elites have different perks and gene mods.
Heavy and elite advent just do extra damage and have more HP.
>>145618586
>Counting EXALT elites but not ADVENT elites.
Stop lying anon and include those five as well, or don't include the EXALT ones. If you include ADVENT elites, you get 24 to 25. If you cut the EXALT ones, you get 20 to 20.
Also, comparing EW to X2 is unfair and you know it. EW was a full expansion after more than a year of development. X2 is 3 months old. Compare vanilla to vanilla, you get 16 for EU (no EXALT) and 17 for X2 (no Alien Hunters).
It's pretty close either way, but at least be equitable about it, anon.
>>145618586
Do Floaters and Heavy Floaters really count as separate enemies? They are about as different from each other as the various "tiers" of Advent troops.
>>145618586
ok now lets remove the "same shit but bigger" enemies from both games
>EW
>Sectoids
>Thin men
>Outsider
>Floaters
>Drone
>Cyberdisk
>Sectopods
>Mechtoids
>Chryssalid
>Muton
>Berseker
>Ethereal
>Seeker
>Exalt Operative
>Exalt Medic
>Exalt Heavy
>Exalt Sniper
>17
>X2
>Advent Trooper
>Advent Stun Lancer
>Advent Shieldbearer
>Advent MEC
>Viper
>Muton
>Sectoid
>Faceless
>Chryssalid
>Archon
>Andromedon
>Codex
>Gatekeeper
>Andromedon Shell
>Sectopod
>Viper King
>Berseker Queen
>Archon King
>Avatar
>19both are great games tho, so lets drop this discussion
>>145618586
>count heavy floaters and the elite exalt variants that didn't matter at all outside of LW
>don't count the ADVENT upgrades
if the argument is the heavy floater matters more because it gains a grenade then that would also apply to ADVENT's upgrades
also you forgot the heavy mec for ADVENT and the berserker, on top of us comparing and expansion to a base game
>>145618961
EXALT elites actually had diferents abilities/perks and gene mods instead of just doing extra damage and more hp like advent elites
>>145619292
Holy shit, is the "dude holding his face" meme all from that one picture of Tom Cruise laughing?
>>145619450
yes, i'd post more if i had sorted them as a i saved them
i'm sure i have at least 13 variants of it
>>145619143
>advent
>using grenades
>Ever
wew
>>145619813
I don't know about you, but those assholes have been chucking nades at me regularly since the May patch. Could be my AI mod, though.
>>145619971
It's the AI mods. I've legitimately never seen them ever toss a grenade with their default AI.
>>145619971
are you using "a better AI"?
Does Covering Fire apply to Kill Zone overwatch shots?
>send Ranger into a pack of Berserker, Shieldbearer, and Advanced Trooper
>realize he doesn't have bladestorm yet
hello darkness my old friend
>>145616181
>tygan
>when we could've had doctor vahlin
no anon, you're wrong
>>145617427
that's fair, anon. i like anarchist just because limited ammo and tactical cover destruction makes me think harder. i like it. not so sold on Fury though.It's sick, but melee itself is still not gud. Not samurai's fault, just how xcom is. It's still a better attempt than Ranger though.
>>145620027
.
I think the vanilla AI is hardwired to never throw grenades unless it's going to hit at least two soldiers. I'm certain that it happened to me at least a couple of times before I started modding the game.
>>145619349
And they're also from the damned expansion pack, so I don't see how they're being considered here or why anyone should give a shit about your petty bullshit
>>145620134
I think that's it, yes. Not at my PC at the moment.
>>145619550
Do you know what this meme spawned from from? I don't even know what to call it to google it.
>>145620993
thats pacha from emperors new groove
>>145620993
Try googling laughing faces meme. That gave me some.
>>145620259
>that's fair, anon. i like anarchist just because limited ammo and tactical cover destruction makes me think harder. i like it. not so sold on Fury though.
Yeah, Anarchist is interesting for sure, but I'd personally like a weapon backup. If it could do its grenade thing along with using a pistol or something, I'd like that.
Fury is extremely strange, but I personally really enjoy it.
>It's sick, but melee itself is still not gud. Not samurai's fault, just how xcom is. It's still a better attempt than Ranger though.Melee has many issues, but Samurai solves most of them (Untouchable, huge movement speed, hits very hard, improved accuracy, etc). It's not perfect, but it is pretty solid. Tack on a melee aim fix and you're basically golden.
>>145620993
>WhenTheAcidIsJustRight.png
>>145622123
Filename updated.
There are so many good looking xcom style games coming out in the next few years.
Phoenix point, xenonauts 2, the Xcom 2 expansion, battletech by hare brain
>>145622659
>battletech by hare brain
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>145622803
Every time I see that picture, I just stare at the guy in the bottom left. We are stuck in an eternal stare.
>>145622803
>tfw I came here from /btg/ to talk about XCOM
>tfw I have the full flight jacket kickstarter gear coming in the mail
>tfw I'm spending the next three days playing BattleTech at a con for 12 hours a day
BattleTech is my jam, anons, along with XCOM. You wanna talk BattleTech?
>>145621303
Get grimy's utility sidearms mod, that patches the issue if it bugs you.Yeah I guess, but popped pods is still the easiest way to fuck over a squad and there is no fix for that.
>>145623539
Can i have half of the jacket I have a timberwolf kinects toy form the 90s
>>145623539
>tfw I have no face because I'm a retard
>>145622803
>>145623539
i dont have idea what battletech is
but i would like to know
>>145623539
There's a /btg/??
>go to
>>145590126
oh. ohhh.
>>145624367
...not even close, you fucking ayylmao. It's over on /tg/. You know, the traditional gaming board, where traditional games like Battletech are discussed.
>>145623539
fav mech my nig
>>145624465
You mean the warhammer 40k board?
That's where x(-)com used to be talked about. Until they chased it off to here. I'm still bitter.Has it gotten better?
>>145624872
Mackie, famalam. If you want a mech that actually exists in any era other than OG Star League, than either of the two in pic related (King Crab on left and custom Hunchie on right, both most excellent). You can see part of my ComGuard battalion in the background.
>>145624952
/tg/'s a great board, and my home one, but 40kiddies are still unbelievable faggots about everything, sorry anon. We actually, rarely, have XCOM threads.
>pic related to /tg/ being excellent, even our namefags are passable
>>145625325
woah
>>145625137
And here's the entire battalion, if anyone cares. The Mackie is in the back row, second from the left (it's the fat spaceman).
>>145623909
Well there is a video game and a table top which were you wondering about
>>145626342
the video game
i am not into table tops
>>145626469
The new one being made is a turn based strategy game like xcom and shadowrun, the old ones are a mech sim game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMlJQ0G3zk4
>>145625325
Heh, I remember that picture getting posted.
Have you read the novels? This trilogy is pretty good.
40k fags will be autistic, I guess. I've been browsing it and it looks pretty good again so far. I left maybe a year, year and a half ago.
>>145623909
Basically tactical battles with giant mechs piloted by humans during wartime. It's pretty badass but has a history of being opaque to newcomers due to the very detailed system.
The last Battletech video game released that was any good was over 10 years ago IIRC, so it's not as popular as it once was.
>>145625459
/xcg/ has had its moments too. There was one time in January before XCOM 2 was released, back when BureauAnon was posting his playthrough, when some kind anon gifted a full copy of the game to someone else here. (Wish I had saved screenshots of it...)
>>145626674
Madcat a best
>>145626915
my nigga
>>145626674
>mechs
>like xcom
i need this
>>145627073
Its just that look is so nice, its also a really solid mech gameplay wise, at least in the mechwarrior I played. MkII is pretty sweet as well.
>>145627739
Completely agree with you on that one but perhaps we should shift back to xcom talk.
>>145628139
There's no such thing as "on topic" in /xcg/
But yeah sure, y not.
>>145628139
What xcom talk?
>>145628426
True but I feel bad for the others.
>>145628524
Yeah... what have you done in xcom as of late?
Should i go back and play Og X-com or mod it or something as I havent done either.
>>145620174
I don't believe it does. What I do know 100% is that Covering Fire given by a specialists aid protocol does not work at squadsight.
>>145616580
>uprez
Have no idea what that is.
>>145594030
I think its a mimimum days after reset, but I'm pretty sure that's only like 6-7 days.
>>145628629
I just got a base defense in PirateZ so I'm currently crying.
>>145628796
Can you win in PirateZ I have no idea what it is other than a mod for x-com
>>145628793
Go back and play it for sure. Beat it at least once (ironman/honestman preferably, honestly its more forgiving then the new xcom when it comes to messing up). The gameplay is excellent, strategy layer/base management is nice, and the atmosphere is fun.
Make sure your using openxcom, its the best way to play. (You still need the original game files, so either find a place to download or pick up a cheap copy somewhere).
Once you beat that, go try some of the big overhaul mods like PirateZ, FMP, and there's a third one I'm not remembering right now. Also take this pic so you know how to maneuver this battlescape.
>>145629045
Yes you can win. Win conditions are still pretty much the same as og x-com as far as I can tell, just its alot more complicated getting there. Build a space worthy ship so you can go kick the Ethereal's asses on their own turf. However, you actually need to gather specific parts to build the ship, get security data/access cards from all the major factions and probably find them in the first place. I wouldn't know, I've got like 60 hours in my current campaign (guesstimate) and I haven't even started on that checklist.
Also this post details some more info: >>145582969
>>145629419
That UI is scaring me but il do it thanks for the info
>>145629671
Yeah the UI is less than newbie friendly. Also, go read up basic info on UFOpedia, they have tons of info, and good reads on the mechanics.
>>145629882
Do I have to treat this like longdong also can i fail missions and recover
>>145630098
>Do I have to treat this like longdong
I what way?
>>145630098
>also can i fail missions and recover
You can skip entire missions and be fine. You can lose all 14 of your soldiers, all their equipment, and your skyranger and still win.
Just don't lose base defenses, or the final mission.
>>145618586
>counting the kings and queens and avatars as enemy types
Kill yourself.
>>145630189
Overwatch trap everything
>>145630583
>Overwatch
I consider reaction fire a shit tier tactic in x-com 90% of the time.
>medium UFO in April
>>145630726
Noted
>>145630872
Smoke grenades are also the most powerful item in the entire game. Night missions are just cosmetic, they reduce your vision, but not aliens. Use flares to counteract (also avoid them when possible).
Read the section of how reactionfire works so you don't get screwed by it (on ufopedia).
>>145631134
meant to say night missions aren't cosmetic
>>145631278
currently installing
>>145626907
>that qt Bureau sectoid
>>145633354
:(
Sectoids: the buttmonkeys of the xcom universe.
>>145633790
In Xcom Apocalypse they are kept in cages to be eaten since they are considered a delicacy to the extra-dimensional aliens.
>Using Success based force level
>Also using 'All pods activate'
>Finally scraped into May
>Terror mission starts
>Land at LZ
>Berserker pod activates
>Chrysalid pod activates
>Heavy MEC pod activates
>Elite ADVENT Officer pod activates
>Run into the Officer pod first
>Pod has 2 Heavy Lancers and 2 Elite Troopers
>Slog my way through Officer pod with my shitty laser weapons
>Berserker pod and Heavy MEC pod hit me
>Berserker pod has 2 Mutons and 1 Sectoid
>MEC pod has 1 Muton Centurion and 3 Heavy Lancers
>Barely last one turn, more than half my team is dead
>Chrysalid pod arrives
>Evac
Didn't need Western Europe anyway
>>145634746
sounds about right
PISTOLS
>>145637357
ARE
>>145637786
USEFUL
this is something for all the honest man players, this mod lets you delete all save files with one button
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=704059463&searchtext=
Has anyone tried Even More Maps? Some of the things there look nice, but there isn't much
>>145624952
>>145625325
>it's a "crying that there's a lot of 40k on a board that was created specifically made for 40k" episode
I don't even play warhams, but ya'll are babies.
>>145640928
>on a board that was created specifically made for 40k
>created specifically made for 40k
What did he mean by this?
Haven't followed XCOM 2 for a while, how are DLCs? Any good mods I should grab that are not on the /xcg/ recommended mod list?
>>145640101
I run all three of the map mods I know of, and it has spiced things up a bit. None of them make dramatic changes, and it's hard to even tell unless you've played a lot or are looking for the new stuff specifically.
>>145642347
The DLCs thus far are meh at best. I personally don't really care for Alien Hunters. The big DLC, which will add a 6th class, is coming Soon(tm).
The mods there are a good start, beyond that everyone likes things slightly differently.
>>145641015
/tg/ was specifically made for created started just for 40k, as a result of Warhammer Wednesdays going to war with furfaggots on /b/.
They should make a total halo conversion mod instead of sectors on earth they could be planets and iirc i remember on twittter one of the devs said the main map could be modded as well
don't die /xcg/, kill ayys instead.
>>145645482
Do not worry we are simply napping
>>145596484
>Are you saxon stronk guy from /twg/no
I wish to pet a snek
>>145650258
>8
Not again
>throw grenade at max distance
>lands on target, damages ADVENT trooper and removes his cover
>the tree the thrower was standing behind is destroyed
What.
Do your soldiers' entire bodies turn into wrecking ball hitboxes that demolish everything they touch when they attack?
>>145651140
That's a bug, grenades destroy the environment between you and your target.
It was 'fixed' in the last patch but does occasionally still happen.
>>145650294
hahahahahha fuck
this ride never ends
What happens if you stay and keep fighting inthe base defense mission? Do battleships suddenly arrive and you get insta-game over'd?
>>145651267
Thanks, anon.
>>145650258
Is the Workshop rescuing us in this picture, or abducting us?
>>145652060
Nevermind, I googled it.
>nothing special happens
Pretty lame senpai desu
I should have stayed and grinded experience. Those reinforcements were chumps.
>>145652752
The reinforcements should keep escalating endlessly until they are airdropping Gatekeepers and Sectopods on us two at the time. As it is, a sharpshooter and a phantom ranger turns the whole thing into easymodo.
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>>145657381
Your ass sounds like it knows its stuff.
>>145657381
The DLC isn't finished yet, according to a dev on /r/xcom
>Berserker Queen
>It's a berserker with a billion health
>that takes actions every time you take an action
that's pretty epic
>when you throw a Sectoid get-together and terrorists attack
>>145652509
depends on your view
Death to ayy, behead those who insult XCOM
>>145663239
As you will.
>tfw playing the Hostile Territory mod missions
FUCKING SPECIALISTS
>>145616505
I don't see "Brawler" on the workshop
>>145665345
>Hostile Territory
How is it?
>>145666247
Done one mission so far, was pretty fun. I'm interested to see how the AI handles the more advanced versions as I go along. There were a couple of great moments as my Ranger and an enemy one got into a Bladestorm competition, and me racing to assassinate a specialist before he could heal a second specialist who had hidden.
>>145634746
New mod comp includes:
All Pods Active (on reveal all enemies attack)
Increased Enemy Squad Size
Advent Officer call reinforcements
Attrition Mode (limited Xcom ammo and unlimited enemy reinforcements)
Grimy's turn timer (60 seconds countdown to complete your turn)
Decide to test on Commander level.
> Operation Gatecrasher start on roof - good!
> Activate on turn one during gold move - hidden civilian in building, (rushing because of timers) fuuu...
> Jockey for position and put 2 on overwatch. Enemy count 8
> Over watch kills 1 firefight ensues.
> 3 turns later kill 5 more 2 wounded X-COM Advent officer and trooper left.
> Flank trooper kills got on him and grenade officer x2. Not enough dmg. (Cover absorbs dmg mod & grenade dmg fall off)
> Officer calls reinforcement and attrition mod calls for reinforcement. Fuuu...
> Kill officer kill 2 reinforcements with overwatch but now ammo is getting low. Enemy count 6.
> Kill 2 more run out of ammo on one X-COM 1 X-COM bleeding out (mod) 2 panic due to corrosion mod enemy count 4.
>Advent Officer calls reinforcements another X-COM dead. Total enemies 8.
>Overrun will killing one more attrition mod calls reinforcement total enemies 11.
Could not escape due to win condition kill all enemies
Total enemies faced 24
>>145669508
So the attrition mod makes "kill all advent" missions impossible?Holy fuck this general has been dead recently.
>>145669508
How much ammo does attrition mode give you anyway?
>>145671418
Sure sounds like it.ye
>Was going to do a base assault hours before the new month starts so ayys don't get bonus resources from it
>planned this shit like 2 in game weeks in advance, stated clearly the entire time that the skeleton key would be done before the council report
>10 hours before report suddenly it will be done aftergiveitem Skeleton_Key
>>145672870
Hmmm, wonder if that's ever happened with my sat production.
>>145672870
>giveitem Skeleton_Key
Thats an acceptable use of the console anon
>>145671418
No you just ave to kill em all before another wave of reinforcements appear. if all are dead and no incoming you get credit. I completed gatecrasher with 12 killed and one death next time out. I had some good luck (got enemy captain quick and some bad heavily wounded soldier had to take cover behind a truck - (only full cover near) and it exploded on final advents missed shot.
>>145672438
8 additional shots besides original mag
>>145673570
That is a very small quantity of ammo. I'm sure it can work gameplay wise, but conceptually I don't like it.
>>145673941
It forces you to consider what sots youre going to take yes ...2 reloads. I have only played wit it some but so far its fun.
The mod also adds items via grimy's loot mod to add ammo on occasion.
>>145674167
Also can edit it via ini - I might if I run into too many baddies but 12 sots per trooper seems fair.
New beag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK2vMf5yGkw
>>145674465
>xcom 2
Into the trash it goes
>>145674517
Get over yourself
>>145674465
DOOM PLAYTHROUGH WHENI kind of find it hard to enjoy these videos because there's such a disconnect with old Beags vs. current beags if your watching the streams.
>>145674556
His XCOM 2 youtube series is pretty trash. And it never took off anyways so people are not invested into it enough to care.
>>145674881
Hard to make a not trash video about a trash game.
>>145674773
>there's such a disconnect with old Beags vs. current beags
Yeah, can't wait for him upload the rest of the first X2 campaign and start a Guerrilla War series or continue the Longer Donger campaing, because he sounds a bit bored of vanilla Xcom 2 in this current playthrough
>>145674773
>there's such a disconnect with old Beags vs. current beags
Yeah, can't wait for him to upload more ArmA videos.
>>145675101
I'd say focus on finishing Long Dong for the youtube videos and keep going on guerrilla war for the streams. And of course release the videos for the other games he keeps teasing us with.
The issue with the current X2 series for me is I feel like I'm going over old ground that's already been covered. He already finished a legendary vanilla on stream, I'm 99% sure he's going to have no issue finishing this playthrough with close to zero casualties (lack of tension), and it doesn't feature that tight editing style which can jazz up content to be more interesting (which in this case I feel would be necessary). The gameplay just feels old, with all the changes in game balance through patches and Beagles own evolution in how he discusses and understands the game.
The original X2 videos pre-release were pretty awesome.
>>145671418
This shit is seriously difficult. I doubled the timer on the reinforcements coming from attrition mod (6 turns instead of 3) - still fucking brutal. You cannot afford to get drawn into firefights AT ALL - no wasted time is the goal. Ambushes have to be alpha strikes and you don't have excessive time to set them up or bullshit. Plus playing with 60 seconds to decide per turn really adds to the pressure. This was the 2nd mission of game. Perhaps I should start with squadsize 6. I have more squad size upgrades mod tho so I dunno. That makes final squad size 10 which seems like X-Com would be rolling deep in the late game.
Going to restart again I guess and see how it goes with squadsize 4.
>>145676674
>Plus playing with 60 seconds to decide per turn
I feel like it would be really hard to balance an experience while using this.
>>145677695
Can tweak it via ini as well to whatever. I might try 90 secs, but that's about as far as I would go. Otherwise whats the point?
The timer isn't the hardest part. That just adds tension (Also because you don't see how many turns you have left on the mission - replaced by countdown timer, altho its pretty easy to judge.) It's the all pods active mod forcing me into long firefights at this point. Makes it hard to accomplish the mission on maps with an objective of kill all enemies. I think if I go back and have a perfect Gatecrasher so one has 4 Squaddies it may help. I had 1 KIA and 2 wounded - going back and starting over seeing if that makes a difference.
>adding even more timers to x2
wew
>>145679232
Its a good thing that everyone doesn't have to like what you do huh?
>>145679417
B-but how else will I complain about mad max rejects and big blocky armour!
>>145674976
Xcom2 is bad? Elaborate
Hello Fellow commanders,
Saturday /xcg/ will be playing /ink/ in the /vg/ league 6 RO16.
I want to know i you guys want to change or add some music for the team.
Our current music:
Anthem www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztpwb6kOMUc
Goalhorn www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtyvh-DeQYs
Victory music www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrHuxRfXb2s
Beaglerush brace horn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve0PfpFRl8M
>>145682637
Its EW with all the difficulty, complexity and design taken out.
>>145682637
Please don't. Surely you can sate your curiosity by just scrolling further up in the thread.
>>145682679
As long as the Goalhorn stays the same, I am content.
I was looking around the SDK for some stuff and i saw these ui rank textures, there's no actual texture or you can't see them or something, but they have names and the path says "UILibrary_DLC3Images"
>>145683189
>cavalier
>champion
>paladin
Intriguing...
>>145683189
medieval mech knights confirmed
>>145682637
It has fewer enemy types than EW.
Destructible floors are a meme and just add yet another laggy pause to the game.
The strategy layer is literally just driving around in way-too-close-to-real-time with no nuance, complexity, or choice.
Avatars are a fucking stupid design for an enemy, let alone a final boss.
You are forced to end the game by the doom ticker, unlike every other previous xcom game.
Related, they turned to putting timers on everything instead of doing actual game design.
Never thought I'd say this, but LW did so much right and was so much better designed than either Firaxis game.
>>145683189
>squire
>cavalier
>knight
>vanguard
>templar
>paladin
>champion
What do you guys think the rank tree will be? This is a random guess, I don't know enough details on these terms for a completely educated guess.
>>145684751
>Never thought I'd say this, but LW did so much right and was so much better designed than either Firaxis game.
Well you still should be ashamed for saying it.
>>145684751
Fucking this, it amazes me people can actually say Xcom 2 is anything approaching a good game.
>there's advent videogames
>>145684751
Even worse then the usual criticisms. Once again comparing X2 to EW for some contrived reason. Destructible floors aren't a meme, they are a gameplay mechanic that add to the game. X1 has no nuance in its strategy layer either. Who the hell wants to drag out the lategame for any xcom game it sucks for every single title, and I'm pretty sure you can still extend the X2 campaign out to two years if you really want (why would you want too?). Timers are game design, you might not like that mechanic, but a game mechanic can't be "not game design" that's impossible.
>>145685359
>there's advent videogames
So they finally moved past their lsd balls huh. I wonder what themes they have.
>>145684751
>but LW did so much right and was so much better designed than either Firaxis game.
Thats not really saying much
>>145685701
>comparing a game to an earlier title is contrived
I should work apply to work for Firaxis and just release smaller and smaller chunks of Enemy unknown.
>>145685875
Your supposed to compare it to EU, not the expansion. As has been said in like the 10 previous conversations. Even if you compare it too EW it stands up fine, but the 'enemy count" of a fully released game with dlc and an expansion is just a cheap shot, X2 will overtake X1 in enemy types by the time Shen's Final gift comes out (most likely) and it won't even have the expansion yet.
>implying X2 is the same game (or the same but smaller) as X1
hilarious
>>145686145
Even vanilla EU has more actual enemy types than Xcom 2.
>>implying X2 is the same game (or the same but smaller) as X1
Actually no, xcom 2 is the same game but with the content and thought stripped out.
>Your supposed to compare it to EU, not the expansion
pic
>>145683189
I'm perfectly fine with this in XCOM 2
>>145683189
>Spark will probably be a melee class
>>145683378
>>145684758
Great, more completely unfitting things lodged into Xcom 2
Is it Beagles yet?
>>145688010
Those are probably the rank names for the new MEC class we're getting with Shen's Last Gift.
>>145688057
3 and a half hours from now.
>>145688160
Still completely unfitting.
>>145684751
All invalidated by the level of mod support they implemented.
That alone makes it objectively a better release.
>>145688246
Nevermind that the MEC-3 suit was Paladin in XCOM I guess...
Reusing stuff from the original is completely unfitting guise.
>>145689097
>a single fitting name is completely comparable to an entire class built around knights
Also
>the original
>>145689087
>M-mods will fix it guys!
Mcfucking kill yourself.
>>145689228
The original of the reboots.
And Warden, Sentinel.
>>145689385
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Warden and sentinel aren't in the SDK and aren't inherently knightly.
>>145689087
>its alright that the game is bad because the community will eventually fix it
>day in and day out /xcg/ has the same people arguing the same points
>it all boils down to "nuh uh" and they conceive to insult the other until they go away
>whoever wins takes over the thread and the people they pissed off wait for the next OP
why even respond to each other at this point
why not just gate this into /lwg/ and /xc2g/
>>145689962
>so btfo he makes an angry post about how people with valid criticism should make their own general
Most of us were here first buddy
>>145690048
i don't disagree genius, i don't even own xcom 2
i'm just asking why you even respond to each other at this point when all it becomes is nuh uh and shitposting
at this point nobody's view ever changes and it's the same damn routine in and out
Can you faggots please neck yourselves already? You're shitting up the thread more than usual.
On topic: After 100 hours of X2 I went back to play OG UFO defense and I'm having a lot of fun. Would you guys recommend the final mod pack? Also is there an uprez mod that makes the sprites prettier?
>>145689258
You stupid fucking cunt.
I didn't say mods would fix it, you did you fucking infant. I think its good as is. I said this one facet made it better than its predecessor alone.
The game is not at fault just because you're a frustrated child who cant look at things objectively.
Learn to look at things from a perspective other than: "They didn't do what I like so it's bad".
>>145690305
>i-i'm a different person
>the other guy stopping posting and me telling you to stop are just a coincidence
No ones view is changing because people like you just dismiss any criticism as shitposting.
>>145689962
I'd happily see Xcom2 players fuck off so we can get the pre X2 release general back.
>>145690473
i didn't dismiss anything you said, being anonymous i'm not even sure what posts you've made, and you still haven't answered what's the purpose of having the said the same shit over and over when nobody cares but the same person you argue with
i'd ask for you to show me the direction of this boogeyman you think i am so i could screencap it but you'd accuse me of editing it regardless
>>145690473
I dont have access to my computer and I hate posting in mobile. I responded to your criticisms with zero insults. I won't change my mind because there is no reason too. Why don't you just go play X1 and post about that instead.
>>145690473
>stuttering
>not shitposting
Something stones something glass.
>>145690925
You didn't respond to any of the criticism, you just wrote it off and then stopped responding.
>that sudden increase in uniques
Nice phoneposting.
Is the ayy broken?
Say what you will about the shitflinging and baiting, but it's the only thing that keeps this general alive.
>>145691116
No, just limber.
>>145691116
ALIEN ACTIVITY
uuhauauahaughgugh g
>>145691153
>criticism of the game is shitposting
Generals dead because people who like the good Xcoms are chased out by the few people who actually like xcom2
non - lw, non - 2 player here.
I ran out of weapon fragments, and I still have half the plasma weapons to unlock, hybrid spees ships, and a some other junk to unlock.
What's up with that, am I just not killing aliums hard enough?
>>145692078
Basically yes.
>>145692229
But last abduction was maybe four pods, I think I walked away with 15-20 fragments. I need 75 for not-independence day interceptors.
>>145686487
Not him but why would you use an insulting reaction pic that perfectly describes yourself in this scenario?
>>145692594
You need to be careful with your fragment spend and its basically a time gate.
>>145692678
Welp, time to grind et for broken shit.
>>145691116
shhh
ayyy is sleeping
>>145691458
>spending your time posting about a game you don't like
>instead of posting about a game you do like
For what purpose?
>>145694304
I do post about games I like.
>Newfoundland OP appears
>>145691458
>few
Delusional little whore
>>145697029
If people actually liked Xcom 2 the general wouldn't rely on people not liking it to stay alive
>>145615490
>>145615815
Surprisingly the answer is, yes, yes the yare.
>>145697141
Oh sorry, let me fix this
Delusional little newfag of a whore
>>145697250
I've been here since the EU days.
>>145697141
It isn't based on people not liking X2, it's the fact that everyone is playing a different game now.
With mod support, everyone is playing their own game with different rules, so it makes it hard to have consistent discussion. With EU/EW and Long War, we were, for the most part, playing the same game with the same rules.
>>145697169
Wait what the fuck? There's 40k material in the SDK?
>>145697319
And you don't know the extreme drought we suffer from time to time?
Lemme fix it yet again
Delusional, lying, newfag piece of shit of a whore
>>145697752
We do get droughts, but never droughts that rely on people not liking the game for us to pass.
Its funny how xcom 2 "oldfags" have to resort to insults to try and defend their game.
>>145697558
Except people rarely actually post Xcom 2 content (beyond look at my dress up soldiers) and even when they do its rarely replied to. The only thing that generates any form of activity or replies is people legitimately criticising Xcom 2 or posts about the old game. Not even basegame Xcom 2 talk generates replies or discussion and neither does trying to discuss mods or the DLCs
>>145697971
Yeah yeah keep up the bullshit, everyone agrees with you and our silence is the confirmation of it.
And you really are a lying piece of shit of a newfag if you think "resorting to insults" isn't common in here or on 4chan in general
>>145698406
Peace is an illusion my nig
>>145698404
Back to /v/ or r/4chan, /xcg/ was always capable of actually trying to discuss things without resorting to slinging insults without any further attempt at discussion. Although since you arrived along with the rest of the cancer that killed this general when Xcom 2 launched you probably think that resorting to ebin insults is cool and good for the general.
>everyone agrees with you
Theres about 5 people left who actually actively post and don't just drop in to ask questions or spam shit about waifus.
>>145698653
There's no arguing with you. It's the same thing all threads. You're not interested in a discussion, so we don't give you one.
Whores get what they deserve, not what they want
>>145697689
The eight pointed star isn't from 40k you fucking retard.
>>145698981
just tell the dude you bum
>>145698775
>You're not interested in a discussion
Except theres more than one person with actual criticism about Xcom 2, you're just too autistic to realise more than just one person can disagree with you. Plenty of people try to have discussions about Xcom 2 but just get "hurr fuck off shitposter" or "big blocky rejects xDDDD" spammed for disagreeing.
>Whores get what they deserve, not what they want
Holy shit, this is the most retarded attempt at being deep and sounding "cool" I've heard, how underaged are you?
>>145698981
Do you have to resort to being edgy in every post you make?
>>145699129
There's no attempt to be deep. By the contrary, I'm keeping it as superficial as possible to see if you can understand this simple concept:
Most people don't agree with you, everyone's sick of your stupid spamming, so as far as I'm concerned you're a stupid whore who sooner deserves to be hanged or killed by a firing squad than to be engaged in discussion
>>145698981
Chaos + 8-pointed star does though
also, >being mean
>>145699358
>so as far as I'm concerned you're a stupid whore who sooner deserves to be hanged or killed by a firing squad than to be engaged in discussion
Wow you're edgy. I rarely actually post about how much I dislike Xcom 2, theres plenty of other people who post about it I generally ignore them and discuss the mods for the open xcom or LW but you can't wrap your little mind around the fact more than one person can not like something.
You reek of an underaged who just discovered 4chan and think its somewhere you just spam retarded insults and are edgy.
I almost think you're falseflagging, I would hope no one would unironically think what you're saying wasn't edgy shit anyway
>>145699593
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_of_Chaos
look up any pre-1980's scifi and you'll find 40k has elements of it, the entire setting is a dedication to them in the form of parody
>>145699757
No one gives a shit about what you do, shut up with this blog shit
And I don't care how many times you say "edgy", it doesn't change the fact you're a pathetic waste of oxygen that would do better shooting himself so our Earth's limited resources aren't wasted on human garbage like you. Fuck off, and leave
>>145699760
Well fuck, I learn something new every day.
Thanks.
>>145700145
>it doesn't change the fact you're a pathetic waste of oxygen that would do better shooting himself so our Earth's limited resources aren't wasted on human garbage like you
Haha wow, as much as I'd love to presume people who disagree with me are this retarded I'm going to safely file you under the false flagger category trying to make the general look bad.
Have a pleasant day and I'll be sure to keep raising my displeasure with Xcom 2 and the generals current state.
>>145623539
I signed up for the mailing list, thanks for the heads up. The idea of a turn-based BattleTech/MechWarrior game is pretty great to me. Makes me think of MechCommander, though I know that was real-time.
>>145579735
Snek is love, snek is life.
>>145700232
Sorry for being mean, I just hate how 40k fags tend to go around trying to cram their autism into everything else.
>>145697752
>>145698404
>>145698775
>>145699358
>>145700145
wew lad
>>145700367
This really is important for you, isn't it you worthless mongrel? You really have a personal take on the state of a fucking game general that mainly on good days discusses a game that you don't even like.
It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetically sad. Think long and hard on what led you to this point, fix what can be saved, then kill yourself in a way that leaves as little a mess as possible, so you don't have to be almost a big a burden in death as you are in life.
>>145700627
Are you going to keep going even if I put less effort in? I still happily post here about non-Xcom 2 related stuff, I wasn't aware this was /xc2g/
>>145700569
Oh, sorry for presuming you're the edgy guy, post timers matched up.
>>145700569
It's alright man, I know how annoying my kind can be
Also,
>This fucking thread
Anyone running xcom2 on a 675mx i get weird hang ups that force me to tab out and back in
>strolling trough Shens Last Gift SDK's from OP
>Event Lilly_Shen_Killed
Why?
>>145700975
Probably a bad ending for if you fuck up the DLC quest
Goddamn, it's happening all over again... last time /xcg/ got this toxic it started to take it out in other generals.
Just don't go to /fog/ this time... it's comfy there now
>>145700975
i assume its the lose condition
the same way getting Bradford killed on the nest is the lose condition of AH
>>145701036
Its scary when the x2 sucks guys look more sensible than the pro-xcom 2 guys.
>>145700790
I'll just put less effort in informing you about the huge piece of shit whore you are, then. Easy peezy, keeping it basic.
At what point in a campaign are the Rulers supposed to show up? The king snek came back not too long after he escaped the first time, but I'm approaching tier 3 gear and haven't seen either of other two yet.
>>145701223
Thats no fun, how else are you going to hurt my feelings without writing long diatribes about how much you want me to die.
>>145701120
Haven't played Alien Hunters, but does anyone know if Bradford has any death quotes?
>>145700943
I don't have that card but a quick google makes it look like you're the only one with that issue. Have you tried updating drivers and since its a laptop card are your power settings on high performance?
>>145701364
I don't WANT you do die in particular, I just think you deserve to die a painful and horrible death reflecting the person you are, maybe skinned alive and fed to dogs, Bolton style.
>>145701598
>i don't want you to die
>I just think you should die
huh
>>145700975
My guess is we're going to have to escort her (she might even function as a soldier) while she recovers whatever Shen's Last Gift is.
>>145701696
Things I want are things I have a personal interest about. Ice cream, for example.
I think you should die alone and unloved, true, but I don't particularly want it for you, I just think it's what worthless dogs like you deserve
>>145701732
What if Shen's last gift isn't even about EU Shen
>>145701515
found out it was an issue with shadow play weird
All this great chat, maybe i can hide with my ghillies.
>>145701880
But that means you still want me to die that way.
>>145701983
Strange, Shadowplay is supposed to support Xcom 2
>>145702001
What do you use to get these models?
>>145702074
It is probably the card its showing its age
>>145702074
Yeah, I want you to die pretty violently while you pathetically beg for your mother, sure
>>145702268
675mx should still be able to run the game with Shadowplay, not on high but it shouldn't be giving you issues like that.
>>145702380
Thats an awfully strong reaction to someone disagreeing with you on an imageboard my falseflagging friend.
>>145702127
Facepunch
>>145701320
Anyone? I'm trying to figure out if there's a mod conflict or something.
>>145702516
See, that's because it isn't personal, it's my reaction every time I see a worthless piece of shit whore wasting the gift of live by being burdenous human trash.
So no need to be offended personally or anything
>>145702796
Maybe you should see a doctor about your autistic psychopathy.
>>145702891
Tell you what, you pay for my trip to the doctor, and I'll pay for a life coach to try and fix the waste that is your miserable little life.
Come on, it's a good deal, with the wreck you've made of yourself I'm gonna spend way more
>>145703136
>pay for the doctor
Oh, an American, I apologise.
>>145699760
>>145698981
>turn-based strategy game where you move scifi soldiers around shooting xeno scum
I would be very surprised if the creators aren't fans of 40k or that the 8-pointed star's inclusion had nothing to do with 40k.
>>145703364
You have to pay for a doctor's appointment everywhere you stupid cunt, mental diagnosis aren't covered in almost no national health plans.
Stop being such a stupid jackhole and just stick a pen right up your throat
>>145700569
>I just hate how 40k fags tend to go around trying to cram their autism into everything else
Oh look, it's another "/tg/ newfag" episode.
>>145703659
Actually they're free in my country and most of the civilised world. I'm sorry about your countries current medical system, did you know the American governments pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere else in the world due to how poorly the system is designed and run
>>145703762
Now now, theres no need to be rude to other people.
>>145703610
i'm sure 40k is right up solomon's alleyway considering the blend of magic and scifi, but the 8 pointed star isn't from 40k and it's not a 40k asset which was the point being brought up
still i'd love for a game in the vein of xcom where you play as pdf/some sort of guard fighting off heretic/xeno incursions while you wait for backup
>>145703878
>did you know the American governments pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere else in the world due to how poorly the system is designed and run
Canadian here, you're full of shit. My 56% tax cut on my check says otherwise.
Xcom2-players who cant handle timers need to get actually good or leave(or mod yer fukkin game)
Honestly you shits are cancer
>>145704092
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita
Sort by most recent year, the American system is designed to funnel money to healthcare companies
>>145703878
Full of shit as usual you lying fuck
>>145704335
I provided a source my friend and its from the OECD as well.
>>145703610
>>145703762
Die in a fucking fire.
>>145703762
Pic related.
>>145705381
The last few threads have made me lean towards supporting doing what /codg/ does and just stop existing till theres new content to discuss
>>145704838
>*BLAM*
That's a 12 year old who just found out about 40k and read 1d4chan.
>>145706147
Honestly looks more like someone who's being sarcastic about 40k threads.
BEAGLE WHEN
>>145707910
never etc etc
>>145707910
Never. Jamball will be talking about bathtub fish and spiders for eternity.
what the fuck
>>145709121
Thats a very captivating mental image
ITT shits who cant git gud.
Someone not on phone post dead ayys
>>145709121
The lack of Beagles is driving people insane.
INSAÁAAAÁÆAAAÁÄNE
So, Phoenix Point: The next UFO: Enemy Unknown or the next XCom Apocalypse?
>>145709412
B-But I'm on a phone right now!
[Beagle Activity]
Is FubukiAnon Dessfoxx in disguise?
Beagle is now using XCOM EW weapons. He too wishes for a return to 2012 aesthetics.
I don't know why, but the line about Bradford in this one always makes me smile.
>>145710039
>He too wishes for a return to 2012 aesthetics
Everyone does
>>Dedeye
Beagleluck works in mysterious ways.
has no one really made a training roulette mod for xcom 2?
>>145709730
I forgive you senpai
I love you(in a straight way)
>Sasquatch sneaking around in a forest area
something something poetry
>>145701914
I would actually be ok with that
>>145702001
I NEED THIS SO BAD
>>145702632
No idea anon, I'm running about 150 mods and I'll be doing the ruler mission for the first time soon, will let you know how things go after that.
>>145704074
>but the 8 pointed star isn't from 40k and it's not a 40k asset which was the point being brought up
My point is that even though the 8-pointed star is not a 40k asset, they probably had 40k in mind when they added it. Just a little nod to something they enjoy.
>>145704518
>>145704838
I want newfags to go and stay go.
>>145710550
There are at least 3
>>145710160
2012 aesthetics are meh. I love the 3rd tier X2 ones way more
>>145712482
>>>/tg/47803939
back to your containment board
>>145713198
>2012 aesthetics are meh. I love the 3rd tier X2 ones way more
Halo 4 armor looks nice.
>>145713624
No it doesn't. The textures are all fucked up.
>>145683189
No one has yet asked - what is the Field Marshall rank for?
Also, did someone just repost your pic on reddit?
>>145714002
>all the 40k posts by the OP
>attempts at 4chan memes
>even posting the videogames image
yup
>>145713624
It really doesn't. Reach's are better.
>>145714002
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/4og1re/shens_last_gift_info_in_sdk_mec_knights_going/d4c9ogc
Fucking hell
>>145714251
I like both, but I appreciate the effort of the guy who ported the Halo 4 armor into the game. Apparently porting one set of armor took 20 hours.
>>145714235
>>145714509
Oh god I hadn't actually read the comments. My cringe capacity has been exceeded.
However, I didn't remember until someone said there that the field marshall icon was used for theplayer's avatar in the final mission.Well that answers that.
>>145714761
Remember that guy posts here.
>>145714887
jfc. Probably the guy pushing 40k so hard and the edgelord posting this teenage tryhard shit:
>>145700627
>>145701598
>>145701880
>>145702380
>>145715356
Hopefully he'll fuck off, people like him tend not to stay long despite making a massive fuss about how the general needs to change to suit them and how long they claim to have been using the general for.
He has a history of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/4jz851/shens_last_gift_sdk_material_filenames/
>>145715662
Funny, that sounds familiar...
>unexpected sectopod emerges from the fog of war just as I was getting ready to plant the X4
>it ends up dying to overwatch fire before it can finish moving into position
I nearly shat myself when that thing bust down the door. Felt like a god when it exploded.
Grenadiers and Rangers a BEST.
>>145715775
>Funny, that sounds familiar...
How do you mean?
It wouldn't be so bad if he just posted them and said they were from /xcg/, its the shit he posts alongside it.
>>145715775
>Funny, that sounds familiar...
sounds like every general
>>145716021
Just reminds me of a lot of griping in this general earlier. Wasn't meant to be 100% serious.
I really wish you could pay to ban people here. From viewing, not just from posting. Would be a good monetization strategy.
>KEKE NETMAHBUUUUUUUU Q_Q
Because I would pay it.
But banning IPs just doesn't work, and it would compromise the whole anonymous thing, yadda yadda. Oh well.
>>145716521
>I really wish you could pay to ban people here
Just started a new game after not playing for months. Did experimental grenades get nerfed? I remember them doing more damage.
>>145716521
Oh, as a general rule people who scream about newfags or how much of an oldfag they are end up being actual newfags trying too hard or seasonal posters who pop in around release times for a few days and then go away. Actual oldfags might mention how things used to be but aren't pushy about how long they've been here. Obviously that is going to sound incredibly hypocritical.
>>145716832
Normally I'd agree that its dumb but the linked guy deserves it.
How many ayys have you folks caught in a single overwatch before (from any of the games) i think I've got 8
>>145682679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRJ7eCiWY7M
I don't know where.
>>145716918
Sometimes newfags have to be called out, like when they complain about 40k being posted too much on the board that was literally created for 40k.
Boy I was in a hurry and missed most of the stream.
Any highlights so far?
/xcg/ what are some names i can give my soldiers that will give me that mighty luck long dong requires?
>>145717021
I think my record was with a sharpshooter with killzone and extended mags, plus five others in my squad, and I dropped Kill Zone on the reinforcement square coming in.
Enemy pod ran into the kill zone or triggered overwatch fire, the reinforcements got fucked to hell, and it was at that exact moment, despite being at the very end of the game and easily able to do the finale, that I quit and began installing shittons of mods just so the game would be harder.
Because that, friend, was some shit.
>>145713518
>someone has different tastes
>it must be bait
Stop shitposting
>>145714534
I think the issue is just that Halo 4 armor went too far towards a different aesthetic, and it doesn't look as good. He did good work on the porting itself
I have a female soldier named Manga. What nickname should I give her?
>>145719843Shit
>>145716905
Is there ever a good time to use experimental grenades? Or to take them over normal grenades?
Normal grenades apply to everything, and blow up cover. IMO nothing else can really compete.
>>145718552
t. anon who posts in every non 40k thread on /tg/ saying it isn't /tg/ related
>>145719992
I tend to agree. The only one I ever occasionally take in my off slot is acid grenades.
>>145719992
Yeah, definitely. I remember them doing slightly more damage than their same tier regular grenades but that might have changed. Regardless, they all still apply extra DoT.
Fire grenades prevent enemies using abilities, including melee attacks so they're perfect against chryssalids, lancers and berserkers.
Acid grenades remove twice as much armor which is good against andromedons and sectopods.
Gas grenades lower enemy aim and movement a bit and aren't really that great.
>>145720153
>>145719992
Acid grenades shred more armor than normal and do damage over time
Fire grenades do more up-front damage, do damage over time, and prevents various abilities being used by burning units
Gas grenades have a bigger radius, do damage over time, significantly reduce enemy aim and mobility, and can be used to block areas to some units.
Proximity mines are beast as fuck. Drop one in the middle of a pod with a Grenadier with Salvo, then put him on overwatch (or shoot the pod) and you get two hits. The Proximity mine does 8 base damage with a 5 tile radius and shreds 2 armor.
>>145721105
ack, totally forgot proximity mines were classed as a grenade. You're right. They're totally worth a double grenade slot over regular plasma grenades.
>>145720560
>>145721105
Fun idea for a custom class - one that can switch ammo types. Sectopod? Bluescreen rounds. Chrysalids - flick the selector, incendiary on full auto will put them in their place.
>>145721305
Oh, and a Gunslinger with incendiary ammo while facing modded Chrysalids is about the only time I've found a Gunslinger to be useful
>>145719691
Pretty much did the same thing
>>145721105
>Fire grenades do more up-front damage,
Oh, thank you. >>145716905 I thought it was all grenades but it's just fire grenades that do more damage.
>>145720153
>t. anon who posts in every non 40k thread on /tg/ saying it isn't /tg/ related
Try again, dingus. Ye olde X-COM threads on /tg/ were how I got into the game originally, and I lovedquestsbefore they all became text-based.
Playing on commander instead of legend on xcom 2 feels like taking the weights off. I'm breezing through it. After all the player nerfs and enemy buffs I don't even feel bad about it.
>>145702001
We need the remaining Titanfall stuff, like Fem sniper.
>>145722353
yaasss
>>145722085
Then go fuck yourself into a coma before you call me a newfag.
>>145722436
That roll!
That Shen
>>145722175
>>After all the player nerfs and enemy buffs
Really? Having problems with the Rulers or something?
>>145722671
Are those sims?
>>145722742
Yup
>>145722710
I don't know I'm just being a little bitch. Now that I think about it I agree with all the changes. It's just frustrating since I never really played the first xcom on ironmnan impossible. I did beat it on classic ironman though. And I guess that's the mode for me.
>>145722742
>>145722671
Stop cross-pollinating reddit and /xcg/. STOP IT.And Bradford and Vahlen look way too happy. It's just not right.
>>145722789
Intriguing.
>>Beagle looking at ded bodies, AGAIN.
Beagle PLEASE
>>145722436
That's so not going to end well.
>>145722894
It's OK. It takes time and practice to get through Ironman/Legend mode. You are still better off trying Legend before Impossible first as XCOM 2 is more streamlined and in general easier to beat.
>>145723389
You think it's easier even with all the timed missions?
>>145723389
That thread was fucking gold.
>>145723253
That was the second XCOM 2 webm I made, back on Jan. 7th this year.
>>145723060
lewd bro
>>That noise is STILL going strong.
I-It is never going to stop now...
>>145723776
Wowzer
>>145722436
Don't say newfag shit and I won't call you a newfag :^)
Is skeltal suit the best armor in X2? The mobility it provides is insane. Not to mention how well it synergizes with Death From Above.
>>145723606
>>145723627
>>145723776
Holy shit. That and the schlicking sounds from the stream and I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight.
Oh my god and now there's a hologram squatting over someones prone face.
>>145723627
>>145723776
>>tfw Beagle actually stops the music to properly hear that sectoid again.
Classic.
>>145723606
I should have expected no less.
>>145723547
Not easier but still doable.
I heard rumors about Bagel getting into a fistfight with an XCOM dev.
Spill, /xcg/.
>>145643983
If that's true, why hasn't someone made a "Longest War" mod yet:
>Locations broken up country by country
>United States broken up by state
>Have to communicate/destroy a facility on each one
>Research times severely increased
>Success-based force level
>Slower Avatar Timer
>Campaign stretches out into years
>Beagle dies from never finishing the campaign
Can you turn off the alien trophies and stuffed severed heads in the dress-up room? They rustle my jimmies.
Lewd mods when?
>>145726297
Why do they rustle your jimmies?
>>145724402
Each one has different uses. It is certainly very good for snipers
I finished the scope attachment, just the stock left and then it's just miscellaneous UI stuff left to do.
>>145726371
>"It's funny to break character and contradict things we said in the first game!"
>"CLOSE RANGE! MEMES! LOLOLOLOL"
>>145726873
Things have clearly changed a bit since then.
>>145726870
>>145726719
Only thing i have left to figure out is the aiming reticle thing, i gave up and made a thread on the nexus forums because i've tried every last thing i can think of to figure out how it works and it just left me stumped.
I don't see anything that says what weapon uses what reticle and i couldn't find the textures in the sdk. I did figure out that one line in the weapon template's code that determines if a weapon is conventional, magnetic or beam can change the reticle. But i have no idea if that line changes anything else, and i don't know how that line determines what reticle to use.
So i suppose worst case scenario i'll just make them use the magnetic reticle, but i'd like to be able to make my own.
>>145727089
Soonish, i should be able to finish the stock by tomorrow, the ui stuff should be really fast too, but that's assuming i actually understand how it works, i could have it all wrong and then it could take a while i don't know. And this reticle thing, i dunno.
>>145727256
>>145726870
>>145726719
Ugh, fuck running around with that thing as my main gun. Must weigh at least 20 kilos...
>>145727527
You're wrong, it weighs 34.
Why do prominent streamers and youtubers start with a bunch of free soldiers? Are they cashuls?
>>145727678
>34 kilos
>still mobility 12
>>145726719
>>145726870
>>145727256
Thanks for the hard work.
Has Beagle commented on the fact that rockets are just replicating the absurdity of grenadiers at launch that make the game significantly easier?
>>145728372
That's what he wants. He makes the game easier in many ways.
low speed
high drag
>>145728878
i dont like how he exploits the game at times
like what he is doing with the POIs by spining them just to prevent them from disappearing
still his game his rules
>>145728372
he acknowledged it immediately after you made this post. this campaign was meant to be a balancing test run while he tries guerilla war, so he can find out how Reaper and Infantry are broken, rockets are broken, etc.
>>145728915
i am going to assume that some of that drag was the berzerker queen?
>>145729168
nah, just taking my fucking time since it was the first time i did a blacksite mission and there's no timer
literally who
>>145729995
gives a fuck
What program is used to extract character models? I'd like to grab Halo 2 Anniversary models, specifically the Marines and ODST models.
>>145717021
Let me tell you a story floaters.
>Vanilla EU
>Get an abduction on Construction
>Once there, walk my squad between a crane and dumpster
>Alamo turn begins and all three pods activate
>All three pods are nothing but floaters
>Everyone is taking overwatch shots and hitting
>Floaters keep coming
>Killed a pod and a half by the end of the alien turn
>Wipe up everything else once my turn starts
Lesson learned was that my soldiers were the greatest ever and that Construction can be heaven or hell depending on what pods spawn
>>145729061
>what he is doing with the POIs by spining them just to prevent them from disappearing
Say what?
Beagle is so Tsun for Mei it's almost funny.
If anyone would like to look at the EU/EW XCOM 1 ports you can take a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMOjUiLt2Zo
>>145730209
for better viewing pleasure.
>>145731439
The Marine/ODST mods we have so far just don't give me enough. I especially need Halo 2 ODSTs. They just look so much cooler and less chubby
>>145730675
he has scanning one hour on each site just to be able to get them all eventually
Stream is Over.
Are the DLCS worth it?
>>145735372
No.
>>145735372
We'll know whenever Shen's Last Gift is released.
Can someone who has the Long War SMG pack for XCOM2 paste the .ini file text to pastebin? I want to take a look at how they coded some stuff without actually installing it.
>>145735874
why not just install it, grab the ini file, and then uninstall it, anon? Steam workshop is flexible.
>>145736072
>he doesn't know about XCOM2 "remembering" mods even after you uninstall them
I don't actually know how much of an issue this is, but I've heard of it and he may be paranoid, especially if he's a modder already running a lot of other stuff.
>>145736260
only mods that overrides the game files has that issue, and not every one of those does it
i dont think weapon mods overrides any file in the game because they work with their own files
>>145736487
>>145736260
>>145736072
>>145735874
This reminds me, I wanted to cut some of the LW SMG code out and graft it into the Halo Reach SMG to buff it up a little and use its cosmetics instead of the LW ones.
Any pointers on how to do this without fucking everything up forever?
>>145736260
that doesn't happen if you actually clean your mod config file, Anon.
You do know how to mod properly, don't you?
>>145736898
I have absolutely no idea how to bash mods like that, Anon. However, I'm sure with the right mod tools like the sdk you probably could.
>>145737212
No idea. Never said I was a modder, I was just trying to explain to the other anon why he might not want to do it the way he suggested.
>>145736898
That's a tough question to answer and i have neither of those mods, i don't think at least. But what you probably want to do is to take the Long Dong smg mod, and replace the .upk(the .upk would be under the content folder inside the smg mod folder) with the halo one, then, you would have to open the .uc file (which would be under the src folder) with the modbuddy thing, and you need to find something that says something like
Template.GameArchetype = "LongDongSMG.SomethingOrOther";
And replace what is inside the quotes with the archetype name of the halo smg, to get the archetype name of the halo smg you would need to open the upk with the Xcom editor(which you open from the modbuddy under tools).
I'm mostly just guessing though, and you will probably have to fix and rename some other things here and there but i think that's the gist of it.
But basically, tl;dr: Inside the .UPK is all the models, textures and archetypes, and in the .uc files you'll need to find things that basically tell the game to use those things from the .upk.
>>145738716
Also there's no way you could break something forever, at worst you'd break one or both mods and you'd have to redownload them.
Just don't like, make a save in-game until you're sure the mod works, or make sure you keep a save from before you're testing the mod, so if you break them you can just keep playing from the old save.
I don't know if these kinds of mods could even break a save though, but just in case.
>>145738716
I only want to change the stats of the SMG, not the model it uses, noises, etc.
>>145738852
Well in hindsight what i suggested is pretty stupid anyway. Unless the longdong smg has unique abilities. But if you just want to change damage numbers you'd just have to copy paste the .ini and rename it to the halo one. Well maybe it's not that simple, best way to do it would be to just open both the halo and longdong ini files and make sure to copy paste the appropriate values into their appropriate fields.
>>145739198
The long dong SMG increases mobility, reduced detection radius, and some other stuff
>>145739272
If i was to guess, that's probably not a simple as just copying .ini values over, but i don't really know.
>>145739542
I'll just see how I go while I wait for someone who knows what they're doing to show up and bail me out of whatever mess I've created
>>145739767
I don't know what the answer is either, anon, but I'll give it a shot as well. I just posted on reddit for some advice, since /xcg/ has said their modding community is good for support. If they give me anything to go with I'll post it here.
>never ever
>mod that changes the ayys into covies when?
>mod that changes the skyranger into a pelican when?
>mod that replaces the soundtrack with every halo games' OST
https://youtu.be/N6lQXrHtgbg?t=2m20s
Perfect loadout music right here.
HALOCOM WHEN?
>>145742963
Halocom is fun
>>145742713
Ugh, I hate tier 2 and 3 aesthetics. I don't even particularly love Halo, but the Marine/ODST packs, plus the Titanfall stuff we have so far, is fucking vital imo. Tier 3 is just garbage, especially the WAR suit
>>145743239
I just use the ODST/Marine and Titanfall stuff until I research T3 armor then everyone gets MJOLNIR armor.
>>145743239
>implying WAR suit isn't the only good T3 armor
>>145743352
Just doesn't do it for me.
>>145743352
but it looks just like warden armor but with the arms things
>>145743345
I actually think full MJOLNIR is too...I dunno, high tech and sleek for this cobbled together insurgency.
>>145743352
None of tier 3 is good, but the WAR suit is particularly awful.
>>145743459
>>145743521
>>145743536
I think the War suit looks the best because it's bigger and bulkier than the other T3 ones, it also has that neckguard and neckguards are cool.
>>145743672
I'l agree with you on neck guards
>>145739542
>>145739767
>>145740349
I found this reading through the comments on the Halo Reach Weapons page in the Workshop:
>While i cant give you a full tutorial, ill explain how it works...
The single shot action is defined as a new ability and the parameters of that ability are defined in the custom script file "X2Ability_ODSTSMGAbilities.uc". In there im telling the game i have the ability "SMGFire" defined by
static function X2AbilityTemplate AddODSTSMGShot(Name AbilityName='SMGFire')
and under that i tell the game what the ability is.. which is a copy paste of the original shooting action, however.. i changed the lines
ActionPointCost.iNumPoints = 1;
ActionPointCost.bConsumeAllPoints = false;
This allows the smg to be used as a single action.
A mobility skill would have to be defined in the same way... so it would have to be under all of the code for the shooting action, and then it would be a new ability
static function X2AbilityTemplate AddODSTSMGShot(Name AbilityName='SMGMobility')
or something like that.. with that we then define the mobility and give it to the gun. in the guns script file "X2Item_ODSTSMG.uc" with the line
Template.Abilities.AddItem('SMGFire');
would become
Template.Abilities.AddItem('StandardFire');
and you add
Template.Abilities.AddItem('SMGMobility);
--------------------------------------------------------
with that said however i want to make that ability something like a .ini ability so like...
If 'SMG Mobility' == 1 //then
{
Template.Abilities.AddItem('SMGMobility);
}
That way people can turn it off or on if they want
edit: yes this would require the mod buddy as you have to recompile script edits for it to work
>>145744492
>yes this would require the mod buddy
How do you get the mod buddy?
>>145744569
You buy Xcom2 and then you download it from tools through Steam.
>>145744634
>66 fucking gig
holy hell
>X2 helmets will never be as sexual as these
It hurts to live.
>>145746202
Well it's a good thing they got ported, then
>>145747221
As mods?
>>145748751
Yes https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=648432638
>>145570074
The day thine endeth thineself
Goodnight, /xcg/
>>145743536
>cobbled together insurgency
Not in the vanilla game they aren't.
ded
>>145749531
Goodnight F A M
>ufo recovery mission
>clear exterior
>disable distress beacon
>enemy turn
>gatekeeper patrol triggers
>moves into position directly adjacent to the elerium power sources
I hate this fucking game so much.
>>145744794
>tfw in Australia and limited to 50 gigs in a month of DL
fuck this gay earht
I miss real internet
>>145752587
You poor soul I'l pour one out for you
>>145752701
Thanks famalamadingdong
Is this list of mods worth a playthrough or its too memetic?
http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=699833747
Do terror missions in 1994com get progressively harder/more complex with larger maps and more aliens, or does their difficulty stagnate and get easier over time as you get more research and equipment and shit?
Does FMP change them in any meaningful way?
>>145754649
The alien types that appear on missions get harder over time, yes.
>>145754649
The only part of terror missions that increase difficulty are new alien types, which offset your better gear. FMP changes terror missions as much as the rest of the game: aliens, tech and maps.
>>145753304
I am playing with many of the difficulty mods he implemented, it's hard but fun.
Don't do it if you're a part of the - omg timers crowd tho.
This comp relies on that mechanic to ramp up the difficulty and psycological pressure.
Some people find that "not Xcom" others welcome different mechanics as an attempt to have a fresher take on Xcom.
Nothing's perfect, see if you like it yourself.
What I did was edit the ini to keep the supply aspect but make the reinforcements appear later. So if I am taking "too long" I get punished.
>>145755406
Is the loot mod good?
>>145755574
So-so It makes things easier but requires research time per item tho, so there is that. I am okay with it because of all the difficulty I've added, both with Grimy's tweaks and others.
The items themselves are interesting enough.
>>145755017
Wut is FMP mod? I played OG Xcom when it was new but haven't modded it.
I will probably go back and play a bit when tired of 2. I like 2 but the mod scene needs to embrace one or two solid overhauls. This way we can have a shared experience theme going again.
That and they need to finish optimizing and bug fixing.
The final DLC and X-Pac will probably leave it in a better state than EW.
Kind of what went down with CiV vs CiV 4.
Shen's Last Gift perks from the SDK
>Beaglerush commented on that Medieval MEc reddit thread
top fucking kek
>>145753304
What happens if you run out of time?
Do you get 60 seconds for all your guys, or 60 seconds per dude?
>>145756373
>>145756373
So we know Chief Engineer is Shen's class.
Medieval Ranks for MECs
There is a scene/some perk when the MEC starts as a specialist.
Maybe I should shrink my number of classes down(currently ~40+)
What pick?
Untouchable feels kinda meaningless since I should always be fucking killing and I have implacable to reposition after kills, but then again, deep cover is ????
>>145758308
Untouchable is GOAT, deep cover is legitimately awful
>>145757364
XCG BTFO
>>145758826
DEUS VULT
>>145758826
Beagle probably eats up anything XCom, not at all surprised he browses both Reddit and 4chan for it.
>It's a "Redditor steals from /xcg/" episode
>>145759929
you mean share :^)
>>145759929
What does the Codex Astartes say about snek though xDD
At least XCOM isn't playing....video gayymes :D
KEKE.
NETMAHBU!
>>145760176
>NM
FUCK NETMARBLE
>>145759929
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xcom/comments/4fhxg5/new_xcom_2_achievements_showing/d2aoc90?context=3
God weeps.
Had to use the Hair material to have transparent Ghillie fabric, and as such it isn't armour colourable. Might add 3 versions with white, green and tan colouring.
>>145760605
As ever, you are amazing.
>>145757645
Per turn. I tweaked to 90 so there is still time to think. Will need it when squad size grows.
>>145757645
If out of time your turn is over.
>>145742713
>that wrist gun on upper left
>>145743239
Tier 2 armor is fine lad
>>145742963
>0% successful shot
>average 5 damage per attack
Did you just use explosives and nothing else for the entire mission?
>>145756368
>FMP
FMP stands for Final Mod Pack. Its a collection of mods for openxcom all tossed together and made to play nice/be compatiable while trying to achieve a semblance of balance. If you already played through OG x-com (which you have) its pretty fun. It basically adds tons of new alien reaces and weapons. The alien races vary from aliens from xenonaughts, terror from the deep, x-com apocalypse, and some of the better designed fan made ones.
The weapons vary from widely available traditional earth tech (RPG, AKs, Hunting rifles, shotguns, all inferior to X-COM starting tech) to more variety of starting X-COM tech tier (Different rifles, pistols, sniper rifles, shotguns with buckshot and slugs) and then it adds more laser weapons, Gauss weapons, more plasma weapons, flamethrowers, and other exotic gear.
The Airgame features more X-COM craft (which you will need) and more alien ships, the biggest change being alien ships that can actually engage and shoot down your own well before you get to the battleship (UFO fighter classes usually scout for base assaults and can easily engage your interceptors even though they are only smalls). The manufacturing rules are re-worked so you can't just print money, their are new buildings you can build for your bases, their are tons of new procedurally generated map types. The goal of the game is still the same. Obviously can't list every detail, but its a fun time, it significanlty extends the length of the original games campaign.
I played it to the point where I was rolling with your traditional end game power armor and heavy plasma before I called it quits as I felt I reached that X-COM endgame plateau/slog. Here's the tech tree to show how much stuff was added.
>>145767469
>not letting us die
>>145760605
Keep up the good work man. Did you see the new titanfall multiplayer trailer?
>>145768247
Yeah, can't wait torip the fuck out of it.
As I just started my PirateZ base defense, I just wanted to share why this mission type has been made into a literal x-com hell of map design. I'll will be posting several Map views to help illustrate my points.
>>145761773
I can like or dislike whatever I want. Fuck off faggot.
>>145770790
Hello Yarikachi
>>145770640
In this picture, I have labeled all the relevant points of interest. Aliens can enter the base through the Hangers and the Access Lift. Normally, you would build your base so that the hangars are isolated from the rest of your base, only connected by the access lift. This makes your base extremely defensible as the aliens can only move through a single choke point which you can just pour explosives and automatic fire down until the initial assault force is exhuasted and the move in to mop up the survivors.
I don't have that setup because my base is currently in transition as I try to fit all my new research and manufacturing building into one place and its left me with a somewhat subpar defense setup. However, it actually doesn't matter too much as I will show in the next two posts.
>>145771179
I don't quite understand, it looks like your hanger is only connected via the single chokepoint.
>>145771179
However, PirateZ decided your standard base layout was too good. So they added this upper floor lever. This upper floor level adds another four more chokepoints to what I already had to cover, and being on entirely separate floors, you can't easily move troops to defend it or move reinforcements if one point starts to get overwhelmed.
>>145771335
The hangars are connected to all adjacent buildings, the tan looking squares are all open space, so if you look their are 5 different open corridors between the access lift and the hangar. Also that isn't the entire map, their are more buildings if you go further west and south.
>>145771335
Aliens can enter through your hangars or access lifts.
>>145771179
>legendary ironman run
>"alien hunters" mode deselected
>viper king still appears in blacksite missions
>>145771691
Here's where everything goes to hell. This is the basement floor of your wonderfully designed base. It's a sewer system, and it spans the entire map no matter where you have constructed/placed your buildings. As you can see, the attackers can enter this floor from the hangars and access lift, and from here they can move to any part of your base. There are effectively no easy chokepoints to hold, and hostile attackers can roam about anywhere for the most part.
The saving grace, but also the reason why this floor is really frustrating, is that this entire area is partially submerged in water. This means that it takes extra time units and energy to move anywhere on this floor. Movement is extremely slow, and getting anywhere can take a couple of turns. On one hand, this means it will take a while for hostiles to cover any distance and potentially infiltrate past your forces.But, it means hunting down strayyy ayyys can take a lifetime.
To successfully repel the attacking forces you must control all three floors and remove all enemies from the entire map, which for all practical purposes has been trippled in size from the original game.
>>145772538
>>145771691
I'd sooner off myself then deal with that
>>145772197
>he doesn't know
the only way you can stop rulers is by uninstalling the DLC or not doing the nest mission, disabling the dlc at the start of a run makes the rulers spawn without the story mission.
>>145772538
Why are Xcom players so masochistic
>>145772538
Under what circumstances do base defenses happen in Piratez? Like are they possible to avoid?
>>145772967
Because only masochistic people like x-com
>>145772880
What he said - you essential guaranteed the would show up when you unchecked that box.
>>145772880
Well great, another campaign ruined because of bullshit I can't do a fucking thing about.
>>145773175
Jake's game.:^)
>>145772538
All of this means base defenses can last extremely long. To understand just why this is so bad, we have to discuss a mechanic added to PirateZ that adjusts how Morale works in X-COM. But first,we have to build speed for 12 hourswe have to understand how panic works in the original game.
In the original x-com, your troops all have their own bravery stat that decides how much morale they have. Morale recovers slowly by itself every turn, but can be reduced when a soldier takes a wound (only his morale is lowered), when psionically attacked, or when other soldiers dies (lowers everyone's morale).
Soldiers lose morale from the deaths of friendlies base on their relative rank. If you have a squad full of high ranking soldiers and a rookies dies, the morale loss will be minimal. If a high ranking soldier dies in a squad full of rookies, the morale loss will be significant. Loosing multiple soldiers within a single turn is the quickest way to reduces morale.
If morale falls to low, your soldiers begin to panick. Panicking includes:, panic (your soldiers throws down his weapon and spends his turn moving in a random direction), Berserk 1 (your soldiers instantly uses all his time units doing nothing), Berserk 2 (You soldiers fire his weapon as much as possible in random directions). As you can imagine, Berserk 2 can lead to friendly fire. The soldier could: A. Shoot and hit nothing (thank god), B. Shoot and kill a friendly soldier (sucks), C. Your heavy weapon specialist has now launched a rocket that instantly kills half your squad (potentially GG). C will also likely leave your entire team incapacitated due to panic for several following turns.
(continued in part 2, where I explain the actual change PirateZ introduces)
>>145772538
I'm simultanously getting flashbacks of hunting down trillions of underground bases in Metal Fatigue, and playing base defense in X-com FMP where the game gracefully sees it fit to scatter all the shit from your general stores on the hangar floors.
>>145773469
It seems that Jake wasn't the only one who had mission tempo in mind. The creator of PirateZ did not want you to dwiddle your thumbs and wait for every single alien to exit thier ships one by one and then get drowned in a hail of fire. He wants you to be forced to aggressively assault ships and bases instead of camping outside for 100+ turns (or even 10+ turns actually).
Thus, PirateZ actually has a hidden timer mechanic. In PirateZ, you troops start with morale, but every single turn, their morale will steadily fall with an inverse relationship to bravery. This means, that if nothing happens for the entire mission, eventually your entire squad will begin to panic on and off, with the bravest ones beginning to panic last.
To offset this, you need to kill the enemy. Killing enemies provides a large morale bonus to the soldier who scores the kill, and a descent one to the entire squad. You keep killing, your squad keeps rolling. This mechanic (as I already noted) means you must keep advancing and killing the enemy in order for your squad to operate at full effectiveness.
This can make combing large maps extremely brutal, as your squad slowly loses effectiveness and begin to act erratically. In a tough mission vs. difficult enemies, casualties can spike right at the end as your forced to sprint your troops in a tactically unsound manner to try an finish the fight.
(Continued in part 3 with the conclusion)
>>145771691
Ahh, I get it. the marked chokepoint confused me
>>145773175
You can understand the mechanics - now you know.
>>145772197
When you "deselected "alien hunters"" mode, did you just turn off the nest mission? You have to deactivate the alien hunters dlc through steam or the launcher, you can't just have the hunting weapons without the rulers.
>>145774635
As you can imagine, when you combine this with a base assault everything comes together in a very rotten stew. You have: Tough and numerous enemies, a large squad of soldiers that mixes high ranking (your squad that goes on missions) and low ranking (recruits waiting to fill in for the casualties you take) soldiers, and a huge map, nearly tripple the size of a standard mission with tons of vertacaity that isolates each floor. You must comb the entire the map and eliminate every single enemy. Casualties will cause your morale to drop on top of the hidden ticking timer that is steady morale bleed. In my first PirateZ base defense I took 75% casualties, 50% of these in the final combing phase of the battle. And that's why PirateZ bases hell. Thanks for reading.
I will now go an try to complete my current one much more successfully and efficiently then the first.
>>145772856
I'm hoping that my learning experience from the first go will significantly reduce the pain this time around. The first time I didn't even know about the top and bottom floor.
>>145772967
Because itsfun
>>145773024
Usually the enemy faction will send ships on missions to find your base. Mostly fighters, so thier tough, but you can shoot them down. If you don't, they can spawn an assualt ship that will attempt to crash your party. Obviously you want to go for the scout. Also, they usually only do this after you've been crashing their ships, stealing their stuff, and killing their guys.
>>145774885
Yeah, I was just marking the "standard" chokepoint of an optimally designed bases in regards to defense. I also did this too demonstrate how the PirateZ base really weakens this normally sound tactic by making sound your base can't have just one chokepoint.
>>145775258
Is there a mod for the OG that incorporates these things without the Piratez content? The mechanics sound awesome. The Piratez part I can do without.
>>145778293
>Is there a mod for the OG that incorporates these things without the Piratez content?
Your going so have to specify a bit more, I'm talking about alot of different mechanics/additions.
>>145778506
The changes to base mechanics /layout and morale.
>>145779189
Ok so if I'm understanding this correctly you want:
>Tripple Layer base
>Morale Bleed
To be honest, as far as I know, only PirateZ has these changes, though I could go take a quick perusal to see if their are modular components instead of an entire overhaul.
Out of curiosity, have you tried PirateZ?
>>145774635
whoever made that art should be brought behind the shack and shot
>>145779861
Why?
>>145779861
I too am curious at how you arrived at this conclusion.
>>145774373
>X-com FMP where the game gracefully sees it fit to scatter all the shit from your general stores on the hangar floors.
Was that never fixed?
>>145774635
Cute game mechanic, but it doesn't seem very realistic and that's rustling me.
Also sounds like it will inevitably fuck you on the longer missions as enemies can be randomly distributed. Are there any items in game that help you locate enemies? If so that might help to even out some of the fuckage, I guess.
Is there a wiki for this game or anything? 99% of the readme is changelog.
>>145775258
Let us know how it goes.
>>145780783
Same site as the Long War one
>>145775258
Oh, another question, what difficulty level would you recommend to a newcomer to this mod? I play open x-com on superhuman comfortably, but this mod sounds more difficult from everything I've heard.
>>145780783
Of all the crazy things in piratez you draw the line at morale decreasing as the mission goes on?
>>145781243
I haven't played it, man. Maybe I don't know about the other crazy shit.
>>145780938
ufopaedia? I'm not seeing it.
For optimum results, which soldiers should Ivolunteerfor the MEC project (in EW)
>>145780783
>Was that never fixed?
I swear I read that they purposefully did it so you couldn't end the base defense missions instantly with a single blaster bomb. Which is completely retarded.
>Cute game mechanic, but it doesn't seem very realistic and that's rustling me.
Yeah its a game mechanic first and foremost. Usually long mission don't screw if you play well, but you need to advance every turn and have a solid perimeter so nothing slips by unnoticed. Motion trackers (ayy phones) can help.
There is a wiki though its not very complete: http://ufopaedia.org/index.php/Piratez
>>145780965
Honestly I'm just playing it on the regular difficulty. There's so much new content, the mod is not easy, I'm finding the difficulty to be perfectly acceptable. I'm challenged often, I steam roll some missions, other missions are very challenging.
>>145781447
>ufopaedia? I'm not seeing it.
Yup
I hate lids. Fortunately I have this one dead to rights.
>>145767469
God bless explosive ordanance. Yes the rookies and squaddies had shit aim.
Has any one else messed around with reshade in x2 yet I got a big performance boost using it
>>145746202
1 > 3 > 5 > 6 > 4 > 2 > 7
>>145781495
A high rank one
>>145783550
>>145780783
Turns out we were hit by the smallest assault team I have ever seen. Only two losses, 1 of them a Vet. I positioned much more aggressively this time and wrapped up the mission in about 6 turns.Heh, all the build-up for nothing
>>145786662
Can you have multiple bases?
>>145786587
I figured that but what classes should I give priority to?
>>145786795
Yes
>>145786795
You can have up to eight. In the umodded x-com, two bases main bases were standard, with a few other bases that served entirely to hold intereceptors and provide radar coverage.
For other overhaul mods they often add extra base buildings that are necessary for building or researching stuff so you might need more large bases. My current main base is bursting at the seems currently, and I have two other bases.
>>145787059
Cool wasn't sure if piratez changed that or something
>>145787318
Nope, but there is one issue. You can't beat the game if you lose your main base (as far as I know).
Plot wise, you original base has a state of the art laboratory that you found by accident (I'm 99% certain your operating out of an old x-com base you found by luck). This is an issue because you can't replicate the laboratory. If you lose your main base, you lose all ability to conduct research, and thus advance through the game.
>>145787590
Sounds like a good garrison is important
>>145779189
I'm pretty sure the combat stress / morale bleed mechanic is implemented by individual entries in the recovery section of each armor in the ruleset file.
I'm not sure if these strings are part of the extended openXCOM that piratez uses or not, but if they aren't you should be able to add them to the stock outfits in vanilla (coveralls, personal armor, power suit, flying suit) to implement the mechanic.
As you can see, the standard outfit decays 20% of your current morale at the start of turn, then regenerates 20% of your bravery score in morale. The result is that your morale balances around your bravery value.
Noting that low morale effects begin at 50 morale, any unit with 50 bravery or higher will not succumb to panic unless any allies die, they take damage, or, in piratez case, they are afflicted with morale damage by incendiary or chemical weapons.
>>145779669
I have not I asked about it and certain things seem pretty hokey.
Take that with a grain of salt please because mechanics wise it sounds excellent.
>>145787590
There are a few buildings that can serve as replacement labs, but they only house a couple of scientists at a time, and are extremely costly. Also, any hacking type production stuff requires the computers from the lab. Near the very end of the massive tech tree you gain the ability to build a supercomputer facility that can, among other things, allow hacking production. So it is possible, as far as I can tell, to win without the lab, but you'll be at an absolutely crippling disadvantage.
Is XCOM 2 good yet? Didn't play since launch.
Did they change a whole bunch of things, or did some mods fix it?
>>145787917
Yeah, but its your main base, so all your best troops and equipment should be their anyway. The main thing is that currently I am trying to run both research and manufacturing out the same base and am running out of room. I may have to move my manufacturing operations to another base soon
>>145788151
>seem pretty hokey
Oh no its extremely hokey. Like extremely, all the time, un-apologetically. Your crew is super-mutant pirate girls and it all builds off that premise flavor wise. If you absolutely cannon stomach all the pirate-themed talk and early equipment, plus the ridiculous amount of sexual content that starts with almost all armors being the equivelent of bikini chainmail and never stops.
For me though, I enjoy the whole package, the world and its factions/plot are actually very well constructed and interesting.
>>145788094
I haven't looked into exactly how this works so thanks for the detail. (especially the 50 bravery part).
>>145788429
Good to know.
>>145788645
It was great at launch
>>145788645
I've loved the fuck out of the game since launch day, and it's only gotten better,
>>145788772
It had enemies literally punch me through solid walls
>>145789198
Not to mention the ones that shoot you through roofs and floors.
>>145788645
Multiple patches and lots of mods, the final dlc is coming out soon which also should be paired with a patch. Its only been getting better. I'd still expect glitches, though not as pronounced as before.
>>145789198
And? Enemies can damage walls.
The few glitches that were in launched were mostly patched out within a few weeks. Doesn't make the game bad
>>145789198
>>145789267
Similar bugs happened to EW even in its latter days, and we still worshipped it.
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