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>STATISTICS
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Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/
>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui
>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/
So LGD's out of ESL Frankfurt 2016. Which team do you think would replace them?
>>145550942
easy question
>>145550942
Kemal is wiring the bribe over as we speak
>>145550942
I'd say either NoDig or Ad Finem, they can 5th and 6th in the EU qualifiers, but 3rd and 4th were both CIS so they might not be able to get their travel shit sorted in time.
I wish soe would sit on my face
>>145550942
BAMF stack
Have you also started learning ruski now that twitch for some reason removed language filters and we drown in babushka streams again?
hi
>>145551143
don't post this again
>>145551143
hi
>>145550942
DC of course
Geuss the mmr
Envy on his stream right now
>hey pink
>can I play carry please
>I know secret is a shit team
>But I'm still a carry player :(
B T F O
>>145551019
>>145551305
Sunsfan and Kemal racing on the bank transfer
How to play doom?
>>145551350
3.7k
>>145551350
>FV
>that winrate
4K?
>>145551517
>>145551523
>>145551764
How come you have 47% with nyx then?
abuse the fact that he;s invis and go for squishy heroes/supports
>>145551821
Because you need a hero that can 1v5 to climb. Farming their supports matters little when their carries are already farmed
>>145551764
>feeding during the calibration phase
Ourb guy Trgizi is strim :DDD
What the fuck is with matchmaking?
The game literally sets games up to succeed/fail.
I'm 4.1k and it set us up against a 6k, like...what the fuck?
It was so unfavorable that I only lost 20 mmr rather than 25.
And to boot, it happened TWO GAMES IN A ROW. Jesus fucking christ matchmaking is fucking rigged.
>>145552436
Yeah sure, rigged against you right.
whats the best way to an hero?
I love Dota!!!
>>145551256
wow, whos the qt mate?
>>145552585
Bottle of whiskey and a hose. You need a car, though.
WHEN WILL I GET MY POINTS FROM PREDICTIONS YOU FUCKING JEWISH SHITS
Does /d2g/ use macros? I have macro function embedded on my gaymen keyboard and I've been using single button for pta+oo+blink+medallion+bkb+duel for Legion Commander for example
It makes ganks so much easier
>>145552954
No we don't we are actually good at the game here.
>>145553064
How can you be faster than computer?
>>145551482
Choose one enemy
Inconvenience him
Do nothing else
Nothing at all
>>145552954
go away hacker
>>145550942
>Based xiao8 stack of coordination and discipline will be replaced by a group of greedy, backstabbing cockroaches
>>145552863
me :3
>>145550942
I read in Reddit that both Xiao8 and September are experiencing high as kite fever
>>145551213
Which hero is the most Monster Energy?
DOTARDS???
>>145553809
>is a monster
>is energy
>is pretty fucking disgusting desu
this guy
>>145553857
post futa horseccock
>>145553809
It has to be Ursa
>stomps ground
>fast attacks
>rage mode at 6
>>145552954
I had a macro for blink poofing with Meepo a while ago. It worked alright, but wasn't really worth the effort.
>>145552585
Just walk in to a jungle camp
>>145553857
how big is her dick?
A hero that badly needs a remake?
>>145554572
Sniper
>n0tail performs, outfarms miracle some games
>moon performs, lands several game winning chronos and hardly feeds offlane
>even retarded panel sucks cr1t off for his god tier performance
>fly figures out the metagame and outmemes even Kuro
how do people say this team is Miracle plus 4 anymore? 9k MMR means nothing without a good lineup around it.
>>145554572
Pit LordSqueezing him in would turn the meta into a 5-man rat galore
>>145552954
Nah, stuff like that creates an uneven playing field which takes away from the entire point of playing multiplayer games, and ultimately it just makes you lazy
lifestealer every game
I think the indian servers are pretty shit.
I get people who are 1000 mmr lower than me in my matches.
>>145554702
Fuck off noskill
So... who's to replace LGD at ESL One?
>>145555297
India is actually the lowest skill country in the world.
>>145555384
it'll be newbee
>>145554572
Brewmaster
>Not Today changed player
>Shazam changed players
>Dragnel probably changed players
>FDL too
Who the fuck is Valve going to invite for NA qualifiers?
>>145555672
yes
>>145555745
>FDL too
Who's out of FDL?
Peter Dager Verified account
@Peterpandam
Casters might want to consider upping their metaphor game or just stop trying to use them. Its funny tho
Zach G @DontDazeMeBr0 21h21 hours ago
@Peterpandam might wanna step up your DOTA game before worrying about others' jobs
BRUUUUUUUUUH
>>145555745
I hope no one because NA is literally a joke scene
>>145555958
>>145555958
Zachs got some sick banter there, but who the fuck is he?
Will Singsing make it to TI?
>>145555958
PPD's right though, I want a caster to define what tempo control means during a stream to take the term seriously. Rather just use word momentum.
Win condition at least means something.
so i know basically nothing about the pro scene, where do i go to learn about it
>>145555434
That might explain it
Whats the top skill one?
>>145556118
>Win condition at least means something.
Does it? Pretty sure a team can comeback when the enemy have reached their "win condition".
Is it impossible for a team to win until they have met their win condition?
>>145556198
Watch games and tournaments.
>le win condition
>not just say destroy the ancient condition
Fucking casters man.
>not
>muting
>casters
people do this?
Games with comebacks are the best adrenaline rush
>Radiant throne dies when solo Axe chops the throne dead from 300-500HP just before Juggernaut and co. spawn
>Valve implements the major system to "improve tournaments quality"
>All non valve lans became irrelevant
>The biggest teams either don't participate in them or just don't care about them
>You might see the top teams only play 1 or 2 days in months as opposed
>Since the pressure to get into them is so big all teams backstab each other as much as possible, merely getting last place is worth as much as getting top places in most other lans
>The quality of the teams keeps dropping sharply
>Which produces 0 hype for all tournaments since no one cares about the teams
>And utterly boring games
>all they achieved is to get people to buy 4 compendiums a year
>>145556260
Win condition just means that something has to happen for winning to be possible. If enemy has 6 slotted Tinker and the other team is winning yet unable to push because of march, then their win condition is to kill Tinker when he has no buyback or kill him twice and they win.
>>145556437
Except both OG and Liquid played in shit ton of tournaments through out the year.
Mean while Secret V3.0 crashed and burned with EG because they were TOO GOOD FOR ONLINE GAMES
>>145551109
put and "en" at the end of link
you are welcomee anon
>>145556406
>late game Lich
might as well be 4 vs 5.
>>145556437
>all they achieved is to get people to buy 4 compendiums a year
Just as planned
>>145556486
Tournaments in which no one but t4 teams try because of the mememayor
>>145551434
he still streams on panda?
>>145556437
what
doing well at non valve lans is how shitty teams like Wings get direct invites to majors
>>145556578
Yeah those TL and OG sure were T4 teams when they went to fucking 1st and 2nd in latest Major
Eat a shit faggotttt
Can we nerf Bounty into oblivion he's so fucking annoying early game its ridiculous.
>>145556437
>>The quality of the teams keeps dropping sharply
All true apart from that. Teams are getting much better and skill gaps are closing.
>>145556528
Sure, but our Terrorblade was constantly dying and we were against Aghs Necrolyte. Still, yeah Lich won't do much lategame..
This game is like an incredibly good high
>>145556437
Hardly different from pre-major times. You always have 1-3 reserved T1 teams that only attend few tournaments, like EG. Secret tries to be EG in this matter but they're shit so it doesn't work out for them.
Having 3 major events and TI to look forward to is significantly better than an odd chink LAN and Starladder here and ESL there scattered around 11 months when TI isn't happening.
Majors > big LANs before the majors system. Only a very few exceptions to this exist, like MLG Columbus.
>>145556620
I think you lack reading comprehension
>>145556649
No. Not only teams are getting shittier but valve keeps making the skill ceiling of the game collapse with every patch
holy shit when are the english streamers coming back?
Dotabuff is pretty neat since you can write private notes for yourself in the comment section (if you are logged in)
>>145554572
Tinker
>>145556719
Top teams of today could defeat any team that isn't a TI winner from the past. Skill level keeps rising and teams' skill levels are converging.
>You will never undo Zai's bun and fuck his bum
;_;I hope he's still good at the game.
>>145556719
>No. Not only teams are getting shittier
What? What proof do you have of this? Do you not see the tournament results and see how they vary alot and teams keep beating each other?
1st for trax=best waifu
>>145556712
>Hardly different from pre-major times. You always have 1-3 reserved T1 teams that only attend few tournaments, like EG. Secret tries to be EG in this matter but they're shit so it doesn't work out for them.
Before TI was 1 gorillion dollars all teams pretty much played every day and assisted to every possible tournament
>Having 3 major events and TI to look forward to is significantly better than an odd chink LAN and Starladder here and ESL there scattered around 11 months when TI isn't happening.
But there were more events , multiple ESLs multiple slav ladders, 3-4 international chinese tournaments plus chiense exclusive tourneys Dreamhack MLG, etc
And before that there were 1 gorillion online tournaments. Navi and alliance played like 1 or twice a wekk
>>145556805
lol no. Ti4 teams would mop the floor with all current teams
>>145553857
Nothing wrong with the major system
They all have open qualifiers too which is good
Yea I guess making other tournaments irrelevant kinda sucks but they still happen, just have to play most of their games online
>>145556952
>But there were more events
Quality over quantity
>next lan this weekend already
Who else can see this coming: OG will deliver an underwhelming performance and show that winning anything in this game means nothing.
Secret will never win lan
>>145557035
>There were no tournaments
>There were too many tournaments
What quality? Outside of the majors all teams don't try or dont participate and the ones that do are T4s teams as opposed to T1-3s like it happened before
a T3 from before was 10 times better than the ones from now
>>145557102
Is that new Secret roster?
Hey dotards, is there a way to remove client effects?
Like those unnecessary green/blue smoke while queuing for a match to lose.
>>145557102
>murica
>team acquires NA players
>instantly becomes worse
EVERY TIME
NA CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
The real tournament begins now, it's all been fun and games this year, but TI is the only thing that matters.
And TI is mine.
So, The Team Secret facebook page updated their cover photo.
>>145557298
psh, nothing personal.... kid
>>145557205
B _ _ _ _ t _ _ _ _ _
>>145557205
>He didnt fall for honeypot TI's nor for honeypot Majors
This man cannot be stopped, he will win TI6 (only non-honeypot valve lan) and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>145557298
What the fuck is up with Pie?
He looks ill.
>>145557298
So they became an organisation with sponsors and shit which is what puppey was escaping from in the first place...?
>bulba
>>145557338
Why does this guy look so damn autistic?
>>145557338
bulba thouhg
>>145557414
you have to actually win games to be able to make that happen
>>145557298
rofl did they swap with EG again
>>145557340
No idea
>>145557430
Because he has legit autism
>>145557414
They are their own organization, instead of being under some gaming organization.
>>145557298
I feel really bad for Secret now.
ITT: Faggots posting Shitrekt thinking that they will win anything ever.
>wake up
>see this guy on your team
what do
>>145554572
Void. He needs abacktrack.
How goes the climb guys
>>145550942
This is what happens when you go to the Philippines.
>>145557660
Nobody thinks they're going to win anything. Take off your tinfoil hat faggot.
>>145556437
>all they achieved is to get people to buy 4 compendiums a year
More like to pease leddit's communist fantasy of a developer controled scene like MUH LCS
Guess MMR bois
>>145557298
JUST: the team
>>145557803
alright, in the last 2 days i went up 50 mmr
>lifestealer is balanced
-d2g
>>145557825
Fuck off shitty chink.
>>145557861
2.8-3.3
>>145557723
Disband
>>145557861
why do you play so many games with heros you are bad at?
>>145556952
TI4 is 6k level at best
>>145557723
Cheats: Enabled.
>>145557851
Why would leddit care about that when the end result is a net lose for all viewers including themselves?
its just 4 jewpendiums they don't even give the 25% to the prizepool as poeple would know the amount of money they make isn't spent in dota
>We made 300 millions out of the jewpendiums
>Still no pitlord
>>145556437
as opposed to
>9 months of shit lans
>1 month of TI
>2 months of nolans and streamcucks
we get
>3 months of majors and high level dota
>1 month of TI
>7 months of russian streamers
>1 month of nolans
somehow the latter option is better
>>145557987
>Defending the MOST POWERFUL RACE IN THE WORLD
Listen here, pinoy. You are the poo in loos of South East Asia. Now go man your telephone, I've been on hold with customer support for 30 minutes.
>>145558201
Thanks, now you've confirmed you're a real shitty chink. Don't you have more dogs to eat and dota majors to ruin?
>>145558126
For sure that you weren't here when EE,ppd and RTZ started crying about MUH OVERSATURATION and having to play 8 hour a every two day worth of pro matches(OH SO HARD) while reddit wanted MUH EPIN STORYLINES AND STABILITY
>>145558201
How new
>>145557298
Kemal ruined a great team
>>145557298
What's wrong with his eyes familia?
>>145558025
>>145558063
Peaked at 5.8 now I'm 5.3.
MMR stopped updating on dotabuff awhile ago Idk why :c
>>145558451
He's not white
What right click hero do i pick against balanced armor goblin of mobility and burst damage when my support is retarded, gulag?
>>145558140
Why were they shit? All of them were hype because what mattered were the teams and we saw compete against each other constantly across the planet. Not only we saw them on the tournaments themselves but in all qualifiers
now you see them once a month then in the hypeless major since no one has seen them for so long only to not be seen up until the next major. They don't even go through the qualifiers since there are at least 8 invites
>>145558295
I was here since before TI3
dota went to shit and so did the whole esport department
The one who went muh oversaturation was james and that was around TI3 because of all online tournaments that started overlapping each other.
The whole year previous to TI4 was awesome
Now no one gets anything and and dota is dying
>>145558497
>idk why
You need to connect it to your account again
>>145558451
his soul is gone
>>145558451
He is Tajik that's why
>>145558497
>40% winrate storm
>>145558618
But his father looks like a fat italian and his mother looks like a slav.
>>145558497
but how do you achieve such a low kda on heroes like sf?
It's going to be so interesting to see how Zai fares compared to Crit and Jerax in the upcoming lans. Damn, so many gud supports
Who here /sub 50 winrate with his favourite heroes/
>>145558545
>here before ti3
so you're new
Daily reminder that Leshrac is the meta king and the day he returns again to rule the game, we will finally have peace from this garbage of a patch.
>>145558646
Can't win in 5 k with him at all
But when playing in memestacks its easy win
ESPORTS FUCKING WHEN
Is Centaur secret op?
>>145558872
That's a cute girl. What's her name?
>>145558717
Iv been playing since 2011
And have 130+ abandons I guess that's why. I also only play ranked
>>145558931
>Over 10 million players and no signs of stopping.
I can't wait to see how dotards are going to explain that away.
>>145558726
>tfw
>>145558931
oh no, the $40 casual gamer tax has more players than dota what now dotards
>>145558931
>Constant average growth for 5 years
OH GOD THE HORROR
>>145558872
source on this hentai manga? I need it for my daily sadpanda routine
>>145558545
teams literally just formed around ti m8
>be dotard
>shitpost about overwatch
>accomplish ??? since no one even gives a shit about overwatch here
???
>>145559109
>>145558923
>tfw
(real favourites being Rubick, Void and Windrunner)
>>145559250
I remember HotS fags saying this too. Now look at where they are now.
>>145558931
I don't get it.
Guess MMR
>>145559371
It makes the thread look alive at least.
>>145559415
1.5k
>>145559250
all you're saying is that there are lots of casual gamers
no shit
>>145559358
Bullshit
That started happening after TI4
>>145559415
>110 invoker games where he's carried 62.73% of the time.
looks like 2k mmr to me
>>145558931
Dota 2 is always going to be free.
That means poor people will always play it more.
there also more poor people than rich people.
PS: People only play overwatch to see tracer's ass.
>>145559382
>top 3 moba in the world
>made blizzard filthy rice
>failure
It's also on the rise again with it's new ranked system. It's anything but a failure.
>>145559250
it has 20 tick servers, less than tghe 64 tick servers people complain about for CS, so much so they pay for a private client
>>145559590
>Top 3 out of 5 mobas
pfft
>>145558545
>Now no one gets anything and and dota is dying
The combined prizepool of majors is more than the LAN prizepools from pre-major era and you need to remember that they were experiencing ridiculous growth in that department.
Also since Valve is reliable and majors are Valve events, teams don't need to worry about getting paid in case the tournament is a scam.
>>145559602
>20 tick
What does this mean?
That it updates every 0.05 seconds?
>>145559530
the only team with a stable roster was Navi prior to TI4. You would have teams changing every month. The level of play was very low outside of a handful of teams. Chinks were never good, westerners just tilted the fuck out at the first sign of a cheese strat. Burning is trash. Everyone in china is trash and relies on cheese.
I actually hope this game dies so entitled shitters who make a living from this game are forced to beg on the streets. Fuck this 2 year long meta of 5 man after 5 minutes, at least a few years back, the 5 man shitters would get wrecked by solo kings
>>145559581
>down syndrome difficulty
>waifu
>advertised to open public
nice bait
>>145559805
>entitled shitters
Someone is projecting something, how are they entitled? Just because your shitter ass wasn't accepted to whatever team is out there?
LMAO
>>145559794
CS:GO cuck detected
>>145559805
>at least a few years back, the 5 man shitters would get wrecked by solo kings
I wonder who's behind this post
>>145559962
Man I'm so fucking glad Storm is in the fucking trash
>>145559769
20 packets per second, so yes. The csgo private server has 128 tick rate servers, much much higher.
>>145559794
It's not, 20hz is ass, like super ass. Alos that idiot who thinks HotS is good is retarded, they have some fucking weird way of making the servers actually work for that that runs like ass.
>>145560027
>20hz
why are you talking about monitor refreshrates
Guys I haven't played since 6.87 came out, I need to know which heroes are FREE (FREE) wins now
>>145559565
65% percent actually, I don't know which one is the real number though
>>145559753
>Money money money
>Tournaments are hypeless shit
>there are net less important tournaments than before
>Scene is dead
>Teams are getting worse
>>145559805
Bullshit TI2 and 3 no one changed rosters. For TI4 only DK from the important teams and newbee at the last moment changed roster o and that fnatic backstab at the last minute
Now teams rosters after every major so you care even less about them
>>145560093
hz is a general unit of frequency, 20 tick rate = 20 packets as second, measured in hz
>>145560098
Why the fuck do you use Dotabuff when YASP is so much better
>>145560124
there's more money yeah, I hope your not pulling some inflation meme here
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong
>>145560093
hertz is used to denote frequency retard
>IT IS *REDDITORS GET FUCKING TRIGGERED* WHEN TEAMS CHANGE ROSTER RERUN
>>145560002
No biggies, he will get overbuffed in the post ti patch since tinker will be dumpstered again :^)
I hope EG get knocked out in open qualifiers even though I know it's impossible cause NA are dogshit at the game
>>145560258
>Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time.
???
??
?
Guys, how do I play these heroes?
>>145560186
>>145560186
I use both, but Dotabuff works better on mobile
>>145560341
>repeating event
server update
>per unit time
per second
>>145560002
i really miss storm, i agree he should be as OP as he was but at least make his ult not take all his mana to go the range of fucking leap
>>145557414
What puppey wanted was a bigger slice of the pie for himself. It was never about player freedom or whatever reddit thought, it was about himself. Which is fine.
>>145560186
What's so good about yasp?
>>145560343
Is it time?
>>145560342
You don't, ez
>>145559962
>Storm was OP
>Storm wasn't part of the 5 man squad
top memes
also that was my post
>>145560093
Jesus Christ...
Sometimes I wonder if americans are self aware of their ignorance
>>145560580
Provides far more detailed statistics of the matches? For example it can compare your 10 minute last hits to average of playerbase on said hero in said lane.
That's neat
>>145560002
t. actual support cuck.
You could put storm back in his prime and would still be shit currently
>le balanced harry potter cape
>le balanced jungle creep of stacking magic resistence.
>Give treant +6 damage
>What he did well, he still does the same as before
>What he did badly, he still does the same as before
literally what does this change accomplish? IT does nothing for his strengths or weaknesses
>>145560095
Lifestealer, slark, and str heroes. No one know about 688 yet
>>145560741
Icefrogs does buffs like that just to remind people heroes exist.
>>145558726
Nope
>>145560095
Medusa mid
>>145558726
nooope
>>145560741
all the buffs and nerfs are like this
>nerf lifestealers BAT making him shitty for actually carrying
>retain his cheesy bullshit infest
>nerf timbers timber chain removing all skill from the hero
>buff his passive, making it even more braindead
epic lol!
>>145558918
>Girl
>>145559275
Look up artist gujira
Where were you when Overwatch killed every other esport?
>>145560095
Le balanced shouty bird and pig man
>>145560985
>overwatch
>other esport
>>145555518
Play him as a roaming support a la kunkka.
>>145560741
it makes him slightly better at level 1 which is the only useful about him until at least minute 10
>hots as their major equivalent happening right now
>not even 15k viewers
>>145560741
Because heroes are supposed to have strengths and weaknesses, not be jack of all trades like Lol heroes
poor redeye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yRFOnGM8-I&feature=youtu.be&t=6s
>>145560741
Literally nothing
All they want to do is tweak some heroes they want to be meta the rest is literally filler. Next patch after TI will nerf those heroes to shit and overbuff others
Not only icefrog doesnt work anymore in dota but valve is literally copying blizzard business philosophy
>>145560741
>Increased base attack damage from 56-64 to 62-70 (total attack damage is now 87-95)
Can get Aghanims like 10% faster?
I wonder how Aui feels right now
>>145561158
who cares? Overwatch is growing and fast. People said LoL was to casual for esports but look how big it was.
As soon as Overwatch starts doing Esports every other game is finished
They'll do their own compendium and blow TI the fuck out
It's going to be so embarrassing when Overwatch continues to grow 2 years down the line can't wait to keep hearing all the Dotard excuses then :)
>>145560741
>not overbuffing
you idiots will complain about any change
>>145561362
>Thinking overwatch can compete with Quake 2017
>>145561362
I hope you're right, I bought that game and don't want it to die so soon.
>>145561362
>yfw it will be more dead than fighting games and RTS within a few months
>>145561362
I mean, who cares?
Dota and Overwatch fill different niches. I play dota because I'm a depressed sadsack and love to play a game that will suck my whole day so I can forget about how depressed I am as I slowly make imaginary gold and get the big triple kill plays.
Overwatch is for those first person shooter moments when I actually want to interact with friends.
Overwatch isn't fun to watch though and the viewers who watch shooters and ARTs are different.
>>145560947
>Timberchain being interruptable removes skill from the hero
it is quite literally the opposite of that m8, Before you could literally 'lol i chain away scott-free fuck carefulness'
>>145561550
>ARTs
It's ASSFAGGOTS
>>145561362
>Implying OW esports won't die because of rampant pro level cheating
>>145561353
Dead people can't think anon.How do you guys think he killed himself? Seems like a slit wrists in the bathtub kinda guy to me.
now that russia is shit at soccer AND dota what is there left for them lads
>>145561362
I can't wait for Quake Champions to BTFO Overmeme
>>145561727
Kebab removal