>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D
Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC
>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php
>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png
>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n
>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU
>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy
>Previous thread
In archive
You let the thread die
die already!!!
I'm sorry ;_;
>>145414285
No.
The plot of Apocalypse is fucking retarded
>hurr the great will is good and YHVH was going against it and also he made Lucifer, not people wishing for him
We finally had been set free...
huh we got killed again
>>145418042
I'll never let you die, SMTG
0-5 Sun
6 Amala Labyrinth
7-9 Legwork
>>145418436
Time to go greet the voice.
>>145418436
RIP
>>145418645
What is that image?
It's dead cause everyone is jerking off to E3
>>145421478
Anything decent or is it all rubbish?
>>145421565
Kojima is making an mpreg game.
>>145421565
I only know about what my friend told me, and what vitagen was screaming about.
Sony had a bunch of VR shit I guess, and Last Guardian is coming out this year.
>>145421478
>Mfw Sony showed P5 for exactly 2.5 seconds just like I predicted
kek
Persona is big, they said!
guys /pg/ is making fun of us again
>>145423672
and are you gonna let 'em?
>>145424732
Let us sleep, please.
>>145414114
>>Previous thread
>In archive
OP is a lazy faggot who needs to get killed by Jack Frost >>145127660
>>145424732
why do we need to make fun of them when they already are the joke.
>>145425103
damn son
>>145425015
I already got killed by him inDDS2
Die for me!
>>145423849
Should i play raidou /smtg/?
>>145418645
Is that Sarashi Ronin?
>>145427364
Play 1 first since the 2nd game's gameplay is better. They're fun and kinda short so you could probably finish both pretty quickly.
>33 replies
>they are all bumps
Reminder that there's no reason to keep this general alive
>>145430010
I didn't bump though.
>>145430010
Except there's a new mainline coming to the west soon and people discuss SMT all the time, so yes there is a reason to keep this general alive
Can't you link to the last thread properly?
So is
>merging with /pg/
and
>non-white flavored kill this gen
the Polytheist Alliance to /smtg/'s Law, Neutral, Chaos?
I WILL___CRACK!
>>145430872
The merge already happened those who aren't there are on /r/ megaten or memeing on the discord. /smtg/ is a barren wasteland kept alive be a single autist bumping the thread and whenever he falls asleep the general dies.
>>145431381
>discord
what is this meme anyway
also >r/megaten not being for autists
>>145431381
I doubt those two claims are legit, and this is more about people losing interest like it was happening right before the announcement of IV FINAL.
If they're true then nothing of value was lost, and the general would be better off dead.
>>145423672
It's literally nothing.
>>145430862
Already called out OP for his faggotry. Read the thread, dickface.
RIP general.
You were alright, but I guess this place will stay dead until September.
>>145428943
Shorter than DDS?
>>145431715
Sorry, I just started working a job full time so I can't post or even play SMT too often. I hope I can finish Eternal Punishment soon... I didn't expect to work 11 hours a day...
>>145435790
Similar story here, gave up NEET life and now I can't post here and play games all the time.
>>145435790
>>145435994
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THIS NEET LIFE
>>145436136
i would if i could
>>145436136
post NEETdom it's just a different flavor of hell desuno friends,no girlfriend,live to work and work to live cycleI guess sudoku is the only cure for human failures after all.
>>145436136
Being a part of the workforce doesn't make me feel any better. At least I have money, I guess.
>>145437214
Same, I'm working on finishing my MegaTen collection but I just feel like shit.
I need you Fumi
BaofuDSM to the rescue
>>145434903
I haven't played DDS yet but both Raidou games are action RPGs so they pretty easy. I finished the 2nd game with 75 hours but that was because I did most of the side quests and was trying to max out loyalty for every demon I fused and encountered.
Don't die.
>>145444846
Die for Me!
>>145445090
My love for Fumi is eternal though.
>>145433843
Just got Naoya's ending. Why is he so based?
goodnight
Hoy.
>>145447040
Because he's handsome and smart?
Deadly fury or Gaea rage?
Stats are World of [STR]
>>145454342
Gaea Rage.
>>145454342
Deadly fury.
>>145454342
Deadly Fury
Hoy.
This artwork is 10/10, holy shit
>Hyped for Summer release for Apocalypse
>Realise that being an Ausfag is counted as Europe
lol
>>145421565
Basically Microsoft killed it and SONY announced Crash Bandicoot HD remakes.
SMT Apocalypse confirmed for 4th of July.
>>145460491
Link?
Hoy.
>>145462998
Hoy.
>>145435790
>>145435994
I did the same. I work 40 hours a week, so I hardly have any time for video games, and even less time to come here and post.
I've been wageslaving for a while, so I can safely drop some cash for more SMT goodness
Should I wait for Final or just get SMT IV
>>145466438
Get SMT IV first.
How does the alignment mini game in Tokyo Destiny Land works, again? I'm trying to become a neutralfag again by going through the Chaos hallways over and over but shit doesn't work. I've been a Lawfag since I killed Yama.
>>145466715
If I remember correctly, there are four rooms in the bottom and they contain NPCs of different alignments: C L C L. Each NPC gives you like 75 points of his alignment
However, note that you lock yourself out of Law if you kill that Angel that hangs out with the Law Hero and out of Chaos if you kill Mother Echidna.
>>145468159
I've met the Gaian at the end of the first hallway a few times and I'm still Law. The bird in the other room doesn't spawn again.
>>145468264
Did you tell the Angel guy and Law Hero you would help them and then kill Mother Echidna? That locks you into Law.
I never go too far into either extreme, but in my experience just meeting one sends me to Neutral and meeting both NPCs sends me to the opposite alignment.
>>145468596
You mean in Shinagawa? I told them to fuck off.
I'm reading the original digital devil story that inspired the series and wew.
Not what I expected.
What I really want to know is how the hell a book like that got popular enough to warrant a video game.
It's not bad or anything, just very, odd, that's all.
Why is this allowed?
>>145472808
Because Nocturne's development was a shitshow
>>145474910
Explain further.
![1465896090252[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OnibDml.jpg "1465896090252[1].jpg")
Apologize.
>>145476272
Negotiation is back?
>>145476341
yep
>>145476341
Seems like there's a chance (or maybe it's guaranteed) when you have the opportunity to do an AoA, you can instead demand something from the demon who is begging for mercy.
>Give me your strength
>Give me something
>Loot is good
So I finally downloaded Nocturne and I was having a blast until this guy shows up.
Fuck me, you guys weren't kidding. How the hell do I beat this fucker?
>>145477145
Buff/debuff. Buy Hifumi.
>>145477246
I dekaja him but he just rebuffs the very next turn. And he debuffs my entire party every turn as well.
Hifumi's great advice though, I'll get on that.
>>145477145
I was rpetty underleveld for it, but if you have Hifumi equipped, and maybe get lucky with the RNG you might pull thourgh.
>>145477145
GET THE BUFFS
>>145478050
I'm level 18. I really feel like I should have Media, but grinding another level doesn't seem fun at all. I'll try it with Hifumi equipped.
Would smtg suck my demongirl cock?
>>145478935
No, fuck off.
>>145478935
Nope, we'd just kill you.
>>145479126
>>145479053
I thought I was a waifu.
>>145479179
Only hugs for Mara, but you're not Mara, imposter.
When is Atlus showing their stuff at E3? I want more info on Apocalypse in the west
>>145478272
>I'm level 18
You should have Ame no Uzume who has Media and Voids Force. Get a Nozuchi, too. He absorbs Force.
>>145479395
15 minutes their booth opens
>>145478935
>girl
>cock
It doesn't work that way anon. Sorry, but you'll always be a boy.Unless you're Jenna Angel.
>>145477246
>>145478050
>>145478075
I did it. God that was satisfying. Is Matador the only boss people have a lot of trouble with in Nocturne, or am I in for a couple more down the line? Matador really seems infamous for being hard, I've known of him for years before even touching Nocturne.
>>145478050
>>145479752
To be honest, I got a bit lucky with the RNG. I threw a dekaja gem at him and he only Red Capote'd me once more a bit down the line. The first few times I fought him he just instantly rebuffed himself, which made my whole part miss him and basically making my turns useless.
>>145479563
Nozuchi definitely was a help. He healed himself each time Matador threw a Mazan at me, and my character could just heal the party whilst they buff and attack.
Great fight, this is why I like SMT.
>>145476593
Forget everything negative I said about persona 5 this game's gonna be great! Negotiation and demons as enemies? Looks like Atlus finally got their shit together!
>>145479752
Prep yourself for more death
>>145480260
Fuck, I can already feel the Hama's.
>>145479653
Link? I don't know how E3 works because I usually don't give a shit about modern games, but isn't it like, when their booth opens we get a trailer of their new game or something?
>>145480513
No. Those are the conferences. Booths opening up is when people can go check their shit out in person. Just demos and stuff.
I think I might be more hyped for the new Zelda than for Apocalypse now. I'm sorry, /smtg/.
>>145480598
Are there regular people going to E3 or all journos?
>>145480965I'm more hyped for Nier Automata than for Apocalypse and Persona 5.I'm not sorry.
I'm so glad I'm playing games instead of watching nintendo's stream
>>145480986
Yeah. You can buy a pass and go there if you have the money.
>>145481095Good taste, anon.I never cared about P5. Demon negotiation being back makes me slightly interested though.
>>145481382
I'm on the other side of the Atlantic, so no thank you. They're having Apocalypse there though, so I wonder if we're gonna get some more details on that game now.
![Ck7wa_ZUUAAKqmq[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ADkiDnE.jpg "Ck7wa_ZUUAAKqmq[1].jpg")
booth opened
>>145481776
Fuck, someone has to stream this
>>145481849
Someone probably is. Check Twitch.
>>145481558Automata has been king in my hype charts since it was announced last year. GOTY 2017.
>>145481919
Can't find a shit there. Guess I'll just have to wait for the articles, fuck
>>145482212Automata, Zelda, and Apocalypse are looking like good shit and I feel hyped about vidya again. Just wish those DMC5 rumors came true.
>>145482439I'm also hyped for Bloodstained, finally a Castlevania game that isn't a Pachinko machine.
>>145479752
For me he and hell biker were the hardest fiends.
For rest of the game I'd say the random battles will kill you more than the bosses, especially on hard.
>>145479752
>>145479752
Matador is special
>>145483256
>For rest of the game I'd say the random battles will kill you more than the bosses
You speak the truth. Just lost half an hour's worth of fucking about in Kalpa. Seems I'm in for a ride with this game.
>>145481558
>Demon negotiation being back
Not hapenning anon, they already showed the P5 battle UI and there's no negotiation options on it.
>>145415945
But YHVH did make Lucifer in mythology.
The whole people wishing for it is IV Lucy talking out of his ass since the Lawfaqs wish for order and he immediately states Flynn should be king on chaos because the sons of man wish for it. People wish for God to banish despair as Jon Merkabah says on Neutral.
>>145482960
I really want to like this guy's designs, but the sameface is intense; in that respect he ans Kaneko are very similar, but at least kaneko's designs weren't intended to be obvious fap bait.
Shin Megami Tensei II iOS localization sometime after Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse releases.
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey 3DS sometime after Persona 5 releases.
>>145485446
:>
I wouldn't mind if the one on the left was the original design, but the fact that they changed it because women's skin is scary is fucking retarded. Either way, it makes my dick rock hard though.
>>145486358
Cyber Sluts is such a good game.
>>145486579
I enjoyed it too. Hard mode was bullshit.
Live.
>>145488819
Link.
Does Eternal Punishment get super good at some point? I thought people praised this as a classic, i enjoyed nocturne, SJ, SH and DDS2 more than this so far.
Up to SMILE mall, after fighting the fortune telling lady in the TV station.
That's right
>new Persona 5 gameplay just got leaked
>Personafags can only talk about dubs instead of gameplay
What's wrong with those people? If they want anime voice than just go watch a fucking anime.
>>145466715
I killed Haniel and went back to Neutral.
Then I killed Echidna and went back to Law.
What the fuck is going on? Am I locked into Law or Neutral?
>>145492068
Locked toslut
>>145491787
I seriously hate how that annoying little shit follows the MC and comments on everything he does.
>>145492068
I had to go through BOTH the paths that led to the Gaian and Gurr to change my alignment.
>>145494430
https://twitter.com/robtachi/status/742833189262000128
>>145495106
THEY ACTUALLY DID IT
THE ABSOLUTE
>>145495106
But if Persona has that implemented, and it's positively received, won't that kill mainline SMT for realsies?So why am I still excited to see more?
>>145495040
I-I was just kidding, look >>145494574 I even gave real advice!And if you make it this fun to bully you...
>>145495389
>won't that kill mainline SMT for realsies?
SMT still has alignments and less otaku pandering. Unless they decide Final is going to be the new standard for SMT game writing we'll be okay.
>>145495830
>>145495568
I just want to know if I'm locked to Neutral or Law!
I would keep playing and find out by myself but I'm too tired and my eyes hurtStop that.
Still no Apocalypse release date
>>145496015
I get the concern. It's not hard to think they might get the idea that they need to add that stuff into SMT more because Persona is their best seller. I have faith though, because they'd have to go full retard to want to compete with themselves.
>>145496048
Well, no
I'm pretty sure you can still change it
Good night, m8
>>145496354
I want to believe that they have enough storyboards to keep reusing the new models, since they reused the models from Nocturne accross a couple of games, but if we get stuck with P5 and like 3, or 4 P5 spinoffs
>>145496354
>latest SMT game borrows from Persona
>latest Persona game borrows from SMT
Are we witnessing the death of the series and the return of Shin Megami Tensei: Persona?
>>145496221
Didn't it get pushed to next year? No, I think that might be P5.
Maybe you are PAL region though?
![Hellsing-Order05-Brotherhood(anime-mx)_[A4E7F348].mkv_snapshot_04.33_[2015.11.26_20.46.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6jdojPN.jpg "Hellsing-Order05-Brotherhood(anime-mx)_[A4E7F348].mkv_snapshot_04.33_[2015.11.26_20.46.29].jpg")
>>145496558
I want to go neutral because I imagine there will be more stuff to murder as usual but it doesn't really matter. I'm okay with sucking some yellow cock too.
>>145497110
Don't worry, m8
Just get your rest and figure it out after that.But If you really can't escape your hunger; just remember that there's always /coffhee/
>>145495106
>you can negotiate with Personas like in SMT:Nocturne
>Personas
>the enemies even have that sudden centering of the camera like they did in Nocturne/DDS that was lost in P3/4
nice
>>145486669
Yeah, I started that game up and went straight to Hard Mode. First fight with Jimiken is kicking me in the dick. Is it worth it to grind or am I in for a mess? I guess this is what I get for taking a break from IV.
>>145497462
Sleep is for the weak.Coffee sucks, it tastes like shit and destroys my stomach.
>>145498164
Jimiken is fucking impossible in hard mode, especially hissecondfight. If you've got the time for that then grind I guess, some bosses are also literally impossible even if you grind though. There's nothing wrong with going back to normal.
>atlus booth is now closed
>not a single shred of information on Apocalypse or a video has appeared on the internet since Persona is grabbing all the attention
How?
>>145499874
>>145499874
/pg/ won.
>>145500707
I'm okay with Persona being the biggest because that means they can keep the fan-service mostly there, but to think absolutely no one cared about SMT? That's a shame.
>>145501201
The game's been out in Japan for quite some time and it looks way too similar to IV, I'm not surprised not a lot of people cared about it. Maybe there's some stuff out there we haven't found yet, get to it anon.
Devil Summoner/If translation when? Localized SMT1/2 for android when?
>>145504087Never ever
>>145498482
Isn't alignment locked after Echidna and Haniel?
>>145505160
Why didn't SJ get a souped up 3DS version?
>>145505994
too hardcoreI would have wanted it
>>145505160
Only after Tokyo is flooded
Did Final/Apocalypse fix STR builds?
I could let it die but this is a world where only the strong survive
>>145505160
>>145507094
I have actually changed my alignment after Tokyo got flooded, but it was probably a bug and got me trapped without being able to finish the game (due to having already killed some demon lords as Neutral)
>>145507553
I remember some importers mentioning that they did change how the physical skill damage formula works, basically fixing it.
can't wait for persona 5 ^^
aoty btw (by the way)
So the merge has happened?
>I'm finally in the /SMT&PG/
feels good tbqh. together we stand, alone we fall apart.
We can finally become one.
Hi /pg/
Hoy, sup dude.
>>145513829
It's /smt&pg/ now
I've heard you guys like waifus
WHO FUCKED IT UP
>>145495106
Can't endure this game, even with demon negotiation.
The characters look like faggots. Doomguy is better.
>>145514452
>The characters look like faggots
>>145514452
>The characters look like faggots.
tf is this game?
>>145514546
>>145514606
>>145513913
>>145513913
SMTIV is $13.99 right now
>>145514848
Anything for Soul Hackers?
>>145514770
>p-please don't criticize my series o-okay I was just kidding please leave!
I thought you guys were chaos aligned.
>>145514848
Where? I don't want digital
>>145515030
e-shop :/
>>145514916
doesn't look like
Hoy.
>>145516839
yoH
Ded
>>145514761
It's a game for children
>>145521518
>he doesn't like the game that Persona copied
>>145521758
>Persona
>>145459375
Yeah, I fucking love Doi.
>>145489163
If you don't like it you probably won't. I didn't like the gameplay until I got the hang of gathering cards and summoning Personae and now I dig it but the music is legendary and the story's pretty fun.
>>145521758
>the game that copied Last Bible/SMT
Fixed that for you.
>>145528291
AbdA
>>145528291
I'm impressed
Please, make this a real world
>Siegfried, Jeanne D'Arc, and Yoshitsune are famed
>no Daisoujou
I really liked my first play through of SMT IV but if im honest it messes up a lot of small things.
>>145459375
Man the guest designs are reallyshit
>>145532779
They really are. At least Medusa got a rework in Apocalypse.
I really liked Medusa's design in IV. Then again, I've been a fan of Nirasawa for years. What does Medusa look like in Final?
SMT x Monster Rancher when?
>>145534173
Same as the old one, but with a nice face.
>>145534173
I like her much better now
>>145534321
I want to fuck that snake
>>145534321
>>145534451
Semen demons
>>145535004
This a new demon from Final? Never seen it before.
>>145535487
Cleopatra was DLC.
>>145535567
I see. I can't wait to pirate all the DLC this time around
come alive
>>145427916
I like that Raidou's gigantic cock is a plot device
>>145480256
>negotiation
>actual demons
>is that a fucking sub machine gun in my Persona again
there's only one thing that could make this better
>>145538487
I want to fuck Maya as she calls me "little brother."
>>145538582
"Let's Positive Dicking!"
SMT V when so I can stop coming to this dead thread?
>>145540283
The next SMT game will be on the ps4, you heard it here first
>>145540443
I hope so
Or at least on a home console
I am sick of playing my games on tiny screen
>>145541309
>won't go on a nintendo console after FE
>3DS is practically done already
>Persona 5 engine was made from scratch
I think there is a high chance its on the ps4, if not SMT V, then some spinoff series.
Can they at least announce the release date for SMTIVA?
>>145541576
>10 years between Nocturne and IV
2023 for SMT V confirmed
>>145541651
Summer*
(TL's note: Summer means September)
>>145541692
Get hyped boys
Anyone else have trouble with Nocturne randomly freezing? I must've lost hours worth of grinding/progress by now. Is there anything I can do about it?
I downloaded it on my PS3 if this helps.
>>145495389
P1 and 2 had negotiation.
>>145542792
>I downloaded it on my PS3 if this helps.
Pal version?
some oc, someone could probably make it better tho
>>145543446
I would imagine not as it's not on the EU shop. I used my US account to download it, so I'm use it's the American version.
>>145543623
Then I'm not sure. The Pal version of Nocturne has a lot of cases of freezing, specially after beating the game. I never heard any problems with the NTSC version. Try redownloading.
>>145514960
Nah, this general is full of crybabies who don't want to engage in an argument and just want to hide in a safe space to keep the "undesirables" out.
>>145543868
>argument
I see no arguments
>>145544052
Oh right it's all just shitposting by terrible people that should be ignored.
