>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D
Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC
>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php
>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png
>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n
>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU
>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d
>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf
>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy
>Previous thread
I don't wanna try to fight this love.
You forgot to link the previous thread
>>144808779
>>145127952
Oops, thought I did. My bad.
Nice, I also wanted to have DDS in the next OP.
Thread's theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOuxOvYV_CU
Russia apparently got rangebanned from the site. Not sure how long it will last.
>>145130284
It's already over.
This must be the work of an enemy DebiSama!
What is your favourite SMT game and why?
>>145131010
If we mean real SMT, Nocturne because I like Press Turn and I don't like handhelds.
If we mean anything, DDS2 because futa.
>>145131010
The first one for setting, plot and characters.
FINAL for gameplay and fusion.
SH and SJ for dungeon crawling.
>>145131010
Nocturne. First SMT game I ever had, barringPersona 3 FES. Still have the original PS2 CD with instruction manual. Still have my original PS2 next to me too, from 2002-3ish.
Still works like new. Haven't used it in about a year now, maybe two. Use it several times every couple years.
>>145131125
Also DeSu 1/OC for characters and plot.
Who here is Christian? How does that affect how you play SMT?
>>145131290
>Christian
DEMI FIEND'S ARMS ARE NOT BLUE
>>145131446
Don't summon anyone
>>145131290
I don't really care because it's not actually God.
I'm just afraid my family will interpret "Devil Summoner" as something else and send me to a mental facility.
>>145131290
My first runs are always law
Wake up
>>145134770
CAN'T WAKE UP
SWEET DREAMS!
Guy who started the series at Megami Tensei, just beat Lucifer and am headed into MT2. Is the normal strat of "Vit/Str for Male Hero, Int/Spd for Female Hero" the preferred way of going about this?
>>145138821
I think it's applicable for MT1 - SMT2.
bump?
>>145131290
I'm aMuslimand a neutfag.
>>145131950
I don't think they send you to mental asylums for heresy these days.
>>145131290
My priest said it was OK as long as I realized it was just a game and didn't let it shake my faith, and he said that when I told him about SMT II. Including the final boss. So I don't worry about it.
>>145144831
Damn son, you should've recorded that shit because that would've been some quality cringe content
>>145144926
No bullying. Please respect everyone.
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
ONE LESS THREAD ARCHIVED
welcome to my virtual reality
do you like it?
I made it so you could die here
>>145144831
I'm glad he was so open-minded about it. I feel like Christians shouldn't get triggered by SMT just like with the Golden Compass.
>>145131290
I'm an atheist and I don't care.
Oh shit
I'm really digging this final boss in Raidou
What's better, smtiv or devil survivor for 3ds?
In terms of overall story, character development, and demons etc
Killed a failure of a god and beat Raidou. I really want to finish DDS2 next, but I still have to beat the special bosses. Should I beat the game, save in a clear slot, then go back to previous save and beat the extra bosses? Or should I beat the extra bosses then beat the game?
>>145162285
I'm thinking of playing DDS next too
If I was you I'd take out the special bosses after finishing the game
How do I beat Mot?
I don't have any electric pokem-- Err- Demons.
>>145163561
Pic related is DDS2 optional bosses. Spoilered because spoilers.
>>145164438
Get some digimon with Zio then.
>>145165058Do I need to fight Vishnu and Shiva before I can fight Seth? Completely forgot Seth was a boss
>>145165420Yes, both
>>145165458
Time to start grinding, I guess
Zio
>>145160952
Overall story
SMT IV 1st Half > DeSu 1/OC > SMT IV 2nd Half > DeSu 2 Septentrione Arc >= FINAL > Triangulum Arc
Character Development
DeSu OC > SMT IV >= DeSu 2 Septentrione > FINAL > Triangulum
Demons (story-wise)
DeSu OC >= FINAL > IV
DeSu 2 might be better or worse depending if you like aliens
Demons (gameplay wise)
FINAL > IV = RB > OC
Fusion
FINAL > IV > RB > OC
Gameplay
RB > OC
FINAL > IV
Depends if you like Press Turn or Extra Turn and Grid
Gameplay Length
RB >>> FINAL > OC >= IV
>>145169159
>DeSu OC
>Character Development
The characters end the game exactly as they started
Sarmati sumoning when?
How does FINAL rank with all the games?
>>145131290
I accept God and recognize his existence, but that doesn't diminish the hate I feel for it, so I go out of my way to punch God in the face
>>145164438
Use the Magatama that gives you bolt storm
>no extra boss in the neutral route
Lul
>>145131290
>having a religion
You guys should really consider doing the White Ending.
Does Avenge work on Wu Kong?
He's already immune to Physical so I don't know if it would ever even activate.
Like, How can you counter if you aren't even affected?
>>145175969
Forgot the pic
>>145175969
Counterattack skills don't work if you don't actually take damage, no.
>>145175969
>>145176119
>>145176698
Avenge kicks in against all Physical-type skills, whether they deal Phys damage or not, meaning that it can counter Surt and the late-game Almighty-based boss normals.
With that said, I still don't recommend replacing anything there with it except Brutal Slash
>>145175521
>tips fedora
I want Chaos Hero's coat.
>>145179316
>Not law hero's so you can start your own fight club
>>145179407
I understood that reference but I haven't seen the movie. Law Hero a shit anyway.
>>145179316
>wants to a school shooter coat
>>145178363
>either you tip your fedora or you have a religion
Both are gross.
>>145179894
Who doesn't?
Posting this OC for no reason.
>>145183182
Very epic, thank you.
>>145183182
>never forget
>>145183517
sorry forgot pic
>when they say that, characters in SMT IV is souless but never played a game of the main franchise before
>dying
>>145184473
Congrats, you got why it's on the pic.
>>145131010
MT2 because the pacing, story, and music were to perfection.
>>145183718
>implying most of those are not true
>>145187008
>>145184473
But they played Persona 4.
>>145183182
>liking SMTIV
Shit taste.
>>145190138
M-Muh OST
What are you currently playing, /smtg/? Post your progress.
>>145195484
Persona 3 Portable. In June.
>>145195643
How fitting. You should line it up so you play through a day every day.
>>145195484
Casual scum reporting in
I was playing Nocturne and finally met best girl; she kicked my ass though
>>145195484
Smt IV. Just beat Tenkai
>>145195484
Sands of Destruction
Currently in some toxic swamp fighting whats supposed to be the area boss
>>145195484
i blow whit ktm(mt1/mt2), smt1, smt2, smtIV, last bible, persona 1
>>145195484
I'm trying to get banned from all the casinos in New Vegas.
Only one more to go.
>First time playing an SMT game
>Strange Journey
>mfwCommander Gore is bursting with power
Welp, how thoroughly fucked am I now?
>>145197295
>not being Neutral
You brought this upon yourself, Anon.
>>145195484
Traumatized, even the same amount as you.
This list really needs an update though.
>>145197295
It's too late now. You gon get your ass whooped.
I'm basically at the end of Nocturne, but I haven't met any of the Riders yet
Am I missing something?
>>145200061
Did you go to the third Kalpa?
>>145200201
But that place sucks!
>>145200401
Fine, manchild. Enjoy not meeting the horsemen.
>>145195484
gotta finish my 3rd and 4th runs of SMTIV, then I'll beat Persona portable before SMTIV:Apocalypse comes out
>>145195484
I'm replaying Symphony of the night. This game is still beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYwS6481oQk
>>145202104
Nice to see another Castlevania fan, it's such an underrated series. I recently just finished replaying Aria of Sorrow myself.
>>145198735
It needs more tiers? Better memes or something?
>>145200557
Literally looks like someone smeered dirty choco on the walls m8
Makes me nauseous
>>145200061
fixed, now someone make the actual rom hack
>>145203975
Those Horsemen better be worth it
>>145202915
I'll probably start Order of ecclesia after I'm done with SOTN, haven't played that one yet.
>>145195484
>Multiple copies of the same game in there
Hahah, get the fuck out bitch-ass messiah
>>145195484
Gave up on trying to kill Lord of the Flies for now because of Dekaja spam on Nocturne, started DDS, 3/4 done with P4G, started P3FES
Will go hunting for any Megaten games on the DS come next week
>>145196020
The Harlot is kind of a bitch but only thing kicking your ass should be Trumpet man
>>145204192
OoE is pretty good
>>145207173
He was the easiest for me though
Harlot caught me off guard is all
>mfw i got raiho,
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
Don't die.
dia
SMT X ISIS
>>145216415
Hoy.
>>145216415
>censoring armpits
how long before NOA just has all women in burqas
Hoy
oo
y y
>>145216415
I can get covering up the big cleavage I guess, but the armpits as well? They're not even erotic unless you're a weirdo.
This is silly. I feel like they should have made it M rated.
>>145216415
What does this have to do with the gameplay anon?
>>145216415
Did they also cover up her thighs? I would fap to her thighs, they should do something about it.
>>145222984
>>145222907
>>145221819
>>145217801
>>145216415
>can't discuss the game
>but censorshitposting is fine
>>145223483
You can discuss the game. It's not out yet though.
>>145223653
We can't discuss it without tons of shitposting.
It's been out in Japan for ages.
>>145223720
To be fair it looks unimpressive through and through. The censorship aspect is probably the most interesting thing about it.
>>145225081
>To be fair it looks unimpressive through and through
I disagree.
>The censorship aspect is probably the most interesting thing about it.
I can't see how.
>>145225193
Maybe I just don't get the appeal. what do you like about it?
>>145225234
I like the gameplay, battle music and what I've seen of the dungeons.
SMT X Tekken
>>145226374
Already done, Persona 4 Arena
>>145227393
He said SMT.
>>145227446
It says SMT on Persona 4's box. Heck, I think it says SMT on Persona 4 Arena's box.
>>145227726
>I think it says SMT on Persona 4 Arena's box.
It actually doesn't.
>>145227393
he said tekken
>>145227813
I think he means the Persona 4 box.
>>145227726
No it doesn't.
>>145228060
Yeah it does, check the US box. They didn't put it on the Japanese version because it being part of SMT is implicit.
>>145228109
Japs aren't retarded they can understand a game like Persona, Digital Devil Saga and Tokyo Mirage Session are Megatens without it being on the box.
>>145228271
Exactly.
>>145215237
Wish i could kill this fucker.
don't die
die
>>145228271
>Tokyo Mirage Sessions
No
>>145225323
>I like the gameplay
aylmayo
>>145225323
The gameplay and OST is all mediocre. Literally Press Turn / Extra Turn / One More.
I'll give you the dungeons though
>>145127660
>http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n
BRO.
The Persona 1 mediafire links are broken. Can someone be amazing and put up ones that work, please?
>>145234220
Give me a Life Stone.
>>145234653
Here
What makes smt2 the best game in the series?
>>145235849
It has Cock, I mean, Hawk in it.
>>145235849
The best at being the most mediocre. SMT II is true neutral.
>>145234220
You mean the P1P with the music patch?
I will not crack
hello
I haven't been around here a long time.
Do everyone still love cocks? Is the translation of ...If finished?
>>145235849
Speaking of Smt2 I download a rom of it earlier today, but haven't gotten around to actually playing it yet. Is there anything special that's not already in the OP?
>>145241184
Yes.
No and it will never be.
>>145240687
>>145241184
No, yes.
>>145242482
>tfw no Jack Frost merchandise
About to start SMT 4
What am I in for?
Anything I need to know beforehand?
>>145246643
RNG.
Go full MAG.
Hoy.
>>145246643
Isabeau is cute.
>>145246643
dont listen to that guy
go full Dex
Charge + Desperate hit every boss
Easy game
>>145246643
A monkey will follow you around. Be sure to praise YHVH so you can get rid of said monkey.
>>145251471
She sure is
>>145246643
Neutral path has the most content, STR sucks, if you want to go physical go for DEX.
Luck and magic builds work too.
>>145233319
>>Tokyo Mirage Sessions
Yes.
>>145233972
>all mediocre
That's your opinion, It looks fast and fun.
>>145257785
>STR sucks
Is there any other Megaten where STR sucks (read: isn't the best)?
>>145243808
You could always make your own.
>>145261096
I'm not sure which is better in DDS, I only played with a magic Serph.
Magic is better in Persona 2 and 3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMuCaC4PGg
So im at the end, and i followed the neutral alignment guide, sadly i must have fucked up somewhere because i ended with the lawful ending. (mustve been a challenge quest)
If i pick "preserve the order" as per the guide i get the law ending jnstead of the neutral i want, but if i pick "destroy the order" i get the chaos ending.
So am i totally fucked? Or is there a way i can fix this? Like is there a chellenge quest i can do to skew things for neutral? Im guessing my alignment is -6 right now. Is there a quest i can do to help me here?
>>145270415
Have you done those Tokyo Dome quests yet? Those can shift your alignment.
>>145271675
I don't think i can. my save files are both at the end of the infernal world, right before i fight kenji. I don't think there is a way to do those quests. Unless i can do them in the infernal world
Alternatively, if somone can point me towards a save file editor, or even another save file which i can download and use so i can just see the neutral ending, those would be fine too
>>145271902
>my save files are both at the end of the infernal world, right before i fight kenji
You fucked up bad.
Shoulda made a save before the fight with Yamato Takeru.
>>145271991
Yeah i assumed everything was going to be fine since i was following the guide choice by choice. But i think i fucked up by doing a challenge quest i shouldn't and didn't realise until it was too late that it could affect the ending. I can't remember which quest it was too.
Finally, dude uploaded Anarchy route.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo6ZGCPIWvk
Hoy.
>>145273041
this fight must be really hard without ng+
>>145273041
It's depressing to see that FINAL has 2 endings only.
(Not counting the bad ones)
>>145276349
Its 1 too many
Game with multiple endings are always shit
>>145276525
>>145276525
>>145279915
Translation?
>>145275828
It's the only one unfortunately and I'm pretty sure it's easier, if you don't choose best girl. I've played through the game on hard and it really is not challenging at all.
>>145280279
Does Satan unlock on Peace route? Somehow I couldn't fuse him nor the faction leaders even before fighting YHVH.
>>145280503
Haven't fused Mercabah and stopped playing the game a while ago.
But I think he does unlock after his boss fight. Merc and Lucy for sure, looks like you didn't have the right demons.
Alignments themselves are not tired, but what is getting old is framing them as changing the entire world. A game with alignments that apply to a much smaller scale and are more personal like Raidou 2 would feel fresh.
>>145280634
Disregard my post. Just looked it up.
For Merc and Lucy you need to be on your second playthrough regardless of the route (which is a little bit retarded in my opinion, if you need to have played through it, at least make it their respective routes so that there's at least one good reason to choose them). For Satan you need to have played through one of the Neutrals.
>>145195484
>tfw you blow
>>145280781
>more personal
That's contrary to something I feel is integral to the atmosphere of mainline games.
how is debisama going? Any news on p2p?
ded general
Help me /smtg/. I want to get a few MegaTen related tattoos, aside from the obvious atma brands. Any ideas? Preferably non-characters.
>>145279963
>I'm the demonic beast "Doormath". Well then, nice to met ya.
>>145286410
What about a Demi-Fiend like pattern?
>>145286410
You know you want it.
>>145195484
Traumatized reporting in. I'm at the part where you have to fight 3 or 4 A-1s in Eternal Punishment and I don't have a proper healing Persona so I'm gonna have to grind for a ridiculous amount of time to tank through it.
NO DYING ALOUD
>>145289695
>>145289695
But we were dying quietly.
>>145291074
LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
SMT X Drakengard when
>>145293842
Is Drakengard any good? What's it like?
>>145293842
Never.
>>145294026
The combat is really repetitive but not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.
It's a really hit or miss game I guess.
>>145294280
I don't care about the gameplay anon. What are the themes, what's the tone, do characters suffer, etc.
>>145294486
It's a very moody tone that just gets worse and worse as you progress.
>do characters suffer
Kinda. Just go play it.
>>145294486
>I don't care about the gameplay anon.
Read a book or watch a movie.
Why does IMAGINE look like a complete mess?
>>145296612
It is.
>>145294674
>actually unironically being a gameplayfag
>>145298129
This shitty new meme you're trying to push isn't going to catch on
>>145298129
It's people like you who got rid of first person dungeons
Release date for Apocalypse fucking when.
And I don't want the placeholder date.
>>145298129
Why don't you go play some VNs instead?
>>145298886
September 20
>>145294486
>What are the themes
Incest, pedophilia, murder, cannibalism, necrophilia, murder.
>>145294674
>[MOVIE]'s strong suit is its story
>not its cinematography
Unacceptable.
>>145294486
>do characters suffer
Every single ending (except for the true ending) is a bad ending
>>145298950
>And I don't want the placeholder date.
>>145298974
The true ending is also a bad ending. It's directly responsible for NIER.
>>145298974
>except for the true ending
I'm assuming you mean ending E. That's a bad ending too.
don't die
Do you guys think they might talk about IV Final at E3?It's been boring as shit so far, fucking EA go away please.
>>145298668
I'll deal with this one because it's an actual criticism. While I feel that gameplay in a JRPG is largely a secondary element, and that first person dungeons aren't even as important a gameplay element for SMT as battle system, demon negotiations, or making sure the dungeons are a challenge whatever perspective you take in them, I've also argued that even secondary elements can be important to the overall experience. It's not because of me that you're not getting Strange Journey 2: With Press Turn This Time. It's because of a view of certain gameplay styles, including the relatively rudimentary first-person dungeon crawling of classic Megaten, as "archaic" or "irrelevant" at many developers, including Atlus.
As for others:
>>145298632
>>145298940
Yeah, THIS is you guys.
>>145301750
>certain gameplay styles, including the relatively rudimentary first-person dungeon crawling of classic Megaten, as "archaic" or "irrelevant"___________________________________________________________________________________________git gud_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>145301750
>While I feel that gameplay in a JRPG is largely a secondary element
Then watch the cutscenes, dude. Seriously gameplay should be the most important thing in a game because you're wasting hours on it.
> It's not because of me that you're not getting Strange Journey 2: With Press Turn This Time. It's because of a view of certain gameplay styles, including the relatively rudimentary first-person dungeon crawling of classic Megaten, as "archaic" or "irrelevant" at many developers, including Atlus.
Do you know how entertainment industry works? Developers look at what earns them the most money. "Gamers" nowadays are busy people who don't want to play the same game for a long time, they don't want challenge because that would take longer and makes them feel less powerful etc. Developers respond to that accordingly.
Would it be possible to do a fitness run of Soul Hackers using only demons bought through Nemechi with play coins? No streetpasses or hacks allowed, unless hard mode is possible (is it?).
>>145298964
Where was there necrophilia?
>>145302325
Just found out you can only earn 10 coins a day. What the fuck Nintendo.
How is Soul Hackers compared to mainline?
Is If... even good?
>>145302325
You could probably solo Soul Hackers, so yes
>>145302983
Does the difficulty up hack make it substantially more challenging? I mean on par KMT/Nocturne/SJ.
>>145298886
Get it off amazon.jp right now.
>>145302721
Just change your date whenever you hit the 10 coin limit :^)
>>145301523
It's only for EA and Bethesda, why would you care for those?
>>145302894
According to the two people who played if..., it's not very good.
>>145304045
Nothing better to do I guess.
