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>Official Stuff
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>>145349275
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>>145349379
Disgusting
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>>145346660
it isnt that hard desu
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Leave every game during team selection until you find a map you like, or the role you want to play is "available" so you aren't forced into support

It's kind of like browsing for a server
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Ass
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instalocking genji or hanzo should be a bannable offense. y/n?
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No words have actually been posted.
Off to a good start, /owg/.
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>want to main mercy
>win more games as Lucio
Damnit
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first for tracer is shit
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why is he so perfect?
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>>145349275
I really can't appreciate this anymore now that I've seen her hideous goblin face.
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Just when you thought you saw all kinds of shitters these small moments of pure turd come to surprise you.
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>>145349437
analwatch

my favorite kind of watch
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>>145349451
>DAE hate it when people pick characters in a game where you pick characters xD

downvoted
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>The noose tightens
What did he mean by this
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>>145349437
It's always an ass thread.
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How do I 'rocket jump' as zarya? Sometimes her alt fire sends me flying, other times it just makes me hop a bit. I don't know how to be consistent with it
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>>145349424
>refusing to support
cancer
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>>145349424
when I try that I end up in the same game 4 times
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>>145349275
>not posting her face.
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>>145349541
Not everyone wants to babysit you niggas I guess
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>>145349567
Fuck off with this 3DPD garbage.
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>>145349541
Mercy can't cure cancer :(
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>>145349424
I just don't want to play King of the Hill anymore. I'm tired of having to be Lucio or Winston so our team will have a chance and then losing 70% of the time anyway because of any of the following

>2/3rds of team is playing Jesse McCree's Bizarre Right-Click Adventure and failing horribly
>1/2 of team is playing Widowmaker's Point and Click Adventure
>1-2 players are intentionally trying to throw the game by suiciding so they can get thrown into low MMR

Most KOTH games I get tossed into are in progress with one loss already so they're practically guaranteed to count towards giving me a leaver penalty too.
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>>145349567
good lord that ass
but holy shit what the hell is up with her ugly bird face?
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>>145349567
Disgusting jew nose. Into the trash it goes.
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add me if you wanna play with someone thatll make you feel better about your skill level.
also if u qt

FioshNZ#1553
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>>145349567
why'd you do that
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>>145349567
>>145349379
Gross
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>>145349197

(Posted this last thread)

Yeah. Capturing a point should nullify all ult charge on Anubis/Hanamura/Volskaya.

Defenders should also get instant respawn for a short while after first point has been captured.

The current state of the game is that the attackers just rush B as fast as they can and pop all the ults they got from capturing A on top of B and winning instantly. It's fucking stupid, especially when you got teammates who ragequit every lost game and causing a server swap (yay, now I got a loss as a defender and I didn't even get to play attacker!)
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>>145349567
>>145349616
She's so ugly somebody punched her face to give her a broken nose.
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>I've got you in my sights.
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>It's high noon
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>[Robot Noise]
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>Nerf this
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>冻住,不许走!
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
> Ryuu ga waga teki wo kurau!
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>HAMMER DOWN
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>DIE DIE DIE
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>Justice rains from above
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
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>constant leaver's penalty
>having fun
oh no
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>>145349567

Went straight from high noon to hammer down.
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>>145349567
The fucking horror
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>>145349541
It's not "refusing", I'm not picking an offence class and saying "you go support", I'm just finding a different game you mong
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>>145349567
Dee?
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Well Widowmaker has officially made me lose interest in this game.

Hearing nothing from blizz since release yet is pretty disheartening .
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>>145349275
I hate twerking
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>>145349660
>>HAMMER DOWN
>O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
>implying you're not the one who's getting charged first
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>>145349614
I honestly have begun to leave as soon as I load into a koth map. It's such a fucking god awful game mode. It seems like almost every game I play, my team facerolls the enemy team, then in the second round the enemy team suddenly becomes a spec ops squad and destroys us two games in a row. I'd say maybe one in five koth games I play are legitimate back-and-forths. It's just steamrolls over and over. Attackers need faster spawns or something, because defending seems to be so fucking easy in this game and the team that gets the first cap almost always holds it for 100% at high mmr.
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>tfw I really enjoy playing Symmetra

I don't know what it is exactly. Is it the joy of watching someone panic while you melt them or that moment when some poor guy gets fucked up by your turrets? I dunno.
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>>145349741
>crying because you can't handle widowmaker
nothing of value lost.
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>>145349712
>level 55

i think i dont have enough skins
just bought night ops and got the pocahontas skin for phara
sadly i got legendary for torbjorn and winston, but i never play them
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>>145349741
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>voting for a Mercy when a Widowmaker has 75% accuracy
>voting for a Mercy when a Lucio gets 30 eliminations
>le always upboat Mercy meme

Please tell me you people don't do this.
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>>145349741
Jump around more.
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>>145349820
>that symmetra pose

i will never understand indian culture
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Fuck Roadhog and his bullshit time&space-bending hook and the fucking damage on his shots, holy shit

I shouldn't get fucking pulled through pillars or the goddam payload you fucking obese turbonigger
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>>145349847
>voting at all

What's the fucking point? It doesn't do anything.
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>>145349275
>can dash backwards/sideways as tracer

my only question now is if you can dash diagonally
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>>145349820
>all of asymmetrs poses, emote and intros are shit
>tfw
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>>145349847
How else are we going to convince people to play mercy more?
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>15 Fan the Hammer Kills
>21 Eliminations

post yfw all these faggots are gone soon
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>>145349847
>someone goes out of his way to bother playing support
>manages to provide both healing and damage boost
>has presence where its needed

i will always upvote the fucking mercy/lucio/zen
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>earn 4 gold medals as DVa in a complete stomp on Hanamura attack
>map changes to Gibraltar against the same team
>they all go DVa while I play Mercy for my friends
>they manage to push the cart to victory by playing DVa like Bastion
I can still hear their guns thumping
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>>145349890
It's a show of appreciation, anon. Appreciation is like magic.
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>>145349896
yes, 8 directions
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>>145349834
>What they need to do
Decrease her charge rate by a ton, make headshots do a ton more damage though so it's actually rewarding to go for them.
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>>145349929
>tfw using McCree only with M1 and my general aim has improved a fuckton
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>>145349929
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>>145349941
You say this like Blizzard intentionally designed Mercy, Lucio, and Zen to be lame and not fun to play. I have a blast whenever I play any of them.
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>>145349997
sleep tight reaper
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>>145349776
is mei a cannibal?
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>>145349993
Absolutely agree
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>>145349997
sleep tight reaper
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>mystery heroes mode
>Hey, let's all go Tracer for the keks, it doesn't matter, we'll get another character once the match starts
>a few moments later

chuuz laff, the cava lizzee!
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>>145349997
________ sleep tight reaper ________
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>>145349941
Don't forget, everyone loves to get resurrected.
>>145350036
Same. Except I really dislike zens lack of mobility.
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>>145349820
I wish there was a skin for Rein that both showed his face AND had fancy armour. Because that junglecamowhatever is so lame.

This game could use better skins overall, actually. Very few make any sense, even fewer are stylish.

Somehow HotS gets all the cool skins!
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I'm starting to think that Reinhardt is as broken as McCree. Pubs just can't figure out how to click on the shield to make it away so he ends up being the impenetrable wall.
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>>145349997
fuck off, why do people actually reply to these things
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>>145349961
Appreciation for what? Playing a video game?
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>>145349929
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>>145350108
True. Thinking of Zen they should really nerf his discord orb to 35%, buff his health and make him move a little faster.
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>its another junkrat presses Q to wheel his way to POTG

fucking epic

why is POTG a thing again?
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>>145350138
sleep tight reaper
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>people on /owg/ still haven't realized how insane Symmetra is on defense

Her M1 can get up to like 100 dps and it just fucking melts anyone. She shits on genjis hardcore and can melt tanks. Stop trying to set up a billion sentries in a single room for ebin microwaves, any aoe will just kill them all instantly and people will just avoid that room, use them as FUCKING SENTRIES, they tell you where enemies are coming from and slow them down, put one or two in places where people will try to flank from or retreat towards.
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>>145350158
>mercy_revives_the_team.jpg
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I found that best character on attack to capture points is... lucio. You just breeze past all enemy defences, on some maps on routes they cant even see you and then jump into the capture point - half times enemy team is mile away trying to stop your team in advance, so you have couple seconds until they realize someone is capturing the point - other times just activate speed boost and run around the point and walls like crazy with them unable to target you and capturing ticking.

Litterally forces enemy team to withdraw to the capture point and look out for you.
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I LOVE THIS PICTURE
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>>145349515

Are you trying to launch yourself in the air with it?

I do it by launching into the air, firing the blast at an angle to give me some diagonal lift and then using hover. It gives a lot of horizontal distance, but it's pretty tricky, I'm not consistently good at it.

But yeah, you have to be in midair and use your hover to carry on the momentum of the blast.
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>>145349776
Mei kitty a cute
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Do you get connected to the voice channel by default or does that option is turned off at beginning ? Don't want to turn my options to default to check. Need to make sure that the numbers below "my team" can be a sure way to tell the numbers of people in a premade.
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>>145350169
To trigger fags like you who's team cannot shoot the RIP-tire.
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>>145350176
>play symmetra
>everyone is all over my shit and trying to take out my portal
>play against a symmetra
>nobody on my team bothers looking for the portal
I really wish I was a better symmetra
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best emote drop :^)
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>>145350169
Hey man, they can be alright
>manage to steal PotG from the pharah that got a quad kill early on in Hollywood defence by rezzing a reaper in at the last second to ult on the payload
>the camera just shows me eating 3 ults at the same time to get one rez
>get all of the upboats
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>>145349929
>you still rekt people after nerf
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>>145350230
I said zarya, not pharah
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>>145350230
how do I hover as the lesbian tho
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>>145350202
>>I found that best character on attack to capture points is... lucio

>point capture
>koth
>stay in the capture area and autistically jump the walls

S K I L L
K
I
L
L
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>>145350224

Her piercings are on the wrong ear.
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i really want to see a pig butcher farmer guy for roadhog
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>>145350293
>Lucio
>4 gold medals
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>>145349847
>voting for Widowmaker, ever
>lucio "eliminations" merely means last shot on targets on low hp and occasional dropping enemies of the edges
Meanwhile Mercy and your Tank were the only people that advanced the match.
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>just lost a game to two pro Widows
>nobody on the team either could or would do anything about them including me
>just got double tapped every time we tried walking around
>suicide bomb one of them and oh right, they have four other teammates, turns out, just in case

I'm just sad. I'm not even full of rage or anything. I just feel sad that I've wasted my life playing this dogshit game and I want to uninstall and go get another hobby.
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>>145349929
Follow a McTeammember, because we are losing anyway: All he does is camp a corner, and hope someone appears infront of him to get flashbanged. Berate him.
>b-but that's how you play mccree!!
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>>145350316
huh you're right
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>>145350176
Any Genji getting melted by a Symmetra M1 is just bad, anon.

Also, speaking of Symmetra when are they changing her shitty shield?
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>Lucio gets almost as much healing done as Mercy
>can speed boost the cart
>can almost instantly get the team back into the fight after you all die
I can't stop playing him now but I hope he gets a nerf.
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>>145349917
her intro where she makes the hard light diamond close up is pretty good
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>>145349993
Really all they need to do is reduce scoped fire rate so that they actually have to make their shot count.

Also reducing the hitboxes would be good so getting a headshot actually took skill.
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Just let it happen
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>fight 5 torbjorns and a bastion on volskaya industries
>they let us cap first easy and just endlessly shit out turrets onto the moving platforms
>they win even with us counter picking because they have armor packs fucking everywhere and build faster than we could knock them down
>nobody says anything until the last second
>"bg"
>their entire teams starts memeing at us
So how about those class limits on builders?
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>want to play attack class
>every match no one picks nor tank nor healing so if we want chance to win i am forced to play support/tank
Meanwhile our attackers suck, so i have half way to switch to junkrat/soldier/farra to clear the choke points that those retards keep dieing at.
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>>145350442
AY O LES DROP DE BASS
O LES PUMP IT UPP
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Anybody else getting upsettingly bad lag?
It's all fine, 0 problems until I get just past character selection.
Game lags like fuck for a good 10 seconds then boots me off the server.
I've run speed tests and tried other multiplayer games and I'm having no problems.

Anyone else at least?
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>>145350442
>but I hope he gets a nerf.
his passive healing is pretty mediocre and his boost has a high cooldown

i think what makes him so good is the fact that its fucking impossible to hit him also soundbarrier is just too good for everything
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>>145350384
>lucio "eliminations" merely means last shot on targets
You don't even need to last shot them. Just shoot them one time before they die.
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>>145350448
I disagree, her fire rate isn't the problem it's how fast her charge rate charges.
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Mei should be removed from the game
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>>145350138
Because I've had lifelong insomnia and am desperate for anything that might help. Anything.
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>>145350530
(you)
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>>145350224
>>145350316
>>145350424
Easyfix
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>>145350529
>her fire rate isn't the problem
Her fire rate lets her take down Pharah without even trying, it is a problem.
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>>145349515
you have to hit yourself on the way up, not at the arc
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>>145350138
>why do people actually reply to these things
remember those chain messages that said
>if you dont send this to 5 other persons you will never get a girlfriend
thats why you are single anon, thats why you get no puss
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>>145350487
>The image of him just following you without you being able to do anything
god damn that's fucking scary
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>>145350529
aren't basic bodyshots like 100 damage though?
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>>145350428
>she counters genji
>BUT MUH 1v1 IN AN OPEN AREA

Genji has the third worst playerbase after all.
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>>145350442
I feel like he is one of the most balanced characters right now. Also, Widow.
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>>145350316
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>>145350529
its everything
her everything is the problem
just tweaking one aspect wont do anything, just like dropping 120 damage off mccrees fan wont do anything about his lack of counters
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>>145350487
How does me move so quickly side to side? Doesn't he slow down when changing direction?
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>>145350176
>Her M1 can get up to like 100 dps and it just fucking melts anyone.
Needs 3 seconds to charge. She dies in one headshot or one second of dps on her. Most tanks she supposed to melt, would one hit her too.

Sentries spread apart are entirely useless if enemy team has lucio. You know where the people are comming form anyway, its no rocket science.

She`s great because of her teleport, the problem with her centries that they are TOO visible and even highlighted to enemy - meanwhile sometimes you cant even spot trojborn turret shooting on you from mile away.
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>>145350627
150 while charged. Pharah has 200 HP if I'm not mistaken, so really you just need to hit one charged bodyshot and then you can practically kill her by sneezing on her.
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>>145350293
Lucio is good on every single map.
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>>145350641
From what I've seen he has one of the highest win rates.
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>>145350589
Without the charge rate going to 100% in 5 seconds doing 50 damage a shot would be easy as fuck to escape from.
>>145350627
No, fully charged body shots are 150.
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>>145350176
My favorite is setting up turrets near health pickups close to the objective. Gets them every time because they are too busy being scared of getting jumped on they never see the little ball.
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>>145350645
Beat Ya to it love
>>145350569
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>>145350663
>hold W
>quickly tap a and d back and forth
>clientside lag prediction spazzes out
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>be level 41
>put into a game against 4 people that are all 70+ and have the star underneath their picture
>my team are all below level 50

Does overwatch even have matchmaking?
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>Bastion covered by widowmaker
well that sucked ass
At least I was playing reaper so I could kill the bastion before widow fucked me
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Proposed buff to Pharah

20 more direct hit damage
20% splash radius increase
50 extra health as armor, or replace 50 health with armor
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>>145350681
>tanks
>one hit
>200 hp

Ok anon. Whatever you say.
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>>145350530
Best waifu
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>>145350721
>5 seconds
i meant 1.5 seconds because that's how long it takes now.
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>>145350775
Replacing 50 health with armor would kinda be a nerf DESU
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>>145350775
Pharah is already OP and annoying as is, why would you need a fucking buff?
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Oh god, please send help.
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>wallhacks
>uncontested at medium and long range
>really good mobility
>solid 1v1 close quarters because lol SMG + poison mine
>can 1 shot certain classes in the body
>super high fire rate and big magazine so if youre shit you can just keep left clicking until you hit
>super fast charge rate
>average HP pool

where's her weakness? She's got mobility, dominates certain ranges and is still solid up close. Even her "counters" are unreliable. Winston has to jump on her so his jump is on CD and she hooks away, not to mention her damage threatens him. Genji will just lose 1v1 unless he totally outplays her because poison mine + assault rifle damage is huge.

Even McFuck in his overpowering damage has weaknesses. He has basically no mobility unlike competing offensive classes, so if he gets caught without backup or a little bit too far from cover he's totally dead.
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>>145350775

>how to turn a good character into an OP character

good job
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>tfw 60+% winrate because I quit from guaranteed stomp games, one way or another
>tfw no face
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>>145350775
>replace 50 health with armor
every thing you posted but that is idiotic
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FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT FAT
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>>145349997
Sleep tight reaper
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>>145350830
People complain she's OP, people complain she's shit, people complain she's absolutely useless...

I don't know what any of the characters are anymore.
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>>145350831
cmon dude, you just gotta

B R E A K I T D O W N
R
E
A
K
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god fucking damn I hate KOTH

ESPECIALLY on Ilos
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>>145350831
Last game was a genji, 2 widows, 2 hanzos, and me on Lucio
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>>145350839
>>145350830
>Pharah
>Good
Literally the worst offense character. You need high skill to land direct hits every time in order to do damage, and other characters do more damage
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>>145350853
Not a real winrate.
pretty sure everyone would have a high winrate if they left every game they were about to lose
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>>145350836
She's kind of easy to take out with d.va
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>tfw this game is dividing my group of online buddies because half of us want to win and are willing to switch if team comp is shit and the other half instalocks into their favorite characters
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>>145350916
>not doing well as Pharah
How bad can you be?
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>get put into a losing game with 50 secs still on the clock
>get 2 random lucky kills
>gold medal for eliminations
Holy fuck. Why?
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>>145350775
All she really needs is just some extra health or armor since she's by far the easiest target in the offense category, especially for direct damage like 76 or Widow. Damage is fine.
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>>145350112
>that both showed his face AND had fancy armour.

Two of his legendaries do that.
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>>145350775
>>145350916
>>Proposed buff to Pharah
>buff
>already two shoting other heroes
>buffs
>>You need high skill to land direct hits
>>other characters do more damage
eh
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>>145350916
then git gud faggot cause im carrying shitters with pharah left and right
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>defense numbani with some mccree shitter who lost us the game by refusing to contest the end point in overtime
>ask him why
>"because i'd die you retard, i'm not bad like you"
>get him again in the next game
>play mercy and refuse to give him heals
>keeps pinging for them
>no heals for jerks
>heal the full-health allies around him so he can watch himself be ignored
>he's getting upset
>"THIS MERCY IS GARBAGE"
>team doesn't care because they're getting heals
>tell him i'm clearly "too bad" and "retarded" to heal him
>gets flustered and ragequits
>we win

Being a petty bitch is fun.
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>>145350892
>>145350830
I think she's pretty well balanced. Soldier and widow can take her out of the sky easy.
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>>145350934
I dont see DVA killing a good widow. You fly to her with your shield up so you dont take any damage. you start attacking her. She hooks away and your shots do like 1 damage past short range. You can only kill one who is really out of position.
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I never knew torb had a shotgun blast altfire on his rivet gun. I always just tried to headshot with m1.

This changes things.
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>>145350916
how to spot a shitter

talking about damage
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>>145350948
Did you completely miss his points?
Even if you do well as Pharah, you'll still be useless as fuck.
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>>145350839
>good character
Any Soldier 76, McCree, Widow or even a Bastion that knows how to move and shoot at the same time will completely and effortlessly shut down a Pharah to the point where her only option is to just change character.
>>
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why cant i turn off the tips?
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>>145349993

Max damage on widowmaker sniping shot is 125 (like Hanzo).

A sniping shot bullets costs 30 ammunition. If you try to scope with less than 30 ammo she'll reload first (this puts a dampener on her absurd ttk and punishes Widow for failed flickshots on close range attackers).

SMG has damage falloff. Widowmaker has 25 less HP (to compensate for her smaller than average hitbox).

Wallhacks are conceptually reworked so enemies can now always tell they are being wallhacked. In return Hanzo get a lower CD on his wallhack arrow.

There, I fucking fixed Widowmaker while keeping the fun stuff like grapple hook skillshots.
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>>145351010
>he can't contest points as Pharah and do well
How bad do you have to be?
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>>145350897
I wish I could blacklist maps. Tower is the only koth map I like.
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Top 5 time played
>Rein
>Lucio
>Junkrat
>Torb
>Zenyatta

How /owg/ am I?
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>>145349997
sleep tight reaper
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>>145350935
>my buddies have fun by winning
Oh baby. I like to screw with them by playing Genji from time to time.
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>>145350935
This is the worst part of playing Overwatch.

"We don't need two Hanzo's, can one of you switch?"
"We're just having fun dude, don't worry about it."

I just want to win sometimes, you guys.
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>>145350934
>>145350998
d.va isnt a killer, shes a disruptor and annoying piece of shit that outright negates ults with defense matrix, you are supposed to shove widows off their ledge the same way you are supposed to scare away the supports by running at them like a train

just play winston if you need to kill widow/genji/s76/mercy
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>>145349776
Roadmog a cute
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>>145350998
Them you just boost at her again since that boost cooldown is low as hell. At least you can get her out of position of awhile so she doesn't keep popping off your team.
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>>145349997
"deep sleep lil reap" was better.
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>>145350775
no
maybe, im sorta eh on it unless they actually give them the kb necessary to juggle, cornershots dont matter in this game all that much and thats the only time splash radius ever should matter
150 health 75 armor is probably the ideal sweetspot, anything more is too much and anything less is basically nothing

they SHOULD drop her e c/d to like 8s though since its a multitool that she can basically never use due to how punishing it is to have it on c/d in panic situations
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>>145351080
If you don't have Mercy as your #1, then you're not certified /owg/.
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>>145350916
>>145350775
>>145350892

You guys should watch some Talespin Pharah
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>>145351049
Nope, headshots need to be buffed, either way you look at it.
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>>145351051
Look, just because the low MMR-shitters let you fly around like a retard, without shooting you down the instant you think about touching your LSHFT, doesn't mean she's actually good.

Pharah needs a buff, and this comes from a guy who likes Pharah a ton.
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The Widowmaker nerf needs to happen yesterday. I'm so sick of smug faggot players who think they're C9 material because they're killing people with a semi automatic AWP.
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>>145349997
>not reap tight reaper

one job.
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>>145351147
Yeah I agree, it's a good harassment tool. Maybe after the D.Va buff she'll be a good answer. Widow still has a stupid "no flaws" design though.
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>>145351131
She can still deal some good damage when you're in someones face.
>>145351130
Hopefully competitive mode will fix this.
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>>145351051
It's basically 100% phara players false flagging to make Phara seem useless so they beg for buffs. There are a lot of people who think "x character is really underpowered!" and in most cases (baring like Zenyatta) they're wrong.
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>>145351185
>he doesn't know how to play to Pharah's strengths and ambush from the sky properly
How bad is it possible for you to be?
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>>145351157
This. The only thing Pharah needs is her health pool reworked to be a little tankier and her ridiculously long cooldowns reduced so she can actually use them.
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>>145351182

Why would headshots need to be buffed exactly? Because you can't oneshot Winston when he goes on you?

Lowering Widow's base damage to 25 only really affects how Symmetra's shields works in the game (so Symmetra becomes a good pick against Widow). Besides that Widow's headshot parameters stay basically the same.
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>>145349997
Can we not post this every fucking thread? It's facebook-tier garbage and it fills up the threads with useless replies.
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So are you supposed to sit at midrange as Zarya and just spam grenades? I've been trying to play her like a TF2 Heavy somewhat and I've been getting my ass raped.
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>>145350990
>sabotage game for 4 other players cuz of "muh feelings"
Neck yourself.
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How the fuck do junkrat players do it
I'm still in shitter levels and half the junkrats pull off all this crazy shit with their mines and blow me back into my own d.va ult and shit out tons of damage from behind cover

How do they do this shit, maybe it's not that impressive but on the other end of it it SEEMS pretty crazy
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>>145349660
>It's high noon
>O LETS BREAK IT DOWN
High Noon has like 8 seconds on it. Sound Barrier barely lasts like 3 seconds. That skull marker doesn't need to turn red to indicate a kill.
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>>145351248
Only reason Pharah "isn't good" now is because of how much Widow dominates everything.
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>>145351168
what did he expect to happen?
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>>145350824
How so? Are you confusing Toblerone's armor drops with regular armor?
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>>145351276
Yes, a fully charged headshot does take some skill to pull off and it deserves to be a one shot kill on almost everything.
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>>145351337
:D
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>>145351294
>sabotage the other players by healing them over a shit McCree
???
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>>145351308
That's pretty much what I was going for. Once windowlicker gets the boot Phara will be a power pick, but if Phara gets buffed she's going to be hyper obnoxious once windowmaker gets her nerfs. Phara and Junkrat always need to be balanced in regards to each other, or else once is going to become the shitty version of the other.
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Am I cool or cancer?
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>>145351051
I hate playing against pharah and everything about the hero in general, but I think she's weak and needs buffs
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>>145351337
>a fully charged headshot does take some skill to pull off
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>>145351345
you know the sniper in tf2 right?
Not lots of mobility has an smg and his sniper fully charged on headshot is a 1 shot kill to ever class.
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>>145350092
If you didn't realise it already, there's a bug with Random Brawl, where if a team picks mostly the same hero, there's a good chance they will get that hero to start.

This is how you go out and roll an enemy team with 5-6 Winstons.
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>>145351185

So you are living proof that time invested doesn't cause skill.

Good for you.

Pharah is completely fine. She's powerful enough that she forces direct counterpicks or else she runs away with the game. Her only "problem" is that two of her best countepicks are currently in the S tier category of heroes.
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>>145350797
Evil grin before she goes for the kill. She'd cut your dick off in your sleep mate.
>>145350775
Proposed buff to Widowmaker
Give her soldier 76 ult
Triple her fire rate
might as well
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>>145351337
Ebin.
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>>145351295
The trick is they die really fucking fast as soon as anyone decides it's time for them to die, so they have to be quick on the mine-jumping away. If they can be anywhere spamming grenades where nobody can really focus them though, it's hooley all dooley.
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>>145351369
>3 hours of dead weight
>any number of hours on widow
cancer
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>>145350487
>WAAAAAAAAH NERF WIDOWMAKER
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>>145351412
>Her only "problem" is that two of her best countepicks are currently in the S tier category of heroes.
yeah such a small problem that every game has widow which renders her useless

why did you use the quotes there again, it's a huge problem you retard
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>>145351337
xD
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>>145351396
but his sniper doesn't charge in like 1 fucking second
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>>145351337

topkek
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>>145351434
d.va is super fun though.
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>>145351295
It just flows

t. trashmouse main
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>>145351369
>Am I cool or cancer?
no you are the standard overwatch player thats around 20 years old and masturbates to r34, so basically the group blizzard wanted to appeal to
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>>145351130
It's frustrating as shit

everyone should have a pool of characters that they're comfortable playing

tonight we were playing a full pre-made or close to it and just getting wrecked and the other team had two torbs that were constantly getting ults up and one of my friend's literally plays genji 8 out of every 10 matches and was confused as to why we were doing terrible

I tried explaining to him that torb is a pretty big hard counter to genji but he said he didn't know how to play anyone else so he wouldn't switch

It's infuriating when this happens but really fun when everyone is on the same page and open to changing the dynamic of the team if shit isn't working
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>>145351369
you're a cuck
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>>145351375
Pharah's only as weak as the person playing her.
She's probably one of the more balanced characters right now, but characters like Widow need a soft nerf on damage.

Also there needs to be something in place to discourage stacking characters on a team.

Not a hard limit because shitters would bitch about that a lot, but maybe something like the more of one character there is, the less XP those players earn or something superficial like that.

Also I feel Torb's turret needs a slower turning speed but that's just because I'm used to the sentries from tf2.
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Does anyone have a webm of Zarya's flex intro, or any Zarya flexing goodness?
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>need to get on final point to contest
>our mei blocks the way back in
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>>145351380
Obviously not in this game because fully charge comes so fast but if it was slower it should be, quick scoping headshots are still the best though.
>>145351467
I said in my original post that the charge needs to be slowed what the fuck? Look>>145349993
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>Playing Zen
>Theres' always one faggot playing Widow and ruining my fun
>Counter pick Widow because ours was useless and couldn't hit shit
>Enemy WM starts to cry immediately about counter sniping and even throws hackusations at me

I truly hate snipers and sniping no matter how much better I could perform with them. They are the true cancer upon multiplayer games.
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>>145351396
His sniper doesn't charge in one second.
He doesn't have a mine to leave behind him to watch for flanks
He doesn't have a grappling hook that allows him to escape and reach unreachable for normal character parts of the map.
He also doesn't receive a near permanent wall hack that allows for the easiest kills someone could ever have handed to them
They aren't even simalir, stop talking out of your ass
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>>145351505
>around 20 years old and masturbates to r34
Well you got me.
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>>145351457

Because it's not a "problem" of Pharah's character. The problem is that in the metagame of picks, McCree and Widow plain too strong, meaning you can't make an ecology for Pharah by addressing her character.

You have to nerf McCree and Widow. If they become more situational, Pharah becomes less situational.

Hell, watch envyus on gosugamer's weekly and Talespin will show you what Pharah looks like in the hands of someone with actual aim and understanding of how to use her mobility.
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>>145350897
Ilios is a fun map, and it has decent variation so it's not just the same tedious siege over and over again. Huge crate, open arena pit, open side arena. Ilios is actually my favourite of the three KOTH maps.

>>145351062
FUCK YOU MAN, LIJIANG TOWER NEEDS TO BE DELETED
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>>145351321
I like to think he misclicked and had to watch the animation carry him to death, fully aware of his impending doom. That or DIEDIEDIE.
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>>145351505
>16 hours of being useless
I feel bad for whatever teams you were on
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>>145351593
I suggested her charge should be way slower, cunt.
>He doesn't have a mine
The only person who's going to flank in tf2 is the spy.
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>>145351510
Torb is mostly fine as is. His turrets basically exist to help counter certain flankers but will just melted by people like Junkrat and Phara or anyone with DPS shooting them..
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>>145349997
Sleep tight reaper
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>>145351616
You can say the same about Zen and how he's ridiculously strong in the hands of anyone who can aim but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve buffs.
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>>145351650
>The only person who's going to flank in tf2 is the spy.
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you know, the fact that D.va still plays SC2 competively is so sad that you can shed a tear. the game is so dead that even big tournaments cant pull more viewers than lirik or NB3 or even trick2g.

what a shame. how sad it must be to be a pro player for a dead as shit game, especially when you know its dead.
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>>145351642
Don't bully d.va
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>>145351519
>enemy reinhard is last thing standing between us and victory
>he has literally 25 health left mei walls in front of him
>he gets time to set up his ult and kill us all

Thanks mei.
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>>145351642
where did d.va's mecha touch you
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>>145351672
Sure, when there's 1 or 2 torbjorns on a team, it's fine, but 4+ torbs is a fucking nightmare. Especially on Volskaya.
>every moving platform has a turret on it and there's still more in the halls around the back
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>>145351650
Pack it up boys, we're dealing with a retard
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>>145350990
>Zarya our only defence hero on the front line in a choke point
>tanking all the shots
>my healing stream is the only thing preventing them from pushing through and killing out otherwise squishy team
>can't switch or we'll die
>mccree spans "heal me" while shooting me in the face
>healthpack 4 metres to the left
>"heal me you worthless faggot!"
>I don't
>we win
>end of game cards
>5 votes Mercy, 1 vote mccree
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