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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
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>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
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>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
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>Beasthood & Claws Info
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>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>>144801395
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Reposting: I HATE Rom, anyone want to help? I will give you bolt paper.
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Labyrinth Madmen are fucking terrifying.
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Steak Driver.
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>>144946572
>They call me John Henry
>The STAKE DRIVIN' MAN
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>ywn own this
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I just stepped into Ailing Loran for the first time and I think I'm in love

Now this is dungeon crawling
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>>144946318
I would but my PS+ ran out, and I don't plan on renewing it until they start having good PS+ games again.

The trick to Rom though is to kill all the little spiders first, while she is not-aggro, then do as much damage as you can all at once. Pop a beast blood pellet, fire paper, regen all your stamina, toss an oil urn, then go to town. Keep attacking even as she fades away.

From then on, just close in on her without locking on, and just wait for the little spiders to leave an opening, then rush in, hit her once or twice, then get out.

Protip: Chalice Rom doesn't take massively reduce damage for hitting her in the face like Story Rom.
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>>144946318
Ok I killed Rom but died at the same time, where are my blood echoes?
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>>144946759
Isz Chalice is probably my favorite game experience ever. Though, I usually get shitty bosses.
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>>144946802
If you go back to Hunter's Dream, you can warp back to Moonside Lake where you fought Rom (A lamp automatically got lit). Odds are they'll be there somewhere.
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Thrust seems OP in PVE. What are some good thrust weapons? Saw Spear is nice but kinda slow and awkward (tricked R2).
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>>144946802
AAAAHOOOO, OOOOOOOH!
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>>144947201

I really enjoy the reiterpallasch but I'm sure there are much better ones out there

Church pick maybe? I tried it out and its damage output seemed a little lower than the reiterpallasch but it hits like a truck and can pancake things and even stagger things that really have no business being staggered
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>>144946527

Anything that runs faster than it should is
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>>144946527
Those are the "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend" enemies, right?
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Anyone wanna help an ayy out with Maria? I'm pretty low level with bad gems but I'm so committed to the DLC at this point I just want to beat her so I can get my bolt gems. Augur spam against her is not nearly as reliable as I was led to believe and I've run out of beast pellets.

BL50, password is bbg
Ringing outside the boss fog.
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>>144950116

At this ungodly hour?
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>>144950487
Just got off work not long ago. I know it's late as fuck but I figured I'd see if I get any bites anyways.
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>>144947201
Church Pick is THE thrust weapon. Its entire tricked moveset is thrust.
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>>144950116
okay it's clearly far too late to be asking this.
I'm going to stop ringing.
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Could anyone please assist me with the undead giant in lower pthumeria?
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We back now?
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>>144950116
black eyesky and the gloves were a great help for her and orphan
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>the eyes on the Mensis pigs all have collapsed pupils

Nice touch
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What is the best single piece of clothing in the game and why is it the Crowfeather Garb?
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>>144956452
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>>144956452
My personal fav.
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>fighting lower pthumeria layer 3 rom
>doing well
>1/3rd left
>WEAPON IS AT RISK

God damn I am not used to weapons not being restored by touching lamps.

Fucking DaS3.
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>>144959918
Durability is so pointless, I don't know why they keep including it in every game
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Ahh...
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>>144961056
Kos...
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>>144963649
Or,
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>>144956890
It looks 10/10 on females too, which most outfits don't.
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>>144963960
Some
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How do defiled chalices work?

Can i access pre-made defiled dungeons as soon as I get the chalice, or do I need to make one myself first?
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About how long does it take to clear all the chalice dungeons?

I've done everything else, and at this point I just wanna do it for completion's sake
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>>144964236
Say
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>>144964454
msoK
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>>144964372
Not too long desu senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
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>>144964340
If you mean FRC dungeons, you gotta make one yourself and then you can create other people's dungeons by searching their glyphs.
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I have the flu and have been able to take the week off, so been playing a lot of Bloodborne and it's all becoming one big fever dream. I've dreamed about it and when I'm not hugging my toilet I'm playing it

Wherever I go I hear the Hunters Dream theme I'm for sure getting some Insight after this.
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>>144964969
Ah right, thanks mate.

Why the fuck From gave LHB a fucking radial slot as standard I do not know.
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>>144965174
Probably for Arcane builds to turn it to fire or bolt.
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Are the Gems like Dark Souls, where fire and bolt weapons won't scale at all, and arcane gems make it scale with your arcane stat? Only ask, I just know that putting some gems in my LHB make it hit a lot harder.
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>>144965767
Elemental gems, fire/bolt/arc, convert your weapon damage and scale with arcane
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>>144965767
Fire and bolt gems scale with the Arcane stat as long as they aren't flat damage.
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>>144946712
I have the edition with the Lady Maria cover (imported from China), but it doesn't include soundtrack and book.
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Alright /bbg/, I've done my basic Ludwig's scrub-tier first playthrough build
What do I do next?
Arcane?
Skill?
Gimme ideas
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>>144966258
Whatever is fine.
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>>144966258
50 Blt or 99 Arc
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>>144965174
I understand this, but it's mainly a quality weapon; it should be given a triangle slot and uncanny should have the radial.
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>>144966258
W H E E L
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>>144966258
Was there a weapon you liked the look of while playing through?
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>>144966258
99 Endurance
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post the hardest chalice dungeons you've found/made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHE8D7KkSug
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>>144969556
Any dungeon with Witch of Hemwick in it.
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Okay, how hard is NG+++

?
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>>144969957
NG+ and NG++ are nothing, NG+++ is when the difficulty starts to spike.
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Does anyone have an updated version of this? I remember seeing a different kind of rolltable but I never saved it

Also rolling for random fun build for chalice cooping
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>>144970978
>wheel
>executioner
>drop a coin after every kill
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>>144969012
Sorry, I've already copyrighted that meme build.
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>>144970978
rolling
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How viable is a high bloodtinge or high arcane build?

It seems like you have to get a good way into the game to get a weapon that uses either, and guns don't seem to do enough damage to hold you over (though this could be because I never put a whole ton of points into BT)

Is it something where I should invest in strength or skill at first then start pumping the other stat later?
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>>144973306
Both are fun and perfectly viable, but boring to build.
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>>144973306
If you wanna go pure blt or arc, upgrade Strength and Skill to meet the base requirements to hold the weapons of each build. Arc doesn't really need any Skl or Str, but upgrading them gives you more weapon options.
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>>144956452
Tomb Prospector Garb for dat collar
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>>144974384
Tomb Prospector Trousers for dem heels
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>>144973306
Arcane gets real fun later on, once you have ayylmao, MLGS, some high level gems and all the hunter tools to play with. It's pretty boring in the early game where all you can do is dump Vit and try for a whopping 7% fire gem or some shit.

Never tried pure Bloodtinge. I assume it's pretty boring since you only get two melee weapons to pick from, and I hate the constant HP drain on Chikage. Can anyone who has done a pure Bloodtinge build fill me in? Do you end up doing more damage with gun/bow than melee? Do you git gud at the snake whistle? Or do you just trick your Chikage/Blootletter and mash R1 like it's a quality build?
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These chalice dungeons are uh
I mean maybe it's because I'm doing them so late in the game but
These are just boring as shit
The bosses would probably be cool but again, I'm like level 70
But I think even if I were an appropriate level this would still be exhaustingly samey

I wish these were just a boss rush mode instead
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>>144974768
>These are just boring as shit

This was my mistake the first time I played.

I didn't attempt them AT ALL until NG+ and it was unbearable.

When I did them as I progressed through the game normally it ended up being a ton of fun.
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>>144974638
My mann
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>>144974768
They get a bit more interesting once you get to Loran and Isz but yeah they're notoriously boring in Pthumeru. Play some music while you're doing them, helps ease the boredom.
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>>144975062
I love root chalice dungeons, they're all I do at this point.
What I don't like is farming gems in dungeons.
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>>144974768
>"like sl 70"
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>>144975062
I can see that I guess, but really I hate the layouts of these things.
If I wanted to play a completely optional series of empty square rooms full of the same mobs over and over just on the off chance of finding a fun/hard boss fight I'd finish the Dark Souls 2 DLC.
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>>144975241
I've done literally everything except the chalice dungeons and the final boss, I figured 70 was an appropriate place to stop.
I just blow all my echoes on vials now but I mean if there's some kind of finish-the-game-at-level-40 meta I'm not aware of then I'll keep that in mind.
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>>144975271
For what it's worth though, 80% of Bloodborne is optional, and "empty square rooms full of the same enemies" is 90% of the series.
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>>144975423
I think you got the wrong idea from the start

Chalices are completely optional, not part of the main story in any way

You can run through them all at SL 4 and still finish the game at 100 or whatever you managed to get to, since many do chalices solely for fun, pvp gems/weapons or just grinding echoes

There is nothing forcing you to do a single chalice throughout the game at any point
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>>144975552
>"empty square rooms full of the same enemies" is 90% of the series
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>>144975775
Alright you called my bluff. Some are circular.
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>>144975768
Yeah I know they're optional, but knowing there's hella unique bosses locked away behind chalice dungeons compels me to finish them. That's why I said I wish this was a boss rush. Hell whenever I replay DaS1, I make sure I at least kill Artorias before I finish the game.
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>>144975940
The problem is you're too high level.

Yes the layouts are bland and the enemies are always the same. But when those enemies are actually threatening it doesn't matter as much because you're too busy fighting to whine about being bored.

Once you get to the cursed dungeons later on you'll see.
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>>144974768
Follow the speedrun guide and finish lower pthumeru within an hour and a half at most
It stops being so fucking boring in depth 4
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>>144974768
Don't worry, they'll catch up to you pretty soon. The low level ones are more interesting if you do them at an appropriate level, but the game does a shit job of communicating this to you. Maybe there could've been one short hand-crafted one that was mandatory for progress at some point.

>>144975206
Agreed, root chalices are cool. I don't know why they put non-root chalices in the game. The re-used rooms, enemies and bosses would've been forgivable if it was randomized every time. I guess they wanted players to be able to swap stories about chalices with a common frame of reference, but they could've accomplished that with some kind of daily challenge feature like every roguelite game has, where everyone gets the same seed for 24 hours.
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>>144973306
I have a 50 Blt build (all other offensive stats at minimum for the Bloodletter, Bowblade, and Chikage, no higher), a 50 Arc build with 20 Str for requirements and some HMS, and a 99 Arc build with everything else but Vit at minimum.

For Arc you only need to beat BSB and you're able to get fire gems which can carry you through the entire game. For Blt, you pick a weapon you can use with whatever Str/Skl stats you're planning to end the build with (I just went with Axe; spin2win can make up for the lack of damage) upgrade it as far as you can, and after Amelia either take on Simon or rush Logarius. Low-level Logarius can be a pain, but if you can't crack him a hunter is never alone.
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>>144976353
>I don't know why they put non-root chalices in the game.

Seems like they're mostly there for the sake of the progression of bosses, but randomized stages with the same bosses on the proper floors would've worked far better.
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>>144974764
>constant HP drain
The trick to using the Chikage is to only have it tricked when attacking and untricking it for every other time. When you trick the Chikage and the hunter sheathes it you can hit either R1 or R2 to attack straight from it, get in whatever hits you want to get in, then untrick it to reposition or dodge or whatever.

Tricked Chikage and Bloodletter outdamage guns by miles, because they can get gemmed up and guns can't. I was personally expecting Blt to get boring because only two melee weapons, but I was pleasantly surprised by how good and fun they both are.
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I always dread Rom cause all the bad things the Blood Moon brings ):
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>>144970978
This is kinda dumb because you're always stuck with the same of stuff for certain numbers, but I can dig it. Also, how do you rush to certain late game weapons?
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Anyone here actually spin the wheel ever?
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>>144978904
By going towards them quickly.

You only need to fight 5 bosses to get from the Clinic to Mensis. Same goes for getting to the Hamlet.
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REquesting bully for bullying.

Password is qt
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I think Chalice Dungeons sound really cool. Why do people hate them? I was going to do one soon.
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>>144979634
>Why do people hate them?

Because they ignore them until the end of the game and get bored because they're way overlevelled.
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>>144979796
and because the souls community is a bit too autistic and sugar driven for randomized dungeons
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>>144979634
>wanna make new build
>forced to grind shit
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>>144970978
rollin in it
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Thinking of a 99 arc build with church pick.
Damn weapon requirements.
Other than lhb a scaling in arc what other weapons go great with arc builds?
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>>144970978
rolling
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>>144979998
>forced


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>>144970978
Rolling for next build
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>>144970978
hit me
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>>144980261
the initial scaling isn't very important, you're gonna use two cold abyssals to bump it up to s anyway
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>>144970978
I really want someone to make DLC version of this

I saw one floating around but it was super confusing and did not make any sense
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>>144980395
True that. Thanks.
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>>144946119
>Get PSplus for the first time since it's release
>decide to help out some poor Hunters for bosses I already beat
>Darkbeast Paarl
>get summoned
>host Hunter has my same weapon pretty cool
>game starts and the boss feels much easier since I know its attack patterns
>host gets himself killed and we were halfway through it

Well back to Dark Souls 3
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>>144979634
By the time you've reached Queen Yharnam you'll know exactly why people hate them.
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>mfw whirlyfag saw make a loud PARRY NOW sound every time they press R1
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Okay, so having now finished the DLC, tell me if my interpretation here is right

>the church had a secret little village where they worshipped a big sea squid called Kos, or some say Kosm, who turned someone/something called Rom into a giant spider for the rituals that created the Nightmare of Mensis
>the church was trying to breed Kos, creating evil fish monster people and the living failures
>the entrance to the village was hidden behind the clocktower so nobody would catch on
>victims of some disease were kept in the tower, probably fed to Kos/the monster people of the village
>the church's hunters took part in all this because the blood of great ones gives them power
>at some point the entire place was put into a nightmare dimension to keep all this shit from getting out because breeding Kos wasn't working and the whole fish monster thing was out of hand
>now insane hunters leave to go to the nightmare and try their hand at getting some great one blood
>Maria took it upon herself to enter the nightmare and keep the entrance to the Hamlet sealed, as well as take care of the patients in the tower
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How am I suppose to fight beast hide prick, he's tough
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>>144980694

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
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>>144980694
Everything you said is 100% wrong.

Short version:

Byrgenwerth sent Gehrman/Maria to the Fishing Hamlet because Kos had washed up on the shore. They fucked up the villagers' days.

Healing Church was created, did nasty experiments on people in the shadows, overseen by Maria.

Everything in the Nightmare is a *depiction* of the events that took place, warped by the fact it's a nightmare realm.
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>someone summons me for the 3 watcher assholes
>I take on the fire one so other player isn't bombarded by fire balls and neither am I
>all they need to do is survive while I finish him off
>hear a scream
>the host has died

On another note I've beaten all the bosses until ROM.

Anybody want a partner in their journeys tell me your location and I'll ring my bell.
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>>144980958
>Byrgenwerth sent Gehrman/Maria to the Fishing Hamlet because Kos had washed up on the shore
Guide says Kos was killed during one of the church raids on the village. Can't find the scan right now. Will post once I do.
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>>144981072
>church raids on the village
the church didn't exist yet though
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>>144981119
>>144981072
And Kos washed up already dead and filled with parasites.
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>>144979342
You still need help anon?
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>>144981072
If the guide really says that it's one hell of an inaccuracy. Laurence wouldn't be in the Nightmare if the curse was cast after the Church was founded because he was already fucking dead.
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>>144980261
Bad weapon selection.
Chuch pick will do shit damage with elemental gems, because it loses the thrust damage.
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>>144981414
I got her but thank you. So much more satisfying one on one. All Lady Maria ever wants is a fair fight with your Hunter
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Why is BB so much more put together than DkS3? They half assed the graphics on 3 except for the character creator.
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>>144981750
Because Miyanabanana actually wanted to make Bloodborne and sony wasn't up his ass to release it ASAP.
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>>144981750
How many times can you make cathedrals and castles before you run out of ways to make them look interesting?
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>>144980958
>a *depiction*
which applies to all nightmares and dreams, with the burgertown lecture hall being the sole exception

>>144981750
Because DS3 was a game that had a dev cycle that ran from early 2014 to early 2016, had two different directors, and when the second director took over he was simultaneously working on another project and likely fucking around with plans for a new IP at the same time.
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>>144981750
Sonybux > Bamcobux
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>>144982045
ask the devs of the old FF games
granted those castles are all hand drawn
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>Cooping for Ludwig
>Guy has to be in NG++ at least, Ludwig does half my health in one hit
>Get him to phase two
>Killed by a sword that isn't even touching me
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>>144981604
Does serrated/righteous carry over ontop of arcane?
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>>144983209
Yes, those are damage modifiers tied to a weapon rather than a damage type of a weapon that gets replaced with arc damage
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>>144983209
>>144983434

I know about serration but what is righteous?
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>>144981750
Japan studio was responsible for art,music and sound i believe
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>>144983715
Basically a holy damage modifier that does bonus against the cainhurst vampires and ghosts
The silver swords have it, a few others maybe but I can't remember, church weapons pretty much
Fun fact, the cane is the only weapon in the game with both of the modifiers, righteous damage while untricked and serrated while tricked
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>>144984043
Church pick as well.
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>>144984183
Oh, right, was remembering base game only
Righteous is weird though, like with the kirk only the sword has it and it's an entire church weapon while the cane isn't church related at all but it has it
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Is Rapid Poison more like Bleed or Toxic? I don't think I've ever been inflicted with it.
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>>144984913
Rapid poison is DaS1 bleed, takes an instant chunk off once it fills
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Anyone wanna help with darkebast paarl NG+? pass is fisk, ringing above boss
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>>144985774
>darkebast
darkbeast, obviously
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>>144985774
on my way
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>>144985774
Ringing
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>>144985971
Oh in that case nevermind. I was really looking forward to fighting the darkebast.
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When and why do you 'foul' a note?
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MORE BLOOD!
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>>144986201
When it is deceptive or treacherous.
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Not getting you Darkebast anon
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>>144986201
Never.
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>>144986123
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>>144986343
got help from a friend and an anon real quick, thanks though
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17398

How is it? Going to do full Ayy lmao
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>>144986971
>kos*m*

kill yourself


If you aren't taking ARC all the way to 99 might as well stop it at the softcap and get more health/stamina
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Is shit on fire only if I kill Wet Nurse the Crow or if I just start the fight?
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>>144986218
BLOOD

N
O
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>>144988727
I just solo'd /bbg/ with a Chikage +4. That was intense.
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>>144988727
>>144989605
>unintentional reply

But to make up for it: yes, you have to kill the nurse for the fire to start.
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>>144989746
Thanks and good job Anon
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Anyone else here wish the enemy npc hunters could heal repeatedly?

It'd be great if they respawned to practice heal parries.
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>>144987280
I could have sworn that 70 was another cap for ARC. At least thats what I read here. Someone said that it gave 25% more tool damage over 50.
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>>144990595
tools scale all the way to 99 ARC, but the weapons still softcap at 50.
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>>144990465
Crowsteel does, you're gonna be practicing a lot more than that though.
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>>144990465
No it wouldn't because there's no latency to account for.
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>>144990465
I'd be ok with them healing if they had less bloody hp.
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Alright why is Martyr Logarius such a pain for me to handle. Any good strats for him?
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>>144991373
>>144991582
>>144991612
They're just not difficult enough for me.
Moar frustration is what I want.
I want crowsteel at every lamp forcing people to quit the game.
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>>144991715
paryy
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>>144991715
1st phase stick close to him unless he uses the skull-blast-backstep, try not to let him back into a corner because that makes it really awkward

Charge an R2 on his back when he's switching to 2nd phase, you'll interrupt him and open him up for a backstab.

2nd phase shoot the sword if he plants it into the ground, and if you practice it a bit you can backstab him after he does the lunge from the sky.

Hope that helps, I'm not quite at Cainhurst on this character yet but if you still need a hand after that I can try and rush there since I already have the summons
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>still can't kill Orphan with my Arcane build
JUST
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>>144992427
The guy you're spoonfeeding should have noticed and observed the boss' tactics and figured all that out on his own if he wasn't a fucking idiot.
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>>144992870
Well yeah but if he's asking for advice imma give the boy some advice
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>>144992870
From now on you're not allowed to ask any questions in /bbg/, otherwise you're a retarded scrub.
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>>144992870
Faggot
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>>144993285
Dont you enjoy imagining people struggling throwing their controllers like children at a videogame?

The struggle is good
The struggle will make you stronger.
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>>144993429
>>144993369
Come at me you slow brained shits.
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>>144992427
Just got him. Me and a cooperator bullied him with parries. Did the charge R2 and that helped a ton.

May the good blood guide your way, friend.
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>>144992764
no seriously, I'm sick of this goddamn boss
I've gotten to the point I can easily get him to his 2nd form without healing (didn't know you can laugh at the shitbomb attacks with the Loch Shield)

But at that moment, everything goes to shit, its impossible to read his attacks and ends up becoming a fuckfest of seeing who dishes out more damage close up and personal
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>>144993449
I enjoy >>144993694 more, you do you though

>>144993694
Glad I could help
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>>144994032
Loooool your eyes can't keep up with SMOOTH 30 fps.

Hey if you don't want to earn your victory just summon someone. Maybe youll get lucky and a twink will join your game.
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>tfw you finally kill the guy that hurts Eileen in the chapel on your first play through of the game
Fuck, after I learned to parry him, it got easy.
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>>144993369
>From now on

Where have you been since DeS came out?
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>>144994938
Gitting gud :^)

Serious question though; if I create a cursed dungeon, can i then apply cursed to any subsequent dungeon I make resource free, or will I need to farm the resources again each time?
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>>144995638
If you make the dungeon you need all the materials for each rite.

However, once you create a single cursed root dungeon, you can join any other cursed root dungeon (even other areas; Loran/Isz/Ihyll) via glyph/search for free.
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>>144995971
Ah right, I guess that's why the speed run guide has you save it all till you can make a CRF Isz.

Thanks for the info. Guess I'll have towait a lot longer to get my uncanny LHB.
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I just took a minute to actually look at maria's attacks instead of just parry-spamming...

Jesus, and I thought the "walk left"-Beast was pathetic...
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>>144997246
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>>144997246
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77 is the best metagame all-purpose BL.

Politely debate me people of homosexual orientation.
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>>145000215
Anything higher than 4 is just a crutch and stifles the importance of decision-making.
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Wow the french can't even come up with their own hud.

https://youtu.be/qUN_deqYEqc

Good job from.
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>have to go back and do all the side areas of older chalice layers just to go to the next area

I'm beginning to think this isn't worth the trouble
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>>145001614
Just make root dungeons.
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Why isn't Brador respawning on the bridge right after the lighthouse hut?

I need those armor pieces.
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lucifer is better than dris
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>>145002293
Brador stop respawning in the locations where you kill him.
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>>145002936
I didn't kill him there.

Also he doesn't stop respawning in places you killed him already.
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>>145002293
You can just kill him in his cell, that gives you the remaining pieces I believe
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Can anyone help me kill the Witch of Hemwick? I'm ringing outside her area right now. Isn't there something weird about this fight with co-op, anything I need to do?
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>>145003227
Stop ringing.

Go spend all of your insight then fight it again.
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What's up with those giant pillars off in the distance in the Hunter's Dream?
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>>145003227
I know you can do it anon, they're ez
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>Ludwig

Damn, forgot how hard he was.
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>>145004013
I didn't find him all that hard personally, though I'm on easymode Holy Blade 30 vit build.
Took me a couple tries but that's a given.

The horse noses his decapitated head makes are pretty great though
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>>145003798
I thought they were trees
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>>145001431
Will this be a gem like Lords of the fallen?
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>>145003327
Woah wtf
Thx for the tip
This is my first time playing I now think I have no idea what insight does >>145003920
I know, I'm just bad zzz
I killed the first witch super fast every time but I had trouble when the second witch would spawn and revive her and they'd start summoning 3-4 that I couldn't get through
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>>145004142

I'm pretty much using Logarius' wheel on him. yeahhhh it's tough.
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Someone school me on Bloodborne's lore. I'm new to the game, but this shit is more obscure than Dark Souls.

It doesn't help that there isn't a magical chick who gives you a magical quest to seek the demon's souls/lord souls/dark soul/princest twins like in the four souls games

Gehrman is somehow more unhelpful than every Crestfallen Warrior combined, even if he was a kickass fight
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>>145004013
I've only beaten him twice across two playthroughs, but I've found that once I get him to MY GUIDING MOONLIGHT the fight is basically won unless I git greedy (which I do).
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Anyone have a glyph for the 3rd tier Eye rune? The one in the google doc is for sinister Isz and I never bought the sinister chalice.
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>>145005158
It's the prequel to Splatoon
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>>145005158

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/
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>fighting a boss
>(family member) wants to use the TV

P C W H E N
C
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>>145005327
>once I get him to MY GUIDING MOONLIGHT the fight is basically won
It's the exact opposite for me, I can dodge all his attacks in the first phase flawlessly, but I ge hit constantly when he uses the sword.
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>>145006102

Every time I've lost to phase two, it's because I did something retarded like dodging directly into his HOLY MOONLIGHT SUPERNOVA while trying to do a quick attack
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>>145006052
I use vita tv when my gal needs the tv.

Make sure your ps4 is using the ethernet cable and the latency isn't that bad.
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>>145006259

I lose to phase 2 a lot because i get too greedy
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>>145006102
Try dodging counterclockwise against his second form, I find it's the most reliable way to avoid his sword swings.
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Why can't I shoot/throw shit at the shark on the ceiling past the Winter Lanterns? He's right there for fuck's sake.


>>145006914
>i get too greedy

Stop doing that.
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Doing burning hot dog on my fresh arc niqqa. Anyone want to carry? pass is bbg. Two runs would be great.
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>>145007168
To prevent people from oneshotting him and missing the Rakuyo probably.
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I seem to recall there being a BB edit of this. Anyone have it on hand?
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I have 2 questions.
1. How do I into 30fps?

As a PCkid, I can't help but feel 30fps is really tearing on my eyes, but bloodborne is a great game.

And 2nd: Is it worth playing through even without the DLC?
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>+20-22% gems for all my slots in a few minutes

Winter Lanterns are the best.
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>>145008668
The DLC is great and adds a lot of cool weapons but yeah you can play without it
It'll lessen your replay value though
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>>145008668
1. You're retarded. Deal with it.

2. Absolutely.
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>>145008668
1 - Play it for a bit, it's not that bad if you get used to it

2 - Yeah it is, was a great game before the DLC but the DLC is amazing so if you can get it do so
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>>145008683

If only I could fucking kill them consistently

It takes me four R1s to do it with my Reiterpallasch and my head usually explodes by the third R1
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>>145008668
>1. How do I into 30fps?
Play until you get used to it.
>2nd: Is it worth playing through even without the DLC?
I wouldn't recommend it.
The DLC is the best part of the game, and it has more/better content than any other DLC in the series.
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>>145008887
>better content than any other DLC in the series

C'mon now
The DLC is good but I wouldn't say any of its boss fights are near as good as Artorias was
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>>145008668

I mean, Chalice Dungeons are base game and they're basically the reason to keep playing long after you've finished with the game

So you don't really need the DLC, the DLC is literally Artorias of the Abyss tier

Adds a few cool things, a bunch of ballbusting areas, some new toys and fashion options, but all in all can be done without
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>>145008878
You have to get the parry timing down. That way the Frenzy triggers during the visceral animation and you take no damage.
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>>145009013
Orphan and Ludwig blow him out of water.
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>>145009027
>>145009013

O SHIT CONFLICTING OPINIONS REGARDING ARTORIAS OF THE ABYSS
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>>145009013
>I wouldn't say any of its boss fights are near as good as Artorias was
Found the guy who summoned for Orphan.
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>>145009013
They are though, Artorias was a great fight but that's nostalgia talking
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>>145009142
>Orphan
I could see the argument but Orphan just thrashes around a lot for the most part

>Ludwig
Easy boss easy life mang
Him pulling the sword out on you in the second half is cool but otherwise he doesn't do much special

I liked both fights but I wouldn't say they're as good as Artorias, in fact I enjoyed Maria more than either of them
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>>145008668
I saw some youtubers bb pvp compilations and i swear he is recording it in 60 fps. Dunno if his tv had something fancy built in for smoothing but i wonder if it fucks with your timing.
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>>145009207
No, I'm the guy who spent two hours fighting Orphan because I don't have PSPlus
Big difference
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>>145009351
Artorias is easier than Ludwig though, he's on par with Lady Maria.
>Him pulling the sword out on you in the second half is cool but otherwise he doesn't do much special
Artorias doesn't even do that, he only has one phase. He's a good boss, but also the most overrated. I place Sanctuary Guardian above him.
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>>145009351

Maria and Gehrman are objectively the best fights in the game, since they're not fights with dudes who are retardedly big, turning the whole scene into something goofy.

Silliest thing about the souls series is that it insists on having all the humanoid bosses be Father Gaston size or bigger, meaning you have to deal with a fight where you're staring at some dude's cooch for the whole thing

Where's the high drama?
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>>145009370
Could you link their videos?

I swear I would do anything, ANYTHING, to get rid of BBs terrible framerate.
If it was consistent 30fps, I could deal with it.
But it dips and spikes so dramatically.

I played DeS on PS3 when it came out, but it was nothing like this.
Is the PS4 just a bad machine or something?
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>>145009594
>Maria
>objectively best
What the fuck is wrong with you
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>>145009538
Artorias' difficulty varies pretty wildly based on build in my experience, but I think his moveset is just weird enough to be cool while also not having any weird bullshit in it.
The first and only time Ludwig caught me off guard with his half-the-arena-sized magic blast just felt weird and jarring.

>>145009594
Yeah I agree with that. I still think relatively-human-sized bosses should be the exception because they can definitely get old quickly, but they're the most engaging.
That's part of why I like Artorias. He's bigger than you, but not like 80 stories tall. Big enough to be intimidating and look non-human but small enough that your camera doesn't flip the fuck out.
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>>145009816

I think the only game on my PS4 that's 60fps is one of my idolshit rpgs
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>>145009895
What's wrong with it? It's a good fight
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>>145009932
>Artorias' difficulty varies pretty wildly based on build in my experience
Yeah, he varies from "barely a boss" (pyro/sorc build) to "very easy" (dex/str).
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>>145009351
>I could see the argument but Orphan just thrashes around a lot for the most part

He absolutely does not. At least, his thrashing is brilliantly designed to punish your reflexes.
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>>145009895
>can be parried
>can also parry

POETRY
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Bravo, A-team
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>>145010165
>can be parried
>that's all she can do
Lord Gwyn's secret daughter
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>>145009816
The framrate only gets fucky during co-op since the game deals with latency by halving everyones framerate for some retarded reason.

Most of the time it's consistent enough.

Frankly if you're going to be that much of a snob about the framerate you don't deserve the game anyways.
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>>145010127
>this man has never tried to beat Artorias on a pure faith build
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>>145009895
Not my fault you've bulled her everytime and missed out of one of the best fights.
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Do I just have to make one sinister chalice of any type to be able to use glyphs for all sinister chalices?
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>check OP for chalice speedrun guide
>youtube links

How the fuck is it supposed to be speedy if I have to watch a video?
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