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>News
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# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - General Fixes V003
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cr6upg7blz89zf8/gsgmodv003.7z


>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.3 - 21/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>144846249
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>144900558
pls help
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GSG MOD V003
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cr6upg7blz89zf8/gsgmodv003.7z

GSG MOD V003
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cr6upg7blz89zf8/gsgmodv003.7z

GSG MOD V003
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cr6upg7blz89zf8/gsgmodv003.7z
Changelog: I replaced all of the Axis music to real life music and I changed the opening music. I also tinkered with Italy a bit.


DESCRIPTION:
This mod aims to provide a more historical and less 'flippant' experience to the game. Flags and country names are proper, so a change to communism or fascism will not yield a silly name for your country.

In addition, I have added plenty of new music to the game.
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Is hoi4 like hoi3 and DH and reality in that battleships are fucking useless and carriers are the wrath of God made manifest?
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There's a lot of shitty things about the HoI4 AI.

But if this happened in HoI3 I would be pissing my pants with excitement. This is a completely AI directed invasion, by AI, against AI. Using sensible ports and targeting victory points.
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Where can I pirate HOI4?
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>>144900960
I haven't used them, so take this with a grain of salt, it comes from watching streamers.

Even ancient (pre-dreadnought) battleships are the bane of everything afloat that comes near them, but carriers shit on them hard (and so do shore based naval bombers which are insanely powerful now)
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>>144900757
Reminder to end yourself
>>144900960
In the 1940's? Yes.
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>be france
>never really focus or care about my navy
>just produce a bunch of subs to keep my dockyards busy
>war with japan breaks out
>decide to help
>gather the entire fleet, which is just the starter fleet with more subs, into one doomstack
>send them to search and destroy around the japanese home isles
>severely win every single naval battle
So either this is broken, or the AI is just really bad at countering doomstacks.
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Has anyone that pirated HOI4 got multiplayer working? If so, mind telling what you did?
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>>144900839
Go fascist.

Also you fucked up the invasion, gather a stronger force before you go in. You should have more than 24 divisions really. If you can't punch trough then you will just get bogged down and Finland will lose in that kind of war since you have one of the lowest manpower pools out there.
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>>144900946
Shouldn't you change the Fascist Japan flag away from the naval ensign if you're going for historicity?

Who cares if that means democratic Japan and Fascist Japan have the same flag, it's accurate.
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>>144901234
doomstack subs are broken, I've seen a 42 stack of submarines sink like 3 battleships and all their escorts

as for doomstacks of surface ships... well that's fucking period accurate mahian doctrine, it's supposed to be more powerful than spreading your fleet out
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>>144901274
>Also you fucked up the invasion, gather a stronger force before you go in. You should have more than 24 divisions really. If you can't punch trough then you will just get bogged down and Finland will lose in that kind of war since you have one of the lowest manpower pools out there.
Wait, what do you mean?
I just gathere 20ish division to their front, made up a CB, trained 1 month before executing the plan, put recruitment to max and went to war.
I could only get 1 inf and 1 light armor with the max recruitment though.
I don't understand what I did wrong, honestly.
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>>144901378
Subs in general seem broken

It doesn't matter how many you have
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Since the AI is shit and cant plan any naval invasion on me and doesnt do anything about the massive air advantage i have, its a pretty comfy set up
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>be norway
>go facist
>england instantly invades
>i lose

fuck off britain, goddamn.
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>>144901753
How are you surviving? Why aren't they pushing through the rest of your border?
Post more pics pls
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I'll ask again:

How many ships can a navy have before there is an equivalent to a stacking penalty?

What's the capital to screen ratio I should have?
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OOB mod when
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First for glorious map mods
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>1941
>France
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>>144900960
Well that depends. Do you have an airfield near the sea zone you're putting your battleships into? If you do, then battleships rape. If not you'll never even close to the enemy carriers before their torpedo bombers and attackers shit on you.

From what I remember air support was worthless in HoI3 and HoI2 so by extension DH, but in HoI4 if you have air support from land bases you can wreck carrier air groups pretty easily.
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>>144901878
From the last thread: >>144899679
>>144900392
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>>144901959
what has changed?
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Ah. No mega upload for Hearts of Iron 4 yet?
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>>144902062
Looks like a terrain mapmode without the country color overlapping.
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How the fuck do paratroopers work? According to this, they have been 'preparing' for over a fucking year.
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>>144902038
So basically, if I put a nice big battleship fleet in the English Channel, put a couple thousand fighters there as well, Britain falls?
Nice
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Fuck HOI4, Darkest Hour is the superior WWII grand strategy game
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Do divisions assigned to a front advance on their own?

Micromanaging every invasion of these Siberian provinces is getting tiring.
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>>144901593
I started a coup in Siberia thinking that it would divide the soviets attention however when the war ended i lost all my captured lands which reached beyond the urals then they went to the newly spawned russian empire which is also in the axis.

>>144901628
I'm still at war with the allies that is to say Britain and the free american empire, i tried to start a coup in the usa but instead they just got voted in so they never went to civil war.
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>>144902170
I got mine from mega lmao
>>144902238
>democratic Germany
>invading france
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>>144902319
if you draw the right arrows, yes.
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>>144902059
327%?
WHAT THE FUCK
that's a full buffed winter soviet in 1942 kind of defense bonus
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>>144902425
I invaded Yugoslavia. France didn't like that.
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>>144902462
Entranchement is broken
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>>144902238
Did you try reading the tooltip?
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>>144902238
literally says on the tooltip
you need more fighters in tyrrenian sea and then you can send them
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>>144902251
Probably. I don't know how good the AI is at reacting right now, but Britain has colossal air force of very powerful fighters and a shit ton of naval bombers of their own so it's pretty hard to beat them in the air. They also have tons and tons of battleships. It's not like their forces are hinged entirely on carriers.

I think that the AI is pretty weakshit at responding to developing air and naval situations right now, so it's probably not hard to beat Britain by doing that.
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>>144902319
gotta plan an attack route after placing a frontline, Just using frontline has your soldiers dig in and wait.
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>>144902425
Post it ya' cunt. I wont waste 40 ducats on it.
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>>144901473
>Tanks
Don't think you should be omitting to tanks as Finland. Try incorporating more artillery, that has more bang per man power.

What was your division composition?

Also you should have had at least service by requirement before going in. That gives you 10% recruitable manpower. That should be enough for 40 divisions and little bit of spares on it's own.

Fascism gives you extra 7% which is good for 30 or so divisions so fascism route is a lot stronger militarily

In my pre war Finland save, the day I could attack (7th of January 1939) I have 195k manpower in my army and 165k manpower in my pool with 9.5%. I have 29 divisions ready to strike and if I played this better I could have had an extra 20 divisions, though my manpower pool would only last for a while if the engagement didn't instantly succeed.
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simply ebin
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How do you shift aircraft around? I've only been able to do it individually, and I have like 1500 various craft in western Germany not helping fight off Normandy
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Should I play HoI4? Whats it like compared to HoI3?
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>one more reform and it'll be me vs thousands and thousands of communists demanding reforms that would actually be good for them and bad for the state
Can't fucking wait.
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>>144902429
>>144902684
God damnit. Now I have to break up my armies and make smaller fronts and do more micromanaging.
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>>144902757
pcgames-download dot net
Front page
>>144901473
Your manpower pool is fucking garbage as Finland, you CANT have many divisions because divisions are made up of HUMANS and you have very few HUMANS in Finland because Finland is a dark, cold, wet nightmare of a country that nobody wants to live or raise children in.
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>>144900683
Daily reminder germany is eternally cucked in WWII
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gib pirated HOI4 link plz
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>>144903087
Imagine there are no HQs and that's about it, also unit recruitment/supply production has been incorporated in an interesting system which is bases on individual equipment pieces which require much management. Research has been deflated so there is a lot less useless shit to research which is good, focus tree is a fun addition. It's like a mix between DH and HoI3. Play it.
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>>144903137
>ever promoting generals
JUST USE LOADS OF GUYS WITH 24 UNIT CAP
Micromanaging is literally better, and they get to keep all their traits that way.
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>>144903219
rude t. finn
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>>144903435
>implying they were promoted and not already Field Marshals
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>>144903219
>huge ad telling me to turn off ad-block
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>>144903470
At least you people make some good music
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>>144903435
It has different pros/cons. 24 cap limit generals gain traits like desert rat, so you have a better desert force while field marshals get stuff like +10% soft attack for all traits.
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Judging from pics, HOI4 looks like EvW fixed

Does it have population like EvW?
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>>144903435
I kind of do it for RP reasons. I have Field Marshal Erwin Rommel up to level 6 or 7, with two traits.
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>>144903219
Thanks for reminding me why I drink. A glass for that sprölölöö
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>>144903551
Yeah but I don't mind it really. The ads are manageable and all the downloads worked well with no malware yet. I dont mind turning off ad-block to keep a decent direct download site running.
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>>144901313
No because fascist Japan is synonymous with the IJN naval ensign.
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>>144903724
>this game where all you can do is blob looks exactly like a fixed version of a game that should depict the time in history where blobbing was most rare and dangerous
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>>144903392
Thanks for the reply. Getting it now.
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>japan gets tons of oil from venezuela
>venezuela sends volunteers to every member of the axis
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>>144903724
HoI4 has population, but it doesn't matter too much beyond what you can recruit into your army. I guess IC cap also depends to a degree on how much pop a province has.
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>>144904021
At least they are contributing to the war effort unlike those dirty Italians
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What should my goals be for fascist mexico?

I'm thinking I should keep eating up Central America then build up like a motherfucker. Then wait until the US is deep in the war in Europe then dickstab them and take at least California.
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someone please post the piracy protection with Johan where you have to pay 6 million shekels to unlock your games
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>>144903692
Oh, I didn't realise they had different traits. I couldn't commit enough units to any front's for it to really matter before, and I saw that I would lose my traits.

Now that I have a fairly large front with Russia is it worth promoting some of my high level generals to field marshals?
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>>144904106
>honduras is part of mexico

DELET
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>>144903814
That doesn't make it historically accurate.
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>>144903096
My recruitable population is now growing while i have this massive front. I dont fucking get this game
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>>144903219
Finland seems like an autists paradise. I wouldn't mind living there.
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>>144904106
Take all of your rightful clay in the southwest, all of central america including panama and the canal, and all of the west indies
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How do I rebase my fleet far away? I'm trying to move Baltic fleet to Pacific, but it doesn't tell me why I can't
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can someone test this? has no virus I promise :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wf35uv1q7yu08aw/British%20Isles%20Map%20Mod.rar?dl=0
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>>144903096
Based AI

Just let US grind it's country to dust against your wall and then march in and take all of it's shit.
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>>144903939
Don't fall for the arrow meme, remember to mostly use all your divisions yourself and it's quite enjoyable.
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less than a year from start to finish

attacking during the great purge is a hell of a drug
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>>144904475
>Stalin purging at 1940

Just #soviet things
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>>144904210
At least one field marshal is probably a good idea and takes a load of you when you have a big frontline.
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>>144904636
I turned off historical AI focuses for shits and giggles to see if Italy would go full Roman or something, and Stalin waited until late 1939 to purge.
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Please help me you guys. How do I move these god damn planes?
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>>144903780
I like to give Rommel 24 crack panzer divisions, set a offensive line deep inside the enemy country and let him do his thing.
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>>144904842
alt f4
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>>144904842
You le click on the air port with a wing selected
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Back up is on its way
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I miss the OOB ;_;
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>tfw no CK2>EU3>V2>HoI4>EvW>Stellaris mega campaign
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Right I'm feeling somewhat disappointed in HOI4 so far as I was expecting "half decent grand strategy experience". As of yet the game has either been far less enjoyable than that, or actually more closely adhears to juvenille pay to unlock content schemes than my ability to detect Jewry would lead me to believe.

As for mods I don't think it's a practical, moral, nor effective solution to any of the game's problems.
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>>144905102
There should be game between HoI and Stellaris
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Chinese Puppet or War with China? What are the pros and cons?
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>>144905214
East vs West
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>>144905214
Nice
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>>144905027
Reminder that this would never happen in HoI 3.
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>>144904475
good now give it all to germany
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Do any of you feel like you've gotten the experience Podcat describes here?
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>>144904434
Yeah I've had this problem with the US, solution seems to be to select the fleet, and ctrl+click on the port you want to move it to. Ctrl click sets that port as its home port, after that click on the port with the fleet as normal and it should move, worked for me.
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>>144905214
Hearts of Iron 4: Future Shekel Wars

Added stellaris converter for only 19.99 shekels
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>>144903096
Mate
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>>144904434
Same guy as before, you're right its fucking odd that when you try and move a fleet far away it just gives you that metallic twang sound and gives you no other feedback. I assume its a fleet range/supply thing.
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>>144900683
i want to talk about my grobgermanus but all these newfags are here ree
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>>144905097
t. autism pro
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Is HoI4 only for 64-bit? Because my computer is 32-bit.
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>>144905387
I really like the fact that AI is actually active with it's naval invasions in 4.

On the other hand since it actually tries to do stuff it's bad decision making is also enhanced when compared to the railroaded 3
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Is there a way to wage war in South America as one of the South American states without USA butting in?
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How much Russia is lebensraum and how much is blobbing? No, I can't take everything up to the Urals. Also, the Poles took the Soviets as a puppet.
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>>144905803
what g*me nigger
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Has anyone played as australia or new zealand yet? What's the optimal way to expand as a minor that needs too many things and not so much time to build up a force?
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>>144905803
>>144905923
Hearts of Iron 4
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6 millions people isn't a bad number, despite being double than what it historically was.
Still better than the old numbers.
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>>144905923
EU2 of course
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>>144905719
>my computer is 32 bit
Either you're a moron and installed 32 bit Windows on a 64 bit processor, or your computer is made circa 2006 and can't run it anyways.

but it's a 32 bit program
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>>144905803
Load in as US, revoke guarantees on the South American countries, load back in as your country of choice. You might need a world tension minimum to revoke them not sure.
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>>144901889
wait for some autists to figure it out

no one here is autistic enough
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Anyone had cool results yet from selecting non-historical focuses? Like, alt-history shit. Two games so far and nothing unique, except Russia withdrew from the Far East.
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>>144906004
My brother installed a 32 bit Windows in my PC. I NEVER WANTED TO DOWNLOAD WIN 10. FUCK
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>>144905956
I am 99% sure USA doesn't butt in if you're guaranteed by them. They have a focus that lets them fuck your shit up, but they won't have it in the beginning.
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>>144906014
United States has to take an idea for it to kick in, it isn't at the start.
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>>144905958
>6 millions people
never forget goyim
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>>144906101
Windows 10 isn't even available in 32 bit you malnourished gnome.
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>>144905958
if the potato famine rgo modifier is -300%, nobody will get their needs and thousands will die off
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>>144905958
>6 millions people isn't a bad number, despite being double than what it historically was.
t. HPM
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>>144905770
>HOI3 railroaded

In what way?
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>>144903087
it's fine lad

sometimes I think the hoi3 circle-jerkers didn't play that shit on launch
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Any chance of CK2 going on sale soon?
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>>144905958
Industry is following a the same pattern: early game heavy industry is scarce and important, late game it becomes more diffuse, to the point of over saturation. Fortunately, no market crash happened for heavy industry due to overproduction, so that's good.

For the first time I also saw a basic good in slightly more demanded that supplies, a good sign that I'm close to a good solution for late game overproduction of certain goods.

>>144906182
I don't want something artificial like that (more than I already have anyway) and they did produce shit during the time anyway. Besides, their RGOs are mainly food, the ones that are under supplied early game. I've been considering remove any RGO malus altogether and just use an income malus.
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>>144906180
Explain this, then
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Lads, what is this graphic mod? Pic is not mine, found it on /his/

pls spoonfeed.
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>>144906385
>our old game wasn't great on launch so it's totally OK that our new game is a fundamentally broken piece of casualised shit goy
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>>144900960
Carriers > Battleships >>>> Destroyers >>>>>>> Cruisers

>>144901234
>>144901378
>>144901693
Subs are broken because they get retreat bonuses and first strike surprise. If you get enough of them together you can sink an entire fleet at once and only have to worry about losing a few unless the enemy is stacking destroyers which hard counter subs
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>>144906385
>Old Paradox did this horribly launch so it's fine they do it forever


>>144906502
MMMM in the archive
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>>144906457
An income malus is more artificial than an RGO output malus. It's the least abstract option.
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>>144906502
>tfw you can tell it's your mod since it has Kuwait

I use MMMMStrongterrain, it's in the Mega

>>144906457
Good to see you HPM!

I think I may have asked you this before. but how do you set a custom wargoal? (Such as the Xhosa one or similiar)
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>>144906536
Even then subs can still just retreat.

Only way to kill AI subs so far is to bait them into a fight with an inferior fleet or kill them as part of a bigger AI fleet.

I have had on two occasions subs fight and retreat in the same province for several years in the row until I just docked my fleets because I couldn't take the constant naval battle alerts.
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>>144906682
Not really since they did produce, they just had to pay a lot of shit to landowners and got poor as fuck. That and unemployment.

And unemployment is already represented by RGO size.

>>144906808
You mean how to mod a custom CB, how to set one in a war or how to set one that the game start?
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>>144905516
Never played as a major in HOI3 but as Yugoslav that's what I did against my neighbors and I conquered the from the Balkans to the Levant.
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>>144906894
Because it's supposed to be an historical game.

Why would they include such outlandish fantasy?
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>>144906942
They produced but they produced way less than they did before
It's called the potato famine for a reason.
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>>144906874
They're not immune from naval strike either. If I keep getting the stupid siren every five seconds because there's a single sub left in a province I just move the fleet out of the area and naval strike and it gets sunk. Naval strike is broken as fuck.
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>>144903097
what mod is this? havent seen penal law before.
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>>144907075
Oh I didn't try that one yet. Thanks anon.
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>13 hour fucking MP game

>peace confrence in 1946

>game crashes at the end of the conference

great game paradox
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>>144907168
HPM
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>>144907034
Oh, you talking about the potato famine only. I'm talking about the other, longer modifier.

In any case, even in that scenario, potato was a subsistence crop rather than exportation shit, that's why so many people starved.
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>>144907247
Was it with le stramgrouppe?
Are they going to raid us again?
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>mfw these borders
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>>144907354
You mean the Irish Opression modifier?
You're not seriously going to make Irish pops magically have less money, right?
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>>144905516
In HoI3? Yea I pretty much used AI to control my theaters and had it roll over the enemy AI. I did fail Barbarossa once, but I really didn't have a sane production/research plan so I had a very small and shitty army. Comparatively speaking.

>>144906347
Pretty much goes the same way every time because a lot of things the AI does are hardcoded. Like USSR declares war on Germany if Germany occupies London.
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Anyone know how to lower the age of possible concubines and wives in CK2? I tried editing the defines.lua but the game just crashes.
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>>144906942
I mean a special CB that sets up an event, like a treaty
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So I'm trying to industrialize as Liberia, what use are my civilian factories besides militarizing? As in is there any way I can use my factories to industrialize?
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Interesting developments, Germany starts war with Poland, but Staling somehow manages to ninja all of Poland away.
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>>144907624
They repair damaged buildings, infrastructure etc.
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>>144907642
/gsg/ is an English general fuck off
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>>144906942
Anyway civil war was very unorthodox

>>144907534
NNM already does it and I explained the reasoning. The modifier takes income from the poor and gives it to the rich.

Besides, that's the only thing keeping immigration levels to a reasonable level. Otherwise they end with 40 million people by end game because no one leaves Ireland.

>>144907565
Have on_po_accepted fire an event or set a flag for one of the parties.

Like

on_po_accepted = { THIS = { set_country_flag = friendly_communist_puppet } country_event = 96087 }
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>>144900683
>play Britain in multiplayer
>manoeuvre game so that it becomes soviet versus axis versus allies straight off, with Germany attacking soviets first, we agree to truce while I secretly plan to stab Germany in the back when he's fully committed to the east
>however soviet player has politically influenced a ton of south American/Asian nations
>soviet brazil attacks allied uruaguay
>soviets attack Germany
>I try to attack Germany after ending the truce
>lolno you cant fight someone who is also fighting the same enemy, even though they are from different factions, got pulled in for different reasons and basically are separate entities
>in otherwords, allies and germans cant have a three way war with Russia
>end up marching through Nazi Germany to invade Russia

BELIEVABLE FUCKING WORLDS PARADOX

end of the game
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>>144907542
age_of_marriage_female in the lua determines that IIRC you can set it to whatever you want.
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>>144906470
http://www.howtogeek.com/228042/how-to-switch-from-32-bit-windows-10-to-64-bit-windows-10/

I was wrong (they only sell it 64 bit but you can upgrade to 32 bit), but you're a fucking moron because the answer to your issue is the first result on Google.
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>>144907542
defines.lua worked fine last time I tried

Although I haven't played CK2 since pre horse lords so who knows.
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>>144907791
t. the eternal anglo.
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>>144907642
I can out do that
>Playing as US
>Overlord goes off without a hitch
>Soviets declare on me because I embargoed them
>Germany capitulates after the Allied/Comintern wall of death squishes it
>Poland gets released from all of their cores except for provinces occupied by Soviet troops
>Creates an encirclement around half the Soviet front line
I like to head canon that it was a Polish uprising against Soviet rule which pushed the war in my favor, but man the game needs fucking work.
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Tips for playing Winland?

Im planning becoming fascist after which I take over sweden and rest of scandinavia. That would take a year or two at most.

After that I could gear up for winter war at least another year. Given the powerful foci I should roll over Russia with or without German help

What ya think?
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>>144907901
Well it's not like Britain or the US could have sold it to their citizens that they were fighting Nazis and Soviets at the same time.
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>>144907898
>NNM already does it
No it doesn't.
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>>144907898
Did you give the Irish a negative pop growth modifier? It doesn't look like they have one in the tooltip.
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>>144907476
what?

>have a fucking huge war, ww2 plus, soviet vs german war
>allies vs axis vs soviet

>american civil war too, Axis helping facist america trying to rise up, Allies vs Axis

>overtake the WHOLE of europe, 95% of africa, all of central asia, all of middle east, all of soviet union, all of japan. War end

>peace conference

>end of conference

>sweden, belgium, switzerland, iraq, ireland plus other smaller countries reformed and are created

>civil war is still active, we are at war with all the countries reformed that we totally overtook
>have to retake them

great feature paradox

also

>American civil war was over the Free American Empire being formed by the Silver Legion of America

>7 years into the "civil war" that is only taking place in europe with democratic America in the allies

>america becomes facist, the same facists we were trying to install, in THIS civil war

>they are still in the allies and are now fighting us, the country who is fighting for them to be incharge.

what in the actual fuck, in theory if we won we would just install them as the goverment, which they already are.
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>>144908198
You're gonna need to exploit entrenchment
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>>144907934
>>144907980
As the game tries to load the game logic, the game just crashes.
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>conquer the soviet union
>they had American expeditionary forces
>united states pockets slowly reconquering siberia
I dont want to deal with this
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Can someone explain to me how the fuck do battle planning works? I cant micromanage EVERYTHING why the fuck did they change hoi3 automated system for something even less intuitive
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>>144907898
Economical data is a little better but inside the expected number.

>>144908306
They are making less money because they produce less, even though production wasn't the problem.

The difference between that and what I do is that the money goes to the rich instead of everyone making less money.

>>144908348
Only during the famine.
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>>144908546
it is 10x's better than the hoi3 automated system lol, its annoying to use but when you learn its perfect for just letting the AI do it for you.
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The war seems to go pretty well now, at least the AI knows how to transport troops to another continent
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Any official screenshots or word on Kaiserreich for HOI4?
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>>144908546
>set up front line
>draw where you want to conquer
>adjust your arrow to the specific provinces you want to capture
>use edit as necessary
Tbh, I only really manually control to create encirclements which is what I always wanted to do in HoI3 anyways

>>144908712
There's a SS floating around from the country select screen. Maybe check out their site.
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>>144908681
Probably because transports are now entirely automated and they still get through even with fleets sat in the sea zones
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>>144908586
Have you thought of changing the policy of the UK's Liberal Party that replaces the Whig Party from Interventionism to Lassiez-Faire? The UK is the biggest source of overproduction and plummeting prices late game due to their habit of subsidizing everything even if the party in power historically promoted the free market.
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>>144906808
>>144906619
Thanks lads.
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>>144908821
Convoy raiding mission should stop them.
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>>144908821
If you select convoy raiding it'll sink AI invasions.
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>>144908712
They confirmed theyll make it.
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>>144901987
Are those venezuelan divisions in france?
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>>144908792
>set up front line
>draw where you want to conque
I dont know man I draw the map and a lines sprout at random, I have no idea of what I'm doing and it says no divisions are attached to the battle plan without offering an advice of how to attach them.
This shit is not very user friendly, I had no trouble understanding how shit worked in HOI3 now I cant fucking figure this out.
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>>144909359
Look, friend.
If this system is fundamentally too complicated for you, remove yourself from the human genepool for the betterment of our evolution as a species.
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>>144909359
>only 29 factories and planning on taking on Japan
wtf
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If HoI 4 never received a single update it would still be 10/10.

Thoughts?
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>>144909359
>make the whole system extremely simple and easy to manage forces moving on a large front

>cant figure it out
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>>144909649
6.8 at best
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>>144909649
Not even worth a reply.

wait...
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Is there any way to annex puppets in HoI4?
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>>144909715
I could figure out HOI3 one just fine, this one is too autistic.
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>>144908873
Seems kinda strange that their only L-F party is anarcho liberal.

I'm inclined to do that but I need to check that first.
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>>144909806
autistic? its far more streamlined and actually better features
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>waiting for japan to capitulate in a war you dont care about
Is there a cheat? The game is already starting to chug and i dont want to wait 10 years
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>>144909854
Oh, Ireland is released with trinket subsides and healthcare. That explains a few things.
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>>144909963
You could be impatient like the americans were and send two notes to speed things up.
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>>144909854
So the USA event spam is getting fixed for this update too?

Do you have any goals after you've sorted out that and the economy?
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>>144910093
Yeah i thought of that, but nukes dont win the game like in real life
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god hoi4 is so fucking boring, i can't even think of the specific reason but it's just so dull
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>>144910062
Can I release my love inside of you HPM?
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>>144909942
Ok not autistic ENOUGH, I literally cannot comprehend it.
>>144909647
What version of HOI4 are you playing? I fucking butchered them with the help of the soviets I loaded back to pre war to try and understand how automation works.
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god hoi4 is so fucking boring, i can't even think of the specific reason but it's just so dull
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>>144910191
>germany has already capitulated but just called iraq and iran into the war

worst endgame ever
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>1942
>10 fps on speed 3

my cpu is a bit outdated by lads this is ridiculous
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>>144910094
Yes, it is.

For this update? Not really, those are the two major power goals.
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>>144910363
Have you thought of making paper a factory maintenece good?
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>>144905102
>stellaris
NO
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>>144910330

Maybe it will be good in a year when modders cobble together a proper game out of it.

I understand it's much easier to mod interesting things now.

But I'm just going to leave it alone until then. I feel bad for everyone who bought it you have my sympathies.
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>>144910361
kek i remember when i used to play games on a laptop and when it overheated i'd stand it on egg boxes so it had some breathing room
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>>144910361
>1356
>1 tick per second on speed 5
Fuck MEIOU&Taxes fäm
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After I finish this American music mod for HoI4, anyone interested? If so I'll upload to mega.
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>>144910505
I don't think it would end lead to good end results. Decreased throughput because of lack of paper, that is.

If you want to represent paperwork, we could just increase how much capitalists/clerks use.
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how do i increase range of paratroopers?
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I'm at war with axis and allies
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>>144910698
as long as it isn't memetic
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anyone know the best division setups yet? right now im using 2x4 infantry + 1 artillery with recon+eng+arty+hospital+logistics support battalions

when i get a field marshal that has the Offensive Doctrine trait (reduces combat width by -10%) i add another artillery division

this is built around the combat width system obviously, allowing me to get 4 divisions into a battle from 1 direction
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> Play Commie Yugo
> Germany attacks 1940
> Defeat Germany

And here I was hoping for a GSG. I would have lost in HOI3, but in HOI4 I only need to press play.
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>3 months since last hpm release
is it a coincidence that this was when hpm started fucking around with the economy? did liquormemer make hpm go insane?
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>>144910725
HPM what do you use as your historical sources for population numbers, economic and industrial power, military power and so on?
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>>144910513
I think this is everyones hope.
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>>144910840
make sure to make your arrows extra pointy ladm8
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>>144910859
It's all period music. Peace songs are some Andrews Sisters and Glenn Miller, and a Benny Goodman song probably gonna add in some Louis Jordan. War songs are the standard affair: Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy, American Patrol, GI Jive, Don't Sit under the Apple Tree, Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition. I'm avoiding anything that specifically references the opponents like Slap a Jap, You're a Sap Mr. Jap, Hang out the Washing on the Siegfried Line so it'll match any faction you join.
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>>144910870
6 motorised infantry nothing else
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>>144910870
25 heavy armor
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My perfect son dies and 2 revolts in a row... fuck this shit. Ill try EU IV next
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>>144910974
The liquormeme started after HPM added liquor as maintenance good for armies and it got even more profitable
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>>144911258
just reload faggot lmao
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>>144911286
is it what made hpm screw around with the economy? before that, all he did was make decisions and events
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>>144908873
>>144909854
Seems like you are right. They don't seem to be anti-military either.

>>144911018
Census, books, studies. Depends on a lot of on what we are looking for. Stuff for uncivs is almost exclusively modern papers.

Population and army numbers can be found on a number of locations. For germany they have very accurate data in "Germany: the spirit of her history, literature, social condition, and national economy, illustrated by reference to her physical, moral, and political statistics, and by comparison with other countries". For economical data Mulhall's Dictionary of Statistics is usually a good measure. If I need something that's common knowledge or pretty widespread, usually wikipedia with/or another encyclopedia does it.
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>frankreich and gross britain both conquered
>netherlands has joined the allies
>netherlands has joined the war
thanks for the free land!
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>>144904174
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>>144911442
HPM was talking of fixing the economy for a long while, the liquor meme started abour one month after his last update and it was made mainly by the discord group and a few members of the steamgroup because they like EU4 MP and wanted stellaris in the thread
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how do i have fun playing hoi4
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>>144910339
just waited 2 years, with the game chugging at low speeds in spite of great computer and SSD. No one attacked japan, but then britain, because it was filling its entire national idea tree, researched "war with italy" and the allies declared on me. WHat shit
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>>144911457
As a Germanboo, thank you for this
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>>144911593
t. Alex Grandi
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>>144911601
by going full alt history
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>>144911593
fuck off HPMIDF
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>>144910929
>implying ussr didnt do all the work for you
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>>144911457
Why would they be anti military? Every party in the Uk was about muh empire
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>>144911867
>>144911715
Case in point
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>>144911593
t. liquor baron
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>>144911543
thanks memer I thought nobody would come through
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>>144912002
No problem goy
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>>144911543
>BYZ-1453
leld
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>>144911457
It seems they were L-F and later they changed to interventionism, so I guess the game isn't that wrong.

>>144911932
I don't know, that's just how it is in vanilla. Anarcho liberals and Communists are pro-military, the liberals are anti.
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>>144911593
>>144911867
hello alex, did you have your daily meal of cement, liquor and energy already?
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how do I cheat to capitulate my enemies, I want to end this game already
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What is the gameplay differences of EU3/4 and HoI 3/4?
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>>144912217
It hsould the other way around imo
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