Previously on /tosg/ : >>144789373
Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H
TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.
>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.
>Can I play the game now?
New players are restricted :
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=430
>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645
>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipedia (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)
>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.
>/tosg/ Guilds info
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Lolipan) - Recruiting
FOE (Jinsae)
Clover (Karga)
Cake (DeliciousCake) - Recruiting
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (Capyba)
NiceBoat (Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (Katzenberg)
I LOVE TALT!
S A D G A M E
klaipedia is dying with the lack of new players.
>let's make a bunch of nice updates and store additions
>and then just not put them on the only version of the game with players
>FP the only /tosg/ guild
>31 members
>even if you counted discord they all moved to ow/dfo leaving their guild on tos dead
>literally only 31 people are playing
>>144832112
/rog/ please.
>Futureproof (Lolipan) - Recruiting
Also, i bet you're the one that made this thread
>>144832112
>/tosg/ relevant
>/vg/ guild relevant on any game they play on
>>144832112
Try to go to meetups next time faggot.
why foe is dead ?
>>144832295
wow it's fucking nothing
>>144831706
Orsha was already dead so I suppose it's unaffected.
Way I see it, when you're at rock bottom the only way is up!
I used most of my cards to get up to this point (lvl 179). I just finished Tyla Monastery and the next group of questing spots are pretty high for my level (188-194). Problem is, All the leveling zones after Dina Bee up till now have abysmal mob generation/respawn. It's like I've been questing in no-man's land for ages, hardly any mobs or anything to kill. Does anyone know anyplace appropriate for me to grind at?
I'm doing my 3x missions, the 175 dungeon isn't really an option for me because of the horrnendous queue times (20-25m +)
I considered grinding at Tyla monastery but the flying mobs are really strong (frozen cloud doesn't hit flying mobs, and they do a truckton of damage so it's pretty hard for me to grind there).
Poor Schwarzer Reiter.
>Retreat shot is really great but requires multiple exploits and tricks to use properly because you outrun the enemies and turning around wastes shots
>More powerful Multishot that you have to stand still to charge up even though you're on a mount, like if Cataphract had to stand still to charge its abilities
>A skill that does less damage than an autoattack on 0CD, also worse than Effigy, a skill from the support tree from 3 ranks earlier. can be used about once per second.
>Another skill you have to stand still to charge up and which does as much damage as that last skill but on a long cooldown and in an AoE
>More powerful Multishot that you have to stand still to charge up. Again.
For Chrono C3, how many points should you invest in Stop/Slow/Backmasking?
>>144832540
Dailies. Do Verkti square quests. Or go Roxona Recon West/East and farm Glyquares. Avoid Colifly Archers tho.
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>>144832885
Best NPC desu
>>144832885
>>144832993
>trying this hard
just accept it, ro is dead as your dreams
>>144832885
>>144832993
>>144833112
>>144324486
>advance to barb
>check attributes
>only dmg enhancement
barbs are the literal retards in this game
>>144833401
But why did you advance to barbarian?
Is there anything to do at Topes Fortress?
What's the Petamion drop rate? I'm getting tired of killing this disgusting bird 9x per day.
>>144833656
Gimmick quests and a chance to get hair costume. No standard questing tho.
>>144832885
>>144832993
Your game is so dead it doesn't even have a general and you need to shill it on another dying general.
>>144832495
OW and other shitgames
Do I main DEX or STR for a Cataphract? Earth Wave/Doom Spike are fake multhits so it seems like DEX might be better?
>>144833401
what did you expect?
some smart scientist barb shit? ur literally cona the barbarian
>>144833592
P-please no bully, at least I took pelt1.Just wanted to try out a swordie after playing so many scholar alts.
>>144834013
DEX definitely.
>>144834079
>some smart scientist barb shit?
my sides
>>144832772
>like if Cataphract had to stand still to charge its abilities
But they had to. It was only changed later, but there's still the difference Cataphract can only move while channeling its own skills. You can't move while channeling Dragontooth, for example.
>>144834109
No, not bullying. I also did the same. Are you me? I'm currently corsair now, and 1 rank in pelt helps a lot. Barb also has huge AoE attacks with Seism and helps clearing mobs quickly. The damage is just abysmal though and you'll feel it when fighting bosses.
>>144834262
I wanted Fencer because my mains got some fancy recipes. But yea, 70 right now and fighting quest bosses feels like a chore. I would have preferred to go haha if it were like kToS instead of the nerfed version here.
>>144834253
So why would they not change the SR skills too
Hell, why can't mounted classes just fucking move while charging / channeling skills? Would that really be so broken, or so hard to implement?
>>144834717
You're doing something wrong, my barb facerolled the game until 170 and I'm 200 fencer now and have yet to see my seism and my cleave falls off now that I got lunge.
>log in to this
Dude, you got issues
You got issues, dude
Dude
You got issues
>tfw losing motivation to play
>>144835217
Just stop playing for a while my god it's a game not a job
>>144835217
just leave anon, hope and hope of games like always ~ nobody is going to remember you anon ~ try something new ~
>really, really great gear all around
>+7 both weapons, max peta, all BiS armor (excluding lolopanther)
>except bracelets
>quest bracelets
>the good ones for me are 8-12m
>it'll never be efficient to buy those over 100%ing attributes or getting more efficient headgear
:|
>>144835578
I really hate how we don't have a mid tier to sissel/gladiators.
Matkattackers have the wizard bracelets, while the others uses quest shit and the 2 BiS demands a retarded 0,0001% droprate item of a monster that has a slow spawn rate and there's only 3 in the map.
Also, the countless battle bracelets that are being sold in the npcs or are trapped inside acounts of lv 50_60 people who played only for a few days.
>>144835024
I wouldn't say it's that bad, bosses just feel more tedious after playing cryokino and pyrolink. I only have 1 in Seism and Helm Chopper right now so my dmg isn't quite there yet, saving points to max Seism and Warcry asap at barb2. I did mess up by spending points in STR instead of DEX during r1 and r2 days though... (39/9/29 invested str/con/dex right now)
Then again, I'm a complete nab at swordies, any pointers are appreciated.
Just made my first Sissel Bracelet
One step closer to having decent gear all around
>>144835189
>3 letters
Its Hat isnt it
>>144836134
I wouldn't be surprised if
>>144835189
is a Chronomancer.
>>144836167
My thoughts exactly.
>>144836167
>>144836234
Is this Hat person the one in this thread with a Chronomancer hardon?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/addons-creators-are-exploiting-and-hacking-tos/292297
RIP Addons.
>>144836282
Yes
>>144835983
Full DEX from now to 210.
It's just DOdge and crits, anon. Dodge and crits!
at 75 get arde+golden falchion or lapis katz, I went falchon route because I'm not highlander to enjoy that extra 50% crit attack.
Fencer builds works better with a 1:3 str/dex ratio or 1:4 with some con to survive magic. you'll dodge most shit with leveled boots + dex evasion and the guardian attribute.
Seism 5 is where the things get interesting, also, cleave is awesome, max it too. Helm chopper is your source of strike damage, look at it with tenderness
>>144836294
>Hes somehow surprised
Who cares? Only fags that used them were the ones desperate for them to do shit that their lazy asses could have done themselves from the start
>>144836294
Why do these fags have to ruin it? I can't play the game without the quest and map addons, it's fucking unplayable.
>>144836294
welp gg
>>144836294
If they remove the betterquest and map-thing, I'll stop playing this shit.
>put stat reset scrolls in the beta
>don't include them in release
>>144836294
rip
>>144837084
>>144836936
>>144836294
>>144836579
That's it. They're purposely killing the game now. Oh that's right! Don't forget to look into more updates on the development of Wolf Knights! Fml
>>144836294
We all knew Excrulon was a scrub, why is this a surprise? Nigga needs to cheat to be gud.
>>144836294
The fucking white knights
>>144830728
>>144830956
Wait so does circling still reduce aoe defense ratio to 0 or not? You misinfo agents stop rusing me ;_;
wait, they're banning addons? or just those hack addons that he created?
>>144836294
Who are these guys trying to impress? Do they think daddy IMC is going to give them free TP? Fuck me, what faggots.
>>144837943
aoe def cannot
>just changed my team name to naruto-kun
fug yes beliebe it
>>144837805
Well, did Excrulon still play the game? He don't even know about Gimmick points from various event post Cranto Coast.
I can live without better betterquest, there's google docs and tosbase for that quit.
The map addon saves you hours of pointless walking though.
>All the girls oogling at me because I'm a boy
Feels kinda good.. makes up for real life
Got dang bronies are buying from my spell shop.
Why hasn't that fad died off already?
>>144836294
Thinking of releasing my instant complete quests addon to fuel
>>144832540
Go to roxona and farm anchors for decent exp and good shekels at the same time.
>>144838398
Do it, let it burn and let the game die once and for all.
>join 175 dungeon
>queue'd with 4 pinoys
>they all talk in their pinoynese language
>barely understood them
>have to reconnect after the first boss because static icons
>"brb guys I'll just reconnect"
>took a smoke, I assumed that they would have went with the dungeon and I'd be back in time for the last boss
>gone for 7 mins
>come back
>they're all in the same spot where I left them
>barely moved an inch, waiting for me.t-they're not so bad guys
>>144836365
Thanks there, I may get Falchion since I already have a maxed awakened arde. I don't have to switch weapon sets either for swashbuckling.
Cannoneer or Musketeer? Everyone says Cannoneer is shit but I don't trust anyone but /tosg/ so which is it?
>>144838452
you are fucking pinnoy stop lying
>>144834782
Because IMC is fucking IMCompetent. Look at falconer C2. Yes I mad and I bet falconer C3 will be complete shit as well like corsair C3.
>>144838356
>those prices
fuck off jew
>>144838537
Musket so you can pretend to be one of the three musketeers
>>144838616
>Jew
You don't realize just how much it costs to buff you.
50% tax straight off the top
plus materials (250, 300 and 500)
My most expensive buff is 1,300, cut that in half and I make 650, take 500 away for materials and I only make 150 silver.
WTS footjobs
t. qt bokor
>>144838687
>three musketeers
>doesn't even use muskets
>>144838537
Musketeer being good is a meme. Cannoneer's are better in PvE, PvP, and GvG.
>>144838570
The real prize for Corsair C3 is Jolly Roger getting enough levels to steal boss cubes.
>>144838779
250, 300 and 500?
What?
>>144838898
This is pre stone skin nerf why does everybody just use this super early picture?
>>144838956
Anon you do know that corsair originally had a skill at c3 that summons a bunch of mobs right?
They removed it because it was too op and helped people level too fast and gain too much shekels from flag + mob summoning.
>>144839026
That was an Oracle skill though
>>144839026
Not the same anon but please tell me more.
Sorc c3 or Sorc c2/Featherfoot c1?
>>144839120
Sorc2Warlock.
>>144839120
Warurakku.
>>144839026
>corsair
>>144839092
I forgot which patch notes it was, sorry anon
http://pastebin.com/jzB7Mwt6
>>144839165
>>144839183
I'm not Wiz c3, what's the point of going Warlock?
>>144839120
>>144839165
>>144839183
>x or y
>z
You people are cancer.
>>144838996
And it hasn't changed at all.
>>144839287
Dark Theurge still is decent damage despite not having QC buff.
>>144839292
(You)
>>144832993
this meme still exists after all this time, i laughed.
>>144838256
What happened?
>>144838996
Doesn't make it any less relevant.
This is today's rankings.
>>144839287
What's the point in going Featherfoot if you don't have Wiz3 ? Fucking retard
>>144839627
>Wizard
Really makes you wonder
>>144839630
>ff
>wiz 3
Fucking retard
>>144838779
>jew trying to justify his jewish practices
>>144839883
hes lying about the costs too as expected of a jew
>>144838779
>30% profit rate is low
Please
>>144839978
How am I lying? I might have gotten one material wrong, I'm not sure, but the other two are 300 and 500.
It takes 10 of the materials for the spell shop, not 1.
would it be worth getting a bunch of alt up to 50 for talt or does it drop more in the 90 instance.
and in that line of thought whats a fun archer build that includes scout because dat master/outfit
>>144840150
Archer2ranger
>>144839824
>He doesn't even know FF skills
Yeah youre retarded for sure
>hunter skill icons
>all except 1 show a velheider
>growling shows a dog instead
Explain this.
>>144836294
So the cunt never actually use those addons and just yell OMG HAX because he thinks it is. Retarded as fuck.
>>144840050
You need fucking 10?
Wow you pardoners actually make jack shit than, maybe 100-200k at best a day if you need 10 materials each buff.
>>144840459
>100k a day
>while not playing
worth it
>>144839627
>musket
>0 cannons
Explain to me how this ISN'T relevant? Cannoneer is ass.
>>144840610
My necro makes that in an hour anon.
Maybe thats warped my perception a bit but 100k for a whole day afk is jack shit
>>144840664
You guys know nothing about statistics. Neither do I btw
I'm going full Strength Archer C3 Wugushi Cannoneer and no one's going to stop me!
>>144839824
>knows ff skills
>still picks ff after wiz 3
Fucking retard
>>144840687
>while not playing
Here's the keypoint. If you actually care about silver you would be playing. Or buy it from chink sellers.
>>144836294
how is this rip addons, this wont stop shit all they have to do is add more checks for certain requests.
>>144840915
But necro aren't playing either anon, we're afk too.
Outside occasional repair costs because some faggot killed us, we afk better than pardoners if the guy was telling the truth about his costs
>wake up
>time to play ToS
>open Steam
>open ToS
>Steam not responding
>End task, open Steam again
>open ToS
>ToS updater not responding
>end task, open ToS again
>enter character selection
>enter server
>loading screen
>for a whole 10 minutes
>end task, restart ToS again
>enter game
>shout message stuck bug
>restart client
>shout message stuck bug again
>restart client one more time
>no more shout bug
>go to the kitchen to grab a drink
>come back, move character an inch
>VGA error
>>144841063
Might as well buy silver with all the electricity fees for leaving your computer on.
>>144841063
No you don't. A Pardoner doesn't need the game active, and the Pardoner can play a different character on the same account
>>144838356
I know who you are. :^)
>>144841261
You can literally make millions afking with a Necro. With a Pardoner this is close to impossible because of all the competition.
>>144841571
>we afk better
>No you don't, here's why
>YOU CAN MAKE MILLIONS
That is not how you argue. Necromancers do not afk better than any class that can literally close the game and still function. Necromancers only actually get the silver they get from afk farming because your maps are simply uncontested as a result of the population literally plummeting. Had it not been, Dina Bee would be contested simply by the players actually wanting to grind bees.
>>144841571
I make about 300k a day having my pard sit in klaipeda ch1 with lv16 buffs. All I do is log on it for a couple seconds every 5 or so hours to check reagents and the competition so I can lower my price a bit if they happen to undercut.
It's easy money and I can be productive leveling on my other characters
How do you actually afk as a necro? I've tried, but my skeletons die fast, then after my skeletons, my durability. I end up dying pretty fast once my durability goes.
Shoggoth is ass and can't get them off of me fast enough.
>>144841710
What the fuck are you even on about? Stop trying to avoid the argument. AFK = Away from keyboard, means you do NOTHING. How is having ToS open preventing you from afking again? It doesn't, you moron. The fact is that Necromancers make more profit than pardoners by not actively playing the game. Which is why we come to the conclusion that Necromancers AFK better, retard.
>>144841809
do you actually make 300k profit, or just 300k silver? because 300k silver isn't much when you take into account how much you're taxed and the material costs.
>>144841929
Basically his point is that you can play other characters whilst still making shekels with a pardoner (it doesn't matter as a necro still earns more) and the electricity bill charges (which is actually a valid point).
Hes also saying that the only reason necros aren't contested like pardoners are because the server is ded which ironically enough works both ways
Really the only valid point made is about electricity bill charges
>>144841995
Profit. I usually burn through about 1.2~1.5k reagents a day as long as i dont get fucked by someone undercutting me the second I switch character and forget to check back, more on the weekends.
>>144842087
>because the server is ded which ironically enough works both ways
It doesn't work both ways. With more of a population, a Necromancer's maps are more contested. With more of a population, you may get some more Pardoners but, more importantly, a Pardoner gets more customers. A Necromancer does not.
>>144842182
>what is undercutting
Fuck it's so hard to resist the urge to spend my 550 TP on enchant scrolls all at once.
>>144842250
How many players do you believe will go through the entire progression to get a Pardoner to idle on while they can also do similar through Squire and Alchemist? Spell Shop is C2, not C1. In contrast, how many contestants do you think Necromancer receives on a highly populated server? Dina Bee is grinded anywhere from 150 to 170, while people higher still go there for silver. A Pardoner can station themselves wherever it's a safe spot/statue. I just said you get more Pardoners, yes, but more importantly, the higher the population the more customers any of the three crafting classes receives. Necromancers literally only lose out the more active the server is. Pardoners get undercutters but also more customers and through the various maps. This general alone promotes buying Pardoner buffs to level alts with. The less active the server, the more Pardoners suffer while afk combat classes thrive by lack of map competition. The more active the server, the more people will buy buffs in Demon Prison, Mercenary Post, Dina Bee, Lepusbunny Territory, cities and outside dungeon entrances. The less active, the more undercutters actually cause a problem because the number of active spots to even sell buffs is more limited, the competition is more restricted. When was the last time you saw Pardoners in Dina Bee? Who would they be selling to there? The afk, non-contested macro Sorcerers and afk Necromancers? They're so contested because there is no variety in active locations.
>>144839627
>Dat Rogue C3
Absolute madman.
Probably a lachrymator 15 build with party members that have lock down.
What do people mean when they say that Rank 7 is faster than Rank 6?
>>144842250
You can only undercut up to a certain point before it starts making you a net loss of silver
RIP ADDONS
I guess this was the final blow for me to quit this game.
>>144842406
Rank 5 is the horribly slow grind of either bees or repeated boring trips into the 145 dungeon + all those fucking maps including Grand Corridor
rank 6 to rank 7 is literally go to truffles for 20 hours and you're good to fucking go fampai
>>144842182
I don't know, perfect competition is going to drive that gross revenue very near to total costs.
I wouldn't be surprised if a Pardoner made less than 10 Silver per buff in a high-pop server. Sure, they're going to sell more buffs, but that just means more work for less reward, since you have to refill reagents more often, and you're more likely to be bumped out of your spot.
Of course I doubt TOS's consumers are very discerning, so maybe you could get away with 100 Silver profits just because you were the first shop they clicked. Advertising in shop names would probably reduce the effect of that, though.
>>144842645
so rank 6 -7 is a breeze compared to 5-6?
>>144842706
it's extremely straight forward yes, also being rank 6 is generally fun because rank 6 classes are great and you get access to the 170 orange meme weapons
usually at rank 5 is when your build still kind of sucks
>>144842756
thanks anon.
whats the bet way to get orange weps?
>>144842706
Yes. Everyone suffers around rank 5. Even more if their class sucks before rank 6-7.
Rank 5 and its horrible progress is why people say you should save LV7-8 cards.
>>144842598
>havent quit already
Sasuga cuck senpai
>>144842756
>>144842905
so the leveling from 175-230 (rank 7) is easier compared to the wall?
>>144842821
it depends on what class you are but usually the orange items are dungeon drops so you either run the 190 dungeon or the 200 dungeon depending on what you are
Then if you get stuff you dont want, you just trade it for other oranges.
What's your circles?
>>144842821
Depends on your build. Most of them are rare cube drops (catacombs, magas, meme-meme), or even rare monster drops( brandish, venier)
>>144842649
>More likely to get bumped out of your spot
In what sense are you more likely to get bumped out of a variety than the present limited range you have?
When highly populated, Demon Prison District 2, Second Demon Prison and Dina Bee are all active grinding spots. On a dead server, they're literally only inhabited by people earning silver. To sell buffs on a Pardoner on a dead server, you need to go where the population actually goes. If this is a low variety, you'll have more prominent competition, undercutting is more of a problem because it's direct competition. When the only dungeons you can sell Pardoner buffs for are 90, 130 and 200 because they're the only ones people run for Arde Dagger, Peta and Manamana/Catacombs Club, that alone is a lack of variety. Especially when those dungeons are also pretty quiet later into the day because everyone rushes them after the reset.
On a dead server, there is no variety at all, you have multiple Pardoners to compete with simply because no one has a choice. Not a ton of people who look at Pardoner will prefer it to Squire or Alchemist. Simony is the "Pardoner gets build variety" option, not Spell Shop. Spell Shop essentially forces you to take Priest 3 and Pardoner 2. That's more restrictive than the other two options.
>>144842963
it's easier because so many builds come online at rank 6 as opposed to rank 5 where you might still be putting things together and there's literally only one spot you grind and that's at truffles, you can card straight to there since the exp resets at 186.
For example Chronomancers get haste at rank 6 which lets me run sonic fast.
EleC3 finally get meme cloud, Cata C3 get rush, Archers do archer things etc
>>144842976
>>144843203
am i fucked?
Sword>pelt>barb3>dop
Token prices have fallen to 560k and have stabilized somewhat on Varena.
Should I buy now before it rises up again?
Fuck it's so hard to resist the urge to spend my 550 TP on enchant scrolls all at once.
>>144843317
You can literally, literally get to r7 naked no matter what your class is. Leveling in this game is a joke specially when you get parties carrying anyone because of the lack of players.
>>144843317
No you're fine, just go for Doppel C2 orTemplarafter and you're fine. When you go Alemeth, just grab a shield and use swashbuckling all day long.
Under all those AOE effects is a peltasa mobbing everything for us.
The orange weapon you want to eventually get is a Magi 2 handed sword since thats probably the best weapon you can get for your build. It drops in the 190 dungeon.
>>144843317
Cyclone is quite good
>>144843464
>>144843491
i thought of going for Goon for the costume.
should i?
thanks anon
>>144843317
You have pelt which is the only purpose of swordies lategame anyways (you're literally an 50% exp tome + swash slave), you're fine.
>>144843401
They're probably going to lower a bit more as some people havn't spent their free fp yet but will rise up within the week.
The main issue right now is no new players meaning no new people needing tokens (since everyones tokens that have been bought are still active as within 1 month) so the prices should technically fall but you never know.
Best to buy now whilst you can afford it
>>144843409
Try having 890 and still waiting to buy enchant scrolls once per day with free tp
>>144843594
no thats an awful awful idea, don't do that. You went the sword doppel route already, the dragoon route is hoplite c3/c2 Corsair doppel dragoon
>>144843641
can you please tell me why its an awful idea? i still havent planned that far and only wanted goon for the armor
>>144843594
>goon
Replace barb3 with hoplite3 then doppel->goon
Unless you already go barb3 then you have to be either doppel2 or fencer2 to be viable.
>>144843594
Your only choices for endgame are doppel c2 or templar anon.
You shoulda took hoplite if you wanted dragoon.
>>144843491
Nulis is a lot better for grinding parties because of the AoE ratio.
>>144843692
Because goon use spears. And only classes that use spears EFFECTIVELY before rank 7 are hoplite and cataphrac.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/addons-creators-are-exploiting-and-hacking-tos/292297/42
>>144844230
yes but couldnt I just use a spear then?
all barb and doppel c1 skills are universal anyways
>>144844357
Well
Time to quit for good if they kill addons
>>144844362
But you do understand hoplite gives spear users +150 crit rate and +80% spear damage right?
I mean you can still go goon its just you will be subpar compared to other goons.
As long as you don't care about min max than costume collect away
>>144836579
>I need muh advantages whaaa whaa
>I can't play games without muh advantages
>I need the advantages
You drug yourself with addons and mods on a daily basis in every game?
>>144844357
ITS OVER
DEAD GAME
>>144844471
thanks mate, what about Templar, what would it offer?
>>144844357
I hope the understand that if addons are bannable that a good part of the community will be quitting.
>>144844485
>I like purposely gimping myself and torturing myself
>>144844607
Templar lets you make a guild which lets you become an attention whore, that's about it
>>144844607
Templar is the "I fucked up so might as well make myself somewhat useful" class
Only go it if you're going to reroll into something else on your alt
>>144844607
The power to teleport to members and summon members for various purposes.
The costume's great.
>>144844713
>>144844741
so its doppel c2 then! thanks anon
I've fiddled around with the build simulator and come up with a cc icemage. http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/w0ip8ie3nd/
My thinking was that I could gather enemies with magnetic force and ice tree and then damage them with ice pike, icewall and psychic pressure, snow rolling or whatever. Rune caster for the ice rune and a bit of support in the form of rune of giants. Also lethargy and ice shield for support.
Since I haven't actually played the game, this might be complete rubbish. It is my first build after all.
>>144844542
SHUT UP
STILL ON TOP 20
>>144844868
It has fucking 13k ingame right now, at least post updated images
>>144844868
>pinoys and br
It's over anon, it's dead.
>>144844846
I can't tell if its bait or not but cyro3kino3 is the standard cookie cutter pvp build
>>144844868
>13k players after F2p
ohgod
>>144844919
I JUST picked the fukin stats cunt
>>144844741
No, that is Squire. Templars are usually attwhores.
>>144844357
At least he hasn't already banned all addon users for permanent duration.
>>144844868
>>144844989
It can't even beat Fallout 4.
>>144844357
Nice, I really hope that they ban all addons, so I will have an excuse to quit his game forever. Thanks White Knights.
>>144844868
This is honestly not bad. When fucking TF2 has less than 5 times as many players as you, you aren't doing badly.
>>144845147
TF2 is a dead game senpai, Overwatch killed it
>>144843709
>>144843703
>>144843641
In what way does that build conflict with dragoon?
>>144845041
>>144844713
>can someone make a guild on Klaipeda/Fedimia/Telsiai/Varena/Orsha? We need a guild
>"I'll do it! I'm already rank 7 now!"
>fuck off attention whore
???????????????????
>>144844639
>I like ruining what gaming is about
>I like as many cheats as I can get
>I inject cheats, mods and every advantage possible in my bloodstream
You're one of those guys who used Game Genie to play his cartridge games, had to go on gamefaqs to solve puzzles, and has to get mods/addons to live nowadays.
Please go outside and never come back. You and your peers ruin the fun of playing videogames.
TL;DR go back to real life and never come back
>>144845146
>white knights
More like Wolf Knightsamirite?:^)
>>144845212
because by going Barbarian you lose Finestra and Spear Lunge for nothing better in return
>>144845264
Fuck off Reddit
>>144844357
>self-publish internationally
>still think and operate like outdated gook mmo company
We're waiting for you warmly on WOLFKNIGHTS Online, anon.
>>144845147
>When fucking TF2 has less than 5 times as many players as you, you aren't doing badly.
>Tired of competing with an MMORPG of 2002 that still gets content updates and has a decent playerbase, ToS players now are satisfied with having one fifth of a population of a game from 2007.
>>144845348
Fuck off normie
>>144845296
Assuming the guy is already at the point, there isn't nothing wrong with going dragoon. Even if he wasn't, there wouldn't be. I swear, all you fags do is play cookie cutters because you're too afraid of truth ng different things
>>144844939
I guess you are right. I didn't realize I was basically just slightly altering that build.
>>144845348
fuck off 4chan
>>144845348
>>144845375
>>144845486
FUCK OFF DISCORD
>>144845529
FUCK OFF 4CHAN
>>144845368
Not to mention TF2 is still making money.
>>144845368
>a game from 2007
A game from 2007 which is still in the top 4 most played Steam games.
>>144845264
>cheats
Addons literally just fix and or add things that the game should already have
IMC can't fix their own game so people have to do it themselves
It's your problem if you enjoy eating shit.
>>144845654
>difference from 1 to 2 is 402k
>from 2 to 3 is 236k
>from 3 to 4 is 5k
How cute anon.
>>144845264
>neo jp kancolle poster typing words, shouldn't you be shipping ships and buying into marketing, while grinding in your garbage phone game?
>>144845662
The game is meant to be shit by the dev design, you're ruining the experience by improving things.
>>144845264
By ruining what the game is about you mean keeping several tabs open from the wiki to see which items is from a collection so I don't sell it by mistake? Or telling the music that is playing right now? Or showing how much much exp I earned or where I do have quests to do?
I think you're right, addons are doing something pretty bad that is keeping me playing this shit game.
>>144845264
>being this autistic
>muh nostalgia
>muh purity
>muh gaming
Go play single player games, you wank.
Question, does Cataphract Earth Wave deal both bonus damage because it is Strike and with the attribute, Earth damage? (meaning Lightning+Plate enemy would take more damage)
>>144845662
>add things that the game should already have
>all games need to have Exp. Calculator in game
>all games need to have red zones on maps so I know where to go to do my exploration because I can't figure it out myself
>etc,
What the fuck? No game should have those things integrated in them.
If you want fixes why stop there? Why not integrated botting features like auto-path, auto-potion and auto-skill?
Think about it: if bots are botting and players are botting then the real bots don't have an advantage over players anymore.
>>144846083
>I like being a normie
>>>Real Life
>>144846163
Yes.
>>144845264
Who are you quoting?
>>144846315
Coolio, wondering why there aren't many weapon type elemental abilities.
>>144846378
cause IMC is bad at game design
>>144846287
calm down anon. this game is really hard/difficult. there is almost no handholding and spoonfeeding in this spiritual RO successor. modern gamer gods cant deal with anything on there own and badly need these things.
talking with NPCs to find quests? HOLY GODDAMNIT FUCK ! THIS IS WAY TO HARD FOR ME ! PLEASE BABYJESUS HELP !
>>144846287
>Why not integrated botting features like auto-path, auto-potion and auto-skill?
Funny you said that because some games actually have it.
Hardcore for the sake of it is just oxymoron. You keep everything as easy and intuitive as possible mechanic wise. The hardcore part comes from gameplay and meta, not hassle UI and shitty restriction.
>>144846287
if you're playing bad korean games for reasons outside of breaking them completely and doing dumb shit you may need to rethink life, because its been that way since ragnarok online.
>people honest to god think Sadhu OOB deals three hits
Have people even booted this game? Downloaded it? Added to their steam accounts? Heard about it?
>>144846287
>>144846287
You ever tried exploring without the red fog of war? I have. It's literally dozens of maps of 99% explored, never 100% because I didn't explore a specific inch of a map that I would not be able to see without the add-on. You tell me, how is this exactly fun?
>>144846643
Fuck off Karen. You aren't even real britbong.
>>144845918
>keeping several tabs open from the wiki to see which items is from a collection so I don't sell it by mistake?
Why would you first go to the npc to sel items before you go to the collection npc?
>>144846669
i did. playing without addons every day. i 100% most maps without big problems.
are you bad or lazy or something? there is no need for any addons.
>>144846287
>dissing map fog
See, I'd agree with you, but unfortunately I actually played the game, and once again, unfortunately seen that the devs coded the map splicing algorithm so badly that areas that tangentially touches the map will be considered as unexplored, while not displaying any information on that.
>j-just hug the wall!
Doesn't work if you're trying to play normally rather than pretend to be a house-mapping sweep robot. Saying it's OK because you can burden yourself to play someway else to fix it is like saying the game is hard because you can play without equipment and without stats/skills.
>>144846753
If you ever look and try using collection UI you will know why people avoid it. It's fucking horrible and clunky as shit.
>>144846669
I do and never had a problem. Kids are so dumb they can't even walk near a wall these days.
>>144846846
Again, try actually playing the game. Because I'm pretty sure you don't.
>it's a triggered forumfags come to raid /tosg/
>>144846669
>>144846812
I have most of my maps explored to 100% without using addons. The rest are maps with minigames or special quests.
I had no problems with it. Maybe because I don't use anything to spoil where collection boxes are so I'm constantly searching for hidden places where it could be.
>>144846846
How is them using addons hindering your experience then? Nor does it give them an advantage. You're literally whining about nothing, don't like addons don't use them. I bet your the type of insufferable faggot that stuffs his opinions down his mums throat because he doesn't have friends or the courage to do it to real life strangers.
>>144847012
>game is fine with bad systems gitgud works on my machine
thank u
imcshill
where wud we
b withot u
>>144847016
I was not even him. I just saw the post and tell you the fog addon is a useless one if you actually like to explore a map.
>this game is shit
>here are some add-ons to make this game less shit
>fuck you I want to play a pure vanilla game with no add-ons!
>this game is shit, I'm quitting
It's like you want the game to die.
>>144847012
>defending bad mechanic
I would agree if doing 100% map is just stupid achievement thing. But not when it gives XP.
>>144847120
The fog addon is just useful if you like exploring the map, it is useless if you sweep wall hugging, though.
Might want to correct that, else people will point out how retarded you sound.
>>144846669
>>144846785
>>144846846
>>144846985
>>144847012
>>other fags
http://imgur.com/a/KXV6q
no addons. didnt take long. no "hard" maps.
i didnt bother with some maps as they are to low for me or i do them later. not giving a fuck about "100% all"
but there is literally no need for fog addons.
>>144847453
Run through several alts and then tell me that. I explored and read everything on my first character but doing it again is suffering especially if you miss that .4% of a map
>>144847453
Try having more than one character. It's unnecessarily tedious if you don't want to grind mobs.
11 more levels to go!
>>144847695
>>144847789
>playing this game with more than one character
There's literally no replay value unless you really want to test class combinations
>>144847695
>Run through several alts
i have a alt. not doing any low lvl maps cause there is no need. it lvls faster and im not even doing orsha side quests.
>read everything on my first character
lmao
>several alts
you use the map hack for them? knowing where the red fog is when you already did a map a few times isnt a big help
>>144847789
>>144847887
@fags
>excuses why i NEED addons
>excuses why i NEED addons
>excuses why i NEED addons
i'd say "git gud" but i guess "be less fucking shit" is more appropriate
>>144847873
>not making one character for pve, one for pvp and one for jewing
We get it, you're a casual shitter.
>entirely subjective arguments about whether or not people are just lazy
for fuck's sake can we go back to posting ohayous this shit is so boring there's literally no way to win this argument and no mathematical basis for any side's opinion
>>144846287
The problem with map exploration is that you end up with 99% and then the 1% is in some stupid fucking place that's not even ON the map, so yes, it needs fixing, when they fix it, I'll stop using the addon that lets me see what tiny portion of offscreen fog I missed.
>Exp. Calculator
Most games have this, it's called LETTING YOU SEE THE EXP NUMBERS ON YOUR EXP BAR AND FROM MOBS.
Retard.
>>144847873
The game restricts how much you can play it with daily lock outs, so even if you just really like a single build and are content only ever playing that you will never get anywhere remotely as much done as someone with multiple characters.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO EAT YOUR STEAK WITH BARBEQUE SAUCE, YOU EAT YOUR STEAK WITH BARBEQUE SAUCE
IF YOU THINK BARBEQUE SAUCE IS DISGUSTING, DO NOT EAT YOUR STEAK WITH BARBEQUE SAUCE
Fuck all of you, seriously. Just play the fucking game.
