Even more cars coming soon edition
>Crews for GTA:O
Join a crew by clicking link below, then posting your SC name and crew you want to join in the thread.
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/crew/pc_gtag (PC only)
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/crew/gtag_vg_-_ps4 (PS4 only)
http://socialclub.rockstargames.com/crew/gta_general_vg (all)
Other crews: http://pastebin.com/GtsCr3VL
>Steam Group - No heterosexuals allowed
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gtagonlinevg
>PS4 Community - GTAG VG Community (No heterosexuals allowed here either)
To join the community, search the community name in "Discover Communities" and leave a request.
>Thread archive
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/subject/gtag/type/op/
>GTA:O Unlocks by Rank
http://pastebin.com/bAr3Q5sT
>Helpful information for new players
http://pastebin.com/XEzpG0vB
>Lap time comparison for every fully upgraded GTA:O vehicle
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nQND3ikiLzS3Ij9kuV-rVkRtoYetb79c52JWyafb4m4
>Graphics settings guides for GTA V
http://www.gamersnexus.net/game-bench/1909-gta-v-graphics-optimization-guide
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/grand-theft-auto-v-pc-graphics-and-performance-guide
>Patch notes for 1.34
http://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/articles/220249028
>>144755971
the back looks odd, more pics?
>1.5M for a feature that should be there from the beginning
reposting because I got no answer
>I understand the safe addon does nothing, right? is it at least full when you have an X amount of dosh on you or in the bank?
>are the warehouse vehicle upgrades permanent? ie: if an upgraded truck is destroyed during an activity you don't have to buy or upgrade it again?
>how do you buy a warehouse, how many are there, how much do they cost?
thanks for btfoing oxolor, you guys are the best
>the only thing i look forward to is playing dress up
save me
>>144755971
SpeedRacist need gtag invite accept thing because apparently the gtag I'm in is the wrong one
>>144755971
>All VIPs / CEOs will now have the option to invite “Rivals” to their Organization. This allows players to send Organization invites to existing CEOs, VIPs, Associates, and Bodyguards.
wew
>tfw no skiddies
>>144756145
>>I understand the safe addon does nothing, right? is it at least full when you have an X amount of dosh on you or in the bank?
In the bank
>>are the warehouse vehicle upgrades permanent? ie: if an upgraded truck is destroyed during an activity you don't have to buy or upgrade it again?
Yes
>>how do you buy a warehouse, how many are there, how much do they cost?
Did you even fucking try the update?
>>144756145
Safe fills up full at 10 million, overflows at 35million. Warehouse is permanent. Buy warehouses in your special computer in your office.
>>144756097
several pics for the hidden cars in here
http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/gta-v-new-prototype-vehicle-from-finance-felony-update.1520205/
there's a Lotus/918, a One77 and a weird prototype thingy
>>144756205
Gotcha
>>144756182
same here
>>144756289
thanks man
>one77
my dick, oh dear
What's best car and why is it the Bravado Buffalo S?
>>144756256
>Did you even fucking try the update?
well obviously not, and I won't be able to for a couple of days
thanks for the answers though
>>144756268
>safe overflows
jesus christ
do NOT buy any decor when you purchase your office, you can preview it on-site in the same way you can custom apartments at no additional cost
>>144755971
>2 players can get into the same bed now
O-oh my
>>144756289
That super car is fucking hideous which means it's going to be the fastest car and everyone will buy it.
>>144755971
Post your CEOs, /gtag/.
And remember:
Look them in the eye and give them a firm handshake.I will never figure out why my screenshots look like shit even with my settings maxed.
>>144756653
good
the others look nice
So, can we store any more vehicles or nah?
>>144756651
>now
I was doing that on PS3
What does the cheapest office get you, or more importantly, not get you?
>>144756289
>stunt themed vehicles
>bunch of supers
Reeee
>>144755971
That's definitely not a super.
Looks like a hopefully competitive addition to the sports class.
Is there a new ban wave?
>>144756918
there's no difference between the offices
>>144756696
>a man in a suit
SO CREATIVE AND ORIGINAL, THANK YOU FOR POSTING
>>144756382
>tfw no shemagh available as accessory
>>144757008
yes
>>144756918
For seven figures you get to store your guns and clean up your weapon wheel.
And yes, you have to buy the office to ba able to do that.
Nevermind that there's a weapon rack in the planning room of your safehouse, oh no. You're grinding missions or coughing up a shark card if you want a quality of life update that should have been in the game from the start and be available to everyone.
Yes I mad. And poor. I was saving up for a car, dammit.
>>144756918
Location
That's about it
>>144756220
Except for pea being a bitch and somehow having a menu already and ruining the fun for everyone.
>>144755971
oy accept my crew request
t. bigdave
>>144757185
I made the error of buying the new fancy heli (forget the name now) before realising how much offices and warehouses were.
RIP me.
>>144757280
Gotcha
>cargobob is nearly 2 mil
>bought mine for 185k
Has anyone with the glitchbob from way back when checked to see if they still have it?
>>144757356
thanks brah
>>144757047
I don't know about you son, but if you want to get anywhere in the company you're gonna need to dress a bit more respectably. Back in my day we couldn't just show up to the boardroom wearing whatever we wanted. All these young bucks tying to run their companies while they're dressed like a bunch of bearded hobos these days could learn a thing or two from their elders.
>>144757390
Still got it
what the fuck
>>144757482
>>144755971
Can I rejoin? It seems i was purged some time ago.
PavoolonD
>in order to get any cargo you need to lay down the cash first
>the way to disrupt people getting cargo is explosions
I can already see this being extremely fun and not at all frustrating when I'm putting down 18k only for all of the cargo I'm after to be blown to bits by xiaopingsheng131318.
>>144757675
Man what's up your ass, what happened to trying to have a little fun
>>144756182
I know that feel.
>gun safe is real
THEY FUCKING DID IT YOU SAID THEY NEVER WOUOD BUT HERE WE ARE
Anyway, does it changed appearance depending on what's in it? Or is it just a simple scroll menu? Also, do tints/attachments stay equipped when stored?
>>144757606
is there any hidden benefit of it, or is it just a expensive pile of junk?
>>144757903
hey claire
>>144758001
Hello Mark.
>>144756696
are you using steam? uncompressed?
>>144757997
it's fun as fuck to drive around and have guys on the boat be able to walk around but if you're a guy that only wants performance and utility it's not worth it
r8 my org
Why is my female character's assistanfu hotter than my male's? Is it because I chose a different decor for the offices?
>>144757903
>>144758083
this isn't just your average everyday avatarfagging
this is ADVANCED avatarfagging
>>144756696
Best CEO right here
maybe the font should be changed, but this feels pretty great
mein nigger
>>144757970
plain menu
also it's kind of half-assed, can't even hide the default pistol or non-purchasable melees like the golf club
being able to get in a car and shoot the ap pistol right off the bat is nice though
Guys, is it easy to make money this patch? Is it worth starting out with the 1m one with no upgrades? Can I upgrade it later on? Can I switch it out for the 4m one later?
>>144757675
Oh I'm so sorry, I didn't realize you were differently abled. I'll wear something more vibrant next time, perhaps the bright colors will soothe you.
>>144758108
Steam, yes. But the compression settings don't seem to affect it. And it only happens with GTAV.
Someone explain what the fuck warehouses are and what's the advantage to buying an expensive one compared to a cheap one?
>>144758381
Ah well, it's better than the mess that we had before. I don't mind carrying all the meele ones since they only ever get used to beat on people's cars
>>144758594
Literally read what they say
>>144758594
cargo capacity
position
>>144758434
Help me out faggots I need to decide if i buy this quick
Is the HVY Brickade RPG-proof?
If so, how many rockets can it take?
Any new yacht customizations?
>>144758434
I'm in the same position. Would love to get the buzzard.
>>144758662
They don't explain shit. Spoonfeed me the info I seek or don't even respond, I'm not in the mood for the bantz.
I logged into the computer and my assistant is telling me I can get warehouses. I see some are in shitty spots, others aren't. They're all different sizes and prices but I see nothing that suggests spending 2.1M for a 111 space warehouse is a better investment than 400k for like 16 or whatever. I don't know how this shit works, it's brand new and I just got into the office aspect.
Now can someone actually help?
>>144758793
Blows up with one rocket hit
>>144758932
The more expensive ones on the outside of the city accumulate crates automatically.
>>144758735
But am I wasting money buying a bigger warehouse or what?
I'm in a lobby by myself right now too I just realized..
>>144758932
Nigga bigger storage means more crates means you can sell more shit at once and make more money off of larger hauls.
>>144758743
The new shit you can buy is all cool but it'll take you some time to get your money back.
>>144758327
Neat, she changes outfits.
>>144759047
if you buy the cheapest warehouse you can make more than enough money to upgrade
you can have 5 warehouses anyway
>>144759015
So buying West Vinewood Backlot for 2.1M would actually be a good idea?
good update rockstar
>>144759006
What fug?! That's bullshit. And it's coming from the same company as HVY.
I was expecting this vehicle to be max explosion proof to actually be protected from jet shitters.
Can we kick Pea for being a skiddie and ruining shit already?
>>144759185
Which location did you pick?
who else here /bannedanddonthaveafuckingcluewhy/
>>144759083
>Implying I knew anything about this brand new update I'm playing for the very first time and asking questions about
It's almost like I didn't know what the fuck we were supposed to do! Wait..
>>144759321
I chose Maze Bank, the most expensive one.
I am probably about to change it given the window view sucks.
>>144759339
Could've maybe read the thread or newswire or something you colossal fuck.
>>144759309
>doing a stock mission to grab some medicinal supplies or some shit
>pea just swoops in via teleport and ends the mission then and there
i second this, can we kick pea, it hasnt even been 24 hours and the update is already ruined
>>144759324
you didn't buy shark cards
there's why
>>144759203
I'm rich but I don't like to throw money around like a nigger either, I figure buying 1 large warehouse will suffice which is what I did.
>>144759339
Read IGN's article on it. More detailed!
They say there's homing missile jamming system on the new plane, but only co-pilot can activate it.
>>144759404
Why the fuck would I do that when it was easier to just ask and get the info explained? Why did you feel the need to post? Just slit your wrists in a bathtub holy shit, you're worthless.
>>144755971
>Two players can now get into beds in GTA Online.
Knowing this general, I feel like this is gonna be something you guys would actually like.
over a year and this is my first time seeing this car online, and it's placed by R*.
i do like how they're using different cars, i just got ambushed by a stickup crew who had unarmored kurumas when i went to grab some cargo
>>144759646
>Why the fuck would I do that when it was easier to just ask and get the info explained?
Because it's not? Now you have people not explaining and straight up bullshitting you. I'd say just reading a reliable source is easier.
can you use someones else gun rack, or you need to spend the shekels or are stuck with vintage pistol forever?
>>144759457
Have some oc for shark cards
>>144759438
Higgus pls
>>144759681
That's been in the game since launch.
>>144755971
>Fixed an issue that caused the Flight School leader to explode when the player is playing in first person.
What the fuck
hey goys, can this be a meme?
>>144759861
not higgus, you cheating cuck
i'm chicken, was going to ask for an invite to crew but now im having second thoughts
Are the warehouses open or closed?
Closed meaning that there's an animation and no one can bother you.
Open meaning anyone can go in inside.
How often is it attacked by enemy NPC?
Can you upgrade/switch offices after buying?
>>144760149
Yes
>>144754087
sounds good, anon
i love hearing what people do/their thoughts on stuff - the good and bad.
>>144754739
there will still be ppl around anon, dont worry c:
>>144759728
Except the information I got was more than enough, my questions were answered. I wasn't looking for an in-depth fucking guide you mongoloid, just wanted to know if buying the larger warehouse was a good investment or not.
Learn to fucking read.
>>144760051
literally who
>>144759745
you're stuck with it forever if you ever do a job or hiest. storing guns only works in freemode
>>144760309
and keep it that way, skiddy whore
Selling shit sucks if you don't have a full contingent of associates.
>tugboat costs 1,250,000 $
Can you finally buy the tacticool vest in pic related?
You can disable your gun locker loadout in the interaction menu if for some reason you ever really need the vintage pistol.
>>144760364
thanks for the info
I was considering dropping that 1.5mil just for that feature, but now see no point whatsoever
>>144760251
I have thoughts on the warehouses and all that bullshit.
I think it's ridiculous how much up front money you have to shell out. Then you have to buy the fucking goods which is annoying. And then the dealer can just fucking rip you off so it becomes a game every time of find your shit, then you gotta drive across the map in some shitwagon while everyone in the lobby tries to assrape you unless you're playing alone like I have been.
In short, it's literally a grinding method that makes you pay 5M+ up front before you can even make anything back. You're 5M in the hole before you even make your first shipment, it's fucking gay.
>>144760525
Yeah, people can still just pop out of passive with a jet and blast you out of the air. Next time I'm doing a sale I'm just gonna get myself an empty public session and have it done with before shitters have time to join
>>144760537
>all that clipping
why would you want it?
>>144760657
Ok ;_;
>Decide to go to bed and see the update the next day
>Wake up, download update & start GTAO
>"Unable to load saved data for Character 2. the Rockstar cloud servers are unavailable right now. Please try again later."
To be expected of the masters of incompetency.
>>144760527
>placeholder tugboat description
If its invincible and you can easily walk around on it while its moving it may not be completly useless.
>>144760717
Can't do em in a private sesh?
>>144760836
I believe it's all in public sessions. You get bonuses for more players in the session.
>300k for upgrading one of the delivery vehicles
>Jet shitters can still explode them in 2 hits
>>144760827
it blows up and sinks from one RPG hit.
>>144760827
>If its invincible
>He doesn't know
>>144756484
The one where you go on call for race, view decor, and then quit?
>>144758161
triggered
>>144760827
When can I expect a reply
who here /rockstarservicesunavailablerightnow/?
>>144760920
Jets should not be in this game at all. There's just nothing in freemode that can counter them except another jet. The ablity to shit out an infinite amount of them in the middle of a city in passive mode doesn't help either
>>144761142
never
>>144761170
The plane has missile jamming but you need a copilot for it. You basically need a full wing escort to do the sell fly missions or an empty lobby.
>>144761150
>>144760908
>still no pve content at all
>still no shitter/cheater prevention at all
its like they really dont want people to have fun with the game...
I aint pvp'n when half the players are runnin with godmode.
>>144760973
>>144761057
>>144761126
dafuq is it $1m then?
>>144761150
Probably everyone at all times. If those fucking jews would fix their game or rent more servers we wouldnt have to sit a whole fucking minute until the game starts.
>>144760280
Well, at least it's amusing you don't see the what's wrong with it.
How do I modify my pegasus vehicles?
>>144761150
me, what the fuck is happening again
>duped about 30m
>received about 3m from hackers in random lobbys
I can play until midnight, i'm scared ;_;
Anyone here got banned for duping during this new banwave?
>>144761349
People woke up.
>>144758161
>>144761295
>dafuq is it $1m then?
rockstar jewry
>>144761295
>dafuq is it $1m then?
gee I wonder why
>>144761295
>>still no pve content at all
have you played at all or do you just love talking shit?
>Cargobob is back in Warstock
Did they neuter it by removing the hook?
>>144761278
That doesn't really help when jets have an explosive minigun bolted to the front though
>>144761126
kek
Cant wait for cluckstar to finaly lose it and just add a really crappy car that explodes from bumping into a ped and sell it for 5mill
>>144761515
No, it goes down in one explosive though. On the other hand, so does everything else, including the insurgent since this update dropped so it might not be intentional
never ever
:^)>not an audi
>>144761501
meant updates. Heists would be fine if the game wouldnt glitch the fuck out and fail for no reason or just simply drop connection randomly.
The lowrider shit had 3 missions and thats it, meanwhile they added a hundred shitty pve garbage that noone wants to play because of cheaters.
>>144761717
thank god.
>>144761717
shieet i didnt knew portugal has this many refugees
>>144760827
It's fun
>>144761818
>I need more super cars :)
>>144762010
nobody wants gay rally shit in the game lol go play DiRT
i like the 3d map in the office to be fair
it's neat
>>144762107
Nobody wants sports/classic/muscle/sedan/coupe/SUV/non-superbikes.
>>144760620
i agree it seems like the arsenal that enemy players have far outweighs what vip/ceo get
>>144762173
get it thru ya thick skull nobody wants your trash 90s rally shitboxes then cry because you have shit taste kid....................
>>144762294
.............................................................
>>144762173
I do
>>144762294
>I dont want it so nobody wants it xD
>>144762162
i think so too, anon
since I posted it in the wrong thread
INSURANCE IS BACK
so is PC GTAO down right now?
>>144762294
I've always wanted 80's and 90's shitboxes. Rally cars are popular and iconic choices for these.
>>144762358
No, you don't. You only want supercars
>>144762431
Just connection issues. Still not as bad as the heist update.
>>144762423
>can't log in into the game
thx obingo
Arcadius or Maze Bank office?
>>144762431
Is there more of this? And who's the artist?
>>144762423
not on PC
>>144762650
arcadius is the patrician choice
B R A V O
R
A
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>>144760620
>no matter how many more updates gtao gets shark cards will always prevent making money in-game from being any fun
>>144762750
So the 40k I had to spend because I blew up some faggots Reaper are just my imagination? Wew lad
time for videogames
>>144762869
I can see why since it's a BUSINESS center.
>>144762991
S L U T S
>>144762423
Oh fuck, time to offload all my money to my secondary character again then.
>There's fucking Chinamen jackets now
What a time to be an Asian character, now if only there was a kung fu fighting style in this game.
So with ppl complainin about jetshitters ruining the new missions
are dedicated crew jetshitters topgunnin a thing yet?
>>144762991
>gaijin4koma
>>144763221
jetshitters make it impossible to do the sell part of the CEO shit without at least two dudes escorting you in jets.
>>144762746
http://basklin.tumblr.com/tagged/hotline+miami/page/3
they did some good hotline miami stuff, I like the little one-off they did explaining where the son got his scar and how tony finds his mask
>>144761306
The part about it automatically collecting crates? That was fucking obvious, there's no way they'd do something to make it a little less tedious on you.You're not as smart as you're trying to make yourself seem.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING WHY CAN'T I LOG IN
>>144763524
Either you're a master ruseman, or only realized it was wrong because of that hint. Probably the latter, considering the language of all the posts.
>organization work is public session only
So you pay 18k up front and then have to haul your product back in some shitty slow van while a single shot from a hydra can end everything.
Nice one Cockstar.
>>144763565PC only, who cares
Welcome to the future, enjoy the suffering.
>>144763523
Thanks, my man.
Even with the upgrades, jesus what a slow moving peice of shit, thank god no hydras were around
>>144762746
>that jacket
>those incorrect colors
triggered
just got home and the servers are down
do you lose your package when people blow it up? or is it unlimited tries?
>>144759292
if you upgrade it via warehouse it can take more damage, will test in a few mins, no idea if this effects the pegasus version, im going off of the CEO one
>>144763698
Worst thing is the attacker only gets 2k for destroying the product. I shat on a group in my hydra just to see the reward.
Hopefully people will realize the shitty reward and not attack the CEO's.Who am I kidding, of course they will.
>>144763751
>A tugboat is slow
Whoa
>insurance is back
>>144763821
Lose it
I killed some guy with 100k or so of cargo, only got 2k, he told me, felt like an asshole.
Anyone own the new rumpo? If so, how is it?
>>144763986
>Using a hydra
>Trying to take the high moral ground
>>144764103
holy shit what a money burner
time to get the hydra out
>>144764103
>you only get 2k for ruining someone else's cargo
what the fuck is the point then
When was insurance ever gone? Thought it was alwayd there on pc
>>144763701
>>144764223
Ruining their day, fucking up their wallet
oh, also some xp and ammo, i guess.
It's hilarious how Cuckstar had all the time in the world to polish this update and it still feels rushed.
> ** Placeholder Description here ** for the Tugboat
> Weapon locker is buggy at best and doesn't work at worst
>>144764160
It's like if you crossed a Rumpo with a Moonbeam and Merryweather Mesa.
>>144764223
>what the fuck is the point then
to buy predator fish cards
>>144764229
It was gone for a couple months thanks to menu kids being able to drain millions through insurance fraud in a matter of minutes.
when will the hackers be back?
i need more money
>>144764397
The script kiddies will be back in about a week and then they'll be back to blowing up lobbies and never dropping money anymore.
>>144763730
yeh mangit's on the house
What the hell do you need to be wearing to be able to see the fitted suit jackets? I feel like I've tried every combination of business clothing & vests yet the fitted suit jackets are always greyed out.
>>144764306
They try though, the weapons locker is something we asked for. Its almost as if they care about us.
>>144764223
2k is more than enough incentive to get people to screw each other over.
>>144763678
I realized it as soon as I read the post because I was literally hovering over the warehouses when I was asking earlier and never saw any mention of houses auto stocking.
Like I said, I wanted to know if buying the bigger one was smarter, which it was because more stock = more profit.
Again, you're not that smart. Stop trying so hard.
>PC: UP
>>144764663
>2k is more than enough incentive to get people to screw each other over.
I could make more in a single store robbery. And it would take less time and is considerably less risky.
>>144763986
>R* rewards attackers with literal scraps
>It's not about the rewards
>They did it on purpose to troll you
Fuck you, R* just fuck you.
>>144764663
It's not enough, you can literally hold up a couple stores and come out with more money, there's almost no incentives to play anymore frankly.
>>144764784
but you can't get the "lel i troll u" moment doing that
>>144764397
i haven't seen cheater that drops money for like 5 months
but oh boy, i've seen a fuckton of them screwing the rest of the lobby
>>144764784
>I could make more in a single store robbery.
Really? How? I'm lucky if I get a thousand.
Is the new chopper faster than the Swift?
>>144764739
You are not alone senpai. I'm stuck there too
>>144764884
emert was giving out 60m each last night
>>144764906
Store robberies fluctuate between 1000-3000 dollars.
>>144764223
Maybe they wanted to make it hard.
How much money can you make on one of these missions?
In a mostly-crew-session we could easily have two jetshitters on call and maybe a few heli's too.implying we can give money to people who arent in the script
Is the homing missile jamming system on the new helicopter too?
Ask an anon who spent over 20M on the update anything.
With the ability to make 100% per crate when buying bulk and even more when you stockpile larger amount, it really seems like the last update. Maybe we will get some new stuff like "new jacket pure gold 1mln" to spend these money but nothing else that big.
>>144765192
>20M only
Try 30M and then we'll talk.
>>144765026
who? i'm not in any /gtag/ crew
>>144765038
It's hard, sure, but it's not fun.
Heists were hard at first when you got started out, but they were fun and rewarding once you got them down, this update is absolutely not.
>>144764739
>>144764989
If GTAO won't let you in, do something productive with your time. Do some writing. Maybe practice on your art. Apply for a new job. Read a book. Do kegel exercises. Learn something new. Anything besides shitposting here on /vg/.
I'm going to go work out. Hopefully it's up when I get back.
>>144765192
How much do you have left?
>>144764324
Is it a good car to own?
>>144765192
Is the tugboat worth it?
>>144764678
>I realized it as soon as I read the post because I was literally hovering over the warehouses when I was asking earlier and never saw any mention of houses auto stocking.
If you think that mentions all, why would you even ask then? Doesn't make sense mate.
Besides, more being more valuable is pretty fucking logical anyway, you'd have to be pretty stupid to only not know about that.
>Again, you're not that smart. Stop trying so hard.
I do not see why you keep reiterating this. Seems like baseless unrelated drivel.
>>144765262
Not him but I'm pretty sure I spent close to 35M so far.
>>144762991
qties
>>144765287
It's pretty neat
>>144765282
Is masturbating productive?
>CEO jobb's are lobby only
>insurance is back
oy vey this will surely boost the sharkcard sales
>>144764883
>Get all the way to the end of Pacific standard as a host who is taking 0% cut on hard
>Alt+F4 as we're driving in the boat
>>144765428
No, but you do you.
pc online works again lads
What guns can you put on that planning table? Only the Heavy Revolver?
>>144765282
well time for Overwatch then
>>144764884
>>144765026
In some rando lobby some guy gave me 2mil before disconnecting. But that's no where near what I really "need", especially for these kinds of updates.
And yeah, who's this emert guy? That his SC too?
>>144764223
You know people just ruin others' missions for free anyway.
>>144765607
yeah funny shitlord
it's not like i'm spamming retry already
>>144766009
huh, I just got in, downloaded 9mb of god knows what and got into
i'm going to bed
hopefully gtao is back up when i wake up
>still can't change the color of the livery