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>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EOV Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://jii.moe/Vkg7ZHvGW.7z (Famitsu scans)

Previous thread:
>>144210192
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First for U3.
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>necromancer

RIP OP
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Second for hard sex with lolis.

U3 is good too though
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>>144494028
The dancer thread was fine, this one too.
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>>144494094
What's with people worrying about the OPs?
Has anyone used the /vg/ catalog? There are 2 seperate hentai game threads AND a /vg/ colab hentai monster girl game thread.
At this very moment I count at least 10 lewd OP pics and I think this is a poor show for the catalog OP pics. I wouldn't save a one.
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>>144494507
The OP was deleted once because it had Necromancer in it, and it really didn't show anything more than the current one.
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>>144494605
See >>144211240
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I would like to recant my statement about the overworld from EOIV from last thread. While I do like the sailing better, I think the overworld is a nice addition. It's it's own little puzzle with FOEs to dodge or fight and stuff to collect. I just think that boats are more fun since they actually exist, unlike skyships (fucking blimps don't count).
I hope in U3 they do more than just copy the ship exploration part. I hope they really expand on it. More areas, more FOEs, more items.
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>>144496943
Addendum: I think the most fun part about the sailing was painting areas you wouldn't need to go. Like actually squinting to see the 4 squares ahead of you and mapping it out and the tiles next to it, and the ones next to those. That was the nice touch about having limited movement.
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>>144496943
EOIV oveworld was bad. Not because it wasn't charming, because it was charming. But because you never were in danger unless you put yourself in said danger.

Not being turn based it was easy just to bruteforce every "puzzle"
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>>144497192
Yeah. I suppose I just liked how populated it was compared to the sea.
Fishing is way superior to just flying over spots and collecting things though. At the very least in their next attempt, make fish, birds, and beasts follow around the FOEs so you're at real risk if you want to collect them all.
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>>144497392
Best way to fix it, it would have a post game food that allow you like 300-500 days in the ocean for free exploration.
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>>144497483
Hey, there you go. It can even take up all your slots so you still have to carry the right shit if you want to get items and fish.
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>>144496943
I've always thought it would've been neat if the sea-locations in EO3 were small dungeons with a boss at the end.
Actual FOEs on the map (instead of just pirates), and puzzles that don't boil down to "equip these three things and move in this specific pattern" would make it more engaging too.
I prefer EO4's overworld, but EO3's feels like more of an adventure. I just hope they build on that.
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>>144498404
Right on the money, anon.

My super secret EO wish is that they knock it off with the 3D dungeons. make the walls nice 2D things that aren't just copy/paste walls. So there are visual landmarks. The 3DS ones aren't terrible, but they have artists, make use of them. Put the animation team on vacation.
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We can still discuss other dungeon crawlers too, right?

Has anyone else seen the Kamigokuto trailer? Could be good, plus it got my Corruption boner going.
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>>144499096
The compile hearts garbage that was posted before?
At least the monster design was neat, everything else was shit.
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>>144499096
No for the first and for the second it'll be shit thanks to Compile Hearts
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>>144499710
Well I know the EO Generals used to also be the Dungeon Crawling general as well a while ago; where did those get moved to?
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>>144499959
There was a whole shit storm and basically the other Dungeon crawlers got fend up with everyone mostly talking about EO and the EO people were getting annoyed by the other Dungeon crawler discussions. So this was made into EO general while the others went and made Dungeon Crawler general. Now guess which one died out quicker.
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>>144499959
Limbo.
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>>144499959
>>144500156
Also Vita general will be your best bet to discuss it.
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>>144500156
I see. That's pretty awkward then.
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>>144502536
I'm all explored out. Time to relax and watch someone else play videogames and then go to bed.
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>>144502618
>and watch someone else play videogames
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>>144500156
>basically the other Dungeon crawlers got fend up with everyone mostly talking about EO
Again, stop lying, those were falseflaggers.
There were no problems with both coexisting for a long time until the shitstorm started. Nowadays every time someone mentions other dungeon crawlers some autists start shitposting.
Also everyone who claims he likes the game play of EO but is not interested in other games of the genre is either completely retarded, a guy who only plays for artstyle or a liar. I really don't understand either one of those and am convinced that a lot people here play other games of the genre, so there's no "them" and "us".

>>144500242
Don't know about that one since I don't own a Vita but what about all the dungeon crawlers on other platforms?
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>>144502779
Previously Recorded. I get a good dose of vidya and movie news by guys who ought to know.
Or sleepycast, or H3H3, or Game Grumps
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>>144503071
Go back to your general anon.
Just because you like one game it doesn't mean you have to like all the games in the same genre.
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>>144503071
There are people like that in lots of generals for some reason. I get trolling, it makes enough sense I suppose, but real fucking shitposters. The faggots who just wait to say, "This game doesn't belong here! Get out!", fuck those guys.

Actual false flaggers. It's amazing. /gsg/ has a bad dose of it.

See?

>>144503206
Fuck off back to your steamgroup, you faggot.
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>>144494605
>>144494671
Still, the OP image has been deleted at least twice when it came to lolimancer.
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>>144503206
Which general?

>Just because you like one game it doesn't mean you have to like all the games in the same genre.
You like an entire series of games and those are heavily inspired by classical dungeon crawlers, so you really can't tell me that you do not like the gameplay of others at all.
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>>144503384
>Which general?
Dungeon Crawler General of course.... Oh wait
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>>144503418
ebin
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>>144503384
And to add.
>so you really can't tell me that you do not like the gameplay of others at all.
They don't. Most dungeon crawlers have a fucked up UI and everything is a fucking mess.

The thing I like the most about Etrian games is that everything is pristine and also the information is easy to read.
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>>144503523
Outright lie.
The information given to you about skills if vague.
>Damage up
>1 fucking % per point
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>>144503523
>Most dungeon crawlers have a fucked up UI and everything is a fucking mess
How many have you played? Because that's not true at all unless you just like the colors of EO or some shit like that.
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>>144503646
Wizardry, Elminage (these shit are an unplayable mess)
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>>144496943
>(fucking blimps don't count)
Why?

What I liked most about EO4's overworld is that it gave an actual sense of adventure and exploration. Travel through unknown lands. Locate the special temple/jungle/village/cave. Explore the shit out of it. Keep traveling.
Whereas routinely doing down to a city-anexed a labyrinth where you do pretty much the same stuff all the time feels more like work than adventure.
Too bad said overworld also murdered labyrinth depth. If only we could have both.
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>>144503690
You haven't played them then. Sure the old Wizardry games are extremely minimal in comparison but I really don't see why the UI of the newer ones or Elminage games should be fucked up.
What makes the UI of Elminage fucked up that the EO games don't have? Because the UI's are very similar (again dungeon crawlers) only difference is that the system of Elminage is more detailed and has more information.
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>>144503715
The more I think about it, the more it was... fine. JUST fine. I guess it was jarring for them to be like, oh here's a free airship, that thing you get half way through every other RPG. They kept saying how special it was and you're the new guys in town, of course they have to give it to you, or there's no game.
It was just a little off for me. You could have dug it up if they had a 5 floor deep dungeon below the town or something.
But it doesn't really matter now since 5 won't have that stuff.
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>>144499096
The basic design is cool, but the usual CH shit ruins it.
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>>144503916
Well, the plot was that Logre's skyship crashed nearby and they copied the technology (or what they could), then the Count sponsors pretty much every guild with one. Which is a crazy investment but I could see him doing that. I guess you pay it off with animals and plants you collect and are forced to sell right away, there's just no way that an actual cow is worth so little.

Then you see the original skyships and realize what a shoddy imitation Tharsis skyships are.
They're just lucky that there seem to be gassy stones all over the place.
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>people who write EOU2
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>>144503905
>wizardry/drpg posters somehow appear less often than even 7thD posters in these threads
>when EO is wizardry with a map gimmick

depressing times
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>>144505014
>plebs who write EO at all and not the infinitely superior (S)SQ
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>>144503071
The thing I dislike about all the other Dungeons crawlers is that its turn order. I like taking my turn for all my characters in one go in these types of games. Most other DRPGs keep doing turn order and it shite.
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>>144505282
It depends. When you do turn order you get more of a "Come on, come on, fucking be my turn next, I neeeeeeed this." At least if it's done right, like Darkest Dungeon, otherwise it draws out the battle since you can't choose your attacks and hold A.
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>>144505282
>Most other DRPGs keep doing turn order and it shite.
Mind making a list? The only other dungeon crawlers that other guy mentioned have all the same "one go" order like EO.
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Hey.

You wanna know a good DRPG?

Arcana.

I'm surprised I played it at all since I shoved in Eye of the Beholder at my cousin's house and was like, "What is this shit? This is a fucking Super Nintendo. Where's Super Mario World + All Stars and Megaman X?"
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>>144505040
>when EO is wizardry with a map gimmick
Unless every turn based first person dungeon crawler = Wizardry that's just wrong.
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I bought EO4 last week, I've just gotten to the quest where you take Shop Loli to find flowers in a dungeon. Is there anything I should be aware of?
Also I hear "Medic is a subclass" a lot. Why is this and when do I unlock subclasses?
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>>144505712
I beat it some time ago. It was kinda boring and it had a weird difficulty curve.
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>>144505712
Hey, you wanna know something else

This is still the wrong general no matter how much you guys want to bitch about it.
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>>144506093
You unlock subclasses before the third boss.
The first unlockable class subclassed as medic is generally considered to be better than a medic. This is because the unlockable class has things that it can do in turns when it isn't healing, and can put out respectable heals when it needs to. A medic subbed as this class will not be as effective in the turns between healing.
In terms of things to know. Don't use too many support classes, but otherwise EO4 is pretty forgiving so far as party composition goes. If you're trying to build a linkshark team, keep in mind that your whole party should be built around that to maximise effectiveness.
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>>144506098
The ending theme is killer though.
https://youtu.be/2wqW4ZRdYV8?t=47s
I don't know if 4chan can do the timecode thing but skip to 47 seconds.
>>144506153
See, where other generals have a shitposting group, you're just one guy, so it doesn't work out.
I'll use /gsg/ as an example again, there's a whole steamgroup. Memespouting, mod dicksucking faggots.

It's not like anyone's posting anything else anyway. I don't want /eog/ to die like /idle games general/ did.
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Why can we never go a single thread without someone bringing up DCG or 7th Dragon? It's like people want to start shit on purpose.
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>>144506330
>I don't want /eog/ to die like /idle games general/ did.

How noble of you. We aren't anywhere near dying nor as slow as some generals or just even how we were before. If your idea of keeping this place alive is by bringing up shit that was decided long ago, you're just shit posting
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>>144505995
Not really. There are a little bit more common points than just FPS.

>>144506578
>If your idea of keeping this place alive is by bringing up shit that was decided (by me) long ago, you're just shit posting
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>>144507489
>FPS
FP
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>>144507489
>decided (by me)

And me. And every other single person that decided to post here instead of the /dcg/.
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>>144507578
I actually called it EO2U always. For the simple logic that the game it uses as a base is EO2, not EOU.
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>>144506390
Because people like to bring up/recommend games with similar game play and their differences while discussing a game series they love.
The 7thD is probably a combination of director and animu art style or something like that, it has been discussed here quite often.

The better question is why we can never go a single thread without autists getting extremely emotional over what other people post, be it permadeath, background stories, games of the same genre etc.

>>144507731
>And every other single person that decided to post here instead of the /dcg/.
Wrong.

So we have two idiots, congratulations, I guess.
Why do you play EO again?
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>>144507874
I didn't think there'd be someone this buut hurt over something that happened a year ago.
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>>144507993
It's happening right now, dude. I wouldn't care if people would just let people discuss that stuff that is strongly related but if they have a fit, I want to join.
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>>144507874
To make meta posts and erp and sometimes dump porn
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>>144507874
Ok, I'm am idiot. Doesn't change the fact that this is the ETRIAN ODYSSEY thread. I invite you to make the next thread, name it whatever you want, see what happens
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Time to kill
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>>144508751
Just toss her a nectar, she'll be fine
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>>144508641
I know what happens, shitposting initiated by you guys like always since that shitstorm (was that when you started posting here?).

>Doesn't change the fact that this is the ETRIAN ODYSSEY thread.
>Because people like to bring up/recommend games with similar game play and their differences while discussing a game series they love.
Changing the name of the thread isn't necessary. The fact that there was no problem with the coexistence of discussions wasn't caused by the name "Etrian Odyssey/Dungeon Crawler general". People just tolerated it because it was never that much discussion in the first place (like 5% of a thread at most, source: my memory and ass) and, again, it's related discussion.
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>>144508938
>Because people like to bring up/recommend games with similar game play and their differences while discussing a game series they love.

Go to the lol general and convince them to talk about Dota, since they're based off the same Warcraft mod. Go tell the Counter strike general to talk about TF2 since they're both on the source engine. Quit being a retard, and shame on me for taking the bait.
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>>144509137
Those have their own generals, your point is moot.
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>>144509137
Good thing we're on the level of assfaggots and all the others. Only because they aren't capable of rational discussion of mechanics they'd like to see added or talking 10 posts about very similar games instead of meaningless bump posts (like we do a lot here unless a metadiscussion is happening) doesn't mean that we aren't either.
Unless the userbase is the same which seems to be the case for you at least because I sure as hell couldn't make statements about those generals since I've never stepped my foot into one of them.
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>>144509137
>Multiplayer game communities.
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>>144509247
Yeah, so did /dcg/. Not my fault they don't give a shit about their own shit game and would rather piggyback off the more successful one
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>>144509491
You're right, it isn't your fault. You have nothing to do with it.
Doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to post.
I say let them post. Who knows, might be some fun mechanics and I might buy a new game.
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>tfw I just want to talk about EO and fap to the doujins
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>see this character
>disgusted by the design and expect to hate her
>start playing the game
>suddenly find myself not hating her at all
>in fact she turned out to have quite likable personality and voice
What magic is this?
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>>144509880
Loli magic.
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>>144509880
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>>144509880
Superior Chloe NEVER EVER
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>>144510359
>Blue rose instead of a Jack pin.
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>>144509491
>Yeah, so did /dcg/. Not my fault they don't give a shit about their own shit game and would rather piggyback off the more successful one
>their own shit game
>there only exists one dungeon crawler game
And for the last time, there was no reason to start a new general when the discussion never was that big in the first place. Everyone with a brain should have been able to realize this, so the people who did were either retards or falseflaggers. Same with that MeiQ recently.
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>>144510359
Did they really choose that Regina prototype over angry Chinese loli? Oh what could have been
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>>144511437
It's her eternel fate.
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>>144511675

Maybe she'll show up three or four games from now. Teach had that Imperial dragon wing hairclip in some EO1/2 concept art.
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>>144514492
Yanno, everyone says EOV is reminding them of final fantasy 14 with the races and shit, but this pic made it click in my head what it more reminds me of.

It makes you think of crystal chronicles, all the races simply working together for the sake of it, not a whole lot explained about them.

>>144511675
Poor angry china Loli.
I hope maybe she shows up in U3. Himukai really likes her design.
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>>144518237
>China loli shows up in Untold 3
>She's Edie's imouto now
>Somehow manages to outjew the jew
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Brownies are also people.
they have dreams and feelings like anyone else.
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>>144520834
But I don't have dreams.
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>EOP
>DPS
>Fafnir is broken
>Arianna
>Simon
>Ricky
>Teach
>Himeko
>Sarashi
>Permadeath
>Painting under doors
>Not painting under doors
>EOIV is for casuals
>EOIII is balanced
>EOIII isn't balanced
>Picnic = Casual
>EXPERT ONLY
>DLC
>TITS
>T H I C C
>DFC
>Lolis
>Story Mode
>Untold
>EO1 and 2 are balanced
>EOV is FFXIV
>GET OUT OF MY THREAD 7TH DRAGON
>calling everything a meme
>blindsides are stupid
>>he doesn't like blindsides
>/v/isitors
>using males is gay
>/meiQ/, /etrian/, etc
>editions
>back to >>>/tumblr/ or /reddit/
>dark hunters are useless
>defang
>backstories
>mediko
>why is hexer naked?
>Flavio bullying
>NO MORE GAYS
>DARKNESS ARM
>daddy fetish for Bertrand
>cute boy
>i am fang/lolimonk's wife
>ERPing
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>>144521179
I'm afraid you may not be people then
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>>144521490
>x is for casuals
>x is/isn't balanced
>x = casual
>play the hardest difficulty
>calling everything a meme
>bitching about /v/
>editions
>back to tumblr/reddit
all of these are used in several generals anyway
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>>144521490
Forgot to add
>/dcg/
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>>144521996
>please
>cute
>post

WORD CLOUD IS CUTE

CUTECUTECUTE
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>>144521996
this threads are cancer
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>>144521490
People get literally banned for posting shit like this in other boards.
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>>144521490
still missing some
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>>144503384
I literally only play EO for the music and difficult battles, so I couldn't care less about the dungeon crawling aspect, which is why, surprise surprise, I don't like any other games of the genre.
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>>144524798
7th cancer poster detected
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What's a suitable level for Harpuia in EOU2 Expert mode?

My party is lvl 46-47
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>>144525271
Around that level is fine. 50 if you have problems.
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>>144525271
44-46
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>>144511675
>tfw Highlander was a bitch boi
>tfw he could have been a scruffy, quiet old man

Why did the first Untoldians need to be overly happy young adults again?
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>>144526605
But the old man was in the game.
What is really a crime it was not including that old man into Untold 2 DLC.
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>>144493869
sup, im the guy who had started playing EO3 and wasn't sure of how to build his party.
this is how it's looking right now
front: Gladiator. Hoplite. Monk.
back: Zodiac. Arbalist.
i hope this is a solid comp, had a hard time letting the princess go, but there's only so much cute a team can have before they begin stabbing each other.
anyway, is there a certain build path i should avoid, or a certain skill that is a must, beside the obvious heal and basic offensive skills?
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>>144526605
>Japan
>Allowing any of their player characters to be older than mid 20s

I'm still amazed granny Hound is a thing.
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>>144526605
The old guy was in the first cutscene you dick twiddler.

What they should have done is made an older highlander playable for DLC
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>>144527012
Is V your first EO?
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>>144528270
There aren't any super old female player characters in the previous games
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>>144527004
Cookie cutter party. But it's cookie cutter parties are the only thing that really works in 3, so go for it.
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>>144528421
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>>144528647
Don't worry, I'm a different anon. Female focus was just how I interpreted >>144527012.
After all, who uses males?
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>>144528846
>After all, who uses males?
You're right. I'm terribly sorry.
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>>144528119
I'm saying that he could have been our Highlander instead of the bitch boi, not that he wasn't in the game.
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>>144529179
Now that is just bad taste.
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>>144529421
Anything to not have to romance Ricky is fine with me.
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>>144529179
Yes, because Ricky getting romantically involved with an old Scottish man will totally fly
And JPs would totally want an old man as their self insert.

Are you the same dumbfuck that keeps calling Bertrand daddy?
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>>144526605
>Highlander and happy in the same sentence
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>>144529768
>And JPs would totally want an old man as their self insert.

But Japan loves faceless middle-aged men! They're everywhere in doujin works!
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>>144529682
Because an old man can't play in a band full of teenagers
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>>144529768
>Are you the same dumbfuck that keeps calling Bertrand daddy
wat.

I wouldn't want him romantically involved with Ricky.
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>>144528619
Is Nine smashes damage worth it's 55% accuracy?
i'd like to go club mastery on my gladiator but idk if it's worth it late game
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I'm surprised they let Faf and Flavio be past 18.
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>>144531207
9 smashes is only really worth it if you have some way to guarantee you hit the majority. So you'll want leg binds, blinding or paralysis. The only classes that can deal these are Ninja (leg binds); Buccaneer (Blind) and Wilding (All 3); but each of those classes are underwhelming in all other regards.
I normally run Sword Gladiator. Keep in mind that only Blade Rave can hit 1 enemy multiple times.
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>>144531557
what's the math behind provoke? skill simulator says it only increases in cost of TP per level, how is that good?
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>>144528846
>Being such a cucked numale that you're afraid of males in videogames
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>>144532698
No idea. But you won't be using it anyway. Get it to level 5 for the parry skills; but a hoplite is better used just spamming line guards
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>>144531557
>but each of those classes are underwhelming in all other regards.
t. razor the edgehog
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>>144533409
>No argument
Those classes are underpowered. Except arguably ninja who makes for a pretty OK subclass.
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>assassinate doesn't proc
>follow trace procs
>get the assassinate proc
I love NS so much
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>>144521996
>No U3 or EOU3
>No when?
Fuck that word cloud. 2/10
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>>144531207
Sub Arbalist for your gladiator for the accuracy boost. Or get a Buccaneer and sub gladiator.
Plus you have an arbalist so pop flares will help.
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>>144521996
>Atlus prove bucc gay
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What's the best way to build an A/M around level forty? There are so many things to spend points on and I don't know if I have enough.
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>>144539910
>arbalist/monk
W-what?
You're on your own there, guy.
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>>144540829
EOIV
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>>144539910
Get revives and heals setup and respectable, then ailment boosts, then binds or posion.
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>>144542392
Oh yes, I had requested that last night, I had no idea someone delivered. Thanks!
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I haven't gotten far in Etrian Odyssey 3 yet. I just found out that if I use thunder attacks my Bucanner can follow up on them with a special skill. So now I have a Hoplite, Zodiac and Arbalist spamming thunder attacks while my monk uses physical attacks and heals. Is this a solid strategy?
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>>144540829
That's why single-letter abbreviations need to go.
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>>144546564
I want hexer to cast a charm curse on me!
too bad she already did!
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1
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EOV demo when?
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>>144553716
I would imagine two weeks before release date as usual.

[spoilers]...and next year for us ;_;[/spoilers]
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>>144553716
only after we lose all hope.
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>>144554310
probably only february or something
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>>144554351

But I lost all hope years ago!
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>>144521996
>lewd buccaneer posting
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>claret hollows

what am i in for
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>>144556742
gas
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>>144556742

Dancing in the depths.
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>>144556852
>ran into one right after this was posted
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>>144556742
Death
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>>144556742
My god the random encounters are so bullshit, but did I love exploring it
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>>144556742
Monsters (literally every single one) with instakills.
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>>144556742
Bullshit at all levels.
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>>144556742
Speaking of which, EOU claret hallows made EOU2 forbidden woods look easy. I guess they toned it down a lot.
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>>144493869
i just reached the second floor in EO3 and got utterly destroyed. how do i git gud.
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>>144560875
go at night
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>>144560875
Go at night.
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>>144561072
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Guy who started playing EO1 yesterday here.
>everything is so fucking hard
>figured out that you're supposed to sell drops but that didn't help much
>managed to clear out the first floor though after several restarts
>try the second
>most of the monsters there can take off 90% of a characters HP with a single hit
>new gear is hard to get
>grinding is fucking pointless since each enemy only gives 0.0000000000001 exp
>manage to soldier on anyway and explore the second floor a bit
>encounter monster
>FOE FUCKING JOINS HALFWAY THROUGH THE FIGHT
>total party kill

I've spent my whole life playing old-school roguelikes and this is fucking bullshit. The worst part is that I'm actually enjoying it.
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>>144560875
Elemental weaknesses.
Like all of them. Fish are weak against lightning because water conducts electricity, fire because you cook 'em, and ice because water freezes.
They have a poor lot in life.
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>>144562775
You should have spent your first 500en on weapons for each character, and the smallest armor you can afford for everyone. I think there are 20en shoes or something.

Gang up on monsters, don't spread your attacks. Figure out if your 2 hardest hitters can kill one and the other 3 can kill one. Or maybe your weakest and strongest can take one out and the other 3 can take one. Stuff like that. Plan your encounters a little, this isn't final fantasy. Don't be afraid to use your alchemist to fry an enemy either. Heal when you have to.
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>>144563237
I'm not a rookie to these sorts of games, I've been doing literally all of that. It's just that it's such a struggle even when you're not shit. And that FOE thing was just ridiculous.
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>collect x stupid material!
>go to collect stupid material
>monster outright refuses to show up
>monster finally shows up
>drops the wrong material

Fuck fetch quests.
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>>144563506
What's your party?
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>>144562775
Dude Immunize lmao
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Why would someone play EO1 for anything but being able to say "I beat all EO games!"?

Isn't it all bugged and shitty?
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>>144564361
le
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>EO3U
>Party is more than 5 people, including a farmer so you don't have to invest in gathering on a combat team
>Innate Combat Study ala EMD/Combat Study available as a skill again
>NPCs who reveal themselves to be Shogun/Yggdroid and join after Gatekeeper
>3D Fish everywhere, including Ketos
>3D Deep Ones
>Release date 2020
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>>144564361
Because I played it when it was the only EO in existence. Might be difficult for you to understand since you might not have been born yet.
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>>144564361
maybe they started the series with it
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>>144564552
ow the edge anon.

I started the series recently with 3, and I plan on playing 1 and 2 sometime. I just heard it was pretty bugged and terribly balanced, so I asked a question.

No need to get all shitter shattered.
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>>144563690
Land, protector in front; alchemist, bard, and medic in back. The bard is kind of useless at the moment but someone told me they get a lot better.
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>>144564793
exaggerations from 4chan. like hwo emd is an unplayable broken mess
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>>144564936
The deal with bard/survivalist is that bard is better for bosses and survivalist is better for random exploring. So that's what you're feeling. You don't have as much offensive oomph. The survivalist would contribute with nice damage and always acting first.
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>>144565221
I read that on somethingawful though.

I guess I'll know when I try it
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>>144563506
>And that FOE thing was just ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_PVPyn6n8
There's a reason why they're so famous. Learn their movement patterns and stay away from them until you're either 5 floors beyond them, or using a broken party combination, poison level 10, or immunize+defender.
>>144564361
Because if you like a series of games, why wouldn't you want to play all entries in that series?
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>finally reach the fourth stratum in EOIV
>my dick when new battle theme
Holy shit it's so good.
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>>144565221
MD is buggy, absolutely.
You can avoid the class with the bugs though. But the only class that does something similar has really bad looking models
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>>144567121
The only buggy thing about EMD is the sovereign class, and one of those bugs is there only if you choose to abuse it. Retarded AI has always been a feature of MD since the 90s
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>>144567563
Exactly.
You can avoid a majority of the bugs easily, but dancers' models are fucking garbage as the only other buffing class.
The panic however is pure evil incarnate and the definition of artificial bullshit.
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>EOU Yggdrasil Core 8th attempt
>manage to get to 4th phase
>Alright, I'm still reeling from its Armageddon, but I know its pattern, so I should be good.
>Next up should be its Elemental attack, which since the new phase just started, should be... Explode
>put up a Fire Wall while I revive Medic
>Freezing
>everyone but Protector dead
>uses Explode next turn
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>>144556742
Remember to kill the Evilroots as soon as they appear
Unless two of them are paired up with two Iron Crabs, in which case you're fucked
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>spend some time in a stratum feeling it out, looting shit, ducking FOEs, questan
>FOE indicator is yellow~blue
>Oh I bet I can take these easy now
>5-man attack that wipes half my party instantly
wh-what am I supposed to do against this?
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>>144570775
>Unless two of them are paired up with two Iron Crabs, in which case you're fucked
The panic is unreal. EO is so cruel.
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>>144572578
I dunno, I'd have to know what FOE/game it is.
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>>144572578
Reminds me of when I tried to take on those Ambush Wolves in EOU2's third stratum. My entire party was around level 47 and only my Gunner came out alive.
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>>144573801
>Ambush Wolves
>Level 47
>Basically everyone dead
How? You can easily beat Harpuia at that level.
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>>144563237
>>144563690
The first few floors in EO1 are bullshit no matter what you do. It's different from the rest of the series.

>>144564361
>Isn't it all bugged and shitty?
Where do people get this idea? Untold 1 is buggier than the original, and the original has nothing as horrendous as grimoires.
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what are essential skills for a troubadour in eou2?
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>>144575281
I think you meant
>EO1's bugs are beneficial to the player as opposed to EOU
and Grimoires are pretty safe to ignore.

I'll admit that I haven't played EO1 and I'll also admit I don't want to because I've experienced the stratums with their updated music and graphics and don't want to go back
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>>144576550
The duplication glitch is very beneficial for the player though.
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>>144576912
>Euros got screwed out of that
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r8 my eo3 party _/10
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>>144577752
>Brown Ranma Monk
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>>144577752
Have fun dying in everywhere past the 1st stratum.
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>>144577752
Will die to a stiff breeze / 10.
Until you have Front Mortar, your Arbalist has no business being in the front. And you have no way of mitigating damage.
Also
>Xander
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>>144577991
his name is marx though
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>>144577991
the plan was to end her up with a glad sub, so front mortar could do some serious damage, and give wilding a hoplite sub so he could tank for arb a bit
>>144577968
thanks senpai, already wiped to a lynx failing to run away, it was really embarrassing, gonna play it safe and overgrind until i have access to subs and can actually fuck shit up
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What's the best subclass for a buccaneer anyway general?
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>>144580738
Always glad, for charge/vow. But for all intents and purposes G/B is better for the same purpose since they have endless battle and better stats; if you have a levelled bucc then B/G still does the job and is better at landing head bind with hanging since their luck/tec stats are higher. B/N is also reasonable
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>>144581586
I'm more going for the pincushions and swashbuckling and shit and I'm partying for headcanon anyway
Plus I greatly prefer Bucc's portraits to gladiator's.
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Hey /eog/, wanna play a game of throw the brownie?
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>>144581586
But G/B doesn't have cute forehead lolis or that class skill to allow for multiple Pincushions while exploring.
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>>144582210
NO BULLY
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>>144582210
Do not bully the brownie!
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>>144582449
>>144582504
I would but they are so easy to pick on.
don't blame me, blame them for being such an easy target.
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>>144582504
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I want to scratch his ears.
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>>144582784
*her
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>>144582854
*Xe
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>>144581787
Charge pincushion is one of the strongest attacks in the game so B/G is still no joke... other than their lower hp and vit, G/B only really pulls ahead at endgame so it's nothing to really worry about
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>>144582854
>Female Therians
>Fox ears
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>>144580738
Here's some general advice.
>Phys damage class
Sub Glad.
Absolutely no downside to glad sub because Charge makes you more TP efficient and boosts overall damage by 50% (30%? One of those)
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why I do feel the urge to pick up and cuddle with a brownie? also there's an explanation why they are so small and adorable?
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post more EO5 pls
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>>144583481
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>>144582210
Can I catch her with my dick?
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>>144583932
I don't think you would be able to catch even one with something that do not exists.
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>>144583481
I'm so torn between Old Man Dragoon, Eyepatch Dragoon and making this one have blonde hair and turning her into Hoplite Dragoon.
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>>144570498
4th phase is more random. Your mistake was not using a 2-turn kill party.
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>>144583892
There are so many good portraits I want to use. Choosing them is going to be hell
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>>144584056
Goddammit, anon. Same.

I love having that one, older character in the guild, but the other Dragoons look too good to pass up.

I really can't choose, and the autism is killing me.

Also, pic related for you.
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>Even if you figure out all your guild members beforehand, you'll still have to endure the hell of choosing colors for everyone.
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>>144584483
Don't even remind me of that shit, anon. It will take me one week at least to decide all of that.
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>>144584674
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>>144584920
literal meme portraits
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>>144584018
Well I guess I'm up for some /ll/ as well
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>>144584483
I'm sticking with the defaults like always. I can't wait to see all the special snowflake guildcards with heterochromia and mismatching, clashing colors everywhere
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Whadya think? Is EOV going to be an "any party is ok" game?
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>>144585624
Hopefully not. They are pretty much marketing it as a "have more than one party you pussy" kind of game because you can't have 5 classes that cover all your needs.
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>>144584920
Best pairing bar none.

>>144583029
Honestly with the voices as they are for customization, you can feasibly fudge everyone's at least second favorite hound as a girl as much as you could longhair prince as a girl.
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>>144585048
Why does this game have so many goddamn traps

>>144585375
Subclasses never, but Reaper as a necro makes a lot of sense as a Reclass, as far as looks go.

>>144584674
Requesting more qt fencers.
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>>144587565
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>>144587565
>>144587768
>>144587820
Which fencer are you going to use anyway, anon?
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>>144587892
None because it's pretty much a Landsknecht, which I don't like using.
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>All this art, game isn't even out yet, nor will it be for months.
I feel bad for artists. The fight to stay relevant is a terrible one. If you don't do something for 3 days all your fans assume you've died. But don't worry consumers! There's someone with a similar style just waiting to jump in his place!
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>>144588094
The dodge skill list looks spectacular, honestly.
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